Time  Nick        Message
02:11 * Francesca waves
02:13 Francesca   hi #koha
02:23 Francesca   rangi are you around?
02:28 wizzyrea    he's on a well deserved holiday this week :)
02:53 Francesca   ok thanks
03:17 eythian     > Your changes have been rejected because you exceeded the time limit of 3 days before submitting your changes to process_bug.cgi.
03:38 eythian     @later tell dcook https://metacpan.org/pod/ElasticSearch::SearchBuilder
03:38 huginn      eythian: The operation succeeded.
03:52 BobB        hi alvet_
03:52 BobB        you should be enjoying a public holiday :)
03:53 eythian     BobB: that worked
03:53 eythian     BobB: also, you should be enjoying a public holiday :)
03:53 BobB        :)
03:54 eythian     @wunder nzwn
03:54 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 27.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
03:54 eythian     27? what is this madness
03:54 BobB        wow, here's a first
03:54 eythian     no, it was 27 yesterday too
03:54 BobB        @wunder Sydney, NSW
03:54 huginn      BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
03:54 eythian     see, it doesn't even exist
03:55 BobB        @wunder Sydney, new south wales, australia
03:55 huginn      BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
03:55 eythian     @wunder sydney
03:55 huginn      eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
03:55 BobB        It was there last time I looked  :)
03:55 eythian     @wunder sydney, australia
03:55 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.8°C (2:55 PM AEDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
03:55 eythian     that's chilly
03:55 BobB        8 degrees hotter in Wellington than in Sydney
03:55 BobB        Is that historical?
03:55 eythian     it must be :)
03:56 BobB        it was 36 at this time yesterday
03:57 eythian     a 16 degree change is the difference between warm and 0°
03:57 eythian     I don't know how you people live there.
03:57 BobB        yeah, yesterday was decidedly 'warm'
03:58 BobB        I have to say i prefer 20 to 36
04:00 eythian     I think I would have to agree
04:00 alvet_      hi BobB :)
04:01 jcamins     Tell you what... you can have 20"-36" of snow, and I'll take your weather.
04:01 * jcamins   is displeased about the snow.
04:02 eythian     wahanui: 20*2.54
04:02 wahanui     50.8
04:02 eythian     that's a fair bit of snow
04:02 eythian     you can keep it
04:03 jcamins     eythian: I'm hoping there isn't as much as they are predicting.
04:03 eythian     actually, if you dumped some in civic square, it'd be very popular until it turned into a puddle
04:03 eythian     there's more tourists than humans in the city today
04:03 jcamins     Heh.
04:05 eythian     oh yay, installing Log::Any stomps on files needed by Log::Any::Adaptor
04:06 * eythian   ignores that problem and hopes it goes away
04:08 eythian     damn, I can't ignore them.
04:08 eythian     Hopefully the new versions work safely
04:16 eythian     oh
04:17 eythian     Log::Any has absorbed Log::Any::Adaptor, I think
05:02 eythian     yay, Search::Elasticsearch tests pass
05:02 eythian     (there was a fair bit of work in making that happen :)
06:31 cait        good morning #koha
06:31 eythian     hi cait
06:32 cait        hi eythian
06:33 cait        @wunder Konstanz
06:33 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (7:33 AM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
06:33 cait        hm could be worse
06:33 eythian     no it couldn't, that's exactly 0!
06:33 eythian     @wunder nzwn
06:33 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:33 cait        and i think it's the first time it actually has given me Konstanz
06:33 cait        instead of a place close by
06:34 cait        well, it is winter here... you know
06:34 cait        real winter
06:34 eythian     that could be better, time to leave. It's too warm to think any more
06:34 eythian     yeah, I used to get real winter, then I moved
06:34 cait        se
06:34 cait        e
06:34 cait        have a nice evening
06:35 eythian     bye :)
06:45 * magnuse   waves
06:45 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:45 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising).
