Time  Nick         Message
00:14 eythian      http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/65672348/hawera-police-rescue-hedgehog-and-snail <-- it's all over the news now!
00:16 rangi        heh
00:38 * Francesca  waves
00:38 rangi        hi Francesca
00:39 Francesca    hey rangi
00:39 Francesca    I've got my timetable finalised now for uni
00:40 rangi        cool
00:40 Francesca    Are tuesdays ok for irc sessions for work experience?
00:41 rangi        yep that should be fine
00:42 Francesca    sweet! is there any time in particular that suits you? I have no classes that day so anytime works for me
00:46 eythian      wahanui: seven layer burrito?
00:46 wahanui      i haven't a clue, eythian
00:47 eythian      wahanui: seven layer burrito is physical, data link, network, transport, session, presentation, application
00:47 wahanui      OK, eythian.
00:48 eythian      wahanui: seven stages of grief
00:48 wahanui      seven stages of grief are lettuce, tomatoes, rice, beans, sour cream, cheese, guacamole
00:49 rangi        Francesca: hmm probably round 1pm
00:49 eythian      wahanui: osi model
00:49 wahanui      osi model is, like, shock, denial, guilt, anger, bargaining, hope, acceptance
00:49 dcook        Hmm, looks like I missed some scrollback
00:49 Francesca    rangi: that works for me, are there any websites that need doing at the moment?
00:49 dcook        Ah..
00:50 dcook        eythian: Can't say I was ever fond of zebras :p
00:50 eythian      dcook: I don't believe you
00:50 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:50 wahanui      i think dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client
00:50 rangi        http://hea.koha-community.org/ you could have a look at this one
00:50 rangi        code is all here https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app
00:50 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:50 wahanui      rumour has it dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client
00:50 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:50 wahanui      dcook is the designated masochist
00:50 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:50 wahanui      it has been said that dcook is a zebra expert now
00:50 eythian      ^ there
00:51 dcook        lol
00:51 * dcook      thinks jcamins may have been trolling him...
00:51 dcook        Or maybe it was you
00:51 dcook        I can't remember anymore :p
00:52 Francesca    rangi: I'll have a look at that one now. Do you want me to just send merge requests when I push a change up?
00:53 rangi        Joubu looks after that site, so he will need to merge them, but yes. YOu might want to try to get it running locally, if you have a vm or something you can do it on. Because he wont have the time to merge for testing ... if that makes sense?
00:55 Francesca    uhh not really. And I don't have a vm at the moment ether. I might be able to run it off xammp though
00:59 rangi        *nod* because he wont be able to just merge and hope it works, because he is in france so the lag will mean broken for a while etc. So we will want to be sure it works before we send a merge request
01:01 Francesca    oh ok. I might be able to try and get it running via xammp then, I'll have to see. Also I don't have a git hub account, so will need to set one up before I start
01:09 eythian      dcook: If I'm looking at a string like '@attr 1=Heading @attr 3=2 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1', how do I know what those attr values are between the various types of bib1 attribs
01:09 eythian      oh, the first number is the type
01:09 eythian      the second is the value
01:09 eythian      yes?
01:10 eythian      I don't understand how they have a large document defining everything, but missing out on how they actually go together.
01:21 Francesca    rangi: I am set up on github now, remind me how I get a clone set up on my laptop?
01:22 rangi        you want to fork that repo first
01:22 rangi        https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app
01:22 rangi        top right
01:24 rangi        then you should have a copy of it under your username and there should be a url (you want the ssh one) that you can copy and paste
01:24 rangi        so git clone that_url
01:24 rangi        you might need to upload your ssh key first
01:24 * rangi      has to head out now to get the kids from school
01:24 Francesca    uhhh how do I do that?
01:24 * Francesca  waves
01:24 Francesca    see you rangi
01:30 mtj          hiya Francesca
01:30 mtj          -> https://help.github.com/articles/generating-ssh-keys/
01:32 Francesca    mtj thanks so much
01:32 Francesca    thats really helpful
01:35 mtj          no probs :0)
01:35 * eythian    notes that the 'exact' authority search claims to do no truncation, in fact does both left and right truncation
02:01 dcook        Hmm?
02:01 * dcook      was eating
02:02 dcook        hehe
02:02 * dcook      loves when something claims one thing but does the other
02:02 dcook        sounds like you've got it figured, eythian
02:02 dcook        The 1st number is definitely the type, and the 2nd is the value, yeah
02:03 dcook        I think this doc might explain: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html
02:03 eythian      yeah, it does, somewhat
02:11 dcook        And we're back...
02:32 dcook        Hmm... Perl 5.20.1 seems... interesting
02:33 dcook        I don't think there's an OS package for Text::CSV::Encoded, but I can't install it from CPAN either
02:33 dcook        Well, the tests fail at least...
02:34 eythian      $ apt-cache policy libtext-csv-encoded-perl
02:34 eythian      libtext-csv-encoded-perl:
02:34 eythian      Geïnstalleerd: (geen)
02:34 eythian      Kandidaat:     0.22-2
02:34 dcook        Me thinks Debian > OpenSuse
02:37 dcook        The newer versions have much perl packages which is nice, but still not good enough
02:37 dcook        Mind you, it might be a different problem with this particular instance of the OS
02:42 dcook        Hmm..
02:43 dcook        Looks like I wonder why it's 0.22-2...
02:43 dcook        It looks like in the actual 0.22 release that the test might just be buggy
02:43 dcook        https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=93438
02:48 dcook        I keep thinking that Perl 5.20 doesn't get along with Koha, but I don't remember why...
02:48 eythian      I'm not aware of any issues
02:48 eythian      but, that doesn't mean they're not there.
