Time Nick Message 19:32 oleonard Thanks, you too cait. 19:31 cait have a nice weekend :) 19:31 cait ah 19:31 oleonard for 30 more minutes 19:30 cait ... so you are not at work? :) 19:26 oleonard I leave at 3 every day now. I come to work earlier so that I can pick up the kids from school. 19:26 jcamins I have long been jealous of the fact that you get out of work early on Fridays. Should I still be jealous? 19:25 jcamins You were either agreeing that you don't get off at 3 or agreeing that you get off at 3. 19:25 jcamins Okay, that was a badly phrased question. 19:25 oleonard Yes 19:24 jcamins oleonard: you don't get off at 3 on Fridays? 19:17 cait i know that feeling 19:17 cait :) 19:17 oleonard Feels especially late when most of the channel is already off for the weekend :) 19:15 cait still not used to seeing you around so late 19:15 cait hi oleonard :) 19:15 oleonard Hi again cait 18:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12403: DBRev 3.17.00.050 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ae564dd2d749434e977d5cbe810c0f5cb2b240c> / Bug 12403 [Follow-up] Batch record deletion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e68a58b238e2461b2b28d8cc9f9db357af383df> / Bug 12403: Follow-up - fixing a few typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee836ebb6489919d14c03b5339362 18:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12334: Make it easy to hide parts of material type and format information in... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e5097d0fa62037ab9fad093f42629064f97b610> / Bug 12250: DBRev 3.17.00.049 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7de9609ca9023900f03f368e174152f95862b38> / Bug 12250: Update descriptions for languages, scripts and regions <http://git.koha-community.org 18:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Needs Signoff , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported 18:04 tcohen bug 6681 17:40 tcohen Joubu: is it possible to reload the jenkins process? 17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #150: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/150/ 17:14 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 17:14 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 16:22 Joubu have a good week-end #koha 16:22 Joubu oleonard: if it's come from 11244, please link it. I will receive the notif and have a look on monday! 16:15 oleonard If checkin notices are being generated when I check in items shouldn't I be able to find them in message_queue? 16:10 cait have to run :( will be back tuesday worst case, maybe a bit earlier for a while 16:10 oleonard I am doing so now 16:10 cait oleonard: can you report a bug? 16:06 cait oleonard: weird 16:06 oleonard Checkout doesn't seem to be affected 16:03 reiveune bye 16:02 oleonard I thought I was going crazy. 16:02 oleonard Ah, I didn't think about notices being generated on check-in! 16:01 cait and shouldn't the same appear on checkout? 16:01 cait must be the check-in slip then 16:01 cait but interesting that it would take so long to generate a single notice 16:01 cait oh .( 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11244 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , notices ignoring the dateformat preference 16:01 oleonard Bug 11244 16:01 cait wow 16:01 oleonard Checkins go from 2 1/2 seconds to 50+ seconds 16:01 cait which bug is that? 16:00 oleonard I keep checking, and it really seems like commit 7605f9 is slowing things down 15:59 cait interesting -f or checkins? 15:41 oleonard The second (and third) time around it tells me that a change to C4/Letters.pm is to blame :( 15:27 cait oleonard: maybe a configuration change? a new feature being activated or something? 15:26 cait oleonard: hm. 15:05 * oleonard doesn't think it was a change to t/db_dependent/Letters.t which slowed down checkins 15:05 oleonard Ugh, git bisect why you gotta give me crap results? 15:04 cait have fun mveron 15:02 * mveron goes now to the Basel Book Festival: www.buchbasel.ch/ 14:59 oleonard Bisect is time-consuming when a checkin takes almost a full minute... 14:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12448: DBRev 3.17.00.048 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aef500f6a3168be665d2a38e9aa2c745c6e24c78> / Bug 12448: Follow-up: Only ask confirmation when rental charge > 0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4824ddba418be2e3d41412e7cbe740c12005c712> / Bug 12448: Ask for confirmation when checking out an item with rental fees <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 14:51 oleonard Trying 14:51 tcohen oleonard: can u bisect it? 14:49 cait :( 14:48 oleonard Something has changed recently which is really slowing down checkins in my VM 14:45 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 4.0°C (9:45 AM EST on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 14:45 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:42 