06:49 magnuse     eythian++ for making the Search::Elasticsearch tests pass
06:57 ashimema    morning #koha
07:07 cait        morning magnuse and ashimema
07:36 magnuse     hiya ashimema and cait
07:38 reiveune    hello
07:38 wahanui     privet, reiveune
07:40 ashimema    @wunder stevenage, uk
07:40 huginn      ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.3°C (7:30 AM GMT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:40 ashimema    @seen pianohacker
07:40 huginn      ashimema: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 3 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <pianohacker> magnuse: exactly my feelings
07:42 marcelr     hi #koha
07:54 cait        hi #koha
07:55 * ashimema  is confused
07:58 magnuse     ashimema: anything we can do to help?
07:58 ashimema    I have a feeling it's my regex fu
07:59 ashimema    using pinaohackers services stuff..
07:59 ashimema    attempting to match /2 and / (Capturing the 2 when present).. the regex in place is '/(\d+)'
08:00 ashimema    i'm sure that should work.. but for the empty string version it still matches and it returns the capture group as ='1'
08:01 ashimema    sure '/' should either fail to match.. or match but give you an undefined group
08:01 ashimema    any thoughts?
08:02 * magnuse   is confused too
08:03 magnuse     you are trying to match "/2" or "/"?
08:04 magnuse     does the "/" need to be escaped? "\/"
08:06 alex_a      bonjour
08:06 wahanui     kia ora, alex_a
08:11 ashimema    trying to match on either
08:13 ashimema    i.e. '/' and '/13' should both match, only one should give a match group = '13' the other should give a match group = 'undef'
08:15 ashimema    aha.. I think I see now...
08:15 ashimema    there's a fallback to '/' in pianohackers code.. that's where i'm getting mysefl confused..
08:15 Joubu       =~ s|/(\d*)|
08:15 Joubu       hello :)
08:15 Joubu       ashimema: + vs *
08:15 ashimema    so in fact '/' is NOT being matched by '/(\d+)' which is much more what I was expecting to see
08:17 ashimema    Joubu.. thanks for spotting my super simple mistake
08:17 * ashimema  feels a tad silly now :s
08:18 cait        you can never spot that kind of mistakes yourselves
08:18 ashimema    and nwo my api works as expected..
08:18 ashimema    :)
08:18 Joubu       simple mistakes are usual on monday morning :)
08:23 magnuse     ashimema++ for taking on pianohacker's code!
08:23 ashimema    I found a bug with it a while back.. just a tiny one in his default handling of objects to json conversion.. but I can't remember what it was..
08:24 ashimema    currently battling through my old notes trying to find it so I can fix it again bfore submitting hist and then my followup ;)
08:49 nlegrand    hey !
08:57 ashimema    ni nlegrand
09:13 magnuse     bonjour nlegrand
09:39 cait        thx for bug 13352 Joubu :)
09:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Editing amount in Acquisitions budget causes error due to formatting
09:40 cait        Joubu++
09:44 Joubu       cait: IMO since the budgets cannot be edited, it's a major, not minor. I updated the status.
09:46 Joubu       cait: I haven't seen this bug before, thanks to have cc me!
09:57 cait        i only noticed when the duplicate was fied, hadn't run into it myself either
10:23 * ashimema  should get his rebasing hat on soon.. need to forfill my promise of doing the work after the auth.pm tidy ;)
10:23 * ashimema  is very pleased that the file is now much more readable though :)
10:24 * cait      is happy that ashimema is pleased ;)
10:36 magnuse     yay!
10:40 kivilahtio  Joubu: Do oyu know if I can have some kind of an formal letter of invitation to the event from somewhere?
10:40 kivilahtio  with the "event" I mean the Hackfest 2015 in Marseilles, Paris
10:41 kivilahtio  paul_p seems busy, so I was wodering if anybody has one lying around?
10:42 paul_p      kivilahtio yes, i'm busy. I'll sent an invitation later asap (not today though)
10:42 kivilahtio  paul_p: can i reuse the last years?
10:42 kivilahtio  paul_p: so you don't have to?
10:42 paul_p      kivilahtio yes, of course !
10:43 kivilahtio  paul_p: OK, I'll do that
10:43 paul_p      perfect. Less work for me is always something I like :D
10:43 kivilahtio  agreed
10:51 marcelr     Joubu: bug 7710: sorry for not being very clear, but I meant add a comment or signoff line on the patch itself to show what you did
10:51 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title
10:53 kivilahtio  wow, libreoffice edits .pdf out-of-box! Another nail to Micro$oft's coffin!
