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23:59 dcook abby++
23:57 dcook Of course, I'm always locked in a struggle regarding how much power to give to staff client users...
23:56 dcook And possibly too powerful
23:56 dcook While I like TT syntax, it might also be a bit intimidating for librarians
23:56 dcook It probably isn't set although errors wouldn't be good either
23:55 dcook barton: I was thinking a bit about http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_PERL, although it might be irrelevant if "EVAL_PERL" is disabled.
23:55 * dcook hearts TT a bit ;)
23:55 dcook ^
23:55 rangi TT is for display logic, not functional logic, the only reason stuff gets crufty is when people start putting functional logic in your templates .. just because you can, doesnt mean you should
23:53 rangi ill let you know
23:53 rangi ah hmm might backport them
23:53 tcohen new files
23:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Full stack encoding tests (UTF-8)
23:53 tcohen bug 13264
23:53 tcohen rangi: i'm talking about the tests only
23:52 barton XSS?
23:52 barton what risks do you see, dcook?
23:52 barton Like I said, I'm not in love with template toolkit ... it's krufty and ugly, but does have the necessary power to display lists of data in a consistent fashion... plus, we use it for everything else.
23:51 rangi big enough changes that i think ill leave it for master
23:51 rangi hmm i dont think i will
23:50 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
23:50 tcohen @later tell rangi if you want to backport the UTF-8 tests into 3.18.x, I can set jenkins so it runs them
23:50 dcook hehe
23:48 barton "rather inconsistent at times" <= understatement of the day.
23:48 barton c) use DBIC for the data to pull, and have the staff client only show the data avaliable for a given letter.
23:47 dcook Koha::Messages or something would be rad
23:47 dcook There's so much logic in individual scripts and it's rather inconsistent at times
23:47 dcook Totally agree with b) though
23:47 dcook Hmm, using template toolkit could probably be a bit risky
23:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #32 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:46 barton b) much more of the letters logic pulled into C4::Letter (or write Koha::Messages ...)
23:44 barton I would like to see a) the formatting done via template toolkit (I'm not in *love* with template toolkit, but we need something that we don't re-write every time we add a new message type).
23:41 barton Sing it, brother!
23:39 dcook It would be good to have all the public parts be the most robust and well documented..
23:38 dcook I agree about what you said about messaging being one of the most public parts of Koha though
23:38 dcook I was just about to ask if anyone was working on that one :p
23:38 barton ... unfortunately, that page is fairly out of date as well.
23:38 barton I'd like to add a link to the messaging rewrite RFC: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Messaging_rewrite_RFC
23:37 barton It's meant to be a resource for the entire Koha community.
23:36 dcook :p
23:36 dcook lol
23:36 barton ;-)
23:36 barton yes.
23:36 dcook If you don't mind me asking, is the wiki page intended for librarians or developers?
23:35 barton It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft has made their html handling much more robust since that page was written.
23:35 dcook Neato
23:35 dcook Mmm
23:34 barton Oh, actually that's the legacy part of the page ... atll the stuff that I added was in the 'Notice Markup' part of the page, and down.
23:33 dcook But I'm also on the newest version, I think..
23:33 dcook barton: I can't say I've had any of the problems you mention with Outlook :S
23:32 barton Even better, if you have the ability to read perl code and some extra time and attention, follow the link at the end of the page and help me fill in some of the details.
23:32 dcook You know... if LoC cared so much about RDA, you think they'd add a "r" value to the Leader's 18 position... although I'm sure we all know LoC doesn't actually like RDA anyway..
23:30 barton http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Customising_Notices_and_Slips
23:29 barton hey #koha, I've just done a major overhaul on the 'Notices and Slips' page on the wiki. Please take a look. I'm soliciting comments (feel free to leave me a @later if I don't respond).
22:55 anonymous no worries
22:52 wizzyrea sure :) sorry was afk for a moment
22:52 anonymous can you check kohaacademy wizzyrea?
22:47 rangi just wanted a test baker and taylor username to test a bug
22:46 rangi righto
22:44 bag rangi: if it’s something urgent - shot me an email - I can check that on the go
22:44 bag ok I have a meeting I’m running too - catch you later rangi
22:43 bag rangi:
22:41 bag for a sec
22:38 rangi bag: you about?