02:48 dcook        Hmm
02:49 eythian      I thought I did see something about unicode changes, but I can't really remember
02:49 dcook        It is possible that tcohen and some others have already cleaned them up
02:49 dcook        Or are working on them
02:49 dcook        Yeah, I thought I saw something about htat
02:49 dcook        that*
03:16 mtj          hey eythian, did you spot this ... -> http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html
03:16 eythian      mtj: yeah, I did
03:16 mtj          http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html
03:17 mtj          cool
03:17 eythian      that too
03:17 eythian      :)
03:33 mtj          the bib-1 query syntax seems to be the perfect compliment to the MARC spec
03:34 dcook        hehe
03:38 eythian      that's about right
03:58 mtj          hey, just curious... did we find a decent replacement for zebra's z39 service?
03:59 eythian      we're waiting for you to write one :)
04:14 mtj          i vaguely recall BL testing jzkit, i wonder how they got on...
04:27 mtj          hmm, i dont think ive seem this before, http://www.indexdata.com/simpleserver
04:28 eythian      looks neat
04:36 mtj          yeah, it really does, http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/Net-Z3950-SimpleServer/SimpleServer.pm
04:38 mtj          hmm... perhaps BL might have used that, to write their own z39 server
04:46 jcamins      mtj: there was a lengthy discussion about SimpleServer on the mailing list when BibLibre was working on Solr.
04:48 jcamins      Okay, not so much discussion as screed.
04:49 * jcamins    leaves.
04:55 dcook        Picking your way through Java versions is so fun...
04:57 * eythian    usually is able to ignore that
05:03 dcook        Wise
05:15 eythian      elasticsearch query formats don't mesh with the way we get "what to search for" information well at all.
05:15 * eythian    leaves the impedence mismatch to solve for tomorrow.
05:18 eythian      so far I've got it building up a set of query and filter bits, but they need to be merged together, accounting for searches that may have the same field twice.
05:19 eythian      also accounting for if we need a filter at all...
05:19 eythian      or even just the same query type twice
05:19 eythian      it's all a bit annoying that you can just throw an array of queries at es.
05:19 eythian      *can't
05:22 dcook        Not sure I follow but that sucks that it's annoying :(
05:23 eythian      it's just the syntax that it uses
05:24 eythian      http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/multi-query-strings.html <-- you have to do stuff like this
05:25 eythian      not too bad if you're designing something around ES itself, but annoying if you want to have a nice easy UI for someone to build a search query.
05:25 eythian      I wonder if I can just wrap it all in a bool 'should' query.
05:25 eythian      so it'll work even if there's only one entry (which will be the common case)
05:27 eythian      but I'll also have to add a filter level to handle exact matches, queries are for smart things that do tokenisation etc, but not for things where you want to do an exact match of a whole field, and then do subqueries inside that.
05:27 eythian      oh well, tomorrow's job
05:27 * eythian    &
07:00 dcook        "i wonder if its the same perl 5.20 we were spotting with utf8 and koha"
07:00 dcook        @later tell rangi what were the troubles with perl 5.20 + utf8 + koha again?
07:00 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
07:49 reiveune     hello
08:02 alex_a       bonjour
08:02 wahanui      que tal, alex_a
08:24 cait         hi #koha
08:32 gaetan_B     hello
08:32 cait         hi gaetan_B and matts :)
08:32 matts        hi cait !
08:39 cait         hi Viktor :)
08:46 fridolin     hie all
09:01 kivilahtio   hi there
09:01 wahanui      bidet, kivilahtio
09:01 Joubu        good morning #koha
09:06 cait         morning fridolin kivilahtio and Joubu :)
09:07 Joubu        @later tell tcohen someone reported on the ML that es.k-c.org is down (and still down)
09:07 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:15 marcelr      hi #koha
09:32 Viktor       Hi cait! And greetings #koha
09:35 Viktor       What would you guys throw extra cash at that needs to get done but no customers would pay for?
09:35 cait         Viktor: difficult question
09:36 Viktor       (We might get extra funding and I'd like to know that I don't prioritize extra development wrong.)
09:36 cait         Viktor: are you coming to the hackfest maybe?
09:37 Viktor       Hopefully I will cait, but I'm not sure yet.
09:37 cait         ah ok
09:37 Viktor       Plack is no1 on my wish list, but it seems to be moving along quite ok.
09:37 cait         just thinking that it would be a good place to discuss areas that need some love
09:38 cait         i haven't installed it yt - it seems there are different approaches to get it working currently
09:38 Viktor       Hm I think you are right cait. Eye to eye would make it easier for this kind of discussion.
09:38 Viktor       Yes I think it's at least two ways of installing Plack.
09:39 Viktor       But my what a pleasure it is to use Koha with Plack active.
09:39 cait         maybe i shoudl try sometime :)
09:39 Viktor       It's one of the most obvious improvements for the untrained eye.
09:39 cait         ah
09:40 Viktor       Everybody can see the improved speed so It's great for demoing for people interested in Koha.
09:40 cait         i guess i should put it on my hackfest list
09:40 cait         to find somebody to show me how to install it :)
09:41 Viktor       If I do make it to the hackfest I hope to get some work done with magnuse on the interactive signs that's had to wait for a cleanup.
09:41 cait         :)
09:42 Viktor       Last time magnuse installed Plack for us on a test run we hade problems with picking up the right translations. But otherwise known bugs seems to be getting fixed.
09:43 Viktor       How about major stuff like elasticsearch? Do you know how that is coming along?
09:43 cait         i talked to eythian a bit last night, i think Joubu has been working on getting a test system up?
09:43 cait         Joubu?
09:43 wahanui      i guess Joubu is going to add a letter for "acquisition", so there is no sense to keep claimacq
09:43 cait         i was hoping we might be ableto see something at the hackfest, but not sure
09:44 cait         wahanui: forget Joubu
09:44 wahanui      cait: I forgot joubu
09:44 Viktor       That would be sweet.
09:45 Joubu        cait: yes I tried, I have to retry this week
09:45 cait         Joubu: keeping fingers crossed then
09:46 Viktor       Fingers crossed :) Is it sort of proof of concept or a little more functionality in there?
09:47 cait         i think they are pretty far, but not sure again... need to find out more myself
09:47 Viktor       Quite exiting :) Thanks for the info!