10:53 Joubu       marcelr: ha ok!
11:33 cait        lunch time bbl
12:57 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:57 cait        hi oleonard
12:57 oleonard    @wunder 45701
12:57 huginn      oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -2.2°C (7:31 AM EST on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
12:58 magnuse     @wunder boo
12:58 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
13:10 tcohen      xmorning!
13:16 ashimema    morning tcohen
13:25 magnuse     ¡hola tcohen!
13:41 cait        hi tcohen
13:51 rsz         hi, I am configuring koha on a ubuntu server, I am facing problem when trying to search books via isbn using z3950 search.
13:51 rsz         I am getting records count, but nor records to import into...
13:52 cait        hm which version? marc21 or unimarc?
13:52 rsz         I checked the configurations of library of congress server on one of demo servers, and found them to be same, still no detailed results.
13:52 rsz         I tried both combinations!
13:52 rsz         I just get records count..
13:53 cait        rsz: which version of Koha re you using?
13:53 rsz         koha version: 3.18.03.000
13:53 cait        rsz: and which marformat are you using? you have to pick that when youinstall koha and can look it up in the marcflavor system preference
13:54 cait        but don't change it there for testing - it won't do all that is needed
13:54 rsz         ok, just checking..
13:55 rsz         I searched marcflavor in system preferences, did not find anything..
13:56 cait        hm try looking at the local use tab
13:57 rsz         I see marcflavour set to marc21
13:57 cait        ok
13:57 cait        that's good if you want to search llc
13:57 cait        loc
13:57 cait        can you share what you configured in the z39.50?
13:57 rsz         In Home › Administration › System preferences > Cataloging preferences
13:58 rsz         loc in system preferencs?
13:59 rsz         loc is coming for location also, can you be more specific what to search?
14:00 cait        sorry
14:00 cait        i meant your LOC search target in administration > z39...
14:00 rsz         host: lx2.loc.gov
14:01 rsz         port: 210 | database:LCDB | syntax: marc21/usmarc | encoding:utf8
14:01 cait        hm and bibliographic for the last field?
14:01 rsz         yes..
14:02 rsz         record type..
14:02 cait        that looks ok
14:02 cait        i am not sure what might be going wrong
14:02 rsz         I tried a marc8 database also, but still did not get detailed records.
14:02 rsz         is there a port that needs to be opened for z3950 protocol communication?
14:03 cait        yes, the 210
14:03 cait        but it's confusing that it shows you the number of results
14:07 rsz         here is how the results text look like: http://paste.koha-community.org/376
14:12 nlegrand    hey ashimema magnuse (I lag a bit today :))
14:13 cait        hm
14:13 cait        that doesn't look like you have searched LOC
14:13 cait        but 3 other targets
14:13 rsz         cait: the 210 port setting is for servers hosting z3950 lists, not clients requesting it??
14:13 cait        koha is a client in this case
14:14 rsz         should I open the 210 port?
14:14 cait        but your koha server must be allowed to reach to loc via 210
14:14 rsz         I am not too sure about it :-)
14:14 cait        maybe someone else can help better with this
14:14 cait        but maybe make another search, make sure you uncheck the checkboxed for everything and only check loc
14:15 rsz         ok..
14:16 rsz         it worked! :-)
14:16 rsz         I don't know what or how it worked...!
14:16 magnuse     cait++
14:16 rsz         thanks for the suggestion cait! I was starting to give up!!
14:17 cait        np :)
14:17 cait        there is a configuration option ont the z39.50 config page - checked
14:17 cait        it's for checking or unchecking the checkbox by default
14:17 cait        (hope that made sense)
14:18 rsz         ok...
14:18 cait        so you coudl check the loc by default and maybe remove some of the problematic targets from your default 'checked' search options
14:22 rsz         I was trying to look for what made the search work, and here is the diff: I changed database to LCDB_MARC8 and encoding to marc-8..
14:24 Joubu       the pref is named "marcflavour"
14:25 Joubu       whaou sorry, I was not at the end of the logs :)
14:25 magnuse     hehe
14:25 cait        Joubu: i think you can't search it because it's on local use - apart from my typo :)
14:26 * magnuse   has searched for that plenty of times
14:31 magnuse     ...and found it
14:35 rsz         is LOC the most exhaustive source for books listings?