22:35 wizzyrea later cait :)
22:26 cait night :)
22:08 wizzyrea pft.
22:07 cait i wish :)
22:06 wizzyrea cait: your bug reports are always awesome. :)
22:04 * dcook waves
22:03 eythian hi
21:55 wizzyrea the original though, it could have been clearer.
21:55 wizzyrea yeah, really helpful
21:54 cait wizzyrea: did you see my update on the bug?
21:53 wizzyrea removed?
21:53 wizzyrea sections you'd like added?
21:53 wizzyrea any other website-y things?
21:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Update patron records -page should have a link to patron details
21:41 cait bug 12352
21:38 wizzyrea 12352 illustrates the importance of a good bug report.
21:26 cait :)
21:25 * wizzyrea sics an academy student on the problem
21:21 cait could we make the link at the bottom look linky? (blue?)
21:21 wizzyrea that's legitimate
21:21 cait instead of the linkt to report
21:21 cait I thik i just thought it was a heading
21:21 wizzyrea :)
21:20 cait that link
21:20 wizzyrea that is a link
21:20 cait ah
21:20 wizzyrea Report a security issue in Koha
21:20 wizzyrea look up at the top of that page.
21:20 wizzyrea yeah, that one's on every page
21:20 cait i disagree :)
21:20 cait http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/pic_fc731a.png
21:19 wizzyrea it's a giant blue link.
21:19 cait let#s see if my server has come back so i can show you
21:19 wizzyrea on that page?
21:19 cait wizzyrea: it shows really small for me
21:19 wizzyrea regarding "report a security bug could be bigger" - it's quite huge here: http://koha-community.org/security/
21:18 wizzyrea oh cait
20:57 cait academy_students++
20:08 nengard hi
20:07 wizzyrea hi
20:05 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update budgets section with links
20:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #593: SUCCESS in 2 min 42 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/593/
20:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #593 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:17 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
19:17 bag @later tell ashimema congrats and good luck :)
19:12 wahanui oleonard: I forgot note
19:12 oleonard wahanui: forget note
19:11 wahanui oleonard: I forgot notes
19:11 oleonard wahanui: forget notes
19:11 wahanui oleonard: I forgot meeting
19:11 oleonard wahanui: forget meeting
19:11 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching all that stuff
19:11 oleonard wahanui: Forget all that stuff.
19:11 wahanui notes is the key :D
19:11 bag notes?
19:11 wahanui it has been said that note is not visible in opac i think? but in staff?
19:11 bag note?
19:11 bag meeting notes?
19:11 wahanui meeting is probably not today... but tomorrow
19:11 bag meeting?
19:10 cait hi bag
19:10 bag hi cait
19:07 cait hi #koha
19:04 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add new section for closing a budget by Denise Hannibal
19:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #592: SUCCESS in 1 min 24 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/592/
19:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #592 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update dup budget info
18:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #591: SUCCESS in 1 min 31 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/591/
18:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #591 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add second way to duplicate budget
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: split add budget section
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update budget image
18:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #590: SUCCESS in 4 min 1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/590/
18:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #590 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:21 DigitalZen oleonard: I got to go Thanks again
18:17 DigitalZen oleonard: Yes I do
18:16 oleonard DigitalZen: And now you see item information for your imported records?
18:12 DigitalZen I kept looking for the 952 tag in the MARC view on koha. The imports I did in the past was with a perl script that removed my barcodes so I tried doing it without it and I knew the Barcode was in 952p but when I didn't see the 952 tag in the marc view on koha and after searching on google alot i decided to ask for help in IRC.
18:07 oleonard What was the problem DigitalZen?
18:07 DigitalZen ok I think i see what my problem was, thanks for the help sorry I am new to asking for help on IRC :p have a good day
18:03 oleonard 34014000074551
18:03 oleonard Yes
18:02 DigitalZen when you imported it did it have a barcode?
17:59 oleonard DigitalZen: For what it's worth, when I import the record you pasted it imports with an item
17:59 pastebot "DigitalZen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "This one I used a perl script to convert the fields" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/365
17:57 DigitalZen oh ok, I have another MARC file from the same place but I used a perl script to format it would you like that one too
17:55 oleonard I notice it doesn't have $a (home library) or $b (holding library)
17:53 DigitalZen http://paste.koha-community.org/364?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
17:52 oleonard You'll have to share the link with us DigitalZen
17:49 DigitalZen ok done
17:43 oleonard DigitalZen: Perhaps you could paste the text of an example MARC record at http://paste.koha-community.org/ ?
