Time Nick Message
23:50 dcook hehe
23:50 wizzyrea that is terrifying and adorable all at once.
23:48 eythian http://i.imgur.com/z4qkBNd.gifv
23:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #32 1 day 0 hr ago)
23:46 cait good night all
23:46 cait big thank you to the academy students, awesome job this week!
23:41 wizzyrea just thought I'd ask.
23:40 wizzyrea that's ok
23:40 cait well i have never seen it :(
23:40 cait back then
23:40 cait nd the rnewal went only into suggestions...
23:40 cait not sure
23:39 wizzyrea it's so annoying.
23:39 wizzyrea I think it has something to do with legacy data but I'm not sure what
23:39 wizzyrea this is an old, old koha
23:38 cait cold=code
23:38 cait i don't see how it would be possible, unless some old cold about hte renewal got ...
23:38 cait but i think we have broken that a longer time ago
23:38 cait there used to be a link between acq andserial when you rnewed it
23:37 cait can you give information to what kind of thing it did?
23:37 cait ugh?
23:36 wizzyrea cait - have you seen a behaviour, ever, where receiving a serial creates multiple entries in acquisitions?
23:35 dcook Of course I'm on hold again, but now the music is way better
23:34 dcook ta pianohacker
23:34 pianohacker bye all :)
23:33 dcook huzzah! finally a pickup
23:32 cait late answer: twitter :)
23:32 cait :)
23:29 cait heh
23:28 wizzyrea yes, they do look delish.
23:28 wizzyrea oh THOSE cupcakes!
23:27 * dcook grumbles
23:27 dcook Bam. 24/7 support.
23:27 dcook Have it available and never answer it
23:27 dcook Just never answer your phone
23:27 dcook I think that's the key to 24/7 support services
23:27 * dcook wonders if this tech support line will ever actually pick up
23:27 wizzyrea where are you seeing the cupcakes?
23:26 wizzyrea I'm in.
23:26 wizzyrea wat there are cupcakes?
23:26 dcook Did someone say cupcakes?
23:26 cait wizzyrea: those cupcakes look great
23:25 dac hey cait
23:25 pianohacker hi cait
23:25 * cait waves
23:25 wizzyrea yeah truf.
23:25 dac Right now I would settle for reliable internet...
23:24 wizzyrea :)
23:24 dac hehe
23:24 wizzyrea time for civil disobedience?
23:24 dac wizzyrea: unfortunately, the authorities are the ones often running IE less than 9 :p
23:24 wizzyrea hi Francesca :)
23:24 dac yo Francesca
23:24 Francesca hi everyone!
23:24 dac ^
23:24 wizzyrea using a version of IE less than 9 is a menace to society, and those computers running it should be forcibly upgraded to firefox.
23:22 * Francesca waves
23:17 pianohacker I may be the slowest person on the internet but I'm laughing really hard at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmU-Bmk4Wrk
23:11 dcook hey cait :)
23:11 cait hi #koha
23:10 dcook Are you sure? Because the exact same music and friendly advice is starting to get to me.
23:10 dcook "Your call is progressing"
23:10 dcook It's sad making
23:10 pianohacker heh, yes ;)
23:10 * dcook points to the PM ;)
23:10 dcook IE7 :(
23:10 pianohacker dcook: what IE versions?
23:09 dcook I've been on hold for over 20 minutes, and I can't imagine I'm going to be talking to a human any time soon
23:09 dcook I need to take a note out of the pages of other technical support lines
23:08 dcook Well, maybe I do look forward to that day... so that people finally upgrade their IE
23:08 dcook Although I don't look forward to the day where we start using libraries that I can't hack minorly...
23:07 dcook I suppose the thing will be... even if the community doesn't support IE, I'll certainly be writing fixes forever :p
23:07 dcook We have a fair number of people using IE for the staff client, so that's where I spend a reasonable amount of time when upgrading versions
23:07 pianohacker those who have been more actively involved in recent times are free to contradict me on that one :)
23:06 dcook I can't say I've ever heard that, but I could see that certainly being the standard
23:06 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
23:06 dcook Interesting!
23:06 dcook Which is what we do for DSpace 4.x
23:06 pianohacker dcook: last I heard, official policy was "Firefox always, chrome hopefully, IE no" for the staff side and "everything possible" for the OPAC
23:06 dcook Even Bootstrap 3 has some extra goodies you can use to support IE 7
23:06 dcook Although we're still on Bootstrap 2 which supports IE7 at the least
23:05 dcook I think Bootstrap 3 has support for IE8 at the lowest
23:05 dcook I guess we don't officially?
