Time Nick Message 22:36 cait np :) 22:36 aleisha yep was good thanks cait! 22:34 cait hope it works 22:34 cait :) 22:30 rangi cait: yep back it's aleisha who would like to know :) 22:29 * dcook hasn't had breakfast yet.. 22:29 dcook Like they're dancing! 22:29 dcook It does make your hands look kind of cool on the keyboard though 22:29 dcook I suppose + is not so great either.. 22:28 dcook Like tilde and backtick... those aren't that comfortable 22:28 dcook Some of the special character used to trip me up when speed typing... 22:28 dcook Hmm, I think alphanumeric stuff is usually all right 22:27 wizzyrea shift + x, i'm contending, is a hard key combo to type. 22:27 cait ok, now oyu lost me 22:26 dcook I was just thinking that 22:26 wizzyrea of course, that implies the privilege of qwerty keyboarding. 22:25 wizzyrea *snerk* 22:25 dcook "Breaking news". Hehe. It's funny on multiple levels... 22:25 * wizzyrea declares herself world champion 22:25 wizzyrea but mine is "because lazy" so I think I win. 22:25 wizzyrea your reason is good too. 22:24 wizzyrea besides that you have to hit shift to reach a key combination that is on weak fingers on the non-dominant hand of most of the population? 22:24 cait X looks like roman 10 to me :) 22:24 eythian in mathematics, the standard variable is x, not X. 22:24 wizzyrea do you have a more considered reason for preferring .x to .X 22:23 eythian heh 22:23 eythian oh 22:23 eythian .x? 22:23 eythian (mostly because talking would be easier then) 22:23 wizzyrea come on, we are virtuous lazy people here 22:23 wizzyrea ffs, if you .x then you don't have to hit shift. 22:23 eythian get rid of gendered nouns, then we can talk! 22:22 eythian hey, whose language is this! 22:20 cait betterer? :) 22:19 cait just checking 22:19 cait um. 22:16 eythian does it look like it isn't? 22:16 cait is that an agreement? 22:16 eythian that's more betterer still 22:16 cait 3.2+ 22:15 cait eythian: i agree - but we are trying something new 22:14 eythian http://i.imgur.com/Nnswh8i.jpg <-- breaking news! 22:12 * dcook goes back into the shadows :p 22:12 dcook 3.x does seem better than 3.X 22:03 eythian there, now I still have an excuse. 22:03 eythian <pedant> 22:03 eythian no wait 22:02 eythian </pedant> 22:02 eythian It seems more correct. 22:02 eythian hmm, I prefer 3.x to 3.X when used as a wildcard. 21:55 cait 7143 21:55 eythian cait: why do you need to know that, anyway? 21:55 eythian he's in a meeting 21:54 cait thx! 21:54 cait rangi: are you still around? 21:54 eythian cait: 3.2 21:54 cait thx :) 21:54 eythian just finding out 21:54 cait which koha version is that? 21:53 eythian Mon Jul 19 17:41:05 2010 +1200 21:53 eythian roughly since commit a1011ad I think 21:52 cait a while won't work here 21:52 eythian a while 21:52 eythian umm 21:52 wahanui which version is, like, recommended 21:52 cait which version? 21:52 cait eythian: how long have you been packaging manager? 21:52 eythian a bit cooler here right now, too 21:52 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on January 21, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 21:52 eythian @wunder nzwn 21:48 cait and it was cold today 21:48 cait back home 21:47 eythian how's the travels, cait 21:47 * cait waves back 21:35 * wizzyrea waves hello 21:25 eythian hi 20:58 cait [off] z3950n.bsz-bw.de:20210 utf-8 marc21 database: swb104 20:57 cait one sec 20:57 cait hm yes 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11961 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Needs Signoff , Add a "Z39.50 search" button to the authority creation and modfication forms. 20:56 rangi we could use to test bug 11961 ? 20:56 rangi anyone know any authority search targets? 20:56 rangi morning 19:32 cait i left a comment and failed it - hope you agree :) 19:32 oleonard Yeah adding it back would not be good. 19:28 cait it seems the patch adds it back, Joubu left a comment 19:27 cait you can almost count on me getting th efirst bug number wrong always :) 19:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13364 enhancement, P3, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , Add a call number browser in item edition page 19:27 cait bug 13364 19:27 cait h sorry... not that one 19:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13301 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Call number link in search results is broken 19:26 cait bug 13301 19:26 oleonard Yes 19:25 cait oleonard: tablesorter plugin - did we get rid of that? 19:05 druthb cait! 18:55 cait hi tcohen 18:52 cait probably the same thing happening all the time i guess 18:51 cait oleonard: down again? 