Time Nick Message 00:35 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 01:35 eythian So I need to design an API for Koha to allow borrower management. 01:35 eythian I'm thinking of extending ILS-DI, unless there are better ideas. 01:37 eythian Hmm, I might use the /svc API as it already understand authentication. 04:44 rangi i think extending the svc/ bit is probably be the best 04:50 eythian yeah, that's what I settled on, ils-di being more for opac operations 06:42 reiveune hello 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:57 wahanui salut, alex_a 07:00 * Oak waves 07:00 Oak Ahoy cait 07:00 Oak magnuse 07:14 cait ahoy magnuse :) 07:14 cait hi Oak 07:26 Oak how are ya cait :) 07:26 Oak I saw the uploaded pictures and looked like you guy had a great time at KohaCon. 07:28 Oak guys, is this a bug? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-October/041131.html 07:35 cait Oak: sorry, not at my desk much right now :) 07:35 cait it was awesome in Argentina :) 07:35 Oak coool :) 07:36 Oak np cait, later. 07:37 cait Oak: not a bug that you can't set waiting manuall 07:37 cait y 07:37 cait you can check in the book again and then it should print a slip again 07:37 cait with the new patron and go back into waiting 07:39 Oak cait: what if I pressed ignore on that check-in screen? 07:39 Oak now, how will an email be generated to the next in queue patron that the book is waiting for pickup? 07:40 Oak oh i get it. 07:40 Oak you mean to check-in an already checked-in book.... 07:40 gaetan_B hello 07:40 wahanui hola, gaetan_B 07:41 Oak cait: hmm. got it. 07:41 Oak hello gaetan_B 09:22 cait Oak: you can check it in again i think 09:22 cait ah sorry, running around lots today 09:28 Oak cait: np. got it. 09:28 Oak :) 09:28 Oak things must have piled up at work after you guys return from KohaCon 11:04 magnuse cait, Oak: today is my stay-at-home-with-kiddo-day, so i'm not really here :-) 11:25 Oak okay magnuse :) nice! 11:26 Oak later guys. 11:34 cait :) tcohen! 11:54 oleonard Hi #koha 12:00 ashimema Hi #koha 12:19 francharb good morning #koha 12:22 talljoy good morning #koha 12:23 talljoy good morning tcohen 12:23 oleonard Why is "sudo service koha-zebra-daemon start" giving me the error "Invalid --user argument: 'koha.koha' (unknown user koha)" 12:23 tcohen morning talljoy 12:27 tcohen @later tell rangi i'm seeing this error on jenkins http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/193/console 12:27 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:34 tcohen http://snag.gy/ePlpd.jpg 12:44 tcohen bug 11944 12:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 12:44 tcohen t/Charset.t is failing with that 12:44 cait hm interesting 12:44 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad 12:45 cait maybe we are testing weird behaviour? which tests fail? 12:45 cait ashimema++ 12:45 cait bug 13019 need ssignoff... 12:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects 12:47 tcohen "verify octets are not valid UTF-8" 12:48 tcohen ah 12:48 tcohen it is using the utf8* tools 12:50 tcohen ah, no 12:51 oleonard Anyone know why is "sudo service koha-zebra-daemon start" giving me the error "Invalid --user argument: 'koha.koha' (unknown user koha)" ? 12:54 tcohen grep koha /etc/passwd 12:54 tcohen grep -q koha /etc/passwd || echo "User koha not defined" 12:56 oleonard I see, thanks tcohen 12:56 tcohen if you are on a dev setup 12:56 tcohen maybe you should change the init script to match the current user 12:56 tcohen (yours) 12:57 tcohen cait: can u confirm the biblibre/ft/bug_11944 branch is failing Charset.t? 12:57 ashimema nice desktop tcohen 12:57 tcohen :-D 12:59 ashimema cait.. was just about to copy my thoughts about bug 13019 added to bug 12892 to the other bug.. 13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13019 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add base classes on which to build Koha objects 13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen 13:00 ashimema hopefully it might get some movement on them again ;) 13:03 cait tcohen: not right now sorry, working on something 13:03 cait i can try when i get home? 13:04 oleonard tcohen shall not be refused! FEAR HIS WRATH! 13:04 tcohen hmpf 13:04 tcohen no alfajores for cait 13:06 ashimema tcohen, have you cast your eye's over the koha::objects stuff much.. ? 13:06 * cait got her own still :P 13:07 ashimema wondered if you could give any comments on the bug ;) 13:07 tcohen we've worked with that during the hackfest 13:07 tcohen with Joubu and rangi 13:07 ashimema what were your feeling/thoughts 13:08 ashimema none of them went onto bugzilla ;) 13:08 tcohen i don't like the code, but it seems pretty handy 13:08 tcohen the result was compact and readable code 13:09 ashimema have you seen pianohackers work on Koha::Services? 13:10 tcohen ashimema: no 13:10 ashimema https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/commit/b0778d4f676cabbe69f7d67c84667fe633868fda 13:10 tcohen cait: IsStringUTF8ish is used for several marc conversions, so a sensitive one 13:11 ashimema They relate fairly nicely to the Objects.. 13:11 ashimema and make me start asking questions of the objects again.. 13:11 * ashimema should probably go get back to normal work again 13:12 cait I don't care by now how we do it 13:12 cait but we need to move in one direction 13:13 tcohen ashimema: impressive 13:13 ashimema my gut is telling me that with the current koha:objects stuff we're basically going to end up building dbix::class again.. on top of dbix::class 13:13 ashimema which seems a bit maddening.. 13:14 * ashimema would like to point out that he's spent the last three weeks or so buildig a module on top of both koha::objects and koha::services 13:14 ashimema to see how they fit together. 13:14 tcohen ashimema: what i saw was some syntactic sugar for building more readable code, but havent gone through it 13:14 jcamins ashimema: my gut said that too. 13:14 tcohen the RM shouldn't host a conference at the same time 13:15 ashimema haha.. poor tcohen.. 13:15 ashimema sending cookies 13:15 tcohen you get too worried about organizational stuff, and cannot focus on Koha 13:16 tcohen well, it is Koha, but away from the technicall stuff 13:16 ashimema https://github.com/mrenvoize/Koha/tree/ill_master 13:16 ashimema there's my crazily hasty work to date on implimenting a new module using both koha::objects and koha::services. 13:16 ashimema if anyone's interested.. 13:17 tcohen anyone working on the UTF8 patches, please take a look at IsStringUTF8ish mis-behaving on the branch 13:17 ashimema it's in many messy commits thus far.. and need tidying still.. but as a proof of concept on working with those two it's not too bad. 13:21 tcohen what will you call the endpoint? 13:21 tcohen /api/v1/ ? 13:21 tcohen please? 13:21 ashimema haha.. could do ;) 13:22 tcohen please :-D 13:22 ashimema at the moment I've just added an /svc/ill 13:22 ashimema but i was planning to do exactly as you suggest.. /api/*version*/ill 13:23 ashimema along those lines at least.. 13:23 ashimema I'de like a really clear distinction between 'the new way' and 'the old way'/'the old ways' 13:23 cait :) 13:23 tcohen do u need the 'iññ' namespace at all? 13:23 cait tcohen: maybe leave a comment on the bug if you haven't yet - might wake up dpavlin 13:23 tcohen sorry ill 13:23 jcamins iññ? 13:24 * ashimema is really opinionated about api's now 13:24 tcohen jcamins: it's a wrongly written 'ill' word 13:24 ashimema ill is not so much a namespace as a route 13:24 jcamins Ah. 13:25 ashimema though perhaps it could just be /api/version/router (with all routes defined in that file).. but I like to have seperation on concerns more than that.. 13:25 ashimema so.. you'de query the api via /api/*version*/ill[thing you want to do] 13:26 tcohen but if you are implementing /checkout for ill, maybe is not ill specific 13:26 tcohen that's what I meant 13:26 ashimema 'get ~/ill/:id' for example returning the entire ILL object with specified id 13:26 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt is it possible that the idea of IsStringUTF8ish is to be loose regarding UTF-8 validity? 