Time Nick Message 00:13 barton rangi -- couldn't agree more about functional logic in TT. 00:17 barton In any case, we need something powerful enough in the 'letter' templates that we don't have to write code every time we add a new letter. I only suggested TT because I know it's up to the task. The fifty zillion ways of representing details in messages gets very hard to support. 00:19 wizzyrea it would be good if a default letter, or the content of the default letter were added to every new cloned notice. 00:19 barton The other major problem with notices is that they're hard to test... it would be nice to be able to click a button and see what the generated notice looked like. 00:19 wizzyrea I agree, I filed a bug about that ages ago ;) 00:19 wizzyrea "test mode for notices" 00:20 wizzyrea bug 8000 00:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Test mode for notices 00:20 wizzyrea oh look, it's needs signoff. 00:21 Francesca hello! rangi is there anything I can help with? 00:31 rangi hmm i dont think so Francesca, unless you can think of some bugs that people could fix 00:32 Francesca I dont think I know any sorry 00:32 Francesca oh well 00:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12850: C4::Serials::GetLateIssues can be removed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b19fd4b0db2ac641ebbbb1b0eeef9bcb4fdfd6e> / Bug 13537 - Focus should move to barcode after renewing via checkouts table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91f67dde130c1c5c34174a588696bad1286823ad> / Bug 13564: Items search: rename Stock number to Inventory number <http://git.koh 00:48 anonymous wizzyrea? 00:48 wahanui wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. 00:48 anonymous omg shh 00:49 anonymous wahanui? 00:49 wahanui anonymous? 00:49 anonymous anonymous? 00:49 anonymous be quiet? 00:50 dcook Ah, anonymous is Abby? 00:50 dcook Thanks for that sign off earlier :) 00:50 Francesca anoymous is abby doing the catalyst academy? 00:50 Francesca if so hi anoymous 00:50 dcook I suppose there could be a few Abbys... 00:51 * dcook goes back to juggling three bugs at once 00:51 * wizzyrea waves 00:51 * eythian points to the 'whois' command 00:52 Francesca hi wizzyrea! 00:52 wizzyrea hi there :) 00:52 Francesca hows the academy project week going? 00:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12889: Updated pod for C4::Members::AddMember <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=124549b8abad24c5c506ab5962a75782067b2c9a> 01:01 wizzyrea would seem to be going ok, http://scoreboard.koha-community.org 01:04 Francesca I like the page 01:05 Francesca hey rangi I'm gonna be in town all day tomorrow. Do you guys need a hand at the academy or something? I know its the last day but I'm around so 01:09 anonymous come for pizza 01:11 rangi yeah you could come in round lunch and stay for the presenations if you wanted 01:17 anonymous wait dcook how did you know? 01:17 dcook Hmm? 01:17 dcook Know what? 01:19 wizzyrea don't creep out our youngsters! 01:23 eythian oh goody, C4::SQLHelper has its own memcache code which uses the koha-conf values, not the envvars like the entire rest of the codebase. 01:24 * eythian hopes SQLHelper gets taken out back and quietly retired some time soon 01:24 wizzyrea <wide eyes> 01:25 wizzyrea retired. with a bullet. 01:25 krumpingallthetime ? 01:25 * eythian nukes it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. 09:21 rangi something keeps hammering bugzilla 09:21 rangi and it maxes out connections to mysql 09:21 rangi and then things like the dashboard, and logbot die 09:22 rangi ill try to track it down tomorrow and add a new fail2ban rule to lock the ip out 09:22 ashimema just added another Academy bug.. help get to that magic 30 ;) 09:22 magnuse rangi: the numbers on the coreboard don't add up: 20 + 6 + 1 != 28 09:22 ashimema should be a simple one again 09:23 ashimema does Justins git-bz patch count perhaps magnuse.. I bet that wuoldn't show up 09:24 rangi magnuse: you get 2 kittens for rescuing a patch 09:31 magnuse ah, ok 09:36 Joubu rangi: Does Aleisha still working on Hea? 09:48 Joubu Do you know C4::SQLHelper is closed to 09:48 Joubu be removed? 09:48 Joubu see bug 11385 09:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Needs Signoff , C4::SQLHelper should be removed 09:49 Joubu The only blocker is bug 12633 09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12633 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members 09:49 Joubu in C4::Members 09:49 Joubu So after a quick look, it seems that the only real patch blocking the deletion of C4::SQLHelper is bug 13021 09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DataTables server-side processing - guarantor search 10:55 ashimema do we have any datatables with inline editing at all yet? 10:57 magnuse ashimema: maybe the quote of the day editor? 