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23:37 tcohen_ bye tcohen
23:21 tcohen :-D
23:21 tcohen https://ukutabs.com/t/the-cure/friday-im-in-love/
23:16 mtj yes, understood
23:16 tcohen use a package to provide the needed api
23:16 mtj ..i thought as much, just thought i would confirm with you
23:16 tcohen and you shouldn't use it on .pl scripts
23:15 mtj hiya tcohen, thanks :0)
23:05 tcohen but please use dbic
23:05 tcohen we have an undecided situation on "how to use it"
23:04 tcohen dbic mandatory
23:04 mtj tcohen, any idea on dbix policy? ^
23:02 mtj is dbix mandatory now?
23:00 mtj ..i was about to submit the carousel thingy for the opac, and wanted to ask about dbix
22:56 mtj rangi, are you about still?
22:56 mtj hey #koha
22:51 magnuse time to catch some sleep - have fun #koha!
22:50 magnuse and maybe 2015 will be the year of semantic Koha? :-)
22:47 magnuse s/net/next/
22:47 magnuse net goal: 1000
22:47 rangi nice :)
22:47 magnuse the national patron db stuff should bring me up to 100 i think :-)
22:46 magnuse ooh, just over 5 years since i got my first patch in koha
22:46 magnuse kia ora papa
22:45 magnuse hope to get around to it in 2015
22:45 magnuse if i had more time...
22:45 magnuse i should have tested the patch that splits out the marcflavours into separate files
22:43 magnuse yeah bgkriegel++
22:43 tcohen bgkriegel++
22:38 rangi yep :)
22:38 magnuse hooray for having only 1 opac file to translate, and for the help files being in a separate .po!
22:36 magnuse translations... ouch!
22:35 * mveron waves sleepily back... after doing a lot of translations... and says god night / daytime to everybody...
22:34 * magnuse waves sleepily
22:32 rangi heya tcohen
22:30 wnickc trying to make a readable permissions report
22:30 wnickc thanks rangi, not a big deal, just required a'DISTINCT'
22:30 tcohen hi rangi
22:29 rangi so perhaps an old bug, thats since been fixed but left some cruft
22:28 wnickc rangi:yup, if I remove the permissionit all clears and I get one value upon replacing it
22:26 MWCJPP Thanks @rangi
22:26 rangi wnickc: i cant think of a legit reason, sounds like a bug, if you change permissions does it fix it?
22:24 rangi liblime decided to use the 4.xx numbers .. when they forked, just to confuse people, seems like it worked :)
22:23 rangi the lastest release is 3.16.4 ... 3.18.0 is being released on november 22nd
22:22 rangi you dont have koha then, you have the liblime fork, that was originally based on koha 6 years ago
22:20 MWCJPP Am I on the wrong website?
22:20 MWCJPP But the about us portion of our install tells me that my version is 4.09.
22:19 MWCJPP When I go to http://koha-community.org I'm seeing an option to download version 3.16
22:18 MWCJPP I have a question about Koha Versions.
22:18 wahanui it has been said that everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
22:18 MWCJPP Hey Everyone.
22:14 tcohen hi
22:10 wnickc why would a user have multiple values for a single code in the user_permissions table
22:07 wnickc anyone around for a permissions question?
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add LocalHoldsPriority, LocalHoldsPriorityPatronControl, LocalHoldsPriorityItemControl
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add link to items_batchmod_restricted
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add items_batchmod_restricted permission
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add link to edit_items_restricted permission
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add delete_all_items permission
20:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #584: SUCCESS in 1 min 59 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/584/
20:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #584 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add edit_items_restricted permission
20:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add SubfieldsToAllowForRestricted prefs
20:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #583: SUCCESS in 2 min 52 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/583/
20:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #583 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:17 magnuse if it is on the interwebs it's gotta be true...
20:16 druthb I've long though so; this is just proof.
20:16 druthb I know, right?
20:16 magnuse gotta be true, then
20:16 wahanui druthb is more trouble than she's worth.
20:16 magnuse druthb?
20:15 wahanui druthb is more trouble than she's worth.
20:15 magnuse druthb!
20:15 druthb thought so.
20:15 wahanui well, druthb is more trouble than she's worth.
20:15 druthb wahanui: druthb?
20:15 druthb hm.
20:14 druthb :)
20:13 magnuse druthb!
20:13 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
20:13 druthb magnuse!
20:13 * magnuse waves
20:00 cait have a nice weekend oleonard :)
19:59 cait too fast!
19:59 oleonard And with that, it's time for the weekend. Maybe my computer just needs a rest.
19:59 oleonard ...in 3.14.x, 3.16.x, and master.
19:55 cait weird
19:55 oleonard Checking out from Branch A, items from Branch A, B, C, and D get one due date. Items from branch E get another.
19:53 oleonard I mean I have one rule set up for all libraries, all item types.
19:53 oleonard Sorry I don't mean completely blank...
19:53 cait alll rules are empty empty?
19:53 cait i thought we had a hardcoded one
19:52 cait oh
19:52 oleonard Testing with blank circ rules
19:52 cait hm
19:52 oleonard Why would the checkout of an item from one library have a different due date than a checkout of an item from another?
19:39 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #165: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/165/
19:39 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:39 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
19:38 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #239: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/239/
19:38 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:38 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:31 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 9.5°C (8:31 PM CET on November 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
19:31 mveron @wunder allschwil
19:31 mveron Hi #koha
19:28 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #221: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/221/
19:28 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:28 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
19:27 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #232: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/232/
19:27 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:27 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:20 * oleonard sets fire to his VM and walks away
19:20 oleonard Also: Renewal due dates are broken
19:19 oleonard Can anyone else confirm?