23:05 dcook But yeah. Mmm, I imagine we support... I don't even know
23:05 dcook Although I think I'm mostly just bitter after debugging Java the other day. Oh the pain...
23:05 pianohacker true fact
23:04 dcook Well, Java hates everything :p
23:04 pianohacker except haskell and something else (Go or Java?)
23:04 dcook Actually, I think pretty much everything ever lets you use trailing commas with exploding
23:04 dcook Of course when I'm creating hashes in Perl, I love leaving trailing commas
23:03 dcook Yeah, I'm familiar with that one :/
23:03 pianohacker see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5036618/does-internet-explorer-9-choke-on-extra-commas-at-the-end-of-array-and-object-li
23:03 pianohacker ha! probably :)
23:02 pianohacker curious if we might be able to drop http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#JS6:_Trailing_comma_in_a_reference_list soonish
23:02 * dcook thinks this is the moment where someone points to dcook and says whatever he patches :p
23:02 pianohacker what IE versions do we support?
22:39 wizzyrea eythian++
22:39 wizzyrea yeah totes.
22:38 dcook I think I have every nick possible out at this point :p
22:33 rangi eythian++ #good reply
22:28 LordVoldemort hi francesca
22:20 wizzyrea pianohacker++
22:20 wizzyrea ^ this is a really excellent nerdy joke
22:20 pianohacker so I thought you had a problem with their ${PATH}finding :)
22:19 pianohacker oh, heh. spent a lot of time in fallout new vegas picking off angry irradiated animals that really wanted to get to me. So badly, in fact, that they were going to run straight into a cliff for as long as it took
22:19 * dcook pretends that he didn't see OpenTTD
22:19 dcook Oh my...
22:18 dcook wizzyrea: both
22:18 wizzyrea oh dear.
22:18 eythian I rediscovered OpenTTD the other day, there went my evening.
22:18 wizzyrea or both
22:18 wizzyrea the xbox? or skyrim?
22:17 dcook Bought an xbox a week before I moved to 'straya, played it for a week, and never saw it again
22:17 dcook Wish that I had longer to play that game
22:17 dcook ^
22:17 wizzyrea something about "I symlinked my steam library and I took an arrow to the knee?"
22:16 pianohacker bethesda's high quality pathfinding?
22:15 dcook (Oh, there are so many jokes that could be made... especially inr eference to Skyrim...)
22:15 dcook I thought about trying to automate the path for a variable once...
22:14 dcook horribad indeed
22:14 dcook Oh wow...
22:12 wizzyrea oh. my.
22:12 dcook Too much scrollback, not enough sleep...
22:11 eythian https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 <-- beware, this is horribad
22:09 wizzyrea I sense an afternoon foray in my future.
22:08 eythian Bring me back some would you? ;)
22:08 wizzyrea \o/
22:08 eythian that's an idea I approve of.
22:07 wizzyrea I really want some frogurt.
22:07 wizzyrea less annoyed, anyway.
22:07 wizzyrea though now that I've learned how to only translate certain files, I feel happier.
22:06 wizzyrea seems better, as it doesn't do all files.
22:06 wizzyrea we all know how much I love custom translations
22:06 eythian I don't know if that'd be better or worse, tbh.
22:05 eythian it'd mean we could use custom themes instead of custom translations.
22:05 wizzyrea (I'm not really arguing with you, you're right. )
22:05 eythian you don't want to maintain copies of everything
22:05 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add ExpireReservesOnHolidays
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22:05 eythian what happens if you only change one file?
22:04 wizzyrea I might consider it messing up to not include all files >.> but that's not being very diplomatic and maybe a bit rude.
22:03 eythian if you mess up the custom theme, it'll still display messed up :)
22:03 eythian like some of our stuff does with lang
22:03 wizzyrea :)
22:03 wizzyrea eythian is much more diplomatic.
22:03 eythian wizzyrea: no, so you don't have to supply all files
22:03 eythian so, you only need to put the changed files into your new theme, and anything missing will fall back to the existing bootstrap|prog
22:03 wizzyrea so you can fall back on the default theme if *you* mess up your custom theme.
22:02 eythian It's probably in case you make a custom theme for some purpose
22:02 wizzyrea aw sad.
22:02 nengard and if so why is bootstrap an option along with prog?
