Time Nick Message 20:55 tcohen run it like that 20:55 tcohen KOHA_USER=kohaadmin KOHA_PASS=katikoan KOHA_INTRANET_URL=http://koha-dev.biblioadmin KOHA_OPAC_URL=http://koha-dev.biblio prove -v t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t 20:41 anonymous hello? 20:41 wahanui anonymous? 20:41 anonymous wahanui? 20:41 anonymous go? 20:40 anonymous stop? 20:40 wahanui anonymous? 20:40 anonymous wahanui? 20:40 wahanui hmmm... fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour 20:40 anonymous fun? 20:38 cait tried on top of the utf-8 patches and only with the tests 20:38 cait tcohen: no success with running the tests at all :( 20:37 huginn cait: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] 20:37 cait @marc 245 20:31 wahanui internet is not working here properly... I may disappear 20:31 anonymous internet? 20:31 wahanui i guess eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006. 20:31 cait eythian? 20:31 wahanui hmmm... wizzyrea is silly 20:31 wizzyrea wizzyrea? 20:30 huginn cait: You know the answer better than I. 20:30 cait @eightball will we get snow tomorrow? 20:30 wizzyrea true. 20:30 wahanui you are silly 20:30 wizzyrea wizzyrea? 20:30 wizzyrea hehe hadn't gone down that particular path before. 20:30 wahanui germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 20:30 wizzyrea germs? 20:30 wahanui somebody said germany was where germs come from. Ask me about germs. 20:30 wizzyrea germany? 20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 20:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (9:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 20:30 wahanui i guess bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff 20:30 rangi bug 7143 20:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:30 wahanui i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany. 20:30 wizzyrea cait? 20:30 wahanui i think tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts 20:30 cait tcohen? 20:29 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 20:29 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 20:29 wizzyrea @quote get 123 20:29 brandon yum 20:29 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 20:29 rangi rangi? 20:29 rangi and some that arent 20:29 rangi there are a couple of bots in here that are helpful 20:29 rangi this is the main koha channel 19:55 cait cool :) 19:55 tcohen rangi: cool 19:53 rangi if people are interested #kohaacademy is where the students will be hanging out 19:52 wizzyrea in discussion is fine 19:38 huginn tcohen: paul_p was last seen in #koha 4 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <paul_p> tcohen = it worked 19:38 tcohen @seen paul_p 18:43 francharb Is there a wiki page to know which status I should use when signing off? I worked on two patches, I have questions about them, which status should I use? "In discussion" ? 18:41 francharb Belated happy new year 18:41 francharb Hello all 18:17 bag morning 17:19 cait i will change it to an enh request if you have proof it's nt a bug ;) 17:18 cait yep 17:18 Joubu at least to know if it's a bug or not 17:18 cait that's alright :) 17:18 cait there is no help 17:18 Joubu cait: quite late now, I will take a look tomorrow :) 17:18 cait it's hard to tell 17:18 Joubu cait: do you think it's a bug? 17:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13562 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item search: Not possible to add other search fields from 952? 17:17 cait bug 13562 17:16 cait ah, trying to figure out the item search form 17:16 Joubu cait: yep 17:11 cait you shouldn# be.. but who knows :) 17:11 cait Joubu: still around? 16:49 cait i configured it in administration for 952 1 with pull down LOST 16:48 cait i can#t get it to work so it finds lost statuses :( 16:46 cait hm question: the new item search uses sql, right? 16:46 * ashimema again feels a need to get an angular patch in. 16:46 ashimema ack.. we do full page reloads far too often :( 16:11 cait ah, thought it might have been a requirement 16:10 Joubu I don't know, I would say no 16:08 cait should it be optional? 16:07 Joubu cait: in summary, not difficult, but not trivial :) 16:06 Joubu cait: actually, maybe this check could be removed, and keep the date filled by the user 16:05 cait more date magic... seems it's my fate 16:05 cait ah 16:05 cait working through notes from the phone conf today, will try to later! 