Time Nick Message 00:31 mtj hi mtompset 00:32 mtompset Greetings, mtj. 00:32 mtj it looks like an impressive tool, from the doco -> https://subgraph.com/vega/documentation/Vega-Proxy/index.en.html 00:32 * mtj hasnt got round to trying it yet.. 00:33 mtompset The UI isn't as friendly as I'd like (under Wndows), but it certainly has given me things to think about. :) 00:33 mtj yep, it can only but help inprove koha :) 00:33 mtj improve 00:34 mtj i remember rangi experimenting with 'fuzzing' koha, a while ago.. 00:35 * mtj cant recall the tool, but it wasnt vega 00:36 rangi arachni scanner 00:36 rangi http://www.arachni-scanner.com/ 00:36 rangi its really cool 00:36 mtj ta chris :p 00:36 rangi find the crsf is easy, fixing it not so much 00:37 mtj meh, always the way huh.. :( 00:39 mtj could be a goodthing to run a scan, as part of a koha release? 00:39 mtj ..you could diff the report against the last one 00:40 rangi yep 00:46 mtj actually, would be an interesting exercise to run a scan for the last few releases 00:46 mtj .. and do some diffs 00:47 mtj we might even spot, in which release a bug got introduced 00:54 rangi does anyone know was the bug when you checkout an item, that it doesnt reorder the holds correctly reported? 00:56 mtj bug 13168 ? 00:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13168 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , "Today's checkouts" sort improperly because issuedate lacks seconds. 00:57 mtj perhaps rangi ? ^ 00:57 rangi hmm nope 00:57 rangi in 3.14.x at least 00:58 rangi since the holds were switched to run off a primary key 00:58 rangi when you issue on, it finishes the hold 00:58 rangi and then it tries to reorder it, using that id 00:58 rangi so the query fails, and it reorders nothing 00:59 mtj aah, i was reading reorder, as in 'sort a list' 01:00 rangi its fixing the priority i should say 01:08 rangi ah ha 01:11 * wizzyrea loves the rangi lightbulbs 01:12 rangi - _FixPriority({ reserve_id => $reserve_id }); 01:12 rangi + _FixPriority({ reserve_id => $reserve_id, biblionumber => $biblionumber }); 01:12 rangi fix 01:13 wizzyrea rangi++ 01:20 rangi bug 13368 01:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Checking out an item not on loan, but with a hold, busts the holds priority 01:57 eythian https://twitter.com/panheadbrewery/status/539587982303313920 <-- rangi 01:57 rangi sweet 01:57 eythian (you'll note the logo behind the barcode) 01:58 rangi yep 02:03 mtj ooh, is it the kiwicon beer eythian? 02:03 eythian ayup 02:03 eythian you going? 02:05 ibeardslee eythian: can you sneak a bottle out for me? 02:05 mtj naw, would love too - but will be out of town :/ 02:06 mtj im loving this year's graphix - very jeff minter 02:07 tcohen hi 02:07 eythian ibeardslee: get your own, you know where the malty is. 02:08 ibeardslee so not completely exclusive to Kiwicon 02:08 eythian I'm not sure. 02:09 tcohen night eythian 02:09 eythian But the chances of me successfully smuggling a bottle out are also pretty low 02:09 eythian tcohen: hi 02:09 tcohen are you already working on koha-plack or smth similar? 02:10 eythian I think I did some stuff with it 02:10 eythian to make it also convert the staff client 02:10 tcohen i'd like to help on getting full plack support 02:12 eythian bywater is planning on doing some testing 02:13 bag yes yes we are :) 02:13 bag but I need you all to give me more memory first :D 02:13 eythian bag also has an alert on the word "bywater" I guess :) 02:14 bag :P 02:19 tcohen anyway, we've already generated all our demo sites using the fresh 3.18 packages and everything seems to go smooth for now 02:20 tcohen the only thing lacking: speed 02:20 tcohen :-D 02:32 wizzyrea I'd really like to see the "edit items" page 02:33 wizzyrea and the record detail page 02:33 wizzyrea merged. 