Time Nick Message
00:00 dcook @seen ribasushi
00:00 huginn dcook: ribasushi was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <ribasushi> right... well I will be coming online on and off, but feel free to drop me a line here if you need help with something I guess...
00:00 dcook Hmm
00:05 dcook Ahh, I wonder..
00:06 dcook Nope, no idea
00:12 dcook It looks like the write accessors return the updated value rather than the object... and that's why you can't chain an update() method onto the end... even though that's what the DBIx::Class::Row docs say to do...
00:53 oleonard Hi again #koha
00:55 dcook yo oleonard
00:56 wizzyrea oleonard! Hi!
00:56 wizzyrea I appreciate you!
00:56 dcook ^
00:56 oleonard :D
00:57 oleonard Aw. You guys are my best buds.
00:58 oleonard But I'm not here on a mission of kindness. I'm here to kill 33 pixels and no one can get in my way.
01:01 wizzyrea ooh, a pixel predator
01:04 dcook hehe
01:18 oleonard Uh oh... Looks like on-site checkouts don't work right if you have SpecifyDueDate disabled...
01:30 wizzyrea you mean if you turn that off altogether?
01:31 oleonard It looks like having the SpecifyDueDate preference turned off breaks the automatic end-of-day due date of the on-site checkout.
01:40 * wizzyrea admits to not checking that combination
01:41 * wizzyrea self flagellates
01:41 oleonard Nor I
01:52 oleonard My mission of pixel death is fulfilled. I killed 300% more pixels than anticipated.
01:53 oleonard Bug 13253
01:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13253 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
01:53 wizzyrea niiiiiice
01:53 oleonard Another follow-up to Bug 11703 to (help) prevent my librarians from tarring and feathering me.
01:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
01:54 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13218 hey, did you have an opinion about this
01:54 huginn 04Bug 13218: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Signed Off , usability enhancement for z39.50 search
01:54 wizzyrea how do you think your librarians would react to that
01:54 oleonard They hate change.
01:54 wizzyrea lol fair enough.
01:55 oleonard But I think it looks good and I don't think my librarians will object
01:56 oleonard At least not after their initial shock.
01:56 wizzyrea "oh, it's different! Hey I don't have to scroll!" is the reaction I'm hoping for.
01:56 oleonard They'll probably reboot their computers at least once to try to make it go away.
01:56 wizzyrea lol.
01:57 dcook heh
01:57 dcook You would think that people would be used to change these days what with updates to Facebook and all
01:57 dcook I used to hear "I hate Facebook for updating" but I haven't heard much recently
01:57 dcook Maybe I'm running with a younger crowd now..
01:58 dcook Although age doesn't really have a lot to do with technology really..
01:58 wizzyrea I feel that major services changing things without warning is actually good for the mental flexibility of users.
01:59 dcook Agreed
02:00 wizzyrea at the very least, it allows flexibility in the mental model people have for websites.
02:00 wizzyrea and manages the expectation of permanence
02:20 oleonard So now I'm git bisecting over table row background colors. Tell my 10-year-old self the future is magical.
02:21 wizzyrea dear oleonard's 10 year old self: the future is a magical place where codified words make pixels on a screen change colour in sometimes-organised ways
02:21 wizzyrea isn't it magiacl?
02:21 wizzyrea magical*
02:22 oleonard I got into web design because it really did seem magical
02:23 dcook :)
02:23 * dcook seems to recall thinking something similar when he first started programming
02:24 dcook Feeling like a wizard was pretty rad
02:24 oleonard git bisect is pointing to ME. Or someone right behind me.
02:24 wizzyrea quick! Duck!
02:25 oleonard *sigh* something for my plate in (checks watch) 11 hours.
02:25 oleonard Enjoy the rest of your day #koha
02:26 dcook :(
02:26 wizzyrea later oleonard
02:27 dcook Hmm, I wonder with OAI...
02:28 dcook Let's say you import Record X
02:28 dcook You then delete Record X (either on purpose or by accident)
02:28 dcook You run another harvest and an updated Record X is downloaded
02:28 dcook Do you re-import Record X, or do you throw an error because you can't update the original?
02:39 dcook Hmm, too bad the XSLT_handler doesn't throw exceptions
02:39 dcook I guess checking for errors is fairly normal though
02:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:51 mtompset Who might I bother about a typo on http://koha-community.org/faqs/zebra-indexing-wont-work-fix-it-aka-search-stuff-up-help/?
02:51 mtompset The hypen in front of full in the reindex command is not a plain hypen.
02:55 wizzyrea you can bother me
02:56 wizzyrea you can probably blame wp_texturize
03:02 wizzyrea mtompset: how's that?
03:02 wizzyrea (I'll fix up the others too)
03:02 mtompset sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v –full $(/usr/sbin/koha-list)
03:02 wizzyrea oh, caching, sec
03:02 mtompset That's the line with the mistake in it.
03:03 wizzyrea yes I saw ;)
03:03 wizzyrea it's cached
03:03 wizzyrea but shouldn't be now
03:03 wizzyrea refresh/
03:03 wizzyrea ?
03:03 mtompset Ah... okay. :)
03:03 mtompset Cache issue. Thanks. :)
03:03 mtompset wizzyrea++ # thanks for the obvious easy fix.
03:03 mtompset DOH! :)
03:04 wizzyrea ?
03:06 wizzyrea I'm going to be doing some work on the website this weekend I think
03:06 wizzyrea FAQ is on my list of things to tidy
03:06 wizzyrea so, if you have any text suggestions for a particular faq, email them to wizzyrea at gmail
03:07 wizzyrea I'll want the title of the FAQ, and the text you want changed :)
03:07 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
03:07 mtompset I refreshed and it was right.
