Time  Nick         Message
23:30 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
23:30 dcook        @later tell tcohen back! I missed you too :)
23:09 dcook        Yep. It's pretty great. Now that summer is here/approaching, I need to remember that I can't go outside for 5 minutes without sunscreen.
22:48 eythian      spend all day walking in the sun and might be a little red at the end of it
22:48 eythian      yeah, I found that in Europe too.
22:46 dcook        But awesome
22:46 dcook        It was weird
22:45 dcook        You could be in the sun all the time and not burn
22:45 dcook        Oh man... the sun in Greece was awesome
22:41 wizzyrea     or ordered them online.
22:41 wizzyrea     besides "the internet" though that's a valid answer - I just want to know if they walked into a shop and bought them.
22:40 wizzyrea     please and thank you
22:40 eythian      locals should know that sun == death
22:40 wizzyrea     if they don't, at least find out where they got them ;)
22:40 eythian      it's possible they're only giving them out to people from overseas though
22:40 eythian      I'll see if they have extras
22:39 dcook        I need some of those beads :p
22:39 dcook        Those are rad
22:39 wizzyrea     i want some of those beads for soren.
22:39 rangi        i should get to see those in person tomorrow :)
22:39 wizzyrea     yeah, this is why libraries have staff. :P
22:38 dcook        It's a tough one. If you're only able to go to the library that day to print off your resume, and everyone else is hogging the computers (even if they are getting fines), that doesn't really help the person who needs to print off their resume :/
22:38 eythian      https://twitter.com/hypatiadotca/status/541070697716412417
22:38 * wizzyrea   is torn on being nice or being snarktastic
22:37 dcook        hehe
22:37 ibeardslee   .. or maybe if people don't have to deal with me ..
22:37 wizzyrea     haha.
22:36 ibeardslee   if I don't have to deal with people that's a win ;)
22:36 wizzyrea     "I can't do anything about it, the computer says your time is up"
22:36 wizzyrea     often you don't have a technical problem - you have a people problem that seems like you might have to be confrontational so you seek a technical solution to that.
22:35 wizzyrea     yeah, it's always been a peeve of mine when people try to solve people problems with an overuse of technology.
22:35 eythian      (those are the bits immediately after the paste)
22:35 eythian      <neale> cf: voting
22:35 eythian      <neale> It is a moral imperative
22:35 eythian      <SpaceHobo> haha yeah
22:35 eythian      <neale> SpaceHobo, what you don't understand is that we must apply technology to everything.
22:35 eythian      <neale> ha, nice
22:35 eythian      ibeardslee:
22:33 wizzyrea     even that's too complicated.
22:33 ibeardslee   scan your card to 'login' and that kicks you off after your time.
22:32 wizzyrea     a barcode, associated with a computer, with hourly loans and fines.
22:32 wizzyrea     but what they really need, and what I always advocated for, was exactly what he described there.
22:31 wizzyrea     yeah, libraries think they need complicated software to manage computers
22:28 eythian      http://youtu.be/9ZlBUglE6Hc <-- here's a guide
22:27 ibeardslee   walk home a different way
22:27 eythian      http://paste.koha-community.org/306 <-- related story about checking out the internet
22:26 dcook        Now it's close enough to walk to, but it's a bit past my house... so I never go that far after work :p
22:26 dcook        In the past, it was too far to walk from my house
22:26 dcook        Sounds interesting. I wish I were more connected with my local library
22:25 dcook        ibeardslee: I'm also thinking star trek
22:25 dcook        heya, eythian :)
22:25 eythian      what is this, star trek?
22:24 ibeardslee   instead of a library card, people get a tablet that gives access to the library's resources
22:24 eythian      dcook: hello!
22:24 * dcook      is always confused when people put question marks instead of full stops.
22:23 dcook        "I'm not sure I understand."*
22:23 dcook        Wait..
22:23 dcook        I'm not sure I understand?
22:23 ibeardslee   yes
22:23 wizzyrea     curated things
22:23 ibeardslee   and other research, information access
22:22 ibeardslee   electronic delivery of books
22:22 ibeardslee   yeah .. I had a discussion a while back with wizzyrea about how the library access is a tablet of some sort.
22:22 dcook        :p
22:22 dcook        Damn it, why don't libraries do that...
22:22 dcook        Very rad in fact
22:21 dcook        online checkout would be rad
22:21 dcook        Not to the users
22:21 dcook        But I suppose that's still shipping to a "central" location
22:21 dcook        I've heard stories about "libraries" that are essentially just post boxes
22:21 dcook        hehe
22:21 ibeardslee   .. feel free to tweak punctuation
22:21 dcook        Hmm, good question
22:20 ibeardslee   yeah true.  But I suppose once that has happened then, online checkout/delivery of books/access points are possible although, I imagine, costly.
