Time  Nick       Message
20:30 mtompset   Have a great weekend, #koha.
19:42 mtompset   Greetings, #koha. :)
16:58 jcamins    cait: thanks.
16:40 khall      np!
16:40 cma        ah-ha--I think this is what I need.  http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing  Thanks khall for the clue!
16:19 khall      that would make sense
16:18 cma        but the test server was running master for a while, so it might have been installed before the new zebra facets were added, hence the missing config entry
16:17 cma        yeah.
16:16 khall      cma: are they running the same version of koha?
16:14 cma        On the new server it says nothing on that tab.
16:14 cma        maybe you're right...on the *test* server under System information it says "The <use_zebra_facets> entry is missing in your configuration file.  Falling back to legacy facet calculation."
16:13 khall      do you have <use_zebra_facets>1</use_zebra_facets> in your koha conf?
16:11 khall      I was thinking maybe it was the new zebra facets
16:11 cma        i don't see anything at all in there about facets
16:11 reiveune   bye
16:09 khall      cma: go to the about page in the staff side, see what it says about your facets
16:08 cma        and I'm following my install notes from the test server, so it should be the same.  Is there a syspref or cronjob involved?  I don't recall having to do anything to make it work on the test server, but I haven't set up any cronjobs yet on this server.
16:07 cma        said grs, that is
16:07 cma        dom, because the installer saidgrs is deprecated
16:06 khall      cma: are you set for dom indexing, or grs?
16:05 cma        What's weird is they're there on my test server.
16:05 cma        Hi all--would someone be able to clue me in as to why facets would be completely missing from the catalog in a "fresh" dev install of 3.18.2?  I say "fresh" because I'm upgrading from 3.01 so I ported my database.
15:52 khall      not that I'm seeing
15:50 khall      not sure, I'll have to look into it
15:49 bag        khall: did piano submit some of that api and angular circ yesterday night?
15:42 khall      cait: in some cases, but by largely it's just whitespace
15:41 cait       khall: i think perltidy can also change how the lines break - so that -w wouldn't help in that case
15:40 cait       jcamins: nice photo :)
15:34 Joubu      moreover the indentation is quite correct on this file
15:33 Joubu      I am not sure it's a good idea, it will cause conflicts on other patches
15:32 khall      really, I tidy'd it because it was hard to read in its original form
15:32 khall      I was under the understanding that tidying became a non-issue when we discovered git can ignore whitespace changes for blaming
15:30 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13517 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Show waiting date on reserve/request.pl
15:30 Joubu      khall: Is there something voted about tidying files? I don't understand why you tidied request.pl on bug 13517.
15:27 huginn     jcamins: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 18 times for a total karma of -18.
15:27 jcamins    @karma ie
15:27 Joubu      ie--
15:27 jcamins    ^^ the song
15:27 jcamins    ie--
15:27 jcamins    ie--
15:27 jcamins    ie--
15:27 jcamins    ie--
15:27 jcamins    ie--
15:27 jcamins    ie--
15:27 * jcamins  sings the IE song.
14:53 cait       hi atheia :)
14:38 ashimema   and of course.. koha has no inline editing.. (bar quotes)
14:38 ashimema   I have good examples outside.. it was more inside koha I was interested in ;)
14:37 ashimema   I'll stick some hinting in, and add a description below too
14:37 oleonard   ashimema: My instinct would be to seek out good examples outside of Koha
14:37 ashimema   k
14:37 oleonard   ashimema: I think inline editing is still new interface territory. I don't think there is an established pattern that many users will have encountered
14:36 khall      that's what I figured ; )
14:35 * oleonard has never actually been to Arkansas
14:35 oleonard   khall: Just showing what it would look like with a long branch name ;)
14:35 Joubu      oleonard: looks beter, thanks!
14:35 ashimema   did HEA make it in?
14:35 ashimema   :)
14:35 khall      love the Arkansas line! ; )
14:35 fridolin   3.14.13 is out
14:34 ashimema   in most other apps I work with the majority of the interface is editable inline.. so we just 'hint' that something is or is not editable by adding a underline or similar
14:34 khall      that looks great!
14:34 khall      oleonard++ !