16:05 Joubu the date is recalculated in the pl script if the onsite is checked 16:05 reiveune bye 16:04 Joubu cait: have a look at circ/circulation.pl l.163-165 16:04 cait mean Joubu - made it so i can't cheat! :) 16:04 Joubu cait: it should be too difficult to do, but yes you cannot cheat :) 15:58 cait i will file an enh request for them, maybe i will get to take a deeper look 15:58 cait Joubu: i treid cheating by entering another date in the form... but it still calculates for the next day, so it's not that easy :) 15:52 ashimema a colegue of mine does the implimentations of this though.. so I'm not exactly sure of the current state of affairs 15:52 ashimema there are also patches in koha now to prevent the need to modifying additional bits I beleive.. 15:51 ashimema it does indeed work to a decent extent without additional modifcation.. 15:51 cait so you can come back and continue working with the materials 15:51 cait they have a special shelf 15:51 cait i have a library interested in the feature - but they store the items longer than a day for the users to use in the reading room 15:50 Joubu cait: What is the workflow? To reserve a on-site checkout? 15:48 cait Joubu: do you think it would be hard to allow a library to choose the on-site checkout due date? 15:39 gerundio they do refer "and get greater integration", so I read it as it also works to some extent without the core patches 15:39 Joubu if you have the ressources to maintain your own fork, you can do it 15:38 Joubu Actually it depends what you patch 15:38 Joubu gerundio: yes 15:31 gerundio cait, nevertheless, patching koha core files is always a bad principle, right? 14:54 cait ashimema: might know 14:54 cait gerundio: sorry, we are not using it 14:39 gerundio any thoughts on this? 14:39 gerundio "patch Koha files" sounds bad 14:39 gerundio somewhere in the github plugin page it reads: "use Patches folder to patch core Koha files and get greater integration." 14:38 gerundio and some more from https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin 14:38 gerundio just read some info about it from the April 2014 newsletter at http://koha-community.org/koha-community-newsletter-april-2014/#ebsco 14:37 gerundio just got a request regarding setting up a koha installation for EBSCO's EDS 14:36 gerundio hi all 14:22 nengard hola magnuse 14:22 magnuse kia ora nengard 14:12 tcohen oh, ok 14:12 khall I filed to the followup to correct some koha-qa issues, but felt I was unable to test the patches properly in order to sign them 14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , More »System information« about GRS1 vs DOM settings 14:11 tcohen khall: is it possible that you added the QA followup but forgot to sign+pass-qa on bug 13404? 14:01 magnuse indeed it is 14:00 wahanui it has been said that lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting 14:00 magnuse ashimema: lunchtime? 13:56 ashimema no wonder i'm really hungry 13:56 ashimema ack.. is that really the time.. 13:50 marcelr from the code 13:50 marcelr yes 13:50 cait that's the needs signoff? 13:49 cait ah 13:49 marcelr could be different from lastchange 13:49 marcelr it removes enh and new feat; not sure what lastdiffed is 13:49 marcelr cait: SELECT bugs.bug_id,short_desc FROM bugs WHERE bug_status ='Needs Signoff' and bug_severity <> 'enhancement' and bug_severity <> 'new feature' ORDER by lastdiffed limit 10; 13:49 cait but i think it does that, just th elogic is not totally clear to me 13:48 cait i am ok with bugs first, but showing enh too 13:45 marcelr oldest first 13:45 marcelr i think we should see them all: bugfix and enhs and new features 13:44 cait maybe resticted to bugs first? 13:44 cait marcelr: i had asked rangi btw - he said it's always the oldest from change date - but I think it's not quite all to it 13:36 magnuse cool 13:36 magnuse https://github.com/Koha-Community/koha-dashboard 13:35 marcelr yeah probably; discussing it first 13:34 magnuse marcelr: i think you can send rangi a pull request? 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8994 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Make FindDuplicateAuthority behaviour customizable 13:22 marcelr Joubu: we talked about the dashboard recently: why is bug 8994 not listed with the oldest 10? note that its last status change is 2013-10-28. If the reason is that it is an enhancement, I think we should remove the filter on bugfix ? 