22:19 dcook        If it's a public library, you almost always need to show some proof of residence
22:19 dcook        ibeardslee, depends on the library, I suppose?
22:18 ibeardslee   still need to find a way to bootstrap things like that .. do you still need to go irl to join a library?
22:13 * magnuse    waves at all the cool people then promptly falls asleep
21:35 wizzyrea     :( that sucks
21:35 jcamins      Yeah, open.
21:35 jcamins      Heh.
21:34 eythian      yeah, that sentence no verb.
21:34 wizzyrea     aren't what? open?
21:34 jcamins      wizzyrea: unfortunately, the libraries still aren't at times when people might want to go in to check out the access points.
21:24 wahanui      niihau, eythian
21:24 eythian      hi
21:15 ibeardslee   that and subsidising reality TV
21:10 wizzyrea     so they won't object.
21:10 wizzyrea     it's part of the plan to make good people feel hopeless.
21:09 * ibeardslee is too young to be so cynical
21:08 ibeardslee   unfortunately a big lotto win is more likely than less douchey politicians
21:06 wizzyrea     so dumb, I know we can do better at carbon emissions.
21:06 ibeardslee   yep .. paying for carbon credits so we can increase emmisions seems to be more important
21:05 wizzyrea     yeah, or less douchey politicians
21:05 ibeardslee   sigh .. for a big lotto win
21:04 wizzyrea     *nod*
21:04 ibeardslee   not that hard, .. although depends how you do it.  if you can get network to a community centre and encourage people to use that, it is a start
21:04 wizzyrea     though getting better maybe.
21:03 wizzyrea     some places that still have line of sight phone
21:03 wizzyrea     rural areas are a bit hard
21:03 wizzyrea     exactly
21:03 ibeardslee   we have a UFB network going through the country, we should be able to have a solid backbone that have ISPs peered
21:02 ibeardslee   NZ should be able to do something like that in all libraries
21:02 wahanui      wizzyrea: I forgot it
21:02 wizzyrea     forget it
21:02 wahanui      okay, wizzyrea.
21:02 wizzyrea     It is also testing its model with state library systems in Kansas and Maine. < NEKLS, to be exact.
21:01 wizzyrea     some libraries in kansas doing it too, I'm told.
21:00 wizzyrea     amazing eh
21:00 ibeardslee   Good to see things like that happen
20:59 ibeardslee   wizzyrea: ohhh
20:45 wizzyrea     ibeardslee: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/12/04/new-york-city-libraries-soon-will-let-patrons-check-out-the-internet/
20:26 * wizzyrea   gives a monday wave
19:09 cait         heh
19:08 drojf        i accidentally added >2mb translation stuff to a patch. that would have had a nice impact on my contributed lines ;)
19:02 drojf        sounds great :D
19:01 cait         and one roses and one with rapsberry... i think
19:01 cait         2kg ritter sport surprise bag? :)
19:01 cait         morning rangi
19:01 drojf        cait: oh chocolate. what did you bring for us? :)
19:01 drojf        hi rangi
19:00 rangi        morning
18:59 rangi        http://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences  sweet aleisha fixed the scaling issue
18:51 cait         we were at a chocolate christmas market...
18:50 drojf        oh nice
18:49 cait         sorry, just got back from a weekend trip
18:49 drojf        that was fun :)
18:49 drojf        hi
18:49 cait         oh hey :)
18:49 huginn       drojf: The operation succeeded.
18:49 drojf        @later tell cait ok :)
18:49 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
18:49 cait         @later tell drojf then we should fix it :)
18:48 cait         hi #koha
14:34 jcamins      drojf: not at all true, no.
14:11 drojf        the message for zebra_bib_grs_warn on about.pl suggests that setting zebra_bib_index_mode to 'dom' is enough to switch to dom indexing. is that true these days? (given the mail on the list, i assume it is not, but it sounds like it is supposed to?)
12:38 huginn       04Bug 9248: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Failed QA , Add a German Zebra language definition file
12:38 huginn       drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:38 drojf        @later tell cait you mean like http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9248 ? ;)
12:33 drojf        and since gprs is deprecated and all…
12:33 drojf        we should have up to date information on that somewhere, there will be more people with the wrong zebra_*_index_mode
12:32 drojf        i wasn't sure so i did not pass it around on the mailing list
12:31 drojf        is this page still valid? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing