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02:34 alvet Hi #koha: uploaded most of the kohacon14 conference recordings at http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNemeeBXI4ub2h6OepA0tP2ML1tT_HybL
02:35 alvet I have about 4 to 5 more and will add them to the playlist depending on upload speeds :)
02:41 rangi awesome thanks alvet
02:55 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:58 mtompset @later tell cait I set bug 9312 to Needs Signoff, since I tweaked code, but perhaps that is just a QA followup and should be Signed off?
02:58 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:14 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
05:57 cait good morning #koha
05:58 cait @later tell mtompset I'd feel a bit better with a new sign-off there - it's a lot of changes in that file
05:58 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
06:01 cait hm prefs with spaces??
06:02 cait alvet++
06:55 * magnuse waves
06:56 magnuse alvet++
07:15 magnuse hei petter
07:15 petter hei magnus!
07:45 cait hi petter - bbiab
07:49 reiveune hello
07:52 alex_a bonjour
07:52 wahanui bonjour, alex_a
08:01 marcelr hi #koha
08:07 marcelr hi cait
08:07 cait hi marcelr :)
08:08 cait and hi #koha
08:08 gaetan_B hello
08:08 wahanui hi, gaetan_B
08:25 magnuse bonjour france :-)
08:25 magnuse @wunder boo
08:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (9:20 AM CET on October 27, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Rising).
08:25 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 12.7°C (9:25 AM CET on October 27, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
08:26 magnuse ah well...
08:26 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:26 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.0°C (9:25 AM CET on October 27, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
08:26 cait stop complaining ;)
08:32 * magnuse is not complaining :-)
08:32 magnuse it feels kind of warm, actually
08:35 cait it's too dark :( missing the sun
09:25 magnuse kia ora slef!
09:26 slef hi magnuse - biab, just dealing with a network problem
11:22 cait hm someone around who knows a lot about the label module? chris_n?
11:22 kivilahtio paul_p: joubu: I hope you could give me 15min to discuss Bug 8367
11:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , How long is a hold waiting for pickup at a more granular level
11:23 paul_p kivilahtio = (hi) joubu won't, because he's afk for 1 more week
11:23 paul_p (holiday in Argentina !)
11:23 kivilahtio paul_p: WOW!
11:24 kivilahtio paul_p: So worth visiting the Koha-con :)
11:24 paul_p I'm about to go for lunch, and have 2 urgent things to do
11:24 kivilahtio paul_p: Need to go find my vegan lunch first, but after that in an hour or so I would like to hear your stance.
11:24 cait paul_p: just sent you an email :)
11:24 kivilahtio nice
11:24 kivilahtio I'll keep in touch
11:24 paul_p kivilahtio right (his girlfriend joined him after the KohaCon, and they took 3 weeks in Argentina ! lucky him)
11:24 kivilahtio so true
11:24 * cait is very jealous
11:24 cait but he deserves it
11:25 kivilahtio working for the public sector. They cant even pay my train ticket from Helsinki to Joensuu if I wont travel right after a conference we have there.
11:25 kivilahtio it is so unfair
11:25 kivilahtio cait: yeah, Joubu is doing good work! I am sure they are having an awesome time!
11:27 cait kivilahtio: hm more strict there than here i think :(
11:28 paul_p cait = ok, mail received, will avoid those dates
11:28 kivilahtio cait: I am working on a solution ;)
11:29 cait paul_p: if you can, the first one would be really good to avoid tho
11:30 kivilahtio lol I was contacted by a local prison looking to have a library system. I recommended Koha ofc. Apparently their electrician only has Windows or something...
11:30 cait hm i think there is a prison library in australia using koha
11:30 cait there was a presentation about it at kohacon10
11:32 BobB hi cait, kivilahtio
11:32 BobB alexander machonichie centre in Canberra Australia is the prison using Koha
11:32 BobB we upgraded them to 3.14 a few months ago
11:33 kivilahtio BobB: so they have a hosting contract with you?
11:33 kivilahtio BobB: I suggested they just run it on themselves, but they might havea need for some extra support now and then
11:33 BobB No, they run it in-house but the IT is supported by a company in Melbourne - Cyber IT
11:34 BobB they have built a special see-through computer - perspex I think - so no contraband can be hidden in it
11:34 BobB pretty cool
11:34 BobB The title of the paper at KohaCon10 was (wait for it!):
11:34 kivilahtio our library has a requirement to not be connected to the internet
11:34 kivilahtio no probs for Koha
11:34 BobB "When its not the code that's locked up."
11:34 BobB lol
11:35 kivilahtio nice
11:35 kivilahtio BobB: Can I find the presentation somewhere?