13:26 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:27 ashimema the ill object is meant to only handle the 'requests' workflow.. 13:27 cait i like having it by module i think - it will be good as it grows 13:27 tcohen ok 13:27 ashimema I'de expect the 'checkout' action to get passed on to a ~/circ/ api route 13:27 cait being more obvious what we are doing there 13:27 ashimema does that make sense? 13:27 * cait thinks it does 13:28 jcamins tcohen: _I_ want an iññ namespace. 13:29 ashimema my Koha::Service::ILL module is a bit of a hackup at the minute though.. very much a work in progress.. 13:29 ashimema There's stuff in there that should really be factored out into the other modules/namespaces.. 13:30 tcohen cait: will you ask Holger for some notes about his feature? 13:30 ashimema and i've also kinda decided I don't like the 'Request' object being under a Borrower object.. it made sense at first.. but makes less sense now we've worked on it somemore ;) 13:31 ashimema When do you need those shib ntoes for tcohen.. trying to schedule stuff around leave next week ;) 13:31 tcohen asap 13:31 cait tcohen: there is a wiki page :) 13:31 ashimema k.. will do it before I go away then 13:31 ashimema thanks 13:32 cait tcohen: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Automatic_renewal_RFC 13:40 cait hmmm what would you tell a library that asks how to import checkouts, subscriptions etc. into koha? 13:40 cait do we have scripts somewhere? i thought there were some migration tools somewhere, but too blind to spot them right now 13:40 cait question on the german mailing list 13:42 ashimema from a random system.. they'll probably need to write their own scripts.. that's kinda the support providers bread and butter ;) 13:42 ashimema there isn't just a standard form to stick it in koha via a pre-written script out there.. 13:43 ashimema best stating point might be eythian's repo.. 13:43 ashimema he's got a repo of such scripts.. but it's only a starting place ;) 13:46 cait hmmm 13:46 cait i think i am going to tell them that they are normally written to the database with custom written scripts 13:46 cait and point to the database structure? 13:49 tcohen cait: that's a good answer 13:51 ashimema good answer cait 13:54 * cait rewards herself with alfajores 13:55 cait or more one... what's the singular? 13:55 tcohen alfajor 13:56 cait aah 13:56 cait my next spanish calss is tomorrow... i am worried :) didn't learn my vocabulary! 13:57 cait hm vocabulary words? 13:57 * oleonard googled alfajores and is hungry now 13:58 oleonard http://www.recipegirl.com/2009/03/30/how-to-make-homemade-alfajores/ 14:01 cait mmh 14:05 ashimema I've written a quick splurge on Shib tcohen.. 14:05 ashimema on trello.. 14:05 ashimema might be a bit sprawling.. shout if you would like me to cut it down. 14:06 ashimema man those look tasty 14:09 * cait thinks htat jcamins should make some alfajores and share with oleonard :) 14:14 * jcamins thinks that any alfajores he makes would need chocolate to offset the stress of the fact that he's having his bathroom renovated in four weeks. 14:14 jcamins A lot of chocolate. 14:14 jcamins In fact, I think the alfajores might be too much work. 14:15 jcamins Just send me all the chocolate. 14:15 cait lol 14:18 * oleonard makes a big batch of chocolate-filled alfajores, then scrapes out all the chocolate to send to jcamins 14:18 cait hm 15:29 oleonard khall around? 15:29 khall waht's up? 15:30 oleonard I'm confused about Bug 12632 15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12632 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Hold limits ignored for record level holds with item level itemtypes 15:30 oleonard It makes sense that a hold limit by itemtype doesn't work if the two records lack a biblio-level itemtype? 15:31 khall yes, if you haven't set a biblio-level itemtype you'll get the same pre-patch behavior 15:33 oleonard And the pre-patch behavior is that hold limitations by itemtype don't work for item-level holds? 15:33 oleonard Sorry, don't work for item-level itemtypes? 