Time  Nick          Message
23:28 cait          yep
23:27 cait          sec
23:27 tcohen        i mean, cait
23:26 tcohen        (i.e. the other way around)
23:26 tcohen        katrina: doesn't 8908 block 12173?
23:25 tcohen        \o/
23:25 tcohen        =D
23:24 eythian       cool
23:24 tcohen_       already installed on jenkins nodes
23:24 tcohen_       thanks for the json-escape package
23:24 tcohen_       eythian: :-P
23:24 tcohen_       dcook: i'll go for an XSLT registry
23:24 eythian       you said it first
23:23 tcohen_       hey, don't be rude
23:22 eythian       yeah, tcohen. Logout!
23:21 tcohen_       logout tcohen
23:21 tcohen_       rangi: damn
23:20 rangi         :)
23:20 rangi         yes, but im going to lunch
23:20 eythian       tcohen_: nope
23:20 tcohen_       am i online?
23:17 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
23:17 wahanui       bug 8908 is where I reported it, but I don't see a patch.
23:17 tcohen        bug 8908
23:17 dcook         cool, eythian :)
23:17 dcook         Who, wha?
23:16 tcohen        i guess all of us will hang if we meet a zombie zebra
23:07 cait          wb tcohen
23:06 tcohen        hi eythian
23:06 eythian       bonjour, tcohen
23:05 wahanui       bonjour, tcohen
23:05 tcohen        hi
22:57 eythian       https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/schedule/ <-- dcook, here's the whole schedule
22:50 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
22:50 cait          @later tell mtj can you take a look at bug 8866 please?
22:49 eythian       I totally have no opinion, mtj needs to explain what he's talking about there.
22:49 cait          eythian: ?
22:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS
22:48 cait          would someone be opposed to closing bug 8866?
22:38 mtompset      Nice abridged code of conduct. :)
22:36 dcook         "Penetration Testing Java applications for Fun and Profit"
22:36 eythian       I'm eyeing up the SDR training thing
22:35 dcook         I love the names of these sessions
22:35 eythian       cool
22:35 rangi         and jay at ndha matched me, with 2 more
22:35 dcook         Also, who knew that leaving the country reset certain bureaucratic counters...
22:35 rangi         i also sponsored tickets for 2 librarians
22:35 rangi         eythian: im doing this one https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/training/#e119
22:35 dcook         Probably no travel for this guy until after July
22:34 dcook         eythian: Alas, not this time
22:34 eythian       dcook: yeah, I saw it when it was released, it's quite well done
22:34 wizzyrea      <---
22:34 wizzyrea      you could foist them off on some one else ;)
22:34 dcook         eythian: I love the style though. I recall you linking to the source for it I think..
22:34 rangi         having skived off when the conf is on
22:34 eythian       dcook: coming to kiwicon I assume?
22:34 rangi         i think ill be doing kids duty
22:33 wizzyrea      how could you say no.
22:33 eythian       BBQ in a fortress!
22:33 rangi         oh, hmm no ihavent
22:33 rangi         eythian: i have
22:32 dcook         That moment when you write a comment on Bugzilla and you expect it to go to 5 people but it goes to at least 20.
22:32 eythian       https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/events/#e148 <-- rangi, got your ticket for this?
22:08 eythian       g'day cait, mtompset
22:04 cait          hi mtompset
22:03 mtompset      Greetings, cait. :)
22:03 mtompset      Greetings, eythian. :)
22:00 cait          morning
22:00 eythian       hi
21:35 huginn        BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (8:00 AM AEDT on November 11, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
21:35 BobB          @wunder sydney, australia
21:34 huginn        BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
21:34 BobB          @wunder sydney nsw
21:33 BobB          hi cait
21:32 cait          hi BobB
21:26 BobB          hi
20:16 * cait        growls at cataloguing stats
20:14 ashimema      (which reminds me.. I should poke at pianohacker to add tocken support to the Koha::Services patches he's working on ;) )
20:14 ashimema      indeed.. it's a REST api I'm attempting to add such authentication too
20:13 ashimema      haha... lol.