10:58 magnuse not sure if that uses datatables, but it does have inline editing in the table 10:58 * magnuse wanders off to find lunch 10:59 ashimema thanks magnuse 11:04 ashimema wow.. that was built in 2012.. 11:06 slef hi all - is anyone using subjects organised into hierarchies? I thought I'd seen it before with careful cataloguing and authorities but it doesn't look documented anywhere obvious 11:32 ashimema matts.. I've been meaning to test your CAS patches.. is there a CAS server I can use to test against anywhere? 12:40 cait Joubu: sorry, was in a meeting all morning, reading back now 13:15 barton good morning #koha! 13:15 oleonard Hi barton and everyone 13:16 barton I did a major overhaul on the 'Customizing Notices and Slips' page. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Customising_Notices_and_Slips#Notice_Markup 13:18 oleonard barton++ 13:21 barton I'm soliciting for help on filling in the bottom part of the table: CHECKOUT, RENEWAL, TRANSFERSLIP, HOLD, HOLDPLACED, RESERVESLIP, ASKED, CHECKED, ACCEPTED, REJECTED, OPAC_REG_VERIFY. 13:25 akafred Anyone know of anyone integrating Tagvision with Koha? 13:26 cait barton: that's really nice 13:26 cait saw it last night, it's a good idea 13:26 cait i'd like to try and add somet to it if i get the time 13:26 cait there is also <<today>> available on some slips 13:28 barton Thanks. I'll have to look for that. I'm also missing the markup which uses '----' before and after a detail section. I think that might be in Circulation.pm 13:33 cait hm not sure, it's for checkout and check-in slip - the DGST 13:40 barton Also, if someone could update http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Messaging_rewrite_RFC, that would be nice. Some of the changes have been made, others suggestions are obsolete. I'd like to make a link between Customising_Notices_and_Slips and the notifications RFC, but I don't want to do that until the latter has been brought into 2015. 13:41 magnuse barton++ 13:43 barton anyway, I'm off to work tickets. ping me or @later me if you have further thoughts or comments. 14:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #594 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #594: SUCCESS in 3 min 39 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/594/ 14:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 14:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update funds images 14:36 magnuse stockholm university library chooses Koha: http://www.sub.su.se/start/nyheter/blogg/2015/januari/stockholms-universitetsbibliotek-valjer-koha/ (they will be self hosting) 14:40 nlegrand gaetan_B: is that your work? :) 14:41 cait wow cool 14:58 paul_p hi #koha 15:06 gaetan_B nlegrand: not completely, but i like to think that we helped in convincing them :) 15:06 ashimema what datatables version are we running at the minute.. can't seem to find a version number 15:06 gaetan_B i do hope we'll get more work with them though, it has been one of my favourite projects last year 15:10 oleonard ashimema: 1.10.2 15:12 ashimema awesome.. thqanks oleonard.. 15:13 ashimema where does it say the verison btw.. I couldn't find it 15:13 ashimema probably me just being blind 15:13 ashimema so we have all the 1.10 goodness.. i can make my service more sane :) 15:13 * cait likes sane 15:15 Joubu ashimema: head -n1 koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.dataTables.min.js 15:15 ashimema ooh.. thanks Joubu 15:16 nlegrand gaetan_B: nice :) 16:03 reiveune bye 16:17 Joubu Qaers: I have added a new check for the charset collate in the koha-qa repo, please update your repo 16:19 tcohen Joubu++ 16:20 Joubu tcohen: there is no check for updatedatabase.pl, so be aware :) 16:21 tcohen Joubu: is the followup for kohastructure.sql ready? 16:22 Joubu tcohen: yes, it's pushed 16:25 tcohen looks like I forgot to takr my pill today 16:26 tcohen :-P 16:28 tcohen Joubu: I think I was right, it is bug 13577 16:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE is not set to all DB tables 16:30 ashimema cheers Joubu 16:30 Joubu tcohen: hum? Maybe I forgot mine (pill) but I don't understand... 16:31 Joubu tcohen: you meant I didn't link the right bug number in the new commit on the koha-qa repo? 16:32 tcohen nope, was just asking if someone is passing it, as it is a major one 16:33 Joubu tcohen: Why do you want a followup? 16:33 Joubu end of the day here... 16:34 tcohen ok, now i have both of my hands available 16:34 gaetan_B bye ! 16:35 Joubu tcohen: the last updatedb entry is 11944, we don't need a followup for updatedb.pl 16:35 tcohen bug 13577 is signed-off, is anyone testing it so it gets passed-qa? 16:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE is not set to all DB tables 16:35 tcohen it patches kohastructure.sql 16:35 Joubu tcohen: yes :) but no need to fix updatedb.pl 16:36 tcohen i know, but I don't mean to say we need to patch updatedatabase.pl, at all! 16:36 Joubu 3.19.00.006 had updated all tables present at the moment (with the ones updatedb by 13577 in kohastructure.sql) 16:36 Joubu hum 16:36 tcohen yes, i'm only talking about "when can I push 13577" 16:37 tcohen :D 16:37 Joubu looks like I confused everybody, even french people on the other chan 16:38 tcohen hehehe 16:39 Joubu I need to leave the computer :) 16:39 Joubu see you tomorrow 16:40 ashimema haev a good evening Joubu 16:44 paul_p hi tcohen ! 