Time  Nick        Message
23:59 dcook       "
23:59 dcook       someone somewhere likes that idea.
23:59 dcook       'format=usmarc' if you want to use that as your formatting method. I'm sure
23:59 dcook       "We could even add support for
23:59 dcook       hehe
23:37 dcook       tcohen: Does it need to go through sign off and QA once again?
23:37 dcook       Cool. tcohen you should have an updated patch in a moment :)
23:32 dcook       Or that empty parameters don't break it..
23:31 dcook       I'll still add a test just to show that you don't have to add parameters..
23:28 dcook       Mmm, I think I've got it.
23:26 pianohacker yeah, seems easiest
23:25 dcook       I suppose the thing to do is make sure that I have a hashref before trying to dereference
23:25 dcook       So if I try to dereference something that isn't a hashref, it'll warn
23:25 dcook       But XML::LibXSLT only takes a hash
23:24 dcook       Well, I'm adding that $parameters hashref to XSLT_Handler
23:24 tcohen      dcook: can u elaborate on the use case?
23:23 dcook       Maybe I'm just trying to test too much?
23:23 pianohacker ah, kk
23:22 dcook       The pass()/fail() I mean, pianohacker
23:22 pianohacker dcook: really? I'm not much of a perl expert, but I thought that was the best we had for catching exceptions (outside of CPAN)
23:20 dcook       Hmm, that doesn't seem recommended though
23:20 dcook       Depending on the result of the eval/$@
23:20 dcook       I'm thinking of using Test::More's pass() and fail()
23:19 dcook       Rather, I want to make sure warning X isn't happening
23:19 dcook       I'm not sure that's quite what I want
23:19 dcook       Hmm
23:18 tcohen      use Test::Warn
23:18 dcook       tcohen: Any tips for catching errors in unit tests?
23:09 tcohen      pianohacker: awesome
23:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Angular-based circulation client
23:08 pianohacker bug 13630
23:08 pianohacker tcohen: I'm working on a patch series for 13630
23:06 schnydszch  Anybody from biblibre here? Coz I have a question :)
23:05 schnydszch  mtj I'm using ssd servers in prod and testing. Because that's what is stated by my service providers
23:05 tcohen      new style :-D
22:58 dcook       tcohen: I'll follow the precedent and just make my change to the hashref style. Sound good?
22:58 dcook       tcohen: Yeah, I know. It's pretty new code anyway though :p
22:56 mtj         pianohacker:  aah yes... 'bored math nerds' explains it well :)
22:54 tcohen      not everyone has the time, when they are fixing something
22:53 tcohen      dcook: changing the API of a function can lead to lot of work on the rest of the code
22:53 pianohacker as far as I can tell, the answer to that for some of these is "because a mathemetician got bored". XKCD got me into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peirce_quincuncial_projection , for instance. I _finally_ coded up an implementation a couple weeks ago, there's some difficult numerical code I had to steal/port :P
22:52 mtj         i cant see the point in some
22:51 mtj         im curious about the reasoning for various layouts
22:51 pianohacker pretty
22:50 mtj         its impressive stuff
22:49 mtj         hiya, another good one ^
22:49 mtj         http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/3711652
22:49 dcook       So the old style doesn't include the latest change to the parameters available to the function either...
22:48 dcook       wth...
22:48 eythian     need a mercator centred around the south pole really
22:46 pianohacker dcook: check out guyou :)
22:45 dcook       You know you're from the country when you spend your spare time staring at maps instead of... well... doing anything else
22:44 dcook       ... and it was the only map I had :p
22:44 dcook       Mostly because it looked nicest hung up on my wall
22:44 dcook       I always enjoyed a good Mercator
22:44 dcook       That's pretty neat, pianohacker
22:42 pianohacker massive map nerdery: http://www.jasondavies.com/maps/transition/
22:41 dcook       I've seen it in patches before, but I think this is the first time in a pushed patch..
22:41 dcook       I suspect someone didn't want to bother refactoring the old code
22:41 dcook       That's a good question
22:40 eythian     why is the old style still an option?
22:40 * dcook     is tempted just to use the hashref
22:40 dcook       Or also add a parameter to the list in the old style...
22:40 dcook       Pass the argument just in the hashref according to the new style
22:40 dcook       And now I'm also a bit confused about how to proceed...
22:38 eythian     that's always annoying
22:36 dcook       Got to love the moment when someone updates a function to a better style... but before your patch is pushed : p
22:09 dcook       Good to see you around, gmcharlt ^_^
22:09 dcook       Caring is sharing :)
22:09 dcook       hehe
22:09 gmcharlt    (... the pain)
22:09 gmcharlt    dcook: I like to view it as sharing...
22:09 dcook       <gmcharlt> David_H: if you have a cat handy, you could always use it to randomize the keyboard input
22:08 dcook       magnuse and gmcharlt are sadistic
22:08 dcook       hehe
21:49 wizzyrea    did it maybe hold back your package and not install it?