03:07 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.6°C (12:05 AM ART on November 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
03:07 wizzyrea yep, cuzn I fixed it ^.^
03:07 wizzyrea good... very early morning? tcohen?
03:08 wizzyrea or very late night...
03:08 tcohen very late
03:08 tcohen just got back from the pregnancy gym
03:08 tcohen course
03:08 wizzyrea at midnight!?
03:08 tcohen plus dinner
03:08 wizzyrea that's dedication.
03:08 tcohen 20~22:30 actually
03:08 wizzyrea oh, that's less bad. :)
03:10 tcohen no trying something on the uke
03:10 wizzyrea I know at least 4 ukulele playing librarians now
03:11 wizzyrea (not including my extremely amateur self)
03:11 wizzyrea as in, I know about 5 chords and can't keep a beat.
03:12 mtompset pregnancy gym course?
03:12 mtompset Are you expecting?
03:17 tcohen http://www.ukulele-tabs.com/uke-songs/rem/losing-my-religion-uke-tab-33715.html
03:17 tcohen mtompset: yes!
03:17 tcohen 35 weeks already!
03:17 mtompset WOW! Congratulations!
03:19 kathryn hi tcohen I'm up to 33 :)
03:19 tcohen congrats kathryn !!
03:19 kathryn and congrats to you :)
03:19 kathryn I'm due NYs day...
03:21 tcohen we are due 21st december
03:22 tcohen looking for a happy song to play on the ukelele
03:22 wizzyrea norwegian thing
03:22 tcohen for Manuel
03:22 wizzyrea norwegian developer thing
03:22 tcohen ah?
03:22 wahanui ah is that what goes after the last
03:22 mtompset Congratulations, kathryn. :)
03:22 wizzyrea vagrant?
03:22 wahanui it has been said that vagrant is https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
03:23 tcohen wizzyrea: happy song for the uke?
03:23 wizzyrea ummmmm
03:23 wizzyrea hmmm.
03:23 kathryn thanks mtompset :)
03:24 tcohen http://www.ukulele-tabs.com/uke-songs/red-hot-chili-peppers/under-the-bridge-uke-tab-11803.html
03:24 kathryn that's not happy! (is it?)
03:24 kathryn might feel happy to play it though :)
03:24 tcohen heh
03:24 tcohen my wife says i only nknow sad songs heh
03:25 kathryn oh I have a good one if it's for your wife
03:25 tcohen it is for the baby and the wife
03:25 tcohen which one?
03:25 wahanui hmmm... which one is that? The fixed navbar?
03:26 kathryn https://ukutabs.com/j/jason-mraz/im-yours/ <tcohen :)
03:26 tcohen thanks kathryn, bookmarked
03:26 tcohen night every1, 1 minute left, battery is dying now!
03:27 kathryn night!
04:04 dcook Huh... just noticed some weirdness with DBIC result sets
04:04 dcook "Deletedbiblio"
04:04 dcook but "DefaultCircRule"
04:05 dcook Mmm due to underscores in the table name I guess
04:05 dcook Makes sense
04:05 dcook A bit annoying but makes sense
04:11 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook :)
05:15 dcook Hmmm
05:17 dcook No fun when method names are the same..
05:33 dcook yo cait
05:33 cait yo dcook
05:33 cait have a nice weekend :)
05:33 dcook Oh yeah... thanks :)
05:33 dcook You too!
06:05 dcook @seen marcelr
06:05 huginn dcook: marcelr was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 31 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi paul_p ashimema
06:12 dcook @later tell marcelr I have a small patch in the works to add "parameters" and "register_function" to the XSLT_handler. Haven't posted a bug report yet, but will soon.
06:12 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:14 dcook Okies, I should go home
07:37 reiveune hello
07:37 marcelr hi #koha reiveune
07:38 reiveune bonjour marcelr rangi
07:41 marcelr bug 11413
07:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
07:46 marcelr Bug 13116 [QA Followup] - Remove tabs, use unless instead of if
07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13116 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Make it possible to propagate errors from C4::Reserves::CanItemBeReserved() to the web-templates.
07:48 marcelr Using unless instead of if?
07:51 rangi - if ($canReserve eq 'OK') {
07:51 rangi - #All is OK!
07:51 rangi - }
07:51 rangi - else {
07:51 rangi if you are doing that, ie and if that does nothing and the else does everything
07:51 rangi then unless ($canReserve eq 'OK') {
07:51 rangi do stuff
07:51 marcelr rangi: reading unless always confuses me
07:51 rangi }
07:52 rangi is much better
07:52 rangi or
07:52 marcelr maybe a matter of taste?
07:52 rangi if you dont like unless then
07:52 rangi if ($canReserve ne 'OK') {
07:52 rangi do stuff
07:52 rangi but an empty if is just confusing
07:53 marcelr i would prefer if not above unless but maybe that is because i am not english
07:53 marcelr :)
07:53 rangi any of those three
07:53 rangi are better than an empty if ;)
07:53 marcelr true
07:55 alex_a bonjour
07:55 ribasushi <dcook> [Fri 01:12:56] It looks like the write accessors return the updated value rather than the object <--- this is how accessors work more or less everywhere in perl
07:56 ribasushi it would be extremely surprising if we changed that, so that can't really go away
07:56 rangi yeah, thats pretty much expected behaviour
07:57 rangi if it confuses people we probably should switch on the best practices pragma
07:57 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~kasei/Class-Accessor-0.34/lib/Class/Accessor.pm#follow_best_practice
07:59 ribasushi dcook: can you tell me where in the docs does it say that chaining will work the way you expected? can't seem to find it...
08:12 * magnuse waves
08:13 marcelr hi magnuse
08:14 marcelr and hi cait
08:14 magnuse hiya cait and marcelr
08:14 cait hi marcelr and magnuse
08:14 marcelr cait++ # for persisting
08:14 cait :)
08:14 marcelr cait: can you upgrade the status of that report now?