20:13 * ashimema    has been getting a sore head allot of late
20:13 ashimema      will get there in the end I'm sure..  just another piece to hit my head against
20:13 jcamins       [left as an exercise for the user]
20:13 jcamins       I tell you from hard-won and painfully endured experience, cookie-based authentication for REST APIs is like replacing all the sugar in a cookie with rat poison.
20:13 ashimema      but I'm stuggling to get my head around implimenting them ;)
20:12 ashimema      I'm thinking that..
20:12 jcamins       ashimema: tokens are better.
20:11 ashimema      it's just making me want to eat cookie s ;)
20:11 ashimema      Not bad.. trying to get my head around tocken based authentication vs cookies..
20:11 rangi         not too bad, and you?
20:11 ashimema      s/ti/it
20:10 ashimema      hey rangi.. how goes ti
20:10 rangi         hi ashimema
20:10 ashimema      evening #koha
20:01 * cait        tries to fix something in one of the old reports
20:01 cait          wow
19:53 learn_koha    o... i know why i can not login, because i do have permission...   do you know how to bulk update permission?
19:51 cait          unless you are using the databaes user, which you should not :)
19:51 cait          it does
19:50 learn_koha    but this is my staff account,      staff account seems not to login opac ?
19:49 cait          learn_koha: easiest is to change it via the opac
19:46 learn_koha    hi,  why can i not find out where i can change my own password in staff site ?
19:42 kathryn       hello cait :)
19:42 cait          good morning kathryn
19:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10136 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , misc/translator/translator_doc.html outdated
19:40 cait          bug 10136
19:39 cait          bub 10136
19:35 rangi         yay
19:35 cait          i will make a quick patch thn
19:35 cait          ok
19:35 rangi         outdated doc is worse than no docs
19:35 rangi         yes
19:35 cait          should we remove them?
19:35 cait          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/translator/translator_doc.txt;h=67e01809db1e4c92ce5dc560986aea63c2d4f83c;hb=aa37fbfd53b45ff285a2cffee8d7110aaa824cfa
19:35 cait          we have some very outdated docs about the tranlsation scripts
19:34 wahanui       question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
19:34 cait          hm question
19:30 bag           HA
19:30 cait          if you do... ask if they need training too? :)
19:30 cait          heh
19:30 rangi         if anyone has a contact there, you can tell them, ill upgrade them for free, if they fly me over :-)
19:29 rangi         good old version 2
19:29 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12359 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , hidepatronname doesn't hide on the holds queue
19:29 cait          ok, patch is on bug 12359 - not sure about the feature itself, opinions welcome :)
19:29 rangi         heh looks like it
19:29 rangi         http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov:8000/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
19:28 rangi         does anyone know if the archives in hawaii are still using koha?
19:28 cait          but i agree
19:28 cait          it would be broken if it changed between runs of the holds queue script i think
19:26 rangi         then the link will be broken
19:26 rangi         cardnumber can change
19:26 rangi         cait: it should be borrowernumber
19:24 cait          nothing about the log in :)
19:24 cait          it's a link in the staff interface...
19:23 mtompset      But for linking data, I would expect borrower number over cardnumber.
19:23 mtompset      Just some thoughts.
19:23 mtompset      cardnumber is external visible by default. borrower number is not.
19:22 mtompset      mmm... perhaps because you can log in by cardnumber or username, not borrower number?
19:22 cait          hm i have a patch - people can test and tell :)
19:22 bag           yeah I agree with that cait :)
19:21 cait          not sure either - but borrowernumber seems more standard
19:21 bag           I think borrowernumber seems more consistent
19:21 bag           yup it does seem unusual (I would say that displaying the cardnumber is important - who really cares how you link it? - except speed impact?)
19:20 cait          instead of the borrowernumber
19:20 cait          it does - but using it for th elink to the patron account seems unusual
19:20 bag           cait does it display the cardnumber?
19:18 cait          is ther a good reason to use the cardnumber for linking on the holds queue??
