Time  Nick            Message
22:29 huginn          magnuse: The operation succeeded.
22:29 magnuse         @later tell bag HI!
22:29 magnuse         have fun, #koha!
22:28 magnuse         ...and tomorrow we start working on 3.19!
22:28 magnuse         tcohen++ koha++ community++
20:26 cait            ah, sounds not good
20:25 RowdyChildren   it was anoying, plus my reciept printer wouldn't stop printing
20:25 cait            don't remember htat one - too many :)
20:25 cait            ah
20:24 RowdyChildren   cait: The chrome print dialog
20:15 cait            which was taht?
20:15 * RowdyChildren is happy they fixed the issue with Chrome
20:12 * cait          is very exctied about 3.18 :)
20:11 RowdyChildren   cait: thanks
20:09 cait            i think maybe not - it's weekend in nz
20:09 cait            not sure
20:05 RowdyChildren   is the debian package for 3.18 up yet?
19:20 cait            tcohen++
19:19 cait            ooh
19:19 jcamins         I don't have any fernet. :(
19:19 jcamins         I'm not sure.
19:18 cait            with coca or with pepsi?
19:18 jcamins         Yes. We all roundly cursed construction projects, then started drinking fernet.
19:17 cait            now... did i miss the party?
19:13 tcohen          bye!
19:13 tcohen          jcamins++
19:13 tcohen          bgkriegel++
19:13 tcohen          Joubu++
19:13 tcohen          cait++
19:13 tcohen          it's fernet o'clock it seems
19:12 tcohen          bye #koha
19:12 tcohen          =D
19:12 jcamins         home_ownership--
19:12 jcamins         renovations--
19:09 jcamins         tcohen++
19:09 jcamins         construction--
18:40 tcohen          opensource++
18:40 tcohen          koha++
18:38 bgkriegel       tcohen++
18:33 * tcohen        jumps of joy
18:32 gmcharlt        tcohen++
17:38 wahanui         kia ora, tcohen
17:38 tcohen          hi
17:29 gaetan_B        bye
17:05 bag             tcohen++
16:41 huginn          cait: Highest karma: "cait" (177), "gmcharlt" (152), and "tcohen" (124).  Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-9).  You (cait) are ranked 1 out of 324.
16:41 cait            @karma
16:40 cait            balancing...
16:40 cait            tcohrn--
16:40 cait            tochen--
16:40 cait            apparently it's time for the weekend :)
16:40 cait            tcohen++
16:39 cait            hm
16:39 cait            tochen++
16:39 cait            m
16:39 cait            h
16:37 cait            tcohrn++
16:33 przemas_        thanx :) cait - bye for now :)
16:31 cait            przemas_: you can always come here :)
16:16 reiveune        bye
16:15 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.18.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0da3b77e509000541b62942cdef5f76de1bdbfb1> / Translation updates for Koha 3.18.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9b50a47b4da7b843e9e7c2cb63770797f0066bf> / Release notes for 3.18.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be183b3c6bb4c18ed6eeb7d93ce61d77c403ec
16:04 tcohen          wooo hoooo
16:03 huginn          przemas_: The current temperature in Meteo W-wa Okecie, Warszawa, Poland is -1.5°C (5:00 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
16:03 przemas_        @wunder Warsaw, poland
16:01 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.3°C (1:00 PM ART on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
16:01 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
15:59 przemas_        One that I found is almost dead.
15:59 przemas_        Polish users do not have a well-functioning Koha forum. :(
15:50 przemas_        some settings must be set manually for example: currency, z38.50 servers
15:48 cait            that's good at least
15:48 przemas_        and cataloging apper now in polish version
15:48 cait            for the polish installation files
15:48 cait            it's been a whie i think since we had an active maintainer for it
15:47 przemas_        I installed the english version and add polish language
15:47 cait            ah not good
15:46 przemas_        cait - you were right about to install the english version koha - it seems that polish version is incomplete while setting Sql database
15:45 cait            hi przemas_
15:45 cait            bag correct
15:42 przemas_        hi cait
15:42 bag             hmm today is release day correct?
15:41 nlegrand        :(
15:41 huginn          nlegrand: Error: No such location could be found.
15:41 nlegrand        @wunder Paris
15:40 huginn          bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 11.7°C (7:40 AM PST on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
15:40 bag             @wunder 93111
15:40 bag             hi cait
15:40 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 3.7°C (4:40 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
15:40 cait            @wunder Konstanz
15:40 cait            morning bag
15:36 bag             morning
13:13 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13353 - changelog update specifically for the 3.18 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a4e24dba097dbbc99fa30eea27a09cda6cea04a>
13:08 tcohen          hi magnuse
13:08 magnuse         ¡hola tcohen!