08:14 cait yep
08:14 marcelr thx
08:15 cait marcelr: could you take a look at my fix fo the cataloguing reportmaybe?
08:15 marcelr bug number?
08:15 cait ashimema signed it off, so that's 2 qa people out
08:16 cait 12567
08:16 marcelr bug 12567
08:16 cait bug 12567
08:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12567 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Catalog Statistitics wizard's publication year doesn't work for MARC21
08:16 marcelr if there is time left after bug 11413
08:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
08:16 cait it says marc21 but shoudl also improve things for normarc - only unimarc is mapped to publicationyear, the other 2 default map to copyrightyear... it's a reoccuring problem
08:16 cait sounds good
08:32 cait fredericd++ #sign-offs
08:32 cait fredericd - are you around?
08:48 wizzybobizzy sup humans of #kohaland
08:50 ashimema mornin' #koha
08:50 marcelr hi ashimema
08:50 wizzybobizzy talk to me about bug 11395 - how close is this to getting in because seriously I hadn't noticed it until this very moment and I am so excited about it I could weep.
08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch modifications for records
08:51 wizzybobizzy happy tears, of course.
08:51 marcelr wizzybobizzy: i am working on bug 11413 now
08:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
08:51 marcelr it is a dependency
08:51 wizzybobizzy MUCH SQUEEING
08:51 ashimema that's what I like to see.
08:51 wizzybobizzy < a lazy wizzyrea
08:51 ashimema marcelr++ for working so hard on all tihng xslt related of late :)
08:52 wizzybobizzy marcelr++ generally :)
08:52 ashimema ^++
08:53 wizzybobizzy i'm guessing that won't make it into 3.18, 3.20 tho?
08:53 ashimema my brain hurts... getting my head around the statelessness of REST is being mean to my head.
08:53 * wizzybobizzy pats ashimema
08:53 ashimema I beleive that's the case yes wizzybobizzy
08:53 ashimema we're in feature freeze for 3.18 now..
08:53 wizzybobizzy yarp
08:53 marcelr ashimema: i need a signoff on bug 12973
08:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow passing code to XSLT_Handler instead of filename
08:53 ashimema ooh.. I thought it had already been signed..
08:54 * ashimema head to bug to test
08:54 marcelr no it is waiting for two months already in NSO
08:54 marcelr ashimema++
08:54 ashimema pants... not sure how I missed that..
08:55 ashimema mind you.. what little time I get to concentrate on the project.. I tend to focus on QA
08:55 marcelr np
08:55 ashimema always feel free to poke me though if you have a bug you want testing for signoff ;)
08:55 marcelr :)
08:58 * magnuse was wondering if wizzybobizzy and wizzyrea were related
08:59 wizzybobizzy yes, yes they are.
08:59 wizzybobizzy i'm just too lazy to connect to my bouncer.
09:00 wizzybobizzy thanks for accepting my aliases into the kohadevbox <3
09:00 marcelr aliases?
09:00 wahanui aliases are already set up even, afaik
09:00 wizzybobizzy I should send a patch for the docs as well.
09:00 wizzybobizzy git aliases to do useful things
09:01 marcelr if user=~/ ^wizzy/
09:01 ashimema ooh.. you added some aliases to kohadevbox..
09:01 ashimema interesting..
09:01 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:01 wizzybobizzy vagrant?
09:01 wahanui somebody said vagrant was an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
09:01 wizzybobizzy hm no
09:01 wizzybobizzy vagrant?
09:01 wahanui i heard vagrant was https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
09:01 wizzybobizzy yes that
09:01 ashimema I'm still tempted to submit a patch to shift kohadevbox back to dev env intsead of gitify env.
09:01 wizzybobizzy could make it optional
09:02 wizzybobizzy I rather like it the way it is.
09:02 wizzybobizzy but I"m used to working in a gitified environment
09:02 ashimema for the average use I'de hope you couldn't tell the difference ;)
09:03 ashimema but there are a fair few disadvantages with gitified.. as I've learnt painfully whilst using it for a fair while now.
09:03 * wizzybobizzy was kinda there when it was written
09:03 wizzybobizzy gitify, that is.
09:03 ashimema things like SIP and Zebra patches are substantially harder to test with gitified.
09:03 wizzybobizzy but yeah, there are some disadvantages.
09:03 ashimema I agree that it's a fantastic idea..
09:03 wizzybobizzy stuff that could and should be added to gitify
09:03 wizzybobizzy ^>^
09:03 wizzybobizzy I say, fix gitify ;)
09:04 ashimema but in practice I think I prefer a proper dev install.
09:04 wizzybobizzy we were talking about ways to fix the zebra issues
09:04 ashimema I've been trying to list gitify bugs as I go along..
09:04 wizzybobizzy symlinks to the dev directory and such
09:04 ashimema most of which are ;too hard to fix; unfrotunatley
09:04 wizzybobizzy from the package locations
09:05 wizzybobizzy same for SIP
09:05 ashimema I think these days I'd use the repo's for dependancies koha-perl-deps and koha-deps
09:05 ashimema but install koha itself from git using make
09:06 ashimema each to their own...
09:06 ashimema I'm very happy to see kohadevbox though.. magnuse++
09:07 ashimema it's gathering real momentum too by the looks.. which is awesome.
09:13 ashimema marcelr: done.
09:14 ashimema couldn't find any regressions.. happy to sign it off.
09:15 marcelr great ashimema++
09:16 ashimema ps.. I've given up on loading the xslt's via https url.. basically decided it was too annoying a bug to fix our side.. so I wouldn't be upset if bug 12758 never made it in...
09:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12758 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Failure when loading or parsing XSLT stylesheets over HTTPS
09:16 ashimema thankyou for all your hard work in getting it to work with that workaround though..