19:14 rangi         heh
19:14 wahanui       #koha has karma of 5
19:14 rangi         karma #koha
19:14 rangi         RowdyChildren: huginn gets reset each year (or just randomly also)
19:14 druthb        lol
19:14 cait          oh
19:14 jcamins       rangi: quick, better reset wahanui's karma counter lest someone take it too seriously!
19:14 wahanui       druthb has karma of 178
19:14 druthb        karma for druthb
19:13 rangi         you heard me you egg
19:13 wahanui       rangi: excuse me?
19:13 rangi         wahanui hasnt been reset
19:13 wahanui       cait has karma of 603
19:13 rangi         karma for cait
19:13 rangi         we have 2 karma counters
19:12 huginn        RowdyChildren: Highest karma: "cait" (162), "gmcharlt" (151), and "oleonard" (112).  Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-7).
19:12 RowdyChildren @karma
19:09 rangi         that is a great post
19:09 rangi         talljoy++
19:05 rangi         its an on my own time thing, as it's not annoying enough to pay to fix :) so it suffers from being last in the queue, but it will get there
19:05 talljoy       excellent
19:05 rangi         which would make that potentially true ;)
19:05 oleonard      Oh that'll be great rangi. Long time coming.
19:04 rangi         like you can do with extended attributes currently
19:03 rangi         one thing ive worked on, and is nearly finished is default permissions for a category
19:03 rangi         permissions are all that matter, for everything except circulation
19:03 talljoy       it's good practice. but won't stop you from doing anything if you are not set as staff.
19:02 rangi         oleonard: no, it doesnt matter at all
19:02 rangi         having the manual bookmarked will save you a lot of stress learn_koha :)
19:02 oleonard      "All staff members must be entered into Koha as patrons of the 'Staff' type'" ...is that accurate?
19:02 talljoy       yw!
19:01 learn_koha    ah ha ~  thanks to oleonard and talljoy !
19:00 talljoy       hola rangi
19:00 oleonard      Hi rangi
19:00 talljoy       unless you do not have permissions to set other staff permissions learn_koha
19:00 rangi         morning
19:00 oleonard      learn_koha: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/patronpermissions.html
19:00 talljoy       upper right side of the patron detail screen.
18:59 learn_koha    where is "permissions"?
18:58 talljoy       thanks cait.
18:58 talljoy       already posted?  yay!
18:58 talljoy       my blog?
18:58 cait          talljoy++ nice article :)
18:58 cait          :)
18:58 wahanui       manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
18:58 bag           manual?
18:57 talljoy       jinx cait
18:57 talljoy       Once you've added a new patron, you go to permissions
18:57 cait          you add a patron and then use more > permissions to give them the rights to use modules, log into the staff acount
18:57 learn_koha    who knows how i can mangae staff accounts (add new or edit) in koha site ?
18:56 wahanui       hi everyone, is there anyone here who might be able to shed some light on the Koha problem I'm having?
18:56 learn_koha    hi everyone,
18:26 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
18:26 magnuse       @wunder boo
18:25 tcohen        later!
18:16 cait          scarf!
18:16 bag           I had to wear a sweater today
18:16 bag           cold here too cait
18:16 huginn        bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 19.3°C (10:16 AM PST on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
18:16 bag           @weather 93102
18:12 cait          it's coooold!
18:12 huginn        cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
18:12 cait          @wunder Konstanz
18:10 mario         thanks bag
18:10 bag           welcome back mario
18:09 bag           sweet
18:08 nengard       yup - all better :)
18:08 bag           hmm..  something in there with an --abort ;)
18:08 bag           or you can just git reset --hard HEAD
18:08 bag           git rebase --abort
18:06 nengard       previous rebase directory /Users/nengard/manual/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given.
18:06 nengard       how do I solve this:
18:06 nengard       git help please :)
17:52 wahanui       :)
17:52 druthb        wahanui:  botsnack cookie
17:52 * druthb      takes it, offers some around to others.
17:52 * cait        hands druthb her own cookie jar
17:50 druthb        bag!  oleonard ate all the cookies!
