Time Nick Message 22:28 eythian and, new master packages uploaded. 22:14 eythian OK, third time lucky I'll get master building I hope. 22:13 jcamins I hope we don't sit in the plane for hours now that we're boarding. 22:12 jcamins Bah, humbug. 22:10 jcamins Wish I had a raincoat or an umbrella. 22:10 jcamins And it's apparently *pouring* in New York. 22:00 * wizzyrea rejects the idea that burger king counts as food. 21:54 eythian oh hey, I just regenerated the dependencies, and a whole pile have gone. That's good! 21:51 rambutan ltr all 21:51 eythian easy 21:51 jcamins Of continuous walking. 21:51 jcamins 15 days. 21:50 jcamins No problem. 21:50 jcamins 360 hours. 21:48 jcamins Let's see what Google Maps says. 21:47 jcamins lol 21:47 rambutan Well, Orlando is not so far away that you couldn't walk home if you had to, right? Good pair of walking shoes and some Burger King? 21:46 jcamins The one that I thought was last week, but wasn't. 21:46 jcamins But that's where I was. 21:46 jcamins Well, now I'm in the airport. 21:45 jcamins cait: I'm at the conference in Orlando. 21:45 * cait pretends to no longer be curious :) 21:44 cait jcamins: you are not making this easy for me hm? :) 21:44 cait rangi: cool! 21:43 jcamins No DisneyWorld, though. 21:43 jcamins Orlando. 21:43 cait and where have you been? :) 21:43 cait oh 21:43 jcamins cait: home. 21:43 jcamins On the plus side, they said they're not going to take away my carry-on. 21:42 rangi oh i put totals at the bottom of the signoffs and passed qa etc on the dashboard now 21:36 eythian unless they cancel it, I guess. 21:36 eythian can't accuse them of lying. 21:36 cait where are you going? 21:34 jcamins Boarding will be at 6:10... unless it's not (yes, that was their official announcement: "we will be boarding at 6:10, unless we board at a different time") 21:34 jcamins (45 minute delay... already) 21:33 jcamins I should've been boarding the plane fifteen minutes ago. Grr. 21:33 cait bye magnuse 21:32 eythian bye 21:31 * magnuse desperately needs some sleep - have fun, #koha! 21:28 cait cute,the website uses the article icon we use 21:28 cait heh 21:27 magnuse tee hee 21:26 eythian they're both places far away, so it seems reasonable 21:25 rangi apparently so :) 21:25 magnuse rangi: because germany is a country in south america? 21:25 magnuse the same local store sells ben and jerry's - i'll have to investigate 21:24 cait magnuse: ben and jerry's peanut butter cup ice cream... is all i am going ot say 21:24 * magnuse is happy to have found REESE'S Peanut Butter Cups at a local shop and REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar at a local gas station 21:24 rangi just wondering why there is a germany section :) 21:23 cait rangi: you don't like karamalz? 21:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.3°C (11:20 PM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 21:23 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:23 rangi http://amigofoods.co.nz/index.php?route=product/category&path=47 21:23 rangi wtf 21:22 rangi i remember rosamonte 21:22 cait are you going to subscribe to yerba delivery? 21:22 rangi bgkriegel: http://amigofoods.co.nz/YerbaMate <-- are any of these good ? 21:20 magnuse eythian++ 21:19 rangi http://amigofoods.co.nz/Productos-Argentina 21:19 rangi ah ha! 21:19 eythian Hmm, I should do a packaging binge today, only a few days for the jessie freeze deadline. 21:18 eythian testing in about a week (there's a 10-day migration period) 21:18 eythian if you're running Debian unstable, it'll be in the repo now too. 21:17 eythian cheers 21:17 magnuse there, added it to my todo-list 21:16 magnuse at least i didn't see them not working :-) 21:16 eythian cool ta 21:16 magnuse i'll give them another spin in the kohadevbox just to be sure 21:16 eythian magnuse: well, I'll count that as working :) 21:15 magnuse eythian: not conciously... things worked when i installed those packages, but i did not conciously think about them working at them time 21:15 eythian regional author quotes is a brilliant idea 21:15 eythian well, it's an optional thing you can load at install time 21:15 magnuse probably in the en sample data or something? 21:14 * magnuse missed that 21:14 jcamins magnuse: I think they're the top N most famous quotes from presidential speeches. 