13:08 tcohen          thanks dcook
13:07 tcohen          hi Joubu
13:05 kivilahtio      Joubu: thanks for the tip!
12:59 schnydszch      hi all what does this mean when i run fines.pl?: Use of uninitialized value $branchcode in exists at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl line 110. using 3.16.4. TIA
12:34 tcohen_         morning
11:35 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8064 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Merge several biblio records
11:35 Joubu           kivilahtio: bug 8064
11:13 cait            unless you write something to use the code and do it automatically
11:13 cait            it's nice, but probably not for a problem with a bit amount of records
11:13 cait            you get a view with both records and can combine them or just let 'one' survive
11:13 cait            kivilahtio: what you can do now is merge via a list - you put both records on a list - then you can start the merging from there
11:10 kivilahtio      cait: I guess this feature is better than just a script
11:10 kivilahtio      cait: We got couple of hundred duplicates from the acquisitions module, so looking for a nice way of fixing that issue.
11:10 kivilahtio      cait: all the functionality already exists in Koha, just needs a bit of refactoring love :)
11:09 kivilahtio      cait: thansk
11:03 cait            kivilahtio: ok, sorry for being confusing. We can merge records, but it has nothing to do with this bug. It looks like it never got submitted, it might be in the Liblime version of Koha.
11:00 cait            not sure we have that
11:00 cait            looking at the screenshots
10:59 cait            ah ok
10:59 cait            merging records has been a feature for a while :)
10:59 cait            kivilahtio: hm?
10:52 kivilahtio      I can see some quite pretty screenshots, but is there code for this anywhere?
10:51 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Merge bibliographic records
10:51 kivilahtio      Bug 4283
09:28 ngourlay        thx magnuse - I'll use giz_bz in future
09:20 magnuse         when we add subs to @EXPORT, som have a leading & and some don't - any reason for that?
09:11 magnuse         [off] https://github.com/gmcharlt/LibraryCat/issues/1 "unAPI widget confict with cover image in Koha"
08:59 drojf           :D
08:56 magnuse         [off] https://github.com/gmcharlt/LibraryCat/issues :-)
08:47 paxed           [off] magnuse: the unapi popup menu in the biblio data needs better z-index.
08:47 cait            hm it looks a little broken
08:45 magnuse         [off] cait: and hover over "unAPI" below the image here: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1
08:44 magnuse         [off] cait: click somewhere inside the opacmainuserblock: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/
08:43 gaetan_B        hello
08:43 cait            hi gaetan_B
08:42 magnuse         ngourlay: here is how most of us are doing it at the moment: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
08:42 ngourlay        ok
08:42 magnuse         ngourlay: yes, bugzilla is the preferred method
08:42 nlegrand        o/
08:41 magnuse         hiya nlegrand
08:41 nlegrand        hey #koha o/
08:40 ngourlay        do people generally submit through bugzilla?
08:39 ngourlay        I've submitted a patch to koha-patches, but it looks from the archives to be low volume.
08:38 cait            hi Joubu
08:38 ngourlay        hi #koha
08:38 Joubu           o/
08:37 cait            hi #koha
08:21 * magnuse       can't see the cats
08:12 magnuse         bonjour france!
07:57 wahanui         hello, alex_a
07:57 alex_a          bonjour
07:41 wahanui         niihau, reiveune
07:41 reiveune        hello
07:34 cait            has someone tried it out yet?
07:28 magnuse         that is, indeed, the question
07:25 drojf           what else is a cat-alogue for?
07:24 magnuse         we can haz cats in the catalogue?
07:23 magnuse         if we could find him
07:23 drojf           :D
07:23 huginn          magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:23 magnuse         @wunder bag
07:20 cait            i guesss bag would be winner here
07:20 cait            lol
07:18 drojf           yay \o/
07:18 magnuse         well, we are all winners ;-)
07:18 magnuse         no way, i win!
07:18 drojf           i win! :D
07:18 magnuse         hah!!
07:18 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 0.6°C (8:15 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:18 magnuse         kia ora drojf
07:18 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:17 drojf           hi magnuse
07:15 magnuse         hah!
07:15 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:50 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:15 magnuse         @wunder boo
07:15 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (8:00 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
07:15 cait            @wunder Konstanz
07:15 cait            heh
07:15 huginn          magnuse: YES!
07:15 magnuse         @arewethereyet
07:14 * magnuse       waves
06:59 drojf           hi cait :)
06:59 cait            release day!