17:50 bag           heya cait
17:49 cait          hola bag
17:49 * cait        gets another one
17:49 * druthb      pouts.
17:49 oleonard      But cait this jar is empty (now)
17:49 bag           hola
17:49 * cait        instructs oleonard to share with druthb
17:49 druthb        cookie!
17:47 * cait        hands the cookie jar to oleonard
17:47 cait          oh wow
17:46 oleonard      Yay, 3-hour budget meeting! Is over.
17:32 druthb        :)
17:32 cait          druthb!
17:31 druthb        cait!
17:31 * cait        waves
17:30 cait          magnuse++
17:11 gaetan_B      bye!
16:47 Joubu         for info, it's bank holiday in France tomorrow ;)
16:47 Joubu         See you #koha
16:04 reiveune      bye
15:58 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12448: (RM followup) fix bug number in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa37fbfd53b45ff285a2cffee8d7110aaa824cfa> / Bug 12986: Upgrade the DataTables jQuery plugin to the latest version (1.10.2) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=954c2874d0d9ebfa2e910dcd4445010115fac329> / Bug 9043: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
15:57 paul_p        hello #koha
15:20 huginn        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:20 tcohen        @later tell magnuse please contact me to check some things for the NL bug
15:08 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13211: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1b406a31f72962c7e644149ac438e604d59b674> / Bug 13211: (followup) remove 'masthead' reference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36199881d07ffc874d1c3c3eb152b35efbedbc9f> / Bug 13211: Added Google Indic Transliteration as a System Preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
14:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference
14:33 Joubu         Does someone have the same problem as oleonard on checkin (bug 13226)?
14:24 marcelr       see you later
14:20 tcohen        ah, I recall, the koha<->proxy connexion uses a self-signed SSL certificate too
14:20 tcohen        and use nginx in front of our stock koha-common setup
14:19 tcohen        we have a wildcard SSL certificate
14:19 ashimema      tcohen.. you reverse proxy.. intersting
14:19 ashimema      for google book jackets.. I don't think there is any solution without breaking their api terms and conditions (i.e. passing their data through a proxy or caching is not allowed I believe)
14:18 ashimema      otherwise I think everything works as expected..
14:18 ashimema      only issue outstnading I know of is mixed content warning on google book jackets..
14:17 ashimema      performance is a non-issue with it these days, computer are plain good at encryption ;)
14:17 tcohen        w've just discussed that with bgkriegel on the parking lot =D
14:17 ashimema      oleanard,marcelr.. all our sites run behind ssl (https)
14:17 ashimema      sounds good to me tcohen.
14:16 tcohen        so we know in which context the XSLT should be offered for use
14:16 tcohen        ashimema: not only key/value, I'd add information on what it expects and what its output would be
14:15 tcohen        (staff only for now)
14:14 tcohen        the 46 instances behind a reverse proxy
14:14 tcohen        oleonard: we do here
14:13 marcelr       just curious about performance issues
14:13 marcelr       i am in the process of going to ssl
14:12 oleonard      I'm curious how many of you run your Koha sites over SSL?
14:09 ashimema      cool
14:09 ashimema      it's basically just a key/value at that point
14:09 marcelr       can->could
14:09 marcelr       the code can come from a table
14:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow passing code to XSLT_Handler instead of filename
14:09 marcelr       bug 12973
14:09 ashimema      perhaps in their own table though.. as you'de expect there to be any number of XSLT's present
14:09 marcelr       yes, it is interesting
14:08 ashimema      Why not store the XSLT's themselves in the database.. like OPACUserCSS and similar sysprefs..
14:08 oleonard      I see
14:08 tcohen        (maybe outside koha's templates directory
14:07 tcohen        problem is we would be changing the current functionality, in which you can put whatever you want
14:05 * oleonard    says this without knowing how difficult it is to actually implement
14:04 oleonard      Would a check of the filesystem be an acceptable solution in the interim?