17:43 DigitalZen I am exporting them from an Athena system then using MARCedit I changed the 852 tag into 952
17:41 oleonard DigitalZen: How are you creating the MARC file?
17:38 DigitalZen I am trying to import a MARC file into Koha but the 952 tag is not being imported, how can i solve this issue? I am running Koha 3.18 on Debian
17:36 mveron Bye #koha
17:33 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, DigitalZen
17:33 DigitalZen awesome
17:33 oleonard You can ask any question you like, and anyone who knows the answer can respond
17:32 DigitalZen hi olenoard, I have a question about koha could you help me?
17:31 oleonard Hi DigitalZen
17:30 DigitalZen hello
16:46 gaetan_B bye
16:07 reiveune bye
15:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12792: C4::Reserves breaks my vim syntax color <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f406a840a09b381dc12a4e9704846b126b0c214> / Bug 13408: Tell librarians they may continue scanning while checkouts table is loading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28513edb943c255b191c94e0fbc0fe14368e6985> / Bug 13566 - Change translation for 'Rotating collection' in German web
15:14 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jquery for oleonard" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/363
15:13 nengard one sec i'll paste
15:13 nengard woo hoo
15:13 oleonard Sure
15:13 nengard got a sec to help me with a jquery headache? :)
15:12 oleonard Yes
15:12 nengard oleonard around?
14:07 ashimema_ will try to finish this phone call soon
14:07 Joubu ashimema: k :)
14:07 ashimema_ on the wrong computer at the minute whilst on the phone
14:06 ashimema_ sorry Joubu.. not seen it yet..
14:05 Joubu ashimema(', ashimema_?): Did you see my private msg?
13:35 ashimema_ lol
13:35 ashimema_ if you have an infinite amount of money and time to do such a migration.. go for it ;)
13:35 oleonard No. We are not going to re-write Koha in another language.
13:35 tw like ruby on rails, php on laravel and some on....
13:34 tw some new idea!
13:34 tw some new ides
13:34 tw koha have turn to mvc framework
13:33 ashimema_ but turning it on is still not the most straight forward or documented thing
13:33 ashimema_ plack is closer I think..
13:32 tw right!
13:32 tw and then, i want to ask plack for koha (it's also in development)
13:30 ashimema_ what she said
13:29 tw thanks, cait
13:29 cait you can find a bug on bugzlla that links to a branch with some/all? the work i think
13:28 cait that's what my impression is
13:28 cait tw: it's still in development
13:28 tw hello , everybody ! I want to know koha & elasticsearch (current state)
13:20 cait maybe worth trying again
13:19 cait mveron: last time i got only one answer and lost :) but more people around now
13:11 mveron cait: Ach so... I will ask librarians here. Maybe we could ask others on German list?
13:09 cait hi tcohen
13:09 cait because people always thing it has to do witht he materialtype shown in the record
13:09 cait Exemplartyp instead of Medientyp
13:08 mveron cait:What would be the new names for Medientyp and Exemplartyp?
13:04 tcohen hi koha
12:58 cait mveron: can we rename other things too? medientyp to exemplartyp? :)
12:56 mveron hi cait :-)
12:55 cait mveron++
12:55 cait mveron: rotating collections doesn't seem to appearin the help files - so we shoudl be done with your patch :)
12:52 meliss hi magnuse
12:52 magnuse hiya meliss and NateC
12:51 cait hi again oleonard ;)
12:42 magnuse kia ora oleonard
12:40 oleonard Hi again #koha
12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The correct COLLATE set to all DB tables
12:32 Joubu bug 13577 needs QA :)
11:37 gaetan_B extra question if i got this right : what about checking the book in on the 17th?
11:37 gaetan_B if the book is checked in on the 16th there will be no message and the book will be back on the shelves for normal circulation ?
11:36 gaetan_B if the book is checked in on the 18th, the librarian will get an alert and will be able to confirm the hold and set the book aside for me
11:36 gaetan_B and i place a hold with a date in the future (20th of january for instance)
11:36 gaetan_B does this mean that, if the value in this syspref is 3
11:35 gaetan_B i think i got it but not sure
11:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time
11:35 gaetan_B i have a question on futureholds and the ConfirmFutureHolds syspref (bug 9761)
11:03 thd magnuse: I had thought that one of the functions had at one time been to publicise Koha when it was less well known.