14:41 * fridolin  dam wifi
15:08 rsz         is it possible to point a current koha installation to another instance of mysql db?
15:10 rsz         preferrably though the web interface..
15:10 ashimema    can't be done via the browser..
15:11 ashimema    to do it via the server, just switch the details over in koha-conf.xml
15:12 rsz         ok, thanks! :-)
15:12 eth0__      Hi koha :) Did someone use haproxy in front of a zebra's instance in order to serve unimarc/marc21 ?
15:13 cait        eth0__: what are you trying to do?
15:13 eth0__      i've this conf in haproxy :
15:13 eth0__      Listen z39502 :9998
15:13 eth0__      mode tcp
15:13 eth0__      option tcplog
15:13 eth0__      option clitcpka
15:13 eth0__      server z3950 8.8.8.8:9998 check
15:14 eth0__      afeter auth with yaz-client on my pc i'm trying : open tcp:8.8.8.8:9999/biblios
15:14 eth0__      and i get :
15:14 eth0__      Connecting...OK.
15:14 eth0__      Sent initrequest.
15:14 eth0__      Target closed connection
15:15 eth0__      I've tried to proxify with socat (socat TCP-LISTEN:9999,fork TCP:192.168.178.144:9999
15:15 cait        eth0__: i have never used haproxy, I am not sure what it is - but what are you trying to do?
15:16 eth0__      I've a zebra's instance wich listen in localhost, i'm trying to proxyfi
15:17 eth0__      marc.domaine.tld = 8.8.8.8 and then the server 8.8.8.8 redirect tcp traffic to the vm
15:28 jcamins     eth0__: I've never used haproxy for proxying Zebra, but the listen line looks wrong to me.
15:28 jcamins     Shouldn't that be listen z39502 :9999?
15:31 jcamins     I also think that you need noclitcpka and notcpka.
15:31 jcamins     But I'm just guessing.
15:32 eth0__      Ok i'm trying theses options
15:32 eth0__      thanks jcamins
15:32 * jcamins   has oddly specific guesses.
15:32 eth0__      jcamins: yes, i show you unimarc's haproxy configuration (it is also the same config, only the port change) ;)
15:34 jcamins     eth0__: does it work with UNIMARC?
15:40 eth0__      both doesn't work
15:40 jcamins     Okay.
15:40 * jcamins   stands by his guesses.
15:40 jcamins     Alas, those are my only guesses.
15:40 eth0__      and it don't work with noclitcpka notcpka
15:41 eth0__      What about iptables ?
15:41 jcamins     Oh well. That seemed like a good idea.
15:41 jcamins     I've never tried proxying Zebra with anything.
15:41 jcamins     If I wanted to, I'd probably use metaproxy, since that's what it's for.
15:41 eth0__      nobody uses failover/load balancer with koha ?
15:42 jcamins     Someone might, but I don't know who.
15:42 eth0__      jcamins: i saw http://www.indexdata.com/yazproxy but it is problematic because i already use keepalived → haproxy → VM
15:42 jcamins     My failover is mostly about the interface.
15:43 jcamins     Much less concerned about the Z39.50 interface.
15:46 tcohen      if you are reverse-proxing SRU, it is ok to use anything
15:46 tcohen      Z29.50 wouldn't work I suspect
15:47 jcamins     tcohen: I would think that without keepalive proxying Z39.50 should work.
15:50 eth0__      Did somebody already tried with keepalived ?
15:53 nengard     anyone around - gmcharlt maybe - who can explain the purpose of the XSLT files for transforming z39.50 results? I'm writing it up for the manual
15:55 cait        you can change the incoming record with them
15:56 cait        sorry on phone
15:57 nengard     tcohen can you maybe explain more for librarians? how should i put it in the manual?
15:57 cait        nengard: you can use it to change the record that you download from z39.50 - for example we have xslts that can remove the items that you would get from another koha catalog in the record, or all $9
15:57 nengard     that i understand ... i'm just not sure how to explain it to the average user
15:58 nengard     reading the bug report
15:58 cait        making your own xslt files to change something would require a bit of programming, maybe add as examples the 2 we have in Koha already?