14:04 tcohen        but i'm not sure we can have it for the release
14:03 tcohen        (instead of the filesystem)
14:03 tcohen        probably on the DB
14:03 tcohen        oleonard: i think we need some sort of XSLT registry
14:02 oleonard      If it always looks in the same place, can we pull a list of existing files and make that a multi-select?
14:02 tcohen        me too
14:02 oleonard      tcohen: I'm concerned about the difficulty of knowing what to enter in that "XSLT File(s)" field in the Z39.50 server form
14:01 tcohen        +1
14:01 marcelr       +1
14:01 ashimema      :).. I'de go with oleonards.. thanks for chipping in :)
14:00 oleonard      I would take out the "/fixes" and replace "achieve" with "do"
14:00 oleonard      "When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes to those records. XSLT's allow you to do this. Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use."
13:59 marcelr       at least of english..
13:59 * marcelr     is no native speaker luckily :)
13:59 ashimema      :)
13:59 ashimema      In which case... my above amendments may prove slightly more explanatory.. oleonard care to comment as another native speaker?
13:59 tcohen        ashimema: you're right
13:58 ashimema      Import, takes you back to editor where you can change stuff.. the xslt's just automate some common modifications for you right?
13:58 ashimema      You can already make changes to the records manually can you not..?
13:57 ashimema      'When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes/fixes to those records. XSLT's allow you to achieved this; Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use:'
13:55 tcohen        thanks :-D
13:55 tcohen        ok
13:55 tcohen        does it look close to ok?
13:55 marcelr       tcohen: looks good to me
13:54 tcohen        marcelr, oleonard: http://snag.gy/mr5AD.jpg
13:48 tcohen        i want one!
13:47 ashimema      t-shirts sound good :)
13:47 drojf         oh a t-shirt :O
13:47 magnuse       Joubu: yup, i get the conflict when i apply 8133 on top of 11211
13:46 * oleonard    prints "Rockin' Wranglers" t-shirts for everyone
13:46 magnuse       drojf: sure you can wrangle without a title, but having 20 wranglers makes us look rock solid ;-)
13:25 Joubu         magnuse: did you see 8133 depends on 11211?
13:24 oleonard      Sorry I don't understand the bug well enough to comment right now
13:23 tcohen        something like "You can use 'Del952.xsl, Del9LinksExcept952.xsl' if you want to delete attached items and $9 links"
13:22 oleonard      That would certainly be the right place to start
13:21 tcohen        should I just put it on the help section?
13:21 tcohen        and I need to document (on the UI) that they are available as examples for usage
13:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported
13:21 tcohen        i'm adding some .xsl files on bug 6681
13:20 oleonard      I don't understand
13:20 tcohen        oleonard: can u help me figure where to put a note on the sample XSL files that could be used during Z/SRU import?
13:19 drojf         but i a still allowed to to that without a title, right ;)
13:17 drojf         too early for me to know about bug wrangling ;)
13:16 tcohen        magnuse++
13:15 magnuse       there, i added voting to the agenda http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_19_November_2014#Agenda
13:04 magnuse       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_19_November_2014
13:04 magnuse       next community meeting would probably be ok for voting?
13:04 magnuse       the only role missing is 3.16.x rmaint?
13:01 tcohen        cait has been doing a lot
13:01 drojf         when are we going to vote?
12:59 * magnuse     hopes more people will sign up for bug wrangling
12:59 magnuse       lol
12:59 tcohen        crazy_people++
12:56 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:56 marcelr       tcohen++ #for another RM term..
12:55 marcelr       hi tcohen
12:55 tcohen        eythian++
12:55 huginn        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:55 tcohen        @later tell eythian, thanks!
12:55 tcohen        morning!
12:07 ashimema      we're suddenly finding book jackets not working well in one of our apps.
12:06 ashimema      anyone here happen to know if google books changed their api recently..
12:04 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
12:04 ashimema      @later tell eythian thanks for looking at the SIP bug so quickly when you got back :)
10:47 magnuse       the script that lets you edit the calendar, calendar.pl seems to work as it should
10:46 magnuse       when i run this, Calendar.t is the only one that fails: $ sudo koha-shell -c "prove t/db_dependent/C*.t" kohadev
10:44 magnuse       i'm on a gitified setup, maybe that is doing it...