11:02 * magnuse needs lunch
11:02 magnuse hm, it looks like kaitiaki = guardian, so that might be more apt for jransom and hlt than for a "Communications Manager"?
11:02 thd ashimema: You may have missed the discussion of no yellow or green bits on the security map for Nigeria.
10:59 thd jransom: Were you once the kaitiaki?
10:59 ashimema back
10:59 BobB night folks
10:59 BobB yes I do, nice concept, but don't get me started on governance at this hour, we'll both regret it :)
10:58 thd Good night BobB.
10:58 thd BobB: Do you remember when Koha had a kaitiaki?
10:58 BobB good night all
10:58 BobB anyway, its bed time for me folks
10:58 thd magnuse: yes
10:58 magnuse nah, maybe not
10:57 magnuse kaitiaki?
10:57 BobB heaven knows, the only Maori I know is on the Koha wiki
10:55 thd BobB: What did the Maouri word which I do not remember but thought of as something like Communications Manager do that is different from your conception of communications manger?
10:55 BobB feel free to email me (or the list) with any thoughts thd
10:55 * magnuse waves to BobB
10:54 thd BobB: The issue of ambiguity about what the Communications Manager would do was raised if I remember correctly again at the first meeting last time.
10:53 BobB agreed, yes
10:52 thd BobB: It may be difficult to attract volunteers for a role for which the responsibilities are unclear.
10:52 * BobB waves to magnuse
10:52 * magnuse waves to jransom
10:52 BobB will get it to you by mid-week
10:52 BobB ok jransom, that is enough time for us
10:51 thd BobB: Communications manager needs a better definition or understanding of the intended role.
10:51 jransom I need to have anything by next thursday if we want it on this month's agenda
10:51 BobB best we get these things right, rather than rush them
10:50 BobB yep, all good
10:50 thd BobB: He had raised some criticisms but I could not communicate with him properly while I was away in California.
10:50 jransom scrap that ...
10:50 jransom if we want it to got jis month I neeed
10:50 cait i was not sure who would be around, so i kept the agenda open
10:50 BobB thx
10:49 BobB joubu that is correct, I'm saying we'll add them for next meeting
10:49 jransom I know paul and brendan are eagef to get this cracking aling.
10:49 Joubu s/there/they
10:49 thd BobB: ashimema and I are going to discuss ideas about wiki management.
10:49 BobB by what day do you need it?
10:49 Joubu BobB, jransom: there are not in the agenda: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_14_January_2015
10:48 BobB jransom, bag and I are working on a paper for you this week
10:48 jransom cool. I have an agenda to put tigether next week for trustees otherwise next month.
10:47 BobB I think bag will be sure to list it for next time
10:47 BobB yes jo, also ongoing
10:47 jransom and the funded position / fundraising / donatons.
10:46 BobB I will list them for next meeting
10:46 BobB Discussion on those topics is ongoing
10:46 BobB We did not discuss the matter of the Wiki Curator and Communications manager
10:45 BobB thank you cait
10:45 Joubu cait: yep :)
10:45 cait thx for attending everyone
10:45 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015.2015-01-14-10.01.log.html
10:45 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015.2015-01-14-10.01.txt
10:45 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015.2015-01-14-10.01.html
10:45 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 14 10:45:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
10:45 cait #endmeeting
10:45 cait we can still discuss on ml if it causes bigger problems
10:45 thd BobB: Yes, we cannot make it good for everyone but we can make it least bad for many.
10:45 BobB all good
10:45 cait #info Next meeting is scheduled for 11th February, 19 UTC
10:44 cait i think ideal is not achievable sadly
10:44 BobB there is no time that is good for everyone in the world
10:44 cait shoudl we try 19 and see how it works out?
10:43 thd BobB would adjusting the time to 21 UTC work better?
10:43 BobB sorry I meant 19
10:43 Joubu cait: the idea was to alternate, so it's good
10:43 wahanui 5am is probably early for me, with luck i'd have insomnia ;)
10:43 cait 5am?
