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23:46 dcook Or not... that was weird
23:46 dcook Tried it again and now I think I've broken something..
23:46 dcook Hmm
23:45 dcook Thanks guys :)
23:45 wahanui i guess Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing?
23:45 dcook Beautiful!
23:43 eythian rebase -i makes it very easy to cut/paste things around
23:43 dcook I was going to do rebase -i then just ignore B
23:43 dcook Mmm, I hadn't thought of reordering them... interesting
23:43 rangi it often works just fine
23:43 eythian the easy way to find out is to try
23:43 rangi and squash
23:43 eythian it might work, it might give you conflicts
23:43 rangi reorder them
23:43 dcook I can't imagine there being any problems there
23:43 rangi just rebase -i
23:42 dcook C touches on files changed in A, but B is completely unrelated
23:42 dcook Ideally, I'd like to squash A and C together
23:42 dcook A, B, and C
23:42 dcook So, I have three in a row
23:42 dcook I've been thinking about squashing some commits in Git
23:41 dcook Actually, while you two are around...
23:38 dcook Thanks for confirming, eythian and rangi :)
23:38 dcook Then we use updatedatabase.pl to update the database for existing installs..
23:37 dcook I guess kohastructure.sql can be run on a clean DB then they can make the resultsets from there
23:37 rangi yep for the time being yes
23:37 dcook Mm, and we still update kohastructure.sql
23:37 eythian I think that's it, yeah
23:37 dcook And the release manager handles adding the DBIC resultsets?
23:37 dcook We still use updatedatabase.pl?
23:36 dcook Anyone around who can offer some insight about how database updates are managed these days?
23:01 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
23:01 eythian @later tell tcohen can't build 3.18 beta: http://paste.koha-community.org/290
23:00 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "3.18 beta doesn't build" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/290
22:31 mveron good night / daytime #koha
22:21 nengard cbrannon you're awesome
22:19 cbrannon nengard, I e-mailed the answer to you.
22:17 cbrannon Ack, doesn't translate. I'll e-mail it to you.
22:17 cbrannon nengard of Vahalla, the magic is $("#holdst th:nth-child(6),#holdst td:nth-child(6)").hide();
22:05 nengard okay - i'll tell them we're trying but it might not be possible
22:05 nengard yuck
22:04 cbrannon nengard, not having any luck yet. Still working on it. So far it just breaks the page.
21:46 nengard hehe
21:46 cbrannon should be easy enough. Just testing.
21:45 cbrannon working on it
21:45 nengard is there maybe no answer
21:45 * nengard is worrying at how long this is taking cbrannon ...
21:31 cait bye all
21:31 cait ok :) time fo rme to sleep
21:30 cbrannon yes. Thank you. I will look at the framework as soon as I find an answer for nengard. :)
21:30 cait cbrannon: did you see my pm?
21:29 nengard :) hehe
21:29 * cait loves having cbrannon to help nengard and with qa soon :)
21:28 * nengard loves having cbrannon help her :)
21:28 cbrannon give me a sec...
21:28 nengard so i want to hide the column if i can
21:28 nengard yup
21:28 cait ok, tht complicates :)
21:28 nengard :)
21:28 cait ah
21:28 nengard they want to be able to suspend all but not individual
21:28 cait i think cbrannon might be right
21:28 cait hm
21:28 nengard just can you suspend or not
21:28 nengard nope
21:27 cbrannon isn't there a preference for that feature?
21:27 nengard i agree
21:27 wahanui ideas are good :)
21:27 nengard ideas?
21:27 nengard doesn't work
21:27 nengard $("#holdst th:contains['Suspend']").hide();
21:27 nengard $("#holdst td:contains['Suspend']").hide();
21:27 nengard I'm trying to hide the suspend column on the opac
21:27 nengard :)
21:25 wahanui Don't ask to ask, just ask.
21:25 eythian wahanui: ask
21:24 nengard anyone around who can help with some jquery?
21:14 eythian hi cait
21:14 cait hi eythian
21:09 wahanui hola, eythian
21:09 eythian hi
20:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12376 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , blinking cursor not clear in larger resolutions
20:48 mveron experience... Bug 12376
20:48 mveron Sometimes 2 pixels can greatly enhance user xerience -
20:32 wizzyrea haha
20:32 mveron ...and goulash stroganow... :-)
20:32 cait impressive :)
20:32 wizzyrea lol 1. fun theme 2. good interpretations
20:31 mveron I did it a couple of weeks ago for a James Bond dinner for a friend of ours. The wedges for Gold Finger, sea salt for diamonds are forever, mango cream for the mango song of Swiss Ursula Andress. And russian salade...
20:29 wizzyrea beetroot would be awesome like that.
20:29 cait and a salad
20:29 cait so i had potato wedges and celery stripes for dinner tonight :)
20:29 wizzyrea aha
20:29 cait mveron recommended baking celery in the oven like you do potato wedges
20:28 wizzyrea I may have to read the scrollback
20:28 cait :)
20:28 mveron And sea salt, the one with big cristals
20:27 mveron Yes.
20:27 cait maybe next time - raw beets?
