Time  Nick          Message
00:46 eythian       http://worldmapswithout.nz/
00:48 dcook         I love how they have Tasmania on some but still no NZ
00:50 dcook         Hehe
00:50 dcook         My favourite is the one with TWO New Zealands
00:50 eythian       yeah :)
00:51 dcook         Oh, eythian. You always know how to bring the laughs.
00:51 dcook         I feel better already.
00:52 eythian       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGillicuddy_Serious_Party#Policies <-- I guess these guys kept up at least one campaign promise (the second one) even though they didn't make it into government.
00:54 dcook         hehe
01:03 eythian       @wunder nzwn
01:03 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (1:30 PM NZDT on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
01:03 eythian       papa: I guess I brought some of the warm back from Brisbane.
01:04 wizzyrea      21!
01:04 * wizzyrea    runs for the door
01:04 eythian       wizzyrea lies, she didn't even move.
01:04 wizzyrea      ...yes
01:04 wizzyrea      YET.
01:04 wizzyrea      >.>
01:04 wizzyrea      actually I have things that need doing that can't be done whilst frolicking in the sun.
03:12 eythian       http://youtu.be/SdmDb8ozcXc <-- LEGO Particle Accelerator
03:14 cjh           :D
03:17 wizzyrea      haha that's adorable
04:06 dcook         Now where's that bug I was commenting on earlier..
04:11 eythian       over there -->
04:18 dcook         You see... it's funny you say that
04:18 dcook         Because the chat window is on my left monitor
04:18 dcook         And I just opened the bug report on my right monitor
04:18 dcook         I don't think there are any hidden cameras behind me..
04:19 dcook         Well, I suppose they wouldn't be called hidden if they were so easy to find
05:15 * dcook       looks for that joindin link that eythian posted earlier..
05:16 dcook         Ah, easy as
05:16 * eythian     points to /lastlog
05:16 dcook         Ooo, I was interested to see Hugh's full disk encryption one as well..
05:16 dcook         Do you know where they plan to host the video?
05:17 eythian       youtube, iinet (I think), and I'm going to upload them to archive.org when they're all ready.
05:17 eythian       They were uploading them on the last day, so you may be able to find some now.
05:17 dcook         Hmm
05:18 dcook         Nothing jumping out at the moment. Will have to do a second try..\
05:18 eythian       there's too many OSDCs now.
05:19 dcook         Yep
05:19 dcook         Let's see... filters...
05:19 dcook         Ooo OSDC Australia channel...
05:19 dcook         That might do it
05:20 dcook         Yarp. I see at least a few
05:20 dcook         Yay! Jacinta's is there!
05:20 dcook         Hmm, those Perl Training folk really like their hats :p
05:20 dcook         Ah, there you are too
05:21 eythian       urlme the channel, my google is failing me
05:21 dcook         https://www.youtube.com/user/osdc14
05:21 dcook         Hmm, now whether to watch videos or try to build this object class..
05:21 eythian       thanks
05:22 dcook         np
05:22 eythian       dual monitors :)
05:22 dcook         But then how will I listen to my music? :p
05:22 dcook         There's a sci fi movie for that I think..
05:22 dcook         Listening to presentations and music while coding and watching the video
05:22 dcook         I'm sure it's possible :p
05:23 eythian       I can't do it :)
05:24 dcook         I'll save the videos for the morning :)
05:24 dcook         Excited to watch them though!
05:25 dcook         Are we still using Class::Accessor in Koha?
05:29 eythian       I am, yeah
05:30 dcook         Cool. I hadn't noticed it in a little while, but I'll keep using it as well then
05:31 dcook         Hmm, bodily metaphors break down a bit at some point
05:32 dcook         I think about "ingesting" records, "digesting" records, but the logical progression just isn't very pleasant
05:32 eythian       haha
05:34 dcook         Hmm, I don't know if it's worth making a module for this behaviour
05:35 dcook         But I definitely need a sub...
05:35 dcook         Are we avoiding defining subs in .pl scripts?