09:16 ashimema it's plain annoying that libxml doesn't handle it correctly in the first place.
09:17 marcelr yes
09:18 marcelr i think that if you would not pursue that one, there will not be much others?
09:18 ashimema Yeah.. I think your right.
09:18 ashimema I'm happy to also test it and sign that off if you think it sohuld make it into koha though..
09:18 ashimema but wonder if I'm just a bit of a fring use case..
09:18 marcelr it is somewhat arbitrary
09:19 ashimema indeed
09:19 marcelr do not like the workaround thing really
09:19 ashimema me either..
09:20 ashimema I think leave the bug there so if anyone does run into the issue they can find the fix.. but I wouldn't pollute koha with it yet..
09:20 marcelr agreed
09:22 * ashimema should probably get back to his rest authorization/authentication work now..
09:23 ashimema it somehow feels sloppy to be sending username:password combinations with every request.. but that's what rest expects really.
09:42 marcelr if anyone still has a issue with bug 11413, please step up now :) Almost ready..
09:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
09:51 marcelr well, no one did
09:51 marcelr Joubu++
09:51 Joubu marcelr: thanks!
09:51 nlegrand Hey #koha !
09:52 Joubu marcelr: bug 11395 will be easy to test when 11413 will be into master!
09:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch modifications for records
09:52 marcelr i hope to take bug 11395 but not today anymore ;)
09:53 marcelr any other from QA team may beat me to it
09:54 marcelr Joubu: what is the status of bug 11944 ?
09:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
09:54 Joubu marcelr: hum, passed qa? :)
09:54 marcelr i have a report now that might depend on it
09:54 Joubu marcelr: Actually, I don't know
09:55 marcelr ok i ask tomas
09:55 marcelr i thought he kept a branch for it
09:55 Joubu marcelr: Tomas don't want to push it without unit tests
09:55 Joubu doesn't
09:55 ashimema I passed qa on it a while back..
09:55 Joubu but nobody will write them
09:55 marcelr ok that waits for galen perhaps
09:56 ashimema but it was on the understanding that galen and tomas were still writing test for it as a seperate piece of work.
09:56 marcelr and he has no time obviously
09:56 ashimema you hit the nail on the head there.
09:56 marcelr not in his head hopefully
09:56 marcelr :)
09:56 ashimema :)
10:23 magnuse ashimema: i'd accept a patch to make kohadevbox use a trad dev install, i think :-)
10:23 ashimema I've got to work out how to do it first ;)
10:24 ashimema I'm fairly sure it's viable..
10:24 ashimema and achievable.. just not as straight forward to get up and running as gitify is ;)
10:26 magnuse true
10:26 magnuse which is why i chose gitified in the first place
10:26 magnuse thinking that i might want to switch to a dev install later
10:27 magnuse the koha-* scripts are a huge boon for the gitified setup, though
10:27 magnuse i wonder if we could make them work with a dev install?
10:28 magnuse link koha-conf.xml to where the scripts expect to find them, or something?
10:34 ashimema that would certainly be nice..
10:34 ashimema I agree..
10:35 ashimema though I think it woudl be harder than that... we would also need to change what scripts they call..
10:35 ashimema mostly they are wrappers to existing scripts that get installed all over the place in a prod install.
10:37 magnuse true
10:37 magnuse probably not doable...
10:38 magnuse could we do both? have both a dev install and a gitified install running out of the same git repo and using the same database? just a crazy thought...
10:39 ashimema ooh.. perhaps..
10:39 ashimema but.. you'dse probably want to do some clever pinning and the like with the repo code..
10:39 ashimema the issue with gitified is that you end up with a bunch of mismatched scripts running
10:42 magnuse there is an issue for this, btw: https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/issues/46 Gitify or traditional dev install?
10:48 ashimema oh cool
10:48 ashimema ythank
10:54 drojf hi #koha
11:25 cait hi drojf :)
11:25 cait are you studying?
11:25 drojf hi cait :)
11:25 drojf yep
12:28 tcohen morning!
12:28 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:28 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 28.7°C (9:25 AM ART on November 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #161: FAILURE in 1 min 28 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/161/
12:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13075: (followup) remove remaining warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=900670bd3bd3d1984dbd23e86e78706ff15288f9> / Bug 13075: Silence warnings and improve Charset testing. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=878fa77c30732eb5f37f9bd050286b10b74fb881> / Bug 12779: Capitalization on add/edit subscription form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi
12:45 oleonard Hi #koha
12:53 tcohen hi oleonard
13:21 tcohen gmcharlt?
13:21 wahanui somebody said gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
13:21 tcohen where did he move to?
13:22 tcohen #koha does anyone remember if Galen changed timezone?
13:22 tcohen also, does anyone want to try Google Inbox?
13:24 oleonard tcohen: He did change time zone (Atlanta, GA -- US Eastern time zone), but I don't know where he is in the move process.
13:25 tcohen oh, thanks oleonard
13:25 * tcohen adjusts his clock widgets
13:25 oleonard tcohen: Does your country do daylight savings time?
13:26 tcohen sometimes
13:26 tcohen we are not consistent
13:26 oleonard Sounds confusing!
13:26 tcohen heh
13:27 tcohen we stopped using it
13:27 tcohen a couple years back
13:28 cait tcohen: a lot of people here would agree with this decision i think
13:29 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:29 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #218: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/218/
13:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13253 - Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: introduce XSLT scripts to remove items and links
13:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: (qa followup) document the existence of the sample files
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13253 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:29 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13232: Search patrons by a first letter should not redirect to a patron detail page
13:29 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 12779: Capitalization on add/edit subscription form
13:29 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13075: Silence warnings and improve Charset testing.
13:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13075: (followup) remove remaining warnings
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13232 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , patron letter browse not working
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12779 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Capitalization: strings on subscription add page
13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13075 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Use of uninitialized value while proving db_dependent/Holds.t
13:30 cait the sound of freshly pushed patches... or the smell? the sight? :)
13:31 oleonard Do freshly pushed patches smell like freshly baked pie?
13:32 cait hm sounds plausible
13:35 oleonard Joubu: Bug 13234 should be put back to "Signed off" shouldn't it?
13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Make on-site checkouts visible in OPAC
13:37 cait oleonard: sounds good to me
13:37 cait i was wondering this morning why it didn't show in my queue .)
13:41 olawale Hello everyone
13:41 olawale Please, i need help on koha installation
13:42 oleonard olawale: What instructions are you following?
13:43 olawale someone actually sent me a document but it not working
13:43 olawale i am at the point of running the web installer but when I typed localhost :8080 it was index page that came up
13:43 oleonard olawale: Are you installing using packages?
13:44 olawale yes, from the terminal
13:44 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
13:44 cait olawale: it might be staff or intra andnot 8080 if you are installing from packages
13:45 cait does someone know what the current default is?
13:45 oleonard tcohen: FYI, Bug 13255
13:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13255 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On-site checkout due date wrong if SpecifyDueDate is disabled
13:47 tcohen f**k
13:48 olawale Oleonard: I didnt get that please
13:49 oleonard olawale: I suggest you review the link I posted above, especially the parts about configuring Apache
13:49 olawale Oleonard: okay...I will un-install this one and try the link you sent....May I have your email incase i run into issue??... Thanks
13:50 oleonard olawale: If the procedure you followed before matches what those instructions tell you then there isn't any need to uninstall
13:51 oleonard ...but it's up to you. Sometimes it's easier just to start from the beginning.
13:53 olawale Oleonard : The procedure I followed before says I should Edit configuration file: $ sudo vi /etc/apache2/sites-available/library Change intranet port to: *:8080 When I copied and pasted the command on the terminal it was a blank file that came up.
13:54 olawale Oleonard: I need to do this before i can install the web installer but there was no where to change the port to 8080 since the file is empty
13:55 tcohen oleonard: do u plan to work on it?
13:55 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:55 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #162: FIXED in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/162/
13:55 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13253 - Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:55 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: introduce XSLT scripts to remove items and links
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13253 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary white space above checkouts table in circulation
13:55 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6681: (qa followup) document the existence of the sample files
13:55 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13232: Search patrons by a first letter should not redirect to a patron detail page
13:55 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 12779: Capitalization on add/edit subscription form
13:55 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13075: Silence warnings and improve Charset testing.
13:55 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13075: (followup) remove remaining warnings
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13232 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , patron letter browse not working
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12779 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Capitalization: strings on subscription add page
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13075 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Use of uninitialized value while proving db_dependent/Holds.t
13:55 oleonard tcohen: I will see what I can find out.
13:56 tcohen it probably is a template problem
13:56 tcohen jenkins_koha: it was never broken
13:56 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'it'
13:56 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
14:04 nengard anyone having an issue fetching from git?
14:04 nengard fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
14:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13220 - Shipment date not saved when creating an invoice which has a duplicated... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51601176c6ad9ff5bfc73502b472d4647bab96f1> / Bug 13226: 9999-12-31 should not considered as a valid date <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57dff1e63f5778a427390215f82909a82f54eccd> / Bug 11401: dependency updates <http://git.koha-community.org/g
14:04 tcohen try again?
14:07 nengard tcohen same
14:08 cait what command are you using?
14:08 nengard git fetch
14:08 oleonard I'm having trouble too nengard
14:08 nengard oh good
14:08 oleonard :P
14:08 nengard :)
14:08 nengard don't want to be alone!
14:08 cait maybe git is overwhelmed :)
14:08 nengard maybe
14:08 tcohen it's a problem with the HTTP layer
14:09 oleonard USA IN GIT BLACKOUT!
14:09 * oleonard panics
14:09 cait woohoo tcohen++ magnuse++
14:09 nengard well i have plenty to document while i wait to do a new fetch
14:09 * nengard doesn't panic
14:09 nengard :)
14:09 olawale oleonard: will the instruction work for ubuntu 14.04 ??...I read it has been tested for version 12.04 ??
14:10 oleonard olawale: I assume so
14:10 olawale okie
14:10 olawale tanx
14:10 tcohen olawale: there's a note about 14.04 on the appendix
14:11 cait about bug 13225 - if we don't get it fixed, maybe we could make the prefs depend with a note at least?
14:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13225 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 result Card View doesn't work for UNIMARC
14:12 cait yes... wrong bug number, again
14:13 cait the one for specify due date and in-house
14:13 cait stubborn feature that
14:21 Joubu cait: I will try to have a look next week
14:24 magnuse rangi++ tcohen++ cait++ eythian++ woohoo! bug 11401
14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
14:27 cait Joubu: have a nice weekend :)
14:29 Joubu cait: not in w-e yet, but I would like to finish some stuffs before
14:32 magnuse have fun, #koha!
14:35 oleonard Bug 13255 is not a template-only problem unfortunately, because circulation.pl won't even look at a "custom" due date if SpecifyDueDate is turned off.
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13255 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On-site checkout due date wrong if SpecifyDueDate is disabled
14:38 * oleonard added a comment to the bug.
14:39 Joubu thanks oleonard
14:40 tcohen Joubu: will u take on it?
14:41 cait Joubu: the good wishes still count :)
14:42 Joubu tcohen: yes, next week
14:42 tcohen thx
14:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #582 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #582: SUCCESS in 2 min 53 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/582/
14:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update xslt appendix
14:50 marcelr hi again
14:50 tcohen Jouburc
14:50 tcohen hi marcelr
14:51 marcelr hi tcohen
14:52 tcohen zeno and paola are working on regression tests for the UTF8 patches
14:52 marcelr ok
14:53 marcelr will they make it for 3.18?