21:14 magnuse we could build out the quote of the day feature so it displays daily ICAO codes to pilots and IATA to everyone else? 21:14 eythian magnuse: hey, did you get a chance to check out those packages are all fine? 21:13 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2014/10/09/kohacon14-day-3-school-bibliotecology/ 21:13 eythian magnuse: there is, they're all from American presidents or something. 21:13 cait :) 21:13 cait probably 21:13 magnuse cait: better check the logs 21:13 magnuse is there a current set of quotes? 21:13 cait airline for what? 21:13 rangi we should use the ones the students in argentina did 21:13 akafred IATA airport codes are fun. They get reused ... Airline codes (the two letter ones) are even more fun ... they are not unique. 21:13 eythian I'm not really a fan of the current set of quotes, so replacing with airport codes would be fine :) 21:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Add support for Norwegian national library card 21:13 magnuse cait++ in advance for qa'ing bug 11401 21:12 cait oh, what did he do? :) 21:12 cait hi #koha 21:12 magnuse rangi++ 21:12 magnuse guess the "quote of the day" feature could be used for that 21:12 eythian heh 21:11 magnuse we could have "airport code of the day", perhaps? 21:11 magnuse yeah, let's enhance the opac with airport codes! 21:11 wahanui well, yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... 21:11 eythian yeah, that 21:11 eythian (though, everywhere I've been tends to use the IATA code for passengers) 21:10 akafred These codes are for pilots, not passengers... 21:10 talljoy take that wahanui 21:10 talljoy perfect-o 21:10 talljoy eythian++ 21:10 magnuse ah... 21:10 wahanui i think perfect is the enemy of good 21:10 talljoy perfect! 21:09 wahanui eythian: ENBO is Bodø Lufthavn, Bodø, Nordland Norge (Norway) 21:09 eythian airport name for ENBO 21:09 eythian ) 21:09 eythian (as opposed to IATA 21:09 eythian You just need the ICAO code 21:08 wahanui eythian: NZWN is Wellington International Airport, Wellington, Wellington New Zealand 21:08 eythian airport name for NZWN 21:08 magnuse ew... ;-) 21:07 talljoy so the bot is 'merica centric 21:07 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Standards_Day <-- the US must celebrate it on the metric day 21:07 talljoy Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/airport-codes-explained-2012-10#ixzz3GuUrUHjr 21:07 talljoy all flights entering the US have airport codes with a 'K' in front of the original three-letter code (Key West then gets to be called KEYW). 21:06 magnuse k as in ameriKa? 21:06 talljoy nope 21:06 jcamins magnuse: country code? 21:06 magnuse wassup with the extra k? 21:05 talljoy jcamins that is an obscure bit of functionality 21:05 talljoy Yeehaw 21:05 wahanui talljoy: KDFW is Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas USA 21:05 talljoy airport name for dfw 21:05 talljoy ha 21:04 magnuse huh? 21:04 wahanui magnuse: I can't find an airport for KBOO. 21:04 magnuse airport name for boo 21:04 magnuse lol! 21:04 jcamins Huh. What a peculiar piece of functionality. 21:04 wizzyrea :) 21:04 wahanui jcamins: KMCO is Orlando International Airport, Orlando, Florida USA 21:04 jcamins airport name for mco 21:03 wahanui jcamins: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead. 21:03 jcamins And airports. 21:03 jcamins ... thought you ought to know. 21:02 jcamins Bah, I hate airplanes. 20:33 mtompset wizzyrea: So, you saw that episode of Dr. Who? 20:27 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:27 rangi @later tell tcohen done 20:25 rangi morning 20:20 wizzyrea woot. 20:20 wahanui https://31.media.tumblr.com/41c45df980930d7992cc259aaa3ed5ff/tumblr_ndntowUzl91r7bwg3o4_250.gif 20:20 wizzyrea fixed it! 20:20 wizzyrea fixed it is <reply> https://31.media.tumblr.com/41c45df980930d7992cc259aaa3ed5ff/tumblr_ndntowUzl91r7bwg3o4_250.gif 20:20 wizzyrea ^ mrw 20:19 wizzyrea https://31.media.tumblr.com/41c45df980930d7992cc259aaa3ed5ff/tumblr_ndntowUzl91r7bwg3o4_250.gif 20:19 mjk *library 20:19 mjk *librrary 20:19 wahanui o/* HIGHFIVE *o 20:19 wizzyrea highfive 20:19 mjk you saved the nesfa librarty ;) 20:19 wizzyrea \o/ 20:19 mjk thanks 20:19 mjk that did it 20:18 wizzyrea ps ax | grep zebra would tell you if it's running 20:18 wizzyrea maybe you need a koha-start-zebra <sitename> 20:17 mjk -f 20:16 wizzyrea with what flags? 