11:35 kivilahtio I think I could send it to them
11:35 cait hm internet archive maybe
11:36 BobB yeah I'm sure, will post the link
11:36 cait i found this http://bywatersolutions.com/2010/10/25/kohacon10-koha-in-prison/
11:37 BobB irma says the slides are on Slideshare and she'll find them ... stand by
11:37 magnuse there is at least one prison library in georgia (the country) using koha, and there will probably be more
11:37 magnuse there will also be some in oslo
11:37 kivilahtio I need to go get my lunch before the cafeterias close, but I'll get back here
11:38 BobB later
11:38 magnuse run kivilahtio run
11:38 cait https://archive.org/details/KohaCon10
11:38 cait vidoes :)
11:39 BobB https://ia802301.us.archive.org/12/items/KohaCon10/20101026_6_lavery_birchall_small.m4v
11:39 BobB same thing maybe
11:40 BobB wow four years ago already
11:40 BobB anyway, bed time for me, good night all\
11:43 cait good night BobB :)
12:15 kivilahtio Thanks for the links! Just forwarded them.
12:16 paul_p kivilahtio we also have one prison using Koha here. server not on the internet, of course, we go to the city once a year to do upgrades
12:18 kivilahtio paul_p: I guess there is not much to maintain in their installation?
12:19 kivilahtio just annual checks/upgrades?
12:19 paul_p kivilahtio right
12:19 kivilahtio sounds nice :)
12:20 kivilahtio paul_p: how is life in BibLibre?
12:20 kivilahtio magnuse: And how is Oslo doing? I haven't heard from Oslo in a while?
12:21 kivilahtio magnuse: going live soon?
12:22 paul_p kivilahtio busy, as usual. I'm travelling more than ever. In Q4: Greece, Argentina, Paris (x2), Israel and Germany. And nothing planned for december yet, something could be added (including a trip to Oslo if the contract we're about to sign with OPL requires it...)
12:22 kivilahtio We are planning to host a KohaCon next year
12:22 cait Israel? :)
12:22 kivilahtio paul_p: We are looking for keynote speakers
12:23 cait kivilahtio: a local one or THE kohacon?
12:23 paul_p cait yep, Jerusalem: we will host ebaf catalogue soon.
12:23 kivilahtio a loca one :)
12:23 cait hm ok next year, ignore the question :)
12:23 paul_p cait http://biblio.ebaf.edu/
12:23 paul_p kivilahtio = I'm your man !!!
12:23 kivilahtio Also, I heard it through the grapevine. Lapland Libraries are migrating to Koha
12:24 kivilahtio http://www.lapland.fi/en/home
12:24 cait kivilahtio: nice!
12:24 cait and that's where we need a 'koha communication person' again
12:24 paul_p (ah, and I've a trip to Italy planned for march)
12:24 cait kivilahtio: maybe you could ask them to write something for the newsletter?
12:24 kivilahtio I don't know the specifics, but Lapland is usffering from job scarcity and they are going to hire a Koha-developer/maintainer there to service their systems.
12:25 kivilahtio So we get another brick in the Koha-Gruppo-Finlandesi :)
12:26 cait :)
12:26 tcohen morning
12:26 kivilahtio gday!
12:26 chris_n cait: morning
12:27 cait hi chris_n :)
12:27 kivilahtio paul_p: I took the liberty of naming you for the candidates along with a few other :)
12:27 chris_n cait: sounds like you may have a sticky problem?
12:27 cait chris_n: did you appear because i said labels?
12:27 chris_n I did, indeed
12:27 kivilahtio like a genie in the bottle :=
12:27 kivilahtio don't ask for "pretty" lables
12:27 paul_p do we get 3 wishes ?
12:27 chris_n you have three labels-related wishes
12:28 kivilahtio :)
12:28 kivilahtio we are not talking about Letters here?
12:28 * chris_n looks about for his magic coding stick
12:28 cait chris_n: i had a library from camerun (german speaker) asking if you can put the name of the libray on the barcode label
12:29 cait i think i found the anser - static text with ''?