21:37 wahanui     hola, eythian
21:37 eythian     hi
21:12 David_H     We thought so to.  Checked the Koha Admin About and it still had the old one
21:12 cait        maybe the update didn't happen yet?
21:12 cait        David_H: hm it should show the new version
21:10 David_H     Hey Nicole, come visit!
21:07 David_H     Interesting: when we launch Koha it still shows the version as 3.18.02
21:06 David_H     Sorry, yes...stepped away.  Quick [additional] question - how do we backup our database prior to doing future upgrades (just in case)?
21:03 * magnuse   wanders off
20:57 * cait      waves
20:54 magnuse     disney?
20:52 nengard     excited to see you here :)
20:52 nengard     Hi David_H
20:51 magnuse     maybe rangi should add it to the notes for 3.18.4?
20:50 magnuse     ooh, that is some good advice
20:49 gmcharlt    that is, if you want the upgrade to be slightly more difficulty ;)
20:49 gmcharlt    David_H: if you have a cat handy, you could always use it to randomize the keyboard input
20:48 wizzyrea    but other than that.
20:48 wizzyrea    you might need to do an apt-get update to let apt know there's a new version
20:48 David_H     thanks!
20:47 wizzyrea    it's really that simple.
20:47 David_H     excellent.  I just recall us having significant issues on the last upgrade and I thought there was more to it
20:46 magnuse     it really is that simple :-)
20:46 magnuse     but that will of course upgrade other stuff too
20:46 magnuse     or "sudo apt-get upgrade"
20:46 magnuse     David_H: nope, ""sudo apt-get install koha-common" should be all you need
20:45 David_H     Greetings!  Working through the upgrade of Koha on our Ubuntu server from 3.18.02 to 3.18.03.  The instructions seemed pretty simple: just run "sudo apt-get install koha-common".  Is there another step to the process?  Do we need to stop/restart the MySQl database?  Should we have stopped it first?
20:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13544 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , admin/auth_subfields_structure.pl does not compile in older perls
20:15 magnuse     bug 13544
20:14 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
20:14 cait        @later tell ashimema could you take a look at bug 13544? Joubu and me are out
20:12 * magnuse   is not too worried
20:08 wizzyrea    yeah I think the translation fixes got lost along the way, eythian thought they were fixed when I saw them too.
20:07 cait        hm at least I think we didn't
20:07 cait        haven't seen those
20:06 cait        HM
20:03 magnuse     i get that for each language installed
20:00 magnuse     not sure if that ^ is to be expected
20:00 pastebot    "magnuse" at pasted "errors related to old themes, from running apt-get upgrade" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/379
19:58 * magnuse   looks forward to meeting lots of cool people in marseille
19:57 magnuse     will do!
19:57 cait        magnuse: tell me how it went, we will soon too :)
19:57 mtj         lol
19:55 magnuse     ;-)
19:55 * magnuse   will blame tcohen if things go belly up
19:54 tcohen      magnuse: yay!
19:53 * magnuse   upgrades customers to 3.18.3
19:49 JesseM      until we all dig in!  :P
19:48 mtj         cheese is great to photograph :p
19:47 JesseM      oh yeah
19:47 mtj         hey JesseM, keep the camera ready for some cheeses, yeah
19:47 JesseM      :D
19:46 mtj         sounds pretty exciting stuff
19:46 magnuse     come for the cheese, stay for the hacking
19:46 magnuse     yeah, the cheese is the main thing ;-)
19:46 magnuse     lol
19:45 wahanui     cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter.
19:45 JesseM      cheese!!
19:45 JesseM      few more weeks
19:45 JesseM      hiya magnuse :)
19:44 * magnuse   waves to JesseM in french
19:44 * mtj       hasnt got round to it yet
19:44 mtj         i was curious about the speed difference for reaaaaally slow imports, on a mysql/ramdisk setup
19:43 mtj         ..i was planning on running a test mysql db, on a huge ramfs 'disk' with it
19:42 * magnuse   waves
19:42 mtj         i recently bought a big/old HP server, with 64g of RAM
19:40 mtj         i have both, fwiw
19:40 mtj         well, have both types of drives, really
19:40 cbrannon    I haven't tried a hybrid myself.
19:39 mtj         pure
19:39 mtj         but for me, i take the faster/smaller prue ssd
19:39 mtj         yes, for sure :)
19:38 cbrannon    mtj: what about a hybrid?
19:37 mtj         i vaguely recall a bunch of articles some years ago, saying ... "dont run DBs on ssd drives, you will break the SSD!"
19:35 mtj         i'm quite curious about the results of that ^
19:33 mtj         would be a pretty easy thing to test :)
19:32 mtj         data/bib clenaup stuff, or marc imports, etc..
