Time  Nick            Message
00:20 jcamins         eythian: is koha-backup supposed to be installed by the Debian packages?
00:22 jcamins         Oh, there's why.
00:22 jcamins         It's called koha-dump. No wonder I can't seem to find the file anywhere.
00:40 dcook           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems
00:40 dcook           Quite the list now
00:42 eythian         jcamins: yes.
00:43 jcamins         eythian: I never need to run it by hand, so remembering the name of the script is not important.
00:43 eythian         yeah. It's named like the dump/restore filesystem things
00:44 wizzyrea        koha-run-backups or something
00:45 eythian         well that's different
00:45 eythian         that manages the backup process
00:46 eythian         as opposed to dumping the actual files
00:46 wizzyrea        just if someone was looking for something koha-*backup
00:46 wizzyrea        that's probably the thing they saw
00:57 jcamins         wizzyrea: yeah, I knew about that, but was trying to create the sql and tar files.
00:57 jcamins         For just one instance.
00:58 dcook           git++
01:07 dcook           Mmm lunch time at lunch time...
01:07 * dcook         is tempted to have three poutine burgers in three days but thinks that might not be the best idea
01:07 wizzyrea        we like your heart beating.
01:08 jcamins         dcook: are you in Canada?
01:08 dcook           jcamins: No,  but how else to show Australia how Canadian I am?
01:08 dcook           wizzyrea: D'aww
01:10 wizzyrea        hey dcook, how canadian are you?
01:10 wizzyrea        eh?
01:11 dcook           :p
01:11 dcook           I suppose I could be more Canadian
01:29 wizzyrea        vagrant?
01:29 wahanui         well, vagrant is an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
01:29 wizzyrea        vagrant?
01:29 wahanui         somebody said vagrant was an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
01:29 wizzyrea        hrmph.
01:29 wizzyrea        norwegian thing?
01:29 wizzyrea        kohadevbox?
01:29 wahanui         kohadevbox is, like, at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
01:32 dcook           Hmm
01:33 dcook           How could git bz be set up and ready to use?
01:33 dcook           Ah, I see. Instructions below.
01:34 dcook           Cool
01:38 wizzyrea        it was super slick when I did it
01:47 dcook           I really  should give it a go sometime
01:47 dcook           Right now... looking at DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader hooks :D
01:48 dcook           Oh yeah... I think this should work well for what I have in mind...
01:48 dcook           Hopefully we'll only be using DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader for a limited period of time... but should probably write the right hooks so we have the right classes to go off of for the future...
01:49 dcook           This might actually solve most of the problems I'm seeing..
01:49 dcook           Well, I shouldn't get ahead of myself..
02:00 dcook           Ahhh...tricksy MySQL
02:00 dcook           No wonder all the integers are defaulting to 11
02:01 dcook           Well then agaijn..
02:01 dcook           Yep
02:01 dcook           They store them all with the maximum numeric precision
02:02 dcook           But must parse the column_type individually to get the actual precision specified when defining the data type...
02:04 dcook           Well... that's a thing
02:08 dcook           DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::DBI::mysql, you're a jerk!
02:08 dcook           elsif ($info->{data_type} eq 'double') {
02:08 dcook           $info->{data_type} = 'double precision';
02:08 dcook           }
02:08 dcook           Not helpful!
02:09 dcook           Must be there for some reason but just seems to cause problems
03:38 wajasu          @later tell ethian: I'll attempt to build the packages (probably Friday, since I'm too full to test)
03:38 huginn          wajasu: The operation succeeded.
05:16 ngourlay        there's no Nickserv on oftc?
05:23 wajasu          eythian: i signed off bug 13359, hopefully its helpful for your packaging
05:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , provide virtual-mysql-server Depends On to facilitate alternate mysql implementations
05:32 * Oak           waves
05:51 ashimema        todays the day, todays the day :)
05:51 ashimema        morning #koha
05:51 wajasu          my day is over.   zzz zzz zzz
05:52 ashimema        nighty night wajasu
05:54 dcook           yo ashimema
05:54 dcook           Solved that issue from last night :)
05:54 dcook           the column referenced by the foreign key wasn't indexed
05:54 dcook           And InnoDB and MySQL doesn't like when that happens
05:55 ashimema        I see..
05:55 dcook           You might not remember me posting some SQL last night that looked perfectly fine :p
05:55 ashimema        sql can sometimes be a real mystery
05:55 dcook           Well, that's not really sql
05:55 dcook           That's MySQL
05:55 ashimema        I remember..