12:29 chris_n yes
12:29 chris_n that's it
12:29 chris_n we do that here
12:29 chris_n hmm... let me double check, though
12:29 kivilahtio chris_n: Dow the original Koha Labels Printer work with ALL utf8-characters? We are getting "Wide character in print" issues with PDF::Reuse
12:30 kivilahtio with some arcane utf8-symbols
12:30 chris_n kivilahtio: utf8 is a problem
12:30 kivilahtio or some foreign langauge material. I think PDF::Reuse is missing some characters to represent some letters
12:30 kivilahtio I tried adding a custom fontset which supports all utf8 characters but I donät think it iw working with PDF::Reuse
12:31 chris_n embedding the font will cure most of it
12:31 chris_n hmm
12:31 kivilahtio chris_n: I was planing to rewrite our label printer in Java or some lnaguage which implements PDF writing better
12:31 chris_n PDF::Reuse just generates a postscript stream
12:31 tcohen http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNemeeBXI4ub2h6OepA0tP2ML1tT_HybL
12:31 chris_n but its been awhile since I've messed with the internals
12:32 chris_n the best solution is probably a CSS based label tool
12:32 chris_n and scrap PDf altogether
12:32 kivilahtio hmm
12:32 kivilahtio chris_n: there might be a ready solution for that already
12:33 chris_n cait: actually we don't do that any longer, but I think single-quoting it should work
12:33 chris_n kivilahtio: I'm all for ready solutions :)
12:34 cait chris_n: I have answered him, keeping fingers crossed :)
12:34 kivilahtio chris_n: Sorry, not on my urgent issues -list, but I was planning to use some other language module to create the transformation. Just asking. Take care!
12:34 cait thx for the help
12:35 chris_n cait: yw
12:35 kivilahtio maybe some day...
12:35 cait kivilahtio: hm there are things for that
12:35 * chris_n keeps saying that too ;-)
12:35 cait my scrolling is broken again hmpf
12:36 cait kivilahtio: i was wondering if you had seen that you can map fonts in koha-conf
12:36 chris_n I started on a css solution once, but time is just not there
12:36 cait kivilahtio: i tested it with hebrew and arabic i think, not all fonts work the same, but some are ok
12:37 kivilahtio cait: I saw some modifications to koha-conf, but never perused deeper what they are
12:37 cait I recently tested bug 12068 with it
12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Passed QA , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages
12:37 cait and hebrew
12:37 kivilahtio cait: Thanks for the tip! I can take a peek there... some day :)
12:37 cait bug 8375 i think was the one adding it
12:37 chris_n tcohen: cool! tnx!
12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Master , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
12:38 cait hm or maybe not
12:38 cait bug 9854
12:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375)
12:39 cait hm confusng
12:39 cait basially what you do is install the ttf-dejavu and then add some lines to koha-conf
12:39 cait and i hope we have doucmented that somewhere, else i can post you mine
12:41 * cait hopes she didn't confuse too much
12:49 magnuse kivilahtio: yay for koha in lappland! so you know if they will translate koha to sami?
12:49 kivilahtio magnuse: No idea. I doubt their sami is the same as yours?
12:49 kivilahtio or is it?
12:50 kivilahtio The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized. at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/NewsChannels.pm line 212 ??
12:51 kivilahtio just ran the db installer for all default values in kohamaster?
12:52 magnuse opl is doing good, working on getting a nice continuous delivery/deployment workflow going
12:53 magnuse kivilahtio: we have several sami dialects in norway, so probably not the same
12:54 kivilahtio magnuse: Do you pay all of them to preserve their natural language heritage?
12:55 akafred http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_languages - but they have "News in Sami" broadcast in "Northern Sami" in all Nordic countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%C4%91%C4%91asat
12:56 magnuse i do hope/think there is some state support to keep the languages alive, yes
12:59 magnuse @wunder boo
12:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (1:50 PM CET on October 27, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Rising).
12:59 magnuse make that "heavy hail showers"...
13:06 druthb @wunder 77063
13:07 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Piney Point Village, TX, Houston, Texas is 18.3°C (8:06 AM CDT on October 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
13:16 kivilahtio Is it normal to not include systempreferences when installing a new Koha?
13:17 magnuse as in "leaving the systempreferences table empty"?
13:17 kivilahtio magnuse: I got 'Version' 'marcflavour' 'FrameworksLoaded' sysprefs set
13:18 kivilahtio I couldn't open mainpage.pl because 'dateformat' was not set
13:18 kivilahtio magnuse: I think those three sysprefs I got are set during the installation process.
13:19 magnuse sounds like some sql file was not loaded
13:19 kivilahtio magnuse: sysprefs.sql
13:19 wahanui sysprefs.sql is new for me lol
13:20 magnuse http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql;h=600279d33a31c494d1c9e92c99e5b4dc8170ef4f;hb=HEAD
13:20 magnuse yup
13:21 tcohen #koha: looks like Alvet recorded kohacon14 presentations http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNemeeBXI4ub2h6OepA0tP2ML1tT_HybL
13:21 cait tcohen: sneaky alvet :)
13:41 clrh_ does someone can tell me if the captcha here is usefull ? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Special:RequestAccount is there problems with spamming bots ? (trying to maintain another community wiki and it is a nightmare ;)
13:41 clrh (and hello people... hum)
13:43 cait hi clrh
13:43 cait i think wht helped was that you have to manually create the accounts
13:43 cait before the wiki was spammed too
13:43 cait now a few people go through the requests manually and confirm the account
13:44 clrh cait: but does the mailbox spammed ? (the users who request account)
13:44 cait hm it's not too bad i think
13:44 clrh ok ! spam bots does go to this page
13:44 clrh does *not*
13:44 clrh ok so it will be my next move ;)
13:44 cait it's worth trying :)
13:44 cait i think rangi said the problem were human spammers
13:44 cait not so much bots, but real people?
