Time  Nick         Message
00:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #304: NOW UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/304/
00:35 gmcharlt     tcohen: got side-tracked today, but I'll have a patch ready tomorrow afternoon
01:25 mtj          hey eythian_, a little package Q here...
01:25 mtj          .if i was building a 3.16.x package, would i be using 'squeeze' or 'squeeze-dev'... or other?
01:33 mtj          i'm guessing squeeze
04:49 dcook        Hmm, I've never really used Getopt::Long with multiple values
04:49 dcook        I'm liking it though :D
06:37 * magnuse    waves
06:42 magnuse      wunder boo
06:42 magnuse      tomorrow we are in for a "violent storm" and up to 31 m/s wind http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Nordland/Bod%C3%B8/Saltvern_skole/hour_by_hour.html
06:57 magnuse      waves might be 25 meters tall
07:55 reiveune     hello
07:55 wahanui      que tal, reiveune
08:01 alex_a       bonjour
08:17 kivilahtio   hyvää huomenta
08:17 gaetan_B     hello
08:23 Joubu        hello
08:23 wahanui      hi, Joubu
08:33 cait         hi Joubu
08:37 kivilahtio   Does anybody remember how to implement search for new material in the OPAC?
08:37 kivilahtio   Our customers yearn for new material
08:39 cait         kivilahtio: an easy way to do it is add a search link sorted by date acquired
08:39 cait         but there are differnt ways around
08:39 cait         you can also take a look at the opac of hlt
08:39 kivilahtio   hlt?
08:39 wahanui      rumour has it hlt is Horowhenua Library Trust http://www.library.org.nz
08:40 kivilahtio   ok
08:40 kivilahtio   hmmm
08:40 kivilahtio   cait: I think we are interested in genuine new Biblios, which have genuinely new Items
08:40 kivilahtio   cait: not also new Items for existing biblios
08:40 kivilahtio   but all that is indexed to zebra
08:41 cait         i think so
08:41 kivilahtio   cait: also, the dateaxxessioned is not the same date as when the item arrived to our library  and is available
08:41 cait         or you can build a public report and do something with the json output of it
08:42 cait         i think doing a report and working out something nice from the json would probably be easiest if you have multiple conditions
08:42 kivilahtio   cait: it is so slow :)
08:43 cait         hm that depends i guess :)
08:43 cait         some libraries use a special location for new material i think
08:52 magnuse      doesn't caching of public reports take care of the slowness?
08:52 cait         @later tell drojf ping again please :)
08:52 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
08:52 cait         magnuse: good point
08:52 magnuse      there is an enh under way related to new stuff
08:52 magnuse      let me check
09:03 magnuse      hm, i can't seem to find the enh i am looking for
09:05 cait         which one are you looking for?
09:05 cait         ah new
09:06 magnuse      some way to mark items as new
09:06 magnuse      and be able to use that for e.g. lists of new books
09:06 magnuse      not sure if it was item or record level
09:06 cait         ah
09:06 cait         that changed scope a bit
09:06 magnuse      ah
09:07 cait         bug 11023?
09:07 magnuse      something about autmatic status changes?
09:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11023 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Automatic item modification by age (Was "Toggle new status for items")
09:07 magnuse      ah yes, i think that is the one
09:07 magnuse      kivilahtio: could that be of interest to you?
09:07 cait         i knew it was in pqa, that narrowed the search down
09:08 kivilahtio   magnuse: I think I have taken a look at that before
09:09 kivilahtio   this is such a hard nut to crack
09:16 magnuse      also Bug 10756
09:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10756 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bob, ASSIGNED , Carousel Display of New Titles on OPAC home page
09:26 magnuse      kia ora paul_p
09:26 paul_p       hi magnuse & others
09:40 drojf        hi #koha
09:40 drojf        cait: ping :)
09:42 magnuse      moin drojf
09:44 drojf        hei magnuse
09:57 cait         Joubu: ugh.
09:57 cait         for the overdue bug - we never use without -t so maybe my testing there was not good
09:58 Joubu        same for me
09:59 Joubu        I am not sure, but the -t can be impacted too
10:00 cait         i thought ihad tested that pretty rigorously, but might have to be more far in the future hm.
10:39 reiveune     Azzurro Pizza paul_p_
10:50 magnuse      pizza friday!
10:50 drojf        mhhh pizza
10:50 drojf        that was supposed to be mmmh but you get the idea :D
10:56 magnuse      yup
10:57 * magnuse    will make pizza in 3,5 hours
11:50 tcohen       morning
11:54 drojf        hi tcohen
11:56 tcohen       hi drojf
12:09 drojf        sign for weekend ;)
12:10 cait         or that my mostly finished support ticket needs to be completely rewritten now?