19:32 mtj         hmm, i wonder what the SSD speedup for long/slow mysql stuff is
19:31 mtj         the thing i wanna see is how much faster mysql stuff is, on a ssd
19:30 tcohen      before that it got stuck on some weird grub error message
19:30 tcohen      but, typing "live"+<enter> did the trick
19:30 tcohen      on recent hw, i found that it was troublesome to boot ubuntu from sticks
19:29 mtj         it made an amazing difference on my old/slowish lappy
19:29 * cait      is going to do the dishes now :)
19:29 cait        yeah but not tonight :)
19:29 tcohen      cait: let's give it another try
19:29 mtj         ah, bummer cait :/
19:29 cait        have to try again with a usb stick to boot from sometime
19:29 cait        well maybe it's not even the ssd, but the cd drive... because i failed getting ubuntu on it
19:28 mtj         ..but ive only just added one to my dev 'server' thingy
19:28 cait        i tried to replace the one in my laptop with ssd... but the one i have gave me lots of trouble lst time i tried
19:28 mtj         ive had one in my lappy for ... 1.5 years? - its been great
19:28 tcohen      (dev)
19:27 tcohen      +1
19:27 cait        not currently
19:27 mtj         random Q... how many people on #koha are using SSD drives for dev and/or prod systems?
19:23 mtj         i'm all good, thanks
19:22 mtj         nope :)
19:22 tcohen      np, do u need something right now?
19:22 mtj         i missed your PM msg a few days ago..
19:22 mtj         heya tcohen,  thanks for the jenkins help
19:20 tcohen      hi mtj
19:18 mtj         who can tickle jenkins_bot peeps
19:16 cait        hi mtj :)
19:16 mtj         hiya cait
19:05 * cait      waves
18:42 oleonard    To my understanding, if the timestamp column is of timestamp type it is automatically updated on creation or edit
18:41 cbrannon    I just wasn't sure if the timestamp is something copied with the record to this table when the item is deleted.
18:40 cbrannon    Thanks oleonard.  Trying to incorporate some stats from that table.  Proving to be challenging considering when items are deleted.  Hopefully this will be more accurate when I am done.
18:38 oleonard    cbrannon: I would say the answer is "probably," since it's not likely that the record was modified by any other means
18:35 cbrannon    Can anyone tell me, when I look at the timestamp of an item in the deleteditems table, does that timestamp reflect when that item was deleted?
18:31 schnydszch  Oleonard, just testing messaging, it's for jajm ;)
18:30 oleonard    schnydszch: Is the person you're trying to talk to here?
18:02 schnydszch  Hi Julian! I'm trying out again the koha connector in drupal. I've already set up the content type to publish automatically however everytime i do the drush harvest the contents does not publish. I'm using the latest opac and koha connector modules. Thanks in advance and cheers! :)
17:48 huginn      nengard: The operation succeeded.
17:48 nengard     @later tell bgkriegel when you're back from vaca ping me about the manual, i'm wondering how often the html is generated and where the PDF links are - http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/ is generated nightly just fyi
17:47 tcohen      you'll need to wait for bgkriegel to be back from vacation
17:47 nengard     http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/ is generated nightly
17:47 nengard     and how often is the HTML generated?
17:47 nengard     what happened to the PDF though?
17:47 nengard     and as for the manual - WOW - it's gorgeous
17:46 nengard     oh! thanks - now I see it
17:46 tcohen      i'm sorry, the introduced syspref was FacetMaxCount
17:45 tcohen      http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/
17:45 tcohen      also, es.koha-community.org is being moved, and the manual has been moved to the translate site
17:45 nengard     yeah?
17:45 tcohen      nengard: maxRecordsForFacets
17:32 nengard     I know it's been down for a while ...
17:32 nengard     anyone know what's up with http://es.koha-community.org/manual/  ?
16:54 reiveune    bye
16:42 nengard     I'm reading through the releaes notes to make sure the manual is up to date
16:42 nengard     what happened to it?
16:42 nengard     says there is a new pref in Koha - but I don't see it in my install of Koha
16:42 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Allow the user to specify a max amount of facets to show.
16:41 nengard     bug 13088
16:13 ashimema    which I really don't like the idea of running into
16:13 ashimema    I should get back to me transactions route... though I have a horrible feeling I'm quickly going to run into the territory of overlapping with the account re-write..
16:12 ashimema    anywho..
16:12 ashimema    just the versioning will be /svc = v0 and /api = v1 ;)
16:12 ashimema    i effect we're versioning lareday by making a breaking change with the move from svc whatevr goes to a restfull /api space ;)
16:11 ashimema    I'm sold
16:11 ashimema    added versioning to the wiki RFC ;)
16:10 ashimema    version via url or header though..
16:09 ashimema    just reading up on versioning
16:09 ashimema    ok.. perhaps I'm happy to version..
16:09 Joubu       that's why we decided not to submit koha-restful into the Koha codebase
16:08 tcohen      but think of people from other projects
16:08 tcohen      for ourselves, it makes sense to just stick to /svc or /api
16:07 ashimema    versioning does have it's upsides
16:07 ashimema    hmm.. though I know what you mean..