16:44 paul_p tcohen I've seen your email and fw: it to lds (laurent), our sysop 16:44 tcohen great 17:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #595 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #595: SUCCESS in 3 min 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/595/ 17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add note about reading history deleting 17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update anonymouspatron 17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 17:27 mtj hi tcohen, have you got a tic for a jenkins Q? 17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #10 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #10: SUCCESS in 1 min 46 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.16.x/10/ 17:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add note about reading history deleting 17:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update anonymouspatron 17:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 17:28 mtj ..the ubuntu12 box has been failling for a while, on the 3.16 branch 17:28 mtj the db seems to be missing a table column 17:29 mtj DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'contact' in 'field list' at /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_3.16.x_U12/C4/Bookseller.pm line 194. 17:29 mtj http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U12/34/ 17:30 tcohen hi mtj 17:30 mtj heya :) 17:30 tcohen what do u need mtj 17:31 tcohen a fresh DB? 17:31 mtj looks like aqbooksellers table is missing the 'contact' column, on u12 box 17:31 mtj hmm, i think so 17:31 mtj this is the 1st time i have this problem, with jenkins 17:32 mtj but, a fresh db sound good :) 17:32 mtj tcohen: its a quick/easy thing to do? 17:33 tcohen it is 17:33 tcohen i have a 3.12.0 dump there 17:33 mtj ah cool, lets try that then 17:36 mtj also.. no hurry :0) 17:38 tcohen wip 17:38 tcohen done 17:38 tcohen try running it, you should see the updatedatabase.pl call make lots of updates 17:40 * ashimema wants to cry... 17:40 oleonard :( 17:40 tcohen how is that? 17:40 tcohen :( 17:40 * ashimema started to work with datatables.editable assuming that as it's on the same site and from the same people as datatables it had the same license 17:41 ashimema oh well. back to manually adding jeditable calls to a datatables based table.. this should be 'fun' 17:41 ashimema dinner time now.. I bet someone else has made that mistake before. 17:41 mtj New BSD License, ashimema? 17:42 mtj https://code.google.com/p/jquery-datatables-editable/ 17:45 tcohen mtj: I triggered the build 17:50 mtj awesome thanks 17:51 mtj tcohen: is there an option in jenkins, to trigger a build? 17:52 mtj i've never spotted it, myself 17:52 tcohen you need a login 17:57 mtj ok, i have a login, http://jenkins.koha-community.org/user/mtj@kohaaloha.com 18:02 mtj tcohen: the 3.16-deb6 box seems to be missing a Moose.pm dep (also failling) 18:02 mtj http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_D6/ 18:03 tcohen mtj: that's because that dep was removed, and it uses koha-perldeps to pull them 18:03 tcohen can u drop me an email about it? 18:04 tcohen i need to be AFK for some time now 18:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #596 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #596: SUCCESS in 1 min 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/596/ 18:04 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add cross link to opacprivacy 18:04 mtj no probs, tcohen 18:04 mtj thanks for your help 18:06 mtj the solr tests are failling without moose.pm - i could always just remove the tests :) 18:07 tcohen i guess so 18:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #11 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #11: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.16.x/11/ 18:09 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add cross link to opacprivacy 18:25 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 18:25 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 18:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U12 build #38: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U12/38/ 18:26 ashimema I was looking at http://editor.datatables.net/ mtj.. 18:26 ashimema hadn't seen the New BSD licensed one you've found.. 18:26 ashimema that's more promising. 18:28 mtj http://editor.datatables.net/purchase/index 18:28 mtj yeah, pass on that ^ 18:28 ashimema yeah.. exactly.. 