13:44 clrh I am trying things since 1 week actually
13:45 cait clrh: it was too much work to keep cleaning the wiki in the end
13:45 clrh if bots don't go to Special:RequestAccount page, it os ok !
13:45 clrh yep I see...
13:45 cait hm 2 waiting for being reviewed right now
13:45 clrh my todolist see that too
13:45 clrh great
13:45 cait the first one looks alright, the second might be spam
13:49 clrh thanks cait
14:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12590 - Support deletion of biblio in svc API <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca756f44d76df3074b4b53c97898f26ede65a711> / Bug 12871 - wthdrawn instead of withdrawn in ILSDI <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ff9f513ed6b901099571c89cd716f9248332729> / Bug 12900: (consistency followup) add buildBiblioDefaultViewURL to MARC21 XSLT <http://git.koha-community.or
15:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #197: UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/197/
15:00 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12031: Task Scheduler not sending mail
15:00 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 12031: (QA followup) adding supportdir to koha-conf.xml
15:00 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 12031: [QA Follow-up] Undefined routine and change to koha-conf.xml
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530: Adding sysprefs and making changes to the branch table
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530: Adding a new Koha::Email module
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9350: Making changes so that you can add the new fields to branches
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530: Making changes to C4::Letters
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530 making changes to basket/sendbasket.pl
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530 making changes to opac/opac-sendbasket.pl
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530 making changes to opac/opac-sendshelf.pl
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , Task Scheduler not sending mail
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9530 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Allow separate 'Reply To' and 'From' email address for notices
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530 making changes to virtualshelves/sendshelf.pl
15:00 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9530 Making changes to misc/cronjobs/runreport.pl
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9350 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Don't block bulk holds if one or more titles have no items
15:00 jenkins_koha * Martin Renvoize: Bug 9530: Replace tabs with spaces
15:00 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9530: DBRev 3.17.00.032
15:00 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9530: Update DBIx
15:00 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13138: Remove jQuery plugins which were used by Solr
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13138 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove jQuery plugins which were used by Solr
15:00 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12900: IntranetBiblioDefaultView doesn't do anything with NORMARC or UNIMARC XSLT
15:00 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12900: (consistency followup) add buildBiblioDefaultViewURL to MARC21 XSLT
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12900 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , IntranetBiblioDefaultView doesn't do anything with NORMARC or UNIMARC XSLT
15:00 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12871 - wthdrawn instead of withdrawn in ILSDI
15:00 jenkins_koha * Petter Goksoyr Asen: Bug 12590 - Support deletion of biblio in svc API
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12871 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , wthdrawn instead of withdrawn in ILSDI
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, boutrosboutrosboutros, Pushed to Master , Support deletion of biblio in svc API
15:05 cait confetti!
15:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:07 wajasu did a 3.16.4 debian wheezy package install. did koha-create --create-db test1. no table sin test1, so i ran kohastructure.sql, but still get db maintenance page. how to get webinstaller. I am not using DNS, just 127.0.0.1. what default intra admin url should i use?
15:08 cait hm i think if you don't have dns maybe edit the default site config to make it use ports
15:08 cait i think the default is using a prefix
15:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13088: DBRev 3.17.00.033 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa9230436d034f038ecccff7470bb3d6012d3441> / Bug 13088: Allow the user to specify a max amount of facets to show <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be9dec3e13562fc8b68167b4e1d530d1465187e3> / Bug 13088: Add a syspref so the user can chose the amount of facets to show <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
16:05 reiveune bye
16:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #198: NOW UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/198/
16:15 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13140: Add a notice on the About page about GRS-1 deprecated
16:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13128 - Add span with id for logged in branch name, add hidden span for branchcode
16:15 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13120 - Invalid HTML generated by MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13140 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add a notice on the About page about GRS-1 deprecated
16:15 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: Add a syspref so the user can chose the amount of facets to show
16:15 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: Allow the user to specify a max amount of facets to show
16:15 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 13088: DBRev 3.17.00.033
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13128 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add span with id for logged in branch name, add hidden span for branchcode
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13120 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Invalid HTML generated by MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Allow the user to specify a max amount of facets to show.