14:54 tcohen good question
14:54 marcelr :)
14:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13082: fix to prevent adding of invalid records in marc file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59b7744e1c14da3e9fcd662fd128957ac0d2bf13> / Bug 7988: Make note on authorized values page less confusing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4a5d0c561c5e851aed940ddc9ffb8ef37921984> / Bug 13207: "Branch" on basket summary page should be "Library" <http://git.koha-com
14:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha Docs 3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha Docs 3.16.x build #5: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha%20Docs%203.16.x/5/
14:55 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update xslt appendix
14:58 cait hm we still also need to fix local accounts for ldap and not being able to have multiple notices with the same code
14:58 tcohen cait: bugs?
14:59 wahanui i think bugs is http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/44776341195/bug-reports-after-a-new-release
14:59 cait bug 12831
14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled
15:01 cait bug 13215
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13215 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , letter.code is considered as a primary key
15:01 tcohen ashimema: comments on the status od 12831?
15:03 cait i think noone is actively working on it - which is bad, because even if the behaviour was a bug... it will still break a lot of workflows :(
15:04 cait well thebehaviour is not the bug, but the reason why it worked - if i understood correctly
15:06 * tcohen is pissed we still don't have tab-completion for git-bz :-P
15:06 tcohen and also because of 12831
15:08 cait heh
15:14 tcohen i was also pissed I had to read the update_dbix_class_files.pl code to remember the parameters, but that's solved now
15:14 * tcohen loves RM powers :-P
15:14 marcelr be careful
15:15 tcohen marcelr: indeed
15:15 tcohen marcelr: for the tab-completion, I'll just attach it to the wiki, don't worry :D
15:16 marcelr tabs and spaces..
15:16 marcelr you can have wars about them
15:16 tcohen heh
15:16 tcohen i mean git bz <tab>
15:17 marcelr ok; every so many years you should change your indentation rules :)
15:18 * oleonard grumbles
15:18 tcohen i think i'm missing something
15:27 tcohen hey, wouldn't we save several bytes per file if we switched to tabs?
15:27 marcelr good idea !
15:27 marcelr lets do it rightaway
15:28 * tcohen_flame-mode has a super-sed command that can do it
15:28 marcelr maybe some other changes as well?
15:28 oleonard Too long.
15:28 marcelr too bad
15:28 oleonard Anyway, I think we should switch to an HTML 3.2 doctype
15:29 oleonard HTML5 is just too new and scary
15:29 marcelr yeah
15:29 oleonard I'm concerned that we don't support Netscape 3
15:29 tcohen_flame-mode heh
15:29 tcohen_flame-mode my custom curl + grep client is not working with the staff interface
15:30 * oleonard reimplements the templates using tables and font tags
15:31 tcohen_flame-mode templates?
15:31 wahanui templates are written in Template::Toolkit.
15:31 tcohen_flame-mode we can make use of "print" inside perl scripts
15:32 marcelr why use modules and objects anyway?
15:32 tcohen_flame-mode ooohhhhh
15:33 oleonard The Koha file system would be a lot simpler if we just used one big script.
15:33 tcohen_flame-mode cait: i have a oneliner that can take care of the whole holdings code
15:33 marcelr can your sed script removes holds
15:33 marcelr ?
15:33 tcohen_flame-mode of course!
15:33 tcohen_flame-mode i store them on a big flat file
15:34 tcohen_flame-mode so everyone can have their own script for CRUD, no silly APIs to use
15:34 Joubu rm **/*.t; cat **/*.pm **/*.pl > koha.pl
15:35 marcelr all code in one script !
15:35 marcelr 2 zillion lines
15:35 marcelr i worked with such stuff
15:35 tcohen_flame-mode maybe we even win a Guiness record prize!
15:36 Joubu wc koha.pl
15:36 Joubu 522419 1773067 16007073 koha.pl
15:36 tcohen_flame-mode my colleages are worried about how loud i'm laughing right now
15:37 marcelr tell them it is friday
15:37 tcohen_flame-mode they are used to this heh
15:38 cait :)
15:38 * cait waves to the coworkers
15:38 cait say hi to augustin if he is still around? :)
15:40 tcohen he says hi :-D
15:40 * ashimema feels like he just stepped into another universe
15:41 oleonard ashimema: Are you saying that running Koha over telnet *isn't* the best way to go?!
15:41 tcohen lower latency
15:42 tcohen placeholders?
15:42 wahanui placeholders are important, but not universally used
15:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #230: UNSTABLE in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/230/
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: Add support for Norwegian national library card
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: QA followup - fix pod
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: QA followup
15:43 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 11401: QA followup - Make the tests pass
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: DBRev 3.17.00.055
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: DBIx updates
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: dependency updates
15:43 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13226: 9999-12-31 should not considered as a valid date
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference
15:43 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 13220 - Shipment date not saved when creating an invoice which has a duplicated number
15:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13257: update_dbix_class_files.pl need a POD
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13220 major, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Shipment date not saved when creating an invoice which has a duplicated number
15:43 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 10136: Remove outdated translation tool docs
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13257 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , update_dbix_class_files.pl need a POD
15:43 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 13207: "Branch" on basket summary page should be "Library"
15:43 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 7988: Make note on authorized values page less confusing
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10136 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , misc/translator/translator_doc.html outdated
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13207 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Branch:" on basket page should read "Library:"
15:43 jenkins_koha * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 13082: fix to prevent adding of invalid records in marc file
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7988 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , warning on authorized values confusing
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13082 normal, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , tools/export.pl fix to forbid adding of all invalid records
15:46 tcohen oleonard, cait: how can we make this sound better?
