Time Nick Message 00:00 cait sleeep 00:00 cait night :) 00:01 eythian bye 00:16 wajasu i'm just catching up on some wiki reading and i see DEPR1: non-XSLT search results and bib display templates deprecated 00:17 wajasu so i guess that means we don't maintain any TT perl code for serach results and biblio details display? 00:18 wajasu just do XSLT changes from now on? 00:19 tcohen the templates are still in place, and used to render most of the bolierplate 00:20 wajasu ok. 00:39 tcohen night #koha 03:13 eythian <grantm> http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/mstpan-2/ 03:13 eythian <grantm> http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/mstpan-1/ 04:05 eythian @later tell tcohen can you please push bug 13377 - I'd like rangi to be able to put it in 3.18.x asap. 04:05 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 04:06 mtj good info eythian ^ 04:50 * Oak waves 05:10 eythian rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't complain if you forget to install zebra :/ 05:57 * cait waves 06:26 Oak cait! 06:41 cait Oak! 07:29 drojf good monring #koha 07:29 drojf heh. morning even. too early 07:53 alex_a bonjour 07:53 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:56 Oak Bonjour Monsieur alex_a 07:56 alex_a salut Oak 07:56 Oak :) 07:57 Oak Bonjour Mademoiselle sophie_m 07:57 sophie_m Bonjour Oak, helle #koha 08:02 magnuse Oak 08:05 Oak magnuse 08:05 Oak \o/ 08:07 magnuse o/ 08:07 * magnuse waves to #koha 08:08 magnuse kia ora cait and BobB 08:08 BobB hi magnuse 08:21 Oak so the problem with 3.18 and Google Chrome on Windows (I posted) disappeared automagically. but .... did not post again, because it would sound more moronic that issue fixed itself. 08:22 Oak only logical explanation i can think of is that perhaps my uni's Squid was caching some old files from 3.16 and when cache expired the issue got fixed. 08:29 Oak more moronic not entirely because issue fixed it self but because i posted like, 4 or 5 messages. 08:41 Oak tough crowd. 08:42 drojf Oak: things like that happen. i would post a message saying it is resolved now anyway. 08:42 Oak hmm. okay. 08:45 cait_ @wunder Konstanz 08:45 huginn cait_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.1°C (9:45 AM CET on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 08:45 drojf hi cait_ 08:45 drojf i see it's snowing in bonn? 08:45 cait_ hi drojf 08:46 cait_ yeah it is 08:46 drojf brrr 08:46 cait_ are you watching the stream thi smorningß 08:46 cait_ bibframe? 08:46 wahanui https://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1372102329503089_animate.gif 08:46 drojf yes 08:47 Oak what stream? some Live stream? 08:48 drojf Oak: http://swib.org/swib14/ 08:48 drojf semantic web in libraries conference 08:48 Oak oooh. thanks! 08:48 cait_ hm irc connection via webchat doesn't seem very stabe 08:48 drojf Oak: you can see cait_s back sometimes during the breaks :) 08:49 cait_ trying, but the internet is beiing annoying 08:49 drojf i saw a picture of that internet 08:50 drojf https://twitter.com/swibcon/status/537978728325054464/photo/1 08:51 drojf cait_: https://twitter.com/swibcon/status/537978728325054464/photo/1 :D 10:45 drojf the swib14 stream sucks today :/ 10:56 * cait waves again 10:57 cait drojf: streaming is down because we had a power outage 10:57 cait in the whole street, i think from a building site close by killing a cable or something 10:58 drojf oh 10:58 drojf oops 10:58 cait ltewas completeley gone 10:58 cait yeah :) really bad timing! 10:58 drojf ok that explains :D 10:58 drojf seems to be alright again 10:58 cait we are back on the nternet now, but they haven't resumed the stremig yet I think 10:58 cait ah ok 10:58 drojf they have 11:00 cait so you see skosmos 11:00 drojf i do 11:00 drojf or listen to, mostly 11:04 ashimema \ 11:13 Joubu Hello 11:13 Joubu Is there a valid reason to limit authorised_values.category to varchar(16)? 11:14 cait hmm i think if we were going to change it 11:14 cait you need to check tables that refer it too 11:14 cait aqbudgets maybe? 