16:39 wajasu cait: thanks. i just added NamedVirtualHost:8080 Listen:8080 to /etc/apache2/ports.conf and changed my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/test1.conf VirtualHost section to have *:8080 and got webinstaller showing with localhost:8080 as web url.
16:58 * cait wavs
16:58 * cait waves
16:59 gaetan_B bye
17:09 cait tcohen: around?
17:09 cait hi alvet - thx for the videos!
17:10 tcohen hi cait
17:10 cait could it be we need a schema update?
17:10 tcohen random power outages here :/
17:10 cait oh noes
17:10 * cait duct tapes tochen to #koha
17:11 tcohen cait: you're talking about the failing tests?
17:11 cait yeah... but you probably checked that
17:12 tcohen maybe the updatedatabase.pl call is failing?
17:12 tcohen but, no
17:12 tcohen i don't think so
17:13 cait hmpf
17:13 cait i don't really see it
17:13 tcohen do the tests fail on your box?
17:14 tcohen that'd be a good starting point
17:14 cait yes they do
17:18 bag hola
17:18 cait hola bag
17:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12844: Force the symbol place in the tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac4544ea472c7bf00894ff6d86317ccb046bc420> / Bug 12844: FIX import package missing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55587f5c346a7b7b8f35e05d88c2112f1de46a9a> / Bug 12844: Use Koha::Number::Price where it can be useful <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4
17:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #199: NOW UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/199/
17:59 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12651: DOM indexing is the default
17:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13139 - Move treeview jQuery plugin outside of language-specific directory
17:59 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 3977: MARC21 321$b has wrong description
17:59 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9828: More specific indexing of UNIMARC 6XX fields
17:59 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: ug 9828 : Add and fix comments in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
17:59 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9828 : Followup for Queryparser and deletion of useless 6XX$9
17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12651 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , DOM indexing should be the default
17:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13080 - Addition of noEnterSubmit class should not apply to textarea, only to input
17:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12844: New module to manage prices into Koha
17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13139 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move treeview jQuery plugin outside of language-specific directory
17:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12844: Remove the C4::Output::FormatNumber subroutine
17:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12844: Use Koha::Number::Price where it can be useful
18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , MARC21 Tag 321b
18:00 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12844: FIX import package missing
18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9828 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 6XX
18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13080 major, P2, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Addition of noEnterSubmit class should not apply to textarea, only to input
18:00 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12844: Force the symbol place in the tests
18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Introduce a centralized way to display prices
18:08 alvet Hi cait, rangi: your welcome. took a while but I finally got there :)
18:15 cait alvet: you are awesome :)
18:16 cait @later tell tcohen fix for branches on bug 9530
18:16 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
18:33 cait could someone sign off bug 13149?
18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13149 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , B 11926 (HEA - Render community koha statistic usages) introduces an column count error in sysprefs.ql
18:33 cait i did a follow up
18:34 cait @tcohen I also have a follow up for bug 13149... :)
18:34 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
18:34 cait @later tell tcohen also got a follow up for the sysprefs probem 13149
18:34 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
19:39 bag heya trea
19:39 * cait waves at bag
19:39 bag heya cait
19:39 bag cait are you in QA mode?
19:39 cait yeah
19:39 cait feature freeze is so close :(
19:40 bag bug 8133 :)
19:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
19:40 cait and ashimema and marcelr are on vacation
19:40 cait i am trying to get to all of them, but it will be pretty close :(
19:40 bag you can PM me some bugs if you have some you want me to look at
19:40 bag I broke a rib on friday - so I'm loopy on pain meds
19:41 cait bug 13149 would be nice - tcohen needs the fix and i wrote the follow up
19:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13149 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Signed Off , B 11926 (HEA - Render community koha statistic usages) introduces an column count error in sysprefs.ql
19:41 bag what a better time to work on QA right?
19:41 bag heh
19:41 cait oh no :(
19:41 cait broken rib sounds painful
19:41 cait what did you do? baseball?
19:41 bag it's super painful
19:41 bag yeah baseball
19:41 cait poor bag
19:42 cait did you eat the chocolate yet?
19:42 bag nope not yet
19:44 cait it's medicine ;)
19:52 wajasu i might try to test bug 12856. can i use a tar dev install to test debian scripts like koha-disable? I think I have time today.
19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12856 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , koha-disable fails without disabling site
19:56 cait wajasu: hm i don't think that will work
19:57 cait you could test with a gitified package install
19:57 cait oh
19:57 cait dev install.... but i tihnk those also only with gitified setup or if you build your own package from a dev
19:57 cait but someone might correct me
20:02 wizzyrea hi
20:02 wajasu I'll try building the packages, its been awhile, but i did it a long time ago. I'll check the wiki. That way I can test ubuntu as well with them.
20:03 cait wajasu: are you trying to test a patch? or just testing the packages in general?