20:27 mveron I like it very much. The same with beetroot...
20:26 cait it was really nice
20:26 cait mveron: thx for the tip with the celery
20:25 mveron Oh, partytime? - Coming from a dinner I had with my brother...
20:25 cait well... we could have one?
20:25 wizzyrea is there a party!?
20:25 cait hi mveron :) showing up for the beta release party? :)
20:25 mveron Good evening / daytime #koha
20:23 nengard and cait
20:23 nengard thanks wizzyrea
20:23 wizzyrea schema definitely says that the link is biblionumber.
20:19 cait hm multiple suggestions for the same record maybe... but that is a problem currently anyway... we are not dealing well with duplicate wishes
20:18 cait i think it should still work ok... at least i fail to find a problem use case right now
20:17 nengard was thinking the suggestionid would be in the aqorders table
20:16 cait maybe a bit sloppy :)
20:16 nengard okay
20:16 cait hm makes sense to me
20:15 nengard that seems kind of sloppy
20:15 nengard hmmm
20:14 cait aqorders - biblio - suggestions
20:14 cait nengard: suggestions has a biblionumber column ,that would be my guess
20:13 cait maybe by biblionumber
20:13 cait hm an ordered suggestion?
20:11 nengard hey all, i'm trying to find out how a purchase suggestion is linked to a order in the db
20:07 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/koha-3-18-beta-released/ I can't get this to misbehave
20:05 * cait hopes tcohen listens to himself
20:04 * cait waves at wizzyrea
20:03 wizzyrea hi
19:34 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:34 tcohen @later tell tcohen have a nice evening, try to relax now
19:33 cait :)
19:31 tcohen koha++
19:31 cait koha++
19:28 cait wohoo tcohen++
19:27 nengard YUM
19:27 * cait made potato wedges! in the new oven!
19:26 cait :)
19:26 cait heh .9
19:25 ashimema :)
19:24 tcohen sneaky oleonard
19:20 oleonard Ooh I spy a 3.18 beta
19:14 nengard knew it was something small and silly
19:14 nengard which i guess you put in :)
19:14 nengard oleonard .... i was missing the $
19:13 nengard off to check
19:13 nengard hmmm - okay then maybe a problem in the jquery above it in the pref
19:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev 3.17.00.057 (Koha 3.18 beta) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cd7c24c11d46bed02601b0e63e62ade2995df8d> / Bug 9043: DBRev 3.17.00.056 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b500b996efca363fac8f908ed54f9647933f939> / Bug 9043: The comma (,) should be kept to separate multi-valuated prefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dddde5896
19:12 oleonard I don't know what to tell you nengard, it works for me.
19:11 nengard http://screencast.com/t/IcmtpoUmpItI
19:11 nengard thought maybe i was missing a quote
19:10 nengard hence my confusion
19:10 nengard yup
19:09 oleonard nengard: Did you use Firebug to inspect the elements and confirm the attributes you're targeting?
19:01 nengard this is simple stuff
19:01 nengard has to be something small i'm missing
19:01 nengard oleonard ^^
19:01 nengard ("#memberentry_altaddress label[for='altcontactfirstname']").html("Organization");
19:01 nengard okay, why the heck isn't this working?
18:57 khall thanks for the heads up!
18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12971 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Regression: Patron print summary doesn't show checkouts
18:57 oleonard khall: Bug 12971 needs a GPL license fix
18:56 khall wait, what did I just miss? ; )
18:55 wahanui khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;)
18:55 oleonard khall?
18:26 tcohen bywater
18:01 cait ohoh
18:01 tcohen was waiting for you
18:01 tcohen cait:
17:46 tcohen I love the dropdown list too ;)
17:46 tcohen oleonard: indeed!
17:41 oleonard Looks good to me tcohen
17:36 oleonard I find it interesting that libraries can now configure the advanced search "more options" view to have fewer options
17:28 oleonard Working on it tcohen
17:26 * tcohen is anxious :-P
17:26 tcohen :-D
17:26 tcohen have you manged to test it?
17:25 oleonard ?
17:23 tcohen oleonard: ?
17:06 tcohen yeap
17:05 oleonard Oh are all the other patches pushed? I didn't realize.
17:04 tcohen and it applies cleanly, yes
17:04 tcohen oleonard: it is just the latest patch
17:04 oleonard tcohen: Does 9043 apply cleanly for you?
16:56 gerundio go ahead, I haven't yet
16:56 oleonard Thanks for helping diagnose the bug. I'll file a report for that if you haven't already.
16:56 gerundio oleonard, thanks for the heads up on that
16:53 reiveune bye
16:47 oleonard gerundio: If there's no reason for it, you can turn it on and turn off OPACPopupAuthorsSearch
16:47 oleonard gerundio: So it is important to find out why the OPAC xslt view is turned off
16:44 gerundio I think that they want to jump directly into the search results for each link
16:44 oleonard gerundio: I wouldn't expect someone to have turned off the xslt view in the OPAC unless they wanted a specific feature which wasn't available with xslt
16:43 gerundio most of the time I think they don't
16:43 oleonard gerundio: I hope that the people in charge of configuring the features understand what the options are
16:43 gerundio my question here originated from a complaint from our librarians who just said something like "all almost links from OPAC don't work" :)
16:42 gerundio oleonard, I just deal with the technical point of view of Koha, not the intended features
16:42 oleonard gerundio: For example: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=201776
16:41 oleonard gerundio: Or do you want the link to jump directly to a subject search?