15:37 khall that is correct 15:38 oleonard So the fix is intended to enable hold limitation by itemtype for records which have both biblio-level itemtype and item-level itemtype? 15:38 oleonard ...but only if they are identical? 15:38 khall not, they don't don't to be identical 15:39 khall If the hold is an item-level hold, it will use the limitations based on the item's itemtype 15:39 khall if the holds is record-level, it will use the limitations based on the record's itemtype 15:39 khall but it makes the most sense to have them match 15:40 oleonard Pity the library which has circulating and non-circulating items attached to the same record. 15:42 oleonard having item-level itemtypes should make biblio-level itemtypes irrelevant 15:43 khall that would be nice, but record level holds are getting in the way ; ) 15:44 khall oleonard: this new system still won't let the system trap and non-circulating item for a hold 15:44 khall s/and/a 16:00 oleonard I'm thinking of testing Bug 5010 but I'm not sure I have enough provisions to make it through the test plan 16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol 16:01 oleonard Hi hbraum 16:02 hbraum hi oleonard :) i know i need to be in here more often! 16:03 gaetan_B byez 16:07 cbrannon Hi hbraum! 16:07 hbraum hi cbrannon! I’m actually in IRC…for a few minutes…shocking, I know :) 16:07 cbrannon You rebel. 16:07 hbraum heading out in 30 minutes to train a new staff member at one of our libraries. 16:07 hbraum i plead the fifht. 16:08 hbraum fifth. 16:09 cbrannon hbraum, I did something bad. 16:10 hbraum uh oh…what did you do? 16:11 cbrannon I haven't been able to touch my Koha VM since the meeting. I can't remember my credentials! So, I am trying to build a new one. And I can't for the life of me remember which set of instructions we worked with at the meeting. Do you? 16:13 hbraum Let me get a couple of things done and then see if I still have my notes somewhere. And I haven’t touched mine either. 16:13 ashimema brannon.. surely you can boot into single user mode and change the root passwords ;) 16:14 ashimema for the existing vm that is.. 16:14 cbrannon Thanks. I'll keep scouring. I just remember what we used at the meeting seemed to work the best. 16:14 ashimema sorry.. randomly butting in ;) 16:15 cbrannon ashimema, if I was a seasoned pro at debian, perhaps. I'm still getting adjusted to the environment. 16:16 ashimema https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password 16:16 ashimema http://xmodulo.com/how-to-reset-root-password-in-debian-ubuntu.html 16:17 ashimema tere's a few guides to it.. us admins are notorious for forgetting such important information aye ;) 16:17 ashimema anywho.. feel free to do whichever.. though this may say you the time of starting form scratch ;) 16:17 ashimema have fun 16:19 cbrannon Thanks. I've bookmarked these resources. However, I still need to build from the ground up. I want to make sure I understand it all, and I need a box on my desktop. Last one was on my personal laptop. 16:20 ashimema coolios.. well shout if you ever need any deb help.. there's plenty of us here that'l happily advise ;) 16:20 ashimema have fun :) 16:26 hbraum cbrannon looking now… 16:32 hbraum cbrannon this is all i can find at this time; not sure how complete the notes are. I know we did more, though that day… https://docs.google.com/document/d/1honm9n7Yb1h-kngVOYPuCdtmnqRU6OI3fZsKg4OXqA0/edit?usp=sharing 16:32 hbraum i’ve got a couple of things about webim and iceweasel? browser? but those notes aren’t making much sense at this point. 16:33 hbraum i have to make handout copies and head out the door — library is 45 minutes away. Good luck! 16:33 hbraum bye 16:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 16:49 mtompset I have a question about the last meeting. 16:49 mtompset Specifically 2015. 16:49 mtompset Kohacon. 16:49 wahanui rumour has it kohacon is http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon14/ 16:50 mtompset When is the last day to get a proposal in? 16:52 oleonard Friday 15 August 2014 was the deadline. 