05:35 eythian       I'm not sure, but that rings a bell. They are problematic with plack for reasons I don't fully understand.
05:36 dcook         Hmm, maybe not a bad idea to use a module then
05:36 eythian       it also forces you to keep as much logic out of the .pl as you can
05:36 eythian       ideally, it'd only be controlling the data going to the template.
05:36 dcook         Well, in this case it's not even going to a template
05:37 dcook         There's a cronjob to download records via OAI
05:37 dcook         Then another one which transforms them via XSLT then adds/updates them in Koha
05:37 dcook         The download is pretty straight forwardd, but the transforming is borderline
05:37 dcook         Actually maybe Marcel's XSLT handler is enough..
05:37 dcook         I thought that I'd have to write something extra but now I don't remember why
05:38 eythian       oh right. Well, still the same idea, it should just be transforming the data for display.
05:38 eythian       display/export/whatever
05:38 dcook         Yeah
05:38 dcook         I need the sandwich filling
05:38 dcook         AddBiblio and ModBiblio are my end points
05:39 dcook         Well, that's not true..
05:39 dcook         I guess I need to update my oai tables to mark them as processed afterward
05:39 dcook         Ahh right
05:39 dcook         I need a sub because I'll be calling the transformation code a few times in different circumstances
05:40 dcook         Although I suppose I could actually get around that by being smarter with the logic
05:42 dcook         Meh, might just write it then can revise later
07:42 reiveune      hello
07:56 alex_a        bonjour
07:56 wahanui       salut, alex_a
08:12 marcelr       hi #koha
08:17 drojf         good morning #koha
08:18 gaetan_B      hello
08:18 wahanui       what's up, gaetan_B
08:33 * magnuse     waves
08:35 drojf         hi magnuse
08:40 marcelr       hi drojf magnuse
08:40 drojf         hi marcelr
08:41 marcelr       long time no see?
08:41 magnuse       hiya marcelr and drojf
08:42 drojf         true
08:42 magnuse       yay for http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.20 - now a ll we need is a 3.16.x maint!
08:43 cait          hi all
08:43 cait          and bye all :) off work today :)
08:45 magnuse       guten morgen cait - have fun!
08:45 drojf         hi cait
08:46 marcelr       hi cait
08:48 cait          :)
08:48 cait          getting a new kitchen this week! *squee*
08:49 drojf         woohoo
08:50 magnuse       yay!
08:51 drojf         what happened to the position of live-cd manager? *hides*
08:56 magnuse       drojf: voluteer for it if you like? ;-)
08:57 drojf         [off] magnuse: i considered that to make it go away :P
09:03 cait          ok, timeto leave :)
09:25 magnuse       kia ora Viktor
09:26 Viktor        Kia ora magnuse!
10:37 * magnuse     looks quizzically at bug 11211
10:37 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
10:37 magnuse       cait: can you remember if you got the tests in t/db_dependent/Calendar.t and t/db_dependent/Holidays.t to run?
10:38 cait          on master?
10:38 cait          aah
10:38 magnuse       no, when testing 11211
10:38 cait          magnuse: i am not sure, it's normally one of the first things I do - i think theymight have run ok, but not sure
10:39 magnuse       i get this: Undefined subroutine &main::ModRepeatingEvent called at t/db_dependent/Calendar.t line 22.
10:39 magnuse       which seems weird
10:40 Joubu         magnuse: I suspect a use missing in the test file
10:40 magnuse       it has "use C4::Calendar;"
10:40 cait          Joubu++ thx
10:41 cait          magnuse: hm ormaybe a dependency?
10:42 Joubu         magnuse: I don't get this error
10:43 Joubu         11211 on top of master
10:43 Joubu         t/db_dependent/Calendar.t .. ok
10:43 Joubu         All tests successful.
10:43 Joubu         (same for t/db_dependent/Holidays.t)
10:44 magnuse       gah!
10:44 magnuse       i'm on a gitified setup, maybe that is doing it...
