Time  Nick       Message
08:37 drojf      good morning #koha
09:06 cait       good morning drojf
09:09 drojf      hi cait :)
09:10 cait       are you studying?
09:10 drojf      not yet
09:10 drojf      getting ready to wake up :D
09:12 cait       tsk :)
09:12 drojf      not even the sun is awake. why do i have to get up? :D
09:13 drojf      @wunder berlin, germany
09:13 huginn     drojf: The current temperature in Spreefeld, Berlin, Germany is 7.3°C (10:13 AM CET on November 16, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
09:13 cait       not sure the sun will get out of bed today
09:13 cait       @wunder Konstanz
09:13 huginn     cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 16, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
09:13 drojf      i "win"
09:15 cait       :P
09:15 cait       if you are not studying, I have some bugs that need sign-off...
09:17 drojf      heh. nice try :P the bug businss will have to wait until it's over
09:20 cait       hmpf
09:20 cait       :)
09:20 cait       if you change your mind...
09:20 cait       you know where you can find me ;)
09:21 drojf      :)
09:21 cait       updating the german web installer files is on my list too... meh.
09:38 cait       @later tell khall can you take a lok if 11305 can be closed?
09:38 huginn     cait: The operation succeeded.
10:05 * magnuse  waves
11:12 * cait     waves at magnuse
11:44 * magnuse  waves back
11:56 * magnuse  wanders off
14:43 tcohen     morning
15:39 * cait     waves to whoeever is around
15:54 tcohen     hi cait
15:55 * cait     waits for the muffins to cool down :)
15:55 tcohen     YAY!
15:55 tcohen     i'm leaving for  a family lunch
15:58 tcohen     bye caut
15:58 tcohen     cait
16:02 cait       bye tcohen :)
18:59 rangi      morning
19:04 cait       morning rangi
19:08 rangi      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Critical_circ_bugs  <-- theres 4 bugs there the no patch and needs sign off ones that need work
19:09 * cait     will qa everything thrown at her
19:17 rangi      can anyone get to http://bywatersolutions.com/ ?
19:18 cait       trying
19:18 cait       hm onpe
19:18 cait       nope
19:23 ibeardslee rangi: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bywatersolutions.com
19:28 cait       mveron++ # translating!
19:37 rangi      and its back up now it seems
19:42 mveron     Hi #koha
19:43 cait       hi mveron - you just missed your karma :)
19:43 cait       thx for translating!
19:44 mveron     Welcome...
19:44 wahanui    Welcome to zombo.com
19:46 mveron     cait: Do we already have string freeze? Because of Bug 13261
19:46 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13261 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Better check in message for patrons with indefinite restriction
19:47 cait       mveron: nope, 20th :)
19:48 mveron     First patch is signed-off, second patch changes the wording following Owen's recommendation
19:49 mveron     cait: How was dinner yesterday? Wit your new oven...
19:50 cait       aah, changed plans - cold dinner yesterday, but punkin-walnut-orange muffins today
19:50 cait       i think i qa'd the first one already
19:50 mveron     lecker...
19:50 cait       waiting for the second to hit the qa queue :)
19:50 cait       mveron: it was a made up recipe, but i am not too unhappy with the outcome :)
19:52 mveron     Great. Did I ever recommend Pizoccheri? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzoccheri
19:52 mveron     We did Pizocchery yesterday..
19:53 cait       looks interesting :)
19:53 * mveron   has to repair VM after each update of Windows 8.1
19:53 cait       bad windows 8 - no cookie for you
19:53 mveron     :-)
20:12 burdsjm    Hi all :)
20:12 burdsjm    Nothing like working on a Sunday
20:12 wizzyrea   hallo
20:13 rangi      luckily its already monday
20:13 burdsjm    Europe?
20:13 wahanui    it has been said that Europe is tired, next shift should take over
20:13 rangi      nope, otherside of the world
20:15 burdsjm    Nice I lived in Japan for a year. Loved the weather.
