Time Nick Message 23:59 rangi not sure, people might want to have 2 users with the same email for some reason, id just note that this patch makes the assumption that each user has a unique email address 23:58 mtompset Should we force a unique primary email, except in the case of dependent? 23:57 rangi like getting each others notices etc 23:57 rangi then they have all sorts of problems already 23:54 mtompset But what if there is more than one user with the same email address? 23:53 mtompset evil as in wicked... as in cool. 23:53 mtompset Not evil in a bad sense. 23:53 rangi the persona code was released about 3.10 23:53 rangi mtompset: whats evil about it? 23:49 mtompset Marks for ingenuity. :) 23:48 mtompset That is truly evil, this patch latches onto the persona code. 23:48 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 23:48 mtompset @later tell dcook Yes, kittens are cute. 23:47 dcook Oh well. I have to head out anyway :p 23:47 dcook But kittens! 23:47 * dcook can think of at least two channel ops with kittens... 23:47 mtompset Cats don't like me. Sorry. I don't like them back. 23:46 dcook O_O 23:46 mtompset I prefer a puppy. Kittens can burn. :P 23:46 wizzyrea mtompset: that definitely qualifies as a kitten saved. 22:59 rangi cool 22:59 Francesca I'll be in before then 22:58 rangi righto i have to leave at 2.30 to pick kids up from school 22:58 Francesca hi cait1! 22:57 Francesca hey rangi I'll be in some time between 2.00 and 2.30 today 22:57 cait1 hi Francesca 22:57 rangi hi Francesca 22:57 * Francesca waves 22:48 mtompset Sweet! I think I got this unloved patch reworking for master. :) 22:31 akafred :-( 22:29 JesseM not looking to good akafred 22:29 akafred JesseM: Hope you have better Internet connection than I have ... 22:14 JesseM akafred im working on installing now 22:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, vanoudt, Needs Signoff , Allow login via Google OAuth2 22:07 mtompset bug 10988 22:07 mtompset So, it would be better to tweak the patch to not use it? 22:06 rangi ignore it for now 22:06 drojf good night #koha 22:06 rangi its an idea for updates that are atomic .. and dont require a specific order 22:06 mtompset installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate specifically. 22:05 mtompset out of curiousity, what is atomicupdate? 22:02 rangi mtompset: yes 22:02 eythian so happy birthday from Tuesday :) 22:02 bag cait still 10 hours in california left 22:02 mtompset Next question... are we still using updatedatabase.pl and sysprefs.sql to add system preferences? 22:01 eythian some of us are in the future here. 22:01 cait1 stillone hour left :) 22:01 bag happy birthday cait1 22:00 mtompset Happy Birthday, cait1. :) 22:00 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 11.1°C (10:59 PM CET on March 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 22:00 cait1 @wunder Marseille 22:00 mtompset I just found a bug sitting in Needs Signoff, that needed some loving, and it needs some reworking. :) 21:59 rangi yep and prog 21:58 mtompset CCSR has been deprecated, right? 21:58 mtompset Greetings, bag. 21:58 wahanui mtompset is, like, catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry 21:58 bag heya mtompset 21:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:53 indradg aah! 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13331 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Subfield does not show in cataloging editor - if subfield is disabled in OPAC/enabled in Staff, via frameworks 21:53 gmcharlt indradg: looks like bug 13331 21:53 * indradg goes to look at the code 21:52 indradg ok! thats all I wanted to confirm! thanks! :) 21:52 gmcharlt indradg: yep, that smells buggy 21:48 indradg I want these two fields only on the intranet... so I'm trying to understand if I'm missing something 21:47 indradg http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/catadmin.html#editsubfields says to turn on visibility based on where you want it 21:46 indradg and the moment I cllck "OPAC" on, everything works 21:46 indradg gmcharlt: field "Fund utilized" 21:45 indradg http://picpaste.com/marceditor_03.jpg 21:45 indradg http://picpaste.com/marceditor_02.jpg 21:45 indradg gmcharlt: http://picpaste.com/marceditor_01.jpg 21:42 rangi heh thats never fun 21:39 * akafred notes that his hotel in Marseille is not soundproof ... 21:36 gmcharlt but yeah, on the face of it that situation seems buggish 21:36 gmcharlt indradg: fully hidden, or not expanded? 