Time Nick Message 23:49 mtompset I downloaded an interesting free open-source tool (Subgraph Vega https://subgraph.com) and have confirmed ugliness too on my 3.14.x site. It also seems to be taking out my MySQL server while doing it too. 23:49 mtompset Sucky! This CSRF email got me trying out something, and it's yucky bad! 23:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 22:43 eythian bye cait 22:40 cait good night #koha 22:30 cait just testing :) i accidentally disconnected 22:30 eythian ? 22:30 eythian r 22:29 cait t 22:26 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on December 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 22:26 eythian @wunder nzwn 22:26 eythian hi again 22:21 alvet cool 22:18 cait but i think i am going to use my tablet tomorrow for taking notes :) 22:18 cait travelling without my laptop this time... got one for work for this conf 22:17 cait cool 22:16 alvet so far so good. 22:16 alvet I moved all of those from my desktop so I can work on Koha while travelling 22:16 alvet btw - do you remember the surface tablet I had at KohaCon? Its all on there. I didnt think it could take it but its doing well :) 22:15 cait probably not lightning fast :) 22:12 alvet yep... started with 2GB per VM and I'm now down to 512MB which seems ok. 22:11 cait do you have a vm for each? 22:11 alvet I am running out of RAM hosting 3.12,3.14,3.16.... 22:10 alvet cant wait to install and play with this :) 22:10 alvet cool! I just got the EDS Plugin ready for 3.16 a few weeks ago... next stop 3.18 22:09 cait i am quite happy - i think the custom search box is in there too somewhere 22:08 cait yeah long :) 22:08 alvet of fixes and enhancements 22:08 alvet going through the long list 22:08 alvet congrats on the 3.18 release! 22:07 alvet Hi cait :) 22:07 cait hi alvet 21:51 cait :) 21:47 drojf awww :) thanks 21:47 * cait sends a hot water bottle to drojf 21:47 cait omg 21:47 drojf i win again :) 21:47 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is -2.7°C (10:45 PM CET on December 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 21:47 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 21:45 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (10:20 PM CET on December 01, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 21:45 magnuse @wunder boo 21:43 cait brrr 21:31 huginn cait: The current temperature in Johanniterviertel (Gronau), Bonn, Germany, Bonn, Germany is 3.1°C (10:29 PM CET on December 01, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 21:31 cait @wunder Bonn 21:24 cait i am glad to not be presenting 21:22 cait oh no sad smiley! 21:22 drojf :'( 21:21 cait drojf: i don't lie you then 21:20 drojf cait: if you really like us, you will just run up on stage :D 21:20 cait using a vm they provided, so we skipped all the installing bits 21:20 cait drojf: i doubt they wlil point it my direction :) 21:19 cait i wrote a simple .fix file today pushing some data to elastic search and a bit of querying 21:19 drojf cait: are you going to wave into the camera tomorrow? 21:19 cait eythian: not sure yet how it works - i got questions :) 21:18 eythian yeah, I don't want it to be hardcoded. 21:17 cait i only took a quick look at your code today and bugzilla made it a little complicated - 5 patches 21:17 cait my first question would be about the db table probably :) but i guess that's because you plan to make it configurable? 21:16 eythian hello drojf 21:16 cait eythian: i am doing my best, but i have my doubts :) 21:16 drojf hi eythian 21:16 eythian cait: I expect you to learn everything and then make my catmandu-realated code better :) 21:15 cait conf tomorrow and wednesday 21:15 cait good so far, todaay was a long workshop 21:15 cait it's fun, maybe helpful for converting data too 21:15 drojf how is swib? 21:15 cait drojf: you shoudl take a look at catmandu 21:14 cait hi drojf 21:14 drojf hi conferencecait :) 21:13 cait catmandu is fun :) 21:11 cait hi eythian 21:10 eythian hi 20:42 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ 20:42 rangi yeah buddy 20:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12567 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21 20:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , provide virtual-mysql-server Depends On to facilitate