16:52 mtompset Ah. 16:53 mtompset Thanks for the information. It is so hard to rally my Filipino friends and colleagues. 16:55 mtompset Crispin put up Zambia. 16:56 mtompset Chrispin Simasiku Sitali put up Zambia without other information. 17:00 oleonard The only information we got from Zambia was the email to the list. I wasn't even they who updated the wiki page. 17:00 oleonard So it hasn't been considered to be a genuine proposal. 17:01 oleonard I think someone may have emailed for more information, but I could be wrong. 17:05 cait oleonard-away: is right, i think brooke put it up on the wiki, but we neverheard more 17:08 mtompset If I pushed for a Filipino proposal up in the next 2-3 weeks, is that time enough for it to be considered for Kohacon 2015? 17:09 cait kohacon15 votes haven't opened yet i think 17:09 cait um 17:09 cait sorry 17:09 cait 2015 is nigeria 17:10 cait unless they say they don't want to do it 17:10 cait and it's a ibt early for 2016 maybe 17:10 mtompset When does the proposal have to be in by? 17:10 mtompset Need a deadline. 17:10 mtompset To force people to follow up. 17:22 cait there is no deadline set yet for 2016 17:22 cait that's more than a year away 17:35 oleonard if we followed the same schedule then the deadline for 2016 would be around August 2015 18:00 oleonard The list of non-enhancement bugs needing signoff is really not that big: I count 43 18:02 rangi yeah kohacon15 is decided already 18:02 rangi unless they say they no longer want it 18:03 rangi they have put up 3 really good proposals 3 years in a row 18:05 oleonard Hi rangi 18:05 rangi heya oleonard 18:05 wahanui oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 18:06 rangi oleonard: i put the number on the dashboard to make it so you dont have to count :) 18:06 rangi Needs Signoff - 186 43 bugs 18:06 rangi i also added totals to the signoffs, and qa columns now so we can see monthly and yearly totals :) 18:07 tcohen rangi: where? 18:07 tcohen (hi :-D) 18:08 rangi tcohen: on the dashboard 18:08 rangi Total - 100 18:08 rangi exactly 100 signoffs in october .. at the moment 18:08 tcohen oh, I see 18:08 tcohen awesome 18:18 cait :) 18:18 cait rangi++ 18:59 oleonard Bye #koha 19:01 cait oleonard++ :) 19:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11586 follow-up, FA framework update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37a0a5983a4a0ff173eade7dfc373688aeed04ed> / Bug 11586 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffd6bd5e3c130d36e0999b3f3001faf7952d3d58> / Bug 11586: Better default framework for UNIMARC - zebra conf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3acefc3191aabb74cc28d 19:50 Rich_T anyone running Koha via hosting company such as Go Daddy? 19:55 mtj Rich_T, some folks use linode and digital-ocean hosting for Koha 19:56 mtj not sure about go-daddy tho 19:57 druthb I don't think it'd work well in a shared-hosting environment; no real easy way to run services and such, like Zebra. But in a VPS system, sure. 19:58 mtj ah yeah, i thought go-daddy might offer a VPS service, rather than shared-hosting 19:59 druthb they might. Linode works Very Well, and at very reasonable prices. 20:00 mtj indeed 20:06 * mtj waves to druthb_away 20:06 mtj ...long time no chat - hope things are well for you :0) 20:46 rangi also godaddy ... ewwww 20:47 rangi they should spend less time shooting elephants and hiring booth babes and more time making a service which doesnt suck 21:01 rangi hmm i need tcohen or bgkriegel here to take the first few hits of the mate for me, so i get the more mellow ones 21:02 cait heh 21:10 cait hm 21:10 cait looking for a usable project management software 21:10 cait found nothing so far 21:10 cait well plan - but that's awful 21:11 * wizzyrea doesn't have any particularly good recommendations there. 21:13 rangi taiga? 21:14 rangi https://taiga.io/ 21:14 rangi https://github.com/taigaio 21:32 cait rangi: thx, looking 21:32 eythian I've had a bit of a play with it, it seems pretty functional and simple. 