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12986 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Upgrade the DataTables jQuery plugin to the latest version
19:18 oleonard Crap. git blames Bug 12986 :(
19:15 oleonard I've got a completely blank page except for the word "Sundays"
19:14 oleonard tools/holidays.pl is completely broken for me in master
18:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=348bca3dbb200627b3f3fd3ae9aae2d012892ecd>
18:01 tcohen oleonard: maybe we cannot compute the answer to that question
17:45 oleonard Wow processing offline circs is REALLY slow in my test system. I wonder if that is new...
17:39 tcohen :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WHN-pAFCs
17:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10473 normal, P3, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Prompt for confirmation if more than 99 items are being added
17:12 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10473: (RM followup) small wording change
17:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10473: Get rif of the placeholder
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
17:11 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10473 - Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Fix field_numbers
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13064 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Indexing problem with ICU on control characters
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Fix return for ModifyRecordWithTemplate
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Reflect the changes to the interface
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: UT to show up the issue
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Change the field number logic
17:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 13064 - Indexing problem with ICU on control characters
17:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #231: NOW UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/231/
17:10 gcb Looks like the same thing may have happened back in 3.6. Lost status can't be changed from the edit item screen, only from the "Items" button on the left of the bibl record. Sounds like that behaviour was changed back in 3.8...and now it's changed again!
17:02 gcb That's OK...I'm happy to get any ideas! :-)
17:01 oleonard Sorry gcb maybe I've got it wrong.
17:00 gcb It seems to be configured exactly the same as subfield 0 Withdrawn status which does show up in the item edit window.
16:56 oleonard Administration -> MARC bibliographic framework -> MARC structure -> 952 -> Subfields -> 1 -> Advanced constraints
16:55 gcb Hmmm... 952$1 is included in the marc framework for books. I am using the defaults loaded with the package.
16:52 oleonard gcb: It has to do with your MARC framework
16:52 gcb These aren't new items and the option to mark it lost is not available either. Could this be something to do with the "SubfieldsToUseWhenPrefill" pref?
16:49 oleonard Marking something lost through the item editor doesn't consistently trigger the same actions which happen if you mark it lost through catalogue/moredetail.pl (adding fines, removing from patron's account)
16:48 oleonard "New installations will not see this status in the editor, unless they manually activate it."
16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, P3, ---, srdjan, CLOSED FIXED, marking item lost diff in two places
16:48 oleonard Bug 5533
16:45 gcb could it be a system pref I'm missing?
16:44 oleonard gcb: That sounds familiar but I don't see it in my test system
16:35 gcb Running 3.16.04 Debian package on squeeze. When editing an item, "Lost Status" (1) has disappeared from that screen. It now goes from "0 - Withdrawn status" to "2 - Source of classification or..." Was this a purposeful change or bug?
16:35 marcelr bye all
16:35 gcb Quick question...
16:27 oleonard You too Joubu
16:23 Joubu have a good w-e #koha
16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13255 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , On-site checkout due date wrong if SpecifyDueDate is disabled
16:22 Joubu oleonard, tcohen: patch submited on bug 13255. Quite dirty but should be efficient
16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10473: (RM followup) small wording change <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63dd425a46de599be25bb2ccb10bd3726d355de8> / Bug 10473: Get rif of the placeholder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a13e859c6ecf62e64d6ebab0c45f78d8e1f2b73> / Bug 10473 - Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
16:08 tcohen oh, it works, I was just testing it worked if i pushed "Ok" :-P
16:07 cait ah, so it does when you say cancel?
16:06 tcohen the dialog actually asks for confirmation
16:06 cait hm wasn't that the intention? that if you say yes, it shoud?
16:05 tcohen it is still adding those 10001 items :/
16:04 tcohen 2 vs uncertain, Continue
16:04 oleonard Continue
16:04 tcohen Continue
16:03 tcohen Continue vs. Confirm?
16:03 cait yes
16:02 oleonard Yes
16:02 tcohen cait, oleonard: looks good?
16:00 * tcohen does that kind of thing
16:00 tcohen http://snag.gy/EAoI0.jpg
15:59 oleonard :)
15:59 paul_p oleonard I confirm it was not me ;-)
15:59 oleonard paul_p: I couldn't understand why you would come to Athens and not tell me!
15:58 oleonard paul_p: The other day I saw someone here in Athens who looked so much like you that for a split second I really thought you were here
15:58 paul_p tcohen yep, THE jerusalem ;-)
15:58 * tcohen misses that magical city!
15:57 tcohen paul_p! Jerusalem!
15:57 paul_p hi oleonard (irc connection from Jerusalem ;-) )
15:57 oleonard Hi paul_p
15:54 Joubu (I don't eat enough chedar...)
15:54 tcohen :-P
15:54 Joubu tcohen: not yet, sorry.
15:52 oleonard Sounds good to me.
15:51 tcohen oleonard: deal? "You are about to add XXXX items. Continue?"
15:49 tcohen we can use a javascript placeholder?
15:49 oleonard Yes I know, but a variable inside the string
15:48 tcohen heh, XXXX would be the amount the user entered
15:48 oleonard I like "You are about to add XXXX items. Continue?" but is that difficult to translate because of the XXXX?
15:48 tcohen Joubu: aren't you british now?
15:48 tcohen oleonard: ?
15:47 cait hm better ask a native speaker :)
15:47 tcohen i'm not convinced by the text
15:47 tcohen is the string the patch introduces
15:47 tcohen nope
15:47 cait ah, for the bug title or in Koha?
15:47 cait Ask for confirmation when more than 99 copies would be added ?
15:47 tcohen "You are about to add XXXX items. Continue?"
15:46 tcohen "More than 99 copies will be added. Should they be added?"
15:46 tcohen oleonard, cait: how can we make this sound better?