22:02 LordVoldemort internet is down :(
22:02 nengard is it just a safety net
22:02 nengard eythian i'm still not sure i get it - is it there cause we didn't make sure that every page works in bootstrap?
22:01 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard: this might explain it, from the function that uses it." (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/368
22:01 wizzyrea It would be neat if you could add a link to the kohadevbox (https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox) from the "for developers" page (http://koha-community.org/get-involved/for-developers/)
22:01 LordVoldemort okay
22:00 eythian I'm not sure when that'd be useful
22:00 eythian nengard: it lets you fall back to another theme
21:58 wizzyrea LordVoldemort: the release team link goes to the wrong place on this page: http://koha-community.org/about/koha-project-organization/ it would be cool if you could make it point to the wiki, the link should be on the page you worked on yesterday
21:56 wizzyrea LordVoldemort: let me look...
21:55 nengard anyone know what the point of OPACFallback is ?
21:55 LordVoldemort wizzyrea is there anything more i can do for the website?
21:54 JesseM ok heading out for a bit
21:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add NotHighlightedWords
21:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #603: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/603/
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21:32 nengard hola
21:31 wahanui salut, eythian
21:31 eythian hi
21:26 * wizzyrea too, really
21:25 HarryDresden it's pretty awesome
21:25 HarryDresden LordVoldemort you might like the series
21:25 * Dyrcona doesn't need to change his name. He is legendary.
21:25 DarthVader haha
21:25 HarryDresden http://www.factpile.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/harry-dresden-vs-voldemort.png
21:24 HarryDresden there is a meme asking harry dresden v. lord voldemort
21:24 dumbledore keke
21:24 HarryDresden I'm a good guy
21:24 HarryDresden :)
21:24 HarryDresden Hell no - I'm a wizard who can woop you a**
21:24 HarryDresden OH NO!!!
21:24 LordVoldemort are you a villain too?
21:24 LordVoldemort I don't even know who Harry Dresden is
21:24 stormageddondarklordofall *snicker*
21:24 HarryDresden :)
21:23 stormageddondarklordofall :)
21:23 nengard HA
21:23 DarthVader :)
21:23 LordVoldemort I let myself in thanks
21:22 nengard YIKES who let LordVoldemort in???
21:21 nengard LOL
21:21 wnickc nengard: I've always been fabulous, the fame was inevitable
21:20 wizzyrea is the "development costs" section.
21:20 wizzyrea specifically of interest
21:20 wizzyrea with applicable stats, of course.
21:20 wizzyrea https://static1.squarespace.com/static/527b69fbe4b0febeee4fc9f7/t/54b80483e4b0f32f8253d06c/1421345934518/?format=1000w
21:20 wizzyrea I want to do something like this for Koha
21:20 wnickc huh? I am?
21:19 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update Add and delete budgets permission
21:19 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update notices templates
21:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #602: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/602/
21:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #602 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
21:14 nengard you're famous now :)
21:14 nengard wnickc !!
21:12 wizzyrea rangi++ that was a good laugh.
21:12 wizzyrea LOL!
21:10 wahanui http://demotivators.despair.com/demotivational/consultingdemotivator.jpg
21:10 rangi consultants?
21:09 wizzyrea much finger waggling.
21:09 wizzyrea chide chide chide
21:09 rangi wow rfid thread brings out the consultants
21:09 ibeardslee keep searching
21:08 wizzyrea sorry I couldn't find a rainbow butterfly unicorn sheltie.
21:08 wizzyrea https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906373_651329141656720_1165787811502762374_n.jpg?oh=40b8850dace1c9f481cde88973c1f82b&oe=55264E21 nengard
21:08 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ
21:08 rangi yeah buddy
21:06 wizzyrea that's better :D
21:06 wizzyrea nopetopus is <reply> http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-abandon-thread-avoid-do-not-want-no-nope-Nopetopus-octopus-run-away-GIF.gif
21:06 nengard no forgetting
21:06 nengard why?
21:06 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot nopetopus
21:06 wizzyrea forget nopetopus
21:06 wizzyrea aw forget nopetopus
21:06 nengard well okay then
21:05 wahanui http://img.ly/system/uploads/007/617/604/large_upload.jpg
21:05 nengard and dizzy from the tail end of a migraine
21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus?
21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus is <reply> http://img.ly/system/uploads/007/617/604/large_upload.jpg
21:05 * nengard is confused
21:05 wizzyrea oh that should be a thing.
