Time Nick Message 00:20 jcamins eythian: is koha-backup supposed to be installed by the Debian packages? 00:22 jcamins Oh, there's why. 00:22 jcamins It's called koha-dump. No wonder I can't seem to find the file anywhere. 00:40 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems 00:40 dcook Quite the list now 00:42 eythian jcamins: yes. 00:43 jcamins eythian: I never need to run it by hand, so remembering the name of the script is not important. 00:43 eythian yeah. It's named like the dump/restore filesystem things 00:44 wizzyrea koha-run-backups or something 00:45 eythian well that's different 00:45 eythian that manages the backup process 00:46 eythian as opposed to dumping the actual files 00:46 wizzyrea just if someone was looking for something koha-*backup 00:46 wizzyrea that's probably the thing they saw 00:57 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, I knew about that, but was trying to create the sql and tar files. 00:57 jcamins For just one instance. 00:58 dcook git++ 01:07 dcook Mmm lunch time at lunch time... 01:07 * dcook is tempted to have three poutine burgers in three days but thinks that might not be the best idea 01:07 wizzyrea we like your heart beating. 01:08 jcamins dcook: are you in Canada? 01:08 dcook jcamins: No, but how else to show Australia how Canadian I am? 01:08 dcook wizzyrea: D'aww 01:10 wizzyrea hey dcook, how canadian are you? 01:10 wizzyrea eh? 01:11 dcook :p 01:11 dcook I suppose I could be more Canadian 01:29 wizzyrea vagrant? 01:29 wahanui well, vagrant is an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/ 01:29 wizzyrea vagrant? 01:29 wahanui somebody said vagrant was an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/ 01:29 wizzyrea hrmph. 01:29 wizzyrea norwegian thing? 01:29 wizzyrea kohadevbox? 01:29 wahanui kohadevbox is, like, at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox 01:32 dcook Hmm 01:33 dcook How could git bz be set up and ready to use? 01:33 dcook Ah, I see. Instructions below. 01:34 dcook Cool 01:38 wizzyrea it was super slick when I did it 01:47 dcook I really should give it a go sometime 01:47 dcook Right now... looking at DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader hooks :D 01:48 dcook Oh yeah... I think this should work well for what I have in mind... 01:48 dcook Hopefully we'll only be using DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader for a limited period of time... but should probably write the right hooks so we have the right classes to go off of for the future... 01:49 dcook This might actually solve most of the problems I'm seeing.. 01:49 dcook Well, I shouldn't get ahead of myself.. 02:00 dcook Ahhh...tricksy MySQL 02:00 dcook No wonder all the integers are defaulting to 11 02:01 dcook Well then agaijn.. 02:01 dcook Yep 02:01 dcook They store them all with the maximum numeric precision 02:02 dcook But must parse the column_type individually to get the actual precision specified when defining the data type... 02:04 dcook Well... that's a thing 02:08 dcook DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::DBI::mysql, you're a jerk! 02:08 dcook elsif ($info->{data_type} eq 'double') { 02:08 dcook $info->{data_type} = 'double precision'; 02:08 dcook } 02:08 dcook Not helpful! 02:09 dcook Must be there for some reason but just seems to cause problems 03:38 wajasu @later tell ethian: I'll attempt to build the packages (probably Friday, since I'm too full to test) 03:38 huginn wajasu: The operation succeeded. 05:16 ngourlay there's no Nickserv on oftc? 05:23 wajasu eythian: i signed off bug 13359, hopefully its helpful for your packaging 05:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , provide virtual-mysql-server Depends On to facilitate alternate mysql implementations 05:32 * Oak waves 05:51 ashimema todays the day, todays the day :) 05:51 ashimema morning #koha 05:51 wajasu my day is over. zzz zzz zzz 05:52 ashimema nighty night wajasu 05:54 dcook yo ashimema 05:54 dcook Solved that issue from last night :) 05:54 dcook the column referenced by the foreign key wasn't indexed 05:54 dcook And InnoDB and MySQL doesn't like when that happens 05:55 ashimema I see.. 05:55 dcook You might not remember me posting some SQL last night that looked perfectly fine :p 05:55 ashimema sql can sometimes be a real mystery 05:55 dcook Well, that's not really sql 05:55 dcook That's MySQL 05:55 ashimema I remember.. 