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13082 normal, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , tools/export.pl fix to forbid adding of all invalid records
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7988 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , warning on authorized values confusing
15:43 jenkins_koha * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 13082: fix to prevent adding of invalid records in marc file
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13207 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Branch:" on basket page should read "Library:"
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10136 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , misc/translator/translator_doc.html outdated
15:43 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 7988: Make note on authorized values page less confusing
15:43 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 13207: "Branch" on basket summary page should be "Library"
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13257 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , update_dbix_class_files.pl need a POD
15:43 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 10136: Remove outdated translation tool docs
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13220 major, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Shipment date not saved when creating an invoice which has a duplicated number
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13257: update_dbix_class_files.pl need a POD
15:43 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 13220 - Shipment date not saved when creating an invoice which has a duplicated number
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference
15:43 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13226: 9999-12-31 should not considered as a valid date
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: dependency updates
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: DBIx updates
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: DBRev 3.17.00.055
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: QA followup - Make the tests pass
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: QA followup
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: QA followup - fix pod
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: Add support for Norwegian national library card
15:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #230: UNSTABLE in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/230/
15:42 wahanui placeholders are important, but not universally used
15:42 tcohen placeholders?
15:41 tcohen lower latency
15:41 oleonard ashimema: Are you saying that running Koha over telnet *isn't* the best way to go?!
15:40 * ashimema feels like he just stepped into another universe
15:40 tcohen he says hi :-D
15:38 cait say hi to augustin if he is still around? :)
15:38 * cait waves to the coworkers
15:38 cait :)
15:37 tcohen_flame-mode they are used to this heh
15:37 marcelr tell them it is friday
15:36 tcohen_flame-mode my colleages are worried about how loud i'm laughing right now
15:36 Joubu 522419 1773067 16007073 koha.pl
15:36 Joubu wc koha.pl
15:35 tcohen_flame-mode maybe we even win a Guiness record prize!
15:35 marcelr i worked with such stuff
15:35 marcelr 2 zillion lines
15:35 marcelr all code in one script !
15:34 Joubu rm **/*.t; cat **/*.pm **/*.pl > koha.pl
15:34 tcohen_flame-mode so everyone can have their own script for CRUD, no silly APIs to use
15:33 tcohen_flame-mode i store them on a big flat file
15:33 tcohen_flame-mode of course!
15:33 marcelr ?
15:33 marcelr can your sed script removes holds
15:33 tcohen_flame-mode cait: i have a oneliner that can take care of the whole holdings code
15:33 oleonard The Koha file system would be a lot simpler if we just used one big script.
15:32 tcohen_flame-mode ooohhhhh
15:32 marcelr why use modules and objects anyway?
15:31 tcohen_flame-mode we can make use of "print" inside perl scripts
15:31 wahanui templates are written in Template::Toolkit.
15:31 tcohen_flame-mode templates?
15:30 * oleonard reimplements the templates using tables and font tags
15:29 tcohen_flame-mode my custom curl + grep client is not working with the staff interface
15:29 tcohen_flame-mode heh
15:29 oleonard I'm concerned that we don't support Netscape 3
15:29 marcelr yeah
15:29 oleonard HTML5 is just too new and scary
15:28 oleonard Anyway, I think we should switch to an HTML 3.2 doctype
15:28 marcelr too bad
15:28 oleonard Too long.
15:28 marcelr maybe some other changes as well?
15:28 * tcohen_flame-mode has a super-sed command that can do it
15:27 marcelr lets do it rightaway
15:27 marcelr good idea !
15:27 tcohen hey, wouldn't we save several bytes per file if we switched to tabs?
15:18 tcohen i think i'm missing something
15:18 * oleonard grumbles
15:17 marcelr ok; every so many years you should change your indentation rules :)
15:16 tcohen i mean git bz <tab>
15:16 tcohen heh
15:16 marcelr you can have wars about them
15:16 marcelr tabs and spaces..
15:15 tcohen marcelr: for the tab-completion, I'll just attach it to the wiki, don't worry :D
15:15 tcohen marcelr: indeed
15:14 marcelr be careful
15:14 * tcohen loves RM powers :-P
15:14 tcohen i was also pissed I had to read the update_dbix_class_files.pl code to remember the parameters, but that's solved now
15:08 cait heh
15:06 tcohen and also because of 12831
15:06 * tcohen is pissed we still don't have tab-completion for git-bz :-P
15:04 cait well thebehaviour is not the bug, but the reason why it worked - if i understood correctly
15:03 cait i think noone is actively working on it - which is bad, because even if the behaviour was a bug... it will still break a lot of workflows :(
15:01 tcohen ashimema: comments on the status od 12831?
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13215 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , letter.code is considered as a primary key
15:01 cait bug 13215
14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled
14:59 cait bug 12831
14:59 wahanui i think bugs is http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/44776341195/bug-reports-after-a-new-release
14:58 tcohen cait: bugs?
14:58 cait hm we still also need to fix local accounts for ldap and not being able to have multiple notices with the same code
14:55 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update xslt appendix
14:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha Docs 3.16.x build #5: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha%20Docs%203.16.x/5/
14:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha Docs 3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13082: fix to prevent adding of invalid records in marc file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59b7744e1c14da3e9fcd662fd128957ac0d2bf13> / Bug 7988: Make note on authorized values page less confusing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4a5d0c561c5e851aed940ddc9ffb8ef37921984> / Bug 13207: "Branch" on basket summary page should be "Library" <http://git.koha-com
14:54 marcelr :)
14:54 tcohen good question
14:53 marcelr will they make it for 3.18?