11:14 cait hm also patron attributes probably 11:15 cait i think some things are referring to it 11:46 magnuse ooh, there is a catmandu advent calendar http://librecatproject.wordpress.com/ 12:33 tcohen morning 12:44 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 12:44 magnuse @wunder boo 12:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (1:20 PM CET on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). 12:44 tcohen hi magnuse 12:45 tcohen what fun stuff will we work on today? 12:45 magnuse + hail, thunder, lightning and almost storm winds 12:45 magnuse tcohen: 3.19 :-) 12:45 tcohen ok :-D 12:46 tcohen we have reached 1k views on the Koha community video 12:46 magnuse i'm working on another norwegian specialy - importing data about all norwegian libraries into koha, for use with ill 12:46 magnuse the video is awesome! 12:47 magnuse i'll see if i can do norwegian subtitles some time in 2015 :-) 12:51 oleonard Hi #koha 12:57 tcohen hi oleonard 12:57 tcohen oleonard: would you take a look at 13375? i'd like to know if it is a reasonable solution 12:59 oleonard Sure 13:00 cait giving up on the windows machine - back from the laptop with irc client :) 13:00 cait last 3 presentations now 13:00 tcohen hi cait 13:01 cait hi tcohen 13:05 cait did i scare oleonard-away away<ß 13:05 cait ? 13:05 cait typing question marks on the tablet keyboard is too hard :) 13:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13377: mark automatic_renewals.pl as executable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8c975d951694a80b73cd1f66e9a9095db2f484d> 13:14 oleonard Nope cait just stepped out for a moment 13:15 cait :) 13:15 cait we just talked about you and how great your work is here at the conf :) 13:15 nengard morning all 13:16 nengard I have a series of XSLT edits that we're working on that I want to submit patches for - should each change be it's own bug/patch? or should I do 1 bug listing all changes? 13:16 oleonard Yay I'm famous in Europe, just like David Hasselhoff! 13:17 nengard :) 13:19 cait nengard: depends on the change - i like small step things with easy to follow test plans 13:19 nengard that's what i figured 13:19 nengard it's basically changes to make us meet the RDA standard 13:19 cait ah 13:19 cait there are some changes in for that already 13:19 nengard right 13:19 cait from marcel 13:20 nengard i just have more :) 13:20 cait would be good to have a more complete thing 13:20 nengard so I'm thinking 1 bug per change 13:20 nengard just didn't want to submit too many bugs/patches 13:20 nengard but this way if one isn't right we can still apply the others 13:20 nengard sound like the safe way to go? 13:21 nengard oh way - i found this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10344 13:21 huginn 04Bug 10344: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Omnibus: add RDA support to Koha 13:21 nengard cool - so i'll do more little bugs and add them to this one 13:21 nengard as depends on 13:21 cait sounds good 13:21 oleonard tcohen: Your fix for Bug 13375 works but I don't know why :) 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13375 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Syspref search highlight styling broken in Chrome 13:22 cait magic! 13:22 cait oleonard: actually was talking to denials 13:22 cait so not sure if you can say europe :) 13:22 oleonard denials? 13:22 wahanui i think denials is *honoured* - the quality of the other talks has been very high! 13:22 cait but you shoudl be 13:23 cait od a whois :) 13:26 magnuse denials would be the author of e.g. bug 11786 13:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Stable , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap 13:26 magnuse denials++ 13:27 cait magnuse: go write a normarc version! 13:27 cait promised to nudge you 13:28 oleonard Oh I see. Hi denials :) 13:29 magnuse cait: yup, i should do that. in 2015 13:29 oleonard tcohen: This is nit-picky, but I think that change would be better with a <div> rather than a <span> because it sometimes contains block-level elements. 13:30 cait we can still improve it 13:30 magnuse there is plenty of cataching up to do for normarc. 