18:28 ashimema I didn't spot the purchase before I started working with the code.. 18:28 ashimema as the rest of MIT I also thought it was MIT 18:29 ashimema .. then when i went to check a piece of the docs I saw the purchase link :( 18:29 ashimema sad 18:29 ashimema oh well.. the one you've spotted looks pretty reasonable ;) 18:29 ashimema and a bit easier than using jeditable 18:29 ashimema anywho.. one for tomorrow now me thinks 18:29 ashimema hope you guys got jenkins fixed ;) 18:35 mtj ta, the ubuntu12 is now sorted... just the deb6 to go 18:42 tcohen mtj: smae problem? 18:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 18:50 tcohen mtj: i fixed u14 too 18:50 tcohen I know it doesn't look like that :-P 18:57 tcohen bye everyone 19:11 rangi morning 19:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #39: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/39/ 19:33 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:33 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #290: FIXED in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/290/ 19:43 rangi anyone around to do a quick test of bug 7996 ? 19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7996 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Patron Modification Log Requires Parameters Permission 19:43 rangi last day of the academy today :) 19:48 nengard I don't see a test plan on this : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8337 19:49 nengard can somoene tell me what the DefaultLongOverdueChargeValue preference is looking for? 19:49 nengard what value am I putting in there? the lost authoritze value? 19:49 nengard that's my guess 19:50 nengard khall do you know ^^ 19:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #294: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/294/ 19:51 rangi <br>Example: [1] [30] Sets an item to the LOST value 1 when it has been overdue for more than 30 days 19:51 rangi that help nengard ? 19:51 nengard rangi that's for the other preference 19:51 nengard that's for DefaultLongOverdueLostValue 19:52 nengard I'm looking at DefaultLongOverdueChargeValue 19:52 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #219: FIXED in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/219/ 20:02 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 20:02 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 20:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #281: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/281/ 20:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #40 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 20:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #597 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #597: SUCCESS in 3 min 47 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/597/ 20:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add DefaultLongOverdue preferences 20:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron 20:07 rangi ahh hmm 20:07 rangi no idea then 20:14 wizzyrea nengard: probably 1 or 0 20:14 wizzyrea 1 fo charge, 0 for don't charge. 20:15 wizzyrea that's what the cronjob used to ask for 20:15 nengard yeah that's what i thought 20:15 wizzyrea I think. 20:15 nengard but then the way it was worded made it sound like it wanted the authorized value 20:15 nengard and if it's just 1 or 0 then it should be a Yes/No pull down ... 20:15 nengard or maybe i'm overthinking it 20:16 wizzyrea sounds like a qa thing to me 20:16 nengard yup 20:16 wizzyrea naw, you're probably right there, if it's 1/0 it should be labeled yes/no 20:16 wizzyrea users don't understand 1/0 20:16 nengard for now it's in the manual - or will be tomorrow - and then i'll update the bug report with a link 20:16 wizzyrea i'll have a quick look 20:17 wizzyrea - <br>Leave this field empty if you don't want to charge the user for lost items. 20:17 wizzyrea so empty for no charge, and yeah I see what they've done here 20:18 wizzyrea it's different from the cron (sorry...) 20:18 wizzyrea they want the numeric value of the authorised value 20:18 wizzyrea so when an item changes to that value, it gets charged. 20:18 nengard okay - that's how i worded it in the manual 20:18 nengard but i have another question 20:18 nengard is it just if the item changes to that value via the longoverdue? 20:19 nengard cause if so it seems silly to have that preference the way it is 20:19 nengard it should be just charge or don't 20:19 nengard cause the following pref asks for the authorized value 20:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #598 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #598: SUCCESS in 1 min 34 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/598/ 20:19 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add norwegian card preferences 20:19 nengard ... and i'm way way way behind on the manual and that's why i'm briniging it all up now 20:19 wizzyrea ah that's alright 20:20 wizzyrea I think this particular patch deals only with items marked with longoverdue 20:20 wizzyrea the cron. 20:20 wahanui the cron is sending it to that? Sounds like a system problem, not koha. 20:20 wizzyrea forget the cron 20:20 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot cron 20:21 wizzyrea the "I marked this lost in the interface" charging is dealt with somewhere else 20:21 wizzyrea which seems dumb but whatever. 