10:43 BobB 18 UTC is ok
10:43 cait not for joubu
10:43 cait ah no
10:43 cait hm moving it to 20utc better?
10:43 BobB but good in nz
10:43 BobB ouch will be 6am here
10:42 Joubu +0 # not a good time, too late for me
10:42 oleonard 19UTC works fairly well for me
10:42 thd +1
10:42 cait don't leave me alone now people - please vote :)
10:42 thd oleonard: There are worst times than this hour for you :)
10:41 Joubu cait: not 10 UTC for oleonard :)
10:41 cait 11th february?
10:41 cait 19UTC oleonard?
10:41 oleonard +1 to not this time
10:41 thd Yes, I think we should take some measures to avoid worst times which have had almost no attendance.
10:41 cait i am bad with timezones, so hope my thinking is not wrong :)
10:40 cait other suggestions?
10:40 cait vetos? +1? :)
10:40 BobB worth a try
10:40 cait and it would be 8horus from now, so shoudl get some of the people missing today
10:40 cait i feel like we used to have good attendance at 19 UTC in the past, but might be wrong
10:39 cait i'd like to propose february 11th, 19 UTC
10:39 thd If relatively few people would come in any case and those people would have sufficient funding then the issue may be easier to decide.
10:39 cait #topic Set date and time for the next meeting
10:38 cait moving on?
10:38 cait ok
10:38 jransom if it was in ghana or kenya or south african, a university no problem, but nigeria has known security issues that have to be taken into consideration. is a different
10:38 paul_p OK, will report all that to organizers. Thanks for questions/advices/opinions
10:37 thd Certainly, they ought to try to poll people who may be likely to come if they do not know how to decide otherwise.
10:37 magnuse (sorry, was busy with other things)
10:36 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech
10:36 paul_p Joubu don't know.
10:36 Joubu Africans from other countries I meant
10:36 Joubu What about Africans? Are they ready to come?
10:36 cait jransom++
10:36 jransom I guess the organisers will have to the best judgement calls they can, put together the package and offer up to the community.
10:35 paul_p cait = imagine you've the budget, the time and the agreement from you boss. It's just to poll ;-)
10:34 cait paul_p: I think it's unlikely I will go this year - not giving a vote
10:34 jransom if tomorrow I would go to diplomatic area but not university
10:34 thd paul_p: You should ask what might be done to mitigate the security concern at a local university.
10:33 paul_p maybe I should ask you : let's suppose it's tomorrow. would you go if it were in the diplomatic area ? would you go if it were in the university ?
10:32 paul_p Joubu right...
10:32 Joubu or :-/
10:32 Joubu no green or yellow in nigeria :)
10:32 paul_p thd mostly green, some parts yellow
10:32 jransom I fear it will an either /or situation: affordable and high local participation vs exp and moderate number of foreigners
10:32 paul_p thd see argentina for example : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs/conseils-par-pays/argentine-12200/
10:32 thd paul_p: Where is it green or yellow?
10:31 cait or minutes, it's all going into the logs of course
10:31 cait something we should add to the logs?
10:31 paul_p thd click on "securité" tab
10:31 jransom I agree.
10:30 BobB There are Work Health and Safety issues for employers, just sayin'
10:30 paul_p probably wise BobB ...
10:30 BobB I would urge an abundance of caution
10:30 paul_p thd http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs/conseils-par-pays/nigeria-12319/
10:30 BobB the problem is that you know the security situation now: you don't know what it will be in Oct
10:30 thd paul_p: Where is the colour coded map?
10:29 paul_p OK, I'll feedback that to organizers.
10:29 paul_p here it's "orange", which is better than "red" (northern part or nigeria), but worst than green or yellow...
10:29 thd I would like to know more about the specific security concern at a nearby university as distinct from known problematic places in Nigeria.
10:28 paul_p cait organizers say it's safe. but of course they're black & nigerian...
10:28 ashimema same here jransom
10:28 cait jransom: similar here
10:28 paul_p 150USD/day is fine for me, that's what costed the KohaCon in Nevada or Argentina, roughly.
10:28 cait i thnk it's hard to tell from here - the organizers will know best about the local situation
10:28 jransom nigeria was on the 'no travel' list ladt time I looked on nz foreign affairs page so insurance is going to be imposdible. the secure place would be my preference but price is so high.