21:34 rangi hmm i cant say ive used the framework editor in the last year or so, so wouldnt know, sounds like a bug though 21:30 indradg rangi: until i turned on the visibiltiy for OPAC, the subfield was created by remained hidden in the editor 21:24 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 21:24 rangi @later tell joubu http://git-scm.com/blog/2010/03/08/rerere.html <-- something to show at the hackfest maybe? 21:24 eythian hi 21:23 rangi indradg: not sure 21:23 drojf mveron++ 21:23 drojf mveron: done. yes would be nice to have that in. thanks for the patches 21:19 indradg why so? and what am I missing... any idea? 21:19 indradg a question: in the marc framework editor, I was adding a new subfield under 952, found that unless I checked "OPAC" visibiltiy, the auth_val linked select is not being made visible... 21:17 rangi does anyone have a copy of the kohacon13 logo? 21:17 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon_History 21:17 indradg hi #koha 21:06 rangi its a long way either way i think 21:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4041 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Address Format as a I18N/L10N system preference 21:06 rangi not sure 21:06 mveron Drojf: Oh, great,just wanted to ask... I hope we get Bug 4041 in soon... 21:05 talljoy heck of a flight from here as well. would you fly west or east to get there? 21:05 talljoy i'd love to go, but i went last year. 21:05 rangi depends on if i can convince work to pay, can't afford it otherwise 21:04 talljoy rangi are you going? 21:04 talljoy awesome logo!!! 21:04 mveron hi drojf :-) 21:04 drojf :) 21:04 drojf going to check your patch 21:03 drojf hi mveron 21:03 rangi http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cropped-Kohacon15-corrections-inverted-copy.png <--- cool kohacon15 logo 21:03 mveron hi #koha 21:01 talljoy sweet. 21:00 rangi kohacon15 registration open 21:00 rangi ohhh 20:58 talljoy dagnabbit. 20:58 talljoy jcamins around today? 20:57 rangi clrh: up to date now 20:47 clrh thanks rangi 20:39 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ starting now 20:37 rangi drojf: cool :) and yeah :) 20:37 clrh great \o/ 20:37 drojf rangi: no looks ok. sounds ok too. but will have a problem once i get a german exit node ;) 20:37 rangi (monday that is) 20:37 rangi yeah ill go back to there and start it from then, so all the stuff today will count 20:36 clrh oh you can setup monday 9am ? 20:36 rangi cool ill update from there 20:36 rangi drojf: probably slowly? 20:36 clrh yep around 20:36 rangi you started 9am marseille time eh? 20:36 drojf grooveshark html5 version works in tor :D 20:35 clrh thanks rangi :) 20:34 drojf soundcloud works 20:34 rangi ahh yep i can do that 20:34 rangi ahhh bummer drojf ... soundcloud? 20:34 clrh rangi: about scoreboard reset for hackfest 20:34 rangi hmm nope let me read back 20:34 drojf germany 20:34 drojf there is no grooveshark in germana 20:34 rangi ahh i cant work without headphones and music :) 20:34 clrh did you see my ping this (my) morning ? 20:34 clrh there is no music in the open space ;) 20:33 clrh woki :) 20:33 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/I+See+Bugs+And+All+I+Wanna+Do+Is+Bang+Bang+Bang+And+Take+Their+Money/57969319 <-- or that :) 20:32 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Koha+Hacking/8190140 <-- like that 20:32 clrh what do you call playlist ? 20:32 rangi hey drojf 20:32 clrh playlist rangi ? 20:32 rangi i wonder if anyone has made a hackfest playlist? 20:32 clrh hi rangi 20:30 drojf hi rangi 20:30 rangi morning 19:45 drojf there are still bugs left for signoff. what kind of hackfest is that? :P 17:53 ashimema_ been tryig to say that all day :) 17:53 ashimema_ happy birthday cait 17:53 ashimema_ cait.. 17:33 cait_ heading to omalleys 16:45 nlegrand hey magnuse ^^ 16:24 magnuse hiya nlegrand 16:17 nlegrand Hey #koha 16:04 nengard yes, i'm in favor of removing it 16:02 cait would you be in favor ofremoving it then? 16:02 nengard cait all our libraries leave it set to the default value - so i don't think they'd notice if we removed it - i actually skip it in training 16:01 cait i am just interested if you see a reason why we shoudl keep the pref maybe / if one of oyur partners uses it 16:01 cait nengard: could oyu take a look at bug  13497 - he pref AddPatronLists should be removed ? 