20:23 nengard hehe 20:23 nengard got it 20:23 nengard then i think what i wrote is okay 20:27 wizzyrea in defense of the patch, it is nice to be able to specify longoverdue values from the interface. 20:30 nengard oh i agree 100% 20:30 nengard i wish it had all the values 20:30 nengard like the --return (or whatever the value is) 20:30 wizzyrea yeah, should file a bug about that one 20:30 nengard i can do that 20:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #40: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/40/ 20:30 wizzyrea not sure why it wasn't included, tbh 20:31 wizzyrea oversight, prolly 20:31 nengard what other values are there? 20:31 nengard are there any others missing? 20:31 wizzyrea emmm 20:31 nengard the perldoc is empty on this puppy 20:33 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard - what longoverdue *can* take" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/367 20:33 nengard thanks 20:33 wizzyrea don't think we need to set verbose from the interface 20:33 nengard updating the manual 20:33 wizzyrea or quiet 20:33 wizzyrea that was just looking at the script - it's in misc/cronjobs 20:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #599 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #599: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/599/ 20:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AllowRenewalIfOtherItemsAvailable 20:35 wizzyrea hrm, what is the best way to restore a deleted biblio? 20:36 wizzyrea can't say I've ever done this before. 20:36 nengard it's not easy 20:36 wizzyrea that part seems clear to me lol. 20:36 nengard hehe 20:37 nengard okay - writing steps 20:37 nengard insert into biblio where (select * from deletedbiblio where biblionumber=xxx) 20:37 nengard delete frmo deletedbiblio where biblionumber=xxx 20:37 carmenh hiya rangi :D 20:38 nengard insert into biblioitems where (select * from deletedbiblioitems wher ebiblionumber=xxx) 20:38 nengard delete from deletedbiblioitems where biblionumber=xxx 20:38 nengard i think that's all ... anyone disagree? 20:39 wizzyrea yeah that seems sensible to me 20:39 nengard of course i'd leave out my typos 20:39 nengard :) 20:42 nengard wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13589 20:45 wizzyrea nengard++ for like, 10 things this morning 20:45 wizzyrea afternoon, whatever. 20:47 nengard hehe 20:48 nengard somewhere i screwed up .... git isn't matching up 20:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #600 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #600: FAILURE in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/600/ 20:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron doc 20:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron 20:52 wizzyrea ftr, it's just: insert into biblio (select * from deletedbiblio where biblionumber=1) 20:52 wizzyrea no where :) 20:53 rangi hey carmenh 20:53 wahanui I LOVE DISNEY 20:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #12 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #12: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.16.x/12/ 20:54 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update longoverdue cron doc 20:54 carmenh I love Disney too wahanui 20:54 carmenh :D 20:55 carmenh I had an internship there years ago :) 20:55 carmenh how are things in NZ rangi :) 20:57 rangi warm 20:57 rangi @wunder nzwn 20:57 rangi hmm no huginn 20:57 wizzyrea partly cloudy, no chance of meatballs. 20:59 nengard hehe 21:00 nengard carmenh you're talking to a bot :) 21:00 nengard someone programmed wahanui to say that about you 21:00 nengard hehe 21:00 nengard nengard? 21:00 wahanui you are fast 21:00 carmenh lol ahhh 21:00 nengard see 21:00 nengard rangi? 21:00 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 21:00 wizzyrea wizzyrea? 21:00 wahanui rumour has it wizzyrea is silly 21:00 carmenh oops 21:00 carmenh lol 21:00 nengard I bet rangi is the one who made the bot say that 21:00 wizzyrea could have been anybody really :) 21:00 * carmenh feels silly but she still loves Disney :D 21:01 wizzyrea eythian? 21:01 wahanui eythian is an expert bot trainer 21:01 nengard which i think only rangi knows around here 21:01 nengard the disney thing 21:02 nengard okay i think the manual is fixed 21:02 nengard still got about 20 more patches to review 21:02 nengard and document 21:02 wahanui i heard document was not a stylesheet 21:02 nengard but i'm getting there 21:03 nengard wahanui that is silly 21:03 wahanui ...but that is the intended behavior?... 