16:41 oleonard gerundio: I confirm the problem you describe. I'm curious: Is that subject search feature what you want?
16:41 tcohen if it's ok, sign it off
16:41 oleonard Sure tcohen
16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9043 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Adding system preferences to control the visibility of the content on the Advanced Search page
16:40 tcohen oleonard: can u take a look at the last patch for bug 9043? I'm in need for it, and want another pair of eyes
16:32 * oleonard always forgets that feature isn't available when using the xslt view
16:28 gerundio and now a bootstrap modal pops up showing some options to search for
16:27 gerundio I've activated the OPACPopupAuthorsSearch setting in the OPAC preferences
16:26 gerundio the onclick is set despite that condition
16:25 gerundio the function only gets defined [% IF OPACPopupAuthorsSearch %]
16:25 gerundio I'm currently looking at the template source code
16:25 oleonard gerundio: It should be defined right on that page, I'm not sure why it's not
16:17 gerundio does anybody know where should that showSubjects JS function be defined?
16:17 gerundio there's an onclick property attached to the link: onclick="showSubjects(this, 1, 1); return false;"
16:16 gerundio if I click on the links for Subject(s) I get a JS error on the browser developer console: "Uncaught ReferenceError: showSubjects is not defined"
16:16 drojf hi #koha
16:15 jcamins That seems like a reasonable solution.
16:15 gerundio for instance, https://opac.fct.unl.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47904&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20%22conjugar%20verbos%22
16:15 gerundio I'm getting a strange behaviour on some links on OPAC
16:14 gerundio hi
16:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13265 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Still too many search cursor cookies
16:14 oleonard Bug 13265
16:14 jcamins And pushed.
16:14 khall afk, brb
16:14 jcamins Looks like a fix was submitted.
16:14 jcamins oleonard: why does it need my input?
16:13 khall at least, that's my understanding.
16:13 khall So, if you have multiple search tabs open using the system, each one needs a cookie, or your next button would give you the next record from the last search, instead of the search you are actually on.
16:12 khall oleonard: the cookies are used for the previous/next links on the record details after you search. The cookies are used to remember what the search actually was if I understand correctly. So the data is stored in a cookie, rather than being coded into the previous/next links.
16:11 oleonard jcamins: I think the issue could use your input
16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11369 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Stable , Too many search cursor cookies overflow HTTP-header size, when making multiple searches in the staff client.
16:09 wahanui rumour has it Bug 11369 is hitting us hard after upgrading to 3.14
16:09 oleonard Bug 11369
16:09 khall It put the limit to 10 cookies, which is just still too many for some sites
16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11639 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable strings in 007 builder
16:08 khall based on bug 11639
16:07 oleonard How can we be sure we're fixing the bug correctly if we don't even know what the cookies are for?
16:05 khall oleonard: I don't think so, but I'm not entirely sure. The only experience I've had with it is fixing this bug. I'm not even sure where you go to see the previous searches.
16:04 oleonard But not the search history system, correct?
16:03 khall oleonard: it's a system to store your previous searches
16:02 gaetan_B bye!
16:02 Joubu bag: Aren't they just next to your keyboard? ;)
16:01 bag I am always searching for cookies :P
16:00 oleonard What are the search cookies for? What do they do?
16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13265 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Still too many search cursor cookies
16:00 oleonard Bug 13265
15:27 Joubu tcohen: brain in the mist, but around
15:26 tcohen ?
15:26 tcohen Joubu: have a minute
15:15 huginn tcohen: talljoy was last seen in #koha 4 days, 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <talljoy> lot of paperwork, eh?
15:15 tcohen @seen talljoy
14:45 oleonard So maybe it's just never come up for us.
14:45 oleonard In my library the only time someone would have something checked out which was lost would be long overdue (lost), and normally those items would not be eligible for renewal
14:39 oleonard I would consider it a bug, but it's a long-standing behavior so I wonder what others think.
14:37 nengard so i think renewing should be the same ... right?
14:37 nengard when you check in an item that was lost it makes it not lost
14:37 nengard i don't know really if it should or shouldn't
14:35 oleonard ...and didn't in 3.14.x.
14:31 oleonard ...but it doesn't in master.
14:31 oleonard If the item is long overdue (lost) I would say it should--if you renew it it's not overdue anymore!
14:28 oleonard nengard: Do you think it should or shouldn't?
14:26 nengard hey #koha I'm wondering did renewing an item ever clear the lost status on that item? I don't think it did - but want to check before I report a bug/enh
14:16 nengard i'll suggest to the library that they use the sorter
14:16 nengard #tools_manage-marc-import td.highlight { background-color: yellow; }
14:16 nengard oleonard i had this
14:15 nengard eek - window closed - one sec will get it for you
14:14 oleonard ...and have you tried sorting on that column? That's a good way to find the matches.