16:07 ashimema    I'd almost prefer we version on a route by route basis.. save needing to ad /v1/route /v2/route's all over the urls
16:06 tcohen      but I think no harm keeping as an option from the beggining
16:05 tcohen      we might as well choose not to support them
16:05 tcohen      once we have a mature API, and people want it to evolve
16:05 ashimema    thereby allowing the api to be continually enhanced but remain backward compatible as such without restricting us to versions
16:05 tcohen      I think versioning is important for a second stage
16:05 Dyrcona     s/show/snow/
16:05 ashimema    I've rather see a sensible set of guidelines/rule drawn up for what goes into our new namespace and see that things going in there remain strictly within though guidelines..
16:04 ashimema    yeah.. cait
16:04 cait        Dyrcona: ?
16:03 ashimema    my question regarding versioning is at what point is a version 'done'
16:03 cait        it would make future changes easier... but might lead to have lots of copied code?
16:03 Dyrcona     Whee! Sixty-six centimeters of show and it isn't finished, yet.
16:03 ashimema    I'm less enamoured by versioning
16:03 ashimema    I agree with the new namespace..
16:01 tcohen      i would only add that I'd rather choose a new namespace (/api) and that it should be versioned
16:00 ashimema    woudl be interested in your thoughts too ;)
16:00 ashimema    that was the result of our initla thoughts tcohen
16:00 ashimema    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/New_REST_API_RFC
15:59 ashimema    We suggested perhaps we have a bug that shift all /svc into /svc_old or somthing to try and get people to realise there 'is a new way' with the new api's I hope to promote
15:59 wahanui     thanks cait :)
15:59 cait        wahanui botsnack cookie
15:59 cait        not sure
15:59 wahanui     accounting is important.
15:59 cait        accounting?
15:58 ashimema    yeah.. cait that was my one dislike regarding transaction.. needs a more descriptive route
15:58 tcohen      i wasn't
15:58 ashimema    we actually discussed this the other day tcohen.. not sure you were there..
15:58 ashimema    and yes it's also being done in a new namespace
15:58 tcohen      first kick
15:57 tcohen      let's give /api the
15:57 ashimema    Oh.. it's certainly OO and RESTful..
15:57 tcohen      :-P
15:57 ashimema    my guts sort of telling me the former.. leads to more DRY code I hope
15:57 tcohen      ashimema: think REST, OO, and do it on /api/v1/
15:57 cait        not strictly thinking about money then
15:57 cait        i think transaction might be a bit too global perhaps?
15:57 cait        hm no strong preference
15:57 ashimema    or two routes.. say /svc/payment  and /svc/invoice
15:56 ashimema    should I create one route /svc/transaction for example that handles both invoices(debits) and payments(credits)
15:55 ashimema    for monetary transactions..
15:55 ashimema    api advice ..
15:53 cait        nengard++
15:44 nengard     I mean ... it's never "done" but I think it has all the new stuff in it
15:44 nengard     holy cow - i think i'm done with the 3.18 manual
15:03 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search
15:03 Joubu       magnuse: I have just submited a followup for 3.16.x on bug 13458
14:44 Joubu       yep
14:42 nengard     allowing the librarian to check out the item even if the patron is restricted?
14:42 nengard     so it's kind of like an override?
14:42 Joubu       nengard: the librarian will be able to force the on site checkout even if the patron is restricted, or have a limitation (number of checkout, etc.)
14:42 nengard     if I have onsite enabled and force disabled it kind of makes no sense ...
14:41 nengard     what's the point of this one?
14:41 nengard     OnSiteCheckoutsForce
14:41 nengard     Joubu one question
14:40 cait        right now the due date is always set to the end of the day
14:40 cait        but not sure when :(
14:40 cait        i might try and work out how to have the library set the due dates manually if they want to
14:40 nengard     which means a bunch of help file patches coming soon
14:39 nengard     working it in to the manual now and then I might be done for 3.18!!!
14:39 Joubu       nengard: yep, that's it :)
14:39 nengard     so you can track who has them
14:39 nengard     i think so - it's used to checkout items that don't leave the library
14:39 cait        heh
14:39 Joubu       nengard: did you get a correct answer about your on site checkout question?
14:38 * magnuse   is faced with translations again and seriously considers moving to an english speaking country
14:37 ashimema    cheer joubu
14:37 cait        and missed that the question was from nengard - should read all the way back up first :)
14:37 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , UT: The unit tests cannot be launched by everyone
14:37 Joubu       ashimema: bug 10337 :)
14:36 cait        and instead of checked out it says 'in local use' in opac and staff
14:36 ashimema    thaks for the clarification cait
14:36 wahanui     no it's not.
