Time Nick Message 00:21 eythian 3.18.03 packages uploading 00:38 dcook eythian++ 00:49 eythian master packages uploading 01:24 rangi ouch 01:24 rangi that doesnt sound great 01:24 rangi also 01:25 dcook ? 01:25 dcook ww? 01:25 rangi http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-January/041856.html 01:29 wizzyrea that is probably not the way I would have gone about that. 01:29 wizzyrea but... I was trained by the best so... 01:30 rangi yeah 01:31 rangi those are pretty average instructions 01:31 rangi the first line is do this on a test install first 01:31 rangi i mean that's what it should be 01:31 rangi DO NOT DO THIS ON PRODUCTION UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE IT ON TEST FIRST AND IT WORKED 01:32 eythian well, two problem they've got are looking in /var/lib/mysql and expecting it to make sense, and loading stuff into mysql as the root user 01:35 dcook I was wondering why they were looking in /var/lib/mysql rather than checking it through the mysql interface... 01:35 rangi yeah 01:36 dcook Sounds like they didn't create the koha_paclibrary mysql user... 01:36 dcook Or do the grants 01:36 eythian the instructions suggested a package install 01:36 eythian which would have done it for them 01:36 dcook I was just about to ask why they didn't do a package backup 01:36 eythian however, if they've dropped it, the grants have gone 01:37 dcook Mmm, yeah, right 01:37 dcook package install and they wouldn't even need to worry 01:37 rangi yeah 01:38 dcook Who's familiar with huginn? 01:38 dcook "<rangi> DO NOT DO THIS ON PRODUCTION UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE IT ON TEST FIRST AND IT WORKED" would be a good quote ;) 01:38 dcook Actually, it's probably already a quote 01:42 rangi hmm 01:42 rangi @quote search TEST 01:42 huginn rangi: 3 found: #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve...", #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls.", and #275: "<oleonard> I know a unit test for a flat cookie..." 01:42 rangi nope 01:51 wizzyrea @quote add <rangi> DO NOT DO THIS ON PRODUCTION UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE IT ON TEST FIRST AND IT WORKED 01:51 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 01:51 wizzyrea @quote add <rangi> DO NOT DO THIS ON PRODUCTION UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE IT ON TEST FIRST AND IT WORKED 01:51 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #313 added. 01:51 wizzyrea \o/ 02:35 dcook yay wizzyrea! 02:56 mtj hi tcohen, rangi, you pinged before.. 02:56 rangi i sent you an email :) 02:56 mtj yep, read, will do 02:57 mtj ..thanks for the heads-up 02:57 tcohen hi mtj 02:57 tcohen i just wanted to mention that there's only a java runtime and a "jenkins" user on the jenkins nodes 02:58 tcohen with the public key for the jenkins server to access, implanted 02:58 tcohen all the magic is on the jeknins configuration 02:58 mtj aah, ok 02:59 tcohen if you take a look, I used some variables to handle specific paths, and also i used a specific schema for the dir names 02:59 tcohen (and now virtualhost definitions) 02:59 tcohen koha_version 02:59 tcohen koha_3.16, koha_master 02:59 * dcook should look at jenkins one of these days... 03:00 mtj tcohen: where do i take a look? 03:02 tcohen mtj, i'm trying to figure how to give you access 03:02 mtj buy hey, lets not worry about this for now tcohen 03:04 mtj .. im happy to bump this to next month/release 03:05 tcohen mtj, let me know anything you'd like to do, I'll try to help you accomplish it 03:05 tcohen i already set several tests to run against apache on jenkins, next step is set it to run arachni and OWASP test suites against it too 03:06 * eythian notes that it's beer o'clock 03:06 dcook Wha? 03:06 * dcook wishes it were beer o'clock in oz 03:06 eythian right as I started being productive on something... 03:07 dcook Although I haven't eaten lunch so maybe not... 03:07 dcook eythian should stay until it's time for dcook's beer o'clock 03:07 * dcook nod nod 03:07 * eythian thinks not 03:07 dcook Probably not a good idea to stay 03:07 * dcook needs to be productive 03:07 dcook It might be telling that my test file was "stormageddon.txt" 03:08 dcook Or maybe that just means too much Doctor Who 03:08 * dcook still thinks it's "stormageddon" would be a perfectly reasonable name for an enfant... 