16:00 reiveune bye 15:56 tcohen_ magnuse: that's not what the tool is intended for 15:52 magnuse so "koha-translate -c" works as it should, but there is no way to "create" with koha-translate 15:25 huginn magnuse: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 13 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tcohen++ 15:25 magnuse @seen bgkriegel 15:15 clrh https://trello.com/c/t1SdrZrm/75-browser-based-tests-for-koha now :) 15:15 ashimema_mobile Many kitties saved yet ;-) 15:15 ashimema_mobile How's it going at hackfest then? 15:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #245 for job Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB (previous build: FIXED) 15:13 ashimema_mobile Happy birthday cait 15:13 magnuse bonjour ashimema_mobile 15:13 ashimema_mobile Afternoon peeps 15:13 magnuse does "sudo koha-translate -c <language>" not work? 15:05 magnuse bag: HI 15:02 barton ... but we can test that tomorrow. 15:02 barton cait: I think that Jessem's birthday affects the Bywater trouble ticket queue. 15:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #309 for job Koha_Master_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:01 cait w can test that theory with JesseM tomorrow 15:01 cait heh 15:01 barton Ta-da! cait has a magical birthday. If jenkins doesn't build, have someone wish you a happy birthday, and it will be fixed :-) 14:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #320 for job Koha_Master_U12 (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:57 cait thx :) 14:56 * barton wishes cait a clean build of Koha for her birthday. 14:54 barton Happy birthday, cait! 14:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #297 for job Koha_Master_D6 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 14:51 talljoy happy birthday cait! 14:50 bag magnuse HI 14:49 magnuse NSO = 140 :-) 14:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13731: Suggestions reason does not save on updating the status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45e5afb77b8185eda9151cde7943577201671d17> / Bug 13745: Fix serial collection page to always show branch name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90ac9ec545b9883de63943daef0ffe0692c1b799> / Bug 13741: "No fund found" is not translatable <http://git.koha-community.org 14:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #320 for job Koha_Master_D7 (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:16 Viktor magnuse: The guys doing the actual rescuing is on the other side of the atlantic. I only provide the funding. But yes it's good :) 14:08 magnuse rescuing stuff from "doesn't apply" is perhaps even cooler than signing off 14:08 magnuse very cool! 14:07 Viktor magnuse: I'll try and test 12768, 12769, 12770, 12624, 12771 and 12772 but they don't apply anymore so I'll do it in the test environment I got from the guys who wrote them. It's for more flexible overdues. 14:07 magnuse Fredagsmys! we should make that a tradition in #koha 14:03 Viktor Although chocholate is not really "fika", but rather for "Fredagsmys" 14:01 Viktor marcelr Nope - And it's time for "Fika" so I'll add them to the candy-table. 14:00 Viktor half a kilo today and another to be welcome back tomorrow :) 14:00 marcelr virtual chocolates? 14:00 Viktor I did bring chocolate however to increase the mood if adding NSO is frowned upon :) 13:59 marcelr Viktor: in that case you should really sign off another two :) 13:58 Viktor magnuse: I just added one that is really quick to sign off. Hope to be forgiven for adding NSO instead of signing off :) 13:47 magnuse NSO is down from 147 this morning to 143 now. moar signoffs please! 13:22 akafred Last call: See development setups in the large meeting room now :-) #hfk15 :-) 13:13 matts Anyway if no one moves, I'll start to poke random hackfest attendants IRL :) 13:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Add intranet support for CAS authentication 13:13 matts Hey fellow Hackfesters, anyone up to test & signoff Bug 13507 ? I can help for the test part. 13:09 Viktor matts: Aah. The Danish are good at depicting rough environments. Might have to see it :) 13:09 matts I've mixed it all up :) 13:08 magnuse matts: ah... :-) 13:08 matts magnuse, viktorsarge__ , in fact it was neither from Sweden nor from Norway... Danish movie : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2650986/ 13:04 akafred And the Koha in Docker-session tomorrow at 2 PM / 14:00. 13:04 akafred I have suggested the intro on browser based testing at 4 PM / 16:00 today. 12:52 druthb hi 12:52 nengard bon jour druthb 12:31 * drojf sends some duct tape to marseille 12:22 drojf heh 12:19 sophie_m1 fridolin1 has deconnected the wifi spot 12:19 mveron to 12:19 * mveron has tu run, meeting 12:19 * mveron thinks that they have lunch... 