05:56 ashimema lots has happened since last night though ;) 05:56 dcook On a related note, check this out: But was getting an 05:56 dcook Ack 05:56 dcook Oh yes it has 05:56 dcook -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems 05:56 dcook I got 99 problems, and they're all related to DBIC 05:56 ashimema dang 05:57 ashimema nicely documented.. 05:57 ashimema hopefully we can work on fixing them :) 05:57 dcook Well, I have fixes for quite a few of them :) 05:57 ashimema awesome.. 05:57 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema 05:57 dcook Well, workarounds in a few cases 05:57 dcook One config change 05:57 dcook And... 05:57 ashimema be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.2- 05:57 ashimema be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.20 05:57 dcook A few ideas about schema changes to happen now 05:57 dcook Totes 05:58 dcook Documentation probably needs a bit of tweaking as "solved" doesn't mean fixed 05:58 ashimema how on earth did we get to a state where the dbic schema has extra talbes? 05:58 ashimema that baffles me 05:59 dcook I know right? 05:59 dcook I need to look up that commit.. 05:59 dcook I think the extra foreign keys were on purpose 05:59 dcook Although the one on biblio seems like a bad idea 05:59 ashimema the keys I can understand.. 05:59 dcook A really bad idea actually 05:59 ashimema the tables just seems wierd 06:00 dcook Yeah, the tables are super weird 06:00 ashimema have you played with the koha::object stuff at all dcook? 06:01 dcook Mmm, not so much played as critiqued 06:01 dcook But I'm intrigued 06:01 dcook Well, sort of 06:01 dcook I just don't see it working well in a lot of cases 06:01 dcook some of which I put up on the bug 06:01 ashimema mmm.. I go up and down on them allot.. 06:01 ashimema at the moment I'm in the camp of 'their just making my life harder' 06:02 dcook Yep 06:02 ashimema klkl 06:02 ashimema for the simple case they're cool.. 06:02 ashimema but do anything tricky and I keep reaching for dbic instead 06:02 ashimema which is not really the point ;) 06:03 ashimema dcook.. with all your comments, you should be on the qa team ;) 06:03 ashimema we could do with more people in qa 06:09 dcook Hmm, that's a good point :p 06:09 dcook I suppose I'm never sure if my comments are worth failing things 06:09 dcook So much as just having discussion 06:09 dcook But that's a good point 06:10 dcook I've been following the bugs listserv more as well.. 06:10 dcook Although I only comment on things I care about at the moment :p 06:10 dcook Of course, I guess I care about a lot of things 06:12 ashimema being part of the team would allow you to pass some things ;) 06:12 dcook Hmm, that would be handy 06:12 ashimema anyone can fail something in my opinion.. that draws it to qa/rm's attention to look into it further.. 06:12 ashimema but in theory only qa team members can pass.. 06:12 dcook That's true 06:13 dcook Hmm, lots of problems with DBIC... or rather... problems with using DBIC::Schema::Loader 06:13 ashimema and I think the amount of comments you give on occasions proves your looking at the right things ;) 06:13 wajasu i think bug 13218 might need its status changed to signed off. 06:13 dcook Most of these problems could be avoided if we stopped using DBIC::Schema::Loader... 06:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13218 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Needs Signoff , usability enhancement for z39.50 search 06:14 dcook Possibly. I'd have to look more, wajasu. I think Liz added some extra code after the last sign off 06:14 dcook Might be able to let QA take a look at that now though.. 06:16 wajasu also bug 13143? 06:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password 06:16 ashimema I agree, 12338 looks like it should be signed off... 06:17 ashimema mostly looks like code tidy to me :) 06:25 dcook I really need to head off... 06:26 dcook @later tell tcohen If you're interested in DBIC, you should take a look at this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems 06:26 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 06:26 ashimema think tcohen may have enough on his mind today dcook ;) 06:27 ashimema begin release day and all 06:27 dcook Ah, touche 06:27 dcook I should've left that for next week 06:27 dcook Oh well :) 06:27 ashimema hehe.. indeed 06:27 ashimema ;) 06:27 dcook all right got to head 06:27 dcook Going to scope out a day care centre :) 06:27 dcook ta 06:28 ashimema have a nice evening mate 06:28 wajasu dcook: when i was playing DBIx last year, i used Test-DBIx-Class-Schema-1.0.2 for adding testing. 