alternate mysql implementations 20:41 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 12567: Make catalog statistics wizard publication year work for MARC21 20:41 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 13359 - allow the packages to use virtual-mysql-* 20:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_D7 build #5: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_D7/5/ 20:41 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 20:41 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 20:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_U14 build #2: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_U14/2/ 20:14 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 20:14 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 20:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_U12 build #1: FAILURE in 7.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_U12/1/ 19:25 tcohen bye #koha 19:21 tcohen need to load some sample db 19:21 tcohen oh, damn 19:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_U14 build #1: FAILURE in 1 min 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_U14/1/ 19:13 rangi thanks 19:13 rangi that'll work 19:13 tcohen will do now 19:12 tcohen I usually copy the source from another project 19:12 rangi ahh the old timeout on cloning trick 19:12 tcohen those errors are because of some timeout 19:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_D6 build #1: FAILURE in 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_D6/1/ 19:11 rangi thanks very much 19:11 tcohen rangi: i've created koha_3_18 on every node I have access to 19:10 rangi heh, yeah sometimes rules make no sense 19:09 tcohen (i.e. we are allowed to unsecure-FTP with which we can upload a php remote shell, but no SSH from outside :/) 19:08 rangi its not urgent 19:08 rangi *nod* ill try to catch bgkriegel online sometime 19:08 tcohen mine are behind some sily rules 19:07 tcohen probably bernardo's node is easier 19:07 rangi just need ssh and sudo to it 19:07 rangi yeah 19:07 tcohen rangi, do u think robin or you can set that building node? 19:06 tcohen i've known the guys are using another method for building (lighter/faster than pbuilder) 19:05 tcohen ah, yes 19:05 rangi that way we will catch any things that snuck in that stop the packages being able to build 19:05 rangi if the build for master passes 19:05 rangi i was thinking we should have one that builds the packages, from master 19:05 rangi bernardo's node isnt being used currently 19:05 * tcohen guesses eythian would like a debian-testing one 19:04 rangi i think we probably have enough nodes for now 19:04 tcohen on that server I have room for more nodes I guess 19:04 rangi yeah lets do it 19:04 tcohen rangi: it is your call 19:02 rangi hmm do we want 3.18 to build on there? may as well eh? 19:02 tcohen what you need about the nodes 19:01 tcohen anyway, just let me know 19:01 tcohen there's also a MariaDB node 18:59 tcohen done d6 18:58 rangi ahhh 18:58 tcohen they forgot to load them once they recovered from a storage controller crash 18:58 rangi sweet thanks 18:58 tcohen they are re-launching d6 and u12 18:58 tcohen rangi, ready u14 and d7 18:46 rangi thanks :) 18:46 tcohen maybe right now :-P 18:46 tcohen i don't know rangi 18:45 rangi tcohen: when you get a chance can you make koha_3.18 dbs on your jenkins nodes? 18:43 rangi morning 18:23 mtj and tcohen++ for kohacon2014 18:23 mtj tcohen++ 18:20 tcohen koha++ 18:20 tcohen yeap 18:20 mtj woah, i just checked... all the 3.x.0 releases have crazyhigh numbers 18:17 tcohen jcamins++ 18:17 tcohen i think 3.12 won 18:17 mtj ..i wonder if thats a record? ^ 18:17 mtj 'It includes 14 new features, 120 enhancements and 487 bugfixes.' 18:16 tcohen i tried to express that on the thanks section 18:16 tcohen it was a big team work really 18:15 tcohen thanks mtj 18:14 mtj congrats and thanx for 3.18 18:14 mtj hiya tomas :0) 18:13 tcohen hi mtj 18:11 mtj oops, after 5pm in france 18:10 mtj hey Joubu, about? 17:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 17:13 Joubu @later tell oleonard: could you please have a look at aqbudgets.pl, the td.rows style (datatables.css) is overwritten by the one in the global (staff-global.css). Which makes the display not trivial to read (actually it's dirty). I don't have a quick and clean solution to solve the problem. The clean way is to remove the td.highlight class everywhere, but it's not quick, at all... 16:54 drojf hi #koha 14:18 chris_n tcohen: keep me posted if you schedule a dev meeting 14:14 chris_n but I'm hesistant to push a new ver to cpan w/o some sort of plan in place 14:14 chris_n not sure what to do there 14:14 chris_n the real problem will be installs based on the current version will break if the newer version is installed 14:13 chris_n I've got to look, but I think some refactoring will have to be done in the code in Koha which depends on PDF::Reuse 14:10 tcohen but a dev meeting wouldn't hurt _:D 14:10 tcohen i'm trying to catch up with personal life 14:10 tcohen i should call for a dev meeting soon 14:10 tcohen chris_n++ 14:09 chris_n it would be good to get as many eyes on it as possible to be sure things don't break too badly 14:08 chris_n I'm planning to roll a new release of PDF::Reuse which will definitely have some ramifications for the label and patron tools in Koha 14:07 * chris_n wonders if there is a dev meeting scheduled anytime between now and the end of the year? 14:04 tcohen is anyone newsletter-related around? 14:00 tcohen magnuse: would you take a look at zeno's? 13:58 tcohen i'll try to set jenkins to run those ASAP 13:57 tcohen yeah, we need more eyes on zeno's 13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Needs Signoff , Test about UTF-8 (bug 11944) 13:55 magnuse ah bug 13264 13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 13:55 * magnuse hopes bug 11944 can make it in real quick now :-) 13:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12567: Make catalog statistics wizard publication year work for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=865996d097bbc4cc36fdb5231bacfaed822cfd54> 13:29 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:29 tcohen @later tell rangi we need to add the 3.18 version to bz 13:29 * tcohen is jealous of the folks playing with catmandu all together right now 13:21 nlegrand Hey #Koha! 13:02 magnuse ah, i love the smell of 3.19 in the afternoon (local time) 12:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13214 - Improve performance of acqui/addorderiso2709.pl, stop fetching all import... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e232f3b64abe50eb24b37ae2308678b0f3351481> / Bug 13359 - allow the packages to use virtual-mysql-* <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9419177a1e39296fe1049b44fb9788eeb4341b77> / Bug 13363: update build script for 3.19 <http://git.koha-community 12:49 tcohen akafred: you're right! 12:46 akafred Yep, I specified version 3.18, which didn't work, then tried 3.18.0 which also didn't work. Seems I need two trailing zeros, which is a bit unusual: 3.18.00 12:41 magnuse akafred: looks like the 3.18.0 package is in place 12:36 cait koha++ 12:36 cait :) 12:35 tcohen chinese subtitles, YAY! 12:34 magnuse akafred: someone asked on the mail list "When it will be available for package installation ?" and eythian answered " That would be about now." 10 hours ago 12:33 magnuse don't think, just code 12:33 tcohen will you show us catamandu ? 12:33 tcohen *to start thinking/working on 12:33 tcohen magnuse, i was 12:33 magnuse yeah, just release it now 12:32 akafred Hello kohalians - is there an ETA on deb-package of 3.18? 12:32 * magnuse wonders if tcohen has been partying and celbrating all weekend ;-) 12:32 tcohen are we ready for 3.20? 12:32 tcohen hi 12:32 magnuse wb tcohen 12:32 magnuse eythian has one or more patches 12:32 magnuse i think maybe i reported something that got fixed 12:32 magnuse did i? 12:31 cait you got a patch into catmandu, didn't you? 12:31 cait yeah :) 12:31 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 12:31 magnuse cait: having fun? 12:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Johanniterviertel (Gronau), Bonn, Germany, Bonn, Germany is 4.0°C (1:25 PM CET on December 01, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 12:27 cait @wunder Bonn 12:17 cait sitting in a catmandu workshop currently 12:17 cait ah, so just quiet 12:11 marcelr no it is not 12:11 cait noone here today or is this broken? :) 11:48 cait but probably at coffee break 11:48 cait trying to find him 11:45 wahanui paul_p was last seen on #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 26 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying: tcohen nope. I already leaved home: i'm in Amsterdam for the night (after a meeting with g-star today), and tomorrow, going to Germany (koln) ;-) [Thu Nov 27 18:19:10 2014] 11:45 cait seen paul_p 11:44 marcelr hi cait 11:44 cait hi all 11:36 Oak exit 11:10 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 11:10 Oak @later tell cait you are marked absent from class. 