21:03 nengard it might be 21:03 nengard :) 21:04 wizzyrea wahanui is a learning bot. 21:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #601 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #599 31 min ago) 21:04 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 21:04 wizzyrea he's full of nonsequiturs 21:04 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 21:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #601: FIXED in 1 min 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/601/ 21:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add DefaultLongOverdue preferences 21:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "add norwegian card preferences" 21:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add norwegian prefs 21:04 nengard WOO HOO 21:04 wizzyrea and a confetti throwing bot 21:04 rangi lets add more marc? 21:04 rangi we should use more marc 21:04 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800 21:04 nengard more marc???? 21:04 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800 21:04 nengard LOL 21:04 nengard love it 21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus would also be appropriate there 21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus? 21:05 wizzyrea oh that should be a thing. 21:05 * nengard is confused 21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus is <reply> http://img.ly/system/uploads/007/617/604/large_upload.jpg 21:05 wizzyrea nopetopus? 21:05 nengard and dizzy from the tail end of a migraine 21:05 wahanui http://img.ly/system/uploads/007/617/604/large_upload.jpg 21:06 nengard well okay then 21:06 wizzyrea aw forget nopetopus 21:06 wizzyrea forget nopetopus 21:06 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot nopetopus 21:06 nengard why? 21:06 nengard no forgetting 21:06 wizzyrea nopetopus is <reply> http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-abandon-thread-avoid-do-not-want-no-nope-Nopetopus-octopus-run-away-GIF.gif 21:06 wizzyrea that's better :D 21:08 rangi yeah buddy 21:08 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ 21:08 wizzyrea https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906373_651329141656720_1165787811502762374_n.jpg?oh=40b8850dace1c9f481cde88973c1f82b&oe=55264E21 nengard 21:08 wizzyrea sorry I couldn't find a rainbow butterfly unicorn sheltie. 21:09 ibeardslee keep searching 21:09 rangi wow rfid thread brings out the consultants 21:09 wizzyrea chide chide chide 21:09 wizzyrea much finger waggling. 21:10 rangi consultants? 21:10 wahanui http://demotivators.despair.com/demotivational/consultingdemotivator.jpg 21:12 wizzyrea LOL! 21:12 wizzyrea rangi++ that was a good laugh. 21:14 nengard wnickc !! 21:14 nengard you're famous now :) 21:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #602 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED) 21:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #602: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/602/ 21:19 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update notices templates 21:19 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update Add and delete budgets permission 21:20 wnickc huh? I am? 21:20 wizzyrea I want to do something like this for Koha 21:20 wizzyrea https://static1.squarespace.com/static/527b69fbe4b0febeee4fc9f7/t/54b80483e4b0f32f8253d06c/1421345934518/?format=1000w 21:20 wizzyrea with applicable stats, of course. 21:20 wizzyrea specifically of interest 21:20 wizzyrea is the "development costs" section. 21:21 wnickc nengard: I've always been fabulous, the fame was inevitable 21:21 nengard LOL 21:22 nengard YIKES who let LordVoldemort in??? 21:23 LordVoldemort I let myself in thanks 21:23 DarthVader :) 21:23 nengard HA 21:23 stormageddondarklordofall :) 21:24 HarryDresden :) 21:24 stormageddondarklordofall *snicker* 21:24 LordVoldemort I don't even know who Harry Dresden is 21:24 LordVoldemort are you a villain too? 21:24 HarryDresden OH NO!!! 21:24 HarryDresden Hell no - I'm a wizard who can woop you a** 21:24 HarryDresden :) 21:24 HarryDresden I'm a good guy 21:24 dumbledore keke 21:24 HarryDresden there is a meme asking harry dresden v. lord voldemort 21:25 HarryDresden http://www.factpile.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/harry-dresden-vs-voldemort.png 21:25 DarthVader haha 21:25 * Dyrcona doesn't need to change his name. He is legendary. 21:25 HarryDresden LordVoldemort you might like the series 21:25 HarryDresden it's pretty awesome 21:26 * wizzyrea too, really 21:31 eythian hi 21:31 wahanui salut, eythian 21:32 nengard hola 21:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #603 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #603: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/603/ 21:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add NotHighlightedWords 21:54 JesseM ok heading out for a bit 21:55 LordVoldemort wizzyrea is there anything more i can do for the website? 21:55 nengard anyone know what the point of OPACFallback is ? 