21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus?
21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus would also be appropriate there
21:04 nengard love it
21:04 nengard LOL
21:04 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
21:04 nengard more marc????
21:04 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
21:04 rangi we should use more marc
21:04 rangi lets add more marc?
21:04 wizzyrea and a confetti throwing bot
21:04 nengard WOO HOO
21:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add norwegian prefs
21:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "add norwegian card preferences"
21:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add DefaultLongOverdue preferences
21:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #601: FIXED in 1 min 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/601/
21:04 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
21:04 wizzyrea he's full of nonsequiturs
21:04 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
21:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #601 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #599 31 min ago)
21:04 wizzyrea wahanui is a learning bot.
21:03 nengard :)
21:03 nengard it might be
21:03 wahanui ...but that is the intended behavior?...
21:03 nengard wahanui that is silly
21:02 nengard but i'm getting there
21:02 wahanui i heard document was not a stylesheet
21:02 nengard and document
21:02 nengard still got about 20 more patches to review
21:02 nengard okay i think the manual is fixed
21:01 nengard the disney thing
21:01 nengard which i think only rangi knows around here
21:01 wahanui eythian is an expert bot trainer
21:01 wizzyrea eythian?
21:00 * carmenh feels silly but she still loves Disney :D
21:00 wizzyrea could have been anybody really :)
21:00 nengard I bet rangi is the one who made the bot say that
21:00 carmenh lol
21:00 carmenh oops
21:00 wahanui rumour has it wizzyrea is silly
21:00 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
21:00 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:00 nengard rangi?
21:00 nengard see
21:00 carmenh lol ahhh
21:00 wahanui you are fast
21:00 nengard nengard?
21:00 nengard hehe
21:00 nengard someone programmed wahanui to say that about you
21:00 nengard carmenh you're talking to a bot :)
20:59 nengard hehe
20:57 wizzyrea partly cloudy, no chance of meatballs.
20:57 rangi hmm no huginn
20:57 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:57 rangi warm
20:55 carmenh how are things in NZ rangi :)
20:55 carmenh I had an internship there years ago :)
20:54 carmenh :D
20:54 carmenh I love Disney too wahanui
20:54 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron doc
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20:53 wahanui I LOVE DISNEY
20:53 rangi hey carmenh
20:52 wizzyrea no where :)
20:52 wizzyrea ftr, it's just: insert into biblio (select * from deletedbiblio where biblionumber=1)
20:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron
20:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron doc
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20:48 nengard somewhere i screwed up .... git isn't matching up
20:47 nengard hehe
20:45 wizzyrea afternoon, whatever.
20:45 wizzyrea nengard++ for like, 10 things this morning
20:42 nengard wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13589
20:39 nengard :)
20:39 nengard of course i'd leave out my typos
20:39 wizzyrea yeah that seems sensible to me
20:38 nengard i think that's all ... anyone disagree?
20:38 nengard delete from deletedbiblioitems where biblionumber=xxx
20:38 nengard insert into biblioitems where (select * from deletedbiblioitems wher ebiblionumber=xxx)
20:37 carmenh hiya rangi :D
20:37 nengard delete frmo deletedbiblio where biblionumber=xxx
20:37 nengard insert into biblio where (select * from deletedbiblio where biblionumber=xxx)
20:37 nengard okay - writing steps
20:36 nengard hehe
20:36 wizzyrea that part seems clear to me lol.
20:36 nengard it's not easy
20:36 wizzyrea can't say I've ever done this before.
20:35 wizzyrea hrm, what is the best way to restore a deleted biblio?
20:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AllowRenewalIfOtherItemsAvailable
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20:33 wizzyrea that was just looking at the script - it's in misc/cronjobs
20:33 wizzyrea or quiet
20:33 nengard updating the manual
20:33 wizzyrea don't think we need to set verbose from the interface
20:33 nengard thanks
20:33 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard - what longoverdue *can* take" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/367
20:31 nengard the perldoc is empty on this puppy
20:31 wizzyrea emmm
20:31 nengard are there any others missing?
20:31 nengard what other values are there?
20:31 wizzyrea oversight, prolly
20:30 wizzyrea not sure why it wasn't included, tbh
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20:30 nengard i can do that
20:30 wizzyrea yeah, should file a bug about that one
20:30 nengard like the --return (or whatever the value is)
20:30 nengard i wish it had all the values
20:30 nengard oh i agree 100%
20:27 wizzyrea in defense of the patch, it is nice to be able to specify longoverdue values from the interface.