12:14 drojf so france is offline? :P 11:56 akafred I hope more people will show highlights of their development environments in the session at 2 o'clock today. fridolin1 will show Eclipse-setup, I know kivilahtio / kivilahtio2 uses something else (please join!), and magnuse also has a virtual machine-setup I hope he will talk about! 11:54 bag ;) 11:54 bag dpavlin++ 11:49 cait dpavlin++ :) 11:46 huginn 04Bug 13773: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , add stock number to details and items display 11:46 dpavlin cait: you said that you like stocknumbers: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13773 11:36 fridolin1 every one is welcomed 11:36 fridolin1 akafred: i've set the due date in trello 11:36 akafred yes :-) 11:35 fridolin1 ? 11:35 fridolin1 akafred: whould you be ok for "Koha-development setup" this afternoon 11:21 clrh rangi: when you'll pass here, I am interested in a reset of scoreboard for hackfest :) thanks ;) 11:07 cait :) 11:06 nengard cait i understand 11:06 nengard :) 11:06 marcelr :) 11:06 cait not really productive yet... but working on it 11:06 cait yes 11:06 marcelr cait: in france now? 11:05 cait hi marcel 11:04 marcelr hi #koha 10:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13772 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , koha-translate still looks for ccsr and prog OPAC themes 10:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 10:59 * magnuse was going to test bug 7939 - then i found bug 13772 and did a patch for it instead... 10:59 Joubu clrh: ask rangi :) 10:58 mtj tee hee ;p 10:57 nengard LOL 10:56 mtj keep the food ones coming nengard 10:56 * mtj is loving the hackfest photos, so far :0) 10:54 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 10:54 gaetan_B hello 10:52 mtj clrh: i think rangi is the reset person for scoreboard 10:51 mtj hi all 10:49 alex_a hie fridolin ! 10:48 fridolin hie allllll 10:36 clrh how can we reset http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ ? 10:32 cait i need to get started 10:32 magnuse moin drojf 10:08 tcohen morning! 10:07 bag kivilahtio: http://elasticsearch.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz 10:04 drojf well, depends if i got relevant stuff in the mail 10:03 drojf not really, it's more like paperwork and ugly stuff day for me 10:02 cait there is a trello board 10:02 cait ready to sign off? :) 10:02 cait hi drojf 10:01 drojf good morning #koha 09:41 wahanui hello, bag 09:41 bag ashimema: hi there 09:14 ashimema_mobile Send my best to everyone 09:14 ashimema_mobile Gotta change train, back a bit later 09:14 ashimema_mobile That's a good one to get fixed 09:14 * magnuse suggested it and feels kind of responsible ;-) 09:13 ashimema_mobile Awesome 09:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 09:13 * magnuse plans to try and sign off bug 7939 09:12 magnuse ashimema_mobile: cheese is tomorrow :-) 09:12 ashimema_mobile Unreliable mobile signal on the train 09:12 ashimema_mobile (ashimema_mobile) I'm out with a customer this morning.. Gotta work out what level of accessibility they need from the opac.. They seem to want aaa 09:09 ashimema_mobile Got any plans on what your going to hack on yet 09:08 ashimema_mobile Eat plenty of cheese for me today aye 09:08 ashimema_mobile Hey magnuse 09:08 magnuse hiya ashimema_mobile 09:04 nengard morning ashimema_mobile 09:02 ashimema_mobile Have fun all that are there... I'll be watching irc for news? ;-) 09:01 ashimema_mobile Morning hackfesters 08:36 * Viktor waves at Magnuse and thinks it's nice to be able to do it across the room for once :) 08:36 * magnuse waves at Viktor 08:22 * magnuse waves again 08:04 bag magnuse: HI 07:57 nengard :) 07:57 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:57 reiveune hello 07:53 nengard hello 07:50 * mveron waves to Marseille 07:49 mveron Hi #koha 07:45 nengard good morning #koha from marseille 07:43 bag bonjour 07:43 bag good morning 07:31 matts hi #koha ! 07:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 10.3°C (8:09 AM CET on March 02, 2015). Conditions: Shallow Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 07:10 cait @wunder Marseille 05:09 AmitG chris around? 04:57 dcook Nifty 04:57 dcook Nevermind 04:57 dcook Ahh 04:56 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Runtime_Variables 04:56 * dcook wonders when this "Runtime Variables" thing happened... 04:34 dcook Never a dull moment :) 04:34 * dcook is now comparing time in NSW, Australia versus the UK versus Lebanon... 