13:05 ashimema so if said staff member hot desks.. they may forget which till they attributed the money to before and after lunch.. if they're silly that is ;) 13:04 ashimema just a staff member and which session they took the transaction in.. as far as I know at least.. 13:04 ashimema ;) 13:04 ashimema the action_logs still don't give you a reliable physical location 13:04 kivilahtio lunch 13:03 ashimema but such a cookie could also be used to increase staff client security (in a similar sort of way to the IP restrictions stuff).. i.e. the StaffClientID cookie must be present to allow a staff session to auth at all 13:03 kivilahtio ashimema: But you can tell from the action_logs/statistics -tables where the money was paid and for what purpose? 13:03 kivilahtio ashimema: we solved this by simply collecting all the money to one place, and than splitting it based on the capita 13:02 kivilahtio ashimema: I understand 13:02 ashimema i.e patron x paid some money in today.. now where on earth did that money end up ;) 13:02 ashimema it's for allowing a cash up at the end of the day ;) 13:01 ashimema s/staffs memeber/staff members/ 13:01 ashimema whereever you keep the money ;) 13:01 ashimema yup.. cash register, box under the desk, staffs memeber pocket.. 13:01 kivilahtio atleast i am 13:01 kivilahtio ashimema: like the cash register? 13:01 ashimema haha. 13:00 kivilahtio w eare getting paid to do our work after all 13:00 ashimema a till in this case is the place you collect monies throughout the day. 13:00 kivilahtio ashimema: I agree, we should be monitored 13:00 ashimema and yeah.. staff client only.. really a staff member should always assume they're being monitored at work ;) 13:00 kivilahtio ashimema: what is a 'till' 13:00 kivilahtio ashimema: I see 13:00 ashimema but that's their own fault.. i'm trying to not be too intrusive.. 12:59 ashimema yup.. there is indeed that user who clears they're cookies all the time.. for them, the 'convenience' of not having to select a 'till' at every login will be lost ;) 12:59 kivilahtio before I reindex the WHOLE DB 12:59 kivilahtio gotta go get some lunch 12:59 kivilahtio :) 12:59 ashimema haha 12:59 kivilahtio ashimema: I am calling the cops 12:59 ashimema as much as I can obfuscate that of course 12:58 ashimema also. there's intentionally going to be no link between a user and a machine in this context.. 12:58 kivilahtio Now I know why we have this new feature in Koha which collect "anonymous" usage statistics from all Kohalibraries 12:58 magnuse :-) 12:58 ashimema FBI would want to trakc the enitre world for everything.. 12:58 ashimema different here will be it's staff client only, and optional.. 12:58 kivilahtio ashimema: what about the user who constantly clears his browser cookie cache? 12:58 ashimema i'm writing the stuff now.. 12:58 * magnuse suspects ashimema of being hired by the fbi 12:57 kivilahtio ashimema: Google isn't evil :) 12:57 ashimema it's so I can persistently link a computer to a 'till' for our cash management work.. and may have some other uses later if people like it ;) 12:57 kivilahtio ashimema: That sound like evil 12:57 jcamins magnuse: a bit of a problem, yeah. 12:57 ashimema CGISESSID wouldn't do that ;) 12:56 ashimema kivilahtio: CGISESSID is session specific.. I want machine specific across sessions ;) i.e. one user can logout, and then another one login on the same machine.. but they should both get the same machine ID tracked between logins.. 12:56 magnuse at least for users coming from grs1? 12:56 magnuse so does this mean there is a major problem with the upgrade to 3.18.x? 12:56 magnuse probably :-) 12:55 jcamins Okay, so it was just seeming weird because it was exported for the wrong format. 12:55 magnuse memMax: 50M 12:55 jcamins memMax 12:55 magnuse setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 "fixed", meaning no errors and search works again 12:55 jcamins I think what you want is toward the bottom. 12:55 jcamins That's disk space. 12:54 magnuse shadow: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow:20G 12:54 magnuse register: /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register:20G 12:53 jcamins The weirdness of the record may go away when you fix that. 12:53 jcamins And, of course, you're indexing with DOM but exporting as GRS-1 or vice versa. 12:53 jcamins In that case, sounds like you have a weird record. 12:53 magnuse nah, i think it was from from 3.16, or maybe .14. definitely not as far back as 3.6 12:52 jcamins magnuse: there's a RAM limit that we increased at some point. 