14:14 oleonard What did you use before?
14:14 nengard i tried a jquery / css combo
14:14 nengard oleonard i had this css that was making matched records on the staged marc record management tool show in yellow - is there a way to do this with the new table? I can't seem to find a way
14:11 oleonard Okay so apparently the built-in offline circulation system NEVER respected the due date chosen at the time of checkout
14:08 * Joubu is going to edit the wiki....
14:08 Joubu marcelr: ok, it seems to be the same as in France
14:07 Joubu cait: good idea! :p
14:06 cait we could make people enter their equations themselves
14:06 marcelr will there be a prize for the one adding syspref no. 1000 ?
14:06 cait i am sure the list would grow :)
14:05 marcelr heh only one pref?
14:05 cait only joking this time i would set on one for now
14:05 cait *hides*
14:05 cait we canmake it a pref!
14:05 cait but if the code is all nicely centralized... :P
14:05 cait Joubu: no idea :(
14:01 marcelr so say round( round(units * amount) * tax )
14:00 oleonard Built-in offline circulation doesn't respect the date due selected in the "specify due date" field.
14:00 marcelr tax is applied at the end
13:59 Joubu marcelr: do you know how it is in Netherlands?
13:57 marcelr could be
13:54 Joubu Maybe it depends on the country...
13:54 Joubu round(quantity * ecost * tax rate) or quantity * round(ecost) * tax rate?
13:53 Joubu The question is: how should be calculated the tax value?
13:53 Joubu Is there a financial expert arround?
13:51 oleonard enqueue_koc.pl: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at offline_circ/enqueue_koc.pl line 147
13:51 oleonard enqueue_koc.pl: Use of uninitialized value $command in hash element at offline_circ/enqueue_koc.pl line 176
13:50 * oleonard would like to upload a .koc to test with but it isn't working
13:38 cait ths is a 3.12 one :(
13:38 oleonard I've only heard reports of it in 3.16.x and I was able to reproduce in master
13:38 cait but they said all checkuts have one due date... and one has another
13:37 cait they think it might be refreshing the page... but I doubt it
13:37 cait oleonard: i have a library reporting something like that
13:34 oleonard anyone else seen anything like that?
13:34 oleonard This morning I'm back to trying to figure out why some renewals are coming up with a different due date than others
13:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #168: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/168/
13:27 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:27 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #242: FIXED in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/242/
13:25 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:25 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:15 cait we are trying to find a date for our user meeting and the dates look like they might collide :(
13:15 cait paul_p: tomorrow morning owuld be great
13:14 paul_p (seen it, I only don't have impossible dates in mind. there are some/few)
13:14 paul_p can it wait for tomorrow morning ?
13:13 cait paul_p: I wrote you an email about the hackfest earlier - would be gread if you could give a quick answer
13:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #224: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/224/
13:12 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:12 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #235: FIXED in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/235/
13:09 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:09 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:09 nlegrand hey magnuse !
13:08 cait you sure get around this year :)
13:08 magnuse and hi nlegrand
13:08 magnuse hei paul_p
13:08 paul_p (meeting in ebaf/jerusalem all the week, sorry, i'm not really here)
13:07 tcohen hi paul_p
13:06 nlegrand hey paul_p :)
13:05 cait hi paul_p
13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create should be able to configure SRU server for the created instance
13:03 tcohen magnuse: can u take a look at bug 12750?
13:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on November 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
13:02 magnuse @wunder boo
13:02 tcohen hi oleonard
12:56 oleonard Hi #koha
12:52 marcelr yes it is quiet
12:51 tcohen thought i was alone here :-P
12:51 tcohen hi marcelr
12:51 marcelr hi tcohen
12:24 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 26.6°C (9:20 AM ART on November 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
12:24 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:22 tcohen morning!
12:18 * ashimema is working on the multiple issuer paradox at this precise moment ;)
12:17 ashimema it's much easir to consume the tokens than to provide them to the world..
12:17 ashimema I'm actually digging into the OAuth as provider for my application at the minute and it's not especially straight forward it seems..
12:16 ashimema it's a reasonably complete authentication (SSO) solution.. including the ability to be an 'authentication bridge' or 'Identity Provider'
12:15 ashimema tell him to take a look at simplesamlphp..
12:15 ashimema interseting..
12:12 cait so the other side of what we have with shib now
12:11 cait using Koha as the identity provider(?)
12:11 cait he was looking for a standard way to authenticate other library services
12:08 ashimema That would be what we did when we tested shib in fact... you logged in with google credentials.. they came into fiede via oauth
12:08 ashimema allot of stuff can be acheived using a shibboleth gateway (simplesamlphp for instance can convert oauth claims into shibboleth sessions ;), so by proxy we already support oauth if your happy using such a mash up )
12:07 ashimema What is he/she wanting to achieve?
12:06 ashimema though I'd be happy to test somthing if your co-worker implements it ;)
12:06 ashimema but it kinda depends on whether there much interest in it.. and whether I'll ever get funding to do it ;)
12:06 ashimema once i've got that fully working I 'might' think koha..