10:27 paul_p yep, that's also my 1st reaction : local or non nigerian but african participation.
10:27 paul_p anyone an opinion that I could feedback to the team ?
10:27 cait paul_p: not sure - it's quite a bit of money, bit worried about the local participation
10:26 thd cait: Yes, I know the general reports.
10:26 paul_p cait = yep, 150USD for bedroom, lunch, dinner,...
10:26 cait i see
10:26 paul_p + 1800USD/day for the conference room, that will have to be sponsored by someone
10:26 paul_p cait = yep, 150USD for room, lunch, dinner,...
10:26 cait thd: if you read up a bit about nigeria there are some warnings
10:25 paul_p or the university, where security would be more "standard" (the ibadan area being not in the unsafe part of nigeria)
10:25 cait paul_p: for the participant?
10:25 paul_p what is you opinion about the location : a very safe one, in diplomatic area, with all safety, but cost 150USD/day all included
10:25 thd paul_p: What is indicated that fear for security would be warranted at a university location?
10:25 cait anything else?
10:24 cait #info topic should be 15 ... not 14.
10:24 cait don't tell me doesn't happen to all of you currently :)
10:24 paul_p hehe...
10:24 cait yes... it should be
10:24 thd cait: Should that not be KohaCon15?
10:24 cait #info things are moving, location still to be decided
10:23 paul_p so, still to be decided, but things are moving ;-)
10:23 paul_p chris & I have some emails with ppl from Ibadan. The organisation is moving on. The proposed location cost quite a lot of money (international & diplomatic location). So we're wondering whether that's the best option. Other locations (like in a university) would be much cheaper, but ppl could fear about security.
10:23 cait now even
10:23 cait paul_p: nwo :)
10:23 cait #topic KohaCon14 (cont.)
10:23 cait :)
10:23 thd +1
10:22 BobB ok, cool
10:22 ashimema +1
10:22 mveron +1
10:22 cait +1
10:22 cait i am :)
10:21 BobB Is everyone here ok with the idea / text?
10:21 cait heh
10:21 cait ah
10:21 cait #action BobB will send an email about the Roadmap wiki page to the mailing list
10:21 BobB #action BobB to email the list to ask for contributions to the Road Map
10:20 cait BobB: it would be nice if you could
10:20 ashimema will get collegues to keep going through the list
10:20 ashimema added 5 libraries to HEA for you paul_p ;)
10:20 BobB yep, ok, will i do that?
10:19 cait asking people to add?
10:19 cait BobB: shoudl we put the wiki page on the mailing list?
10:19 paul_p reading it...
10:19 paul_p (as I just receive an email about the kohacon15 NOW !)
10:19 BobB ah, sorry , what cait said
10:19 paul_p fine !
10:18 cait let's talk about the raodmap first and come back to the con?
10:18 BobB go ahead paul_p
10:18 paul_p (was AFK due to another call...)
10:18 paul_p sorry, about the KohaCon, i've something to say !
10:18 cait BobB++
10:18 cait i like the text - read it before the meeting
10:17 BobB and if it is ok, folks can start to populate it
10:17 BobB So that is the proposal I guesss: needs feedback ...
10:17 BobB #link: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_for_Koha
10:17 cait BobB: I saw you did some work on it?
10:16 cait we got the roadmap on the agenda
10:16 cait #topic Actions from the last meeting
10:16 cait I will move on?
10:16 cait ok, nothing for kohacon i think?
10:15 cait Joubu: cool
10:15 Joubu cait: aleisha is working on Hea
10:15 fridolin squashed patches
10:15 fridolin ok, whe have a 3.14 version indeed
10:15 cait I'd also like to see a statement on the hea page about what is /can be stored
10:14 cait #action mtj to backport HEA into 3.16
10:14 Joubu will have a look, yes
10:14 cait #action Joubu or fridolin to submit HEA patches for 3.16
10:14 mtj yes please :0)
10:14 BobB #action mtj to backport HEA to 3.16
10:14 cait mtj: want an #action? :)
10:14 paul_p let's submit the patch then ;-) ( Joubu / fridolin = can you take care of that pls )
10:13 mtj awesome ^
10:13 paul_p (as most of our customers are using it)
10:13 paul_p and we've already done it for 3.14
10:13 mtj paul_p: i'd be keen to backport HEA to 3.16
10:13 paul_p cait yes, of course. And that's why that would be good to have it backported !