14:52 marcelr ok
14:52 tcohen zeno and paola are working on regression tests for the UTF8 patches
14:51 marcelr hi tcohen
14:50 tcohen hi marcelr
14:50 tcohen Jouburc
14:50 marcelr hi again
14:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update xslt appendix
14:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #582: SUCCESS in 2 min 53 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/582/
14:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #582 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:42 tcohen thx
14:42 Joubu tcohen: yes, next week
14:41 cait Joubu: the good wishes still count :)
14:40 tcohen Joubu: will u take on it?
14:39 Joubu thanks oleonard
14:38 * oleonard added a comment to the bug.
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13255 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On-site checkout due date wrong if SpecifyDueDate is disabled
14:35 oleonard Bug 13255 is not a template-only problem unfortunately, because circulation.pl won't even look at a "custom" due date if SpecifyDueDate is turned off.
14:32 magnuse have fun, #koha!
14:29 Joubu cait: not in w-e yet, but I would like to finish some stuffs before
14:27 cait Joubu: have a nice weekend :)
14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
14:24 magnuse rangi++ tcohen++ cait++ eythian++ woohoo! bug 11401
14:21 Joubu cait: I will try to have a look next week
14:13 cait stubborn feature that
14:13 cait the one for specify due date and in-house
14:12 cait yes... wrong bug number, again
14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13225 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 result Card View doesn't work for UNIMARC
14:11 cait about bug 13225 - if we don't get it fixed, maybe we could make the prefs depend with a note at least?
14:10 tcohen olawale: there's a note about 14.04 on the appendix
14:10 olawale tanx
14:10 olawale okie
14:10 oleonard olawale: I assume so
14:09 olawale oleonard: will the instruction work for ubuntu 14.04 ??...I read it has been tested for version 12.04 ??
14:09 nengard :)
14:09 * nengard doesn't panic
14:09 nengard well i have plenty to document while i wait to do a new fetch
14:09 cait woohoo tcohen++ magnuse++
14:09 * oleonard panics
14:09 oleonard USA IN GIT BLACKOUT!
14:08 tcohen it's a problem with the HTTP layer
14:08 nengard maybe
14:08 cait maybe git is overwhelmed :)
14:08 nengard don't want to be alone!
14:08 nengard :)
14:08 oleonard :P
14:08 nengard oh good
14:08 oleonard I'm having trouble too nengard
14:08 nengard git fetch
14:08 cait what command are you using?
14:07 nengard tcohen same
14:04 tcohen try again?
14:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13220 - Shipment date not saved when creating an invoice which has a duplicated... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51601176c6ad9ff5bfc73502b472d4647bab96f1> / Bug 13226: 9999-12-31 should not considered as a valid date <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57dff1e63f5778a427390215f82909a82f54eccd> / Bug 11401: dependency updates <http://git.koha-community.org/g
14:04 nengard fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
14:04 nengard anyone having an issue fetching from git?
13:56 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
13:56 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'it'
13:56 tcohen jenkins_koha: it was never broken
13:56 tcohen it probably is a template problem
13:55 oleonard tcohen: I will see what I can find out.
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13075 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Use of uninitialized value while proving db_dependent/Holds.t
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12779 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Capitalization: strings on subscription add page
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13232 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , patron letter browse not working
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
13:55 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13075: (followup) remove remaining warnings
13:55 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13075: Silence warnings and improve Charset testing.
13:55 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 12779: Capitalization on add/edit subscription form
13:55 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13232: Search patrons by a first letter should not redirect to a patron detail page
13:55 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: (qa followup) document the existence of the sample files
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13253 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:55 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: introduce XSLT scripts to remove items and links
13:55 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13253 - Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #162: FIXED in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/162/
13:55 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:55 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:55 tcohen oleonard: do u plan to work on it?
13:54 olawale Oleonard: I need to do this before i can install the web installer but there was no where to change the port to 8080 since the file is empty
13:53 olawale Oleonard : The procedure I followed before says I should Edit configuration file: $ sudo vi /etc/apache2/sites-available/library Change intranet port to: *:8080 When I copied and pasted the command on the terminal it was a blank file that came up.
13:51 oleonard ...but it's up to you. Sometimes it's easier just to start from the beginning.
13:50 oleonard olawale: If the procedure you followed before matches what those instructions tell you then there isn't any need to uninstall
13:49 olawale Oleonard: okay...I will un-install this one and try the link you sent....May I have your email incase i run into issue??... Thanks
13:49 oleonard olawale: I suggest you review the link I posted above, especially the parts about configuring Apache
13:48 olawale Oleonard: I didnt get that please
13:47 tcohen f**k
13:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13255 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On-site checkout due date wrong if SpecifyDueDate is disabled
13:45 oleonard tcohen: FYI, Bug 13255
13:45 cait does someone know what the current default is?
13:44 cait olawale: it might be staff or intra andnot 8080 if you are installing from packages
13:44 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
13:44 olawale yes, from the terminal
13:43 oleonard olawale: Are you installing using packages?
13:43 olawale i am at the point of running the web installer but when I typed localhost :8080 it was index page that came up
13:43 olawale someone actually sent me a document but it not working
13:42 oleonard olawale: What instructions are you following?
13:41 olawale Please, i need help on koha installation
13:41 olawale Hello everyone
13:37 cait i was wondering this morning why it didn't show in my queue .)
13:37 cait oleonard: sounds good to me
13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Make on-site checkouts visible in OPAC
13:35 oleonard Joubu: Bug 13234 should be put back to "Signed off" shouldn't it?
13:32 cait hm sounds plausible
13:31 oleonard Do freshly pushed patches smell like freshly baked pie?
13:30 cait the sound of freshly pushed patches... or the smell? the sight? :)
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13075 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Use of uninitialized value while proving db_dependent/Holds.t
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12779 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Capitalization: strings on subscription add page
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13232 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , patron letter browse not working
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
13:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13075: (followup) remove remaining warnings
13:29 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13075: Silence warnings and improve Charset testing.