12:05 ashimema at the minute.. to get it working in the app i'm developing here..
12:05 cait what are your plans for it?
12:05 cait ashimema: funny, my coworker asked me about oauth today
12:03 * ashimema is just about getting his head around oauth and Bearer Tokens now.. and is tempted to add oauth to koha if and when a moment arrises..
12:02 ashimema morning tcohen
11:42 tcohen morning!
11:38 * ashimema is back
11:25 nlegrand It looks like something went wrong with your Debian upgrade, you'll need to fix it first. libnet-z3950-zoom-perl depends on perlapi-5.14.2, which is a virtual package.
11:22 simabelew yes it is. but koha is not running.
11:21 nlegrand simabelew: you mean it's a Wheezy now ?
11:19 simabelew nlegrand: it is not a new install. I have been it for some time. It was running on Debian 6 squeez. But when I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, it has upgraded it to Debian. But then my koha system which was running fine stopped working. what went wrong, i do not know.
11:13 nlegrand simabelew: by the way, if it's a new install, I suggest you to run it on wheezy (current stable) instead of squeeze (old stable)
11:13 nlegrand simabelew: so it's an APT problem :) you may have some hints on the web (eg http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/121149/fix-held-broken-packages-on-debian or http://askubuntu.com/questions/223237/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages)
11:08 simabelew that is the error when I try to install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl
11:07 simabelew The following packages have unmet dependencies: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl: Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 Unable to correct problems, you have held proken packages
10:56 nlegrand :) well, some of them aren't in debian
10:55 nlegrand I think last time I wanted to install all perl deps with a dev install I did something silly like this : sudo apt-get install $(./koha_perl_deps.pl -a|perl -ne 'if (/(?:No|Yes)/) { s/(^.*?)\s.*/lib\L$1-perl/; s/::/-/g; print }' |tr '\n' ' ')
10:48 nlegrand sudo apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl
10:48 simabelew please help
10:47 simabelew That is the error message.
10:47 simabelew Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 102. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 102. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 31. BEGIN fai
10:28 drojf magnuse is right of course, sorry
10:26 magnuse lawalebalty: you'll have to do "sudo a2dissite 000-default" then
10:26 lawalebalty drojf: Thanks
10:20 drojf lawalebalty: it's for ubuntu too, there are some extra notes about 14.04 on the bottom of the page
10:20 lawalebalty drojf: I have installed ubuntu 14.04
10:18 drojf lawalebalty: there are instructions in the official wiki. if you are using debian have a look here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
10:14 lawalebalty magnuse: I got this when I ran the command you sent ; 000-default.conf library.conf
10:13 lawalebalty someone sent document to me which I followed....I can forward it to you if you drop me ur email or you can just hi me: lawalebalty@gmail.com
10:13 magnuse do "ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/" to check
10:12 magnuse it might be called something like 000-default
10:12 drojf lawalebalty: what instructions did you use to install koha?
10:10 lawalebalty drojf: ERROR: Site default does not exist!
10:08 huginn lawalebalty: downloading the Perl source
10:08 lawalebalty @drojf, okay..I will run the command now...Thanks
10:08 drojf lawalebalty: you have to disable this default website. you could try "sudo a2dissite default"
10:07 huginn lawalebalty: I suck
10:07 lawalebalty @drojf, yes i got a page that says it works
10:05 drojf (do you get a page that says "it works"?)
10:05 drojf lawalebalty: have you disabled the default apache website?
10:04 cait no sorry, i am at work
10:02 lawalebalty Can you please help me out?.. we can do team viewer please
10:00 cait lawalebalty: i am not sure, it hink something is wrong with your apache configuration
09:57 lawalebalty hi cait
09:53 drojf hi cait :)
09:53 cait hi drojf
09:53 drojf hi #koha
09:52 lawalebalty this is what came up when I tried localhost:8080 Index of / [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description [DIR] html/ 2014-11-17 10:42 - Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8080
09:51 lawalebalty okie
09:45 cait try 8080 for a start
09:45 cait you need to access the staff interface to run the web installer - 80 would usually be the end user catalog (OPAC)
09:44 lawalebalty when I did localhost:80 it was apache2 index page that was coimng up
09:44 lawalebalty Please, I need help on koha ....I have installed it but the web installation is not coming up
09:36 nlegrand hey cait o/ :)
09:34 cait hi nlegrand :)
09:33 cait i haven't heard of probles after updating so far
09:33 cait simabelew: we'd need an error message or something to help you
09:14 nlegrand hiya #koha
09:14 simabelew I was running koha on debian linux but When I upgrade debian 6 squeeze to debian 7 wheezy, it has also upgraded mysql 5.1 to mysql 5.5. After that I was not able to access my database. The configuration has been changed I think but I dodnot where the change has taken place. I cannot my library system now. any help please?
09:02 magnuse hiya ashimema
09:01 cait help...
09:01 cait simabelew: just ask your question - people will answer if they can haelp
09:00 cait moring ashimema
08:59 ashimema morning #koha
08:58 simabelew any one for help?