20:16 burdsjm    We just got 3 inches of snow today
20:16 burdsjm    I need to move south
20:17 cait       europe still has sunday for a bit )
20:47 rangi      ibeardslee: http://www.itheavyhitters.co.nz/about
21:00 ibeardslee that could be (a) slightly unfair and (b) liable to get someone kicked
21:00 rangi      :)
21:01 ibeardslee Andrew C knows how hard it is for me to spar hands only .. the knees and legs just want to happen
21:03 wizzyrea   I'm deeply conflicted about such a thing.
21:04 rangi      [off] if it was koha vs liblime id do it
21:05 wizzyrea   Zing!
21:07 ibeardslee It's all very good for some.  But I've been in the ring twice before and trained someone to get into the ring .. it's not something I'm a great fan of anymore.  People deliberately going in with an attitude to hurt someone else.
21:08 ibeardslee and on a more positive note .. https://edwinbruce.wordpress.com/2014/11/15/nz-open-source-awards/
21:08 cait       ah, congratulations ibeardslee :)
21:09 rangi      [off] actually id just settle for them paying hte costs that were awarded against them
21:09 rangi      oh that is a nice write up
21:09 cait       hi tcohen
21:09 rangi      hi tcohen
21:11 wizzyrea   on the one hand, I'm sure it can be fun. On the other, I think there's enough anger and misanthropy in IT as it is.
21:11 wizzyrea   not sure we need more of that.
21:12 ibeardslee cait: Thanks .. and the wonderful people in here can help take some credit for it as well.
21:13 wizzyrea   we just do as we're told ;0
21:13 wizzyrea   ;)
21:14 ibeardslee yes, but in a nice and helpful way
21:14 tcohen     hi
21:15 rangi      speaking of which, i should catch up with you about next years academy at some point
21:16 ibeardslee yeap .. currently playing with getting jitsi meet to screen share to get a step closer to being able to do the academy with remote branches.  I'll be wandering and nagging^w discussing with people tomorrow
21:17 rangi      sweet
21:17 ibeardslee hopefully the discussion doesn't involve anyone getting tickets to LCA ;)
21:18 rangi      im not planning on going, unless there is a way for me to just go up for the one day community leader summit
21:26 eythian    hi
21:28 eythian    curious, huginn owes me a message
21:29 eythian    oh, tcohen did it wrong :)
21:29 tcohen     ah?
21:29 wahanui    i guess ah is that what goes after the last
21:59 dcook      Hmm, I have a timestamp but now to figure out the day...
21:59 dcook      @seen ribasushi
21:59 huginn     dcook: ribasushi was last seen in #koha 2 days, 13 hours, 59 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <ribasushi> dcook: can you tell me where in the docs does it say that chaining will work the way you expected? can't seem to find it...
21:59 dcook      Hmm, should've sent a line number..
22:00 dcook      Hmm
22:09 mveron     @wunder Allschwil
22:09 huginn     mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 10.0°C (11:09 PM CET on November 16, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
22:09 pastebot   "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "DBIC docs for updating rows" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/288
22:09 dcook      ribasushi: ^
22:15 * mveron   says good night / daytime to everybody
22:15 mveron     quit
22:15 mveron     :-)
22:31 tcohen     hi dcook
22:31 dcook      yo tcohen
22:31 tcohen     eythian: did u notice I updated the control file?
22:31 tcohen     dcook: did u buy the stroller?
22:31 dcook      Nopes, not yet.
22:32 dcook      Still a ways off from needing it, so I figure we can look for a while
22:32 tcohen     heh
22:32 tcohen     of course :-D
22:32 dcook      Really want to try some out though
22:32 tcohen     good idea!
22:33 eythian    tcohen: I haven't noticed yet, bit I'm sure I would have :)
22:33 tcohen     eythian: =D
22:33 tcohen     have you tried any aegentinian beer?