12:10 drojf        argh
12:10 cait         yep
12:10 drojf        i blame windows
12:11 drojf        that does not help you with the ticket, sadly
12:13 cait         nope
12:13 cait         but often the second version is better anyway *shrug*
12:13 cait         at elats it will be shorter
12:56 tcohen       Joubu: there's problems with jenkins
13:06 tcohen_      Joubu: could you take a look at the failing t/db_dependent/Acquisition* tests? it is related to a patch from you adding foreign key constrains
13:14 cait         ashimema: having to explain to someone how to catalog multi-volume works in koha... using my notes from a certain training i did :)
13:30 kivilahtio   Does somebody on this channel use Windows?
13:30 kivilahtio   Where's my pitchfork
13:34 oleonard     kivilahtio: Are you looking for help testing something in Windows or do you just want to berate someone for using Windows?
13:35 kivilahtio   oleonard: drojf blamed Windows 14:11:01
13:35 kivilahtio   regarding that
13:35 cait         i better hide then
13:35 kivilahtio   oleonard: Also I lerned a new word today! yay!
13:36 * oleonard   happily uses Windows, Mac, and Linux on a daily basis
13:37 tcohen       Joubu: around?
13:39 karis        hi
13:39 wahanui      privet, karis
14:14 kivilahtio   Have a nice weekend!
14:17 Joubu        tcohen: yep ?
14:17 wahanui      yep.
14:35 magnuse      i need to edit some zebra indexes. now that grs1 is on the way out i won't worry about record.abs. but should i still edit biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and transform that into biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl?
14:35 magnuse      or can i edit biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xs directly?
14:36 magnuse      s/xs/xsl/
14:36 cait         i think it's always xml to xsl
14:36 cait         but not transforming from record.abs but making an xsl out of our xml... i
14:36 cait         it's on the wiki
14:37 magnuse      ok, that shouldn't do any harm, at least
14:39 magnuse      cait: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/zebra#DOM_indexing ?
14:40 magnuse      oh well, time to secure our stuff against the coming winds - have fun #koha
14:44 peggy        I've been reading Apache logs for our server and have found that for each keywork OPAC search that there are two GET requests.
14:45 peggy        This doesn't happen for title, author, or subject searches - just keyword
14:45 peggy        They look like this:
14:45 peggy        3 Feb 2015 13:45:05 -0500] GET cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=half+the+sky&branch_group_limit=branch%3ADOVER HTTP
14:45 peggy        3 Feb 2015 13:45:05 -0500] GET cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=half+the+sky&branch_group_limit=branch%3ADOVER HTTP
14:45 tcohen       Joubu: failing tests after your patch that added fa foreign key constrain to the acquisitions
14:45 peggy        So they are almost identical - except for the "idx=" at the beginning.
14:45 peggy        Is there a reason for two requests?
14:49 Joubu        tcohen: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/304/#showFailuresLink these ones?
14:50 tcohen       yeap
14:51 Joubu        tcohen: they pass here, odd
14:51 Joubu        it seems to come from the number of tests planned
14:51 tcohen       nope
14:51 tcohen       a sec
14:52 Joubu        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/304/testReport/%28root%29/t_db_dependent_Acquisition_Invoices_t/Number_of_runned_tests_does_not_match_plan___662_/
14:52 Joubu        the "standard output" does not look good
14:53 tcohen       http://snag.gy/uXHUM.jpg
14:54 cait         peggy: i had that happen once and it was wrong css causing it :(
14:54 cait         peggy: maybe look if you have url() or similar in or url("") r something like this in your csss
14:55 peggy        cait: Hmmm
14:55 cait         peggy: do you have a link to your opac?
14:55 cait         and i know it sounds weird - pianohacker found it in the end - not sure it's thes ame problem in your case, but it caused double requests in our case :)
14:55 peggy        http://librarycatalog.dover.nh.gov/
14:56 Joubu        tcohen: sorry but they pass on my installation
14:57 cait         peggy: i thnk firebug - network tab might be helpful for you
14:58 cait         it says that the image arrow-right-grey-11x6.png does not exist for example
14:58 cait         maybe try removing that from your opacusercss
14:58 cait         background: url("../../images/arrow-right-grey-11x6.png") no-repeat scroll left center transparent;
14:59 cait         it might not fix it - but it's another little bug :)
14:59 tcohen       Joubu: can u try on a clean db?
15:00 peggy        cait:  OK.  Well that gives me an entirely different way of looking at things.  Who knew??
15:01 peggy        (Glad you do!)
15:01 cait         only forwarding what pianohacker told me
15:01 cait         did it make a difference?
15:01 peggy        I'll need to experiment...
15:02 Joubu        tcohen: yep
15:02 tcohen       mysql version?