10:13 cait #topic KohaCon15
10:13 cait will take us some more time too
10:12 BobB cait, joubu ++
10:12 cait paul_p: also a thing to keep in mind - many people might not have updated to 3.18 yet
10:12 cait #action Joubu will send info about HEA to the mailing list and the newsletter
10:12 cait ready to move on to the next topic?
10:12 Joubu paul_p: k
10:11 paul_p Joubu I let you drop an email about that, OK ?
10:11 paul_p cait + Joubu ++ !
10:11 cait today was the call
10:11 Joubu paul_p: Maybe a mail on the koha ml + the news letter could be useful
10:11 mtj #info i'll be pushing some commits to the 3.16 branch over the next few days
10:11 cait maybe we could put it in the newsletter?
10:11 paul_p ashimema ;-)
10:11 ashimema I've been meaning to activate our 3.18's
10:11 ashimema ooh.. thanks for the reminder paul..
10:11 mveron #info Marc Véron, marc veron ag / Koha Support Schweiz
10:11 cait i know we don't transmit personal information, but it shoudl still be opt-in
10:10 cait we shoud not have a koha that calls out to another website by default
10:10 cait #info please test bug 13577 to fix a problem with the installer
10:10 paul_p cait what do you mean by "highly critical" ?
10:10 Joubu blocker, NSO
10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The correct COLLATE set to all DB tables
10:10 Joubu cait: bug 13577 fixes the installer problem
10:09 cait paul_p: i think activating by default is highly critical
10:09 fridolin since there is 3.16;x and 3.18.x
10:09 paul_p I'd like to see HEA backported to previous versions. And maybe activated by default (because, for now, there's "no-one" that has activated it : only 53, most of them -if not all- come from BibLibre)
10:09 cait do you have the bug number for testing?
10:09 fridolin i m adding only a few patches on 3.14.x to keep a stable version
10:09 cait ah ok
10:08 Joubu cait: installer is broken, patch sent this morning
10:08 * mtj reads the scrollback
10:08 cait updates on the releases? :)
10:08 * fridolin i'm here
10:08 BobB ah sorry mtj
10:08 mtj ..sorry, didnt realise a meeting was on
10:08 cait #info UTF-8 patches got pushed to master yesterday - keep an eye out for any encoding problems
10:07 BobB #info I know Mason is on track to release 3.16.7 on 22 Jan
10:07 mtj hi all
10:07 BobB mtj about?
10:07 cait but it looks like all is quite well on track I think
10:07 cait I think we are a bit short on RM and RMaints this meeting
10:06 cait #topic Updates on Releases
10:06 paul_p I don't think so.
10:06 cait ok, something else?
10:06 cait hotel is booked for me,still waiting for the train tickets - were not available last time i tried :)
10:06 paul_p cait should come soon
10:06 ashimema will register properly once I know exact details of our lot this end
10:06 cait paul_p: google doc? ;)
10:05 paul_p ashimema ++++ !
10:05 BobB sadly not us
10:05 paul_p there are already many registrations, and that will be a great time :D
10:05 ashimema I'm just booking hotels and flights paul_p.. just bending colinc's arm, alex will be there for the whole period and I hope to join for at least half (with baby on the way that's a bit up in the air ;) )
10:05 cait #info The hackfest in Marseille is from Marc 2nd - 6th and will take place in 2 locations (20 mins apart)
10:05 paul_p bag told me that he expect to have ElasticSearch search working & ready to be tested for the hackfest
10:05 paul_p as already announced on koha-devel : Hackfest in Marseille will take place in March, 2nd-6th. It will take place in 2 locations (20mn distant), so we should have a lot of space
10:04 cait but i will take anything
10:04 cait that there is one .)
10:04 cait heh
10:04 BobB #info Asian Cup: Australia 4 Oman 0
10:04 paul_p cait what kind of announcement would you like ? ;-)
10:03 cait paul_p: hackfest maybe? :)
10:03 cait #topic Announcements
10:03 cait ok, moving on :)
10:03 BobB hi paul_p
10:02 paul_p (hello all, and good morning, evening, afternoon, or night night)
10:02 thd #info: Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
10:02 ashimema cheers thd.. I'll call you :)
10:02 paul_p #info Paul Poulain, BibLibre
10:02 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
10:02 jransom #info joann ransom, horowhenua, nz.