06:29 wajasu in my environment. so if we have the class in git now... it might be useful 06:29 wajasu time for zzzzzz. 06:52 drojf good morning #koha 06:59 cait hi drojf :) 06:59 cait release day! 06:59 drojf hi cait :) 07:14 * magnuse waves 07:15 magnuse @arewethereyet 07:15 huginn magnuse: YES! 07:15 cait heh 07:15 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (8:00 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 07:15 magnuse @wunder boo 07:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:50 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 07:15 magnuse hah! 07:17 drojf hi magnuse 07:18 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:18 magnuse kia ora drojf 07:18 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 0.6°C (8:15 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 07:18 magnuse hah!! 07:18 drojf i win! :D 07:18 magnuse no way, i win! 07:18 magnuse well, we are all winners ;-) 07:18 drojf yay \o/ 07:20 cait lol 07:20 cait i guesss bag would be winner here 07:23 magnuse @wunder bag 07:23 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 07:23 drojf :D 07:23 magnuse if we could find him 07:24 magnuse we can haz cats in the catalogue? 07:25 drojf what else is a cat-alogue for? 07:28 magnuse that is, indeed, the question 07:34 cait has someone tried it out yet? 07:41 reiveune hello 07:41 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:57 wahanui hello, alex_a 08:12 magnuse bonjour france! 08:21 * magnuse can't see the cats 08:37 cait hi #koha 08:38 Joubu o/ 08:38 ngourlay hi #koha 08:38 cait hi Joubu 08:39 ngourlay I've submitted a patch to koha-patches, but it looks from the archives to be low volume. 08:40 ngourlay do people generally submit through bugzilla? 08:41 nlegrand hey #koha o/ 08:41 magnuse hiya nlegrand 08:42 nlegrand o/ 08:42 magnuse ngourlay: yes, bugzilla is the preferred method 08:42 ngourlay ok 08:42 magnuse ngourlay: here is how most of us are doing it at the moment: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 08:43 cait hi gaetan_B 08:43 gaetan_B hello 08:44 magnuse [off] cait: click somewhere inside the opacmainuserblock: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/ 08:45 magnuse [off] cait: and hover over "unAPI" below the image here: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1 08:47 cait hm it looks a little broken 08:47 paxed [off] magnuse: the unapi popup menu in the biblio data needs better z-index. 08:56 magnuse [off] https://github.com/gmcharlt/LibraryCat/issues :-) 08:59 drojf :D 09:11 magnuse [off] https://github.com/gmcharlt/LibraryCat/issues/1 "unAPI widget confict with cover image in Koha" 09:20 magnuse when we add subs to @EXPORT, som have a leading & and some don't - any reason for that? 09:28 ngourlay thx magnuse - I'll use giz_bz in future 10:51 kivilahtio Bug 4283 10:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Merge bibliographic records 10:52 kivilahtio I can see some quite pretty screenshots, but is there code for this anywhere? 10:59 cait kivilahtio: hm? 10:59 cait merging records has been a feature for a while :) 10:59 cait ah ok 11:00 cait looking at the screenshots 11:00 cait not sure we have that 11:03 cait kivilahtio: ok, sorry for being confusing. We can merge records, but it has nothing to do with this bug. It looks like it never got submitted, it might be in the Liblime version of Koha. 11:09 kivilahtio cait: thansk 11:10 kivilahtio cait: all the functionality already exists in Koha, just needs a bit of refactoring love :) 11:10 kivilahtio cait: We got couple of hundred duplicates from the acquisitions module, so looking for a nice way of fixing that issue. 11:10 kivilahtio cait: I guess this feature is better than just a script 11:13 cait kivilahtio: what you can do now is merge via a list - you put both records on a list - then you can start the merging from there 11:13 cait you get a view with both records and can combine them or just let 'one' survive 11:13 cait it's nice, but probably not for a problem with a bit amount of records 11:13 cait unless you write something to use the code and do it automatically 11:35 Joubu kivilahtio: bug 8064 11:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8064 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Merge several biblio records 12:34 tcohen_ morning 12:59 schnydszch hi all what does this mean when i run fines.pl?: Use of uninitialized value $branchcode in exists at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl line 110. using 3.16.4. TIA 13:05 