21:32 eythian also, hi 21:32 cait hi eythian :) 21:42 bgkriegel_ Hola! 21:42 rangi hi bgkriegel_ :) 21:42 bgkriegel_ hi rangi :) 21:43 rangi is pipore an ok brand for mate? 21:43 rangi it seems to taste ok to me .. but im a novice :) 21:43 bgkriegel_ yeah, it's ok 21:44 bgkriegel_ it's piporé, strees on last e, a guarani word 21:44 bgkriegel_ @wunder cordoba, argentina 21:44 huginn bgkriegel_: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 33.6°C (6:40 PM ART on October 23, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 21:44 rangi ahh right 21:44 bgkriegel_ hot 21:44 rangi @wunder nzwn 21:44 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 21:44 rangi not hot 21:44 wizzyrea downright chillly. 21:45 bgkriegel_ hehe 21:45 bgkriegel_ and will be hotter, if forecast is right :( 21:46 rangi http://amigofoods.co.nz/YerbaMate <-- ill try the Rosamonte next time 21:46 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:46 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (11:45 PM CEST on October 23, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 21:47 cait rangi: i win :( 21:48 wizzyrea it's suave 21:48 rangi hehe i got the traditional one, not suave 21:49 wizzyrea haha 21:52 cbrannon Trying to install koha on VMWare. Got it installed, but not sure how to get to the staff interface. If I type "localhost" I see the maintenance page, but can't figure out how to get to the staff side. 21:52 cbrannon Anyone have any ideas? 21:53 bgkriegel_ cbrannon: http://localhost:8080/? 21:54 eythian cbrannon: how did you install it? 21:57 cbrannon eythian: pretty much the way described here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment#Step:_Install_Koha 21:58 cbrannon Except I can't do the first part with the ip addresses. These instructions are on a ubuntu desktop. Can't find any instructions installing in VM on a windows desktop. 21:58 cbrannon with Debian Squeeze 21:58 eythian It's more or less the same. 21:59 cbrannon localhost:8080 just says unable to connect 21:59 eythian yeah, the packages use virtual hosts by default, so you need to modify your /etc/hosts like in the instructions. 22:00 eythian I think it's something like /windows/system32/etc/hosts or similar on windows. 22:00 eythian (also, I wouldn't have gone with squeeze, wheezy has been out for a year or so now.) 22:01 cbrannon I've no idea how to point my host desktop to my vm. 22:01 wizzyrea I recall it was a bit tricky the last time I did it which was ages ago. 22:02 eythian cbrannon: you're going to have to make sure that your desktop can access the IP allocated to the virtual machine. 22:02 eythian I don't know vmware, so can't help there. 22:24 tcohen hi there 22:24 eythian hi tcohen 22:24 rangi hi tcohen 22:25 bgkriegel_ question: fieldmapping table is empty by default? 22:25 bgkriegel_ hi tcohen 22:25 tcohen hi bgkriegel_ 22:25 rangi what is that table even for? 22:25 rangi https://mahara.org/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=6509 <-- we need our own song too 22:25 bgkriegel_ checking bug 13083 22:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13083 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Hard-coded " by " in opac-tags.pl 22:25 eythian it's that keyword buisiness 22:26 rangi ahh 22:26 rangi hmm 22:26 eythian | id | field | frameworkcode | fieldcode | subfieldcode | 22:26 eythian +----+---------------------------+---------------+-----------+--------------+ 22:26 eythian | 2 | subtitle | | 245 | b | 22:26 bgkriegel_ it use GetRecordValue, which do a selct from fieldmapping 22:26 rangi ah right, i remember now 22:26 rangi yeah 22:26 rangi yeah im pretty sure its empty by default 22:26 eythian that subtitle one I think is an optional thing that can be installed 22:26 bgkriegel_ but mine is empty, so i don't get expected results 22:27 bgkriegel_ eythian: no :) only russian and ukranian installs have something 22:28 cait hm we have no sample values for it, i think ti should not have negative effects if it is empty 22:28 cait it's an optional feature 22:28 eythian hmm, maybe that's changed then, this db I'm looking at has the subtitle thing, and I've definitely seen that elswhere. 