Time  Nick      Message
23:57 tcohen    hi
21:12 cait      sorry magnuse
20:34 cait      ?
20:34 cait      was that a magnuse appearanceß
20:34 cait      :)
20:12 magnuse   have fun #koha!
20:12 magnuse   just my NOK 0,02
20:12 magnuse   but it's way premature to create a standard like that now, and it's probably better to reuse stuff from others anyway
20:11 magnuse   bibframe is a whole other ballgame
20:11 magnuse   jcamins: it would be nice!
17:29 cait      hi tcohen :)
14:33 * jcamins does not actually believe this will ever happen, but wouldn't it be nice?
14:33 * jcamins had this radical idea of just letting the ILS decide whether it's "p." or "S."
14:32 jcamins   In which case half your records say "S." and half say "p."
14:31 jcamins   Unless you're in a multi-lingual environment.
14:31 talljoy   it's an improvement because it makes cataloging less pedantic and a tad more accessible.
14:30 jcamins   talljoy: I'm not 100% sold on the "don't use Latin" being an improvement... a rule that says "use only properly spelled-out Latin" could make translation possible.
12:34 cait      bbl
12:34 cait      supermarket time :)
12:31 talljoy   indeed
12:28 cait      and a bit worried about the amount of work i tmight cause :)
12:28 cait      I wonder how bibframe will be
12:27 cait      there will be some patches for 264 in 3.18
12:27 cait      but i think it's only a start for now
12:27 cait      marcelr did some work on that
12:27 talljoy   and makes ed work hard adjusting xslt stylesheets so that if one tag is used, display it, if not, then look for other tag and display it.
12:26 talljoy   otherwise, I'm not sure it is an improvement.  It seems like a swap to me.  this tag, not that tag.
12:26 cait      :)
12:26 talljoy   i think the new rule "Don't use Latin" is the best improvement.
12:25 cait      germany is switching to RDA
12:25 cait      :) being a bit careful here
12:24 cait      there is abit more, but i am also a bit doubtful about the improvement
12:24 talljoy   but you get what i mean.
12:24 talljoy   ^ gross oversimplification
12:24 talljoy   just the same old marc, but use 260 instead of 264.
12:23 talljoy   RDA is totally not a help to libraries.
12:23 wahanui   RDA is my cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad
12:23 talljoy   RDA?
12:13 * cait    procrastinates by doing QA
12:12 cait      i have to learn more about RDA soon...
12:11 talljoy   too many people developing their own ways.  makes communication of data difficult.
12:11 talljoy   yes, i think you are right.
12:10 cait      talljoy: i amnot sure the alternative will be better still
12:01 talljoy   all the more reason we should be looking for alternatives to marc formatted data.
12:01 talljoy   the mind boggles......
12:01 talljoy   we had a library interested in catalogin in marc21 and then exporting data in unimarc.
12:00 talljoy   eek.
12:00 * cait    tries to fix her unimarc installation
11:57 talljoy   they have it turned off anyways.  lol
11:57 cait      yeah
11:57 talljoy   thanks.  i'd rather see this library use itemtype and not collection codes.
11:57 cait      kind of :)
11:57 talljoy   same one that turns it on or off!!!
11:57 cait      found it? :)
11:57 talljoy   ha!
11:56 talljoy   gotcha.  which one changes it to itype?
11:56 cait      that said... we are not using that feature yet
11:56 cait      there are 2 prefs, one to turn it on/off and another to switch between collections and itemtpyes
11:55 cait      there is a pref to switch that
11:55 talljoy   hey cait do you know anything about the Library Transfer Limits?  I'm curious why it references collection codes and not item types?
11:55 cait      libraries... and we still love them :)
11:54 talljoy   all in a days work.
11:54 talljoy   lol
11:54 talljoy   them: no!
11:53 talljoy   me: can i move that tag for you?  into notes or the item tag?