14:36 ashimema    that's right
14:36 cait        yeah, you can also see a red note in the reading lists for thos eitems
14:36 nengard     need to figure out how to document this to be 100% clear
14:36 nengard     it's a great idea
14:36 nengard     let people read the materials in the library and track who is using them
14:36 nengard     it's for closed stack items basically
14:36 nengard     Yeah, I'm seeing that now in the screenshots
14:36 magnuse     that is the understanding i have of it too
14:35 cait        ashimema: libraries i have talked to would use it for rare items, manuscripts - when someone goes tot he libreary to study the items there
14:35 cait        ashimema: the difference is those really go on the patron account, but are not supposed to leave the house
14:34 cait        ashimema: hm i think you are confusing with local use :)
14:31 * ashimema  watches tumbleweed roll on by
14:30 ashimema    I can't seem to find it :(
14:30 ashimema    wasn't there a bug with a db attached we can use to test against?
14:30 ashimema    Joubu..
14:27 * ashimema  is getting more and more annoyed that you need a very specific database to run testws again adn expect them to actually pass!
14:27 wahanui     i think cait is regretting a bit that we didn't offer this as an option first... or on a test system for people to see
14:27 ashimema    cait?
14:27 ashimema    it's a while since I read that bug though to be fair.. I might be barking up the wrong tree.. what the pref itself does I have no idea.
14:26 ashimema    librarian walks round at the end of the day.. picks up all the books that have been left out (reference or otherwise) and does an OnSiteCheckout to record the use..
14:26 ashimema    for stats purposes for example..
14:25 ashimema    it's for recording uses of items that are not loanable I beleive
14:25 ashimema    Joubu.. care to explain OnSiteCheckouts?
14:24 nengard     uh oh ... i scared you all away
14:22 nengard     after that I might be done with the 3.18 manual!!!
14:22 nengard     okay #koha - the last system preferences I have to document!!! OnSiteCheckouts -- explain to me why we need these because I'm confused
14:21 * ashimema  hopes someone might find time to test them once he's done
14:21 * ashimema  is adding tests to the shibboleth enhancement patches
14:21 cait        pretty hat
14:20 * ashimema  has his test writing hat on again
14:17 cait        hi carmenh
14:17 carmenh     morning #koha :D
14:11 nengard     okay, so i'll document it :)
14:11 tcohen      np ciat
14:09 cait        thx tochen :)
14:08 tcohen      and is set to bootstrap by default
14:08 tcohen      it had a hardcoded 'prog' as a fallback, that now is handled by that syspref
14:08 tcohen      its purpose is to provide a way to choose to what theme to fallback when you have a partial theme, like CCSR was
14:07 tcohen      but if the user had a custom theme... it would show there
14:07 tcohen      OPACFallback has no use right now, as we have only one theme
14:04 cait        it has still use if you want to add your own templates
14:04 cait        it stays
14:02 nengard     do I document it?
14:02 nengard     am i understanding the chats right - we're going to be removing  OPACFallback  ?
13:59 magnuse     that does not affect it
13:59 magnuse     ah, AddPatronLists
13:59 cait        patronlist i think
13:58 magnuse     what config would that be?
13:53 cait        magnuse: that it wasn't changed by accident?
13:53 cait        magnuse: did you check the ocnfig?
13:45 cait        i know it's hacky... but refining will have to wait
13:45 cait        $("#holdings a:contains('Auswahl aufheben')").after(' | <a href="' + biblionumber + '#tab10XX">Exemplardetails</a>');
13:45 cait        var biblionumber = $("#catalog_detail #menu a:contains('MARC'):first").attr('href');
13:45 cait        btw, the finished hack:
13:45 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search
13:45 cait        bug 13458
13:44 cait        we have fixed it on master with a patch only doing that
13:44 cait        more broken by a side effect
13:44 tcohen      cait: are you saying it got fixed as a side effect?
13:34 magnuse     yeah, it looks ok in 3.18.3
13:33 cait        it's a pref thing and we crated a problem there with the new patron search... which is not in 3.16? confusing
13:32 cait        or shoudl have been
13:32 cait        hm it was fixed in 3.18 i think
13:32 magnuse     after upgrading to 3.16.7, the dropdown for creating new patrons on the "Patrons" page (/cgi-bin/koha/members/members-home.pl) shows the hardcoded list of general patron categories, not the list the library has actually created themselves... anyone else seeing that?
13:29 magnuse     nengard++
13:28 cait        i use the link as is for the marc view and append my tab anchor :)
13:28 cait        hm oh i have another idea
13:28 nengard     I almost have the 3.18 manual finished after a day of working on it yesterday :)
13:28 nengard     morning #koha
13:28 magnuse     cait: http://www.jquerybyexample.net/2012/06/get-url-parameters-using-jquery.html ?
13:25 cait        googleing around a ibt
13:25 cait        the bit i need form the full url :) is the one i am missing
13:24 Joubu       location.href?
13:24 cait        hints welcome
13:24 cait        still trying to figure out how
13:23 Joubu       hum, my connexion lag...
