Time Nick Message 08:59 cait @wunder Konstanz 09:00 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 8.5°C (10:59 AM CEST on October 25, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 09:39 cait fredericd++ :) 09:40 cait time to do some qa i guess :) 11:05 cait hi akafred 11:06 akafred Hi Katrin - 6 day work week? 11:06 cait ah not really :) having some koha weekend fun ;) 11:07 cait what about you? 11:10 akafred "geekend" at my company :-) right now: clojure workshop 11:39 cait akafred: sounds... fun? :) 11:41 tcohen hi cait 11:41 cait hi tcohen :) 11:41 cait are you here to distract me from qa? :) 11:41 tcohen no, i wanted to thank you :-D 11:41 talljoy good morning you two! 11:42 cait morning talljoy - migrating libraries today? :) 11:42 talljoy no, that's tonight. 11:42 tcohen morning talljoy 11:42 cait tcohen: trying to get the number down, but people keep signing off ... tsk:) 11:42 talljoy i had to drop off a kid at early morning marching band practice. 11:42 cait :) 11:42 talljoy early! sun is not up yet! 11:43 cait wow, hope they are careful with the marching then 11:43 cait :) 11:43 cait tcohen: what are your plans for today? :) 11:43 tcohen we are painting Manuel's room :-D 11:44 cait cool! 11:44 cait which color? 11:44 wahanui which color is it? 11:45 tcohen we are about to leave to buy the color 11:45 talljoy green! 11:45 tcohen we are between a light green 11:45 talljoy yay!!! 11:45 tcohen and some yellow 11:45 talljoy nice! happy sunny colors 11:45 tcohen :-D 11:45 cait yep 11:46 cait tcohen: your color choices pass qa :) 11:46 talljoy i sign off on it 11:46 tcohen :-D 11:47 tcohen during weekend i'll try to look for further checks/messgaes related to grs1 deprecation 11:47 tcohen just in case 11:47 cait and push patches? :P 11:47 cait i will keep my eyes out but i think grs1 looks pretty complete now 11:48 cait hm maybe somewhere in packages but i think dom is already default there 11:48 talljoy and we have a library hanging on to grs1 ugh. 11:48 cait talljoy: hm, what's their reason? 11:48 tcohen talljoy: i'm interested on them 11:48 talljoy unknown. probably some completely unrelated to searching but they blamed DOM 11:48 tcohen if they have reasons, we can fix that 11:49 talljoy and we cannot convince them otherwise. 11:49 talljoy i'll pass a note to larry and melissa and ask them. they will know. and maybe deprecation will be the push they need to say. 'tough. you're getting dom' 11:49 talljoy :-D 11:49 cait heh 11:50 cait i think if they started really really early trying dom 11:50 tcohen leaving now 11:50 cait there might have beensomething 11:50 tcohen i promise to push, tomorrow 11:50 cait but I haven't seen any bug reports or problem reported for a long time now 11:50 cait baby first:) 11:50 tcohen yeah 11:50 cait have fun tcohen :) and say hi to cecilia 11:50 talljoy yes! baby room 11:50 talljoy enjoy the day! 11:50 talljoy cait yes i think they were an early adopter of it and they are big. 11:51 talljoy so the bigger they are, the more cautious they tend to be. 11:51 cait kind of understandable 11:51 tcohen locally defined indexes migration 11:52 talljoy shut your mouth 11:52 talljoy custom indexes are the death of me. 11:52 cait lol 11:52 tcohen heh 11:52 tcohen just saying that is always the reason 11:52 talljoy if you want to search that data PUT IT IN A NORMAL TAG 11:52 cait talljoy: we got some too... but the same for all of them at least 11:53 talljoy we have one that we see a lot 035$a OCLC number. but we get some that have really specific indexing needs. 907$q 11:53 talljoy for example. "We will just die if we don't know what the legacy tag from 3 migrations ago says" 11:53 cait ew 11:53 talljoy me: can i move that tag for you? into notes or the item tag? 11:54 talljoy them: no! 11:54 talljoy lol 11:54 talljoy all in a days work. 11:55 cait libraries... and we still love them :) 11:55 talljoy hey cait do you know anything about the Library Transfer Limits? I'm curious why it references collection codes and not item types? 11:55 cait there is a pref to switch that 11:56 cait there are 2 prefs, one to turn it on/off and another to switch between collections and itemtpyes 11:56 cait that said... we are not using that feature yet 11:56 talljoy gotcha. which one changes it to itype? 11:57 talljoy ha! 11:57 cait found it? :) 11:57 talljoy same one that turns it on or off!!! 11:57 cait kind of :) 11:57 talljoy thanks. i'd rather see this library use itemtype and not collection codes. 11:57 cait yeah 11:57 talljoy they have it turned off anyways. lol 12:00 * cait tries to fix her unimarc installation 12:00 talljoy eek. 12:01 talljoy we had a library interested in catalogin in marc21 and then exporting data in unimarc. 12:01 talljoy the mind boggles...... 12:01 talljoy all the more reason we should be looking for alternatives to marc formatted data. 12:10 cait talljoy: i amnot sure the alternative will be better still 12:11 talljoy yes, i think you are right. 12:11 talljoy too many people developing their own ways. makes communication of data difficult. 12:12 cait i have to learn more about RDA soon... 12:13 * cait procrastinates by doing QA 12:23 talljoy RDA? 12:23 wahanui RDA is my cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad 12:23 talljoy RDA is totally not a help to libraries. 12:24 talljoy just the same old marc, but use 260 instead of 264. 12:24 talljoy ^ gross oversimplification 12:24 talljoy but you get what i mean. 12:24 cait there is abit more, but i am also a bit doubtful about the improvement 12:25 cait :) being a bit careful here 12:25 cait germany is switching to RDA 12:26 talljoy i think the new rule "Don't use Latin" is the best improvement. 12:26 cait :) 12:26 talljoy otherwise, I'm not sure it is an improvement. It seems like a swap to me. this tag, not that tag. 12:27 talljoy and makes ed work hard adjusting xslt stylesheets so that if one tag is used, display it, if not, then look for other tag and display it. 12:27 cait marcelr did some work on that 12:27 cait but i think it's only a start for now 12:27 cait there will be some patches for 264 in 3.18 12:28 cait I wonder how bibframe will be 12:28 cait and a bit worried about the amount of work i tmight cause :) 12:31 talljoy indeed 12:34 cait supermarket time :) 12:34 cait bbl 14:30 jcamins talljoy: I'm not 100% sold on the "don't use Latin" being an improvement... a rule that says "use only properly spelled-out Latin" could make translation possible. 14:31 talljoy it's an improvement because it makes cataloging less pedantic and a tad more accessible. 14:31 jcamins Unless you're in a multi-lingual environment. 14:32 jcamins In which case half your records say "S." and half say "p." 14:33 * jcamins had this radical idea of just letting the ILS decide whether it's "p." or "S." 14:33 * jcamins does not actually believe this will ever happen, but wouldn't it be nice? 17:29 cait hi tcohen :) 20:11 magnuse jcamins: it would be nice! 20:11 magnuse bibframe is a whole other ballgame 20:12 magnuse but it's way premature to create a standard like that now, and it's probably better to reuse stuff from others anyway 20:12 magnuse just my NOK 0,02 20:12 magnuse have fun #koha! 20:34 cait :) 20:34 cait was that a magnuse appearanceß 20:34 cait ? 21:12 cait sorry magnuse 23:57 tcohen hi