02:33 wizzyrea something like, click "add item" to expand the add item form within that, and update the item list below in an ajax-y way. 02:34 wizzyrea and do away with the big edit item page (except for adds that happen after new records) 02:34 wizzyrea or maybe not. 02:34 wizzyrea the fact that you can batch modify from the detail page, and not from the "edit items" page 02:34 wizzyrea is really a bummer for me 03:07 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 03:07 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on December 02, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 03:07 eythian it should be warming up by now. 03:07 eythian but it isn't really 03:15 wizzyrea yeah, apparently it's clear across the whole country atm. 03:15 wizzyrea is a very 'fresh' southerly. 03:15 wizzyrea nice surf in lyall bay tho :P 04:03 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5 04:03 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Wilshire-Thornhill, Vaughan, Ontario is -6.0°C (10:59 PM EST on December 01, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1039 hPa (Rising). 04:04 mtompset That explains why my feet are cold. :) 04:35 mtompset wizzyrea++ # for knowing about the security team. :) 04:38 eythian some of us are in it :) I presume wizzyrea is, but I'm not sure. 06:03 * mtompset waves. 06:03 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 06:37 * magnuse waves 06:39 magnuse @wunder boo 06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (7:20 AM CET on December 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 06:39 magnuse snow on the ground - going to rain during the day 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:57 wahanui niihau, alex_a 08:10 magnuse bonjour paul_p 08:10 magnuse ready for swib? 08:10 paul_p hi magnuse 08:10 paul_p sitted 3m to cait ;-) 08:10 magnuse yay 08:11 magnuse did you go to a workshop yesterday? 08:15 * cait waves 08:27 nlegrand_ Hey o/ 08:28 cait hi nlegrand_ 08:28 nlegrand_ ho 08:31 magnuse hiya nlegrand 08:42 Joubu hello #koha 08:58 magnuse @seen pianohacker 08:58 huginn magnuse: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 6 days, 9 hours, 56 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <pianohacker> wow, that word 09:11 nlegrand hey magnuse o/ 09:14 cait coffee break 10:13 cait @wunder Bonn 10:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Johanniterviertel (Gronau), Bonn, Germany, Bonn, Germany is 2.8°C (11:13 AM CET on December 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 10:39 Joubu I have just submited 2 trivial ergonomics improvement for 3.18, on bug 13369 and bug 13370 10:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13369 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , [Datatables] tr and td are not correctly highlighted 10:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13370 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Inputs overflow in filters 10:42 cait Joubu: without my laptop until thursday :( 11:06 nlegrand Is it me or OpacRenewalAllowed permits a patron to renew a hold he is late on? 11:07 cait hm i think there might be another pref maybe 11:07 cait i think this is the general switch 11:08 cait nlegrand: i think some libraries want it that way - but i don't remember if it's cnfigurable and where right now :( 11:10 nlegrand cait: thanks :), there is a little tension here as we got aware of it :) 11:10 nlegrand ho 11:12 sophie_m cait nlegrand, some of our customers report it as a bug :( 11:12 nlegrand renew a loan, not a hold, sorry 11:13 nlegrand sophie_m: argh 11:20 nlegrand sophie_m: we're going to try RenewalPeriodBase set on "the old due date of the checkout" as a workaround. We hope it will prevent us from misuses or hacks to make a loan super long... 11:22 sophie_m thanks for the clue nlegrand 11:25 magnuse cait++ for prodding bug 11190 along 11:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11190 new feature, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Failed QA , sitemap.pl -- Generate a Catalog sitemap 11:41 drojf hi #koha 11:47 magnuse moin drojf 11:47 drojf hi magnuse 11:49 drojf magnuse: not at swib? 11:49 magnuse nope, not this year, sadly 11:50 drojf i wanted to watch the stream but my notebook went crazy and needed fixing. now they have lunch break apparently 11:59 magnuse ah, there is a stream? 12:15 magnuse kia ora khall! 