21:56 wizzyrea LordVoldemort: let me look... 21:58 wizzyrea LordVoldemort: the release team link goes to the wrong place on this page: http://koha-community.org/about/koha-project-organization/ it would be cool if you could make it point to the wiki, the link should be on the page you worked on yesterday 22:00 eythian nengard: it lets you fall back to another theme 22:00 eythian I'm not sure when that'd be useful 22:01 LordVoldemort okay 22:01 wizzyrea It would be neat if you could add a link to the kohadevbox (https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox) from the "for developers" page (http://koha-community.org/get-involved/for-developers/) 22:01 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard: this might explain it, from the function that uses it." (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/368 22:02 nengard eythian i'm still not sure i get it - is it there cause we didn't make sure that every page works in bootstrap? 22:02 nengard is it just a safety net 22:02 LordVoldemort internet is down :( 22:02 nengard and if so why is bootstrap an option along with prog? 22:02 wizzyrea aw sad. 22:02 eythian It's probably in case you make a custom theme for some purpose 22:03 wizzyrea so you can fall back on the default theme if *you* mess up your custom theme. 22:03 eythian so, you only need to put the changed files into your new theme, and anything missing will fall back to the existing bootstrap|prog 22:03 eythian wizzyrea: no, so you don't have to supply all files 22:03 wizzyrea eythian is much more diplomatic. 22:03 wizzyrea :) 22:03 eythian like some of our stuff does with lang 22:03 eythian if you mess up the custom theme, it'll still display messed up :) 22:04 wizzyrea I might consider it messing up to not include all files >.> but that's not being very diplomatic and maybe a bit rude. 22:05 eythian what happens if you only change one file? 22:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #604 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #604: SUCCESS in 2 min 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/604/ 22:05 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add ExpireReservesOnHolidays 22:05 eythian you don't want to maintain copies of everything 22:05 wizzyrea (I'm not really arguing with you, you're right. ) 22:05 eythian it'd mean we could use custom themes instead of custom translations. 22:06 eythian I don't know if that'd be better or worse, tbh. 22:06 wizzyrea we all know how much I love custom translations 22:06 wizzyrea seems better, as it doesn't do all files. 22:07 wizzyrea though now that I've learned how to only translate certain files, I feel happier. 22:07 wizzyrea less annoyed, anyway. 22:07 wizzyrea I really want some frogurt. 22:08 eythian that's an idea I approve of. 22:08 wizzyrea \o/ 22:08 eythian Bring me back some would you? ;) 22:09 wizzyrea I sense an afternoon foray in my future. 22:11 eythian https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 <-- beware, this is horribad 22:12 dcook Too much scrollback, not enough sleep... 22:12 wizzyrea oh. my. 22:14 dcook Oh wow... 22:14 dcook horribad indeed 22:15 dcook I thought about trying to automate the path for a variable once... 22:15 dcook (Oh, there are so many jokes that could be made... especially inr eference to Skyrim...) 22:16 pianohacker bethesda's high quality pathfinding? 22:17 wizzyrea something about "I symlinked my steam library and I took an arrow to the knee?" 22:17 dcook ^ 22:17 dcook Wish that I had longer to play that game 22:17 dcook Bought an xbox a week before I moved to 'straya, played it for a week, and never saw it again 22:18 wizzyrea the xbox? or skyrim? 22:18 wizzyrea or both 22:18 eythian I rediscovered OpenTTD the other day, there went my evening. 22:18 wizzyrea oh dear. 22:18 dcook wizzyrea: both 22:19 dcook Oh my... 22:19 * dcook pretends that he didn't see OpenTTD 22:19 pianohacker oh, heh. spent a lot of time in fallout new vegas picking off angry irradiated animals that really wanted to get to me. So badly, in fact, that they were going to run straight into a cliff for as long as it took 22:20 pianohacker so I thought you had a problem with their ${PATH}finding :) 22:20 wizzyrea ^ this is a really excellent nerdy joke 22:20 wizzyrea pianohacker++ 22:28 LordVoldemort hi francesca 22:33 rangi eythian++ #good reply 22:38 dcook I think I have every nick possible out at this point :p 22:39 wizzyrea yeah totes. 22:39 wizzyrea eythian++ 23:02 pianohacker what IE versions do we support? 