15:02 tcohen       you used Perl 5.20
15:02 tcohen       i'll give it a try
15:03 tcohen       it fails to me, in 14.04 and so in 12.04, d6 and d7
15:06 Joubu        yes 5.20, but you are right, it is certainly the data
15:08 Joubu        tcohen: ok, I get it
15:08 tcohen       ?
15:09 Joubu        tcohen: I get the failure with a fresh DB
15:12 Joubu        tests++ :)
15:13 Joubu        and foreign_keys++
15:13 tcohen       =D
15:13 Joubu        tcohen: I fixed it, new or same bug report?
15:14 cait         Joubu++ tcohen++ :)
15:14 tcohen       is it a bug on Acquisitions.pm?
15:14 Joubu        yes
15:14 tcohen       new one
15:14 Joubu        actually it's a bug before the patch :)
15:14 Joubu        and the tests + the fk highlight it
15:14 peggy        cait::  Removing the arrow-right-grey does make it a little faster.  There are still the two requests.  But firebug will allow me to see better what is happening.
15:14 tcohen       Joubu++
15:14 tcohen       tests++
15:15 cait         peggy: cool :)
15:15 cait         you have a lot of externa scrips, looks quite differnt to ours
15:17 peggy        What is your URL?
15:19 cait         we have lots :)
15:21 peggy        cait: since our system was set up for me, I don't know what is optional and what is mandatory.  Can you point me to one of yours as an example?
15:21 cait         i see lots of requests for idreamboosk and a cover service on yours, that's the main difference
15:23 Joubu        tcohen: bug 13675
15:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13675 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , the budget of an order is set to null if not changed on receiving
15:23 cait         [off] https://inm.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=der  woudl be an example
15:23 peggy        Yes, the covers are required here.   The idreambooks is a review service that shows the popularity.
15:26 peggy        Thanks.  Now I have lots of investigating to do.  I still want to figure out why the double request, too.
15:34 peggy        cait:  you have the two requests, too.
15:45 cait         yeah :)
15:46 cait         i saw it but i am still in denial... or not sur both are full requests
15:46 cait         hm interesting
15:46 wahanui      i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
15:46 cait         [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=der - doesn't seem to happen here
15:47 cait         hmmm now if i go to the patches it looks fine
15:47 cait         maybe it's something that has to do with caching?
15:49 peggy        cait: I see two requests for the last one.
15:50 peggy        It is really consistent here - from all IPs.  So I would find it hard to believe that it is a brower cache thing.  Is there other caching going on?
15:51 peggy        a 302 response is URL redirection.
15:52 peggy        A title search still has the "idx=" but isn't followed by the non-"idx=" redirect.
15:52 peggy        What is different between a straight keyword search and a title search?
15:56 cait         peggy: only 1 request for both for me now hm
16:00 reiveune     bye
16:20 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
16:20 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -3.0°C (4:50 PM CET on February 06, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
16:56 Joubu        teaser: I did not completely finished, but I created a quick and dirty selenium script today, and I launched it on master, 3.18.x and 3.16.x
16:57 Joubu        the script create a patron category, a patron, 3 items and 3 checkouts + 3 checkin
16:57 Joubu        it spent 50sec on 3.18.x and master
16:57 Joubu        and ... 40 sec on 3.16.x
16:57 Joubu        continuing next week
16:57 Joubu        have a good w-e
16:57 Joubu        tcohen: ^
17:09 gaetan_B     bye
17:32 tcohen       Joubu: great job! have a nice w-e too!
17:55 mveron       Hi #koha
17:55 mveron       @wunder Allschwil
17:55 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 1.0°C (6:55 PM CET on February 06, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
17:59 drojf        hi mveron :)
17:59 mveron       hi drojf :-)
19:04 tcohen       later #koha
20:38 tcohen       hi
20:45 cait         hi
20:51 cait         @wunder Konstanz
20:51 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is -2.2°C (9:51 PM CET on February 06, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
21:02 tcohen       brr
21:37 wnickc       Hi cait
21:38 cait         hi wnickc :)
21:39 wnickc       bug 11982, should that be passed QA?  It looks like it was just a rebase.  I also think two patches are accidentally obsoleted
21:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11982 minor, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Show local cover images in the biblio details page in the intranet.
21:39 wnickc       and how are you too? :)
21:40 cait         off duty right now
21:40 cait         ubt i can try to take a look tomorrow?
21:40 wnickc       no worries
21:41 cait         kind of long days currently with a big project, need some sleep first :)
21:41 wnickc       was just trying to do some testing, will be around tomorrow oo
21:41 wnickc       yes, sleep is good
21:43 wnickc       also, next week is fine, saturdays are for resting