14:34 oleonard   khall, Joubu: Lots of export checkboxes with some style added: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14220235556056
14:33 ashimema   yup
14:33 oleonard   ashimema: meaning, How to make it clear to the user that something is editable inline?
14:32 ashimema   above the table
14:32 ashimema   the quotes editor gives a wordy description..
14:32 ashimema   oleonard.. any thoughts on hinting regarding inline editing?
14:17 * magnuse  wanders off to make pizza
14:13 khall      yep
14:13 Joubu      khall: did you include the css file?
14:13 khall      yeah, not sure what's going on there
14:12 Joubu      khall: it's weird, the pref display looks good
14:09 oleonard   I don't have 40 branches in my test system, but I would think it would scale up just fine
14:09 oleonard   I like the simpler solution better. I don't think this needs a multi-select.
14:06 cait       do we have a 3.16?
14:05 cait       hm which versions released now since yesterday?
14:05 khall      oleonard: see http://content.screencast.com/users/kylemhall/folders/Jing/media/b8157ad1-8c96-4a7e-a007-c4597d4b5fe2/00000013.png for other option
14:05 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , Improve exporter to allow multiple branch selections
14:05 cait       oleonard: what do you think about bug 13040?
14:05 khall      cait: yeah, but there are other potential problems as well, I left a not on the bug
14:04 cait       hi oleonard
13:59 oleonard   Hi #koha
13:59 cait       khall: maybe just needs an align left?
13:57 magnuse    fridolin++
13:48 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
13:48 fridolin   FYI Bug 12428 was passed QA. since it was made not for master but 3.16 and below i've set its status to "pushed to stable"
13:47 tcohen     fridolin++
13:47 fridolin   me releasing 3.14.13
13:42 khall      Joubu: I'd say it doesn't look to great with the multi-select plugin: http://content.screencast.com/users/kylemhall/folders/Jing/media/b8157ad1-8c96-4a7e-a007-c4597d4b5fe2/00000013.png
13:38 magnuse    sub++
13:37 magnuse    http://www.sub.su.se/home/news/blog/2015/january/stockholm-university-library-chooses-koha/ <-- now with a longer summary in english!
13:30 cait       but let's talk about it and see what i can do
13:30 cait       ashimema: i can't test myself - we asked the library to do that in the past
13:30 Joubu      khall: commit 2a69a2c826c91258728a2bd5b4be3316a43a0f3
13:30 khall      thanks!
13:30 Joubu      khall: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences.tt search for "multiple"
13:27 khall      s/can/cannot
13:27 khall      Joubu: can you point me to the code where you make use of the select with checkboxes? I know it was in the system prefs, but I can recall exactly where it is
13:18 khall      let me see if I can fix up the failures
13:18 khall      however, since I didn't even see it in action, I'm unable to make that call.
13:17 khall      Joubu: I'd think your plugin with the checkboxes may work, but I think we'd need to A/B both variations. The one strong point of the checkboxes is we could *possibly* restyle them to not be a long list.
13:17 Joubu      khall: Actually I let the status to SO, to get other QA pov, maybe should have switched to in discusion
13:16 Joubu      k
13:16 khall      yeah, I didn't weigh in because koha-qa failed before I even got to look at it. TT invalid errors
13:16 Joubu      What is your thinking about that?
13:15 Joubu      khall: yep
13:14 khall      Joubu: you mean the checkbox/select issue?
13:13 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Failed QA , Improve exporter to allow multiple branch selections
13:13 Joubu      khall: did you see my comments on bug 13040 before you changed the status?
13:06 tcohen     hi cait
12:51 ashimema   Or perhaps you could talk me through what to look for.. I'm never all that good at that side of stuff
12:50 ashimema   may get you to test some stuff for accessibility at some point if that's ok cait.. not for a while though ;)
12:50 * magnuse  waves
12:47 * cait     waves
12:38 ashimema   ?
12:37 tcohen     YAY
12:37 tcohen     morning magnuse
12:34 kivilahtio you got me there
12:33 kivilahtio magnuse: well.. ...
12:33 magnuse    they might have torn it down because you stayed there? ;-)
12:32 kivilahtio if it is still standing :)
12:32 kivilahtio I might go to hotel sylvabelle again :)
12:29 magnuse    we'll be staying at the same hotel in marseille :-)
12:29 magnuse    kia ora tcohen
12:25 kivilahtio thanks!