15:58 ashimema    a for example would be using xslt to automatgically move 001 to 010 and set 001 as a local number upon imports
15:58 cait        i will try to find the bug report that added the 2 example files
15:58 nengard     http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681
15:58 huginn      04Bug 6681: enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
15:58 ashimema    The examples would be good cait ;)
15:58 cait        ashimema: hm 001 to 035?
15:58 wahanui      1
15:58 ashimema    that's waht i meant.. thanks cait
15:58 nengard     :)
15:58 ashimema    getting my fields confused
15:58 tcohen      nengard: XSLT knowledge is required, the fetaure lets you apply transformations on the received records
15:59 nengard     okay this is one of those scary ones that i don't want to document because i don't want to try and explain in training :) hehe
15:59 cait        and the result list you see already has the changes L)
15:59 tcohen      koha ships two example XSLTs
15:59 cait        you could do crazy things like replace all e with ä
15:59 nengard     wow
15:59 nengard     powerful
15:59 cait        yep )
15:59 ashimema    yup.. all sorts of crazy.. but cool
15:59 ashimema    ;)
15:59 cait        still searching bugzila
15:59 nengard     okay let me see if i can narrow this down without scaring people
15:59 nengard     :) hehe
15:59 nengard     you can all feel free to edit what i write
15:59 ashimema    easy way to compeletely bork records as they come in.. or tidy them ;)
16:00 cait        anyone... feel free to help me search
16:00 cait        it's hiding
16:01 nengard     cait are you looking for the examples? they're on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681
16:01 huginn      04Bug 6681: enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
16:01 cait        oh yes that one
16:01 nengard     :)
16:01 cait        it looks like e also included some change for the help page
16:02 cait        so we got 4 examples, 2 each for MARC21 and UNIMARC
16:02 cait        - Del952.xsl - Del995.xsl - Del9LinksExcept952.xsl - Del9LinksExcept995.xsl
16:03 cait        maybe you can reuse what's on the help page?
16:03 nengard     yes, I'll take a look at that
16:03 nengard     thanks all
16:03 reiveune    bye
16:03 nengard     trying to get this darn thing done so we can branch it for 3.20
16:03 * cait      is looking foward to play with the feature actually :)
16:04 cait        we do some bulk changes before importing from the union catalog... would be nice to also have them on download :)
16:04 nengard     eek, the help file has images in it
16:04 nengard     we don't usually do that
16:05 nengard     due to the size of the images
16:05 cait        makes sense
16:05 cait        but doesn't seem to be from this patch
16:05 cait        maybe from another
16:05 nengard     hmmm
16:05 cait        maybe the sru feature?
16:11 nengard     cait they're not images
16:11 nengard     they're tables - really pretty tables!
16:11 nengard     hehe
16:11 nengard     I thought they were images
16:13 cait        ah :)
16:14 cait        but it's a good thing to keep in mind - no img files for the help files
16:19 charles_    hey guys, I've a question about unit-tests
16:20 charles_    I'm on master, not on a fresh install but on a fresh database, and I get errors in Languages.t, QueryParser.t, Ratings.t, Search.t when I run a prove in t/db_dependent
16:20 charles_    is this normal?
16:25 cait        t/db_dependent might not all work
16:25 cait        some depend on sample data to be in the database
16:26 charles_    if I created the schema through the intranet page, and added all the available sample data from the installer, should it work?
16:27 cait        i can't test against my database right now
16:28 charles_    no problem
16:28 charles_    thanks for the input
16:28 cait        tcohen: do you know about Search.t and QueryParser.t?
16:28 tcohen      yes
16:29 tcohen      i don't get those problems, you probably paste some of the output
16:29 tcohen      paste?
16:29 wahanui     rumour has it paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
16:35 tcohen      charles_: what OS are you running the tests on?
16:36 tcohen      tripit-- # only accepts english confirmations .... .... you s*ck
16:43 charles_    Languages.t fails on the last tests, after looping over translatedLanguages2 in search of $_ != 0
16:43 nengard     okay, a bunch of manual updates coming for the z39/sru area and others
17:27 ashimema    cait?
17:27 wahanui     i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany.
17:50 rambutan    wahanui:  sprechen Sie Deutsch?