22:34 eythian    tcohen: you can't put any characters after a name in @later or it thinks it's part of the name, and I won't get anything to "eythian,"
22:34 eythian    I don't think I have
22:34 tcohen     eythian: maybe a typo?
22:34 dcook      Interesting... XSLT_hander.t passes despite spitting out lots of errors..
22:35 eythian    I think if your test case causes warnings, something needs to be fixed.
22:35 dcook      I'm thinking so too
22:35 dcook      I just tried "prove XSLT_handler.t" in master
22:36 dcook      Oh wait...
22:36 dcook      I might be lying
22:36 dcook      I have modified XSLT_handler.pm so maybe I did it :p
22:36 dcook      Don't think so though..
22:36 rangi      hmm earthquake
22:36 wahanui    it has been said that earthquake is on the news
22:36 tcohen     dcook: it tests for failure
22:37 tcohen     should also encapsulate the warnings and test for them
22:37 dcook      tcohen: Yeah, I figure that's why it's passing the tests, but it seems weird to ahve warnings
22:37 dcook      Mmm, except XSLT_handler.pm has print_warnings on by default
22:37 * tcohen   has been cleaning warnings from tests every spare minute he has had
22:38 dcook      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11826#c23
22:38 dcook      :/
22:38 huginn     04Bug 11826: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving code for XSLT handling
22:39 dcook      Oh well
22:40 dcook      I think it should be easy enough to add parameters to the XSLT handler
22:40 dcook      Maybe not so easy to add functions..
22:49 dcook      Oh, dcook has ideas...
22:49 tcohen     dcook: we want the code, can trade cookies if you wish
22:49 dcook      hehe
22:49 dcook      I'm really enjoying these rosemary crackers and hummous at the moment :D
22:49 dcook      I'm just debating how to add functions
22:50 dcook      Because the current way of caching the XSLTs doesn't really let you cache the registration of functions as well
22:50 dcook      So it might make sense to just register functions on a transform by transform basis I guess
22:50 dcook      And to just see if the XML_LIBXSLT_FUNCTIONS property has been set before registering them
22:50 dcook      To avoid repetition
22:50 dcook      That probably wasn't clear at all...
22:51 * tcohen   would love to have an XSLT registry, on the DB
22:51 dcook      That could also be neat :)
22:51 dcook      For the OAI importer, I want to pass in the OAI identifier as a parameter, and I do that by using XML::LibXSLT parameters
22:52 dcook      Locally, I also use a "register_function" to pass some Perl subs to the XSLT, which is quite handy
22:53 dcook      Although I guess the functions for local things as well...
22:54 dcook      Actually, I'm curious about registering a function for looking up system preferences
22:54 dcook      Instead of passing in the the system preference to the XSLT as XML
22:56 dcook      Oh... I'm an idiot...
22:56 dcook      Oh, maybe not..
22:56 dcook      register_function is a global option
22:58 dcook      So it's actually not even necessary to add it to XSLT_handler.pm
22:58 dcook      Although we could if we wanted to add certain functions for every transform
22:58 dcook      (like a systempreference lookup function)
22:59 * dcook    loves open source
23:10 dcook      Ah, super.
23:18 cait       heh :)
23:18 cait       goo dnight dcook :)
23:19 dcook      @later tell cait sweet dreams :)
23:19 huginn     dcook: The operation succeeded.
23:49 wizzyrea   I hate that overdue notice/status triggers are under tools.
23:49 wizzyrea   just putting that out there.
23:49 wizzyrea   totally feels like an admin thing to me.
23:49 wizzyrea   same with notice configuration.
23:59 wizzyrea   I'd do a patch to fix that but there might be mutiny.
23:59 dcook      Mutiny?
23:59 dcook      I'm with you about the tools/admin thing. Drives me nuts.
23:59 dcook      Well, I stopped caring a while ago. But it theoretically drives me nuts :p