10:02 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre
10:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
10:01 cait #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_14_January_2015
10:01 thd ashimema: I am at +1 212-674-3783
10:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx Australia
10:01 cait please introduce yourself with #info
10:01 BobB ashimena there is only one meeting today: a decision of the last meeting'
10:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
10:01 cait #topic Introductions
10:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__14th_january_2015'
10:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
10:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 14 10:01:23 2015 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:01 cait #startmeeting General IRC Meeting, 14th January 2015
10:01 thd ashimema: What number should I call at 7 am EST?
10:01 ashimema especially as neither of us has too much time at the minute to start implementing anything we discuss/decide upon.. delaying a decision won't delay the action.. yet
10:01 cait ok, i wil start it and we see what happens?
10:00 ashimema I'm fine with that.. makes reasonable sense..
10:00 BobB hi all
10:00 thd ashimema: I suggest we defer decisions about wiki management until the next general meeting while we discuss options.
09:59 ashimema i'm getting called away any minute too cait :(
09:59 ashimema i was just working that out ;)
09:59 ashimema I should be free for a chat between 7am and 11am your time today if that helps
09:59 cait who is around for the meeting and would maybe be willing to take over chair/chair?
09:59 cait ok, it's about meeting time now but i might get called awy...
09:59 thd ashimema: When would be a good time to talk on telephone?
09:58 wahanui okay, thd.
09:58 thd ashimema: I think you are also a little confused about the function of some installed extensions.
09:58 ashimema cool..
09:58 thd I have the time to implement any good ideas or at least I expect to start to have proper time from mid-February.
09:57 ashimema early riser then ;)
09:57 thd Nothing was nasty and you have some good ideas
09:56 ashimema oh.. 5am.. i was thinking it was 5pm..
09:56 ashimema they were meant to be constructive btw.. hope they're werent too nasty sounding..
09:56 thd It is 5 am in NYC.
09:56 thd ashimema: I saw your criticisms while I was in California but I did not have any opportunity until now to try to communicate with you properly.
09:56 ashimema hmm.. your lateish afternoon over there right now right..
09:55 ashimema I can skype out to you to keep the costs down.. as I said I'm a little tied this morning (UK time)
09:55 thd ashimema: I am based in New York City but would be happy to call you wherever.
09:54 ashimema sure thd.. erm.. remind me. where are you based?
09:54 jransom cheers
09:54 ashimema Hi jo.. meeting hasn't quite started yet.. but when it does stick an #info infront of that ;)
09:54 thd ashimema Is there some time we could talk on telephone?
09:53 jransom hi everyone: jo ransom, horowhenua (nz)
09:53 thd ashimema: I suggest that we try to reach a consensus or at least a common understanding about the wiki.
09:53 ashimema i'll be about for another 20 mins or so.. then I have another call so will be trying to dip in and out of the two meetings :(
09:52 wahanui well, ashimema is on qa now .)
09:52 thd Yes ashimema
09:51 ashimema i was in a call and a colleague picked up.
09:51 ashimema did you just call?
09:51 ashimema hi thd
09:34 thd ashimema: Could we discuss your ideas for the wiki?
09:27 cait ashimema++ thx!
09:26 magnuse ashimema++
09:26 ashimema sent a reminder to the list.. bit late but hopefulyl some may see it
09:25 ashimema done
09:20 cait aah it's at "11" - 40 minutes
09:18 cait hm is that now or later?
09:16 Joubu * AGREED: The next meeting will be held on 14 January 2015 at 10 UTC
09:16 ashimema ooh.. meeting
09:13 cait my meeting got cancelled, will be back in 5 mins if we want to have one
09:13 cait hm i think there should be an IRC meeting about now
09:04 Joubu better :)
09:04 magnuse hehe
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09:04 Joubu @karma
09:04 Joubu ie--
09:04 Joubu whaou
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09:03 Joubu @karma
09:00 magnuse who can reset that for the new year?
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09:00 magnuse @karma
09:00 magnuse Joubu++
08:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
08:41 Joubu info: bug 11944 breaks the installer, follow-up coming soon
08:29 wahanui hi, gaetan_B
08:29 gaetan_B hello