2015 will not be a lazy year 13:30 cait we talked also about exposing more information about the library 13:30 cait like opening hours, teh library's name and website 13:30 magnuse i have been pondering one page per library 13:30 magnuse ah 13:31 magnuse cait: that would be very cool 13:31 cait i think that was the suggestion 13:31 magnuse and it could be linked from the library name in the items tables 13:31 cait i don't know enough about it yet 13:31 magnuse who suggested it? 13:31 cait go for it! :) 13:32 magnuse we already have a popup/hover thing for the library names in the items tables, but i think it might be broken? 13:32 cait i hope i got it right, but i think that was what denials mentioned - that we should link to a separate page 13:32 tcohen oleonard, do u need me to try the div? 13:33 oleonard I could just as easily post an alternate patch. It's up to you. 13:33 cait hm it should work think 13:33 cait link to the library on the name and tooltip with opacinfo 13:33 tcohen post an alternate one if you don't mind 13:33 tcohen i can sign it 13:33 tcohen thanks 13:35 magnuse cait: i was pretty sure i reported a bug, but maybe it was fixed. can't find the syspref for enabling it, though... 13:36 cait it should starting to work when the branch settings have something in opac info i think 13:36 cait and i thought we had fixed it - it was broken in bootsrap for a bit i think 13:36 tcohen magnuse: why haven't we patched the installer to show NORMARC yet? 13:36 cait nengard: not sure about hiding h in 245 13:36 nengard I have another ticket to explain where to show it 13:36 magnuse tcohen: it shows normarc if you choose nb-NO for the installation 13:37 nengard but feel free to reply 13:37 nengard I'd love feedback before the work begins later this week 13:37 cait we use that quite a lot and it helps identifying electronic resources in the result list 13:37 cait i am still tavelling 13:37 cait it might take me a few days 13:38 tcohen magnuse: it makes sense 13:39 magnuse tcohen: that is something i would like to do - move the marc frameworks out of the language specific directories 13:40 cait and use po? 13:41 nengard cait - i was going to suggest moving where it displays 13:41 nengard will put your comment on the ticket 13:41 magnuse right now, nb-NO has an old copy of the marc21 files from en, because i thought at one point that people might want to run the installer in norwegian and still be able to choose marc21. there is no norwegian translation of marc21, so letting them just choose the en version of marc21 would make a lot more sense than maintaining a copy 13:42 cait magnuse: yeah - fallback 13:42 cait nengard: not sure about rda yet - will have training mid-january 13:42 cait maybe then it will all start to make more sense :) 13:42 nengard :) rda says that the gmd is no longer used instead use a series of 33x fields 13:43 cait ah 13:43 oleonard Yeah and RDA also says that the local cataloger can do whatever the hell they want. 13:43 cait i think one genarl thng would be that we need to take care of 'mixed record sets' 13:44 cait so old an dnew records should make sense in display... hope it's doable 13:44 cait or we might need a second set of xslt altogether 13:47 denials cait, magnuse - that (one page per library, linked from the library name in the items tables) is _exactly_ what I was suggesting! yay for convergence 13:48 magnuse denials: yay! :-) 13:48 cait :) 13:48 magnuse shouldn't be very hard to do 13:48 magnuse i can't get the "OPAC info tooltip" to show, though 13:49 magnuse even with something in the opac info field 13:49 cait magnuse: hm any javascript errors? 13:50 magnuse there is one if i click anywhere on the page, but not if i just hover over the name 13:50 cait hm 13:51 magnuse testing on 3.16.4, spinning up my kohadevbox to test on master now 13:51 druthb cait! magnuse! 13:52 cait druthb! 13:53 oleonard magnuse: It works for me in master 13:55 oleonard Ah, but not in 3.16.x! 13:55 oleonard Bug 12428? 13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 13:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #266: UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/266/ 13:55 jenkins_koha Robin Sheat: Bug 13377: mark automatic_renewals.pl as executable 13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13377 major, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , automatic_renewals.pl not marked executable 13:55 oleonard Yeah, Bug 12428 hasn't been backported 13:56 cait hm that explains 13:56 magnuse druthb! 