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 13.0°C (3:42 PM CET on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 14:42 mveron @wunder allschwil 14:42 * mveron waves 14:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8836: (RM followup) unit tests should use the new API <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cabaa32b40f225dedfc969db02af596d7d22994> / Bug 8836: Update DBIx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c96ab7d19dfe0733f924ba6bb4026c62a53e2a75> / Bug 8836: DBRev 3.17.00.047 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f12d7e6792fc9e3f44daf6c361f4c4b792ca 14:27 cait oleonard: maybethere is something about it on the initial bug? I thought we just kept them but they are no longer taken into account after the date 14:27 oleonard I see it now, it's in Circulation.pm 14:25 oleonard Well I know it was working in the past so I know it's not something which hasn't been pushed yet :P 14:25 tcohen oleonard: i can push it right now for u :-D 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , add restrictions purge to cleanup_database.pl 14:23 cait bug 12760 14:23 cait oleonard: cleanup_database.pl 14:22 tcohen ok, it is time 14:22 cait maybe the database cleanup one? 14:21 cait oleonard: hm we aren't using it yet - it shoudl be a cronjob 14:11 oleonard anyone remember off the top of their heads how the automatic removal of restrictions works? Does the checkin process check for an remove automatic restrictions? 14:00 * oleonard wonders why his test system is running so slowly. Even regular checkins are taking forever 13:58 cait hm. 13:58 cait regretting? 13:58 wahanui okay, cait. 13:58 cait oleonard: i am also regretting a bit that we didn't offer this as an option first... or on a test system for people to see 13:57 cait oleonard: i understand you 13:56 oleonard cait: I'm not blaming rangi's fix for the waiting holds, I'm blaming the overall system. 13:55 oleonard It probably depends on whether the holds table has been loaded yet 13:55 cait oleonard: is the holds tab correct in that case? 13:54 cait oleonard: a problem of the new system... but i still prefer it over the waiting holds not showing up at all 13:49 oleonard It's a bug, it's just not easy to fix. 13:48 cait you'd have to make the waiting hold message and all ajax too iguess 13:48 cait the page is not reloaded 13:48 cait hm not sure it's a bug 13:43 oleonard ...AJAX that is. 13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Waiting holds information doesn't disappear from checkout page after hold is checked out 13:42 oleonard New AJAC circ bug: Bug 13221 13:32 cait oleonard: your database has all the updates? 13:32 oleonard Timeout waiting for output from CGI script 13:32 cait it sometimes happened for me if it didn't like something (like i forgot to do a databaseupdate) 13:32 oleonard Script timed out before returning headers: checkin 13:31 cait hm try to force releoad 13:31 oleonard Wow AJAX circ checkin (using the checkboxes) is just spinning away forever in my test system 13:11 cait hi oleonard :) 13:02 oleonard Hi #koha 12:51 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 12:51 cait mornign tcohen :) 12:42 tcohen hi magnuse 12:37 magnuse tcohen: you win! ;-) 12:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (1:20 PM CET on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 12:37 magnuse @wunder boo 12:28 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 1 hour, 31 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <marcelr> thx Joubu++ 12:28 tcohen @seen marcelr 12:20 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 28.8°C (9:20 AM ART on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 12:20 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:20 tcohen morning! 11:21 paxed INSTALL should have at the top something along the lines of "If you're installing on Debian, see INSTALL.debin, etc" 10:34 mveron Hi #koha 09:55 paxed so, any suggestions where to start looking when searching just gives me "zebrasrv(1) 00e720b5 [request] Search biblios ERROR 109" 09:05 ashimema morning #koha 08:33 wizzybobizzy hallo 08:22 gaetan_B hello 07:57 wahanui bidet, alex_a 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 07:51 magnuse @wunder boo 07:42 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:42 reiveune hello 07:34 magnuse have fun dcook 07:32 * dcook dashes 07:32 dcook Have a good weekend everyone :) 07:32 dcook Shhh 07:32 wahanui no it's not. 07:32 dcook That's right 07:31 dcook friday? 07:31 dcook good 07:31 wahanui dcook: I forgot friday 07:31 dcook wahanui forget friday 07:31 dcook D'oh 07:31 * dcook does a little dance 07:31 wahanui okay, dcook. 07:31 dcook Friday is also the day that dcook bought presale tickets to see Mogwai at the Sydney Opera House 07:00 magnuse pizzaday is friday 07:00 magnuse pizzaday! 