11:08 wahanui well, cait is from germany. Ask me about germany. 11:08 Oak where is cait? 11:08 Oak ruined it. 11:08 Oak *sigh* 11:08 Oak Bobjour Monsieur alex_a 11:07 Oak magnuse 09:29 magnuse jenkins having a bad day? 09:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #263: ABORTED in 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/263/ 09:05 fridolin hi marcelr 09:05 marcelr fredericd++ 09:05 marcelr hi fridolin 08:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #262: ABORTED in 1 min 42 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/262/ 08:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_D7 build #1: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_D7/1/ 08:39 fridolin hie all 08:00 marcelr hi magnuse and alex_a 07:58 alex_a bonjour 07:54 * magnuse waves 07:35 marcelr hi #koha 05:51 dcook Well, hopefully maybe not.. 05:50 dcook Ah, that moment when you're testing a bug and you find another one.. 05:25 dcook Ah, wizzyrea, you were totally right about me commenting in July :p 05:19 Sammy We have some custom php pages we've written to generate some special dumps of data from the koha db. For some reason since we converted (new machine build and then migrate) from tarball to package, we haven't been able to get these php scripts to run. Instead php doesn't parse them so you just get a page showing the php code. Any idea if anything changed that might be creating a very defined restriction as to what php is able to execute 05:10 * Oak waves 04:37 dcook Actually, that's mostly a lie. I forgot. 04:37 dcook I didn't have time to buy cookies :/ 04:36 dcook Not as big as in my imagination (where they're 5 gallon pales), but still look tasty 04:36 dcook ooo :D 04:09 eythian http://imgur.com/MRFl48W <-- dcook, those two red buckets 04:07 dcook Also, brb I'm getting food 04:07 dcook what types of cookies? 04:07 dcook Or more importantly... 04:07 dcook eythian: how big are the buckets? 04:07 dcook Gets around the tabbing issue and the bad request explosion issue 04:07 dcook And then passing that key when browsing 04:07 dcook Basically what the opac does but using unique keys instead of "busc" 04:06 dcook But dcook thinks he has a solution! 04:06 dcook So you can't go back to your first tab and browse correctly 04:06 dcook Where if you have 2 tabs open, you can only browse the results of the latest tab :p 04:06 dcook It has a different problem though :p 03:55 wizzyrea but it doesn't have this problem ^.^ 03:52 cait which c. are you talking about? 03:52 cait its so silly early 03:51 dcook and it's not great 03:51 dcook wizzyrea: it uses sessions 03:51 * cait wants cookies too 03:51 wizzyrea he really does. 03:51 eythian I have two buckets of them sitting behind me, dcook 03:51 wizzyrea i might be talking out of my butt. 03:51 wizzyrea the opac feature that does similar things apparently doesn't use cookies? 03:50 dcook I might actually go out and buy some cookies just because of this conversation 03:50 dcook Damn, now I want cookies 03:50 dcook Whereas I just want to stop breakages 03:50 wahanui OK, eythian. 03:50 wahanui okay, eythian. 03:50 eythian wahanui: cookies are also a delicious delicacy 03:50 wahanui ...but cookies are the solution to everything Chris ;) or http://youtu.be/ZJlkplvYdgA... 03:50 wahanui ...but cookies is the solution to everything Chris ;) or http://youtu.be/ZJlkplvYdgA... 03:50 eythian wahanui: cookies are a delicious delicacy 03:50 dcook But it would require lots of changes 03:50 dcook I think I have an idea about the search cookies... 