05:04 mtj i have a Q about bug 5511 05:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Pushed by Module Maintainer , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. 05:05 mtj what happens to it now? 05:06 mtj MM has pulled it to his branch and then... tcohen will pull it to 'master' branch? 05:09 mtj ..just curious, (i dont think i've spotted a MM pushed bug yet) 05:11 mtj i was going to reply on the list - but i dont know the answer 05:58 rangi yep exactly that 06:15 mtj cool, ta chris 06:49 * magnuse waves 07:35 * cait waves 07:35 cait what does the fox say? 07:35 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 07:39 magnuse lol? 07:41 reiveune hello 07:55 dcook night all :) 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:57 wahanui hello, alex_a 08:03 fridolin hie community 08:10 magnuse bonjour france 08:10 magnuse @wunder boo 08:10 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -5.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 23, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 08:10 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:10 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 0.3°C (9:04 AM CET on January 23, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 08:11 magnuse ooh, that's not too hot 08:11 magnuse hope you are saving some heat for the beginning of march 08:15 mtj hey peeps, can anyone recommend a good android phone series? 08:15 mtj im having a look about for myself 08:16 * mtj <- 1st time smartfone buyer 08:17 mtj ive been amazed at how much bang-for-buck the cheap fones are?! 08:19 mtj anyhoo.. ill try and get some advice from #koha peeps, over the next week.. 08:23 mtj i'm a big fan of 'elephone', atm 08:23 mtj http://www.elephone.cc/ca-elephones-7.html 08:24 mtj ..i played with my dad's g6? over xmas - super impressed 09:00 Joubu hello #koha 09:00 Joubu rangi: still awake? :) 09:06 paul_p hi #koha 09:44 magnuse paul_p++ for the hackfest spreadsheet! :-) 10:23 Joubu magnuse: I added a link on rest rfc wiki page to the discussion Tomas start in july: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2014-July/040640.html 10:23 Joubu started* 10:31 magnuse excellent! 10:31 * cait waves 10:31 cait just got out of the weekly koha meeting :) 10:41 magnuse alive? ;-) 10:53 ashimema morning 10:54 magnuse kia ora ashimema 10:54 magnuse ashimema: did you get the @later from pianohacker and why are you missing from the marseille spreadsheet? ;-) 10:57 ashimema skI did indeed :) 10:58 ashimema Still need to book my accommodation for hackfest.. been debating how long I should come with bubs on the way very soon. 10:58 ashimema also.. need to poke Colin and Alex to register properly.. alex at least is all booked. 10:58 magnuse yay 10:58 magnuse bubs? 10:59 magnuse oh well, lunchtime 10:59 wahanui lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting 10:59 magnuse it sure is 11:03 ashimema bubs, english slang term for baby 11:05 ashimema silyl question.. do we use modal dialogue in koha staff client anywhere.. I can't think of any at the minute? 11:05 ashimema I thoug the select library peice might be a modal.. but it appears not :( 11:29 magnuse ah, congrats! 11:30 magnuse i can't think of any modals 11:34 Joubu ashimema: yep, I used it for bug 11395 11:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Batch modifications for records 11:34 Joubu git grep GB_showCenter 11:34 ashimema cheers Joubu.. 11:35 ashimema they're relatively easy to get your head around.. just wanted ot make sure I was following our own style :) 11:35 ashimema I'm all for keeping code relatively standardised ;) 12:10 kivilahtio when was the Koha hackfest? 12:10 kivilahtio ashimema: what do you mean with "modal"? 12:10 kivilahtio I already got the link but misplaced it :( 12:10 ashimema modal.. a dialogue that pops up 12:10 ashimema http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/javascript.html#modals 12:11 kivilahtio thanks 12:11 ashimema no worries 12:11 magnuse kivilahtio: the hackfest is 2. - 6. march 12:11 kivilahtio ok. I need to write a travel permission request 12:11 kivilahtio magnuse: can you post the link again? 