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks for the tip! 13:07 tcohen hi Joubu 13:08 tcohen thanks dcook 13:08 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 13:08 tcohen hi magnuse 13:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13353 - changelog update specifically for the 3.18 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a4e24dba097dbbc99fa30eea27a09cda6cea04a> 15:36 bag morning 15:40 cait morning bag 15:40 cait @wunder Konstanz 15:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 3.7°C (4:40 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 15:40 bag hi cait 15:40 bag @wunder 93111 15:40 huginn bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 11.7°C (7:40 AM PST on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 15:41 nlegrand @wunder Paris 15:41 huginn nlegrand: Error: No such location could be found. 15:41 nlegrand :( 15:42 bag hmm today is release day correct? 15:42 przemas_ hi cait 15:45 cait bag correct 15:45 cait hi przemas_ 15:46 przemas_ cait - you were right about to install the english version koha - it seems that polish version is incomplete while setting Sql database 15:47 cait ah not good 15:47 przemas_ I installed the english version and add polish language 15:48 cait it's been a whie i think since we had an active maintainer for it 15:48 cait for the polish installation files 15:48 przemas_ and cataloging apper now in polish version 15:48 cait that's good at least 15:50 przemas_ some settings must be set manually for example: currency, z38.50 servers 15:59 przemas_ Polish users do not have a well-functioning Koha forum. :( 15:59 przemas_ One that I found is almost dead. 16:01 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 16:01 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.3°C (1:00 PM ART on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 16:03 przemas_ @wunder Warsaw, poland 16:03 huginn przemas_: The current temperature in Meteo W-wa Okecie, Warszawa, Poland is -1.5°C (5:00 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 16:04 tcohen wooo hoooo 16:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.18.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0da3b77e509000541b62942cdef5f76de1bdbfb1> / Translation updates for Koha 3.18.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9b50a47b4da7b843e9e7c2cb63770797f0066bf> / Release notes for 3.18.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be183b3c6bb4c18ed6eeb7d93ce61d77c403ec 16:16 reiveune bye 16:31 cait przemas_: you can always come here :) 16:33 przemas_ thanx :) cait - bye for now :) 16:37 cait tcohrn++ 16:39 cait h 16:39 cait m 16:39 cait tochen++ 16:39 cait hm 16:40 cait tcohen++ 16:40 cait apparently it's time for the weekend :) 16:40 cait tochen-- 16:40 cait tcohrn-- 16:40 cait balancing... 16:41 cait @karma 16:41 huginn cait: Highest karma: "cait" (177), "gmcharlt" (152), and "tcohen" (124). Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-9). You (cait) are ranked 1 out of 324. 17:05 bag tcohen++ 17:29 gaetan_B bye 17:38 tcohen hi 17:38 wahanui kia ora, tcohen 18:32 gmcharlt tcohen++ 18:33 * tcohen jumps of joy 18:38 bgkriegel tcohen++ 18:40 tcohen koha++ 18:40 tcohen opensource++ 19:09 jcamins construction-- 19:09 jcamins tcohen++ 19:12 jcamins renovations-- 19:12 jcamins home_ownership-- 19:12 tcohen =D 19:12 tcohen bye #koha 19:13 tcohen it's fernet o'clock it seems 19:13 tcohen cait++ 19:13 tcohen Joubu++ 19:13 tcohen bgkriegel++ 19:13 tcohen jcamins++ 19:13 tcohen bye! 19:17 cait now... did i miss the party? 19:18 jcamins Yes. We all roundly cursed construction projects, then started drinking fernet. 19:18 cait with coca or with pepsi? 19:19 jcamins I'm not sure. 19:19 jcamins I don't have any fernet. :( 19:19 cait ooh 19:20 cait tcohen++ 20:05 RowdyChildren is the debian package for 3.18 up yet? 20:09 cait not sure 20:09 cait i think maybe not - it's weekend in nz 20:11 RowdyChildren cait: thanks 20:12 * cait is very exctied about 3.18 :) 20:15 * RowdyChildren is happy they fixed the issue with Chrome 20:15 cait which was taht? 20:24 RowdyChildren cait: The chrome print dialog 20:25 cait ah 20:25 cait don't remember htat one - too many :) 20:25 RowdyChildren it was anoying, plus my reciept printer wouldn't stop printing 20:26 cait ah, sounds not good 22:28 magnuse tcohen++ koha++ community++ 22:28 magnuse ...and tomorrow we start working on 3.19! 22:29 magnuse have fun, #koha! 22:29 magnuse @later tell bag HI! 22:29 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.