20:23 nengard then i think what i wrote is okay
20:23 nengard got it
20:23 nengard hehe
20:21 wizzyrea which seems dumb but whatever.
20:21 wizzyrea the "I marked this lost in the interface" charging is dealt with somewhere else
20:20 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot cron
20:20 wizzyrea forget the cron
20:20 wahanui the cron is sending it to that? Sounds like a system problem, not koha.
20:20 wizzyrea the cron.
20:20 wizzyrea I think this particular patch deals only with items marked with longoverdue
20:19 wizzyrea ah that's alright
20:19 nengard ... and i'm way way way behind on the manual and that's why i'm briniging it all up now
20:19 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add norwegian card preferences
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20:19 nengard cause the following pref asks for the authorized value
20:19 nengard it should be just charge or don't
20:19 nengard cause if so it seems silly to have that preference the way it is
20:18 nengard is it just if the item changes to that value via the longoverdue?
20:18 nengard but i have another question
20:18 nengard okay - that's how i worded it in the manual
20:18 wizzyrea so when an item changes to that value, it gets charged.
20:18 wizzyrea they want the numeric value of the authorised value
20:18 wizzyrea it's different from the cron (sorry...)
20:17 wizzyrea so empty for no charge, and yeah I see what they've done here
20:17 wizzyrea - <br>Leave this field empty if you don't want to charge the user for lost items.
20:16 wizzyrea i'll have a quick look
20:16 nengard for now it's in the manual - or will be tomorrow - and then i'll update the bug report with a link
20:16 wizzyrea users don't understand 1/0
20:16 wizzyrea naw, you're probably right there, if it's 1/0 it should be labeled yes/no
20:16 nengard yup
20:16 wizzyrea sounds like a qa thing to me
20:15 nengard or maybe i'm overthinking it
20:15 nengard and if it's just 1 or 0 then it should be a Yes/No pull down ...
20:15 nengard but then the way it was worded made it sound like it wanted the authorized value
20:15 wizzyrea I think.
20:15 nengard yeah that's what i thought
20:15 wizzyrea that's what the cronjob used to ask for
20:14 wizzyrea 1 fo charge, 0 for don't charge.
20:14 wizzyrea nengard: probably 1 or 0
20:07 rangi no idea then
20:07 rangi ahh hmm
20:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron
20:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add DefaultLongOverdue preferences
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20:02 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:02 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
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19:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:52 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:52 nengard I'm looking at DefaultLongOverdueChargeValue
19:51 nengard that's for DefaultLongOverdueLostValue
19:51 nengard rangi that's for the other preference
19:51 rangi that help nengard ?
19:51 rangi <br>Example: [1] [30] Sets an item to the LOST value 1 when it has been overdue for more than 30 days
19:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #294: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/294/
19:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:50 nengard khall do you know ^^
19:49 nengard that's my guess
19:49 nengard what value am I putting in there? the lost authoritze value?
19:49 nengard can somoene tell me what the DefaultLongOverdueChargeValue preference is looking for?
19:48 nengard I don't see a test plan on this : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8337
19:43 rangi last day of the academy today :)
19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7996 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Patron Modification Log Requires Parameters Permission
19:43 rangi anyone around to do a quick test of bug 7996 ?
19:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #290: FIXED in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/290/
19:33 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:33 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #39: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/39/
19:11 rangi morning
18:57 tcohen bye everyone
18:50 tcohen I know it doesn't look like that :-P
18:50 tcohen mtj: i fixed u14 too
18:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
18:42 tcohen mtj: smae problem?
18:35 mtj ta, the ubuntu12 is now sorted... just the deb6 to go
18:29 ashimema hope you guys got jenkins fixed ;)
18:29 ashimema anywho.. one for tomorrow now me thinks
18:29 ashimema and a bit easier than using jeditable
18:29 ashimema oh well.. the one you've spotted looks pretty reasonable ;)
18:29 ashimema sad
18:29 ashimema .. then when i went to check a piece of the docs I saw the purchase link :(
18:28 ashimema as the rest of MIT I also thought it was MIT
18:28 ashimema I didn't spot the purchase before I started working with the code..
18:28 ashimema yeah.. exactly..
18:28 mtj yeah, pass on that ^
18:28 mtj http://editor.datatables.net/purchase/index
18:26 ashimema that's more promising.