09:48 cait         at least i think it's more than a poc - but really don#t have much info yet
09:49 cait         bug 12478
09:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Elasticsearch support for Koha
09:50 cait         comment 18 has a little info
09:51 Joubu        yes, that's why I try to test the branch. It's not really obvious what is implemented or will be
09:51 Joubu        the branch is based on 3.16 and should be rebased against master
09:52 Joubu        some conflicts expected, the Solr code has been removed
09:52 cait         ah right
09:52 Viktor       Seems to be more than POC indeed :)
09:52 Joubu        a few days ago, a new commit "authority wip" is appeared on the branch :)
09:52 cait         Joubu: thx for trying - really curious :)
09:53 Joubu        but it's a shame there is no doc to set it up
09:53 cait         yeah, i will bug eythian about it again i think
09:53 Joubu        and to explain what is done, what will be done, etc.
09:53 Joubu        Hope to manage to play with it this week :)
09:55 cait         left a comment on the bug
10:34 slef         Who runs es.koha-community.org ? Neither it or manual seems to be on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration
10:34 slef         Looks like it's at UNC
10:34 Joubu        slef: it's UNC, I let a tell later to tcohen this morning
10:35 slef         ok, I'll let the facebooker know we're aware and have sent it on
10:35 Joubu        slef: yep, thanks
10:36 slef         @later tell tcohen could you add any missing admin details you know to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration please?
10:36 huginn       slef: The operation succeeded.
11:07 drojf        hi #koha
11:30 * akafred    is ready for Marseille :-)
11:35 ashimema     @wunder stevenage, uk
11:35 huginn       ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 2.3°C (11:32 AM GMT on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
12:01 slef         @wunder WGYD
12:01 huginn       slef: Error: No such location could be found.
12:01 slef         @wunder EGYD
12:01 huginn       slef: The current temperature in Cranwell, United Kingdom is 2.0°C (11:50 AM GMT on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
12:01 slef         surprisingly similar
12:14 Viktor       Hei Magnuse!
12:18 cait         akafred: cool :)
12:19 cait         kivilahtio: you are doubled up int he spreadsheet :)
12:19 kivilahtio   cait: maaaaaan
12:21 kivilahtio   cait: thanks for the heads up, got it fixed
12:27 cait         what's the short letter for croatia?
12:28 cait         nm looked it up
12:30 Joubu        HR
12:30 cait         thx :)
12:37 Joubu        What is the usefulness of the "balance" value in the new dashboard entry? What does it represent?
12:38 cait         i think the idea of 'give and take'
12:39 cait         test others and get yours tested
12:40 kivilahtio   I am not very balanced. Looking forward to fixing that during the hackfest :)
12:40 Joubu        hum, so BibLibre is a bad student because the balance is negative?
12:40 cait         i'd not be so strict there i guess
12:41 cait         not sure if it counts signofss and qa currently too
12:42 Joubu        It's a very weird way of seeing things
12:42 cait         it's something that could create some discussion, that's for sure
12:42 cait         but discussion is not always bad
12:42 cait         especially since the needs sign off is exploding again
12:44 Joubu        I (represent BibLibre) spent a lot of time to fix bugs and not to signoff patches, but it is not for BibLibre itself.
12:44 Joubu        This balance means it is more valuable to signoff than fix a bug
12:45 cait         it's a good point
12:45 Joubu        anyway, it's just number, I don't personnaly care
12:45 Joubu        Just wondering what it reflects for others
12:45 cait         i think rangi did it last weekend, not sure - haven't seen him much
12:46 Joubu        "BibLibre (and ByWater, Olli, etc.) takes and doesn't give"
12:46 kivilahtio   By taking, it should count how many times git bz apply has been used :)
12:47 kivilahtio   Submitting patches is definetely taking :)
12:47 Joubu        Hum, I develop a lot of patches for "the community"
12:48 kivilahtio   Joubu: that was a joke
12:48 kivilahtio   a poor one nevertheless
12:48 Joubu        when it's bugfix, it's often bugfix for new versions, BibLibre's customers don't use it yet
12:48 Joubu        they are still using 3.14... for the major part
12:48 kivilahtio   Joubu: you are paving the way!
12:49 cait         i think itw oudl be a good point to say bugfixes belong to the other column
12:49 cait         but i am not sure if you can really represent it in number well
12:52 cait         off to a webinar
12:52 cait         bbl
12:55 drojf        i do not read that as "biblibre (or anyone else) is bad". it would be interesting to differentiate between bugfixes and enhancements though
12:59 marcelr      Joubu: what about the QAs in your balance?
13:00 Joubu        marcelr: I don't understand what "balance" means
13:01 Joubu        #patches - #SO = balance
13:01 Joubu        ok if you want, but it does not mean something for me
13:01 cait         hm i think so - patches
13:01 cait         waiting for the call :)
13:02 Joubu        maybe #patches + #so + #qa = contribution means something...
13:04 * magnuse    waves in a slightly head cold way
13:04 magnuse      kia ora Viktor
13:05 Viktor       kia ora Magnuse
13:10 tcohen       morning!
13:10 marcelr      hi tcohen
13:11 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
13:11 magnuse      cait: kohadevbox has plack set up
13:11 magnuse      ...in a dev-mode kind of way
13:11 magnuse      with debugging tools etc
13:14 drojf        there are quite a fe patches markes as "needs sign off" that have some question or discussion at the end. shouldn't those get back to "in discussion" to trigger some kind of response? i would not sign off now on something that has some kind of question or objection at the end
13:14 drojf        *a few
13:14 drojf        marked. don't mind the typos, tired ;)
13:16 magnuse      drojf: yeah, if there open questions, "needs signoff" does not make sense, in my opinion
13:16 drojf        for example something like bug 12085. i don't think there is anything to sign off really at the moment. (not blaming the dev, it was just a bug i had open, there are a lot more like this)
13:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12085 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Allow staff to place multiple reserves for the same patron
13:24 drojf        i suppose people asking questions don't want to deny the "needs sign off" status as somebody else could still want to do it. and the people doing the patches don't change the status either, because somebody else could still sign off without them addressing the question. which is both understandable, but when i look around to see if i could do a signoff and the first 5 patches i look at are like this, i may have other things to do instead. i think this c
13:25 drojf        druthb!