08:57 simabelew I have come seeking assistance on running koha
08:26 cait :)
08:26 cait morning marcelr
08:26 cait morning mar
08:24 marcelr hi cait Oak gaetan_B and akafred
08:24 akafred good morning, cait :-)
08:23 cait morning akafred
08:20 cait hi Oak, gaetan_B and wahanui :)
08:20 wahanui hey, gaetan_B
08:20 gaetan_B hello
08:12 Oak Bonjour monsieur alex_a
07:56 marcelr hi #koha
07:54 wahanui privet, alex_a
07:54 alex_a Bonjour
07:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:44 magnuse @wunder boo
07:44 cait bbiab
07:43 magnuse eythian too: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL16:_Hashrefs_should_be_used_as_arguments :-)
07:42 reiveune hello
07:42 cait i was thinking about that one earlier
07:42 cait thx magnuse :)
07:38 magnuse dcook: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL16:_Hashrefs_should_be_used_as_arguments
07:36 * magnuse waves
07:17 Oak Bonjour monsieur paul_p
07:04 Oak no worries.
07:04 cait heh
07:03 Oak cait? cait who?
07:03 Oak okay. won't tell anyone. i did not see you.
07:03 cait hi Oak - sorry, not really here :)
06:50 Oak hello cait !
06:49 Oak magnuse
06:49 Oak kia ora #koha
05:27 dcook Coolbeans
05:27 dcook Hmm, I thought I'd noticed a fair number of hashrefs in Koha
05:26 eythian personally, I like hash, but Class::Accessor likes hashref, so I tend to go with that for consistency.
05:26 dcook It seems like many methods in the wild accept hashes
05:26 dcook Which is more preferable? Using a hash or a hashref for method parameters?
05:26 dcook Actually, one more question, eythian :)
05:23 dcook Yeah, I think this makes more sense
05:14 dcook Cool :)
05:14 eythian yeah, that sounds sensible
05:13 dcook Or logged from the cronjob
05:12 dcook And then informative info should be done in the cronjob
05:12 eythian so it has appropriate semantic info, or can make summaries, or whatever
05:12 dcook I figure using warnings in the sub is useful for debugging
05:12 dcook Hmm, that's what I was starting to think as well
05:12 eythian if this is output to be informative about someting happening for a regular human, then probably at a higher level
05:12 eythian if you're outputting debug stuff, then anywhere is fine
05:11 eythian it depends
05:11 eythian mostly, yeah
05:11 dcook I would think that you'd want to avoid printing stuff in the module as it should just be behind the scenes logic, yeah?
05:11 eythian on the surface, either seems fine
05:10 dcook Hmm, I suppose neither way seems particularly perfect
05:08 eythian oh. Up to you.
05:08 dcook Well, there are going to be many small subs. It's just whether they're called by a master sub in the module or individually in the cronjob
05:08 eythian if you have a logging framework thing, then you can say "Loglevel(DEBUG)" and everything will get logged, etc.
05:08 eythian many small subs isn't the end of the world
05:08 dcook In this case, logging it would be most useful
05:07 dcook Well, maybe..
05:07 dcook I'm not sure I follow
05:07 dcook The downside of that is that I have about 5 different subs in my cronjob when I'm only doing 1 thing
05:07 eythian yeah, so two ways of doing that. Passing "hey, print stuff" into the module (which I think is what I suggested) and the normal way, which I apparently forgot. Which is to use a logging system.
05:06 dcook But I'm thinking it might make more sense to make a sub like "gather_records", use that in the cronjob, print the number if the verbose flag is active, and then act on the data returned by "gather_records" using another object method
05:06 dcook If I want to print that out (when my verbose flag is on), I'm currently printing that in the module
05:06 dcook So I select X number of records
05:05 dcook You suggested moving the DBIC stuff into the module, so I did that
05:05 dcook I'm happy to be more specific :)
05:05 eythian these are very vague questions, you know.
05:04 dcook and by what
05:04 dcook Well, I was thinking more along the lines of what gets printed where
05:04 eythian papa: you have dealt with this recently, you may have more ideas
05:04 eythian *set
05:04 eythian maybe look into something that lets you see loglevels
05:04 eythian hmm
05:03 dcook Which seems sub-optimal :/
05:03 dcook I added that as it seemed like a good idea, but to get it to do anything I have to pass it to my module
05:03 dcook You suggested using a verbose flag to turn on output for the cronjob
05:03 dcook Boo rain
05:03 eythian was supposed to be at training, but the rain got worse and I didn't feel up to biking
05:03 dcook Question for you regarding verbosity, cronjobs, and modules
05:02 eythian yarp
05:02 dcook eythian: still around?
03:12 dcook I suppose that's one option. Not an option on this server, but oh well. Doesn't really matter where it is. I shall add a new test to it anyway.
03:11 tcohen to test if it depends on the db, of course
03:05 dcook O_o
03:05 tcohen turn your mysql off
03:04 tcohen it doesn't
03:04 dcook Nope, I don't see it needing context
03:04 dcook If it does, it must be buried deep in its dependencies..
03:03 tcohen *probably
03:03 tcohen because it needs context
03:03 dcook When it doesn't look like it touches the DB at all
03:03 dcook Also wondering why XSLT_Handler.t is in t/db_dependent...