10:44 magnuse       gah!
10:43 Joubu         (same for t/db_dependent/Holidays.t)
10:43 Joubu         All tests successful.
10:43 Joubu         t/db_dependent/Calendar.t .. ok
10:43 Joubu         11211 on top of master
10:42 Joubu         magnuse: I don't get this error
10:41 cait          magnuse: hm ormaybe a dependency?
10:40 cait          Joubu++ thx
10:40 magnuse       it has "use C4::Calendar;"
10:40 Joubu         magnuse: I suspect a use missing in the test file
10:39 magnuse       which seems weird
10:39 magnuse       i get this: Undefined subroutine &main::ModRepeatingEvent called at t/db_dependent/Calendar.t line 22.
10:38 cait          magnuse: i am not sure, it's normally one of the first things I do - i think theymight have run ok, but not sure
10:38 magnuse       no, when testing 11211
10:38 cait          aah
10:38 cait          on master?
10:37 magnuse       cait: can you remember if you got the tests in t/db_dependent/Calendar.t and t/db_dependent/Holidays.t to run?
10:37 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
10:37 * magnuse     looks quizzically at bug 11211
09:26 Viktor        Kia ora magnuse!
09:25 magnuse       kia ora Viktor
09:03 cait          ok, timeto leave :)
08:57 drojf         [off] magnuse: i considered that to make it go away :P
08:56 magnuse       drojf: voluteer for it if you like? ;-)
08:51 drojf         what happened to the position of live-cd manager? *hides*
08:50 magnuse       yay!
08:49 drojf         woohoo
08:48 cait          getting a new kitchen this week! *squee*
08:48 cait          :)
08:46 marcelr       hi cait
08:45 drojf         hi cait
08:45 magnuse       guten morgen cait - have fun!
08:43 cait          and bye all :) off work today :)
08:43 cait          hi all
08:42 magnuse       yay for http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.20 - now a ll we need is a 3.16.x maint!
08:42 drojf         true
08:41 magnuse       hiya marcelr and drojf
08:41 marcelr       long time no see?
08:40 drojf         hi marcelr
08:40 marcelr       hi drojf magnuse
08:35 drojf         hi magnuse
08:33 * magnuse     waves
08:18 wahanui       what's up, gaetan_B
08:18 gaetan_B      hello
08:17 drojf         good morning #koha
08:12 marcelr       hi #koha
07:56 wahanui       salut, alex_a
07:56 alex_a        bonjour
07:42 reiveune      hello
05:42 dcook         Meh, might just write it then can revise later
05:40 dcook         Although I suppose I could actually get around that by being smarter with the logic
05:39 dcook         I need a sub because I'll be calling the transformation code a few times in different circumstances
05:39 dcook         Ahh right
05:39 dcook         I guess I need to update my oai tables to mark them as processed afterward
05:39 dcook         Well, that's not true..
05:38 dcook         AddBiblio and ModBiblio are my end points
05:38 dcook         I need the sandwich filling
05:38 dcook         Yeah
05:38 eythian       display/export/whatever
05:38 eythian       oh right. Well, still the same idea, it should just be transforming the data for display.
05:37 dcook         I thought that I'd have to write something extra but now I don't remember why
05:37 dcook         Actually maybe Marcel's XSLT handler is enough..
05:37 dcook         The download is pretty straight forwardd, but the transforming is borderline
05:37 dcook         Then another one which transforms them via XSLT then adds/updates them in Koha
05:37 dcook         There's a cronjob to download records via OAI
05:36 dcook         Well, in this case it's not even going to a template
05:36 eythian       ideally, it'd only be controlling the data going to the template.
05:36 eythian       it also forces you to keep as much logic out of the .pl as you can
05:36 dcook         Hmm, maybe not a bad idea to use a module then
05:35 eythian       I'm not sure, but that rings a bell. They are problematic with plack for reasons I don't fully understand.