12:15 khall mornin! 12:16 drojf magnuse: http://swib.org/swib14/ 12:17 magnuse drojf: thanks 12:46 drojf i think i can see cait in the stream 12:47 magnuse wave cait wave 12:49 drojf they switched cameras, too late :D 12:49 tcohen morning! 12:50 meliss Good morning! 13:03 oleonard Hi #koha 13:07 cait hi oleonard 13:07 cait today is a quiet day it appears 13:08 magnuse cait: 'cause you are not here :-) 13:08 oleonard Oh no, cait's not here? 13:09 * oleonard leaves 13:09 cait so you are saying i am talkig on #koha all day? 13:10 magnuse cait: you are the life of the party 13:11 magnuse i'll soon be working on a cli script that will ingest some xml and create or update koha borrowers accordingly. XML::Simple is used elsewhere in Koha, but "The use of this module in new code is discouraged". anyone got a favourite alternative? 13:11 magnuse i have used XML::LibXML::Simple in another project, but i did not quite like the data structure it produced 13:11 magnuse Catmandu::Importer::XML might be an interesting option 13:15 cait ashimema also was looking into a rewrite of the patrn import, not sure but he might have an idea 13:22 tcohen I liked XML::Twig 13:28 magnuse tcohen: thanks, will have a look 14:28 schnydszch Hi all. In Koha 3.16.4, when I searched the OPAC in advance search, I get this instead: Software error: Empty String at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/XSLT.pm line 235 What does this mean? 14:31 nengard looks like there is an error in your xslt 14:32 nengard so i'd check to make sure your prefs are set to 'default' 14:34 schnydszch thanks nicole, i haven't done any modifications in the xslt i am using, it was actually working before. I'll take a look. Thanks! 14:40 Joubu oleonard: thanks for your quick SO! :) 14:54 oleonard You're welcome, and thanks for the patches Joubu 15:02 tcohen schnydszch: are you using XSLT at all? 15:02 tcohen maybe you put a space on the field 15:05 schnydszch yep i'm using customized XSLT 15:06 schnydszch this was working before, but now, it isn't. from 3.14 to 3.16.1, 3.16.3 then 3.16.4 15:09 oleonard schnydszch: You could eliminate the possibility that the fault is in the custom XSLT by setting the preference back to "default" and testing. 15:10 schnydszch okay oleonard. will try 15:12 schnydszch and yes it's working with default.. hmm what could have happened with my xslt :) 15:12 schnydszch i think my drupal installation in the server messed up my xslt: http://li628-210.members.linode.com/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults_fhl.xsl 15:14 tcohen maybe the path to the file changed in Koha 15:14 oleonard schnydszch: How would your Drupal installation have had access to Koha files? 15:15 schnydszch probably with htaccess 15:15 schnydszch in drupal.. i dunno 15:16 schnydszch li628 is the default domain name of the server from the service provider, i've just changed it to the correct domain 15:16 schnydszch name 15:17 tcohen ah, that's why, "the correct" matches a different virtualhost probably 15:17 schnydszch this is the correct domain name and where the xslt should be: http://opac.filipinaslibrary.org.ph/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults_fhl.xsl 15:19 tcohen ah 15:20 tcohen just use that then 15:20 tcohen looks good 15:20 schnydszch I've just corrected it. Thanks all for pointing me. Cheers! And good job tcohen with the Koha video :) 15:29 * Oak waves 16:04 * cait waves 16:04 cait denials++ 16:05 cait nice presentation :) 16:05 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 16:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 16:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #268: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/268/ 18:44 tcohen bbl 18:44 tcohen bye! 20:11 wizzyrea @later tell mtompset not on the security team, but it's my business to know things about Koha. :) 20:11 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 20:13 rangi @later tell mtompset it's pretty much all the past release managers and release maintainers (plus current) 20:13 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:28 rangi @later tell joubu https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app/pulls <-- is this an ok way to do it? 20:28 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 21:31 tcohen morning kiwis 21:32 rangi hey tcohen 21:32 tcohen hi rangi 21:32 eythian hi tcohen 21:36 tcohen ? 