23:02 * dcook thinks this is the moment where someone points to dcook and says whatever he patches :p 23:02 pianohacker curious if we might be able to drop http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#JS6:_Trailing_comma_in_a_reference_list soonish 23:03 pianohacker ha! probably :) 23:03 pianohacker see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5036618/does-internet-explorer-9-choke-on-extra-commas-at-the-end-of-array-and-object-li 23:03 dcook Yeah, I'm familiar with that one :/ 23:04 dcook Of course when I'm creating hashes in Perl, I love leaving trailing commas 23:04 dcook Actually, I think pretty much everything ever lets you use trailing commas with exploding 23:04 pianohacker except haskell and something else (Go or Java?) 23:04 dcook Well, Java hates everything :p 23:05 pianohacker true fact 23:05 dcook Although I think I'm mostly just bitter after debugging Java the other day. Oh the pain... 23:05 dcook But yeah. Mmm, I imagine we support... I don't even know 23:05 dcook I guess we don't officially? 23:05 dcook I think Bootstrap 3 has support for IE8 at the lowest 23:06 dcook Although we're still on Bootstrap 2 which supports IE7 at the least 23:06 dcook Even Bootstrap 3 has some extra goodies you can use to support IE 7 23:06 pianohacker dcook: last I heard, official policy was "Firefox always, chrome hopefully, IE no" for the staff side and "everything possible" for the OPAC 23:06 dcook Which is what we do for DSpace 4.x 23:06 dcook Interesting! 23:06 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 23:06 dcook I can't say I've ever heard that, but I could see that certainly being the standard 23:07 pianohacker those who have been more actively involved in recent times are free to contradict me on that one :) 23:07 dcook We have a fair number of people using IE for the staff client, so that's where I spend a reasonable amount of time when upgrading versions 23:07 dcook I suppose the thing will be... even if the community doesn't support IE, I'll certainly be writing fixes forever :p 23:08 dcook Although I don't look forward to the day where we start using libraries that I can't hack minorly... 23:08 dcook Well, maybe I do look forward to that day... so that people finally upgrade their IE 23:09 dcook I need to take a note out of the pages of other technical support lines 23:09 dcook I've been on hold for over 20 minutes, and I can't imagine I'm going to be talking to a human any time soon 23:10 pianohacker dcook: what IE versions? 23:10 dcook IE7 :( 23:10 * dcook points to the PM ;) 23:10 pianohacker heh, yes ;) 23:10 dcook It's sad making 23:10 dcook "Your call is progressing" 23:10 dcook Are you sure? Because the exact same music and friendly advice is starting to get to me. 23:11 cait hi #koha 23:11 dcook hey cait :) 23:17 pianohacker I may be the slowest person on the internet but I'm laughing really hard at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmU-Bmk4Wrk 23:22 * Francesca waves 23:24 wizzyrea using a version of IE less than 9 is a menace to society, and those computers running it should be forcibly upgraded to firefox. 23:24 dac ^ 23:24 Francesca hi everyone! 23:24 dac yo Francesca 23:24 wizzyrea hi Francesca :) 23:24 dac wizzyrea: unfortunately, the authorities are the ones often running IE less than 9 :p 23:24 wizzyrea time for civil disobedience? 23:24 dac hehe 23:24 wizzyrea :) 23:25 dac Right now I would settle for reliable internet... 23:25 wizzyrea yeah truf. 23:25 * cait waves 23:25 pianohacker hi cait 23:25 dac hey cait 23:26 cait wizzyrea: those cupcakes look great 23:26 dcook Did someone say cupcakes? 23:26 wizzyrea wat there are cupcakes? 23:26 wizzyrea I'm in. 23:27 wizzyrea where are you seeing the cupcakes? 23:27 * dcook wonders if this tech support line will ever actually pick up 23:27 dcook I think that's the key to 24/7 support services 23:27 dcook Just never answer your phone 23:27 dcook Have it available and never answer it 23:27 dcook Bam. 24/7 support. 23:27 * dcook grumbles 23:28 wizzyrea oh THOSE cupcakes! 23:28 wizzyrea yes, they do look delish. 23:29 cait heh 23:32 cait :) 23:32 cait late answer: twitter :) 23:33 dcook huzzah! finally a pickup 23:34 pianohacker bye all :) 23:34 dcook ta pianohacker 23:35 dcook Of course I'm on hold again, but now the music is way better 23:36 wizzyrea cait - have you seen a behaviour, ever, where receiving a serial creates multiple entries in acquisitions? 23:37 cait ugh? 23:37 cait can you give information to what kind of thing it did? 23:38 cait there used to be a link between acq andserial when you rnewed it 23:38 cait but i think we have broken that a longer time ago 23:38 cait i don't see how it would be possible, unless some old cold about hte renewal got ... 23:38 cait cold=code 23:39 wizzyrea this is an old, old koha 23:39 wizzyrea I think it has something to do with legacy data but I'm not sure what 23:39 wizzyrea it's so annoying. 23:40 cait not sure 23:40 cait nd the rnewal went only into suggestions... 23:40 cait back then 23:40 cait well i have never seen it :( 23:40 wizzyrea that's ok 23:41 wizzyrea just thought I'd ask. 23:46 cait big thank you to the academy students, awesome job this week! 23:46 cait good night all 23:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #32 1 day 0 hr ago) 23:48 eythian http://i.imgur.com/z4qkBNd.gifv 23:50 wizzyrea that is terrifying and adorable all at once. 23:50 dcook hehe