05:56 ashimema        lots has happened since last night though ;)
05:56 dcook           On a related note, check this out: But was getting an
05:56 dcook           Ack
05:56 dcook           Oh yes it has
05:56 dcook           -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems
05:56 dcook           I got 99 problems, and they're all related to DBIC
05:56 ashimema        dang
05:57 ashimema        nicely documented..
05:57 ashimema        hopefully we can work on fixing them :)
05:57 dcook           Well, I have fixes for quite a few of them :)
05:57 ashimema        awesome..
05:57 wahanui         That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema
05:57 dcook           Well, workarounds in a few cases
05:57 dcook           One config change
05:57 dcook           And...
05:57 ashimema        be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.2-
05:57 ashimema        be nice to have allot of them implimented to 3.20
05:57 dcook           A few ideas about schema changes to happen now
05:57 dcook           Totes
05:58 dcook           Documentation probably needs a bit of tweaking as "solved" doesn't mean fixed
05:58 ashimema        how on earth did we get to a state where the dbic schema has extra talbes?
05:58 ashimema        that baffles me
05:59 dcook           I know right?
05:59 dcook           I need to look up that commit..
05:59 dcook           I think the extra foreign keys were on purpose
05:59 dcook           Although the one on biblio seems like a bad idea
05:59 ashimema        the keys I can understand..
05:59 dcook           A really bad idea actually
05:59 ashimema        the tables just seems wierd
06:00 dcook           Yeah, the tables are super weird
06:00 ashimema        have you played with the koha::object stuff at all dcook?
06:01 dcook           Mmm, not so much played as critiqued
06:01 dcook           But I'm intrigued
06:01 dcook           Well, sort of
06:01 dcook           I just don't see it working well in a lot of cases
06:01 dcook           some of which I put up on the bug
06:01 ashimema        mmm.. I go up and down on them allot..
06:01 ashimema        at the moment I'm in the camp of 'their just making my life harder'
06:02 dcook           Yep
06:02 ashimema        klkl
06:02 ashimema        for the simple case they're cool..
06:02 ashimema        but do anything tricky and I keep reaching for dbic instead
06:02 ashimema        which is not really the point ;)
06:03 ashimema        dcook.. with all your comments, you should be on the qa team ;)
06:03 ashimema        we could do with more people in qa
06:09 dcook           Hmm, that's a good point :p
06:09 dcook           I suppose I'm never sure if my comments are worth failing things
06:09 dcook           So much as just having discussion
06:09 dcook           But that's a good point
06:10 dcook           I've been following the bugs listserv more as well..
06:10 dcook           Although I only comment on things I care about at the moment :p
06:10 dcook           Of course, I guess I care about a lot of things
06:12 ashimema        being part of the team would allow you to pass some things ;)
06:12 dcook           Hmm, that would be handy
06:12 ashimema        anyone can fail something in my opinion.. that draws it to qa/rm's attention to look into it further..
06:12 ashimema        but in theory only qa team members can pass..
06:12 dcook           That's true
06:13 dcook           Hmm, lots of problems with DBIC... or rather... problems with using DBIC::Schema::Loader
06:13 ashimema        and I think the amount of comments you give on occasions proves your looking at the right things ;)
06:13 wajasu          i think bug 13218 might need its status changed to signed off.
06:13 dcook           Most of these problems could be avoided if we stopped using DBIC::Schema::Loader...
06:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13218 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Needs Signoff , usability enhancement for z39.50 search
06:14 dcook           Possibly. I'd have to look more, wajasu. I think Liz added some extra code after the last sign off
06:14 dcook           Might be able to let QA take a look at that now though..
06:16 wajasu          also bug 13143?
06:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password
06:16 ashimema        I agree, 12338 looks like it should be signed off...
06:17 ashimema        mostly looks like code tidy to me :)
06:25 dcook           I really need to head off...
06:26 dcook           @later tell tcohen If you're interested in DBIC, you should take a look at this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Koha_DBIx::Class_Problems
06:26 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:26 ashimema        think tcohen may have enough on his mind today dcook ;)
06:27 ashimema        begin release day and all
06:27 dcook           Ah, touche
06:27 dcook           I should've left that for next week
06:27 dcook           Oh well :)
06:27 ashimema        hehe.. indeed
06:27 ashimema        ;)
06:27 dcook           all right got to head
06:27 dcook           Going to scope out a day care centre :)
06:27 dcook           ta
06:28 ashimema        have a nice evening mate
06:28 wajasu          dcook: when i was playing DBIx last year, i used Test-DBIx-Class-Schema-1.0.2 for adding testing.
06:29 wajasu          in my environment.  so if we have the class in git now... it might be useful
06:29 wajasu          time for zzzzzz.