20:16 wizzyrea if you installed using packages you can sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v --full <sitename> 20:16 mjk *tried 20:16 mjk i rtied koha-rebuild-zebra already 20:16 mjk how does that work. 20:16 wizzyrea or reindex generally 20:16 wizzyrea do you possibly need to clear the index and reindex? 20:15 mjk but when i do a search, they can't be found 20:15 mjk when i run a report from the admin interface they appear to be there 20:15 wizzyrea are the items in your data dump? 20:15 wizzyrea ooh a weird problem! 20:15 mjk i just restored my koha databases after a system failure and now huge ammounts of items seem to be missing 20:14 mjk i have a weird problem 19:54 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 19:54 mtompset @later tell oleonard Check out the secondary patch I put up on bug 12916. It is the missing test files. 19:39 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11926: DBRev 3.17.00.030 19:39 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11926 [Follow-up] HEA - Render community koha statistic usages 19:39 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 11926: Follow-up - Fix new cronjob's file permissions 19:39 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 11926: Follow-up - remove SearchEngine pref / fix POD 19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages 19:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: DB changes 19:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: Add the items table 19:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: Add new sysprefs and fix encoding issues 19:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: Add a cronjob 19:39 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11926: URI-encode data sent to statistics server 19:39 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 11926: Package updates 19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9368 normal, P3, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , specific behavior of yr and acqdate indexes 19:39 jenkins_koha * Alex Arnaud: Bug 11926: Render community koha statistic usages 19:39 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9368 [ALTERNATE] - specific behavior of yr and acqdate indexes 19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #125: FIXED in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/125/ 19:39 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:39 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:18 * magnuse would buy a book on dbix::class if anyone would write it 19:09 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 19:09 tcohen @later tell rangi I need a rel_3_18_candidate tag 18:44 tcohen "You have set use_zebra_facets but the <zebra_bib_index_mode> is not set to dom. Falling back to legacy facets calculation." 18:44 tcohen and what about this one? 18:42 tcohen "The use_zebra_facets entry is missing in your configuration file. Falling back to legacy facets calculation." 18:42 tcohen does this sound ok? 18:33 magnuse hea in da house! 18:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11926: DBRev 3.17.00.030 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01cbfb13737f6afad8c938326521c55600d40678> / Bug 11926 [Follow-up] HEA - Render community koha statistic usages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb33584de75c57a7b772d7332000b91f097fc664> / Bug 11926: Follow-up - Fix new cronjob's file permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com 18:25 tcohen oleonard: do u have use_zebra_facets=1 on koha-conf.xml? 18:23 magnuse yup, light snow it is... 18:23 tcohen something similar to this maybe: [log] facet first phase real=0.00 cat=index 18:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 2.0°C (8:00 PM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 18:22 magnuse @wunder boo 18:22 tcohen oleonard: take a look at the zebra server logs 18:21 magnuse oleonard, tcohen: you will need "make upgrade" too, i think? 18:12 oleonard How do I know that the facets I'm seeing are Zebra facets? 