15:46 tcohen "More than 99 copies will be added. Should they be added?"
15:47 tcohen "You are about to add XXXX items. Continue?"
15:47 cait Ask for confirmation when more than 99 copies would be added ?
15:47 cait ah, for the bug title or in Koha?
15:47 tcohen nope
15:47 tcohen is the string the patch introduces
15:47 tcohen i'm not convinced by the text
15:47 cait hm better ask a native speaker :)
15:48 tcohen oleonard: ?
15:48 tcohen Joubu: aren't you british now?
15:48 oleonard I like "You are about to add XXXX items. Continue?" but is that difficult to translate because of the XXXX?
15:48 tcohen heh, XXXX would be the amount the user entered
15:49 oleonard Yes I know, but a variable inside the string
15:49 tcohen we can use a javascript placeholder?
15:51 tcohen oleonard: deal? "You are about to add XXXX items. Continue?"
15:52 oleonard Sounds good to me.
15:54 Joubu tcohen: not yet, sorry.
15:54 tcohen :-P
15:54 Joubu (I don't eat enough chedar...)
15:57 oleonard Hi paul_p
15:57 paul_p hi oleonard (irc connection from Jerusalem ;-) )
15:57 tcohen paul_p! Jerusalem!
15:58 * tcohen misses that magical city!
15:58 paul_p tcohen yep, THE jerusalem ;-)
15:58 oleonard paul_p: The other day I saw someone here in Athens who looked so much like you that for a split second I really thought you were here
15:59 oleonard paul_p: I couldn't understand why you would come to Athens and not tell me!
15:59 paul_p oleonard I confirm it was not me ;-)
15:59 oleonard :)
16:00 tcohen http://snag.gy/EAoI0.jpg
16:00 * tcohen does that kind of thing
16:02 tcohen cait, oleonard: looks good?
16:02 oleonard Yes
16:03 cait yes
16:03 tcohen Continue vs. Confirm?
16:04 tcohen Continue
16:04 oleonard Continue
16:04 tcohen 2 vs uncertain, Continue
16:05 tcohen it is still adding those 10001 items :/
16:06 cait hm wasn't that the intention? that if you say yes, it shoud?
16:06 tcohen the dialog actually asks for confirmation
16:07 cait ah, so it does when you say cancel?
16:08 tcohen oh, it works, I was just testing it worked if i pushed "Ok" :-P
16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10473: (RM followup) small wording change <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63dd425a46de599be25bb2ccb10bd3726d355de8> / Bug 10473: Get rif of the placeholder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a13e859c6ecf62e64d6ebab0c45f78d8e1f2b73> / Bug 10473 - Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
16:22 Joubu oleonard, tcohen: patch submited on bug 13255. Quite dirty but should be efficient
16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13255 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , On-site checkout due date wrong if SpecifyDueDate is disabled
16:23 Joubu have a good w-e #koha
16:27 oleonard You too Joubu
16:35 gcb Quick question...
16:35 marcelr bye all
16:35 gcb Running 3.16.04 Debian package on squeeze. When editing an item, "Lost Status" (1) has disappeared from that screen. It now goes from "0 - Withdrawn status" to "2 - Source of classification or..." Was this a purposeful change or bug?
16:44 oleonard gcb: That sounds familiar but I don't see it in my test system
16:45 gcb could it be a system pref I'm missing?
16:48 oleonard Bug 5533
16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, P3, ---, srdjan, CLOSED FIXED, marking item lost diff in two places
16:48 oleonard "New installations will not see this status in the editor, unless they manually activate it."
16:49 oleonard Marking something lost through the item editor doesn't consistently trigger the same actions which happen if you mark it lost through catalogue/moredetail.pl (adding fines, removing from patron's account)
16:52 gcb These aren't new items and the option to mark it lost is not available either. Could this be something to do with the "SubfieldsToUseWhenPrefill" pref?
16:52 oleonard gcb: It has to do with your MARC framework
16:55 gcb Hmmm... 952$1 is included in the marc framework for books. I am using the defaults loaded with the package.
16:56 oleonard Administration -> MARC bibliographic framework -> MARC structure -> 952 -> Subfields -> 1 -> Advanced constraints
17:00 gcb It seems to be configured exactly the same as subfield 0 Withdrawn status which does show up in the item edit window.
17:01 oleonard Sorry gcb maybe I've got it wrong.
17:02 gcb That's OK...I'm happy to get any ideas! :-)
17:10 gcb Looks like the same thing may have happened back in 3.6. Lost status can't be changed from the edit item screen, only from the "Items" button on the left of the bibl record. Sounds like that behaviour was changed back in 3.8...and now it's changed again!
17:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #231: NOW UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/231/
17:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 13064 - Indexing problem with ICU on control characters
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Change the field number logic
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: UT to show up the issue
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Reflect the changes to the interface
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Fix return for ModifyRecordWithTemplate
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13064 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Indexing problem with ICU on control characters
17:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11413: Fix field_numbers
17:11 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10473 - Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
17:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10473: Get rif of the placeholder
17:12 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10473: (RM followup) small wording change
17:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10473 normal, P3, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Prompt for confirmation if more than 99 items are being added
17:39 tcohen :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WHN-pAFCs
17:45 oleonard Wow processing offline circs is REALLY slow in my test system. I wonder if that is new...
18:01 tcohen oleonard: maybe we cannot compute the answer to that question
18:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=348bca3dbb200627b3f3fd3ae9aae2d012892ecd>
19:14 oleonard tools/holidays.pl is completely broken for me in master
19:15 oleonard I've got a completely blank page except for the word "Sundays"
19:18 oleonard Crap. git blames Bug 12986 :(
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12986 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Upgrade the DataTables jQuery plugin to the latest version
19:19 oleonard Can anyone else confirm?