06:59 magnuse ouch 06:59 wahanui okay, cait. 06:59 cait friday is also the day i have to go to bed early because i have to catch a bus in the morning because of train strike... 06:59 * magnuse will 06:59 cait ignore that. 06:59 cait $bbCait-12 06:59 cait :) 06:59 wahanui friday is pizzaday! 06:59 magnuse ooh, friday! 06:58 * cait waves back 06:56 * magnuse waves 04:19 mtj sticky footer, for the win 04:18 mtj http://getbootstrap.com/examples/sticky-footer/ 04:18 mtj hey wizzyrea, dcook - i think this is basically what im suggesting as a fix to the OPAC footer 03:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility 03:51 mtompset I got Bug 11592 all cleaned up again. Perhaps someone can sign it off. :) 03:51 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 03:00 dcook [off] I grumble about authentication providers who don't set up their servers correctly :p 02:59 * mtompset grumbles about permissions. :) 02:46 mtompset Okay, now I get it. 02:44 mtompset I put $ENV{ MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE } = 'unit_tests'; into the t/db_dependent/Biblio.t and my preliminary test works. 02:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12800 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Can't access MARC bibliographic frameworks and other pages 02:44 mtompset Hmmm... seems related to bug 12800... 02:19 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My current exploding prove -v t/db_dependent/Biblio.t" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/278 02:17 mtompset And I don't even know why? I know where in the code, but this new caching system that was added .... I don't understand why GetMarcStructure() would trigger it. 02:17 dcook Good luck with memcache, mtompset! 02:16 dcook On that note, I'm actually going for a walk 02:16 dcook I hate inexplicable errors triggering code changes. 02:16 mtompset I'm getting memcache kabooms. 02:15 mtj me too 02:14 mtompset I hate a code change triggering inexplicable errors. 02:14 mtompset Greetings, mtj. 02:14 mtompset walama? 02:11 mtj hiya mtompset 02:11 mtj ...looks like its a walama 02:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 02:09 dcook bbiab 02:09 dcook Ok, I've been on the computer non-stop for over 4 hours 02:09 mtj yeah, i know 02:08 dcook Where's eythian when you need him :p 02:08 dcook No idea 02:08 mtj peeps, a random interwebs meme question. what is this? -> http://i.imgur.com/EGZWGRa.gif 02:05 mtj indeed :) 01:49 dcook In any case, yay wizzyrea! 01:49 wizzyrea i mean design wise 01:49 dcook Although maybe you just mean layout? 01:49 dcook Not all the fields for the authority search will be the same for the bibliographic search O_o 01:48 dcook Consistent? 01:47 wizzyrea it's a personal project so... 01:47 wizzyrea in fact I'll make them both consistent thanks for pointing that out 01:47 wizzyrea oh yeah, I'll do that one 01:46 dcook It works :) 01:46 dcook The whole z3950 system could use an overhaul, but... 01:46 dcook I should've done a better job on the auth z3950 search... but it was a time crunch :/ 01:46 wizzyrea if it's similar, better to do it than not do it 01:46 dcook cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_auth_search.pl 01:46 wizzyrea may do actually - which page is it? 01:46 dcook You could redo that layout as well while you're at it 01:45 dcook Ah, I put "Keyword (any):" for the authorities z39.50 search 01:45 wizzyrea oh yeah, I'll make that part of this "general revamp" 01:45 dcook Actually, I think I've already changed it on the Authorities Z39.50 search.. 01:45 wizzyrea right cool, ok that's overwhelmingly, so far, in favour of the general layout change 01:44 dcook I might do that myself one day 01:44 dcook The only thing I'd change is "Raw (any)" to "Keyword", but that's just me. 01:44 dcook In any case, I think that your thoughts are good ones 01:44 dcook No idea :) 01:44 wizzyrea in case we were confusing each other 01:44 wizzyrea no, your thing is annoying, fitting more targets is good I think. 01:43 dcook But that too! 01:43 dcook Wait. That's not what I thought. 01:42 wizzyrea that's super annoying. 01:42 dcook So much that 01:42 dcook wizzyrea: Yes! 01:42 wizzyrea doh 01:42 dcook (Unrelated: that moment when you're wondering why a file didn't come through the build process.. and you realize that someone added the file to the git after you ran the original build. D'oh!) 01:42 wizzyrea the other thing I like about my proposed idea (this was an observation from last night by someone) is that you can fit more targets without scrolling. 