03:01 dcook :)
03:00 dcook Yes, that.
03:00 jcamins dcook: if you had to think about it, the answer to my question is "yes, you're the only one who hears the word 'yesterday' and thinks of Abbot and Costello."
02:58 tcohen t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t fails "yesterday" =D
02:58 tcohen damn
02:58 dcook I think I recall that joke now that I think about it
02:58 jcamins ... this is one of those jokes that isn't funny to anyone but me, isn't it?
02:57 jcamins tcohen: oh, that pitcher!
02:57 tcohen t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t fails "yesterday" =D
02:56 tcohen damn
02:52 rangi and move on
02:52 rangi at which point i file it in the "this is a really bad idea" basket
02:51 rangi to cope with the fact that you have mixed AARC2 and RDA records
02:51 dcook cascading catalogue rules?
02:50 rangi we need cascading catalogue rules
02:48 rangi which is going to make doing anything RDA specific kinda hard
02:48 jcamins I think there can be no question about RDA being by the cataloguers for the cataloguers... except with less actual cataloguer involvement.
02:48 rangi but the stumbling block is most people are going to have a mixed catalogue .. for the foreseeable future
02:47 rangi if i could think of something to do with it, id probably have a crack :)
02:47 rangi and no one else cares
02:47 rangi but so far i think RDA is by the cataloguers and for the cataloguers
02:47 rangi its a reasonable theory
02:46 jcamins rangi: neither do I, but a friend thought that if anyone was doing something worthwhile with RDA, they'd probably be using Koha.
02:46 rangi ie not in any way that the users would notice
02:46 rangi i dont know anyone who is using RDA in that way at all tbh
02:46 rangi nope
02:45 jcamins rangi: do you know of anyone who is using RDA with Koha in a way that makes it seem like something different from using AACR2 with Koha?
02:44 tcohen I think they pretended to make it a mocked one
02:43 rangi should still be in the db_dependent tho, just to make it clear it depends on a db
02:43 * tcohen nods
02:43 rangi cos its a directory
02:43 rangi that wont
02:43 tcohen t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t seems to depend on the db
02:42 rangi or prove without -r
02:42 rangi its what is run when you do make test
02:41 rangi just not in directories under that
02:41 eythian I think everything in t/ runs
02:41 rangi everything in t/ is run
02:41 tcohen eythian: you don't run t/Circulation on building, right?
02:36 eythian and gave up
02:36 eythian ah, gmail was retrying
02:36 eythian their system is screwed in multiple ways I think
02:35 eythian oh, it's a bounce from something I sent on the 13th
02:35 rangi no mailed now
02:35 rangi they are
02:35 eythian that's the X-Original-To
02:35 eythian sunita.pujar@dsims.org.in
02:35 rangi probably via gmane or something
02:35 eythian odd
02:35 rangi they arent even on the list
02:34 rangi hmm nope
02:34 eythian well, I've just had two bounces so far, so maybe it just started
02:34 eythian ah yeah
02:34 rangi who consistently sends away from my desk mails
02:34 rangi and that georgew
02:34 rangi interesting i dont get that, but ill nomail it
02:33 eythian rangi: can kamal.bhagtani99@gmail.com be set to nomail? I get a bounce from 2003 to every message I send to the koha list.
02:28 tcohen night!
02:28 larryb 'night all
02:28 larryb well, it's almost dinner time here, and my ubuntu install finished, so thanks again.
02:25 larryb well, as you say, squeeze is going to be EOL soon, so it's probably time we found out if there are issues with wheezy in production
02:23 eythian I haven't done it on real production, but the systems I have done it on haven't had any issues
02:22 larryb well, I just finished upgrading all our sites to 3.16 . . . sure, why not
02:22 eythian Probably now if you're not doing anything else
02:21 larryb yeah, that's kind what I'm thinking about, when to start moving to wheezy.
02:20 eythian it's just squeeze is going EOL, jessie is nearly out, I don't want to maintain across three debian releases.
02:20 larryb cool. I like debian
02:20 eythian oh, no.
02:20 tcohen just our institution
02:20 tcohen nah
02:19 larryb so that is that the way we're going, from debian to ubuntu?
02:18 eythian larryb: I'd like to get builds for squeeze removed some time soonish (not immediately though.) I know that the ES stuff won't work on it.
02:18 tcohen they seem to share lots of libs
02:17 tcohen larryb: we've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for a while and are now moving to 14.04
02:17 larryb I haven't seen a date yet, but I'm expecting squeeze repos to go away in 2015
02:16 eythian no issues
02:15 eythian however I am forming a plan to upgrade some of our stuff over xmas/ny
02:15 larryb how's that doing for you? any issues?
02:15 eythian our newer stuff is tending to be 14.04
02:15 eythian I think it's just our demo stuff
02:15 eythian we have a site on it
02:14 larryb Anybody running koha on wheezy yet?
02:11 larryb thank you gents
02:11 larryb bingo!
02:10 larryb HA!
02:09 eythian that's when you last needed them :)
02:09 eythian lenny, that was it
02:09 larryb well, when I started with Koha, we were on Lenny. Guess old habits die hard.