21:37 eythian ¿ 21:39 tcohen i got reconnected dunno why 22:10 * eythian wonders if the koha list is broken, the last post seems to be from me as of yesterday 22:19 tcohen interesting: sysprefs search looks awful in chrome, beautyful in firefox 22:22 pianohacker tcohen: sysprefs search? how so 22:22 tcohen a sec 22:23 tcohen http://snag.gy/Ir9EW.jpg 22:23 tcohen look at maxRecordsForFacets for example 22:25 * tcohen thinks the 'term' span might me being used on some other place 22:30 pianohacker oh, hrm, yes, that styling is iffy 22:30 pianohacker what css does it have for it? 22:30 pianohacker anything obviously wrong? 22:35 wizzyrea modern.ie++ ie-- 22:36 wizzyrea gotta be something about javascript. 22:36 wizzyrea the highlighting javascript. 22:36 tcohen pianohacker: i'm still looking, If I change the span for an i (under the asumption it is matching some selector used for other stuff, didn't work :/ 22:36 tcohen the span introduction is hardcoded on jquery.highlight-3.js btw 22:37 wizzyrea seems that latest chrome has several problems with javascript 22:37 wizzyrea see: the email to the list about the patron search 22:41 jcamins wizzyrea: the last message I saw was about CSRF. 22:41 wizzyrea it was before those :) 22:41 jcamins Do you know if Chrome on all platforms is having issues? 22:41 wizzyrea a whole thread of things. 22:41 jcamins Oh, I'll search, then. 22:42 wizzyrea only windows for that one 22:42 tcohen oh 22:42 jcamins Oh, from Oak. 22:42 wizzyrea yeah 22:42 wizzyrea it may be that the version of jquery we are using has problems with chrome on windows. 22:42 tcohen it seems <free text><span><free text> renders wrong 22:43 tcohen but <span>free text><span><free text></span> does it ok 22:43 wizzyrea errr 22:43 * cait waves 22:43 wizzyrea hi cait :) 22:44 tcohen hi cait!!!!! 22:44 cait yeah still alive 22:44 cait kind of :) 22:44 tcohen we miss u!! 22:46 cait :) 22:47 * wnickc waves 22:57 eythian cait: where have you been? 22:57 tcohen she's been in Catmandu 22:58 cait heh not today 22:58 cait today was conference day 22:58 cait another 2/3 day tomorrow, then travelling back home 22:58 tcohen @wunder kathmandu 22:58 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in patan, PATAN, Nepal is 8.1°C (4:43 AM NPT on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 22:59 eythian oh, of course, the conference on the thing that she's learning everything about so that she can help with ES stuff. 22:59 eythian How could I forget that 22:59 * cait forgot that 22:59 tcohen =D 23:00 tcohen bug 13375 23:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13375 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Syspref search highlight styling broken in Chrome 23:01 tcohen if someone comes up with a better solution... 23:08 wizzyrea Browsers are (rightfully) getting more and more picky about good html, seems like. 23:20 denials thanks cait! 23:22 cait i really enjoyed your presentation 23:24 cait so thank you :) 23:24 denials I was worried it was a bit of a mismatch with the others, being more ranty than technical, but I believe in the message :) 23:25 cait well yours was my favourite - maybe i like ranty :) 23:26 cait i will try to take a look at the sitemap patch soon - it's now waiting for qa 23:26 denials Wow, I am *honoured* - the quality of the other talks has been very high! 23:26 eythian I find less-technical talks at a fairly technical conference are often appreciated. 23:26 denials eythian: perhaps even more so at 4:00 PM :) 23:26 cait denials: just a bit sad i didn't get to question you some about evergeen :) 23:28 cait yeah long days here 23:28 cait ... and i guess i better go to sleep then :) 23:29 tcohen denials? 23:29 wahanui denials is *honoured* - the quality of the other talks has been very high! 23:29 cait ah wahanui... 