17:50 wahanui     rambutan: bugger all, i dunno
19:44 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13235: Move onclick attr to javacsript code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac3f497f64c1854a275fe894c1070f5888c1c302> / Bug 13235 - Revise layout of patron search form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d4672035ff16d465e649bf8c58860e267498797> / Bug 13373 - [QA Followup] - Update Polish web installer sample data files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
19:59 magnuse     eythian around yet?
20:23 wizzyrea    not yet, another hour or so
20:24 oleonard    Hi wizzyrea
20:24 wizzyrea    hi oleonard
20:24 wizzyrea    :D
20:30 oleonard    Bye wizzyrea
20:30 oleonard    :D
20:30 wizzyrea    D:
20:30 wizzyrea    later :)
20:30 jcamins     wizzyrea: no snowmageddon where you are?
20:31 wizzyrea    it's hot as today
20:31 wizzyrea    @wunder nzwn
20:31 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
20:31 wizzyrea    nope.
20:31 wizzyrea    no snow.
20:34 jcamins     Lucky.
20:34 wizzyrea    how about you? hear you're about to get slammed
20:34 jcamins     The office closed at 2:30.
20:34 jcamins     I wasn't there until then because I had a lunch, so I came home right after lunch.
20:34 jcamins     There are several inches of snow outside already.
20:35 wizzyrea    wow.
20:35 * jcamins   went on the record saying "there won't be much snow."
20:35 * jcamins   was wrong.
20:35 wizzyrea    eh there are worse things
20:36 jcamins     True, but I still don't like snow.
21:11 cbrannon    Got a question for anyone.  Have you ever heard of Koha creating and attaching items to blank bib records out of the blue?
21:12 cait        blank?
21:12 wahanui     i think blank is not null
21:13 BobB        cbrannon, it can't be blank, there must at least be a biblio number?
21:14 BobB        a value in items.biblionumber for these new items?
21:15 cbrannon    Sorry, I mean, have ITEMS ever been created by Koha, not a person, and attached to a bib record that has no items?
21:15 BobB        ah ok
21:16 BobB        The only thing that comes to my mind is when people misinterpret the 'Edit Items' page and create a new one inadvertently ..
21:16 BobB        when their intention was to edit an existing one
21:16 BobB        otherwise, no
21:16 cait        no
21:16 eythian     @later tell magnuse sup?
21:16 huginn      eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:16 eythian     also, hi
21:16 cait        cbrannon: could it be possible they have been downloadedfrom another koha catalog via z39.50?
21:17 cait        if the downloaded files included a 952 that could do it i gues
21:17 eythian     I do that misreading the edit items page thing all the time
21:18 * BobB      learnt that one the hard way
21:20 cbrannon    Thanks for the feedback.  :)
21:29 wizzyrea    that edit items page is a significant user experience problem, people doing the wrong thing a lot.
21:29 wizzyrea    I'm not sure how to fix it.
21:29 eythian     If only we had some UX people handy :)
21:47 eythian     mtj: your 3.16 branch still (probably) doesn't build without bug 12642 applied. It really really should go in.
21:47 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12642 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SMS.t requires a database
21:48 wizzyrea    IF ONLY.
21:54 magnuse     are there supposed to be packages for 3.16.7 yet?
21:55 magnuse     i have "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha oldstable main" in sources.list, but after apt-get update i still have 3.16.05.1 as the candidate
21:55 magnuse     (when i do "sudo apt-cache policy koha-common")
21:56 eythian     magnuse: give me about 20 minutes, I forgot to build them yesterday, but am preparing to do so as I type.
21:56 eythian     (you people are so needy ;)
21:56 liw         eythian++
21:58 magnuse     eythian++ definitely!
21:58 magnuse     and liw++ for old times sake ;-)
21:59 magnuse     shouldn't there be a 3.16.6 package, though?
21:59 eythian     magnuse: read the changelog
21:59 eythian     (when it's released with the packages)
21:59 magnuse     hehe, wil do
21:59 eythian     short answer: there was some confusion with 3.16.05 and .06.
22:00 magnuse     cool, no stress
22:00 eythian     due to security patches not being correctly applied, or something.
22:00 eythian     long answer: I don't really remember.