18:06 wahanui success is a good thing jenkins 18:06 tcohen oleonard: success? 17:53 tcohen like in perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log 17:52 tcohen but maybe an upgrade might do it right 17:52 tcohen what I did was rm -rf ~/koha-dev ; perl Makefile.PL :-P 17:51 oleonard No 17:51 tcohen have you tweaked somehow your indexes? 17:50 oleonard Yes 17:50 tcohen are you talking about your dev setup? 17:50 tcohen sorry 17:49 oleonard "upgrade" my config files tcohen? 17:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13104 - Changing date or time format on a production server will create duplicate... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99bfa09cc66567811bb34a504d4507f0f20c6586> / Bug 12005 : Creating a new zebra connection for each time we need one <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41168fb551ceeb905b75e496eca02bb0076242be> / Bug 12884: Get rid of redefined subroutine warning 17:37 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:37 tcohen @later tell oleonard you could "upgrade" your config files 17:04 tcohen hey oleonard-away 16:31 cma hey oleonard, I'm here but not sure of the answer to your question. I think I saw a push for that on the dashboard recently. 16:17 oleonard Also, talking to myself apparently. 16:17 oleonard Stuck in web installer loop. 16:13 oleonard As a comet gets close to the Sun, it loses some of its mass due to sublimation, right? 16:10 oleonard Sharks are cartilaginous fish, right? 16:04 oleonard Zebra facets means that facets are drawn from the whole result set now right? 15:52 gaetan_B bye 15:50 oleonard I should manually update koha-conf.xml? 15:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Retrieve facets from Zebra 15:47 oleonard Oh I see, Bug 11232 15:43 oleonard tcohen: The new facets feature is in master now? 15:35 cait ! 15:35 cait bye all 15:35 cait :) 15:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages 15:35 oleonard Follow-up attached to Bug 11926 15:34 fridolin see u 15:24 cait it's quickly done, not sure if it needs changes on the hea server atm 15:24 cait maybe make a separate bug? 15:23 oleonard Okay I will defer updates to the library types option til later 15:23 thd :) 15:23 thd oleonard: Yes, I could not bring the word to mind earlier because it was starring at me. 15:22 cait oleonard: not trying to rewrite it... if we find a big flaw, of course 15:22 oleonard thd: We call those developer meetings, or dev meetings 15:22 thd I also missed the last one. 15:22 cait i think we missed the last one 15:22 cait i am not sure actually 15:22 cait thd: hm nothing on the wiki? 15:21 thd cait: Do you know anything about the next time for a technical meeting? 15:21 cait and khall++ :) 15:21 khall the on-site checkouts should be very straight forward 15:20 cait hopefully i am not getting stuck on dependencies 15:20 cait i will also try to work through the gst patches 15:19 khall cait: please do! 15:19 cait khall: i can try :) 15:19 oleonard paul_p if you're still around, is there a reason why you chose to have UsageStatsLibraryType default to "public" instead of being empty? 15:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use) 15:18 khall paul_p: I was able to fix up bug 10860, but it took a lot more work than I thought it would. I think I had to edit so much code I'm disqualified from QA'ing it! 15:18 reiveune bye 15:18 oleonard What do you mean by push it back? Ask for revisions? 15:16 cait oleonard: the problem is joubu not being around before feature freeze - i think we can improve, but shoudl not push it back if possible 15:15 cait hm would think it should 15:15 oleonard OFF: "" seems to work 15:12 oleonard Hm, is that possible? 15:09 cait hm i like the idea 15:09 oleonard I wonder if a blank option should be available for UsageStatsLibraryType 15:08 cait it's not shown currently, but maybe it's planned for the future 15:08 cait http://hea.koha-community.org/ 15:08 cait oleonard: sounds optional 15:08 cait activate it and then run the cronjob and your library data will show up there 15:07 cait it seemed to work for me without giving them - you can test with hea.koha-community.org 15:07 oleonard "The library name will be shown on the Hea Koha community website. If this field is empty data will be sent anonymously." 