06:59 cait            hi drojf :)
06:52 drojf           good morning #koha
06:29 wajasu          time for zzzzzz.
06:29 wajasu          in my environment.  so if we have the class in git now... it might be useful
06:28 wajasu          dcook: when i was playing DBIx last year, i used Test-DBIx-Class-Schema-1.0.2 for adding testing.
06:28 ashimema        have a nice evening mate
06:27 dcook           ta
06:27 dcook           Going to scope out a day care centre :)
06:27 dcook           all right got to head
06:27 ashimema        ;)
06:27 ashimema        hehe.. indeed
06:27 dcook           Oh well :)
06:27 dcook           I should've left that for next week
06:27 dcook           Ah, touche
06:27 ashimema        begin release day and all
06:26 ashimema        think tcohen may have enough on his mind today dcook ;)
06:26 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:26 dcook           @later tell tcohen If you're interested in DBIC, you should take a look at this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems
06:25 dcook           I really need to head off...
06:17 ashimema        mostly looks like code tidy to me :)
06:16 ashimema        I agree, 12338 looks like it should be signed off...
06:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password
06:16 wajasu          also bug 13143?
06:14 dcook           Might be able to let QA take a look at that now though..
06:14 dcook           Possibly. I'd have to look more, wajasu. I think Liz added some extra code after the last sign off
06:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13218 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Needs Signoff , usability enhancement for z39.50 search
06:13 dcook           Most of these problems could be avoided if we stopped using DBIC::Schema::Loader...
06:13 wajasu          i think bug 13218 might need its status changed to signed off.
06:13 ashimema        and I think the amount of comments you give on occasions proves your looking at the right things ;)
06:13 dcook           Hmm, lots of problems with DBIC... or rather... problems with using DBIC::Schema::Loader
06:12 dcook           That's true
06:12 ashimema        but in theory only qa team members can pass..
06:12 ashimema        anyone can fail something in my opinion.. that draws it to qa/rm's attention to look into it further..
06:12 dcook           Hmm, that would be handy
06:12 ashimema        being part of the team would allow you to pass some things ;)
06:10 dcook           Of course, I guess I care about a lot of things
06:10 dcook           Although I only comment on things I care about at the moment :p
06:10 dcook           I've been following the bugs listserv more as well..
06:09 dcook           But that's a good point
06:09 dcook           So much as just having discussion
06:09 dcook           I suppose I'm never sure if my comments are worth failing things
06:09 dcook           Hmm, that's a good point :p
06:03 ashimema        we could do with more people in qa
06:03 ashimema        dcook.. with all your comments, you should be on the qa team ;)
06:02 ashimema        which is not really the point ;)
06:02 ashimema        but do anything tricky and I keep reaching for dbic instead
06:02 ashimema        for the simple case they're cool..
06:02 ashimema        klkl
06:02 dcook           Yep
06:01 ashimema        at the moment I'm in the camp of 'their just making my life harder'
06:01 ashimema        mmm.. I go up and down on them allot..
06:01 dcook           some of which I put up on the bug
06:01 dcook           I just don't see it working well in a lot of cases
06:01 dcook           Well, sort of
06:01 dcook           But I'm intrigued
06:01 dcook           Mmm, not so much played as critiqued
06:00 ashimema        have you played with the koha::object stuff at all dcook?
06:00 dcook           Yeah, the tables are super weird
05:59 ashimema        the tables just seems wierd
05:59 dcook           A really bad idea actually
05:59 ashimema        the keys I can understand..
05:59 dcook           Although the one on biblio seems like a bad idea
05:59 dcook           I think the extra foreign keys were on purpose
05:59 dcook           I need to look up that commit..
05:59 dcook           I know right?
05:58 ashimema        that baffles me
05:58 ashimema        how on earth did we get to a state where the dbic schema has extra talbes?
05:58 dcook           Documentation probably needs a bit of tweaking as "solved" doesn't mean fixed
05:57 dcook           Totes
05:57 dcook           A few ideas about schema changes to happen now
05:57 ashimema        be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.20
05:57 ashimema        be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.2-
05:57 dcook           And...
05:57 dcook           One config change
05:57 dcook           Well, workarounds in a few cases
05:57 wahanui         That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema
05:57 ashimema        awesome..
05:57 dcook           Well, I have fixes for quite a few of them :)
05:57 ashimema        hopefully we can work on fixing them :)
05:57 ashimema        nicely documented..
05:56 ashimema        dang
05:56 dcook           I got 99 problems, and they're all related to DBIC
05:56 dcook           -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems
05:56 dcook           Oh yes it has
05:56 dcook           Ack
05:56 dcook           On a related note, check this out: But was getting an
05:56 ashimema        lots has happened since last night though ;)
05:55 ashimema        I remember..