20:03 cait ah, sorry, scrolling back helps
20:05 wajasu if i am going to do package building and have luck, i might research other package related bugs as well. i'll give it a shot. i've been out of the loop for a while.
20:06 wizzyrea the part I recall being hard about making packages was setting up your initial pbuilder environment
20:06 wizzyrea but once it's done it's pretty trivial to build a package.
20:07 wajasu yeah. i did that once, but i ran out of space in my VM image. i am on a 60GB drive and can do a bunch now.
20:09 wajasu if I get that setup, and signed off, i wonder if its OK for me to give someone an ssh account for them to QA and do the same. that what it doesn't have to sit around for months.
20:10 wajasu s/that what/that way/
20:12 wizzyrea actually if you signed off on it, I'm feeling pretty ok that it would be alright to go to QA
20:13 wajasu OK
20:15 wizzyrea especially if you have an ubuntu signoff.
20:15 wizzyrea then we have two, one from wheezy and one from ubuntu.
20:31 barton hey, is there a way to update permissions for an entire patron category?
20:32 cait there are some examples for updating permissions with sql in updatedatabae
20:32 cait but there is no script
20:32 barton mmm.
20:32 barton k. I'll look there. thanks cait.
20:33 wizzyrea that would probably be a good one to have.
20:44 rangi morning
20:44 cait morning
21:23 eythian hi
21:24 cait hi eythian
21:48 dcook "hey, is there a way to update permissions for an entire patron category?"
21:48 dcook I keep meaning to make an enhancement for that...
21:49 * dcook also waves good morning
21:49 rangi nope and congratulations
21:50 dcook Thanks :)
21:50 dcook Sorry, the quotes were for barton's earlier question
21:50 eythian hi cait, dcook
21:50 dcook hey eythian
21:50 cait oh waht did i miss?
21:51 dcook Doctor said that there's a baby dcook on the way :)
21:51 cait woohoo!
21:51 eythian dcook: time to invest in a copy of "Programming Perl" now then eh
21:51 cait congratulations :)
21:51 eythian also, congrats :)
21:51 dcook eythian: You've read my mind
21:52 dcook hehe thanks, cait and eythian :)
21:52 cait ... and i have run out of onesies...
21:52 dcook :o
21:52 dcook I may have been talking about those onesies for a while :p
21:53 dcook I suppose more people need to have Koha babies to necessitate another batch
21:55 cait you could have warned me! heh
21:55 cait well, i tihnk there are still a few months :)
21:55 dcook Yep. I think we're only about 4 weeks along :)
21:57 dcook Now I just need to do all my Australian bureaucracy stuff so hopefully daddy will be an Australian permanent resident before little one is born
21:59 dcook eythian: How is your OSDC talk coming along?
21:59 eythian dcook: it'll be great as soon as I start writing it.
21:59 dcook hehe
21:59 eythian Was hoping to do that yesterday, but sorta didn't
21:59 wizzyrea dcook: TEH SPROG!
21:59 dcook I know the feeling
21:59 eythian today however... :)
22:00 dcook wizzyrea: \o/
22:00 wizzyrea \o/
22:00 dcook eythian: I sort of started writing mine before deciding that I feel bad for future audience members
22:00 dcook wizzyrea: I'm pretty stoked :)
22:00 eythian heh
22:01 wizzyrea *nod*
22:01 wizzyrea I think we all are ^.^
22:02 quocuy Hi everyone. Where can i find all plugins available for Koha?
22:04 rangi nowhere currently
22:04 dcook wizzyrea,eythian: I might be thinking about where to find some of those "coding for babies" books :p
22:04 rangi your new mission is to find some open source software that we could use to host/categorise the plugins ... one that lets people upload new plugins etc
22:04 rangi :)
22:04 rangi and then we can set up contribs.koha-community.org and put them there
22:04 wizzyrea http://codebabies.com/
22:05 eythian dcook: not my field of expertise really :)
22:05 dcook looks like wizzyrea is way ahead of us both anyway :)
22:05 quocuy yeah
22:05 quocuy What about a forum?
22:05 wizzyrea I have a 6+ year headstart. :P
22:06 quocuy a forum, where people can upload new plugins
22:06 dcook wizzyrea: That's perfect. You'll always be ahead of the curve. I know who I'm going to for advice ;).
22:07 wizzyrea rangi is pretty accomplished in this area as well.
22:09 cait btw http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.20
22:09 dcook Hmm, suddenly a flight to Wellington seems like a research trip ;)
22:10 cait we also need to find some parents for our next release baby... or something like that
22:10 dcook quocuy: No idea. I don't really use plugins myself. I would think something a bit more organized than a forum would be good for plugins, but... I don't even really use plugins for other software, so no idea.