13:56 wahanui rumour has it druthb is more trouble than she's worth 13:56 oleonard wahanui!! 13:56 wahanui i am a bot 13:56 druthb true dat 13:57 cait oleonard! 13:57 wahanui rumour has it oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did 13:57 magnuse thanks oleonard! 13:57 magnuse so i wasn't imagining reporting a bug about that after all :-) 13:58 * oleonard will work up a patch for 3.16.x. 13:58 magnuse cool! 14:00 druthb Wonder when wahanui figured out that I'm more trouble than I'm worth. 14:00 druthb I mean, I know it's slow on the uptake and all, but... 14:01 cait i guess it was you telling him that ages ago 14:01 cait and it's not true 14:09 cait therw was a screenshot of the koha community website on the screen for a few secnds 14:20 cait ... here at the conf... to make some sense of that comment 14:29 cait bye all 14:35 tcohen bye cait! 14:43 magnuse denials: bug 13388 14:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13388 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add library pages to the OPAC 14:44 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner 14:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12123 - [Alternative patch] HTML notices can break the notice viewer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab2d2d2590fe4adf4adf6015f0ef441da8ad52a3> / Bug 12852: C4::Bookseller should not be imported anymore <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4179c63d7ea1a087b725b0a8da98537aa1d61949> / Bug 12852: Some unused stuffs more <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh 15:37 tcohen @marc 111 15:37 huginn tcohen: A meeting name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8] 15:39 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 15:39 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #267: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/267/ 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12839: aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12841: aqorders fields should not be mapped 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12980: GetHistory does useless processing 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: The "preview" param can be removed serials/claims.pl 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: Some unused stuffs more 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12839 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: C4::Bookseller should not be imported anymore 15:39 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12123 - [Alternative patch] HTML notices can break the notice viewer 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12841 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , aqorders fields should not be mapped 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12980 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetHistory does useless processing 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12852 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The "preview" param is never used in serials/claims.pl 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , HTML notices can break the notice viewer 15:42 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 15:42 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #256: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/256/ 15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12839: aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used 15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12841: aqorders fields should not be mapped 15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12980: GetHistory does useless processing 15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: The "preview" param can be removed serials/claims.pl 15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: Some unused stuffs more 15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: C4::Bookseller should not be imported anymore 15:42 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12123 - [Alternative patch] HTML notices can break the notice viewer 15:56 chris_n gmcharlt++ #for saving the day... once again ;-) 16:26 phasefx hey guys, does Koha make use of the number of nonfiling characters from the 245 2nd indicator for title sorting? 