12:18 magnuse kivilahtio: i think this is the most official: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2014-December/041008.html 12:18 magnuse no blog post yet, i thinl 12:19 magnuse or think 12:25 kivilahtio thanks! 12:29 magnuse kia ora tcohen 12:29 magnuse we'll be staying at the same hotel in marseille :-) 12:32 kivilahtio I might go to hotel sylvabelle again :) 12:32 kivilahtio if it is still standing :) 12:33 magnuse they might have torn it down because you stayed there? ;-) 12:33 kivilahtio magnuse: well.. ... 12:34 kivilahtio you got me there 12:37 tcohen morning magnuse 12:37 tcohen YAY 12:38 ashimema ? 12:47 * cait waves 12:50 * magnuse waves 12:50 ashimema may get you to test some stuff for accessibility at some point if that's ok cait.. not for a while though ;) 12:51 ashimema Or perhaps you could talk me through what to look for.. I'm never all that good at that side of stuff 13:06 tcohen hi cait 13:13 Joubu khall: did you see my comments on bug 13040 before you changed the status? 13:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Failed QA , Improve exporter to allow multiple branch selections 13:14 khall Joubu: you mean the checkbox/select issue? 13:15 Joubu khall: yep 13:16 Joubu What is your thinking about that? 13:16 khall yeah, I didn't weigh in because koha-qa failed before I even got to look at it. TT invalid errors 13:16 Joubu k 13:17 Joubu khall: Actually I let the status to SO, to get other QA pov, maybe should have switched to in discusion 13:17 khall Joubu: I'd think your plugin with the checkboxes may work, but I think we'd need to A/B both variations. The one strong point of the checkboxes is we could *possibly* restyle them to not be a long list. 13:18 khall however, since I didn't even see it in action, I'm unable to make that call. 13:18 khall let me see if I can fix up the failures 13:27 khall Joubu: can you point me to the code where you make use of the select with checkboxes? I know it was in the system prefs, but I can recall exactly where it is 13:27 khall s/can/cannot 13:30 Joubu khall: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences.tt search for "multiple" 13:30 khall thanks! 13:30 Joubu khall: commit 2a69a2c826c91258728a2bd5b4be3316a43a0f3 13:30 cait ashimema: i can't test myself - we asked the library to do that in the past 13:30 cait but let's talk about it and see what i can do 13:37 magnuse http://www.sub.su.se/home/news/blog/2015/january/stockholm-university-library-chooses-koha/ <-- now with a longer summary in english! 13:38 magnuse sub++ 13:42 khall Joubu: I'd say it doesn't look to great with the multi-select plugin: http://content.screencast.com/users/kylemhall/folders/Jing/media/b8157ad1-8c96-4a7e-a007-c4597d4b5fe2/00000013.png 13:47 fridolin me releasing 3.14.13 13:47 tcohen fridolin++ 13:48 fridolin FYI Bug 12428 was passed QA. since it was made not for master but 3.16 and below i've set its status to "pushed to stable" 13:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 13:57 magnuse fridolin++ 13:59 cait khall: maybe just needs an align left? 13:59 oleonard Hi #koha 14:04 cait hi oleonard 14:05 khall cait: yeah, but there are other potential problems as well, I left a not on the bug 14:05 cait oleonard: what do you think about bug 13040? 14:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , Improve exporter to allow multiple branch selections 14:05 khall oleonard: see http://content.screencast.com/users/kylemhall/folders/Jing/media/b8157ad1-8c96-4a7e-a007-c4597d4b5fe2/00000013.png for other option 14:05 cait hm which versions released now since yesterday? 14:06 cait do we have a 3.16? 14:09 oleonard I like the simpler solution better. I don't think this needs a multi-select. 14:09 oleonard I don't have 40 branches in my test system, but I would think it would scale up just fine 14:12 Joubu khall: it's weird, the pref display looks good 14:13 khall yeah, not sure what's going on there 14:13 Joubu khall: did you include the css file? 14:13 khall yep 14:17 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza 14:32 ashimema oleonard.. any thoughts on hinting regarding inline editing? 14:32 ashimema the quotes editor gives a wordy description.. 14:32 ashimema above the table 14:33 oleonard ashimema: meaning, How to make it clear to the user that something is editable inline? 