22:10 dcook Good call, cait
22:11 eythian IME, forums almost always devolve into a mess
22:11 eythian Some smart wiki templates perhaps could do this. I'm sure I made something like this many years ago for someone.
22:12 quocuy Ok. I finished something like Koha-as-CMS, which i bring Tool/news to separated pages, and remove block news from opac-main.tt
22:12 quocuy And you can check my OPAC here
22:12 rangi sweet!
22:12 quocuy i just want to share it
22:12 quocuy http://tvtl.dreamlib.vn
22:13 eythian I'd start by putting the code into gitorius or something, and finding/making an appropriate place on the wiki.
22:14 rangi thats a good start
22:14 quocuy Ok. So i will do that.
22:14 quocuy Where can i start to write a wiki page?
22:15 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins
22:15 rangi i started one for you :)
22:15 quocuy OK, thanks :)
22:15 rangi just add whatever you think is useful
22:15 quocuy Ok.
22:16 quocuy One more question, how can we automatically display new books ( from some location or collection ) on OPAC? Now in my OPAC, i have to do this handly with HTML?
22:17 quocuy I google, nothing was found
22:17 dcook rangi has done some nifty things using public reports and jquery, I think
22:18 dcook to show new books, quocuy
22:19 quocuy There is a code, when patrons click on it, then it will find all books from one Collection or location, sort by Date ( it means newest to oldest). But i want to show it automatically
22:20 eythian you just link to a search that show what you want to do that
22:20 eythian http://library.org.nz/ <-- see those two dropdowns
22:20 rangi yeah just add it in your opacmainblock
22:20 quocuy I added it, too
22:21 quocuy http://test.dreamlib.vn/
22:21 quocuy see my demo site ( left nav)
22:21 cait eythian: there is some scrip ton the server for that i think, because i tried using it :)
22:21 cait you can build something similar tho
22:21 quocuy but i want to display some images in some tabs in Opacmainuserblock
22:22 eythian cait: I don't think there is
22:23 dcook cait: I think they just have some Javascript that is executed "onchange"
22:23 cait i think ther eis something to pull the locations/collections
22:23 dcook Ahh
22:23 * dcook shuts up
22:24 eythian cait: ah, /cgi-bin/koha/advanced_search_types.json
22:24 cait yep
22:24 eythian I suspect that's a static file
22:25 eythian probably just json of the form [ {code:blah, description:blah}, ... ]
22:25 eythian or similar
22:25 cait yep it is, but not sure if static - would not make much sense
22:26 cait i just know because i copied that form once :)
22:26 eythian http://library.org.nz//cgi-bin/koha/advanced_search_types.json <-- that's what it looks like. Maybe it's generated or something, I dunno.
22:28 quocuy Hi, this is the only thing i found
22:28 quocuy http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/New-books-display-for-koha-td5753253.html
22:29 quocuy but it's not in koha-community :(
22:30 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new-books <-- quocuy, we often use the bits here to do it.
22:30 magnuse https://github.com/ranginui/Koha-recently-acquired-books
22:30 quocuy Ok, let's me check it.
22:31 quocuy Thank you all very much
22:31 magnuse dcook: congrats! and thanks for chronicling your holiday on facebook :-)
22:32 dcook magnuse: Thanks! I think I left off the last week or two, but that's because we got rather busy!
22:33 dcook I think Santorini might've been the last thing I mentioned... after that it was Crete, Hydra, bit of Switzerland, Dublin, Rome.
22:34 dcook Also a creepy AirBnB place in Milan which saw us go to a fancy hotel at the last minute...
22:34 dcook Turns out most hotels need at least 20 minutes to process a reservation through booking.com :p
22:34 dcook Also... hiking 18 kilometres in a few hours make your legs sore for days :p
22:38 magnuse hehe
22:38 magnuse i do remember a brief mention of dublin
22:39 * magnuse gotta catch some sleep - have fun #koha!
22:40 dcook night, magnuse :)
22:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #30 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
23:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #30: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/30/
23:26 jenkins_koha Robin Sheat: Bug 12849 - fix URLs in sent lists
23:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12849 major, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Sending a list has malformed links
23:30 cait dcook: we are overwriting a default i think
23:31 cait before we added it, i didn't get all facets in my tests
23:31 dcook Really?
23:31 cait abou your question on the facets - then we discussed a reasonable new value and concluded in having everyone decide on their own
23:31 dcook Hmm
23:31 dcook Ahh
23:31 cait that#s how i understood at least :) tcohen might have a better answer
23:32 cait but in the first tests i ran in argentina, i was missing facets in comparison to before the patches and we worked on that
23:32 dcook Now that I think about it, I might recall a mention of a default limit before..