03:49 eythian ah 03:49 cait cant - on a train 03:49 wahanui http://33.media.tumblr.com/b3425d8454fa56c1d559458d655170ed/tumblr_nbrpcsI8m21sc9rdlo1_r2_400.gif 03:49 eythian go back to bed 03:49 eythian hi cait 03:49 cait hey koha 03:48 dcook wizzyrea: shows how long my memory is, eh? 03:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11369 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Stable , Too many search cursor cookies overflow HTTP-header size, when making multiple searches in the staff client. 03:17 wahanui well, bug 11369 is hitting us hard after upgrading to 3.14 03:17 wizzyrea bug 11369 03:17 wizzyrea lol. 03:17 wizzyrea ...and you commented on it in july. 03:15 huginn 04Bug 13265: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Still too many search cursor cookies 03:15 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13265 03:15 wizzyrea there's a bug for that 03:12 dcook Hmm... maybe 30 until I could do it 03:11 dcook "Local-number:2 or Local-number:1" :D 03:11 dcook Hmm and only positive results make a cookie... that does make sense 03:09 dcook And I'm up to... 11 with my tests 03:09 dcook Of course, I think Chrome can handle about 180 03:09 dcook Hmm, I wonder if it's not that the cookies are too long but that there are too many.. 03:08 dcook :S 03:08 dcook I've had it happen on a dev install maybe twice before but never a prod install before now 03:07 eythian no idea, just saw chatter about it somewhere recently 03:07 dcook any ideas on the bug no, eythian? 03:06 dcook I can't reproduce it now though :S 02:52 eythian yeah, that's a known bug 02:50 dcook reportedly 02:48 dcook Hmm... doing too many searches in the staff client will cause the browser to explode... 02:13 dcook I suppose another thought is to patch DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader... 01:32 mtj just kidding... 01:32 mtj or EDS :p 01:31 mtj they'll probably end up at oracle 01:30 mtj yeah... $16 million is a lot of... 'consulting' 01:27 dcook mtj: That's intense :/ 01:19 mtj wiz, yeah/nah is a good description :0) 01:13 mtj ..something similar in NZ, but with IT services/hardware 01:13 mtj dcook: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/otago-health-board-fraud-duo-face-lengthy-jail-terms-38708 01:12 wizzyrea or the mechanical representation of "yeah, nah" 01:11 wizzyrea or trying to rewrite accounts. 01:11 mtj me likey 01:11 wizzyrea it's like git push -f 01:10 dcook I don't know why, but that's awesome ^ 01:10 eythian http://gfycat.com/PortlyAgileBrontosaurus 01:09 dcook But I guess that's the difference between 15,000 and 500,000 01:09 dcook So there would've been a huge discrepancy when it came time to do inventory 01:09 dcook In the 15,000 case, the person was buying things, then returning them 01:09 dcook He was still bringing stuff in 01:09 dcook Yeah, in this case, it looks like it was fairly clever 01:08 mtj its a common enuff scam 01:08 mtj sheesh 01:07 dcook 'Cameron was known for refusing to hire professional librarians. “In retrospect, it is likely he did so to avoid discovery by someone with knowledge of normal library ordering procedures,†Bartsch said.' 01:06 dcook Well, 497,000 01:06 dcook Although it looks like the library got the 500,000 01:06 dcook Two years in jail for stealing 500,000 01:05 dcook http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2008/09/managing-libraries/saskatchewan-public-library-revives-after-former-director-fraud/#_ 01:05 mtj i spent a bit of time coming up with some doozies 01:04 dcook I'm trying to remember my favourite library fraud story.. 01:04 mtj tight game... 01:04 dcook I know right? 01:04 mtj wow?! 01:03 dcook When confronted, the coworker ran out of the building and was never seen from again 01:03 dcook A friend of mine mentioned how they discovered a coworker had embezzled at least 15,000 01:03 dcook Actually, some of the financial stories I've heard lately... 01:02 dcook hehe :p 01:01 mtj tho, im guessing you cant delete yr account in that situ? 01:01 mtj perhaps if they have a bunch of fines/items still owing, dcook? 00:43 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 00:43 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 00:43 huginn dcook: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 00:43 wahanui @quote get 123 00:43 dcook @quote 123 00:42 dcook Although I don't know why someone would to it 00:36 dcook You know... we might want to build a mechanism so that people can't delete their own accounts