06:52 drojf           good morning #koha
06:59 cait            hi drojf :)
06:59 cait            release day!
06:59 drojf           hi cait :)
07:14 * magnuse       waves
07:15 magnuse         @arewethereyet
07:15 huginn          magnuse: YES!
07:15 cait            heh
07:15 cait            @wunder Konstanz
07:15 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (8:00 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
07:15 magnuse         @wunder boo
07:15 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:50 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:15 magnuse         hah!
07:17 drojf           hi magnuse
07:18 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:18 magnuse         kia ora drojf
07:18 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 0.6°C (8:15 AM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:18 magnuse         hah!!
07:18 drojf           i win! :D
07:18 magnuse         no way, i win!
07:18 magnuse         well, we are all winners ;-)
07:18 drojf           yay \o/
07:20 cait            lol
07:20 cait            i guesss bag would be winner here
07:23 magnuse         @wunder bag
07:23 huginn          magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:23 drojf           :D
07:23 magnuse         if we could find him
07:24 magnuse         we can haz cats in the catalogue?
07:25 drojf           what else is a cat-alogue for?
07:28 magnuse         that is, indeed, the question
07:34 cait            has someone tried it out yet?
07:41 reiveune        hello
07:41 wahanui         niihau, reiveune
07:57 alex_a          bonjour
07:57 wahanui         hello, alex_a
08:12 magnuse         bonjour france!
08:21 * magnuse       can't see the cats
08:37 cait            hi #koha
08:38 Joubu           o/
08:38 ngourlay        hi #koha
08:38 cait            hi Joubu
08:39 ngourlay        I've submitted a patch to koha-patches, but it looks from the archives to be low volume.
08:40 ngourlay        do people generally submit through bugzilla?
08:41 nlegrand        hey #koha o/
08:41 magnuse         hiya nlegrand
08:42 nlegrand        o/
08:42 magnuse         ngourlay: yes, bugzilla is the preferred method
08:42 ngourlay        ok
08:42 magnuse         ngourlay: here is how most of us are doing it at the moment: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
08:43 cait            hi gaetan_B
08:43 gaetan_B        hello
08:44 magnuse         [off] cait: click somewhere inside the opacmainuserblock: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/
08:45 magnuse         [off] cait: and hover over "unAPI" below the image here: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1
08:47 cait            hm it looks a little broken
08:47 paxed           [off] magnuse: the unapi popup menu in the biblio data needs better z-index.
08:56 magnuse         [off] https://github.com/gmcharlt/LibraryCat/issues :-)
08:59 drojf           :D
09:11 magnuse         [off] https://github.com/gmcharlt/LibraryCat/issues/1 "unAPI widget confict with cover image in Koha"
09:20 magnuse         when we add subs to @EXPORT, som have a leading & and some don't - any reason for that?
09:28 ngourlay        thx magnuse - I'll use giz_bz in future
10:51 kivilahtio      Bug 4283
10:51 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Merge bibliographic records
10:52 kivilahtio      I can see some quite pretty screenshots, but is there code for this anywhere?
10:59 cait            kivilahtio: hm?
10:59 cait            merging records has been a feature for a while :)
10:59 cait            ah ok
11:00 cait            looking at the screenshots
11:00 cait            not sure we have that
11:03 cait            kivilahtio: ok, sorry for being confusing. We can merge records, but it has nothing to do with this bug. It looks like it never got submitted, it might be in the Liblime version of Koha.
11:09 kivilahtio      cait: thansk
11:10 kivilahtio      cait: all the functionality already exists in Koha, just needs a bit of refactoring love :)
11:10 kivilahtio      cait: We got couple of hundred duplicates from the acquisitions module, so looking for a nice way of fixing that issue.
11:10 kivilahtio      cait: I guess this feature is better than just a script
11:13 cait            kivilahtio: what you can do now is merge via a list - you put both records on a list - then you can start the merging from there
11:13 cait            you get a view with both records and can combine them or just let 'one' survive
11:13 cait            it's nice, but probably not for a problem with a bit amount of records
11:13 cait            unless you write something to use the code and do it automatically
11:35 Joubu           kivilahtio: bug 8064
11:35 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8064 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Merge several biblio records
12:34 tcohen_         morning
12:59 schnydszch      hi all what does this mean when i run fines.pl?: Use of uninitialized value $branchcode in exists at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl line 110. using 3.16.4. TIA
13:05 kivilahtio      Joubu: thanks for the tip!
13:07 tcohen          hi Joubu
13:08 tcohen          thanks dcook
13:08 magnuse         ¡hola tcohen!