18:26 ashimema hadn't seen the New BSD licensed one you've found..
18:26 ashimema I was looking at http://editor.datatables.net/ mtj..
18:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U12 build #38: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U12/38/
18:25 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:25 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:09 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add cross link to opacprivacy
18:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #11: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.16.x/11/
18:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #11 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:07 tcohen i guess so
18:06 mtj the solr tests are failling without moose.pm - i could always just remove the tests :)
18:04 mtj thanks for your help
18:04 mtj no probs, tcohen
18:04 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add cross link to opacprivacy
18:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #596: SUCCESS in 1 min 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/596/
18:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #596 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:04 tcohen i need to be AFK for some time now
18:03 tcohen can u drop me an email about it?
18:03 tcohen mtj: that's because that dep was removed, and it uses koha-perldeps to pull them
18:02 mtj http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_D6/
18:02 mtj tcohen: the 3.16-deb6 box seems to be missing a Moose.pm dep (also failling)
17:57 mtj ok, i have a login, http://jenkins.koha-community.org/user/mtj@kohaaloha.com
17:52 tcohen you need a login
17:52 mtj i've never spotted it, myself
17:51 mtj tcohen: is there an option in jenkins, to trigger a build?
17:50 mtj awesome thanks
17:45 tcohen mtj: I triggered the build
17:42 mtj https://code.google.com/p/jquery-datatables-editable/
17:41 mtj New BSD License, ashimema?
17:41 ashimema dinner time now.. I bet someone else has made that mistake before.
17:41 ashimema oh well. back to manually adding jeditable calls to a datatables based table.. this should be 'fun'
17:40 * ashimema started to work with datatables.editable assuming that as it's on the same site and from the same people as datatables it had the same license
17:40 tcohen :(
17:40 tcohen how is that?
17:40 oleonard :(
17:40 * ashimema wants to cry...
17:38 tcohen try running it, you should see the updatedatabase.pl call make lots of updates
17:38 tcohen done
17:38 tcohen wip
17:36 mtj also.. no hurry :0)
17:33 mtj ah cool, lets try that then
17:33 tcohen i have a 3.12.0 dump there
17:33 tcohen it is
17:32 mtj tcohen: its a quick/easy thing to do?
17:32 mtj but, a fresh db sound good :)
17:31 mtj this is the 1st time i have this problem, with jenkins
17:31 mtj hmm, i think so
17:31 mtj looks like aqbooksellers table is missing the 'contact' column, on u12 box
17:31 tcohen a fresh DB?
17:30 tcohen what do u need mtj
17:30 mtj heya :)
17:30 tcohen hi mtj
17:29 mtj http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U12/34/
17:29 mtj DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'contact' in 'field list' at /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_3.16.x_U12/C4/Bookseller.pm line 194.
17:28 mtj the db seems to be missing a table column
17:28 mtj ..the ubuntu12 box has been failling for a while, on the 3.16 branch
17:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
17:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update anonymouspatron
17:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add note about reading history deleting
17:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #10: SUCCESS in 1 min 46 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.16.x/10/
17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #10 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:27 mtj hi tcohen, have you got a tic for a jenkins Q?
17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update anonymouspatron
17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add note about reading history deleting
17:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #595: SUCCESS in 3 min 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/595/
17:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #595 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:44 tcohen great
16:44 paul_p tcohen I've seen your email and fw: it to lds (laurent), our sysop
16:44 paul_p hi tcohen !
16:40 ashimema haev a good evening Joubu
16:39 Joubu see you tomorrow
16:39 Joubu I need to leave the computer :)
16:38 tcohen hehehe
16:37 Joubu looks like I confused everybody, even french people on the other chan
16:37 tcohen :D
16:36 tcohen yes, i'm only talking about "when can I push 13577"
16:36 Joubu hum
16:36 Joubu 3.19.00.006 had updated all tables present at the moment (with the ones updatedb by 13577 in kohastructure.sql)
16:36 tcohen i know, but I don't mean to say we need to patch updatedatabase.pl, at all!
16:35 Joubu tcohen: yes :) but no need to fix updatedb.pl
16:35 tcohen it patches kohastructure.sql
16:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE is not set to all DB tables
16:35 tcohen bug 13577 is signed-off, is anyone testing it so it gets passed-qa?
16:35 Joubu tcohen: the last updatedb entry is 11944, we don't need a followup for updatedb.pl
16:34 gaetan_B bye !