10:46 magnuse       when i run this, Calendar.t is the only one that fails: $ sudo koha-shell -c "prove t/db_dependent/C*.t" kohadev
10:47 magnuse       the script that lets you edit the calendar, calendar.pl seems to work as it should
12:04 ashimema      @later tell eythian thanks for looking at the SIP bug so quickly when you got back :)
12:04 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
12:06 ashimema      anyone here happen to know if google books changed their api recently..
12:07 ashimema      we're suddenly finding book jackets not working well in one of our apps.
12:55 tcohen        morning!
12:55 tcohen        @later tell eythian, thanks!
12:55 huginn        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:55 tcohen        eythian++
12:55 marcelr       hi tcohen
12:56 marcelr       tcohen++ #for another RM term..
12:56 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:59 tcohen        crazy_people++
12:59 magnuse       lol
12:59 * magnuse     hopes more people will sign up for bug wrangling
13:01 drojf         when are we going to vote?
13:01 tcohen        cait has been doing a lot
13:04 magnuse       the only role missing is 3.16.x rmaint?
13:04 magnuse       next community meeting would probably be ok for voting?
13:04 magnuse       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_19_November_2014
13:15 magnuse       there, i added voting to the agenda http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_19_November_2014#Agenda
13:16 tcohen        magnuse++
13:17 drojf         too early for me to know about bug wrangling ;)
13:19 drojf         but i a still allowed to to that without a title, right ;)
13:20 tcohen        oleonard: can u help me figure where to put a note on the sample XSL files that could be used during Z/SRU import?
13:20 oleonard      I don't understand
13:21 tcohen        i'm adding some .xsl files on bug 6681
13:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported
13:21 tcohen        and I need to document (on the UI) that they are available as examples for usage
13:21 tcohen        should I just put it on the help section?
13:22 oleonard      That would certainly be the right place to start
13:23 tcohen        something like "You can use 'Del952.xsl, Del9LinksExcept952.xsl' if you want to delete attached items and $9 links"
13:24 oleonard      Sorry I don't understand the bug well enough to comment right now
13:25 Joubu         magnuse: did you see 8133 depends on 11211?
13:46 magnuse       drojf: sure you can wrangle without a title, but having 20 wranglers makes us look rock solid ;-)
13:46 * oleonard    prints "Rockin' Wranglers" t-shirts for everyone
13:47 magnuse       Joubu: yup, i get the conflict when i apply 8133 on top of 11211
13:47 drojf         oh a t-shirt :O
13:47 ashimema      t-shirts sound good :)
13:48 tcohen        i want one!
13:54 tcohen        marcelr, oleonard: http://snag.gy/mr5AD.jpg
13:55 marcelr       tcohen: looks good to me
13:55 tcohen        does it look close to ok?
13:55 tcohen        ok
13:55 tcohen        thanks :-D
13:57 ashimema      'When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes/fixes to those records. XSLT's allow you to achieved this; Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use:'
13:58 ashimema      You can already make changes to the records manually can you not..?
13:58 ashimema      Import, takes you back to editor where you can change stuff.. the xslt's just automate some common modifications for you right?
13:59 tcohen        ashimema: you're right
13:59 ashimema      In which case... my above amendments may prove slightly more explanatory.. oleonard care to comment as another native speaker?
13:59 ashimema      :)
13:59 * marcelr     is no native speaker luckily :)
13:59 marcelr       at least of english..
14:00 oleonard      "When retrieving records from external targets you may wish to automate some changes to those records. XSLT's allow you to do this. Koha ships with some sample XSLT files ready for use."
14:00 oleonard      I would take out the "/fixes" and replace "achieve" with "do"
14:01 ashimema      :).. I'de go with oleonards.. thanks for chipping in :)
14:01 marcelr       +1
14:01 tcohen        +1
14:02 oleonard      tcohen: I'm concerned about the difficulty of knowing what to enter in that "XSLT File(s)" field in the Z39.50 server form
14:02 tcohen        me too
14:02 oleonard      If it always looks in the same place, can we pull a list of existing files and make that a multi-select?