13:29 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 12779: Capitalization on add/edit subscription form
13:29 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13232: Search patrons by a first letter should not redirect to a patron detail page
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13253 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: (qa followup) document the existence of the sample files
13:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: introduce XSLT scripts to remove items and links
13:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13253 - Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #218: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/218/
13:29 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:29 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:28 cait tcohen: a lot of people here would agree with this decision i think
13:27 tcohen a couple years back
13:27 tcohen we stopped using it
13:26 tcohen heh
13:26 oleonard Sounds confusing!
13:26 tcohen we are not consistent
13:26 tcohen sometimes
13:25 oleonard tcohen: Does your country do daylight savings time?
13:25 * tcohen adjusts his clock widgets
13:25 tcohen oh, thanks oleonard
13:24 oleonard tcohen: He did change time zone (Atlanta, GA -- US Eastern time zone), but I don't know where he is in the move process.
13:22 tcohen also, does anyone want to try Google Inbox?
13:22 tcohen #koha does anyone remember if Galen changed timezone?
13:21 tcohen where did he move to?
13:21 wahanui somebody said gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
13:21 tcohen gmcharlt?
12:53 tcohen hi oleonard
12:45 oleonard Hi #koha
12:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13075: (followup) remove remaining warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=900670bd3bd3d1984dbd23e86e78706ff15288f9> / Bug 13075: Silence warnings and improve Charset testing. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=878fa77c30732eb5f37f9bd050286b10b74fb881> / Bug 12779: Capitalization on add/edit subscription form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi
12:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #161: FAILURE in 1 min 28 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/161/
12:28 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 28.7°C (9:25 AM ART on November 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:28 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:28 tcohen morning!
11:25 drojf yep
11:25 drojf hi cait :)
11:25 cait are you studying?
11:25 cait hi drojf :)
10:54 drojf hi #koha
10:48 ashimema ythank
10:48 ashimema oh cool
10:42 magnuse there is an issue for this, btw: https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/issues/46 Gitify or traditional dev install?
10:39 ashimema the issue with gitified is that you end up with a bunch of mismatched scripts running
10:39 ashimema but.. you'dse probably want to do some clever pinning and the like with the repo code..
10:39 ashimema ooh.. perhaps..
10:38 magnuse could we do both? have both a dev install and a gitified install running out of the same git repo and using the same database? just a crazy thought...
10:37 magnuse probably not doable...
10:37 magnuse true
10:35 ashimema mostly they are wrappers to existing scripts that get installed all over the place in a prod install.
10:35 ashimema though I think it woudl be harder than that... we would also need to change what scripts they call..
10:34 ashimema I agree..
10:34 ashimema that would certainly be nice..
10:28 magnuse link koha-conf.xml to where the scripts expect to find them, or something?
10:27 magnuse i wonder if we could make them work with a dev install?
10:27 magnuse the koha-* scripts are a huge boon for the gitified setup, though
10:26 magnuse thinking that i might want to switch to a dev install later
10:26 magnuse which is why i chose gitified in the first place
10:26 magnuse true
10:24 ashimema and achievable.. just not as straight forward to get up and running as gitify is ;)
10:24 ashimema I'm fairly sure it's viable..
10:23 ashimema I've got to work out how to do it first ;)
10:23 magnuse ashimema: i'd accept a patch to make kohadevbox use a trad dev install, i think :-)
09:56 ashimema :)
09:56 marcelr :)
09:56 marcelr not in his head hopefully
09:56 ashimema you hit the nail on the head there.
09:56 marcelr and he has no time obviously
09:56 ashimema but it was on the understanding that galen and tomas were still writing test for it as a seperate piece of work.
09:55 marcelr ok that waits for galen perhaps
09:55 Joubu but nobody will write them
09:55 ashimema I passed qa on it a while back..
09:55 Joubu doesn't
09:55 Joubu marcelr: Tomas don't want to push it without unit tests
09:55 marcelr i thought he kept a branch for it
09:55 marcelr ok i ask tomas
09:54 Joubu marcelr: Actually, I don't know
09:54 marcelr i have a report now that might depend on it
09:54 Joubu marcelr: hum, passed qa? :)
09:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
09:54 marcelr Joubu: what is the status of bug 11944 ?
09:53 marcelr any other from QA team may beat me to it
09:52 marcelr i hope to take bug 11395 but not today anymore ;)
09:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch modifications for records
09:52 Joubu marcelr: bug 11395 will be easy to test when 11413 will be into master!
09:51 nlegrand Hey #koha !
09:51 Joubu marcelr: thanks!
09:51 marcelr Joubu++
09:51 marcelr well, no one did
09:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
09:42 marcelr if anyone still has a issue with bug 11413, please step up now :) Almost ready..
09:23 ashimema it somehow feels sloppy to be sending username:password combinations with every request.. but that's what rest expects really.
09:22 * ashimema should probably get back to his rest authorization/authentication work now..
09:20 marcelr agreed
09:20 ashimema I think leave the bug there so if anyone does run into the issue they can find the fix.. but I wouldn't pollute koha with it yet..
09:19 ashimema me either..
09:19 marcelr do not like the workaround thing really
09:19 ashimema indeed
09:18 marcelr it is somewhat arbitrary
09:18 ashimema but wonder if I'm just a bit of a fring use case..
09:18 ashimema I'm happy to also test it and sign that off if you think it sohuld make it into koha though..
09:18 ashimema Yeah.. I think your right.
09:18 marcelr i think that if you would not pursue that one, there will not be much others?
09:17 marcelr yes
09:16 ashimema it's plain annoying that libxml doesn't handle it correctly in the first place.
09:16 ashimema thankyou for all your hard work in getting it to work with that workaround though..
09:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12758 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Failure when loading or parsing XSLT stylesheets over HTTPS
09:16 ashimema ps.. I've given up on loading the xslt's via https url.. basically decided it was too annoying a bug to fix our side.. so I wouldn't be upset if bug 12758 never made it in...
09:15 marcelr great ashimema++
09:14 ashimema couldn't find any regressions.. happy to sign it off.
09:13 ashimema marcelr: done.
09:07 ashimema it's gathering real momentum too by the looks.. which is awesome.
09:06 ashimema I'm very happy to see kohadevbox though.. magnuse++
09:06 ashimema each to their own...
09:05 ashimema but install koha itself from git using make
09:05 ashimema I think these days I'd use the repo's for dependancies koha-perl-deps and koha-deps
09:05 wizzybobizzy same for SIP
09:04 wizzybobizzy from the package locations
09:04 ashimema most of which are ;too hard to fix; unfrotunatley
09:04 wizzybobizzy symlinks to the dev directory and such
09:04 ashimema I've been trying to list gitify bugs as I go along..
09:04 wizzybobizzy we were talking about ways to fix the zebra issues
09:04 ashimema but in practice I think I prefer a proper dev install.
09:03 wizzybobizzy I say, fix gitify ;)
09:03 wizzybobizzy ^>^
09:03 wizzybobizzy stuff that could and should be added to gitify
09:03 ashimema I agree that it's a fantastic idea..
09:03 wizzybobizzy but yeah, there are some disadvantages.
09:03 ashimema things like SIP and Zebra patches are substantially harder to test with gitified.
09:03 wizzybobizzy gitify, that is.
09:03 * wizzybobizzy was kinda there when it was written
09:03 ashimema but there are a fair few disadvantages with gitified.. as I've learnt painfully whilst using it for a fair while now.
09:02 ashimema for the average use I'de hope you couldn't tell the difference ;)
09:02 wizzybobizzy but I"m used to working in a gitified environment
09:02 wizzybobizzy I rather like it the way it is.
09:01 wizzybobizzy could make it optional
09:01 ashimema I'm still tempted to submit a patch to shift kohadevbox back to dev env intsead of gitify env.
09:01 wizzybobizzy yes that
09:01 wahanui i heard vagrant was https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
09:01 wizzybobizzy vagrant?
09:01 wizzybobizzy hm no
09:01 wahanui somebody said vagrant was an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
09:01 wizzybobizzy vagrant?
09:01 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:01 ashimema interesting..
09:01 ashimema ooh.. you added some aliases to kohadevbox..
09:01 marcelr if user=~/ ^wizzy/
09:00 wizzybobizzy git aliases to do useful things
09:00 wizzybobizzy I should send a patch for the docs as well.
09:00 wahanui aliases are already set up even, afaik
09:00 marcelr aliases?
09:00 wizzybobizzy thanks for accepting my aliases into the kohadevbox <3
08:59 wizzybobizzy i'm just too lazy to connect to my bouncer.
08:59 wizzybobizzy yes, yes they are.
08:58 * magnuse was wondering if wizzybobizzy and wizzyrea were related
08:55 marcelr :)
08:55 ashimema always feel free to poke me though if you have a bug you want testing for signoff ;)
08:55 marcelr np
08:55 ashimema mind you.. what little time I get to concentrate on the project.. I tend to focus on QA
08:54 ashimema pants... not sure how I missed that..
08:54 marcelr ashimema++
08:54 marcelr no it is waiting for two months already in NSO
08:54 * ashimema head to bug to test
08:53 ashimema ooh.. I thought it had already been signed..
08:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow passing code to XSLT_Handler instead of filename
08:53 marcelr ashimema: i need a signoff on bug 12973
08:53 wizzybobizzy yarp
08:53 ashimema we're in feature freeze for 3.18 now..
08:53 ashimema I beleive that's the case yes wizzybobizzy
08:53 * wizzybobizzy pats ashimema
08:53 ashimema my brain hurts... getting my head around the statelessness of REST is being mean to my head.
08:53 wizzybobizzy i'm guessing that won't make it into 3.18, 3.20 tho?
08:52 ashimema ^++
08:52 wizzybobizzy marcelr++ generally :)
08:51 ashimema marcelr++ for working so hard on all tihng xslt related of late :)
08:51 wizzybobizzy < a lazy wizzyrea
08:51 ashimema that's what I like to see.
08:51 wizzybobizzy MUCH SQUEEING
08:51 marcelr it is a dependency
08:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
08:51 marcelr wizzybobizzy: i am working on bug 11413 now
08:51 wizzybobizzy happy tears, of course.
08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch modifications for records
08:50 wizzybobizzy talk to me about bug 11395 - how close is this to getting in because seriously I hadn't noticed it until this very moment and I am so excited about it I could weep.
08:50 marcelr hi ashimema
08:50 ashimema mornin' #koha
08:48 wizzybobizzy sup humans of #kohaland
08:32 cait fredericd - are you around?
08:32 cait fredericd++ #sign-offs
08:16 cait sounds good
08:16 cait it says marc21 but shoudl also improve things for normarc - only unimarc is mapped to publicationyear, the other 2 default map to copyrightyear... it's a reoccuring problem
08:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
08:16 marcelr if there is time left after bug 11413
08:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12567 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21
08:16 cait bug 12567
08:16 marcelr bug 12567
08:16 cait 12567
08:15 cait ashimema signed it off, so that's 2 qa people out
08:15 marcelr bug number?
08:15 cait marcelr: could you take a look at my fix fo the cataloguing reportmaybe?
08:14 marcelr thx
08:14 cait yep
08:14 marcelr cait: can you upgrade the status of that report now?