13:08 tcohen          hi magnuse
13:13 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13353 - changelog update specifically for the 3.18 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a4e24dba097dbbc99fa30eea27a09cda6cea04a>
15:36 bag             morning
15:40 cait            morning bag
15:40 cait            @wunder Konstanz
15:40 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 3.7°C (4:40 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
15:40 bag             hi cait
15:40 bag             @wunder 93111
15:40 huginn          bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 11.7°C (7:40 AM PST on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
15:41 nlegrand        @wunder Paris
15:41 huginn          nlegrand: Error: No such location could be found.
15:41 nlegrand        :(
15:42 bag             hmm today is release day correct?
15:42 przemas_        hi cait
15:45 cait            bag correct
15:45 cait            hi przemas_
15:46 przemas_        cait - you were right about to install the english version koha - it seems that polish version is incomplete while setting Sql database
15:47 cait            ah not good
15:47 przemas_        I installed the english version and add polish language
15:48 cait            it's been a whie i think since we had an active maintainer for it
15:48 cait            for the polish installation files
15:48 przemas_        and cataloging apper now in polish version
15:48 cait            that's good at least
15:50 przemas_        some settings must be set manually for example: currency, z38.50 servers
15:59 przemas_        Polish users do not have a well-functioning Koha forum. :(
15:59 przemas_        One that I found is almost dead.
16:01 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
16:01 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.3°C (1:00 PM ART on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
16:03 przemas_        @wunder Warsaw, poland
16:03 huginn          przemas_: The current temperature in Meteo W-wa Okecie, Warszawa, Poland is -1.5°C (5:00 PM CET on November 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
16:04 tcohen          wooo hoooo
16:15 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.18.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0da3b77e509000541b62942cdef5f76de1bdbfb1> / Translation updates for Koha 3.18.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9b50a47b4da7b843e9e7c2cb63770797f0066bf> / Release notes for 3.18.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be183b3c6bb4c18ed6eeb7d93ce61d77c403ec
16:16 reiveune        bye
16:31 cait            przemas_: you can always come here :)
16:33 przemas_        thanx :) cait - bye for now :)
16:37 cait            tcohrn++
16:39 cait            h
16:39 cait            m
16:39 cait            tochen++
16:39 cait            hm
16:40 cait            tcohen++
16:40 cait            apparently it's time for the weekend :)
16:40 cait            tochen--
16:40 cait            tcohrn--
16:40 cait            balancing...
16:41 cait            @karma
16:41 huginn          cait: Highest karma: "cait" (177), "gmcharlt" (152), and "tcohen" (124).  Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-9).  You (cait) are ranked 1 out of 324.
17:05 bag             tcohen++
17:29 gaetan_B        bye
17:38 tcohen          hi
17:38 wahanui         kia ora, tcohen
18:32 gmcharlt        tcohen++
18:33 * tcohen        jumps of joy
18:38 bgkriegel       tcohen++
18:40 tcohen          koha++
18:40 tcohen          opensource++
19:09 jcamins         construction--
19:09 jcamins         tcohen++
19:12 jcamins         renovations--
19:12 jcamins         home_ownership--
19:12 tcohen          =D
19:12 tcohen          bye #koha
19:13 tcohen          it's fernet o'clock it seems
19:13 tcohen          cait++
19:13 tcohen          Joubu++
19:13 tcohen          bgkriegel++
19:13 tcohen          jcamins++
19:13 tcohen          bye!
19:17 cait            now... did i miss the party?
19:18 jcamins         Yes. We all roundly cursed construction projects, then started drinking fernet.
19:18 cait            with coca or with pepsi?
19:19 jcamins         I'm not sure.
19:19 jcamins         I don't have any fernet. :(
19:19 cait            ooh
19:20 cait            tcohen++
20:05 RowdyChildren   is the debian package for 3.18 up yet?
20:09 cait            not sure
20:09 cait            i think maybe not - it's weekend in nz
20:11 RowdyChildren   cait: thanks
20:12 * cait          is very exctied about 3.18 :)
20:15 * RowdyChildren is happy they fixed the issue with Chrome
20:15 cait            which was taht?
20:24 RowdyChildren   cait: The chrome print dialog
20:25 cait            ah
20:25 cait            don't remember htat one - too many :)
20:25 RowdyChildren   it was anoying, plus my reciept printer wouldn't stop printing
20:26 cait            ah, sounds not good
22:28 magnuse         tcohen++ koha++ community++
22:28 magnuse         ...and tomorrow we start working on 3.19!
22:29 magnuse         have fun, #koha!
22:29 magnuse         @later tell bag HI!
22:29 huginn          magnuse: The operation succeeded.