22:00 magnuse     i was just afraid there was something wonky with my apt
22:16 * cait      is not a happy cait
22:16 magnuse     ohnoes?!?
22:18 eythian     hi cait
22:18 eythian     unhappy cait
22:18 cait        hi eythian
22:21 eythian     magnuse:
22:21 eythian     3...
22:21 eythian     2.5...
22:22 eythian     2...
22:22 eythian     1...
22:22 eythian     done!
22:22 * magnuse   starts the upgrade
22:30 magnuse     ...and it's done
22:30 magnuse     thanks eythian!
22:30 eythian     any time :)
22:33 eythian     http://www.whatwedointheshadows.com/ <-- unrelated, but I recommend you watch this movie.
22:35 magnuse     heh, it *actually* starts playing in our local cinema this thursday :-)
22:35 eythian     nice :)
22:37 magnuse     i just might go see it, then :-)
22:39 * magnuse   makes a note of looking at Bug 13431 tomorrow, then falls asleep
22:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Needs Signoff , Shared FastMmap file causes issues
22:58 mtj         eythian: thanks for the headsup
23:01 AndroUser   Hello koha community!
23:01 AndroUser   Testing android chat
23:02 mtj         eythian: sms.t seems to be passing OK in jenkins, currently
23:02 AndroUser   Test
23:02 mtj         ..so, probably ok to leave patch until next release
23:03 schnydszch  Sorry for the bother i was just testing androidchat :-)
23:03 mtj         works ok schnydszch :)
23:04 schnydszch  Thanks mtj! I can now follow koha community chat in my phone. Well aside from the list :-)
23:19 mtj         sounds fun ^
23:19 mtj         ..i am looking for a good android irc client too
23:27 mtj         this looks perfect
23:27 mtj         https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iskrembilen.quasseldroid&hl=en
23:30 mtj         magnuse:  im not sure whats up the  "sudo apt-cache policy koha-common"
23:32 eythian     I use "atomic"
23:32 mtj         ta eythian
23:33 mtj         fwiw, my policy said 3.16.5.1 too
23:33 eythian     (but I haven't compared it to Quassel)
23:33 eythian     mtj: it's because of the security patch that needed to be applied twice
23:33 mtj         i just apt-get update(d) , now its on 3.16.7 (good)
23:34 eythian     yep
23:35 mtj         i'm just not sure why the policy was not bumped to 3.16.6
23:35 mtj         ..some quirk where apt thinks 3.16.5.1 > 3.16.6 ?
23:35 mtj         pass... its fixed now, all god :0)
23:35 mtj         good
23:36 eythian     no
23:36 mtj         no?
23:36 wahanui     http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg
23:36 schnydszch  mtj i'm using androirc
23:38 eythian     androirc isn't free software
23:38 schnydszch  ..and it's my first time using it. It's a mess connecting to koha irc in phone's chrome
23:39 eythian     mtj: I'm a little confused really. It might just be I missed the release of it, or I though my .1 was equivalent, or something
23:43 jcamins     Help me, wizzyrea. You are my only hope!
23:43 jcamins     ... to find out what kind of cookie I should bake.
23:43 jcamins     What kind of cookie should I bake?
23:43 cait        something with oats
23:45 eythian     she's gone for (I presume) lunch
23:48 jcamins     Alas. I guess I won't find out what to bake for a little longer, then.
23:48 cait        no oats?
23:48 cait        :(
23:49 eythian     @wunder nzwn
23:50 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:30 PM NZDT on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
23:50 eythian     hmm, not living up to the forecast of 27 so far.
23:52 eythian     ah, that source is wrong. Apparently it's actually 25.
23:54 wizzyrea    jcamins: If I thought you had oreos in the house, I'd suggest inception cookies.
23:54 jcamins     Hehe.
23:55 eythian     A wise suggestion
23:56 jcamins     I do not.
23:57 wizzyrea    http://www.delish.com/recipefinder/banana-walnut-chocolate-chunk-cookies-recipe
23:58 * wizzyrea  admits to not having great cookie suggestions today because it is so flippin hot out all I want to eat/drink is icecubes.
23:58 wizzyrea    maybe juice.
23:59 eythian     wizzyrea: have a smoothy from the smoothy place across the road.