12:19 magnuse    or think
12:18 magnuse    no blog post yet, i thinl
12:18 magnuse    kivilahtio: i think this is the most official: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2014-December/041008.html
12:11 kivilahtio magnuse: can you post the link again?
12:11 kivilahtio ok. I need to write a travel permission request
12:11 magnuse    kivilahtio: the hackfest is 2. - 6. march
12:11 ashimema   no worries
12:11 kivilahtio thanks
12:10 ashimema   http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/javascript.html#modals
12:10 ashimema   modal.. a dialogue that pops up
12:10 kivilahtio I already got the link but misplaced it :(
12:10 kivilahtio ashimema: what do you mean with "modal"?
12:10 kivilahtio when was the Koha hackfest?
11:35 ashimema   I'm all for keeping code relatively standardised ;)
11:35 ashimema   they're relatively easy to get your head around.. just wanted ot make sure I was following our own style :)
11:34 ashimema   cheers Joubu..
11:34 Joubu      git grep GB_showCenter
11:34 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Batch modifications for records
11:34 Joubu      ashimema: yep, I used it for bug 11395
11:30 magnuse    i can't think of any modals
11:29 magnuse    ah, congrats!
11:05 ashimema   I thoug the select library peice might be a modal.. but it appears not :(
11:05 ashimema   silyl question.. do we use modal dialogue in koha staff client anywhere.. I can't think of any at the minute?
11:03 ashimema   bubs, english slang term for baby
10:59 magnuse    it sure is
10:59 wahanui    lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:59 magnuse    oh well, lunchtime
10:58 magnuse    bubs?
10:58 magnuse    yay
10:58 ashimema   also.. need to poke Colin and Alex to register properly.. alex at least is all booked.
10:58 ashimema   Still need to book my accommodation for hackfest.. been debating how long I should come with bubs on the way very soon.
10:57 ashimema   skI did indeed :)
10:54 magnuse    ashimema: did you get the @later from pianohacker and why are you missing from the marseille spreadsheet? ;-)
10:54 magnuse    kia ora ashimema
10:53 ashimema   morning
10:41 magnuse    alive? ;-)
10:31 cait       just got out of the weekly koha meeting :)
10:31 * cait     waves
10:31 magnuse    excellent!
10:23 Joubu      started*
10:23 Joubu      magnuse: I added a link on rest rfc wiki page to the discussion Tomas start in july: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2014-July/040640.html
09:44 magnuse    paul_p++ for the hackfest spreadsheet! :-)
09:06 paul_p     hi #koha
09:00 Joubu      rangi: still awake? :)
09:00 Joubu      hello #koha
08:24 mtj        ..i played with my dad's g6? over xmas - super impressed
08:23 mtj        http://www.elephone.cc/ca-elephones-7.html
08:23 mtj        i'm a big fan of 'elephone',  atm
08:19 mtj        anyhoo.. ill try and get some advice from #koha peeps, over the next week..
08:17 mtj        ive been amazed at how much bang-for-buck the cheap fones are?!
08:16 * mtj      <- 1st time smartfone buyer
08:15 mtj        im having a look about for myself
08:15 mtj        hey peeps, can anyone recommend a good android phone series?
08:11 magnuse    hope you are saving some heat for the beginning of march
08:11 magnuse    ooh, that's not too hot
08:10 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 0.3°C (9:04 AM CET on January 23, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
08:10 magnuse    @wunder marseille
08:10 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -5.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 23, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:10 magnuse    @wunder boo
08:10 magnuse    bonjour france
08:03 fridolin   hie community
07:57 wahanui    hello, alex_a
07:57 alex_a     bonjour
07:55 dcook      night all :)
07:41 reiveune   hello
07:39 magnuse    lol?
07:35 wahanui    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
07:35 cait       what does the fox say?
07:35 * cait     waves
06:49 * magnuse  waves
06:15 mtj        cool, ta chris
05:58 rangi      yep exactly that
05:11 mtj        i was going to reply on the list - but i dont know the answer
05:09 mtj        ..just curious, (i dont think i've spotted a MM pushed bug yet)
05:06 mtj        MM has pulled it to his branch and then... tcohen will pull it to 'master' branch?