12:51 jcamins 3.6ish, maybe? 12:51 jcamins magnuse: sounds like an upgrade from a pretty old version? 12:44 magnuse it's not my server, so i don't want to be too drastic :-) 12:43 magnuse ah, yes i better have a good look at koha-conf.xml 12:41 tcohen if it was my own problem, I'd just recreate the instances with DOM and load the DB on it 12:41 tcohen what koha-conf.xml points authorityserver and biblioserver to 12:40 magnuse let me check 12:40 magnuse tcohen: wht do you mean by "actual configuration"? 12:40 tcohen what does the about page say? 12:40 tcohen well... those two are used by rebuild_zebra.pl.... 12:39 tcohen but it doesnt make sense, because it is a zebra error 12:39 tcohen you should try those two settings match your actual configuration 12:39 tcohen it is some misconfiguration on the files, carried between updates 12:38 magnuse tcohen: possibly? 12:38 magnuse hm, found an email that suggests setting zebra_bib_index_mode = zebra_auth_index_mode = grs1 (i had it set to "dom"). trying that now 12:35 tcohen magnuse: IO problems? 12:34 magnuse anyone got an inkling abut what that last error might be? 12:34 magnuse there's ~80k records and 6GB memory, so that shouldn't really be a problem 12:33 magnuse this is after a package upgrade to 3.18.2 12:33 magnuse but i'm also getting "11:56:10-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [fatal] Out of memory - malloc (302080000 bytes)" 12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13396 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update 12:32 magnuse hm, someone asked me to look at an indexing problem. i'm seeing "11:45:49-12/01 zebraidx(14570) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]" which looks similar to bug 13396 12:31 kivilahtio ashimema: how about the CGISESSID. It is already unique regardless if the IP/port 12:30 magnuse it's just one of the coldest places in norway right now 12:30 magnuse nope, luckily :-) 12:29 marcelr did you move? 12:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -37.9°C (1:25 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Windchill: -38.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 12:29 magnuse @wunder karasjok 12:28 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 24.0°C (9:00 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 12:28 tcohen @wunder SACO 12:27 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 27.6°C (9:25 AM ART on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 12:27 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina 12:27 * magnuse moves to right in front of the fireplace 12:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady). 12:27 magnuse @wunder boo 12:27 marcelr hi tcohen 12:26 magnuse kia ora tcohen 12:25 tcohen morning 11:37 ashimema Hmm.. think I'll add a cookie, or localStorage to give a client a unique ID (and make it optional) 11:33 ashimema not that I can see 11:33 kivilahtio ashimema: no port? 11:19 ashimema I need somthing that ties more directly to a machine than an IP which is often a full subnet of machines ;) 11:19 ashimema that looks like it just records the IP rather than anything more specific to me.. 11:17 kivilahtio ashimema: cheers yourself! Cook something cool with it! 11:17 ashimema cheers kivi.. I had a feeling that 'might' be the case 11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: it is a crazy mess but I think the data is there 11:16 ashimema why do we have both a user session, and a user env, and when should we use one or the other for what 11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: check the session-table 11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: we do 11:16 ashimema OK, another stupid question here.. especially as I should really know.. 11:07 ashimema we don't already track the client (i.e. machine) used to loging to the staff client at any point do we? 10:32 kivilahtio magnuse: I guess it is simply because of habits that chesse is called chesse. 10:31 kivilahtio magnuse: and why should it? THere is a great pizzeria here, it's called "Roihu", they have the bestest dairy-free cheese 10:31 kivilahtio magnuse: I agree 10:31 magnuse ah milk-less cheese? we do have that, but it can't legally be called cheese 10:15 kivilahtio Joubu: I think I'll find something 10:13 kivilahtio magnuse: milk is murder.. sorry guys 10:13 magnuse marseille sans le fromage? noooo 10:12 Joubu So not sure you have a good reason to come :p 10:12 kivilahtio not really 10:12 Joubu too bad 10:12 kivilahtio I cant eat cheese 10:11 Joubu at least for the cheeses 10:11 kivilahtio I have a gut feeling management doen'st share my enthusiasm 10:11 Joubu you should come :) 10:11 kivilahtio I am still meditationg on it 10:11 kivilahtio nice 10:11 Joubu kivilahtio: yes, of course 10:11 kivilahtio Joubu: are you coming to the hackfest? 