19:20 oleonard Also: Renewal due dates are broken
19:20 * oleonard sets fire to his VM and walks away
19:27 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:27 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #232: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/232/
19:27 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
19:28 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:28 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #221: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/221/
19:28 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:31 mveron Hi #koha
19:31 mveron @wunder allschwil
19:31 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 9.5°C (8:31 PM CET on November 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
19:38 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:38 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #239: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/239/
19:38 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add support for Norwegian national library card
19:39 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:39 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #165: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/165/
19:39 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11401: (followup) make tests run on absent deps
19:52 oleonard Why would the checkout of an item from one library have a different due date than a checkout of an item from another?
19:52 cait hm
19:52 oleonard Testing with blank circ rules
19:52 cait oh
19:53 cait i thought we had a hardcoded one
19:53 cait alll rules are empty empty?
19:53 oleonard Sorry I don't mean completely blank...
19:53 oleonard I mean I have one rule set up for all libraries, all item types.
19:55 oleonard Checking out from Branch A, items from Branch A, B, C, and D get one due date. Items from branch E get another.
19:55 cait weird
19:59 oleonard ...in 3.14.x, 3.16.x, and master.
19:59 oleonard And with that, it's time for the weekend. Maybe my computer just needs a rest.
19:59 cait too fast!
20:00 cait have a nice weekend oleonard :)
20:13 * magnuse waves
20:13 druthb magnuse!
20:13 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
20:13 magnuse druthb!
20:14 druthb :)
20:15 druthb hm.
20:15 druthb wahanui: druthb?
20:15 wahanui well, druthb is more trouble than she's worth.
20:15 druthb thought so.
20:15 magnuse druthb!
20:15 wahanui druthb is more trouble than she's worth.
20:16 magnuse druthb?
20:16 wahanui druthb is more trouble than she's worth.
20:16 magnuse gotta be true, then
20:16 druthb I know, right?
20:16 druthb I've long though so; this is just proof.
20:17 magnuse if it is on the interwebs it's gotta be true...
20:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #583 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #583: SUCCESS in 2 min 52 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/583/
20:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add SubfieldsToAllowForRestricted prefs
20:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add edit_items_restricted permission
20:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #584 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #584: SUCCESS in 1 min 59 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/584/
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add delete_all_items permission
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add link to edit_items_restricted permission
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add items_batchmod_restricted permission
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add link to items_batchmod_restricted
20:32 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add LocalHoldsPriority, LocalHoldsPriorityPatronControl, LocalHoldsPriorityItemControl
22:07 wnickc anyone around for a permissions question?
22:10 wnickc why would a user have multiple values for a single code in the user_permissions table
22:14 tcohen hi
22:18 MWCJPP Hey Everyone.
22:18 wahanui it has been said that everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
22:18 MWCJPP I have a question about Koha Versions.
22:19 MWCJPP When I go to http://koha-community.org I'm seeing an option to download version 3.16
22:20 MWCJPP But the about us portion of our install tells me that my version is 4.09.
22:20 MWCJPP Am I on the wrong website?
22:22 rangi you dont have koha then, you have the liblime fork, that was originally based on koha 6 years ago
22:23 rangi the lastest release is 3.16.4 ... 3.18.0 is being released on november 22nd
22:24 rangi liblime decided to use the 4.xx numbers .. when they forked, just to confuse people, seems like it worked :)
22:26 rangi wnickc: i cant think of a legit reason, sounds like a bug, if you change permissions does it fix it?
22:26 MWCJPP Thanks @rangi
22:28 wnickc rangi:yup, if I remove the permissionit all clears and I get one value upon replacing it
22:29 rangi so perhaps an old bug, thats since been fixed but left some cruft
22:30 tcohen hi rangi
22:30 wnickc thanks rangi, not a big deal, just required a'DISTINCT'
22:30 wnickc trying to make a readable permissions report
22:32 rangi heya tcohen
22:34 * magnuse waves sleepily
22:35 * mveron waves sleepily back... after doing a lot of translations... and says god night / daytime to everybody...
22:36 magnuse translations... ouch!
22:38 magnuse hooray for having only 1 opac file to translate, and for the help files being in a separate .po!
22:38 rangi yep :)
22:43 tcohen bgkriegel++
22:43 magnuse yeah bgkriegel++
22:45 magnuse i should have tested the patch that splits out the marcflavours into separate files
22:45 magnuse if i had more time...
22:45 magnuse hope to get around to it in 2015
22:46 magnuse kia ora papa
22:46 magnuse ooh, just over 5 years since i got my first patch in koha
22:47 magnuse the national patron db stuff should bring me up to 100 i think :-)
22:47 rangi nice :)
22:47 magnuse net goal: 1000
22:47 magnuse s/net/next/
22:50 magnuse and maybe 2015 will be the year of semantic Koha? :-)
22:51 magnuse time to catch some sleep - have fun #koha!
22:56 mtj hey #koha
22:56 mtj rangi, are you about still?
23:00 mtj ..i was about to submit the carousel thingy for the opac, and wanted to ask about dbix
23:02 mtj is dbix mandatory now?
23:04 mtj tcohen, any idea on dbix policy? ^
23:04 tcohen dbic mandatory
23:05 tcohen we have an undecided situation on "how to use it"
23:05 tcohen but please use dbic
23:15 mtj hiya tcohen, thanks :0)
23:16 tcohen and you shouldn't use it on .pl scripts
23:16 mtj ..i thought as much, just thought i would confirm with you
23:16 tcohen use a package to provide the needed api
23:16 mtj yes, understood
23:21 tcohen https://ukutabs.com/t/the-cure/friday-im-in-love/
23:21 tcohen :-D
23:37 tcohen_ bye tcohen