13:25 druthb       drojf!
13:25 druthb       :)
13:25 drojf        :)
13:26 drojf        (and for cleanup, it needs some kind of rule. i don't want to be the bad guy changing your status if it is not consensus to do it in some way ;)
13:27 kivilahtio   drojf: How does this sentence end ". i think this c..." ?
13:28 kivilahtio   drojf: you can steal my patches!
13:28 drojf        i think this could use some cleanup
13:28 drojf        kivilahtio: ah that is you! :)
13:28 kivilahtio   drojf: speaking of the devil
13:29 kivilahtio   drojf: I realized that people here are so courteous that they are afraid of stepping onto someone's toes. In bugzilla you can access obsoleted/overwritten patches.
13:29 kivilahtio   so nowadays I try to add a disclaimer to my patches that they can be stolen.
13:30 kivilahtio   What I am trying to say is that even if you make changes and share them to bugzilla, the original owner can still find his submits.
13:30 kivilahtio   so no damage done
13:30 drojf        i think it's great to put them there, i just wonder about the status. there is not really something to sign off there at the moment, it's just there to be reused, right?
13:30 oleonard     I don't think that is necessary kivilahtio
13:30 kivilahtio   oleonard: ok
13:31 kivilahtio   drojf: maybe "Works for me"?
13:31 oleonard     Or maybe it's just me -- I'll submit a follow-up to a patch if I think it can be improved.
13:31 kivilahtio   there is such a status. Resolved -> Worksforme
13:31 kivilahtio   or just "new"? what is wrong with new?
13:31 oleonard     And I'll file a counter-patch if I think an entirely different approach should be taken
13:31 kivilahtio   if i have an issue, i look for a ticket, regardless of it's status
13:32 tcohen       morning kivilahtio druthb drojf cait Joubu magnuse marcelr
13:32 drojf        if you plan on rebasing it for master at some point, i would leave it open, just set it to… i don't know, in discussion or assigned probably
13:32 kivilahtio   gday tcohen
13:32 drojf        hi tcohen
13:32 druthb       morning, tcohen. :)
13:32 * tcohen     is back at the office
13:32 tcohen       it's been a while!
13:32 tcohen       (2 month)
13:33 drojf        post kohacon holiday? :)
13:35 drojf        does reducing the needs signoff queue by making people switch status to assigned count as +1 in my statistics? :D
13:35 cait         tcohen: on phone, but talk later?
13:35 tcohen       of coures
13:36 * tcohen     loves RM-QAM meeting
14:15 andreashm    hi all
14:23 * magnuse    wanders off
15:21 cait         off the phone
15:21 cait         drojf; i think new and a note that it's not ready for testing /needs more work maybe
15:21 cait         for patches that can be used as is when it's not fail? everything seems equally confusing
15:44 Joubu        @later tell rangi, the links in the "last 5 SO" area are broken (dashboard) : show_bug.cgi?id=%3C%%20entry.1%20%%3E
15:44 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:56 Joubu        tcohen: Hello! Did you have the time to have a look at bug 13610?
15:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13610 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , delete_patrons.pl crashes on debian squeeze
15:57 tcohen       Joubu: yes
15:58 * tcohen     is looking for khall's patch that fixed it
15:59 Joubu        tcohen: Last time you said me it was a dbic issue
15:59 tcohen       it is
16:00 Joubu        But we can fix it in Koha, great
16:00 tcohen       we need to revert some stuff from 11891
16:16 cait         bug 11891
16:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh
16:39 gaetan_B1    bye
17:01 fridolin1    bye
18:03 vfernandes   hi guys
18:04 vfernandes   in the last weeks i'm having a problem with one installation
18:04 drojf        oh, a new raspberry pi model to put koha on ^^
18:04 vfernandes   sometimes it's happening oom-killer
18:04 vfernandes   the server has 6GB
18:16 rangi        vfernandes: check your apache logs is it getting hit a lot, you might want to wind down max connections
18:19 vfernandes   rangi: are you talking about MaxKeepAliveRequests?
18:19 vfernandes   checking my logs there isn't many requests
18:21 vfernandes   MaxKeepAliveRequests 500
18:21 vfernandes   Timeout 300
18:21 rangi        Joubu: thanks fixed now
18:21 rangi        vfernandes: hmmm can you see what process is using all the RAM
18:21 rangi        ?
18:22 vfernandes   oom_killer this time was invoked by member.pl
18:22 vfernandes   member.pl invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_score_adj=0
18:23 vfernandes   on memory dump there is like 100 member.pl processes
18:24 pastebot     "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "memory dump" (161 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/385
18:25 rangi        yeah oom killer doesnt always(often) kill the actual thing using all the ram
18:26 rangi        but yeah thats a lot of member.pl running
18:26 rangi        id check the intranet access logs
18:26 rangi        looks like something is hammering the members page
18:26 rangi        problem is, it logs at the finish of a request
18:27 rangi        so if the server starts ooming you often dont see them all in the logs
18:27 rangi        but you might be able to notice something hitting the same url a lot
18:29 rangi        ive seen something like this happen before, caused by a couple of things 1/ someone left a book on their keyboard and it was sitting on the f5 key .. that was easy to fix .. the other time, couldnt figure out why it happened it was like the browser wigged out
18:29 rangi        i hope this is some help
18:32 vfernandes   rangi now I have new data about the problem
18:33 vfernandes   before the oom-killer the server has lost the connection to BD server
18:33 rangi        ah ha
18:33 rangi        yeah that would do it
18:34 vfernandes   i guess that after the error someone has used F5 a lot
18:34 rangi        if someone got impatient and hit refresh
18:34 rangi        yeah
18:34 rangi        that's my guess
18:35 vfernandes   right now the server is stable
18:35 jcamins      drojf: the new rPi doesn't look particularly interesting for installing Koha on.
18:35 jcamins      drojf: where is the challenge?
18:35 wahanui      the challenge is that I would like to be able to specify that there has to be an exact match, except 'u's and 'v's can be interchangeable, as can be 'i's and 'j's.