05:35 dcook         Are we avoiding defining subs in .pl scripts?
05:35 dcook         But I definitely need a sub...
05:34 dcook         Hmm, I don't know if it's worth making a module for this behaviour
05:32 eythian       haha
05:32 dcook         I think about "ingesting" records, "digesting" records, but the logical progression just isn't very pleasant
05:31 dcook         Hmm, bodily metaphors break down a bit at some point
05:30 dcook         Cool. I hadn't noticed it in a little while, but I'll keep using it as well then
05:29 eythian       I am, yeah
05:25 dcook         Are we still using Class::Accessor in Koha?
05:24 dcook         Excited to watch them though!
05:24 dcook         I'll save the videos for the morning :)
05:23 eythian       I can't do it :)
05:22 dcook         I'm sure it's possible :p
05:22 dcook         Listening to presentations and music while coding and watching the video
05:22 dcook         There's a sci fi movie for that I think..
05:22 dcook         But then how will I listen to my music? :p
05:22 eythian       dual monitors :)
05:22 dcook         np
05:21 eythian       thanks
05:21 dcook         Hmm, now whether to watch videos or try to build this object class..
05:21 dcook         https://www.youtube.com/user/osdc14
05:21 eythian       urlme the channel, my google is failing me
05:20 dcook         Ah, there you are too
05:20 dcook         Hmm, those Perl Training folk really like their hats :p
05:20 dcook         Yay! Jacinta's is there!
05:20 dcook         Yarp. I see at least a few
05:19 dcook         That might do it
05:19 dcook         Ooo OSDC Australia channel...
05:19 dcook         Let's see... filters...
05:19 dcook         Yep
05:18 eythian       there's too many OSDCs now.
05:18 dcook         Nothing jumping out at the moment. Will have to do a second try..\
05:17 dcook         Hmm
05:17 eythian       They were uploading them on the last day, so you may be able to find some now.
05:17 eythian       youtube, iinet (I think), and I'm going to upload them to archive.org when they're all ready.
05:16 dcook         Do you know where they plan to host the video?
05:16 dcook         Ooo, I was interested to see Hugh's full disk encryption one as well..
05:16 * eythian     points to /lastlog
05:16 dcook         Ah, easy as
05:15 * dcook       looks for that joindin link that eythian posted earlier..
04:19 dcook         Well, I suppose they wouldn't be called hidden if they were so easy to find
04:18 dcook         I don't think there are any hidden cameras behind me..
04:18 dcook         And I just opened the bug report on my right monitor
04:18 dcook         Because the chat window is on my left monitor
04:18 dcook         You see... it's funny you say that
04:11 eythian       over there -->
04:06 dcook         Now where's that bug I was commenting on earlier..
03:17 wizzyrea      haha that's adorable
03:14 cjh           :D
03:12 eythian       http://youtu.be/SdmDb8ozcXc <-- LEGO Particle Accelerator
01:04 wizzyrea      actually I have things that need doing that can't be done whilst frolicking in the sun.
01:04 wizzyrea      >.>
01:04 wizzyrea      YET.
01:04 wizzyrea      ...yes
01:04 eythian       wizzyrea lies, she didn't even move.
01:04 * wizzyrea    runs for the door
01:04 wizzyrea      21!
01:03 eythian       papa: I guess I brought some of the warm back from Brisbane.
01:03 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (1:30 PM NZDT on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
01:03 eythian       @wunder nzwn
00:54 dcook         hehe
00:52 eythian       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGillicuddy_Serious_Party#Policies <-- I guess these guys kept up at least one campaign promise (the second one) even though they didn't make it into government.
00:51 dcook         I feel better already.
00:51 dcook         Oh, eythian. You always know how to bring the laughs.
00:50 eythian       yeah :)
00:50 dcook         My favourite is the one with TWO New Zealands
00:50 dcook         Hehe
00:48 dcook         I love how they have Tasmania on some but still no NZ
00:46 eythian       http://worldmapswithout.nz/