14:03 tcohen        oleonard: i think we need some sort of XSLT registry
14:03 tcohen        probably on the DB
14:03 tcohen        (instead of the filesystem)
14:04 tcohen        but i'm not sure we can have it for the release
14:04 oleonard      Would a check of the filesystem be an acceptable solution in the interim?
14:05 * oleonard    says this without knowing how difficult it is to actually implement
14:07 tcohen        problem is we would be changing the current functionality, in which you can put whatever you want
14:08 tcohen        (maybe outside koha's templates directory
14:08 oleonard      I see
14:08 ashimema      Why not store the XSLT's themselves in the database.. like OPACUserCSS and similar sysprefs..
14:09 marcelr       yes, it is interesting
14:09 ashimema      perhaps in their own table though.. as you'de expect there to be any number of XSLT's present
14:09 marcelr       bug 12973
14:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow passing code to XSLT_Handler instead of filename
14:09 marcelr       the code can come from a table
14:09 marcelr       can->could
14:09 ashimema      it's basically just a key/value at that point
14:09 ashimema      cool
14:12 oleonard      I'm curious how many of you run your Koha sites over SSL?
14:13 marcelr       i am in the process of going to ssl
14:13 marcelr       just curious about performance issues
14:14 tcohen        oleonard: we do here
14:14 tcohen        the 46 instances behind a reverse proxy
14:15 tcohen        (staff only for now)
14:16 tcohen        ashimema: not only key/value, I'd add information on what it expects and what its output would be
14:16 tcohen        so we know in which context the XSLT should be offered for use
14:17 ashimema      sounds good to me tcohen.
14:17 ashimema      oleanard,marcelr.. all our sites run behind ssl (https)
14:17 tcohen        w've just discussed that with bgkriegel on the parking lot =D
14:17 ashimema      performance is a non-issue with it these days, computer are plain good at encryption ;)
14:18 ashimema      only issue outstnading I know of is mixed content warning on google book jackets..
14:18 ashimema      otherwise I think everything works as expected..
14:19 ashimema      for google book jackets.. I don't think there is any solution without breaking their api terms and conditions (i.e. passing their data through a proxy or caching is not allowed I believe)
14:19 ashimema      tcohen.. you reverse proxy.. intersting
14:19 tcohen        we have a wildcard SSL certificate
14:20 tcohen        and use nginx in front of our stock koha-common setup
14:20 tcohen        ah, I recall, the koha<->proxy connexion uses a self-signed SSL certificate too
14:24 marcelr       see you later
14:33 Joubu         Does someone have the same problem as oleonard on checkin (bug 13226)?
14:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference
15:08 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13211: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1b406a31f72962c7e644149ac438e604d59b674> / Bug 13211: (followup) remove 'masthead' reference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36199881d07ffc874d1c3c3eb152b35efbedbc9f> / Bug 13211: Added Google Indic Transliteration as a System Preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
15:20 tcohen        @later tell magnuse please contact me to check some things for the NL bug
15:20 huginn        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:57 paul_p        hello #koha
15:58 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12448: (RM followup) fix bug number in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa37fbfd53b45ff285a2cffee8d7110aaa824cfa> / Bug 12986: Upgrade the DataTables jQuery plugin to the latest version (1.10.2) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=954c2874d0d9ebfa2e910dcd4445010115fac329> / Bug 9043: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
16:04 reiveune      bye
16:47 Joubu         See you #koha
16:47 Joubu         for info, it's bank holiday in France tomorrow ;)
17:11 gaetan_B      bye!
17:30 cait          magnuse++
17:31 * cait        waves
17:31 druthb        cait!
17:32 cait          druthb!
17:32 druthb        :)
17:46 oleonard      Yay, 3-hour budget meeting! Is over.
17:47 cait          oh wow
17:47 * cait        hands the cookie jar to oleonard
17:49 druthb        cookie!
17:49 * cait        instructs oleonard to share with druthb
17:49 bag           hola
17:49 oleonard      But cait this jar is empty (now)
17:49 * druthb      pouts.
17:49 * cait        gets another one
17:49 cait          hola bag
17:50 bag           heya cait
17:50 druthb        bag!  oleonard ate all the cookies!