16:35 * phasefx finds sort-strings-utf.chr, wonders if that should work with opac-shelves.pl 16:36 cbrannon Hey community, got a question...on waitingreserves.pl in the Holds over tab, when you cancel a hold, if there is another hold on the item, will the item be transfered to the item's home library, like the button suggests, or will it actually to go to the pickup library where the next hold is? 16:36 oleonard phasefx: If that affects anything it would only be with Zebra-related searches I think 16:36 oleonard opac-shelves.pl definitely does not make use of nonfiling character data 16:36 phasefx oleonard: roger that, thanks 17:25 tcohen #koha: is it possible that the XSLTs show the subfields in the order they appear on the record, instead of the order they are asked to by the XSLT? 17:25 jcamins tcohen: depends whether you're using templates or selects. 17:35 tcohen jcamins: I'm talking about the template subfieldSelect from MARC21slimUtils 17:37 tcohen it seems to loop over subfields, filtering in those whose code matches the ones on the subfield list 17:47 jcamins Right. 17:48 jcamins That's what it's supposed to do. 17:48 jcamins What else would it do? 17:48 jcamins No, wrong question. 17:48 jcamins Why wouldn't it do that? 17:48 tcohen If you call <xsl:call-template name="subfieldSelect"> 17:48 tcohen <xsl:with-param name="codes">adceq</xsl:with-param> 17:48 tcohen </xsl:call-template> 17:49 tcohen you'd expect adc would be the order the subfieds are extracted 17:49 jcamins Yes. 17:49 tcohen but if the record is saved, say, alphabetically sorted 17:50 tcohen it would show them alphabetically sorted 17:50 tcohen instead 17:50 jcamins Right. 17:50 tcohen it is not my fault someone decided 111 should be rendered un-alphabetically sorted 17:51 tcohen jcamins, do u agree it is a bug? or should I ask the librarians to sort the subfiedls? 17:52 nengard fields shouldn't always be in alpha order - just fyi 17:52 nengard i didn't read up on marc for that field 17:52 nengard but it might be in that order for a reason 17:53 tcohen nengard: make programmers life difficult I guess 17:53 cbrannon #koha: on waitingreserves.pl, under the Holds over tab, when you cancel a hold, if there is another hold on the item, will the item be transfered to the item's home library, like the button suggests, or will it actually go to the pickup library where the next hold is? 17:53 tcohen the question here is: do we expect to respect subfields sorting on the specific record, or should the XSLT take care of sorting the way LOC says 17:54 oleonard cbrannon: Try it and find out? 17:54 * tcohen expects an answer different than "burn MARC" 17:54 chris_n I just posted an important email to the dev list; any/all comments, help, etc. appreciated 17:55 jcamins tcohen: the bug is that your librarians aren't doing their records right. 17:55 jcamins Well... the bug is that your librarians are using MARC. 17:55 jcamins Tell them to stop. 17:56 tcohen jcamins, do we have a way to tell the marc frameworks how to sort subfields? 17:56 jcamins tcohen: nope. 17:57 tcohen so you're tricking me, because there's no way for them to catalog a 111 field with the correct (ilogicall) sorting 17:57 tcohen 111 2#$aCongress on Machinability$d(1965 :$cRoyal Commonwealth Society) 17:57 jcamins Sure there is. 17:57 tcohen 111$a$d$c is expected 17:57 jcamins Just not in the framework. 17:57 jcamins You have to change it in the record. 17:58 jcamins That's why they should always use authorities. 17:58 tcohen importing from the authority works? 17:58 jcamins I think so. 17:58 jcamins Wait, no. 17:59 * jcamins just tested. 17:59 * jcamins just *wishes* it worked. 17:59 chris_n *snap* 17:59 chris_n did that help? 18:00 tcohen heh 18:00 tcohen jcamins, it is a bug 18:00 jcamins They have to manually reorder the subfields in the cataloging editor. 