15:07 cait it didn't seem to be mandatory, but I am not clear on the use yet :( 15:06 oleonard cait: I was wondering if your concern about the LibraryName and LibraryURL being mandatory was addressed in a follow-up yet 15:06 cait maybe research 15:06 cait i think more would be better, adding school, special like you said 15:06 cait oleonard: hm i think rangi might have been working on a foloow up for that 15:05 cait oleonard: here now 15:04 oleonard school, private, special? 15:04 oleonard Here's a question for anyone listening: The Hea patch lists "public" and "university" as the only two options for "library type." What would you add? 15:00 paul_p oleonard I've nothing against it (except it will have to be updated on all our customers that have it, and sophie will not be happy ;-) ) 14:58 oleonard paul_p: I'm think we should change the UsageStatsShare preference to be simply UsageStats so that it shows up first in the list of UsageStats* preferences 14:57 paul_p oleonard that's why the list has been written in hea patch. things like "libraryname" or "authorized IPs" should not be included 14:57 oleonard Yes. I can see why you wanted to make a custom list. 14:56 paul_p oleonard yep, it's not a bug it's a feature ! not all sysprefs must be shared 14:55 oleonard paul_p: It creates kind of a maintenance problem for the future, requiring that the list of system preferences be updated as they are added 14:54 paul_p (and the feature is optional, but the better spelling we have the better it is ;-) 14:54 paul_p oleonard = about the hea patch, feel free to revise description. they've been made by a french speaking person ;-) 14:45 barton hey, there's a patch that I *thought* that I had run across a few days ago, but now I can't find it... something about moving the determination of 'available' out of zebra on the search results page... does that ring a bell with anyone? 14:41 oleonard No rush 14:41 cait on the phone sec 14:41 thd There were minutes even if not posted. The issue was deferred to consideration at KohaCon and the mailing list. 14:41 oleonard cait still around? 14:39 thd Was a time for the next technical meeting discussed in Argentina? I did not find it on the mailing list or wiki. 14:39 oleonard And no minutes posted for the last one listed: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_16_September_2014 14:39 oleonard There is no upcoming dev meeting listed in the wiki as far as I can tell. 14:36 thd When is the next technical meeting? 14:35 oleonard I have some revisions for the preference descriptions in the Hea patch, but I'm not sure if we should address the question of making it clearer that the feature is optional 14:32 paul_p ok, leaving now ! 14:31 barton paul_p: https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot 14:31 thd paul_p++ 14:31 paul_p will update wiki immediatly 14:31 barton paul_p++ 14:30 talljoy paul_p++ 14:30 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014.2014-10-22-13.05.log.html 14:30 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014.2014-10-22-13.05.txt 14:30 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014.2014-10-22-13.05.html 14:30 huginn Meeting ended Wed Oct 22 14:30:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:30 paul_p #endmeeting 14:30 * paul_p newbie at chairing... 14:30 thd paul #endmeeting 14:30 paul_p how do I declare the meeting end ? 14:30 paul_p #action next meeting november, 19th, will be made twice at 5UTC (chairman volunteer expected !) and 21UTC (thd chairing) 14:30 barton +1 14:29 thd I suggest both UTC 5 and UTC 21 on 19 Nov. 14:29 thd 21 UTC is also fine and might be better for local time adjustments. 14:29 wahanui thd is probably concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option. We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server. or concerned that indentation styles which do not collapse in vim lead to overly long lines which cannot always be broken across multiple lines. 14:29 paul_p thd ? 14:28 paul_p (8 hours difference x3) 14:28 paul_p thd : UTC, it's 5 / 13 / 21 14:27 oleonard That was the second time which was supposed to work for NZ 14:27 talljoy 22UTC it is on 11/19 14:27 thd 22 UTC was it? 14:26 thd What was the second time we had recently? 