05:55 dcook           That's MySQL
05:55 dcook           Well, that's not really sql
05:55 ashimema        sql can sometimes be a real mystery
05:55 dcook           You might not remember me posting some SQL last night that looked perfectly fine :p
05:55 ashimema        I see..
05:54 dcook           And InnoDB and MySQL doesn't like when that happens
05:54 dcook           the column referenced by the foreign key wasn't indexed
05:54 dcook           Solved that issue from last night :)
05:54 dcook           yo ashimema
05:52 ashimema        nighty night wajasu
05:51 wajasu          my day is over.   zzz zzz zzz
05:51 ashimema        morning #koha
05:51 ashimema        todays the day, todays the day :)
05:32 * Oak           waves
05:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , provide virtual-mysql-server Depends On to facilitate alternate mysql implementations
05:23 wajasu          eythian: i signed off bug 13359, hopefully its helpful for your packaging
05:16 ngourlay        there's no Nickserv on oftc?
03:38 huginn          wajasu: The operation succeeded.
03:38 wajasu          @later tell ethian: I'll attempt to build the packages (probably Friday, since I'm too full to test)
02:09 dcook           Must be there for some reason but just seems to cause problems
02:08 dcook           Not helpful!
02:08 dcook           }
02:08 dcook           $info->{data_type} = 'double precision';
02:08 dcook           elsif ($info->{data_type} eq 'double') {
02:08 dcook           DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::DBI::mysql, you're a jerk!
02:04 dcook           Well... that's a thing
02:02 dcook           But must parse the column_type individually to get the actual precision specified when defining the data type...
02:01 dcook           They store them all with the maximum numeric precision
02:01 dcook           Yep
02:01 dcook           Well then agaijn..
02:00 dcook           No wonder all the integers are defaulting to 11
02:00 dcook           Ahhh...tricksy MySQL
01:49 dcook           Well, I shouldn't get ahead of myself..
01:49 dcook           This might actually solve most of the problems I'm seeing..
01:48 dcook           Hopefully we'll only be using DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader for a limited period of time... but should probably write the right hooks so we have the right classes to go off of for the future...
01:48 dcook           Oh yeah... I think this should work well for what I have in mind...
01:47 dcook           Right now... looking at DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader hooks :D
01:47 dcook           I really  should give it a go sometime
01:38 wizzyrea        it was super slick when I did it
01:34 dcook           Cool
01:33 dcook           Ah, I see. Instructions below.
01:33 dcook           How could git bz be set up and ready to use?
01:32 dcook           Hmm
01:29 wahanui         kohadevbox is, like, at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
01:29 wizzyrea        kohadevbox?
01:29 wizzyrea        norwegian thing?
01:29 wizzyrea        hrmph.
01:29 wahanui         somebody said vagrant was an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
01:29 wizzyrea        vagrant?
01:29 wahanui         well, vagrant is an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
01:29 wizzyrea        vagrant?
01:11 dcook           I suppose I could be more Canadian
01:11 dcook           :p
01:10 wizzyrea        eh?
01:10 wizzyrea        hey dcook, how canadian are you?
01:08 dcook           wizzyrea: D'aww
01:08 dcook           jcamins: No,  but how else to show Australia how Canadian I am?
01:08 jcamins         dcook: are you in Canada?
01:07 wizzyrea        we like your heart beating.
01:07 * dcook         is tempted to have three poutine burgers in three days but thinks that might not be the best idea
01:07 dcook           Mmm lunch time at lunch time...
00:58 dcook           git++
00:57 jcamins         For just one instance.
00:57 jcamins         wizzyrea: yeah, I knew about that, but was trying to create the sql and tar files.
00:46 wizzyrea        that's probably the thing they saw
00:46 wizzyrea        just if someone was looking for something koha-*backup
00:46 eythian         as opposed to dumping the actual files
00:45 eythian         that manages the backup process
00:45 eythian         well that's different
00:44 wizzyrea        koha-run-backups or something
00:43 eythian         yeah. It's named like the dump/restore filesystem things
00:43 jcamins         eythian: I never need to run it by hand, so remembering the name of the script is not important.
00:42 eythian         jcamins: yes.
00:40 dcook           Quite the list now
00:40 dcook           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems
00:22 jcamins         It's called koha-dump. No wonder I can't seem to find the file anywhere.
00:22 jcamins         Oh, there's why.
00:20 jcamins         eythian: is koha-backup supposed to be installed by the Debian packages?