11:53 cait      ew
11:53 talljoy   for example.  "We will just die if we don't know what the legacy tag from 3 migrations ago says"
11:53 talljoy   we have one that we see a lot 035$a OCLC number.  but we get some that have really specific indexing needs.  907$q
11:52 cait      talljoy: we got some too... but the same for all of them at least
11:52 talljoy   if you want to search that data PUT IT IN A NORMAL TAG
11:52 tcohen    just saying that is always the reason
11:52 tcohen    heh
11:52 cait      lol
11:52 talljoy   custom indexes are the death of me.
11:52 talljoy   shut your mouth
11:51 tcohen    locally defined indexes migration
11:51 cait      kind of understandable
11:51 talljoy   so the bigger they are, the more cautious they tend to be.
11:50 talljoy   cait yes i think they were an early adopter of it and they are big.
11:50 talljoy   enjoy the day!
11:50 talljoy   yes!  baby room
11:50 cait      have fun tcohen :) and say hi to cecilia
11:50 tcohen    yeah
11:50 cait      baby first:)
11:50 cait      but I haven't seen any bug reports or problem reported for a long time now
11:50 tcohen    i promise to push, tomorrow
11:50 cait      there might have beensomething
11:50 tcohen    leaving now
11:50 cait      i think if they started really really early trying dom
11:49 cait      heh
11:49 talljoy   :-D
11:49 talljoy   i'll pass a note to larry and melissa and ask them.  they will know.  and maybe deprecation will be the push they need to say.  'tough. you're getting dom'
11:49 talljoy   and we cannot convince them otherwise.
11:48 tcohen    if they have reasons, we can fix that
11:48 talljoy   unknown.  probably some completely unrelated to searching but they blamed DOM
11:48 tcohen    talljoy: i'm interested on them
11:48 cait      talljoy: hm, what's their reason?
11:48 talljoy   and we have a library hanging on to grs1  ugh.
11:48 cait      hm maybe somewhere in packages but i think dom is already default there
11:47 cait      i will keep my eyes out but i think grs1 looks pretty complete now
11:47 cait      and push patches? :P
11:47 tcohen    just in case
11:47 tcohen    during weekend i'll try to look for  further checks/messgaes related to grs1 deprecation
11:46 tcohen    :-D
11:46 talljoy   i sign off on it
11:46 cait      tcohen: your color choices pass qa :)
11:45 cait      yep
11:45 tcohen    :-D
11:45 talljoy   nice!  happy sunny colors
11:45 tcohen    and some yellow
11:45 talljoy   yay!!!
11:45 tcohen    we are between a light green
11:45 talljoy   green!
11:45 tcohen    we are about to leave to buy the color
11:44 wahanui   which color is it?
11:44 cait      which color?
11:44 cait      cool!
11:43 tcohen    we are painting Manuel's room :-D
11:43 cait      tcohen: what are your plans for today? :)
11:43 cait      :)
11:43 cait      wow, hope they are careful with the marching then
11:42 talljoy   early!  sun is not up yet!
11:42 cait      :)
11:42 talljoy   i had to drop off a kid at early morning marching band practice.
11:42 cait      tcohen: trying to get the number down, but people keep signing off ... tsk:)
11:42 tcohen    morning talljoy
11:42 talljoy   no, that's tonight.
11:42 cait      morning talljoy - migrating libraries today? :)
11:41 talljoy   good morning you two!
11:41 tcohen    no, i wanted to thank you :-D
11:41 cait      are you here to distract me from qa? :)
11:41 cait      hi tcohen :)
11:41 tcohen    hi cait
11:39 cait      akafred: sounds... fun? :)
11:10 akafred   "geekend" at my company :-) right now: clojure workshop
11:07 cait      what about you?
11:06 cait      ah not really :) having some koha weekend fun ;)
11:06 akafred   Hi Katrin - 6 day work week?
11:05 cait      hi akafred
09:40 cait      time to do some qa i guess :)
09:39 cait      fredericd++ :)
09:00 huginn    cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 8.5°C (10:59 AM CEST on October 25, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
08:59 cait      @wunder Konstanz