17:52 * cait        hands druthb her own cookie jar
17:52 * druthb      takes it, offers some around to others.
17:52 druthb        wahanui:  botsnack cookie
17:52 wahanui       :)
18:06 nengard       git help please :)
18:06 nengard       how do I solve this:
18:06 nengard       previous rebase directory /Users/nengard/manual/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given.
18:08 bag           git rebase --abort
18:08 bag           or you can just git reset --hard HEAD
18:08 bag           hmm..  something in there with an --abort ;)
18:08 nengard       yup - all better :)
18:09 bag           sweet
18:10 bag           welcome back mario
18:10 mario         thanks bag
18:12 cait          @wunder Konstanz
18:12 huginn        cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
18:12 cait          it's coooold!
18:16 bag           @weather 93102
18:16 huginn        bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 19.3°C (10:16 AM PST on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
18:16 bag           cold here too cait
18:16 bag           I had to wear a sweater today
18:16 cait          scarf!
18:25 tcohen        later!
18:26 magnuse       @wunder boo
18:26 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on November 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
18:56 learn_koha    hi everyone,
18:56 wahanui       hi everyone, is there anyone here who might be able to shed some light on the Koha problem I'm having?
18:57 learn_koha    who knows how i can mangae staff accounts (add new or edit) in koha site ?
18:57 cait          you add a patron and then use more > permissions to give them the rights to use modules, log into the staff acount
18:57 talljoy       Once you've added a new patron, you go to permissions
18:57 talljoy       jinx cait
18:58 bag           manual?
18:58 wahanui       manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
18:58 cait          :)
18:58 cait          talljoy++ nice article :)
18:58 talljoy       my blog?
18:58 talljoy       already posted?  yay!
18:58 talljoy       thanks cait.
18:59 learn_koha    where is "permissions"?
19:00 talljoy       upper right side of the patron detail screen.
19:00 oleonard      learn_koha: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/patronpermissions.html
19:00 rangi         morning
19:00 talljoy       unless you do not have permissions to set other staff permissions learn_koha
19:00 oleonard      Hi rangi
19:00 talljoy       hola rangi
19:01 learn_koha    ah ha ~  thanks to oleonard and talljoy !
19:02 talljoy       yw!
19:02 oleonard      "All staff members must be entered into Koha as patrons of the 'Staff' type'" ...is that accurate?
19:02 rangi         having the manual bookmarked will save you a lot of stress learn_koha :)
19:02 rangi         oleonard: no, it doesnt matter at all
19:03 talljoy       it's good practice. but won't stop you from doing anything if you are not set as staff.
19:03 rangi         permissions are all that matter, for everything except circulation
19:03 rangi         one thing ive worked on, and is nearly finished is default permissions for a category
19:04 rangi         like you can do with extended attributes currently
19:05 oleonard      Oh that'll be great rangi. Long time coming.
19:05 rangi         which would make that potentially true ;)
19:05 talljoy       excellent
19:05 rangi         its an on my own time thing, as it's not annoying enough to pay to fix :) so it suffers from being last in the queue, but it will get there
19:09 rangi         talljoy++
19:09 rangi         that is a great post
19:12 RowdyChildren @karma
19:12 huginn        RowdyChildren: Highest karma: "cait" (162), "gmcharlt" (151), and "oleonard" (112).  Lowest karma: "^" (-9), "-" (-9), and "ie" (-7).
19:13 rangi         we have 2 karma counters
19:13 rangi         karma for cait
19:13 wahanui       cait has karma of 603
19:13 rangi         wahanui hasnt been reset
19:13 wahanui       rangi: excuse me?
19:13 rangi         you heard me you egg
19:14 druthb        karma for druthb
19:14 wahanui       druthb has karma of 178
19:14 jcamins       rangi: quick, better reset wahanui's karma counter lest someone take it too seriously!
19:14 cait          oh
19:14 druthb        lol
19:14 rangi         RowdyChildren: huginn gets reset each year (or just randomly also)
19:14 rangi         karma #koha
19:14 wahanui       #koha has karma of 5
19:14 rangi         heh
19:18 cait          is ther a good reason to use the cardnumber for linking on the holds queue??