10:11 Joubu kivilahtio: it will retrieve 100 patron data, instead of 20 :) 10:09 kivilahtio I always forget it :( 10:09 kivilahtio Also I could use the column sorting more 10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: unless it finds each patron one by one :) 10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: shoudln't make any difference regarding patron search 10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: but will keep it in mind, maybe I'll just set it to 100 10:08 kivilahtio Joubu: ok, we are still using 3.16.4 10:07 Joubu try -1, but be careful for tables retrieving data in ajax (patrons search for instance) 10:07 Joubu "iDisplayLength": 20 10:07 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks 10:07 Joubu l.~28 10:07 Joubu kivilahtio: you can have a look at js/datatables.js 10:05 kivilahtio Joubu, hmm, ok 10:05 Joubu kivilahtio: not for all tables, some tables use ajax 10:05 kivilahtio Joubu: I guess I could add a staff client javascript snippet 10:05 kivilahtio nope 10:05 Joubu kivilahtio: did you try to do it using JS? 10:05 kivilahtio why not? Datatables receives all the data at once 10:05 Joubu There is nothing to show all results in a table (could be easy to do, but you certainly don't want to show all results for all tables) 10:04 kivilahtio it is actualyl really annoying :( 10:04 kivilahtio It would be nice if I wouldn't have to always select Show All Fields in the DT. 10:04 Joubu kivilahtio: "undo item deletion": I don't think so 10:03 kivilahtio Also is tehre a feature to automatically show all results in the databasles? 10:00 kivilahtio do we have a regret-button for item deletion? Librarians are reporting missing Items, but they seem to be simply deleted items. Culdn't find a bugzilal entry for "undoing item deletion"? 09:53 cait phone conf bbl 09:52 ashimema perhaps 09:50 matts maybe he'll come back :) 09:50 ashimema matts ignore that.. he's gone before he got an answer 09:49 ashimema matts about ^ 09:36 grharry Hello! Anybody using CAS for authentication out there ?? 09:28 Joubu lol 09:28 ashimema hello #koha 09:28 ashimema_ bye #koha 09:27 cait hm can't verify, but it might be 09:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10402 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add multiple contacts for vendors 09:26 Joubu cait: so the bug should exist since bug 10402 is pushed 09:25 Joubu Actually, the known bug is that we sent an object to the template, and C4::Templates does not encode correctly data contained in objects 09:24 cait we are currently testing 3.18 09:24 cait maybe we just ran into it now because we have been using mostly 3.12 so far 09:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13555 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Encoding problems on the vendor summary and edit pages 09:23 cait i filed bug 13555 09:23 Joubu you need to escape the string with the html_entity TT filter in the template 09:22 cait do you know if there is a bug already? 09:22 Joubu that's the main reason we need 11944... 09:22 Joubu cait: it's a known bug 09:21 cait and thx for checking! 09:20 cait filing a slightly confused bug, sec 09:20 Joubu B�rbel 09:20 Joubu cait: it's broken here too 09:19 cait /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/supplier.pl?booksellerid=2 09:19 cait first the template strings and the data (Bärbel as name for the contact) were broken- now the template strings show ok and only the database data is wrong... i am confused. 09:18 cait i hate things like this 09:18 wahanui hmmm... the problem is that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values 09:18 cait the problem 09:18 cait it goes away sometimes 09:18 cait the problem is, when i checked friday it was ok, today the coworker snt me the link and it's broken 09:18 cait yep 09:17 Joubu cait: acqui/supplier.pl ? 