18:01 * tcohen thinks the one that will burn is him 18:01 tcohen *burnt by the librarians 18:02 jcamins I saw that movie. It was sad. 18:03 rangi Hmm that's a bit problematic 18:03 rangi The latest support company 18:03 tcohen fqdn? 18:04 jcamins rangi: it goes well with koha.ch. 18:05 rangi That worries me less 18:05 drojf why do they have a liblime link? 18:05 rangi Than the link 18:06 rangi Snap 18:06 jcamins Oh, I didn't bother looking at the page. 18:06 jcamins I went "oh, look at that, someone else ignoring the domain name rule," and promptly ignored them. 18:07 tcohen do we have a written rule for that? 18:07 drojf koha.ch is some domain parking thing btw. like koha.de 18:07 drojf i asked about koha.de, the person said they want 3000€. lol. they keep it 18:07 jcamins drojf: koha-something.ch, then. 18:07 jcamins The Postgres troll's company. 18:08 drojf koha-support-schweiz.ch? 18:08 drojf the troll is long gone 18:08 drojf ah yes its http://www.koha-support.ch/ 18:09 cait hm confused -ml? 18:09 cait i think yes 18:09 cait on phone, slooow 18:10 rangi Yeah troll has parted ways and mveron is a valued participant 18:11 drojf [off] yes only the nice marc stayed :) 18:11 rangi So I'm not worried about that so much as the links right next to each other 18:12 rangi On the Chile one 18:12 jcamins Right. 18:12 drojf tcohen: i don't think we have a rule and i don't know if we can have one like "you're not allowed to link to whatever on your website" 18:12 rangi But dunno how to write that email 18:13 rangi Something like you understand they are different eh 18:13 rangi I mean they submitted legal documents saying they dont do Koha 18:14 rangi I'll sit on it for a day 18:17 tcohen rangi: what about the domain name? 18:18 rangi On to more useful stuff 18:18 rangi Did you see the package bug? 18:18 rangi Tcohen: that ship has sailed 18:19 tcohen the package bug? 18:19 rangi Robin emailed the list, there should be a patch in passed qa 18:19 rangi Re the cron jobs 18:20 rangi Not a major issue, but super easy fix 18:24 rangi This bus is too full 18:24 drojf rangi: what do you mean by that ship has sailed? in general? for that request? if they claim to be involved in the community it wouldn't hurt to at least tell them how that has been handled so far. 18:26 rangi The domain name is kinda gone but yeah could mention. I think getting the tone right is the trick 18:26 drojf the company seems to be sigechile.cl, so maybe kohachile.cl instead and forwarding koha.cl to k-c.org is an option 18:27 rangi That sounds good 18:28 rangi Tcohen: who was it that presented at kohacon? They were from Chile right? 18:28 tcohen nope 18:28 tcohen colombia 18:28 tcohen there was people from chile at the conference 18:29 rangi Ahh right 18:30 rangi Ahh I remember now, thanks 18:30 rangi They were cool 18:34 rangi Bbiab 18:35 tcohen they are cool actually :-D 18:47 cait_ @wunder offenburg 18:47 huginn cait_: The current temperature in Lahr, Friesenheim, Germany is 2.8°C (7:46 PM CET on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 18:48 cait_ feels freezingly cold 18:48 nengard @wunder 78754 18:48 huginn nengard: The current temperature in University Hills, Austin, Texas is 13.6°C (12:48 PM CST on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 18:48 nengard finally getting warm here again 18:49 bag @wunder 93111 18:49 huginn bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 17.7°C (10:48 AM PST on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 18:51 cait_ stuck on platform for 15 more :( 18:59 rangi tcohen: ohh youve already pushed it :) 19:00 cait_ :) 19:04 cait train! 19:04 rangi http://hea.koha-community.org/ notice anything differnet? 19:11 rangi https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app/commits/master aleisha did some work and Joubu merged it :) i think thats pretty cool considering she downloaded it, installed a db server, installed the perl modules, made the db, and got it all running on her computer and managed to find and patch the right file :) 19:18 cait very cool 19:32 liw I don't know if this is a feeling librarians ever have: I've just moved back to Finland, and have today gotten my bookcase and books back. Sorting through my books is a weird mix of "oh no more books" and "oh look, I'd forgotten this gem, I really liked reading it" 19:33 tcohen bye! 19:33 cait :) 19:34 rangi liw: heh i think thats what happens when they do a weed 19:34 rangi or inventory 19:34 rangi oh no, another harry potter 19:59 oleonard bye all 20:00 rangi