23:32 cait i also think it's facets.. not records... but we should test that more i think
23:32 cait hm not sure there
23:32 wahanui rumour has it not sure there is a better way to do it
23:33 * dcook shrugs
23:33 cait you shoudl ask tcohen :)
23:33 dcook It's not super high on my list of priorities anyway :)
23:33 dcook I figure he'll answer the bugzilla comment :)
23:36 cait yep think so too
23:36 cait probably telling you i was wrong :P
23:36 cait ohoh
23:36 dcook ears must've been burning :p
23:36 tcohen hi
23:36 wahanui privet, tcohen
23:37 tcohen talking about me? had the feeling
23:37 cait hi tcohen :)
23:37 cait had a feeling... or got an email sent to your phone that your name was mentioned? :)
23:39 tcohen nah
23:39 tcohen i just sit from my tennis class
23:39 tcohen and found i had to answer dcook a really good question
23:40 tcohen dcook: around?
23:40 dcook Yep
23:40 * cait hides just in case
23:40 tcohen facetNumRec?
23:40 dcook Yeah, I'm curious about it :)
23:41 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
23:41 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
23:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U12 build #27: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U12/27/
23:41 jenkins_koha Robin Sheat: Bug 12849 - fix URLs in sent lists
23:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12849 major, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Sending a list has malformed links
23:41 tcohen the docs are cryptic (dont' tell me you didn't know)
23:41 tcohen but the indexdata people told me to leave it untouched
23:41 tcohen that it was "good enough"
23:41 tcohen the higher the value, the more precise the facets become
23:42 tcohen and slower the indexing, with more space used
23:42 tcohen to make it short, we found that the default value used too little records
23:42 dcook Yeah, that's what cait was saying :(
23:42 cait hm
23:42 cait i am confused about the indexing bit
23:43 cait so if i chance the setting, i need to reindex?
23:43 tcohen and the part realted to the cryptic docs, is that I didn't find a wilcard
23:43 tcohen like "all records in the resultset"
23:43 dcook Mm
23:43 tcohen cait: yes
23:43 cait um ew
23:43 cait so what does it not index if the number is too low?
23:43 tcohen i'll reproduce the email from adam, a sec
23:43 dcook Yeah, I would think the default would be all, but it doesn't sound like it :/
23:44 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "facetNumRecs is number of reco" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/249
23:45 tcohen dcook: give it a try
23:45 cait aah
23:45 tcohen cait: ?
23:45 cait but as i read it, it's like the old setting, but all shoudl be indexed
23:46 cait so it looks for the candidates in facetnumrec records... and then the occurrences are correct for the whole result set
23:46 dcook Looking at Zebra's code atm ;)
23:46 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/dox/html/retrieve_8c_source.html
23:46 tcohen dcook: I did that, that's why I ended asking about those prefs, they are not documented
23:46 tcohen at all
23:47 tcohen cait: yes, so it might not catch the most "interesting" ones, but the count is "real"
23:47 cait that's a lot better than before
23:48 dcook Yeah, not perfect, but better
23:49 tcohen dcook: i think you're looking for line 902
23:49 dcook Yeah, I saw that :S
23:49 wajasu got 2 package based koha instances, test1 test2. i configured test1 80 and 8080 and test2 90 8090, and after restart koha-common/apache2 i can navigate and login fine for each db instance.
23:50 wajasu i see two zebrasrv running, but no results on test2.
23:50 tcohen dcook: one thing that could be improved, and I didn't find how
23:50 wajasu i tried koha-rebuild-zebra test2
23:50 tcohen is retrieving all facets in one query
23:50 wajasu but nothing exported. nothing in zebra logs.
23:51 wajasu yay facets!
23:51 tcohen it is supposed to work
23:51 tcohen *but* if some of the facets is "empty" then a "no_results" is received
23:53 dcook Mmm, yeah, I hate that
23:53 dcook Same thing happens with the opac suppression
23:53 tcohen wajasu: this is all your fault after all
23:53 tcohen you wrote the first POC
23:53 dcook hehe
23:54 wajasu maybe having a facet that always has 1 result, but the query logically filters it (maybe with a key of -1). i tried exporting such a record as part of the zebra export script
23:54 wajasu to guarantee at least one facet to filter.
23:54 tcohen wajasu, interesting workarond :-D
23:54 wajasu my memory is already fading.
23:55 cait good night :)
23:55 tcohen speaking of keys... I forgot to fill a bug for NORMARC
23:56 tcohen the XML doesn't define the <id> element for NORMARC records
23:56 * tcohen is not sure how it is actually working for NORMARC people
23:58 dcook Alas, I think magnuse is sleeping
23:59 tcohen heh, isn't he hibernating?