09:13 cait ... and could you check if accents/diacricits display for you correctly in a vendor showing in french? we see werid things happening there in 3.18 :( 09:12 cait np 09:12 Joubu cait: I will have a look again in a few minutes 09:07 cait Joubu: i tried limiting to a specific year this morning and it didn't seem to work - the older year was still showing up - do the filters work for you? i changed around some things so not totally sure about my test 09:06 ashimema_ though I haven't worked out whether Colin and I should be around at he same time or only overlap for a day 09:06 ashimema_ So long as my scheming goes to plan, Alex will be about for the whole week, and Colin and I will each be around for 3 days of it. 09:04 cait who is we? :) 09:04 ashimema_ nd let Paul know we're coming :) 09:03 ashimema_ Hackfest.. that reminds me, I must ook a hotel 09:03 Joubu cait: with the last patch, it seems to work. But it shouldn't 09:03 cait it didn't limit correctly when i tried this morning, but didn't explode either 09:02 cait try limiting the filters 09:02 cait hm think it doesn't 09:02 * Joubu does not understand why it works... 09:01 cait thinking ther emust be an easy way to do this... like a best practice 09:01 cait i tried to get it working before work this morning, but coudln't figure out how 09:00 Joubu aa 09:00 Joubu h 09:00 cait but i think we only want a date and it will give a datetime 08:59 cait wellc urrent date 08:59 cait that shoudl fix the problem with the now 08:59 cait yes 08:59 Joubu cait: did you see I submited a new patch? 08:59 Joubu cait: hum? I didn't understand 08:58 cait when we only want a iso formatted date 08:58 cait t 08:58 cait it seems it always returns a datetime objec 08:58 cait Joubu: are you sure the time won't be given with dt_from_string? 08:56 Joubu o/ 08:52 kivilahtio hi wahanui 08:52 kivilahtio ha everybosdy 08:52 kivilahtio hi cait 08:50 cait hi magnuse hi kivilahtio 08:45 kivilahtio sounds like aplan! 08:45 kivilahtio I could optimize by flying to Oslo, then sleeping on somebodys couch for a month, then flying to Marseilles 08:45 kivilahtio well... priorize 08:44 kivilahtio magnuse: so I am notsure how our travel fund allows me to get everywhere 08:44 kivilahtio magnuse: we are planning to visit Oslo sometime next month 08:44 magnuse :-) 08:44 magnuse hmmm, yes you should 08:44 kivilahtio hmmm should i try to make it to the hackfest? 08:43 kivilahtio ki ora magnuse 08:43 marcelr hi magnuse 08:43 magnuse hiya cait marcelr ashimema_ kivilahtio et al 08:40 marcelr :) 08:37 cait hi marcelr 08:30 marcelr hi #koha 08:18 cait morning ashimema :) 08:16 ashimema_ morning cait 08:15 ashimema_ morning magnuse 08:14 ashimema_ ok.. that was wierd 08:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.6°C (9:10 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling). 08:13 magnuse @wunder karasjok 08:09 * brian_ slaps ashimema_ around a bit with a large fishbot 08:01 alex_a bonjour 07:54 fridolin hie all 07:52 huginn ashimema_: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.4°C (7:50 AM GMT on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 07:52 ashimema_ @wunder stevenage, uk 07:52 ashimema_ boo, I missed cait 07:51 ashimema_ morning #koha 07:50 reiveune hello 07:43 cait bbiab 07:43 cait looks like more rain today, still so dark 07:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.2°C (8:40 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 07:42 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:42 * cait waves 06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in ENONTEKIO, Norway is -37.0°C (8:50 AM EET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 06:57 magnuse @wunder kautokeino 06:57 magnuse now that is pretty cold 06:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -39.8°C (7:55 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -43.0°C. Windchill: -40.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 06:57 magnuse @wunder karasjok 06:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in FAUSKE, ved smabathavna., 8200 FAUSKE, Norway is -10.3°C (7:56 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). 06:56 magnuse @wunder rognan, norway 06:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). 06:56 magnuse @wunder boo 06:56 * magnuse waves 06:15 cait hm too late i guess 06:15 cait eythian: around maybe? 04:34 dcook laters 04:33 eythian anyway, I need to head off to training. Later. 