https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/540226070041993216 20:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #585 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #585: SUCCESS in 3 min 46 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/585/ 20:04 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add GoogleIndicTransliteration 20:07 drojf rangi: nice tree :D 20:10 tcohen logs? 20:10 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ 20:11 tcohen heh 20:12 rangi i wonder where i could get a blow up menorah from 20:12 drojf rangi: http://www.amazon.com/Menorah-Indoor-outdoor-Blow-Decoration/dp/B009SES13M 20:13 rangi heh 20:13 rangi there had to be one :) 20:33 tcohen heh 20:46 tcohen hi talljoy 20:46 talljoy hi tcohen 20:46 talljoy what's new? 20:46 wahanui new is not instantiated anywhere in bug 11023 20:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11023 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Toggle new status for items 20:46 rangi heya alvet 20:46 rangi wahanui: forget new 20:46 wahanui rangi: I forgot new 20:46 talljoy better. 20:46 talljoy hi tcohen what's new? 20:47 talljoy :-) 20:48 tcohen not much, waiting for manuel to come outside 20:48 tcohen :-D 20:52 rangi heh, soon now eh tcohen ? 20:53 wizzyrea I am excited about more kohababies. 20:53 tcohen yeah, we are on the 38th week, we've been told it will happen "from now on..." 20:53 wizzyrea you are on "dad high alert" 20:54 cait :) 20:54 tcohen yeah, cancelled two trips this week 20:55 tcohen hi cait 20:55 cait not quite home yet 21:01 cait grr 21:02 tcohen wb cait 21:03 cait thx 21:26 eythian hi 21:26 denials magnuse: I loof forward to trying it out! 21:26 denials s/loof/look/ :) 21:27 * cait_ waves 21:27 cait_ almost home now - on the bus 21:28 cait_ it was nice to meet you in person denials :) 21:46 magnuse denials: i'm not promising anything - would be fun to work on, but here's hoping someone beats me to it :-) 21:46 magnuse actually, i'd prefer to spend any free koha hacking time on getting semantikoha going 21:49 cait home!! 21:49 cait real internet! 21:50 rambutan cookies! 21:50 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies 21:53 magnuse welcome home cait! 21:53 magnuse and have fun #koha! 21:55 cait night magnuse 22:03 eythian cait: are you getting the catmandu USB sticks? 22:03 eythian save me one, would you? :) 22:04 cait i am sorry, i got only one 22:04 cait in the workshop 22:04 eythian aww 22:04 eythian well go back and get another :D 22:04 cait you could havetold me about them... like 22:04 cait yesterday 22:04 wahanui yesterday is almost over for me, and it's been pretty awful. 22:04 cait or the day before yesterday 22:05 cait and i would have gotten one for you 22:05 eythian I just saw an email about them now, which reminded me 22:05 cait gr. 22:05 cait maybe you could ask them to send you one? 22:05 cait they had bags full of them 22:05 eythian I might do that :) 22:08 cait because now you mademe feel bad for not having one for you 22:08 cait and oyu need to fix this 22:08 eythian haha 22:09 eythian I don't quite see how you not getting one becomes my problem to fix all of a sudden...:) 22:10 cait hmpf 22:11 wizzyrea danger will robinson. danger. 22:11 * wizzyrea senses a travel weary cait 22:11 cait a bit 22:11 cait long 3 days 22:12 eythian and she still has to write up everything she learnt and send it to me. 22:12 eythian hi kathryn 22:15 kathryn hi eythian :) 22:15 kathryn and hi all 22:15 aleisha hi kathryn! 22:15 kathryn hi aleisha! 22:20 cait hi kathryn and aleisha :) 22:20 kathryn hiya cait :) 22:22 aleisha hi cait! 22:41 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 22:42 mtompset eythian++ # thanks for the deb, able to test now without installing from source. 22:42 eythian no problem 22:43 mtompset Just wish the test plan step 6 was a little more verbose. :) 22:59 tcohen @seen dcook 22:59 huginn tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 2 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <dcook> Well, hopefully maybe not.. 23:00 eythian he's been surprisingly quiet lately 23:06 tcohen yeap :( 23:18 tcohen @later tell dcook come back, we miss you 23:18 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.