19:20 bag           cait does it display the cardnumber?
19:20 cait          it does - but using it for th elink to the patron account seems unusual
19:20 cait          instead of the borrowernumber
19:21 bag           yup it does seem unusual (I would say that displaying the cardnumber is important - who really cares how you link it? - except speed impact?)
19:21 bag           I think borrowernumber seems more consistent
19:21 cait          not sure either - but borrowernumber seems more standard
19:22 bag           yeah I agree with that cait :)
19:22 cait          hm i have a patch - people can test and tell :)
19:22 mtompset      mmm... perhaps because you can log in by cardnumber or username, not borrower number?
19:23 mtompset      cardnumber is external visible by default. borrower number is not.
19:23 mtompset      Just some thoughts.
19:23 mtompset      But for linking data, I would expect borrower number over cardnumber.
19:24 cait          it's a link in the staff interface...
19:24 cait          nothing about the log in :)
19:26 rangi         cait: it should be borrowernumber
19:26 rangi         cardnumber can change
19:26 rangi         then the link will be broken
19:28 cait          it would be broken if it changed between runs of the holds queue script i think
19:28 cait          but i agree
19:28 rangi         does anyone know if the archives in hawaii are still using koha?
19:29 rangi         http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov:8000/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
19:29 rangi         heh looks like it
19:29 cait          ok, patch is on bug 12359 - not sure about the feature itself, opinions welcome :)
19:29 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12359 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , hidepatronname doesn't hide on the holds queue
19:29 rangi         good old version 2
19:30 rangi         if anyone has a contact there, you can tell them, ill upgrade them for free, if they fly me over :-)
19:30 cait          heh
19:30 cait          if you do... ask if they need training too? :)
19:30 bag           HA
19:34 cait          hm question
19:34 wahanui       question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
19:35 cait          we have some very outdated docs about the tranlsation scripts
19:35 cait          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/translator/translator_doc.txt;h=67e01809db1e4c92ce5dc560986aea63c2d4f83c;hb=aa37fbfd53b45ff285a2cffee8d7110aaa824cfa
19:35 cait          should we remove them?
19:35 rangi         yes
19:35 rangi         outdated doc is worse than no docs
19:35 cait          ok
19:35 cait          i will make a quick patch thn
19:35 rangi         yay
19:39 cait          bub 10136
19:40 cait          bug 10136
19:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10136 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , misc/translator/translator_doc.html outdated
19:42 cait          good morning kathryn
19:42 kathryn       hello cait :)
19:46 learn_koha    hi,  why can i not find out where i can change my own password in staff site ?
19:49 cait          learn_koha: easiest is to change it via the opac
19:50 learn_koha    but this is my staff account,      staff account seems not to login opac ?
19:51 cait          it does
19:51 cait          unless you are using the databaes user, which you should not :)
19:53 learn_koha    o... i know why i can not login, because i do have permission...   do you know how to bulk update permission?
20:01 cait          wow
20:01 * cait        tries to fix something in one of the old reports
20:10 ashimema      evening #koha
20:10 rangi         hi ashimema
20:10 ashimema      hey rangi.. how goes ti
20:11 ashimema      s/ti/it
20:11 rangi         not too bad, and you?
20:11 ashimema      Not bad.. trying to get my head around tocken based authentication vs cookies..
20:11 ashimema      it's just making me want to eat cookie s ;)
20:12 jcamins       ashimema: tokens are better.
20:12 ashimema      I'm thinking that..
20:13 ashimema      but I'm stuggling to get my head around implimenting them ;)
20:13 jcamins       I tell you from hard-won and painfully endured experience, cookie-based authentication for REST APIs is like replacing all the sugar in a cookie with rat poison.
20:13 jcamins       [left as an exercise for the user]
20:13 ashimema      will get there in the end I'm sure..  just another piece to hit my head against
20:13 * ashimema    has been getting a sore head allot of late
20:13 ashimema      haha... lol.