18:36 * jcamins    said that, didn't he?
18:36 vfernandes   i've added a cronjob to warn me when the memory to try to access the server earlier and prevent more oom-killers
18:36 drojf        jcamins: true :D
18:36 rangi        vfernandes: good idea
18:38 vfernandes   thanks for the help rangi
18:40 vfernandes   if the problem reappears, I will be here again  :D
18:54 reiveune     bye
18:56 cait         hi agai #koha
19:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #42 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:11 rangi        @wunder nzwn
20:11 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
20:14 magnuse      @wunder boo
20:14 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0°C (8:50 PM CET on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
20:16 Dyrcona      @wunder 01844
20:16 huginn       Dyrcona: The current temperature in Timber Lane, Methuen, Massachusetts is -12.7°C (3:16 PM EST on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1001 hPa (Falling).  Winter Storm Warning in effect until 1 am EST Tuesday... 
20:17 magnuse      ooh, you win Dyrcona
20:17 Dyrcona      Well, Sudbury has me beat temperature-wise, but we've got wind and snow.
20:17 Dyrcona      @wunder p3e 2c6
20:17 huginn       Dyrcona: The current temperature in Sudbury, Ontario is -13.2°C (3:03 PM EST on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
20:18 Dyrcona      I just came in from doing a little shoveling.
20:19 magnuse      fun
20:19 magnuse      @wunder karasjok
20:19 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -12.5°C (9:15 PM CET on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
20:19 Dyrcona      Yeah, the wind and snow picked up and I decided I'd had enough.
20:20 * Dyrcona    doesn't feel like "winning." ;)
20:21 * magnuse    has a nice fire going in the fireplace
20:55 DisneyDave   Hello all
20:55 DisneyDave   We LOVE KOHA
20:56 DisneyDave   quick question... I have had to restart MYSQL twice in two days ... is 3.18.02 causing anyone else any restarts?
20:56 magnuse      yes we do!
20:57 magnuse      not for me. what are your symptoms?
20:58 DisneyDave   I was just checking in 5 items from a patron who had 42 items out at her individual screen so I checked the 5 items for return
20:58 DisneyDave   and the checkin area spun and spun
20:58 DisneyDave   I backed out and got the MYSQL is down error.
20:59 DisneyDave   The other day I came in and it was down.  We have not had any luck upgrading from 3.18.02 to 3.18.03 yet but it sounds like we took the right steps.  Version still says 3.18.02
21:00 magnuse      is mysql completely stopped when that happens?
21:01 DisneyDave   yes
21:02 cait         DisneyDave: if the version still says 3.18.2 the update didn't run completely
21:02 DisneyDave   Thanks cait.
21:03 cait         sorry, misread i gues
21:03 DisneyDave   I will get with my tech person to try and figure out why it didnt run completely
21:03 DisneyDave   Are you having any issues with mysql stopping cait?
21:04 cait         we have a test installation running 3.18.3, but haven't seen any problems there so far
21:05 DisneyDave   Ok, thanks Manguse and Cait
21:05 eythian      hi
21:05 wahanui      bidet, eythian
21:06 cait         hi eythian
21:08 magnuse      hi eythian
21:09 eythian      cait: you want me to explain the ES stuff? If you were in a real timezone, you would have got my complaining about how it's tricky to build an authorities search query yesterday :)
21:10 cait         not in that much detail
21:10 cait         but people ask about it you know
21:10 cait         and i have no idea what to tell them - that#s annoying
21:11 cait         and my timezone is fine, i like living in the past.
21:21 eythian      cait: I'll see about making a wiki page with info
21:22 eythian      it's still a bit string-and-duct-tape to put together quickly at the moment :)
21:28 cait         aha!
21:33 cait         @wunder Konstanz
21:33 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is -0.3°C (10:33 PM CET on February 02, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
21:33 cait         ew more snow
21:34 eythian      @wunder nzwn
21:34 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
21:34 eythian      no snow
21:34 eythian      though, gale force winds, but that's nothing new
21:35 wizzyrea     I miss the wind when it's not there. I prefer it really.
21:35 wizzyrea     it's too hot when the wind goes.
21:35 eythian      look at the person who doesn't have a bike :)
21:35 wizzyrea     NZ sun is crazy hot.
21:35 wizzyrea     without a breeze it's the most sweltering 23C you'll ever experience
21:35 wizzyrea     I do feel for the cyclists.
21:36 wizzyrea     :)
21:57 mtj          wiz,i've really grown to like the wind around wgtn too
21:57 cait         :)
21:58 mtj          great for kite flying
21:59 mtj          off-topic... anyone recommend any android fones?
21:59 mtj          what are people using these days?
22:00 cait         my phone is a dinosaur... so can't really help :)
22:01 mtj          ha, all good cait
22:02 mtj          im guessing the catalyst folk have some hot tips
22:03 rangi        @later tell joubu ive removed the balance column
22:03 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
22:06 rangi        @later tell joubu also it is not looking at bugzilla at all, this is purely from git, so it counts all sign offs, including qa and release manager etc
22:06 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
22:07 rangi        @later tell joubu also means it cant know if it is a bug or an enhancement, its purely the number of patches authored, grouped by organisation, and the number of sign offs by organisation
22:07 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
22:14 * dcook      waves
22:14 rangi        hi dcook
22:14 dcook        hey rangi
22:15 dcook        mtj: I bought a S3 online just as the S4 was coming out. Good price and it's been a good phone.
22:15 dcook        Really though... I'd probably just look at the specs and see what you like
22:15 dcook        Regarding size, speed, etc.
22:16 * dcook      is tempted to use Cyanogenmod over Android actually
22:19 eythian      cyanogenmod ⊂ android
22:19 wizzyrea     also cyanogen is now in league with microsoft?
22:20 cait         hm stuck on my facets problem
22:20 cait         i hae checked that dom is activated in koha-conf... the facet entries are there
22:20 cait         also the facet configuration in the dom xsl
22:21 cait         nothing on the about page
22:22 cait         problem: my facets are not showing up, like the problem described on the mailing list today
22:23 cait         nothing in the logs either
22:23 rangi        what happens if you turn zebra facets off
22:23 cait         just switch the koha-conf entry?