02:09 eythian same thing, the current instructions work
02:08 eythian I think you needed them in whatever came before squeeze, but that was a while ago now
02:08 larryb what about on debian wheezy? same thing?
02:08 eythian you should use the current instructions, they worked for me a couple of days ago
02:08 eythian nope
02:08 eythian at the least, it doesn't have 5.10
02:08 larryb guess I'm still operating on three-year old instructions. I thought we still needed the indexdata repos.
02:08 eythian (I think)
02:07 eythian however, Ubuntu doesn't do the whole perlapi stuff
02:07 eythian probably a newer version
02:07 larryb but I'm guessing here it's trying to pull from the indexdata one?
02:06 eythian libnet-z3950-zoom-perl is in Ubuntu's repo
02:06 rangi yes
02:06 eythian (because it's not necessary)
02:06 larryb leave out indexdata?
02:06 eythian that's not in the instructions :)
02:06 rangi yeah
02:06 eythian don't do that
02:06 eythian yeah
02:06 larryb I added the repos for indexdata and k-c
02:06 rangi do you have the indexdata repos or something
02:06 larryb yep
02:06 wahanui somebody said repo was sitting waiting :)
02:06 eythian what repo?
02:06 eythian is this a fresh install?
02:05 larryb it does. it did
02:05 eythian that shouldn't happen
02:05 larryb anyone found a good way around that?
02:05 larryb libnet-z3950-zoom-perl : Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 but it is not installable
02:05 larryb I'm testing out koha package install on 14.04, and it won't install. It basically boils down this dependency issue:
02:03 larryb anyone want to help me with an ubunutu problem?
02:03 dcook hey larry
02:00 larryb hello #koha
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12992 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Fund planning does not display actual values
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13195 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Regression: Circulation checkouts table no longer shows item type description
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13236 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Regression: Table of checkouts no longer preselects overdue items for rewewal
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13168 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , "Today's checkouts" sort improperly because issuedate lacks seconds.
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13254 major, P3, ---, rkopaczka, Pushed to Master , Delete record don't wait for confirmation
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10878 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Display856uAsImage works in Results pages, can remove caveat text from system preference.
01:40 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12992: Fund planning should display actual values
01:40 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13195 - Regression: Circulation checkouts table no longer shows item type description
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13258 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Clicking the "show checkouts" button should return focus to the barcode field
01:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13236 - Regression: Table of checkouts no longer preselects overdue items for rewewal
01:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13196 - "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions
01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12778 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Regression: Item lost status doesn't show in list of checkouts
01:40 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 13168 - "Today's checkouts" sort improperly because issuedate lacks seconds.
01:40 jenkins_koha * Rafal Kopaczka: Bug 13254 - Delete record don't wait for confirmation
01:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 10878: Correct Display856uAsImage pref description
01:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13258 - Clicking the "show checkouts" button should return focus to the barcode field
01:40 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12778 - Regression: Item lost status doesn't show in list of checkouts
01:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #234: NOW UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/234/
00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13122 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Patron holds table no longer display date item went in transit
00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13256 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Pushed to Master , Typographical error on item search template
00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13233 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron search by birth date tooltip broken
00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13227 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Display856uAsImage displays images in OPAC in original size
00:57 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13122 - Patron holds table no longer display date item went in transit
00:57 jenkins_koha * Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos: Bug 13256 - Typographical error on item search template
00:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13233 - Patron search by birth date tooltip broken
00:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 13227: Display856uAsImage displays images in OPAC in original size
00:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #233: UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/233/
00:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12992: Fund planning should display actual values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b584f8f71ed2206856b0b1bf42d2972f78fcc4a> / Bug 13195 - Regression: Circulation checkouts table no longer shows item type description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13fda8378337388e0bf353eacfb26ac3d3511dc8>
00:33 wizzyrea imo
00:33 wizzyrea yep
00:33 tcohen wizzyrea: core functionalities might better belong to ADmin, right?
00:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13236 - Regression: Table of checkouts no longer preselects overdue items for... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48db11d68b7f83588903d7c9621a144ca3be8d3a> / Bug 13196 - "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdc60b0d1064d279053d8953c69c5cadb6b07266> / Bug 13168 - "Today's checkouts" sort i
00:31 wahanui what's up, BobB
00:31 BobB hi
00:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13254 - Delete record don't wait for confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=866017e1523ec430d4ec37fc92a02edb86c106e5> / Bug 10878: Correct Display856uAsImage pref description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=474735017379277b5f613b43686049ff955e152f> / Bug 13258 - Clicking the "show checkouts" button should return focus to the barcode... <http://git.k
00:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13122 - Patron holds table no longer display date item went in transit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3d1e527e7cf23c20db8ed35c8de678d8f8a9d92> / Bug 13256 - Typographical error on item search template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=433d9d3d9f6ef429f95f39dbe5811a04fa441f82> / Bug 13233 - Patron search by birth date tooltip broken <http://git.koha-commun
00:00 * dcook goes back to his XSLTs
00:00 dcook I think another thing to keep in mind with that one is the manual and training I suppose.