22:28 bgkriegel_ is there a way to put some values on it from staff, or only using sql? 22:29 eythian I think it's the keyword thing 22:29 eythian hmm 22:29 eythian maybe not 22:29 rangi yeah from staff the keyword thingy in admin .. or tools? 22:29 eythian I don't know 22:29 eythian admin 22:29 eythian the db I'm looking at has two entries 22:29 eythian but only one shows in the staff client 22:29 tcohen Keywords to MARC mapping on Admin 22:29 eythian oh, the other is specific to a framework 22:30 rangi /cgi-bin/koha/admin/fieldmapping.pl that one 22:30 bgkriegel_ ok :) 22:30 tcohen exactly 22:31 tcohen the whole tags thing should be refactored into zebra/es 22:31 cait tcohen: should be any tests failing atm? 22:31 tcohen cait: no 22:31 cait hm 22:31 tcohen there's a situation with Serials.t 22:31 tcohen that fails "sometimes" 22:31 tcohen still cannot figure 22:31 cait my t/db_d/Holds.t are exploding 22:32 cait and i already truncated reserves and old_reserves :( 22:32 tcohen cait: not failing here, or on jenkins 22:32 tcohen output? 22:33 cait paste.koha-community.org/245 22:35 eythian if no protocol is specified, gopher:// is assumed. 22:35 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mine" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246 22:35 tcohen eythian++ 22:35 cait gr 22:37 bgkriegel_ Q: Bug 13120, w3c validator complains but not for oleonard id's, but for some '&' not expressed as '&' in urls, seems some code on facets 22:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13120 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Invalid HTML generated by MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 22:46 tcohen cait: can i help u debugging it? 22:47 cait :) too late today, but thx foroffering 22:48 cait night all 22:48 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 22:48 tcohen night cait 23:03 tcohen eythian: what should we do about 12689 23:08 eythian bug 12689 23:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12689 blocker, P3, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search.t fails to run on Squeeze 23:08 eythian tcohen: it's fixed 23:08 eythian fixed it a while back 23:09 tcohen how is that? 23:09 eythian I just didn't close the bug 23:09 tcohen :-D 23:09 tcohen ok 23:09 eythian I added an updated module to the repo 23:09 tcohen oh 23:09 eythian I would like to start deprecating squeeze some time soonish, really. 23:10 eythian (though, we have a lot of stuff still on it, so this won't be really soon.) 23:11 * tcohen agrees 23:12 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 23:12 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 23:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #183: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/183/ 23:15 tcohen eythian: thanks for closing it 23:15 eythian np 23:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 23:23 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 23:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #200: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/200/ 23:24 tcohen rangi: grs1 deprecated, should we just remove it from the install options? 23:25 rangi hmmm for new installs? id be inclined to say yes, but id check with the people doing icu and stuff .. its all fine with that eh? 23:27 tcohen it is worth asking, of course 23:28 tcohen we have deprecated grs1, meaning we are not patching it unless on the stable branch 3.16, since june) 23:28 tcohen we are not deleting grs1 support, it should at least be announced with enough time 23:29 rangi yep 23:29 tcohen i will just make DOM the default everuwhere 23:29 rangi sounds good to me 23:30 tcohen adn add a message to the about page 23:30 tcohen if the user is still on GRS-1 23:38 tcohen is install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL used? 23:42 rangi i was using it 23:42 rangi when i had jenkins doing a full install 23:42 rangi but not sure if others are 23:43 tcohen ok, will patch it to use DOM too, just in case