22:23 cait         i will try sec
22:24 dcook        eythian: ⊂?
22:24 cait         restarted the zebrasrv too
22:24 cait         oooh
22:24 cait         facets are back
22:24 eythian      dcook: subset of
22:24 dcook        wizzyrea: Apparently microsoft is investing in it
22:25 eythian      dcook: you never studied...
22:25 wizzyrea     http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/
22:25 dcook        eythian: Never studied...?
22:25 dcook        eythian: A quick google showed me the opposite for superset. I guess I should have inferred the answer :p
22:25 eythian      to recognise a subset when you see one :)
22:25 dcook        wizzyrea: Yeah that's the one I read too
22:25 cait         rangi: ok, so the zebra facets are not working.. i had the idea maybe they were not being indexed correctly = not showing up, nothing in the facet index
22:25 cait         but i am not sure how to confirm that
22:26 dcook        cait: you could try using yaz-client to find out
22:26 cait         could you guide me how to?
22:26 dcook        yep
22:27 dcook        Let's see if I have a good setup so that I can do it at the same time..
22:27 dcook        cait: have you used yaz-client before?
22:28 cait         once or twice but ages ago
22:30 dcook        cait: So go to koha-conf.xml
22:30 dcook        And copy the contents of <listen id="biblioserver"></listen>
22:31 dcook        Mine is "unix:/home/dcook/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb/bibliosocket"
22:31 cait         ok
22:31 dcook        Then type into the command line "yaz-client unix:/home/dcook/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb/bibliosocket"
22:31 dcook        but with your own socket address
22:32 dcook        Just give me a sec to setup my zebra conf..
22:32 cait         should i turn facets back on before that?
22:32 dcook        Nah, it shouldn't matter.
22:32 dcook        Because we'll be doing the facet queries directly
22:34 cait         ok
22:34 dcook        Ok, now let's see...
22:35 dcook        type in "base biblios"
22:35 dcook        then... "elements zebra::facet::any:w,title:w,title:0"
22:35 eythian      hmph, the dev meeting is on a public holiday.
22:35 cait         oh arg
22:35 cait         h
22:36 cait         thursday?
22:36 eythian      cait: friday the 6th
22:37 cait         dcook: nothing happened
22:37 dcook        Ah, my bad. It might be a configuration thing
22:37 dcook        Try..
22:37 dcook        "elements zebra::facet::any:w"
22:38 dcook        "format xml"
22:38 dcook        then "find test"
22:38 dcook        then "show"
22:38 dcook        That should show you the zebra facets for your search
22:38 dcook        (sort of)
22:38 cait         ineresting
22:38 cait         pasting sec
22:39 cait         http://paste.koha-community.org/387
22:39 dcook        If that's the case, then I wonder a bit about your configuration..
22:39 dcook        Could you do "list_all" and paste the output of that?
22:40 dcook        More importantly actually...
22:40 dcook        You you paste the contents of...
22:41 dcook        /koha-dev/etc/zebradb/retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml
22:41 dcook        Because "elements zebra::facet::any:w" should work, if retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml is setup correctly
22:41 cait         i am on it
22:41 dcook        :)
22:42 cait         http://paste.koha-community.org/388
22:43 dcook        Hmm, that's surprising..
22:44 cait         hm?
22:45 dcook        cait: I'm surprised that you got that error message, as your conf looks OK
22:45 cait         werid indeed then
22:45 cait         and confusing
22:46 dcook        You restarted zebrasrv as well... so that's ok...
22:48 cait         could it be a wrong path or something
22:48 cait         =
22:48 cait         pointing to another file?
22:48 dcook        I'm wondering a bit about that
22:48 dcook        Hmm, I just tried mangling my conf, and got a different error
22:48 dcook        "[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo 'zebra::facet::title:w'"
22:49 dcook        Interestingly enough... I don't actually even seem to need "<retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*"/>" in my conf..
22:51 dcook        I know I've got that same error message you've gotten before though...
22:51 mtj          dcook: thanks for the facet info.. very handy :0)
22:52 dcook        mtj: a lot of it is in bug 11232 :)
22:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Retrieve facets from Zebra
22:52 dcook        But it's a massive bug so a bit tough to root through... so you're welcome!
22:52 dcook        cait: what happens if we try something else?
22:53 dcook        like "elements"
22:53 dcook        Are you able to retrieve records?
22:53 cait         sec
22:53 cait         nothin
22:53 cait         f
22:53 dcook        I thought that might be the case
22:53 dcook        Maybe try reindexing your db
22:53 cait         i did :(
22:53 cait         with -r
22:53 dcook        and it worked?
22:53 cait         yeah
22:54 dcook        So when you say nothing... what do you see?
22:54 dcook        you might need to try "find test" again
22:54 dcook        as "show" cycles through the records
22:54 dcook        and will give you an error once you hit the end
22:54 cait         cs_put: System (lower-layer) error: Broken pipe
22:54 dcook        Oh my
22:54 * dcook      tries to recall if he's ever seen that one
22:55 dcook        Maybe let's try existing yaz-client and starting over again
22:55 dcook        So type "quit"
22:55 cait         just a new line in the z command
22:55 dcook        Ctrl + C
22:55 cait         restart?
22:55 dcook        Sounds like yaz-client isn't having a good time
22:56 dcook        Just try to exit out of the yaz-client Z> commmand
22:56 cait         i did
22:56 dcook        Perfect. Then yeah, try "yaz-client unix:..." again
22:56 rangi        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ls5j5iz2eA
22:57 dcook        hehe
22:57 cait         dcook: which commands?
22:57 dcook        cait: where are you now?