13:22 Joubu       cait: you should certainaly can get it from the url
13:22 cait        but not sure how to extract it fromthe url
13:22 cait        i mean there are plenty of urls with it as parameter
13:22 magnuse     i missed the staff client bit...
13:22 cait        yeah was wondering
13:22 magnuse     ah, dang
13:21 magnuse     no, opac
13:21 oleonard    magnuse: Is that in the staff client?
13:21 cait        so they can go to that page with less clicks and it's more prominent
13:21 cait        so trying to add a shortcut :)
13:21 cait        i have a library with lots of custom item fields and the marc items tab is the only place we display those
13:21 Joubu       ha
13:21 Joubu       var biblionumber=[% biblionumber%] ?
13:21 magnuse     var id = $(".unapi-id").attr("title");
13:20 cait        yep
13:20 oleonard    Joubu: Custom JS
13:20 cait        Joubu: adding something with jquery
13:20 Joubu       why don't you get it from the TT var?
13:20 Joubu       cait: if it's a detail page, there is only 1 biblionumber
13:20 cait        do you have the jquery snipped maybe?
13:20 cait        agreeed wahanui
13:20 wahanui     using regex is like using black magic
13:20 cait        using regex?
13:20 cait        hmm
13:20 magnuse     i think i took it from <abbr class="unapi-id" title="koha:biblionumber:1911"><!-- unAPI --></abbr>
13:19 magnuse     cait: i have done something similar, let me check
13:18 cait        the 'add link to display' bit is working, just not sure about where best to get the biblionumber
13:17 cait        i want to add a link to another page where i need the number for
13:17 cait        i am looking for a good way to get the biblionumer on the normal view staff detail page
13:17 cait        do yu have a moment for a little jquery?
13:16 cait        hi oleonard
13:10 tcohen      hi oleonard #koha
12:59 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:52 cait        nice surprise: you can hide the restricted status information in the opac easily with css :)
11:55 paxed       without that, it did nothing.
11:55 paxed       huh. i gave link_bibs_to_authorities.pl --auth-limit='authid >= XXX' where XXX is the authid of the first existing authority... and _then_ the script removes the bib links to auths that do not exist.
11:51 bsa         but if several files then i wont prefer that
11:50 bsa         if only one xslt file needs to be changed i can try
11:50 cait        it's not possible with some quick configuration changes
11:50 bsa         oh
11:50 cait        you could add your own set of xslt in configuration, but it requires a bit of programming / putting files somewhere accessible by the server
11:50 bsa         yes staff search
11:49 cait        if you mean the staff search - those displays are made with xslt
11:49 bsa         along with that i wanted price
11:49 bsa         in kohaadmin when books are searched it shows title, author publisher
11:48 bsa         no
11:46 cait        do you mean in z39.50 search?
11:45 bsa         if i could get price
11:45 bsa         when records are search along with price, isbn, pages, publisher, year
11:45 bsa         i wanted to enable it in admin
11:45 bsa         ok
11:44 cait        bsa...
11:44 cait        bra: I think it's not possible, the price from the item is only visible inthe marc view
11:33 bsa         how to enable price field in opac as well as in admin page
11:32 bsa         is it possible to display price when books are searched in koha admin
11:20 eth0__      So for information, zebra can work behind a reverse-proxy/load balancer(haproxy)
11:19 eth0__      s/tcp:@6:9999/tcp:
11:19 eth0__      the problem was  tcp:@6:9999
11:19 cait        cool
11:18 cait        oh!
11:18 eth0__      cait: it works now ! ;)
11:12 cait        eth0__: still no idea sorry
11:07 eth0__      jcamins: cait ↑ Thanks :)
11:07 eth0__      server z3950 check
11:07 eth0__      option clitcpka
11:07 eth0__      option tcplog
11:07 eth0__      mode tcp
11:07 eth0__      listen z3950 :9999
11:07 eth0__      like this
11:06 eth0__      (pebcak), so z3950/zebra serve behind and haproxy
11:05 eth0__      it was tcp:@6:9999
11:05 eth0__      DAEMON_OPTS="-l /var/log/zebrasrvUNIMARC.log -u www-data tcp:"
11:05 eth0__      About my problem with haproxy / z3950
11:04 eth0__      Hi koha
10:13 cait        Joubu: thx, trying to keep it moving
10:05 Joubu       cait: will try to have a look asap
10:03 magnuse     excellent! sorry i missed that
10:02 Joubu       magnuse: I tried to complete the wiki page 2 weeks ago: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsageStat_RFC
09:54 magnuse     is there a good description of UsageStats and Hea, aimed at librarians, anywhere?
09:52 cait        looking for opinions on how the 'force item hold' should work in the new constellation with multiple itemtypes
09:52 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Move AllowOnShelfHolds and OpacItemHolds system preferences to the Circulation Matrix
09:52 cait        bug 5786
09:51 cait        i think you did the force itemholds dev?