14:33 ashimema yup 14:34 oleonard khall, Joubu: Lots of export checkboxes with some style added: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14220235556056 14:34 khall oleonard++ ! 14:34 khall that looks great! 14:34 ashimema in most other apps I work with the majority of the interface is editable inline.. so we just 'hint' that something is or is not editable by adding a underline or similar 14:35 fridolin 3.14.13 is out 14:35 khall love the Arkansas line! ; ) 14:35 ashimema :) 14:35 ashimema did HEA make it in? 14:35 Joubu oleonard: looks beter, thanks! 14:35 oleonard khall: Just showing what it would look like with a long branch name ;) 14:35 * oleonard has never actually been to Arkansas 14:36 khall that's what I figured ; ) 14:37 oleonard ashimema: I think inline editing is still new interface territory. I don't think there is an established pattern that many users will have encountered 14:37 ashimema k 14:37 oleonard ashimema: My instinct would be to seek out good examples outside of Koha 14:37 ashimema I'll stick some hinting in, and add a description below too 14:38 ashimema I have good examples outside.. it was more inside koha I was interested in ;) 14:38 ashimema and of course.. koha has no inline editing.. (bar quotes) 14:53 cait hi atheia :) 15:27 * jcamins sings the IE song. 15:27 jcamins ie-- 15:27 jcamins ie-- 15:27 jcamins ie-- 15:27 jcamins ie-- 15:27 jcamins ie-- 15:27 jcamins ie-- 15:27 jcamins ^^ the song 15:27 Joubu ie-- 15:27 jcamins @karma ie 15:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 18 times for a total karma of -18. 15:30 Joubu khall: Is there something voted about tidying files? I don't understand why you tidied request.pl on bug 13517. 15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13517 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Show waiting date on reserve/request.pl 15:32 khall I was under the understanding that tidying became a non-issue when we discovered git can ignore whitespace changes for blaming 15:32 khall really, I tidy'd it because it was hard to read in its original form 15:33 Joubu I am not sure it's a good idea, it will cause conflicts on other patches 15:34 Joubu moreover the indentation is quite correct on this file 15:40 cait jcamins: nice photo :) 15:41 cait khall: i think perltidy can also change how the lines break - so that -w wouldn't help in that case 15:42 khall cait: in some cases, but by largely it's just whitespace 15:49 bag khall: did piano submit some of that api and angular circ yesterday night? 15:50 khall not sure, I'll have to look into it 15:52 khall not that I'm seeing 16:05 cma Hi all--would someone be able to clue me in as to why facets would be completely missing from the catalog in a "fresh" dev install of 3.18.2? I say "fresh" because I'm upgrading from 3.01 so I ported my database. 16:05 cma What's weird is they're there on my test server. 16:06 khall cma: are you set for dom indexing, or grs? 16:07 cma dom, because the installer saidgrs is deprecated 16:07 cma said grs, that is 16:08 cma and I'm following my install notes from the test server, so it should be the same. Is there a syspref or cronjob involved? I don't recall having to do anything to make it work on the test server, but I haven't set up any cronjobs yet on this server. 16:09 khall cma: go to the about page in the staff side, see what it says about your facets 16:11 reiveune bye 16:11 cma i don't see anything at all in there about facets 16:11 khall I was thinking maybe it was the new zebra facets 16:13 khall do you have <use_zebra_facets>1</use_zebra_facets> in your koha conf? 16:14 cma maybe you're right...on the *test* server under System information it says "The <use_zebra_facets> entry is missing in your configuration file. Falling back to legacy facet calculation." 16:14 cma On the new server it says nothing on that tab. 16:16 khall cma: are they running the same version of koha? 16:17 cma yeah. 3.18.02.000 16:18 cma but the test server was running master for a while, so it might have been installed before the new zebra facets were added, hence the missing config entry 16:19 khall that would make sense 16:40 cma ah-ha--I think this is what I need. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing Thanks khall for the clue! 16:40 khall np! 16:58 jcamins cait: thanks. 19:42 mtompset Greetings, #koha. :) 20:30 mtompset Have a great weekend, #koha.