20:14 ashimema      indeed.. it's a REST api I'm attempting to add such authentication too
20:14 ashimema      (which reminds me.. I should poke at pianohacker to add tocken support to the Koha::Services patches he's working on ;) )
20:16 * cait        growls at cataloguing stats
21:26 BobB          hi
21:32 cait          hi BobB
21:33 BobB          hi cait
21:34 BobB          @wunder sydney nsw
21:34 huginn        BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
21:35 BobB          @wunder sydney, australia
21:35 huginn        BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (8:00 AM AEDT on November 11, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
22:00 eythian       hi
22:00 cait          morning
22:03 mtompset      Greetings, eythian. :)
22:03 mtompset      Greetings, cait. :)
22:04 cait          hi mtompset
22:08 eythian       g'day cait, mtompset
22:32 eythian       https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/events/#e148 <-- rangi, got your ticket for this?
22:32 dcook         That moment when you write a comment on Bugzilla and you expect it to go to 5 people but it goes to at least 20.
22:33 rangi         eythian: i have
22:33 rangi         oh, hmm no ihavent
22:33 eythian       BBQ in a fortress!
22:33 wizzyrea      how could you say no.
22:34 rangi         i think ill be doing kids duty
22:34 eythian       dcook: coming to kiwicon I assume?
22:34 rangi         having skived off when the conf is on
22:34 dcook         eythian: I love the style though. I recall you linking to the source for it I think..
22:34 wizzyrea      you could foist them off on some one else ;)
22:34 wizzyrea      <---
22:34 eythian       dcook: yeah, I saw it when it was released, it's quite well done
22:34 dcook         eythian: Alas, not this time
22:35 dcook         Probably no travel for this guy until after July
22:35 rangi         eythian: im doing this one https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/training/#e119
22:35 rangi         i also sponsored tickets for 2 librarians
22:35 dcook         Also, who knew that leaving the country reset certain bureaucratic counters...
22:35 rangi         and jay at ndha matched me, with 2 more
22:35 eythian       cool
22:35 dcook         I love the names of these sessions
22:36 eythian       I'm eyeing up the SDR training thing
22:36 dcook         "Penetration Testing Java applications for Fun and Profit"
22:38 mtompset      Nice abridged code of conduct. :)
22:48 cait          would someone be opposed to closing bug 8866?
22:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS
22:49 cait          eythian: ?
22:49 eythian       I totally have no opinion, mtj needs to explain what he's talking about there.
22:50 cait          @later tell mtj can you take a look at bug 8866 please?
22:50 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
22:57 eythian       https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/schedule/ <-- dcook, here's the whole schedule
23:05 tcohen        hi
23:05 wahanui       bonjour, tcohen
23:06 eythian       bonjour, tcohen
23:06 tcohen        hi eythian
23:07 cait          wb tcohen
23:16 tcohen        i guess all of us will hang if we meet a zombie zebra
23:17 dcook         Who, wha?
23:17 dcook         cool, eythian :)
23:17 tcohen        bug 8908
23:17 wahanui       bug 8908 is where I reported it, but I don't see a patch.
23:17 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
23:20 tcohen_       am i online?
23:20 eythian       tcohen_: nope
23:20 rangi         yes, but im going to lunch
23:20 rangi         :)
23:21 tcohen_       rangi: damn
23:21 tcohen_       logout tcohen
23:22 eythian       yeah, tcohen. Logout!
23:23 tcohen_       hey, don't be rude
23:24 eythian       you said it first
23:24 tcohen_       dcook: i'll go for an XSLT registry
23:24 tcohen_       eythian: :-P
23:24 tcohen_       thanks for the json-escape package
23:24 tcohen_       already installed on jenkins nodes
23:24 eythian       cool
23:25 tcohen        =D
23:25 tcohen        \o/
23:26 tcohen        katrina: doesn't 8908 block 12173?
23:26 tcohen        (i.e. the other way around)
23:27 tcohen        i mean, cait
23:27 cait          sec
23:28 cait          yep