18:49 wahanui http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise 18:49 oleonard And http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 18:30 aleino http://es.koha-community.org/manual/master/en/manual.pdf is still down :( 17:26 gaetan_B bye 16:12 Guest2604 Cheers everyone 16:12 Guest2604 But if linode is that cheap, I may look into it for something of my own (thanks again). 16:06 Guest2604 Not a bad idea, though there are other decisions already in play. We'll be installing the server in a rack with other devices already running etc. 16:05 druthb Also, scalable. You could get a bottom-end machine for 20 bucks a month, upgrade on the fly as needed. 16:05 druthb You could also, if your IT policy allows, use a VPS service, like Linode. I use them for my personal space, and dev work I've done in the past on Koha. Cheap-cheap, and they are uber-reliable. 16:04 Guest2604 I think we'll have about 1 Tb of storage, plus backup 16:04 druthb Sure thing. :) 16:04 reiveune bye 16:04 Guest2604 Thanks druthb 15:59 druthb you've got a ton of room for compromise, if the budgeters spaz out—quad core, less RAM (down to 8 GB or so)… As a special library, your big need isn't gonna be high traffic, but lots of storage space. 15:58 druthb rambutan++ 15:58 Guest2604 Great 15:58 saa is it possible to get barocde in this way 15:57 rambutan If the budget people are ok with that stand fast. 15:57 Guest2604 Thank you 15:57 Guest2604 haha 15:57 druthb You *could* dial back—but no one's twisting your arm. 15:57 saa i want to have barcode numbers as text and number in the order we want for eg NDAA1 15:57 Guest2604 Ok, so we should dial back some perhaps? 15:57 druthb That's pretty powerful—you could run a pretty darn big library with that. 15:56 rambutan Hey, I want a couple of those! 15:55 Guest2604 My tech people are asking me about RAM and processing specs for our new linux server. We are a special library in DC. What do you think about 32Gb RAM and Xenon E5 CPU, 8 cores. Somewhere in the 2.4-2.8 GHz range processing? 15:52 Guest2604 I have a question though 15:50 Guest2604 Yep 15:50 Guest2604 IDENTIFY JesseL 15:50 JesseM :) 15:50 JesseM Too many Jesse's 15:50 Guest2604 IDENTIFY Jesse 14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions 14:24 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 13196 - "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions 14:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #55: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/55/ 13:56 magnuse cool 13:56 oleonard A day honoring Martin Luther King Jr. 13:55 magnuse oleonard: what was the occasion? 13:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 13:39 oleonard It was a busy Bugzilla weekend (which was a long one for most of us Americans) 13:08 * magnuse has seen the sun today, though 13:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 13:08 magnuse @wunder boo 12:59 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -0.8°C (7:59 AM EST on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 12:59 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:59 kivilahtio ho oleonard 12:52 oleonard Hi #koha 12:04 kivilahtio https://renki.vaarakirjastot.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac/ilsdi.pl 12:04 liw kivilahtio, I have not heard this 12:03 kivilahtio its freaking awesome. 12:03 kivilahtio Did I say how proud I am that Koha has ILS-DI support? 12:03 kivilahtio Did I tell how cool the ILS-DI is? 11:38 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:38 Joubu @later tell rangi dashboard is down again :-/ 11:38 Joubu dashboard is down again 10:38 huginn gaetan_B: The operation succeeded. 10:38 gaetan_B @later tell tcohen have you seen Bernardo recently? he hasn't showed up in a while it seems. 10:37 gaetan_B yep i'll ask tcohen 10:23 magnuse tcohen will probably know, when he wakes up 10:09 gaetan_B (i emailed him to create a pootle account but got no answer) 10:09 gaetan_B anyone heard from him? 10:08 gaetan_B seems to be no... 10:08 huginn gaetan_B: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 3 days, 15 hours, 29 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tcohen++ 10:08 gaetan_B @seen bgkriegel 10:08 gaetan_B !seen bgkriegel 10:08 gaetan_B have we seen Bernardo recently? 09:01 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:01 Joubu @later tell ashimema Does the status for bug 13596 should be NSO? 08:57 Joubu ashimema: aound? 08:57 Joubu yop 08:39 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:39 gaetan_B hello 08:02 fridolin hie all 07:58 wahanui hola, alex_a 07:58 alex_a bonjour 07:41 wahanui bidet, reiveune 07:41 reiveune hello 06:17 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -2.0°C (7:00 AM CET on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Falling). 