14:26 paul_p 5UTC and ... (thd, pick your time) 14:26 paul_p nov 19th, then 14:26 talljoy pick your time 14:26 thd When should that be? 14:25 thd Ok, I will host a second meeting on the date. 14:25 talljoy i nominate you to host the second meeting then thd 14:25 thd tallyjoy: which is why I thought two times seemed to be working much better than rotation. 14:25 paul_p yep, I agree. 14:24 talljoy it's going to be bad for someone somewhere. 14:24 talljoy paul_p i say we go with the standard meeting protocol setting. 14:24 fridolin sorry reboot 14:24 talljoy there is no such thing as a good time 14:24 oleonard talljoy: Nope 14:24 paul_p thd = it's wrong for everyone except aussies, kiwis, japan & china. But we have no chinese of japanese contributors... 14:23 talljoy oleanard care to get up at 3am? 14:23 thd 2 UTC was not widely acceptable and had led to empty meetings. 14:23 paul_p what about 8UTC ? Should be OK for kiwis, and OK for europe. not exactly 8h shift, but 5 14:23 barton no. 14:22 thd Is 5UTC widely acceptable? 14:22 thd s/was choose/we had been using/ 14:21 thd Exactly, which is why was choose two different times for the same meeting. 14:21 oleonard I think we should propose a widely acceptable time and encourage those for whom it doesn't work to propose a second meeting (with volunteer chair) 14:20 oleonard I don't think we should choose a meeting time when none present will be able to attend. 14:20 thd paul_p: No, before the last general meeting we had two times for the general meeting also. 14:20 paul_p (the 2nd chairman will also leave the keyboard soon... in 10mn max) 14:19 thd oleonard: When did we decide to revert to the previous procedure? 14:19 paul_p I thought the 2 meeting times was for dev meetings. Am I wrong ? 14:19 oleonard Two meeting times didn't seem to work because of low turnout in the second meeting? 14:18 barton that would be midnight US EST. 14:18 oleonard We didn't, that was the previous procedure. 14:18 thd When did we decide to rotate instead of two meeting times in the same day? 14:18 cait hm 6 would be ok, but are you sure? 14:18 talljoy not good for europe or north america 14:18 paul_p sorry, 6AM. not so bad, but not good either 14:18 cait so not a good time for europe 14:18 cait eek 14:18 paul_p (in France I mean) 14:18 talljoy midnight or so for me 14:18 paul_p 5UTC will be 4AM here. 14:17 paul_p oleonard kiwis like it, others don't ;-) 14:17 cait need to check 14:17 talljoy not i 14:17 oleonard Is 5UTC a good meeting time for a good number of people? 14:17 cait sounds goot to me 14:17 paul_p close to release 14:17 paul_p yep. 14:17 cait close to release :) 14:17 talljoy no objection 14:17 paul_p next meeting 5UTC, at which date ? nov 19th ? 14:16 cait with some variation of the day 14:16 cait yep, about a month forward 14:16 talljoy 1 month forward? 14:16 talljoy okay and the date? 14:16 paul_p talljoy usually -8 hours. So 5UTC 14:16 cait we move by 8 hours backwards i think 14:16 cait i will also push back patches for a second sign off if i feel it needs another set of eyes (like we do now with big patches too) 14:16 talljoy paul_p how is the next meeting time selected? 14:15 talljoy yes 14:15 cait and to revisit it every release 14:15 paul_p I've been the one promoting this change for the longest time. Believe me, I would be the 1st to propose to revert it if things goes wrong ! 14:15 cait that's what was agreed on 14:15 thd I understand the legitimate motivation for lack of time and attention from others. 14:14 talljoy thd can always be reverted if abused. 14:14 thd That is what I had thought sadly ;( 14:14 oleonard "Proposal for a change in guidelines for the sign-off process in the Koha-community" was the subject 14:14 cait thd: so one developer of a company develops the patch, another can sign it off 14:13 barton thd: removing. 14:13 talljoy amending a guideline 14:13 cait thd: it will be possible to do an internal sign off on a patch 14:13 thd adding or removing? 14:13 paul_p thd = (look at koha-devel, brendan's email) 14:13 * thd is unclear exactly what the amendment is. 14:13 paul_p #topic Set time and date of next General IRC meeting 14:12 talljoy try it in french.... 