04:32 dcook You know I never thought about it... but I suppose where your server is hosted could matter with your circulation times... 03:45 dcook hehe 03:43 wizzyrea 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. < is like a zen state. 03:42 wizzyrea and it should be back now 03:39 wizzyrea I'm rebooting koha-community.org right now for security updates. Just saying. 01:26 * ibeardslee is just waiting for some big pharma to patent it 01:25 wizzyrea ibeardslee: that was my understanding 01:24 ibeardslee .. ^^ not using scientific jargon 01:24 ibeardslee wizzyrea: scientifically manuka honey has some better things in it for antibadthing properties 01:20 jcamins So-called. 01:20 jcamins Speaking of things that are better than purified alternatives used in the States, have you ever had black lava sea salt? 01:19 wizzyrea that = clarified honey 01:19 wizzyrea even the arataki stuff in the tub is better than that. 01:18 wizzyrea not sure, anecdotally the manuka honey is more soothing than the clarified stuff we used to get in the states. 01:18 eythian e.g. between different types 01:17 eythian I wonder how well that honey thing generalises 01:15 wizzyrea (pediatricians don't recommend cough medicine for kids, at all, really.) 01:15 jcamins Maybe I'll get my voice back for more than an hour tomorrow! 01:14 jcamins This reminds me. I should probably have some hot water, whisky, and honey. 01:14 wizzyrea honey is "safer" and also proven more effective on coughs in trials (for kids. Probably for grown people too.) 01:14 ibeardslee the honey place near sanson had some whisky & honey liqueur .. it was quite nice 01:13 wizzyrea you can't give that to little people :( 01:13 eythian it contains dextromethorphan? 01:12 wizzyrea IF ONLY. 01:12 jcamins But it comes premixed with whisky? :) 01:12 wizzyrea I think it tastes a bit funny with other stuff, anyway. 01:12 wizzyrea the honey itself is just manuka honey. 01:12 wizzyrea that I use specifically for coughs. 01:12 wizzyrea I have a jar of manuka honey that's specifically for coughs. 01:11 eythian ibeardslee: nah, it's not manuka. Just ... newtown, I guess. 01:11 jcamins In my experience. 01:11 jcamins Local bees make the best honey in general. 01:11 ibeardslee mmm manuka honey 01:11 wizzyrea local bees make the best honey for fighting local diseases. 01:10 wizzyrea bless browser history sync'd across devices (though... terrifying.) 01:09 jcamins I guess I should eat one of my medicinal cookies, now that we've concluded the best thing is whisky. 01:09 wizzyrea http://vinepair.com/wine-blog/drunk-aunt-right-hot-toddy-cure-common-cold/?adbid=10152538328942026&adbpl=fb&adbpr=17786732025&xid=social_20150120_39077927 01:09 ibeardslee in those portions? 01:09 eythian also netflix 01:09 wizzyrea I stand by that. 01:09 wizzyrea lemon, honey, whisky, water. 01:09 ibeardslee "but wizzyrea said it was better" 01:09 * eythian has a jar of local-bee honey complete with a wedge of honeycomb floating in the top. It's pretty good. 01:09 wizzyrea http://www.food.com/recipe/dr-pats-hot-toddy-cold-remedy-234344 01:08 ibeardslee wizzyrea: I'm tempted to use that evidence when I next have a cold at work. 01:08 jcamins Honey I have. 01:08 eythian honey is also good to add 01:07 jcamins Maybe I should get lemons. 01:07 ibeardslee althought you can't really tell after you've gone through most of the bottle 01:07 jcamins wizzyrea: Shari read that too, actually. 01:07 rangi sure tastes a bunch better too 01:06 wizzyrea I read not long ago that the hot toddy was the absolute best cold remedy, beating out even cold medicine in a trial. 01:06 eythian some brands have good years and bad years of casking, but that's a level of knowledge above what I currently possess. 01:05 jcamins Well, this Scotch is old, anyway. Even if it isn't particularly aged. 01:05 rangi yeah it just has age 01:04 jcamins Though I guess scotch doesn't have vintages, since A) wheat doesn't grow on vines, and B) there are no dates on the bottle. 01:04 jcamins It's Dewar's 1960s vintage. 01:03 jcamins But that's okay, I can't tell the difference. 01:03 jcamins I think it is, at best, okay scotch. 01:03 jcamins Heh. I don't think this is good scotch. 01:03 eythian you don't mix your good scotch 01:02 eythian in separate glasses 01:01 rangi yup, with hot water and lemon 01:00 jcamins That makes my whisky coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies _medicinal_! 01:00 jcamins Hey, whisky is a common folk remedy for laryngitis, isn't it?