06:17 magnuse @wunder boo 06:16 * magnuse waves 05:50 mtj rangi: abouty for a BZ Q? 04:49 cait bye 04:39 eythian fair enough 04:39 eythian heh 04:38 cait the day will show it 04:38 cait hard to tell :) 04:38 cait hmm 04:37 eythian anywhere interesting? 04:36 cait yeah travelling again 04:36 eythian you're awake early 04:36 eythian hi cait 04:32 cait hmcould be worse i guess 04:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 0.8°C (5:32 AM CET on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 04:32 cait @wunder Konstanz 04:32 cait hi #koha 03:43 dcook ta 03:43 dcook Got2go though! 03:43 dcook Probably 03:14 wizzyrea they never grew up? 03:13 dcook So what's the excuse for adults? :p 03:13 dcook hehe 03:12 wizzyrea (yes, even mine.) 03:11 wizzyrea kids have underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes = kids are dicks. 03:11 dcook Especially in regards to private vs public school kids.. 03:10 dcook Mind you, that might be parents' perceptions of cool... 03:10 wizzyrea it would have been nice for the beach, except for the sandblasting. 03:10 dcook ibeardslee: I think that starts at birth :p 03:10 wizzyrea not unusually windy, but still windy. 03:10 dcook One of the cats almost lost his cool... panting something fierce. Poor guy. 03:10 wizzyrea it was SO windy. 03:10 dcook Very warm all weekend here too :( 03:09 eythian it was warm all weekend here, but very windy which meant I couldn't go biking like I intended. 03:09 dcook Grrr... I wish the rainy clouds had stayed... 03:09 * dcook looks outside 03:09 dcook I hope that's not right.. 03:09 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (2:00 PM AEDT on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 03:09 dcook @wunder syd 03:08 wizzyrea but yeah, that starts sooner than any of us would like. 03:08 wizzyrea well temperature wise. 03:08 ibeardslee is that something he really needs to worry about at his age - being 'cool'? 03:07 wizzyrea I hope it was cool. 03:07 * wizzyrea tries to recall what she sent the sprog to holiday program wearing 03:07 wizzyrea that is very warm. 02:38 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on January 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 02:38 eythian @wunder nzwn 02:32 eythian but that's not necessary 02:32 eythian in the example code, they always use the handle that is returned 02:32 cjh_ I was just reading through the docs for it trying to work out if it would work 02:32 eythian the example code implied that it wouldn't work how I wanted it to. 02:31 eythian but Test::MockModule just works 02:31 eythian I don't quite understand it 02:31 eythian oh 02:30 eythian it doesn't make sense for it to be impossible, otherwise you could never mock the dependencies of another module. 02:29 dcook I think I've wanted to do that but figured it was unpossible 02:27 eythian /kcik cjh_ no swearing, this is a family channel 02:27 cjh_ eythian: have a module with the same name earlier in the perl path ? 02:27 eythian (i.e. I want to replace the C4::Auth that C4::Service loads with one of my own creation) 02:26 eythian that gets loaded from somewhere else 02:26 eythian how do I override a module 02:26 eythian hmm 02:26 tcohen night everyone 02:24 eythian I'd wanted to include that in the tests 02:24 * eythian mocks C4::Auth 02:24 eythian screw it 02:24 dcook :S 02:23 eythian (error includes authentication)( 02:22 eythian if there's an error, it just bails with exit 02:21 eythian this is C4::Service 02:21 * tcohen recalls Auth.pm contained such things 02:20 eythian (I didn't write it, I just changed things.) 02:20 eythian yes, but I don't have the time to fix it. 02:20 * tcohen thinks it sounds like code that needs to be thought a bit more about 02:19 eythian and means I can't readily work out the SQL that it'd be running in order to mock it. 02:18 eythian which is bad 02:18 eythian it uses 'exit' 02:18 eythian or at least, hard to test 02:18 eythian arg this code is untestable 02:07 jcamins tcohen: that's it. 02:07 tcohen oops 02:07 tcohen zebra::meta::sysno 01:58 tcohen the guys have used Test::DBIx or smth similar for DBIx::Class 01:58 eythian tcohen: OK, I'll have a look. ta 01:57 tcohen eythian: I recall doing some on Calendar.t 01:30 eythian tcohen: is there a guide to mocking database calls for building tests anywhere? 00:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra 00:54 dcook bug 11096 00:54 dcook Ah, 3.16 00:50 dcook Ah, should've checked the times on the scrollback.. 00:48 dcook I want to say it was after 3.14.5? 00:47 dcook I'm curious when the fix for oversize MARC records was added... 00:47 dcook Mmm tcohen, can I ask you a quick question?