22:58 cait         i did base biblios
22:58 cait         find test
22:58 cait         show
22:58 cait         and it shows results
22:58 dcook        Cool
22:58 dcook        So let's just try "format xml"
22:58 dcook        and "show 1"
22:58 cait         marcxml
22:59 dcook        Hmm, same, which is actually not what I expected originally
22:59 dcook        Try... "elements index"
22:59 dcook        then "show 1" again
23:00 cait         i see the indexes
23:00 cait         butnothing about facets
23:01 dcook        Yep, that's all right
23:01 dcook        There shouldn't be anything about facets yet
23:01 cait         ok
23:01 dcook        Now try "elements zebra::facet::title:w"
23:01 dcook        then "show 1"
23:02 cait         Diagnostic message(s) from database:
23:02 cait         [25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo ''
23:02 cait         nextResultSetPosition = 2
23:02 cait         Elapsed: 0.000711
23:02 dcook        That's so bizarre..
23:02 cait         yeah :(
23:03 dcook        I'm sure I've seen that before, but not in a long time
23:03 dcook        I do have a few different config options though so I'm going to try changing them and trying again
23:04 dcook        Nope, that's not it
23:05 dcook        It looks like you're not using the retrievalinfo fallback in koha-conf.xml, or else "elements index" wouldn't have worked
23:05 dcook        You're certain that the retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml file is the one pointed to in your koha-conf.xml?
23:06 cait         i will check
23:06 dcook        Oh, I think I might have an idea..
23:07 dcook        Are you using ICU?
23:08 wizzyrea     I think the person on the list mentioned ICU.
23:08 cait         hm not sure
23:08 cait         let's verify
23:08 dcook        Yeah, I'm looking at an old list entry
23:08 wizzyrea     either way, somehow these two problems are bouncing around in my consciousness together.
23:08 dcook        Apparently I got "[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo ''" once upon a time... although it looks like it was for both ICU and non-ICU
23:08 dcook        But it was when I used "index:0"
23:09 dcook        That's why I specifically wanted to try "index:w" instead..
23:09 cait         hm
23:09 cait         looking into my xsl file
23:10 dcook        Apparently the error went away once I was indexing ":0" in my xsl..
23:10 cait         <z:index name="su-to:0">
23:10 cait         <xslo:value-of select="marc:subfield[@code='a']"/>
23:10 cait         </z:index>
23:12 cait         dcook: did you see the mailing list mail with the same problem?
23:12 dcook        I don't think so?
23:12 dcook        When was it?
23:12 * dcook      doesn't read the mailing list most of the time
23:12 cait         today
23:12 dcook        General or devel?
23:13 cait         koha main list
23:13 cait         from cindy murdock ames
23:13 dcook        Fwd:  Facets missing on fresh dev install of 3.18.3
23:13 dcook        Ah, k
23:13 dcook        I'll look
23:13 eythian      dcook: what do you do for your daily dose of entertainment/dispair if you don't read the list?
23:14 dcook        dcook: Facebook
23:14 wahanui      rumour has it Facebook is *not* a universal authenticator
23:14 dcook        Wow, I just addressed myself
23:14 dcook        I think that really says it all, in a way
23:14 dcook        eythian: ^
23:14 eythian      haha
23:14 dcook        cait: Interesting. Certainly interesting.
23:15 cait         and i am seeing it 2... which ... makes it look like something weird is going on
23:15 dcook        Oooh, I just managed to get the same error when I tried..
23:15 dcook        zebra::facet::*
23:15 dcook        Another thought... what version of Zebra are you using, cait?
23:15 cait         oh good call
23:15 cait         how to check most easily
23:16 dcook        Good question
23:16 dcook        Actually, another question would be YAZ versions
23:16 cait         i tried zebrasrv -v
23:16 dcook        "yaz-client -V"
23:16 dcook        will tell you about yaz
23:16 cait         2.0.59
23:17 dcook        zebraidx -V
23:17 wizzyrea     sudo apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 also works
23:17 wizzyrea     if you installed zebra with a package.
23:17 dcook        wizzyrea: If you're on a Debian based system :p
23:17 dcook        yeah
23:17 cait         seems all give the same
23:17 cait         2.0.59
23:17 dcook        Hmm, I'm using 2.0.47... don't know if that really makes a difference
23:17 dcook        I would think newer would be better
23:17 * wizzyrea   is using 2.0.44
23:18 dcook        If you hadn't shown me the "list_all" I'd feel like the elements weren't set right, but it looked ok
23:19 dcook        cait: I'm getting that same error message when I type in a bad index name..
23:19 dcook        I wonder..
23:19 dcook        cait: try "zebra::facet::Title:w"
23:19 dcook        I swear that I encountered a case sensitivity thing once
23:20 dcook        It later seemed that I was crazy, but it's worth a show perhaps
23:20 cait         hm
23:20 dcook        It's probably crazy, but..
23:20 cait         unknwn command?
23:20 dcook        Ah, sorry
23:20 dcook        "elements zebra::facet::Title:w"
23:20 cait         just a new line
23:20 cait         no feedback
23:20 dcook        Maybe you timed out... try exiting and entering yaz-client again
23:21 dcook        Your yaz-client/zebra seems a bit tempermental
23:21 dcook        Which is odd as mine is usually pretty rock solid..
23:22 dcook        I have one or two more ideas in any case :)
23:22 cait         nothing just a new line
23:22 cait         did the base biblios
23:22 dcook        So you did "base biblios" then "elements zebra::facet::Title:w" ?
23:22 cait         and then the elemnts
23:22 cait         did i miss a step?
23:23 dcook        "format xml"
23:23 dcook        but I'm surprised it just gave a new line
23:23 dcook        It should've spat out an error message
23:23 cait         nothing
23:23 cait         quiet
23:24 dcook        You did "find test"
23:24 dcook        and "show 1"?
23:24 cait         always the same error :(
23:24 dcook        That's ok
23:24 dcook        try "elements index" again
23:24 dcook        I want to see some of the output of that..
23:25 cait         hm
23:25 cait         what exactly
23:25 cait         ?
23:25 dcook        Mmm
23:25 dcook        Maybe the top bit of output?
23:25 dcook        Like...