14:12 paul_p (properly written I mean) 14:12 paul_p (is it OK ?) 14:12 paul_p #agreed amending patch workflow +1 = 7 votes, -1 = 1 vote, 0= 1 vote 14:11 thd what cait wrote 14:11 talljoy yes ^ 14:11 cait or #agreed 14:11 thd paul_p: use #info I think 14:11 paul_p ok, adopted then. (someone will have to explain me how to express results in the minutes...) 14:10 * thd distracted 14:10 paul_p no other vote ? 14:09 edveal +1 14:08 cait 0 - but let's try and see 14:08 oleonard -1 14:08 dani +1 14:08 meliss +1 14:08 paul_p +1 (of course) 14:08 barton +1 14:08 khall +1 14:08 talljoy +1 14:08 paul_p so let's vote ? 14:07 paul_p any objection or comment ? 14:07 paul_p this topic has been discussed a lot in Cordoba, brendan wrote an email about the discussion on #koha-devel 14:06 paul_p #topic Removing/amending "Preferably, patch writer and patch signer should not be from the same company or institution." 14:06 paul_p ok, next topic then 14:06 paul_p ... 1 14:06 paul_p ... 2 14:05 oleonard I don't see anything paul_p 14:05 paul_p ... 3 14:05 paul_p am I missing something ? 14:05 paul_p #topic Actions from General IRC meeting 24 September 2014 14:05 paul_p talljoy I hope I won't forget ;-) 14:04 thd paul_p: use #topic 14:04 paul_p I don't see any action. Am I missing something ? 14:04 paul_p next topic then: Actions from General IRC meeting 24 September 2014 14:04 talljoy i think we got that covered....in triplicate 14:03 thd paul_p: type #action paul_p will send email asking only submitter about status of application for KohaCon15 14:03 cait heh :) 14:03 cait #action paul_p is going to contact the Nigerian KohaCon15 applicants to get confirmation that they will organize KohaCon15 (no vote this year, as only one application) 14:03 paul_p #action paul will drop a mail to nigerian candidate for KohaCon15, to check if they're still voluntering, as they're the only candidate, if they are, they win 14:02 paul_p anyone objecting ? any objection ? 14:02 cait that's ok for me 14:02 paul_p if you want, I'll do that. 14:02 thd Yes, exactly. 14:01 paul_p ok, cait, we agree ;-) 14:01 paul_p should we drop them an email to ask for confirmation of their application ? 14:01 cait i think write them an email :) 14:01 paul_p KohaCon15, we've only one candidate, no news from them for some months. What should we do ? 14:01 thd paul_p: There is almost nothing left. 14:00 tcohen bbl :-D 14:00 paul_p (and I really don't know how to do it !!!) 14:00 talljoy hahahahaha 14:00 paul_p hey, no, I don't want to chair! 14:00 thd :) 14:00 tcohen #topic KohaCon15 14:00 tcohen already late! 14:00 tcohen :-D 14:00 huginn Current chairs: paul_p tcohen 14:00 tcohen #chair paul_p 13:59 tcohen barton: we appointed two proffesionals to make the video 13:59 * barton looks forward to seeing that. 13:59 paul_p next topic ? (tcohen: look at your watch) 13:59 paul_p I hope ;-) 13:59 tcohen we are putting subtitles to it 13:58 paul_p barton (I've been itw in french. the result will be funny...) 13:58 talljoy "I AM THE KOHA" 13:58 paul_p barton = I don't know, all what I know is that we've all been interviewed one by one. and at the end, we had some words to say, they'll probably make a patchwork from them 13:57 tcohen barton: :-D 13:57 barton tcohen: that sounds cool... who is producing it? 13:57 tcohen :-D 13:57 paul_p in case there's any newbie here: I was kidding. It was wonderful ! 13:57 bgkriegel_ yeah 13:57 paul_p ok, back to being serious. 13:57 tcohen btw, bgkriegel_ we need to attend that interviews in 5 minutes 13:56 paul_p and it's 4PM here 13:56 tcohen #action We are finishing the production of a short film about the Koha project/community history 13:56 talljoy that's my point! 13:56 paul_p talljoy reminder= I don't drink coffee ;-) 13:56 * talljoy wonders who gave paul_p coffee this morning 13:55 tcohen #action Tomas will try to upload all presentations for the wiki 13:55 paul_p (and a choir singing, oh my god, it was so awful...) 13:55 talljoy naughty boy 13:55 thd :) 13:55 paul_p very small meat pieces in our plates, very cloudy weather. everything was wrong... 13:55 tcohen #actions Tomas will try to upload all presentations for the wiki 13:54 * talljoy is not sure who paul_p met.... 13:54 talljoy lol 13:54 tcohen :-/ 13:54 paul_p :D :D :D 13:54 paul_p kohacon14 was awful. Very poor welcoming from argentinian ppl. Should we say more ? 