16:34 tcohen ok, now i have both of my hands available
16:33 Joubu end of the day here...
16:33 Joubu tcohen: Why do you want a followup?
16:32 tcohen nope, was just asking if someone is passing it, as it is a major one
16:31 Joubu tcohen: you meant I didn't link the right bug number in the new commit on the koha-qa repo?
16:30 Joubu tcohen: hum? Maybe I forgot mine (pill) but I don't understand...
16:30 ashimema cheers Joubu
16:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE is not set to all DB tables
16:28 tcohen Joubu: I think I was right, it is bug 13577
16:26 tcohen :-P
16:25 tcohen looks like I forgot to takr my pill today
16:22 Joubu tcohen: yes, it's pushed
16:21 tcohen Joubu: is the followup for kohastructure.sql ready?
16:20 Joubu tcohen: there is no check for updatedatabase.pl, so be aware :)
16:19 tcohen Joubu++
16:17 Joubu Qaers: I have added a new check for the charset collate in the koha-qa repo, please update your repo
16:03 reiveune bye
15:16 nlegrand gaetan_B: nice :)
15:15 ashimema ooh.. thanks Joubu
15:15 Joubu ashimema: head -n1 koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.dataTables.min.js
15:13 * cait likes sane
15:13 ashimema so we have all the 1.10 goodness.. i can make my service more sane :)
15:13 ashimema probably me just being blind
15:13 ashimema where does it say the verison btw.. I couldn't find it
15:12 ashimema awesome.. thqanks oleonard..
15:10 oleonard ashimema: 1.10.2
15:06 gaetan_B i do hope we'll get more work with them though, it has been one of my favourite projects last year
15:06 ashimema what datatables version are we running at the minute.. can't seem to find a version number
15:06 gaetan_B nlegrand: not completely, but i like to think that we helped in convincing them :)
14:58 paul_p hi #koha
14:41 cait wow cool
14:40 nlegrand gaetan_B: is that your work? :)
14:36 magnuse stockholm university library chooses Koha: http://www.sub.su.se/start/nyheter/blogg/2015/januari/stockholms-universitetsbibliotek-valjer-koha/ (they will be self hosting)
14:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update funds images
14:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
14:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #594: SUCCESS in 3 min 39 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/594/
14:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #594 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:43 barton anyway, I'm off to work tickets. ping me or @later me if you have further thoughts or comments.
13:41 magnuse barton++
13:40 barton Also, if someone could update http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Messaging_rewrite_RFC, that would be nice. Some of the changes have been made, others suggestions are obsolete. I'd like to make a link between Customising_Notices_and_Slips and the notifications RFC, but I don't want to do that until the latter has been brought into 2015.
13:33 cait hm not sure, it's for checkout and check-in slip - the DGST
13:28 barton Thanks. I'll have to look for that. I'm also missing the markup which uses '----' before and after a detail section. I think that might be in Circulation.pm
13:26 cait there is also <<today>> available on some slips
13:26 cait i'd like to try and add somet to it if i get the time
13:26 cait saw it last night, it's a good idea
13:26 cait barton: that's really nice
13:25 akafred Anyone know of anyone integrating Tagvision with Koha?
13:21 barton I'm soliciting for help on filling in the bottom part of the table: CHECKOUT, RENEWAL, TRANSFERSLIP, HOLD, HOLDPLACED, RESERVESLIP, ASKED, CHECKED, ACCEPTED, REJECTED, OPAC_REG_VERIFY.
13:18 oleonard barton++
13:16 barton I did a major overhaul on the 'Customizing Notices and Slips' page. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Customising_Notices_and_Slips#Notice_Markup
13:15 oleonard Hi barton and everyone
13:15 barton good morning #koha!
12:40 cait Joubu: sorry, was in a meeting all morning, reading back now
11:32 ashimema matts.. I've been meaning to test your CAS patches.. is there a CAS server I can use to test against anywhere?
11:06 slef hi all - is anyone using subjects organised into hierarchies? I thought I'd seen it before with careful cataloguing and authorities but it doesn't look documented anywhere obvious
11:04 ashimema wow.. that was built in 2012..
10:59 ashimema thanks magnuse
10:58 * magnuse wanders off to find lunch
10:58 magnuse not sure if that uses datatables, but it does have inline editing in the table
10:57 magnuse ashimema: maybe the quote of the day editor?
10:55 ashimema do we have any datatables with inline editing at all yet?