23:25 * dcook      will give an example
23:26 pastebot     "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example of "elements index"" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/390
23:27 dcook        I suppose if I were smart, I would've actually upgraded my dev system to master
23:27 dcook        This is... either 3.14.5 or 3.17
23:27 cait         http://paste.koha-community.org/391
23:27 dcook        Cool
23:27 dcook        So let's try "elements zebra::facet::Control-number:w"
23:27 dcook        As we know there is definitely something there
23:28 dcook        Or maybe... "elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w"
23:28 cait         maybe i am doing it wrong
23:28 dcook        Since I don't have Control-number
23:28 cait         do i type this just after the last output?
23:28 cait         or do i need to do something in between?
23:28 dcook        You can just enter "elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w"
23:28 dcook        It should be fine
23:29 cait         nothing...
23:29 wahanui      hmmm... nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
23:29 dcook        Same error message then?
23:29 cait         nope
23:29 cait         just a new line
23:29 cait         on sending it
23:29 dcook        Can you paste that output?
23:29 dcook        Sorry, I keep making assumptions
23:29 cait         nextResultSetPosition = 2
23:29 cait         Elapsed: 0.040626
23:29 cait         Z> elements zebra::facet::Control-number:w
23:29 cait         Z> elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w
23:29 cait         Z>
23:29 dcook        After "elements zebra::facet::Bib-level:w"
23:29 dcook        You should put:
23:30 dcook        "find test"
23:30 dcook        "show 1"
23:30 dcook        Sorry, I'm giving bad instructions :p
23:30 cait         it's ok
23:30 cait         now we are back to the same error
23:30 dcook        Very very interesting
23:30 cait         getting late here so I am probably not perfect following instructions either
23:30 cait         [25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo ''
23:31 dcook        Hmm... I notice something weird with your last pasted output..
23:32 dcook        If you look at mine, you see this z:id="516"
23:32 dcook        But on yours...
23:32 cait         hm
23:32 cait         what about the element set name
23:32 cait         can we check this?
23:32 dcook        It looks like an entire record... instead of just the bib number..
23:33 cait         dcook: i agree
23:33 cait         it is the entire record
23:33 dcook        Well, the element set name should be defined in "retrieval-info-bib-dom.xml"
23:33 dcook        I don't think there is a way to check available element set names from yaz :S
23:33 dcook        Which seems silly to me personally
23:33 dcook        cait: Yeah, I wonder why that is..
23:34 dcook        When you index Zebra, do you use the -x flag?
23:34 cait         hm not always
23:34 cait         we can try that
23:34 dcook        It might be worthwhile to try it
23:35 cait         hm did
23:36 dcook        And still no luck?
23:38 cait         bad news
23:38 wahanui      bad news is that you're probably royally screwed
23:38 cait         now my serach is broken
23:38 dcook        :S
23:38 dcook        Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
23:39 cait         yeah def
23:39 cait         all i changed is facets to 1
23:39 cait         nothing in the logs
23:39 cait         restarted zebra
23:40 cait         no errors on indexing
23:40 cait         i have no clue
23:40 dcook        Hmm, well, I've thought more about the element set name in any case
23:40 dcook        But that's probably not it, I have a feeling it's something with your whole... setup?
23:41 dcook        So search is broken in koha?
23:41 dcook        What happens if you try it in yaz-client now?
23:41 cait         yeah but it worked before
23:44 dcook        cait: Are you able to get results back in yaz-client?
23:44 dcook        just using "format xml" and "elements"
23:44 dcook        and - of course - "find test" and "show 1"
23:45 cait         yes
23:48 cait         works
23:48 dcook        Hmm, so something is up with Koha
23:48 dcook        :S
23:49 dcook        Mind you, that z:id thing still bothers me..
23:49 cait         yeahme too
23:50 dcook        Oh... it looks like we're creating that..
23:50 dcook        Using "biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl"
23:51 dcook        <xslo:variable name="idfield" select="normalize-space(marc:datafield[@tag='999']/marc:subfield[@code='c'])"/>
23:51 dcook        At least that's the version I have
23:51 dcook        And that's what I'm getting in my z:id..
23:52 dcook        Not sure what's happening with your records, cait :S
23:53 cait         <xslo:attribute name="z:id">
23:53 cait         <xslo:value-of select="$idfield"/>
23:53 cait         </xslo:attribute>
23:53 cait         ?
23:53 dcook        Yeah
23:53 cait         <xslo:variable name="idfield" select="normalize-space()"/>
23:53 cait         there
23:53 dcook        O_o
23:53 cait         let me try yours
23:53 dcook        Interesting
23:53 wahanui      Interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad
23:54 dcook        k
23:54 dcook        I'll also look at the git..
23:54 dcook        Yeah, mine is the same as the git
23:55 dcook        (at least in that spot)
23:55 cait         gah no change
23:55 cait         hm
23:55 cait         maybe
23:55 cait         my files are not up to date?
23:55 dcook        That's what I'm wondering
23:55 wahanui      wondering is anyone has any good z39.5 libraries that have already cataloged Scholastic books. Having a hard time finding any of the scholastic books for the school that I work at.
23:56 dcook        Of course,  "biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl" is created by..
23:56 dcook        koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl
23:56 wahanui      koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl is still used.
23:56 dcook        <xslo:variable name="idfield">
23:56 dcook        55                     <xsl:attribute name="select">normalize-space(<xsl:value-of select="//kohaidx:id"/>)</xsl:attribute>
23:56 dcook        56                 </xslo:variable>
23:57 cait         hm what are you saying?
23:57 dcook        Well, maybe your files are up-to-date is what I'm thinking
23:57 dcook        I don't even see a //kohaidx:id in "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" in the git
23:57 dcook        Give me just a few secs
23:58 cait         i think it's even more broke n than before
23:58 cait         ok
23:58 dcook        Ah, I see it now
23:58 dcook        Not the overall thing
23:58 dcook        But kohaidx:id
23:59 dcook        Can you paste in the top of "etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml"?
23:59 dcook        There should be a line "<id>marc:datafield[@tag='999']/marc:subfield[@code='c']</id>" near the top