04:33 eythian quite possibly :) 04:32 dcook Must be madness for non-English speakers 04:32 dcook That's awesome 04:32 dcook I figured it would be update/insert 04:31 eythian but, I won't have time for that just now. 04:29 eythian that's the bit I haven't tested yet 04:29 eythian so if the borrower doesn't exist, it's created 04:29 eythian update/insert 04:28 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsert :) 04:28 dcook upsert? 04:28 dcook :D 04:28 eythian (i.e. in this case, it updates the user with cardnumber 10002 to have an extended attribute 'FOO' with value 'test' and have a firstname 'testname') 04:27 eythian but it gives you an API to add or update a borrower. 04:27 eythian mostly, I haven't tested it all 04:27 eythian so that works now 04:27 eythian perl svc/members/upsert 'matchField=cardnumber' 'cardnumber=10002' 'FOO=test' 'firstname=testname' 02:59 dcook Glad that I got my advanced Mogwai tickets at least 02:59 dcook Ok, I'll stop rambling about how bitter I am about that :p 02:59 dcook Which meant that not everyone who went even actually wanted to see it :S 02:59 dcook I think a lot of people bought tickets because it was marketed so well. 02:59 dcook Actually, that was an interesting thing about that show. It was so popular. Enoromously popular. 02:58 dcook More money than sense that fellow 02:58 dcook Agreed 02:58 dcook Flew to the other cities for the shows before they got to our home town 02:58 eythian that's just greedy. 02:58 dcook My girlfriend of the time knew a guy who bought tickets for 3 or 4 of their shows 02:57 * dcook is only slightly bitter 02:57 dcook Only minutes from my apartment! 02:57 dcook It would've been local for me :( 02:57 eythian and then bussed up to Christchurch for it, I think. 02:57 dcook Smart move 02:57 eythian ah, a friend and I booked early. 02:57 eythian It was pretty good. 02:57 dcook Tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes. I had overslept just barely but I figured I'd have a chance... nope. 02:56 dcook Still heartbroken over not seeing Iron Maiden in 2009 02:56 dcook That's quite the list! 02:56 dcook Well, not the worst. Just not good. 02:55 dcook Worst crowd ever.. 02:55 dcook Enjoy the band but it was an awful show :( 02:55 dcook I think that's when I saw Tool too 02:55 dcook 2007... 02:54 eythian http://www.last.fm/user/eythian/library/tags?tag=seen+live&view=cloud <-- I need to spend a bit of time and make that properly up to date 02:50 dcook Once upon a time, it was a show a week, but these days... I think I've seen less than a handful of gigs in the past 3 years :( 02:50 dcook Sadly, I've been able to keep track of everything in recent years :( 02:50 eythian sweet 02:49 eythian I'm trying to remember if I've seen them, I don't think I have, but I've started to lose track. 02:49 dcook We walked up to see if anyway had spare tickets... went to the counter and got awesome seats in the third row for next to nothing :) 02:49 dcook I'll never understand it... I was in town for a reptile expo, and it just so happened the venue was across from my hotel 02:49 dcook Although Gogol Bordello live were one of the best concerts I've been to I think 02:49 eythian fair enough 02:48 dcook And a definite lack of red wine 02:48 dcook Hmm, might be a bit early in the week for Gogol Bordello 02:48 eythian Try Gogol Bordello if you want something sorta weirdly in the middle 02:47 dcook I needed something with more energy anyway 02:47 dcook Hmm so much for my electro-indie afternoon. Metal it is... 02:46 dcook Oh my, I've stumbled upon a page of drummer jokes now.. 02:46 eythian heh 02:46 dcook A drummer. 02:46 dcook "What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?" 02:45 * dcook tries to remember how it goes.. 02:45 dcook Hmm, I wonder how many times the drummer has made jokes about bandmates... 02:44 eythian I wouldn't be surprised... 02:43 dcook Actually, I wonder if they did form after a long road trip... 02:40 dcook Yeah, I don't know how they'd do it without the drums 02:40 eythian haha 02:40 dcook My shower may or may not have heard a few renditions of Fear of the Dark.. 02:40 eythian though with real drums, but I guess you need that./ 02:40 eythian http://youtu.be/XCGQiGEYl4Y <-- an entertaining Nighwish cover 02:40 dcook It's like 6 talented people in the shower without the water and with a drum kit 02:39 dcook Seems like it 02:39 eythian they seem to have done a few 02:38 * dcook wonders how these people's brains work 02:38 dcook eythian: Damn that's creative! 02:33 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyHcIHssdHA <-- dcook 00:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)