09:50 cait        discussing with ashimema the allowonshelfholds/opacitemholds bug
09:50 cait        hi Joubu
09:49 Joubu       yep!
09:23 magnuse     howdy!
09:21 nlegrand    Hey.
09:20 magnuse     yup
09:16 kivilahtio  yeah
09:14 cait        yeah everyone is busy
09:12 ashimema    queit in here this morning.
08:35 ashimema    morning peeps
08:35 cait        morning ashimema
08:17 cait        that shoudl do it
08:17 cait        but you could try adding 1 new auth and reindex
08:17 cait        i am not sure how to force reset it
08:16 paxed       wtf
08:16 paxed       actually. looks like zebra returns the old results.
08:16 cait        hm so the index is still there?
08:16 paxed       auth search works.
08:13 cait        i remember there once was a problem about resetting to empty - not sure if that's still the case
08:13 cait        have you checked the authority search really doesn't work now?
08:10 paxed       blah. nope, reindexing didn't help
08:02 wahanui     bidet, alex_a
08:02 alex_a      bonjour
07:58 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
07:58 magnuse     @wunder boo
07:58 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 7.3°C (8:55 AM CET on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:58 magnuse     @wunder marseille
07:58 magnuse     bonjour france
07:58 Joubu       hello
07:55 wahanui     what's up, reiveune
07:55 reiveune    hello
07:52 paxed       (eg. going to /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=12345#Tab1XX doesn't show the 1 tab)
07:51 paxed       blah. MARCdetail.pl apparently doesn't obey the url fragment for showing the tab.
07:36 magnuse     "ensure that everything still works like it should and that there are no regressions of any kinds anywhere in the system" lulz!1!!
07:32 magnuse     reindexing is definitely worth a try
07:29 cait        bbl
07:28 cait        hm no ashimema
07:27 cait        afaik yes
07:27 paxed       cait: wait... so it's not enough to delete them from auth_header, relinking uses zebra for looking them up?!
07:26 cait        did you try to do an authority search?
07:26 cait        paxed: it might be they are still indexed?
07:25 BobB        ok, I've learnt something, thank you  :)
07:22 paxed       link_bibs_to_authorities needs an explicit --delete option
07:20 BobB        you may have found a bug?
07:20 BobB        I've never tried to remove all links ....
07:20 paxed       i feel like i've tried all the combinations
07:19 BobB        ok, anyway understanding what those prefs do does my head in
07:18 paxed       tried it, no effect.
07:18 BobB        I'm not sure, but it seems to make sense .... worth a try?
07:17 paxed       BobB: oh, CatalogModuleRelink should be "do not"?
07:04 BobB        hey dcook, you missed out on a knighthood yesterday?
07:04 * magnuse   knows next to nothing about authorities
07:04 magnuse     yo yo yo dcook
07:02 BobB        paxed is CatalogModuleRelink set to 'do not? and LinkerRelink to 'do'?
06:58 dcook       Sorry, paxed. Don't know. Haven't looked at authorities in ages.
06:58 dcook       yo magnuse
06:56 * magnuse   waves
06:50 paxed       i've deleted all from auth_header - but running link_bibs_to_authorities doesn't remove the links. Even though LinkerKeepStale syspref is "do not keep"
03:37 dcook       Ah, looks like all is cool
03:36 dcook       Hmm? Someone said my name?
03:28 eythian     heh
03:28 wizzyrea    I have the perfect but completely unpolitically correct reaction gif for that.
03:26 eythian     oh. It's totally working, I was just reading the output wrong :/
03:24 eythian     hrm, no, that's not it
03:18 eythian     I bet I'm never telling it that biblios and authorities are different things when indexing
03:17 eythian     tricksy
03:17 eythian     hmm, I already have mappings built, but they're not being applied.
03:14 eythian     well thta makes it easier.
03:14 eythian     it's already in 942$a
03:14 eythian     oh
03:11 eythian     I guess I'll have to figure out how to do that.
03:10 eythian     hmm
03:09 jcamins     And yes.
03:09 jcamins     It means not set.
03:05 eythian     oh, so it sticks "TOPIC_TERM" or whatever into a place?
03:05 eythian     and what does "authority type: default" mean?
03:04 jcamins     There's an index.
03:04 eythian     dcook / jcamins: how does zebra know what type a particular authority is, or does it not and just searches the particular field when you select the type?
03:03 dcook       I can't say I watch enough tv to keep track
03:03 dcook       Or maybe they're all overseas...
03:03 dcook       I have yet to see a talking kangaroo, but I'm sure they're around
03:03 jcamins     lol
03:03 dcook       wizzyrea: That's what I figure
03:03 wizzyrea    if it's on TV it has to be true.
03:03 eythian     shush don't say that be quiet
03:02 wizzyrea    omg, tv lies?
03:02 dcook       Are you telling me that TV has lied to me all this time?