08:14 cait :)
08:14 marcelr cait++ # for persisting
08:14 cait hi marcelr and magnuse
08:14 magnuse hiya cait and marcelr
08:14 marcelr and hi cait
08:13 marcelr hi magnuse
08:12 * magnuse waves
07:59 ribasushi dcook: can you tell me where in the docs does it say that chaining will work the way you expected? can't seem to find it...
07:57 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~kasei/Class-Accessor-0.34/lib/Class/Accessor.pm#follow_best_practice
07:57 rangi if it confuses people we probably should switch on the best practices pragma
07:56 rangi yeah, thats pretty much expected behaviour
07:56 ribasushi it would be extremely surprising if we changed that, so that can't really go away
07:55 ribasushi <dcook> [Fri 01:12:56] It looks like the write accessors return the updated value rather than the object <--- this is how accessors work more or less everywhere in perl
07:55 alex_a bonjour
07:53 marcelr true
07:53 rangi are better than an empty if ;)
07:53 rangi any of those three
07:53 marcelr :)
07:53 marcelr i would prefer if not above unless but maybe that is because i am not english
07:52 rangi but an empty if is just confusing
07:52 rangi do stuff
07:52 rangi if ($canReserve ne 'OK') {
07:52 rangi if you dont like unless then
07:52 marcelr maybe a matter of taste?
07:52 rangi or
07:52 rangi is much better
07:51 rangi }
07:51 marcelr rangi: reading unless always confuses me
07:51 rangi do stuff
07:51 rangi then unless ($canReserve eq 'OK') {
07:51 rangi if you are doing that, ie and if that does nothing and the else does everything
07:51 rangi - else {
07:51 rangi - }
07:51 rangi - #All is OK!
07:51 rangi - if ($canReserve eq 'OK') {
07:48 marcelr Using unless instead of if?
07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13116 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Make it possible to propagate errors from C4::Reserves::CanItemBeReserved() to the web-templates.
07:46 marcelr Bug 13116 [QA Followup] - Remove tabs, use unless instead of if
07:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
07:41 marcelr bug 11413
07:38 reiveune bonjour marcelr rangi
07:37 marcelr hi #koha reiveune
07:37 reiveune hello
06:14 dcook Okies, I should go home
06:12 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:12 dcook @later tell marcelr I have a small patch in the works to add "parameters" and "register_function" to the XSLT_handler. Haven't posted a bug report yet, but will soon.
06:05 huginn dcook: marcelr was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 31 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi paul_p ashimema
06:05 dcook @seen marcelr
05:33 dcook You too!
05:33 dcook Oh yeah... thanks :)
05:33 cait have a nice weekend :)
05:33 cait yo dcook
05:33 dcook yo cait
05:17 dcook No fun when method names are the same..
05:15 dcook Hmmm
04:11 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook :)
04:05 dcook A bit annoying but makes sense
04:05 dcook Makes sense
04:05 dcook Mmm due to underscores in the table name I guess
04:04 dcook but "DefaultCircRule"
04:04 dcook "Deletedbiblio"
04:04 dcook Huh... just noticed some weirdness with DBIC result sets
03:27 kathryn night!
03:26 tcohen night every1, 1 minute left, battery is dying now!
03:26 tcohen thanks kathryn, bookmarked
03:26 kathryn https://ukutabs.com/j/jason-mraz/im-yours/ <tcohen :)
03:25 wahanui hmmm... which one is that? The fixed navbar?
03:25 tcohen which one?
03:25 tcohen it is for the baby and the wife
03:25 kathryn oh I have a good one if it's for your wife
03:24 tcohen my wife says i only nknow sad songs heh
03:24 tcohen heh
03:24 kathryn might feel happy to play it though :)
03:24 kathryn that's not happy! (is it?)
03:24 tcohen http://www.ukulele-tabs.com/uke-songs/red-hot-chili-peppers/under-the-bridge-uke-tab-11803.html
03:23 kathryn thanks mtompset :)
03:23 wizzyrea hmmm.
03:23 wizzyrea ummmmm
03:23 tcohen wizzyrea: happy song for the uke?
03:22 wahanui it has been said that vagrant is https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
03:22 wizzyrea vagrant?
03:22 mtompset Congratulations, kathryn. :)
03:22 wahanui ah is that what goes after the last
03:22 tcohen ah?
03:22 wizzyrea norwegian developer thing
03:22 tcohen for Manuel
03:22 wizzyrea norwegian thing
03:22 tcohen looking for a happy song to play on the ukelele
03:21 tcohen we are due 21st december
03:19 kathryn I'm due NYs day...
03:19 kathryn and congrats to you :)
03:19 tcohen congrats kathryn !!
03:19 kathryn hi tcohen I'm up to 33 :)
03:17 mtompset WOW! Congratulations!
03:17 tcohen 35 weeks already!
03:17 tcohen mtompset: yes!
03:17 tcohen http://www.ukulele-tabs.com/uke-songs/rem/losing-my-religion-uke-tab-33715.html
03:12 mtompset Are you expecting?
03:12 mtompset pregnancy gym course?
03:11 wizzyrea as in, I know about 5 chords and can't keep a beat.
03:11 wizzyrea (not including my extremely amateur self)
03:10 wizzyrea I know at least 4 ukulele playing librarians now
03:10 tcohen no trying something on the uke
03:08 wizzyrea oh, that's less bad. :)
03:08 tcohen 20~22:30 actually
03:08 wizzyrea that's dedication.
03:08 tcohen plus dinner
03:08 wizzyrea at midnight!?
03:08 tcohen course
03:08 tcohen just got back from the pregnancy gym
03:08 tcohen very late
03:08 wizzyrea or very late night...
03:07 wizzyrea good... very early morning? tcohen?