01:42 dcook Trying to recall what Standard ID is... 01:41 * dcook has read through a lot of bib-1/z39.50 docs 01:41 dcook But I think "Keyword" is probably sufficient 01:41 dcook Keyword (any) maybe 01:41 wahanui something is sketchy 01:41 wizzyrea or something 01:40 dcook "Any" makes sense as it is the "any" index 01:40 wizzyrea maybe Keyword (Raw) 01:40 dcook I don't know where "Raw" comes from 01:40 wizzyrea yea, was thinking of changing that but worried that it was z39.50 terminology that made sense to everyone but me. 01:40 dcook I think "Keyword" would make more sense 01:40 dcook Personally, I dislike the "Raw (any)" label 01:40 wizzyrea so ISBN, ISSN, Title, Author, Raw, the rest 01:40 dcook Nice ;) 01:39 wizzyrea (not reflected in that screen cap is the fact that I've rearranged the fields from perceived most used to least used) 01:39 * dcook hates adding new fields when the "search fields" take up two columns on their own 01:39 mtj the new design make way more sense 01:39 dcook As in one column for targets and one column for fields 01:39 dcook I mean your design is better 01:39 dcook Sorry 01:38 wizzyrea as it is now 01:38 dcook Yeah, the two column design looks way better 01:38 dcook Fair enough 01:38 wizzyrea but the interface doesn't suggest that 01:38 dcook Ahhh 01:38 wizzyrea of course we know you can 01:38 wizzyrea was "can I search title and author at the same time" 01:38 wizzyrea or the question really 01:38 wizzyrea the comment was 01:38 mtj wizzyrea: looks way better 01:38 wizzyrea well the two column 01:38 dcook Well "Search fields" 01:38 dcook "Search Fields" 01:38 dcook Saying something like... 01:38 dcook Maybe another heading over the search fields 01:37 dcook Is that what they meant about the layout being confusing? 01:37 dcook Hmm 01:37 wizzyrea and I just want to know what people think 01:37 mtj but hey, i'm sure there is someone out that would be super-pissed that their floating footer, just got moved to the bottom of the screen 01:37 wizzyrea so I came up with https://i.imgur.com/D6ekIpa.png 01:37 dcook ? 01:37 wizzyrea I've had comments that it's a confusing layout 01:36 wizzyrea https://i.imgur.com/0YGdB6p.png so you're used to this 01:36 wizzyrea oh, mtj (and dcook) opinion time 01:36 wizzyrea libraries are titchy about design. 01:36 wizzyrea dunno, I can't say for sure 01:35 mtj ...but i thought it might be nice to 'fix' it for everyone, while i was at it 01:35 wizzyrea :/ 01:35 wizzyrea dunno, it would probably annoy libraries that are using bootstrap who expect it to be the way it is. 01:35 mtj i'll probably just fix it myself too... 01:33 dcook But I don't know whether our users would care one way or another about it 01:33 dcook Yeah, I can't say it's ever come up with us 01:33 wizzyrea to me, it seems "easy" enough to fix it with styles that I don't worry about it 01:33 dcook Catalyst sites are so pretty :) 01:32 dcook I don't know if all librarians would agree with me though 01:32 dcook Stylistically though, I would prefer it at the very bottom like you're both saying though 01:32 dcook Lots of sites are like that 01:32 dcook I wouldn't necessarily call it a bug 01:31 dcook Yeah, that's a tough one 01:31 mtj ...but, a default OPAC shows the 'bug' pretty well 01:31 mtj its not usually such a problem - as most live kohas have enuff OPAC content to push the footer down 01:31 dcook Hmm 01:30 wizzyrea I can't take credit, it goes to our super whiz designers 01:30 mtj looks nice wiz! 01:30 wizzyrea I wouldn't be opposed to making every bootstrap koha work like that one I just linked. 01:29 mtj the fix, would have the footer sitting at the bottom of the page 01:28 wizzyrea https://ihc.mykoha.co.nz/ < example 01:28 wizzyrea devil's advocate: can't you do that with custom styles pretty easily? 01:28 mtj heres an example of the 'bug' -> http://master.xen1.kohaaloha.com/ 01:27 wizzyrea hm. 01:27 mtj basically, a patch to force the footer to the bottom of the screen, rather than having it float half-way up the screen 01:27 wizzyrea but the description is the same. 01:27 wizzyrea actually that url won't work 01:27 wizzyrea when a user is not logged in and they get the login page, the footer is actually above the main content in the template, case and point http://corr-design.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl 01:26 dcook I don't think we really use the footer much 01:26 wizzyrea oh? 01:26 wizzyrea it's in my logs sec 01:26 mtj this has been a bit of a touchy issue, previously 01:26 wizzyrea on bootstrap, on certain pages 01:26 dcook wizzyrea: When does that happen? 01:26 dcook Actually, I don't know 01:26 wizzyrea if this is about the fact that sometimes it shows up above the main content, then I am for it. 01:26 dcook Burn it with fire! 01:25 mtj ...how do people feel about a patch to improve the OPAC footer behaviour/positioning? 01:25 wizzyrea whattup mtj 01:25 dcook yo mtj 01:24 mtj hi #koha 01:11 dcook Cool seeing another SLAISer around here :) 01:11 dcook Hmm, maybe a bit too late in the evening for you to be around 01:11 dcook maryj! 01:11 dcook :o 00:12 dcook hehe 00:11 wizzyrea ;) 00:11 wizzyrea heh, ther'ed probably be a massive collision with people falling over each other to get the signoff. 00:09 dcook bag: If Kyle updates it, I think there would be lots of people to test and sign off on it