05:05 mtj        what happens to it now?
05:04 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Pushed by Module Maintainer , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently.
05:04 mtj        i have a Q about bug 5511
03:08 * dcook    still thinks it's "stormageddon" would be a perfectly reasonable name for an enfant...
03:08 dcook      Or maybe that just means too much Doctor Who
03:07 dcook      It might be telling that my test file was "stormageddon.txt"
03:07 * dcook    needs to be productive
03:07 dcook      Probably not a good idea to stay
03:07 * eythian  thinks not
03:07 * dcook    nod nod
03:07 dcook      eythian should stay until it's time for dcook's beer o'clock
03:07 dcook      Although I haven't eaten lunch so maybe not...
03:06 eythian    right as I started being productive on something...
03:06 * dcook    wishes it were beer o'clock in oz
03:06 dcook      Wha?
03:06 * eythian  notes that it's beer o'clock
03:05 tcohen     i already set several tests to run against apache on jenkins, next step is set it to run arachni and OWASP test suites against it too
03:05 tcohen     mtj, let me know anything you'd like to do, I'll try to help you accomplish it
03:04 mtj        .. im happy to bump this to next month/release
03:02 mtj        buy hey, lets not worry about this for now tcohen
03:02 tcohen     mtj, i'm trying to figure how to give you access
03:00 mtj        tcohen:  where do i take a look?
02:59 * dcook    should look at jenkins one of these days...
02:59 tcohen     koha_3.16, koha_master
02:59 tcohen     koha_version
02:59 tcohen     (and now virtualhost definitions)
02:59 tcohen     if you take a look, I used some variables to handle specific paths, and also i used a specific schema for the dir names
02:58 mtj        aah, ok
02:58 tcohen     all the magic is on the jeknins configuration
02:58 tcohen     with the public key for the jenkins server to access, implanted
02:57 tcohen     i just wanted to mention that there's only a java runtime and a "jenkins" user on the jenkins nodes
02:57 tcohen     hi mtj
02:57 mtj        ..thanks for the heads-up
02:56 mtj        yep, read, will do
02:56 rangi      i sent you an email :)
02:56 mtj        hi tcohen, rangi, you pinged before..
02:35 dcook      yay wizzyrea!
01:51 wizzyrea   \o/
01:51 huginn     wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #313 added.
01:51 huginn     wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:42 rangi      nope
01:42 huginn     rangi: 3 found: #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve...", #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls.", and #275: "<oleonard> I know a unit test for a flat cookie..."
01:42 rangi      @quote search TEST
01:42 rangi      hmm
01:38 dcook      Actually, it's probably already a quote
01:38 dcook      "<rangi> DO NOT DO THIS ON PRODUCTION UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE IT ON TEST FIRST AND IT WORKED" would be a good quote ;)
01:38 dcook      Who's familiar with huginn?
01:37 rangi      yeah
01:37 dcook      package install and they wouldn't even need to worry
01:37 dcook      Mmm, yeah, right
01:36 eythian    however, if they've dropped it, the grants have gone
01:36 dcook      I was just about to ask why they didn't do a package backup
01:36 eythian    which would have done it for them
01:36 eythian    the instructions suggested a package install
01:36 dcook      Or do the grants
01:36 dcook      Sounds like they didn't create the koha_paclibrary mysql user...
01:35 rangi      yeah
01:35 dcook      I was wondering why they were looking in /var/lib/mysql rather than checking it through the mysql interface...
01:32 eythian    well, two problem they've got are looking in /var/lib/mysql and expecting it to make sense, and loading stuff into mysql as the root user
01:31 rangi      i mean that's what it should be
01:31 rangi      the first line is do this on a test install first
01:31 rangi      those are pretty average instructions
01:30 rangi      yeah
01:29 wizzyrea   but... I was trained by the best so...
01:29 wizzyrea   that is probably not the way I would have gone about that.
01:25 rangi      http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-January/041856.html
01:25 dcook      ww?
01:25 dcook      ?
01:24 rangi      also
01:24 rangi      that doesnt sound great
01:24 rangi      ouch
00:49 eythian    master packages uploading
00:38 dcook      eythian++
00:21 eythian    3.18.03 packages uploading