03:07 wizzyrea yep, cuzn I fixed it ^.^
03:07 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.6°C (12:05 AM ART on November 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
03:07 mtompset I refreshed and it was right.
03:07 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
03:07 wizzyrea I'll want the title of the FAQ, and the text you want changed :)
03:06 wizzyrea so, if you have any text suggestions for a particular faq, email them to wizzyrea at gmail
03:06 wizzyrea FAQ is on my list of things to tidy
03:06 wizzyrea I'm going to be doing some work on the website this weekend I think
03:04 wizzyrea ?
03:03 mtompset DOH! :)
03:03 mtompset wizzyrea++ # thanks for the obvious easy fix.
03:03 mtompset Cache issue. Thanks. :)
03:03 mtompset Ah... okay. :)
03:03 wizzyrea ?
03:03 wizzyrea refresh/
03:03 wizzyrea but shouldn't be now
03:03 wizzyrea it's cached
03:03 wizzyrea yes I saw ;)
03:02 mtompset That's the line with the mistake in it.
03:02 wizzyrea oh, caching, sec
03:02 mtompset sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v –full $(/usr/sbin/koha-list)
03:02 wizzyrea (I'll fix up the others too)
03:02 wizzyrea mtompset: how's that?
02:56 wizzyrea you can probably blame wp_texturize
02:55 wizzyrea you can bother me
02:51 mtompset The hypen in front of full in the reindex command is not a plain hypen.
02:51 mtompset Who might I bother about a typo on http://koha-community.org/faqs/zebra-indexing-wont-work-fix-it-aka-search-stuff-up-help/?
02:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:39 dcook I guess checking for errors is fairly normal though
02:39 dcook Hmm, too bad the XSLT_handler doesn't throw exceptions
02:28 dcook Do you re-import Record X, or do you throw an error because you can't update the original?
02:28 dcook You run another harvest and an updated Record X is downloaded
02:28 dcook You then delete Record X (either on purpose or by accident)
02:28 dcook Let's say you import Record X
02:27 dcook Hmm, I wonder with OAI...
02:26 wizzyrea later oleonard
02:26 dcook :(
02:25 oleonard Enjoy the rest of your day #koha
02:25 oleonard *sigh* something for my plate in (checks watch) 11 hours.
02:24 wizzyrea quick! Duck!
02:24 oleonard git bisect is pointing to ME. Or someone right behind me.
02:24 dcook Feeling like a wizard was pretty rad
02:23 * dcook seems to recall thinking something similar when he first started programming
02:23 dcook :)
02:22 oleonard I got into web design because it really did seem magical
02:21 wizzyrea magical*
02:21 wizzyrea isn't it magiacl?
02:21 wizzyrea dear oleonard's 10 year old self: the future is a magical place where codified words make pixels on a screen change colour in sometimes-organised ways
02:20 oleonard So now I'm git bisecting over table row background colors. Tell my 10-year-old self the future is magical.
02:00 wizzyrea and manages the expectation of permanence
02:00 wizzyrea at the very least, it allows flexibility in the mental model people have for websites.
01:59 dcook Agreed
01:58 wizzyrea I feel that major services changing things without warning is actually good for the mental flexibility of users.
01:58 dcook Although age doesn't really have a lot to do with technology really..
01:57 dcook Maybe I'm running with a younger crowd now..
01:57 dcook I used to hear "I hate Facebook for updating" but I haven't heard much recently
01:57 dcook You would think that people would be used to change these days what with updates to Facebook and all
01:57 dcook heh
01:56 wizzyrea lol.
01:56 oleonard They'll probably reboot their computers at least once to try to make it go away.
01:56 wizzyrea "oh, it's different! Hey I don't have to scroll!" is the reaction I'm hoping for.
01:56 oleonard At least not after their initial shock.
01:55 oleonard But I think it looks good and I don't think my librarians will object
01:54 wizzyrea lol fair enough.
01:54 oleonard They hate change.
01:54 wizzyrea how do you think your librarians would react to that
01:54 huginn 04Bug 13218: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Signed Off , usability enhancement for z39.50 search
01:54 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13218 hey, did you have an opinion about this
01:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
01:53 oleonard Another follow-up to Bug 11703 to (help) prevent my librarians from tarring and feathering me.
01:53 wizzyrea niiiiiice
01:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13253 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
01:53 oleonard Bug 13253
01:52 oleonard My mission of pixel death is fulfilled. I killed 300% more pixels than anticipated.
01:41 oleonard Nor I
01:41 * wizzyrea self flagellates
01:40 * wizzyrea admits to not checking that combination
01:31 oleonard It looks like having the SpecifyDueDate preference turned off breaks the automatic end-of-day due date of the on-site checkout.
01:30 wizzyrea you mean if you turn that off altogether?
01:18 oleonard Uh oh... Looks like on-site checkouts don't work right if you have SpecifyDueDate disabled...
01:04 dcook hehe
01:01 wizzyrea ooh, a pixel predator
00:58 oleonard But I'm not here on a mission of kindness. I'm here to kill 33 pixels and no one can get in my way.
00:57 oleonard Aw. You guys are my best buds.
00:56 oleonard :D
00:56 dcook ^
00:56 wizzyrea I appreciate you!
00:56 wizzyrea oleonard! Hi!
00:55 dcook yo oleonard
00:53 oleonard Hi again #koha
00:12 dcook It looks like the write accessors return the updated value rather than the object... and that's why you can't chain an update() method onto the end... even though that's what the DBIx::Class::Row docs say to do...
00:06 dcook Nope, no idea
00:05 dcook Ahh, I wonder..
00:00 dcook Hmm
00:00 huginn dcook: ribasushi was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <ribasushi> right... well I will be coming online on and off, but feel free to drop me a line here if you need help with something I guess...
00:00 dcook @seen ribasushi