09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DataTables server-side processing - guarantor search
09:49 Joubu So after a quick look, it seems that the only real patch blocking the deletion of C4::SQLHelper is bug 13021
09:49 Joubu in C4::Members
09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12633 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members
09:49 Joubu The only blocker is bug 12633
09:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Needs Signoff , C4::SQLHelper should be removed
09:48 Joubu see bug 11385
09:48 Joubu be removed?
09:48 Joubu Do you know C4::SQLHelper is closed to
09:36 Joubu rangi: Does Aleisha still working on Hea?
09:31 magnuse ah, ok
09:24 rangi magnuse: you get 2 kittens for rescuing a patch
09:23 ashimema does Justins git-bz patch count perhaps magnuse.. I bet that wuoldn't show up
09:22 ashimema should be a simple one again
09:22 magnuse rangi: the numbers on the coreboard don't add up: 20 + 6 + 1 != 28
09:22 ashimema just added another Academy bug.. help get to that magic 30 ;)
09:22 rangi ill try to track it down tomorrow and add a new fail2ban rule to lock the ip out
09:21 rangi and then things like the dashboard, and logbot die
09:21 rangi and it maxes out connections to mysql
09:21 rangi something keeps hammering bugzilla
01:25 * eythian nukes it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
01:25 krumpingallthetime ?
01:25 wizzyrea retired. with a bullet.
01:24 wizzyrea <wide eyes>
01:24 * eythian hopes SQLHelper gets taken out back and quietly retired some time soon
01:23 eythian oh goody, C4::SQLHelper has its own memcache code which uses the koha-conf values, not the envvars like the entire rest of the codebase.
01:19 wizzyrea don't creep out our youngsters!
01:17 dcook Know what?
01:17 dcook Hmm?
01:17 anonymous wait dcook how did you know?
01:11 rangi yeah you could come in round lunch and stay for the presenations if you wanted
01:09 anonymous come for pizza
01:05 Francesca hey rangi I'm gonna be in town all day tomorrow. Do you guys need a hand at the academy or something? I know its the last day but I'm around so
01:04 Francesca I like the page
01:01 wizzyrea would seem to be going ok, http://scoreboard.koha-community.org
00:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12889: Updated pod for C4::Members::AddMember <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=124549b8abad24c5c506ab5962a75782067b2c9a>
00:52 Francesca hows the academy project week going?
00:52 wizzyrea hi there :)
00:52 Francesca hi wizzyrea!
00:51 * eythian points to the 'whois' command
00:51 * wizzyrea waves
00:51 * dcook goes back to juggling three bugs at once
00:50 dcook I suppose there could be a few Abbys...
00:50 Francesca if so hi anoymous
00:50 Francesca anoymous is abby doing the catalyst academy?
00:50 dcook Thanks for that sign off earlier :)
00:50 dcook Ah, anonymous is Abby?
00:49 anonymous be quiet?
00:49 anonymous anonymous?
00:49 wahanui anonymous?
00:49 anonymous wahanui?
00:48 anonymous omg shh
00:48 wahanui wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
00:48 anonymous wizzyrea?
00:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12850: C4::Serials::GetLateIssues can be removed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b19fd4b0db2ac641ebbbb1b0eeef9bcb4fdfd6e> / Bug 13537 - Focus should move to barcode after renewing via checkouts table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91f67dde130c1c5c34174a588696bad1286823ad> / Bug 13564: Items search: rename Stock number to Inventory number <http://git.koh
00:32 Francesca oh well
00:32 Francesca I dont think I know any sorry
00:31 rangi hmm i dont think so Francesca, unless you can think of some bugs that people could fix
00:21 Francesca hello! rangi is there anything I can help with?
00:20 wizzyrea oh look, it's needs signoff.
00:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Test mode for notices
00:20 wizzyrea bug 8000
00:19 wizzyrea "test mode for notices"
00:19 wizzyrea I agree, I filed a bug about that ages ago ;)
00:19 barton The other major problem with notices is that they're hard to test... it would be nice to be able to click a button and see what the generated notice looked like.
00:19 wizzyrea it would be good if a default letter, or the content of the default letter were added to every new cloned notice.
00:17 barton In any case, we need something powerful enough in the 'letter' templates that we don't have to write code every time we add a new letter. I only suggested TT because I know it's up to the task. The fifty zillion ways of representing details in messages gets very hard to support.
00:13 barton rangi -- couldn't agree more about functional logic in TT.