23:32 cait germs? 23:32 wahanui somebody said germs was http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 23:32 cait eythian: did you chagne it? 23:32 eythian wahanui: germs 23:32 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 23:32 eythian wahanui: cait 23:32 wahanui i guess cait is very pale, and needs lots of sun lotion. 23:32 eythian wahanui: cait 23:32 wahanui it has been said that cait is just silly on a train again 23:32 eythian wahanui: cait 23:32 wahanui i heard cait was just silly on a train again 23:32 eythian wahanui: cait 23:32 wahanui i guess cait is very pale, and needs lots of sun lotion. 23:32 eythian hmm 23:32 eythian I though there was another there 23:33 eythian wahanui: literal cait 23:33 wahanui eythian: cait =is= just silly on a train again|from germany. Ask me about germany.|happy about some example opacs :)|very pale, and needs lots of sun lotion.|regretting a bit that we didn't offer this as an option first... or on a test system for people to see 23:33 eythian oh, there it is 23:33 cait hm 23:33 cait literal eythian 23:33 wahanui cait: eythian =is= great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.|an expert bot trainer|<reply>go back to bed, eythian|Time's Person of the Year for 2006. 23:34 cait aha. 23:34 cait ;) 23:34 eythian man, it was 8 years ago I was person of the year. 23:34 cait ok, falling asleep on the tablet would not be good 23:34 eythian how time flies 23:34 oleonard Do we not have guidelines in writing which say that patches should include bug #, description of the problem, and test plan? 23:34 cait i better go :) 23:34 rangi we do 23:34 eythian later caiter 23:34 rangi hi cait and oleonard 23:34 cait oleonard: take it easy on the new people :) 23:35 cait oh hi rangi 23:35 * rangi just got back 23:35 cait oleonard: look for commit message or so - it hink jared wrote something quite specific somewhere 23:35 oleonard I'm not trying to be hard on anyone. I think it's important to show that I'm *not* just being arbitrary but in fact there are guidelines. 23:36 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages 23:36 cait oleonard: understood 23:36 oleonard Ah right, I was searching for "patch" not "commit" 23:42 tcohen oleonard: people sometimes forget too 23:42 tcohen so don't be too rude 23:42 tcohen :-D 23:42 oleonard I'll try to restrain myself from being as rude as I usually am :P 23:42 rangi hehe you are very very rarely rude 23:42 rangi unlike me 23:43 tcohen heh 23:44 oleonard Yeah when I grow up I wanna be as rude as rangi! 23:44 rangi heh 23:44 rangi im trying to be less rude 23:44 tcohen you are 23:44 rangi but still get points across, it's tricky 23:45 * cait is not rude, but quite tired 23:45 cait well maybe i wouldn#t notice :) 23:47 tcohen eythian: does Koha::Cache take care of cache timeout? 23:47 eythian yep 23:48 eythian wahanui: kathryn 23:48 wahanui kathryn is probably beaten by a banana. 23:49 kathryn yes eythian , we discovered this when you weren't here one day! 23:49 kathryn well, discovered you lovely message 23:49 kathryn your 23:50 eythian jun 16 12:50:36 <dcook> kathryn_: beaten by a banana? 23:50 eythian jun 16 12:50:52 <kathryn_> *sigh* sadly, yes. 23:50 eythian jun 16 12:51:23 <kathryn_> I peel the sticker, I peeled the banana, I scanned a dang QR code and NOTHING! 23:50 eythian jun 16 12:52:21 <kathryn_> I thought, hey, maybe this is the QR code I've been waiting for, y'know? 23:50 eythian wahanui: kathryn 23:50 wahanui kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG 23:50 kathryn ahhhhhhhh I had forgotten the context! 23:51 eythian your photo is still there at least 23:51 tcohen is that rangi?? 23:51 kathryn and there's the other one. you're a real pest... 23:51 eythian tcohen: yeah 23:51 kathryn hi tcohen :) 23:51 tcohen hi kathryn 23:51 tcohen nice to meet you :-D 23:52 tcohen is that how beer o'clock looks like from the outside? 23:53 kathryn nah, that's just how you make friends with librarians in NZ :) 23:53 tcohen heh 23:59 rangi ok better go give my presentation