03:02 wizzyrea    well that sucks.
03:02 dcook       iconic NYC fire escape*
03:02 dcook       jcamins: What about the NYC fire escape that we all expect every apartment to have?
03:01 wizzyrea    I agree with noticing trend of oceanic small houses with few outlets
03:01 dcook       eythian: Australians must've built your houses... I'm sorry.
03:01 jcamins     And apartments don't have direct exits to the outdoors most of the time. :(
03:01 eythian     dcook: same here :/
03:00 eythian     yeah, I have a small house, and have cords all over the place.
03:00 jcamins     Houses are generally unavailable.
03:00 * dcook     loves how Australian builders assume that no one ever needs to plug anything in...
03:00 wizzyrea    me too, they have fewer outlets.
03:00 wizzyrea    houses/apartments
03:00 dcook       wizzyrea: I find small houses need even more extension cords.
03:00 wizzyrea    houses are too small?
03:00 wizzyrea    why not?
03:00 jcamins     dcook: not really.
03:00 jcamins     And actually, New Yorkers don't generally have extension cords.
03:00 wizzyrea    yeah you're a bit south of the main storm?
02:59 dcook       Is NY experiencing a rather warm winter as well?
02:59 jcamins     There's not really much snow.
02:59 jcamins     wizzyrea: of course the power isn't out.
02:58 wizzyrea    eythian++ for funniness
02:57 eythian     like a cartoon character who doesn't fall off a cliff until he looks down.
02:57 eythian     there's no answer, I think he's just realised the power is gone
02:57 dcook       :S
02:56 wizzyrea    how are you on the internet ?!
02:56 wizzyrea    is the power out?!
02:56 wizzyrea    they probably do have extension cords though?
02:56 jcamins     Or outdoor outlets.
02:55 jcamins     wizzyrea: people in New York don't have generators.
02:54 wizzyrea    *electric kettle.
02:53 wizzyrea    you could probably achieve the same effect by just taking your kettle outside and letting it boil.
02:51 jcamins     They were doing that last year. It was really annoying.
02:24 eythian     ah OK, that makes sense
02:24 wizzyrea    so, boiling water -> steam -> snow
02:23 wizzyrea    I think it's that
02:23 wizzyrea    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deposition_%28phase_transition%29
02:22 eythian     isn't it just hot water making a lot of steam as it evaporates?
02:22 wizzyrea    nope you're right, that's just an accident waiting to happen.
02:22 wizzyrea    also throwing it over your head, probably not the smartest ever.
02:21 wizzyrea    well you don't throw the water *into* the wind, for one.
02:19 dcook       Certainly interesting!
02:19 eythian     yeah, thought that might be of interest
02:18 dcook       eythian: Neato burrito (https://metacpan.org/pod/ElasticSearch::SearchBuilder)
02:17 dcook       Rivers are melting and it's raining
02:17 dcook       Interestingly, it's actually been really warm in Canada this year...
02:16 dcook       That's actually in front of the SaskPower building in Regina... not really sure why they would do it there...
02:15 dcook       I think the problem is that they just weren't Canadian :p
02:15 dcook       Apparently this is how it's done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFj_i6HtebM
02:14 wahanui     hmmm... facepalm is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.
02:14 * dcook     facepalm
02:12 eythian     http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/a-whole-bunch-of-people-threw-boiling-water-in-the-air-to-wa#.np0y4JRKGO <-- exhibit B
02:12 eythian     http://www.theonion.com/video/snowy-conditions-proving-hazardous-for-nations-idi,18705/ <-- exhibit A
01:29 jcamins     The pepper is steeping.
00:43 jcamins     Whoops.
00:43 jcamins     I thought I might have misspelled it.
00:43 jcamins     eythian: ah, good.
00:43 eythian     all I heard was "solution"
00:41 jcamins     ... did I say "problem"?
00:41 jcamins     The only problem is that Shari wanted cookies, so then I'd have to make two varieties.
00:40 jcamins     lol
00:40 wahanui     eythian: huh?
00:40 eythian     wahanui: you're a bot, you don't have reactions to spicy things.
00:40 wahanui     szechuan pepper is righteously spicy - but I think not as spicy as the thing I had last night. Jeez.
00:40 jcamins     Szechuan pepper!
00:39 jcamins     Ooh!
00:39 * jcamins   can't decide what to bake. :(
00:28 wizzyrea    because I recalled that :)
00:28 wizzyrea    oh, I didn't actually *do* it
00:10 eythian     > Note: the instance name cannot be longer that 11 chars.
00:10 eythian     ah, it's documented but not enforced.
00:08 eythian     I think we should patch that so it's not a problem
00:08 eythian     oh
00:07 wizzyrea    <insert the usual internal drama about naming things that are too long for mysql>
00:00 wizzyrea    :D
00:00 eythian     well that was a good idea then
00:00 eythian     oh
00:00 wizzyrea    I did!