13:54 thd Maybe at some point someone will find some language to apply the wording to the mailing list etc. other than by some ambiguous invokation statement. 13:54 tcohen #info KohaCon14 was a huge success for the local community, lots of universities 13:53 tcohen #topic KohaCon14 13:53 tcohen of course heh 13:53 tcohen #info CoC can be improved in future iterations 13:52 tcohen #agreed Thomas Dukleth ammendments to the CoC 13:52 edveal +1 13:52 talljoy +1 13:52 bgkriegel_ +1 13:52 thd +1 13:52 tcohen +1 13:52 dani +1 13:52 thd paul_p: I actually do not think that the existing language "works". 13:52 paul_p +1 13:51 barton +1 13:51 tcohen ok, we agree on the changes 13:51 tcohen yeah 13:51 paul_p "if it work, don't fix it" ;-) 13:51 paul_p thd = let's fix it when we face it then 13:51 thd paul_p: My only concern is that if we would ever have a problem that we should have something more refined than the existing version. 13:50 tcohen if there are no objections... 13:50 barton paul_p++ 13:50 talljoy #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions 13:50 paul_p (and my opinion about this code of conduct is that we never had any problem, so adopting a coc may be good, but no need to discuss it for years ;-) ) 13:50 tcohen smuxi autocomplete seems, funny 13:50 talljoy hi tcohen 13:50 tcohen hi talljoy 13:50 tcohen thdta 13:49 talljoy heh 13:49 tcohen heh 13:49 barton yep. I'm good with the ammendments -- I really want to be able to harass ants again. 13:49 thd If it fails we can enquire if there are objections to particular parts which might be changed. 13:49 paul_p same thing for me 13:48 tcohen i have no personal objections to the ammendments 13:48 thd I suggest that we vote on the proposed amendments as a whole. 13:48 thd No had raised any on the mailing list when I had last checked. 13:47 thd Does anyone have questions about my proposed amendments or specific amendments to it? 13:45 thd Yes I think that we should be able to vote on it as a whole or the parts in my email individually. 13:44 thd the verbose phrase for 24 hours to 24 hours. 13:44 thd I correct a misspelling ant-harassment to anti-harassment and 13:43 thd The content of the patch is the same as the text changes in my email except: 13:43 tcohen so we cannot vote on it?? 13:43 tcohen ah 13:42 thd The patch is against the repo but gmcharlt does not seem to have taken the time to post a branch with the patch. 13:42 tcohen i don't see it 13:41 tcohen is your patch applied to the one in galen's repo? 13:41 thd We hope that we would always never need to use it. 13:41 tcohen and fortunately we didn't need to use it 13:41 thd I also submitted a patch against the repository. 13:40 tcohen #info The current code of conduct was distributed to KohaCon14 atendees 13:40 tcohen #link http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2014-August/040462.html 13:40 tcohen thd: you proposed some ammendments 13:39 tcohen #link https://github.com/gmcharlt/koha-code-of-conduct 13:39 cait tcohen: alfajores please :) I am running out 13:39 tcohen #topic Code of Conduct 13:39 tcohen sure :-D 13:38 paul_p :D 13:38 paul_p tcohen = can I get coffee with my 3.18 please ? 13:38 cait also tell me if one of your patches is more important than another, so we can give it prio in qa 13:38 tcohen ok 13:38 tcohen before we move on, PLEASE CONTACT ME for anything 3.18 related, better sooner than later 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 13:38 bgkriegel_ If someone has time (magnuse) perhaps a look to Bug 7939 13:37 * magnuse gotta run, sorry 13:37 khall paul_p: ping me here as well once it's signed 13:37 tcohen ok, moving on? 13:37 tcohen it is mostly a change in the updatedatabase maintenance workflow 13:37 khall paul_p: absolutely! 13:36 cait bgkriegel++ :) 13:36 tcohen paul_p: that's fine 13:36 tcohen #info Tomas has asked people who wrote new features / enhancements to drop some lines for the release notes, please contact him if you have something to say 13:36 paul_p tcohen about 13068, I'll sign-off asap (new signoff needed I think, as it's almost a complete rewrite). khall would you be OK to QA it after ? (ill' drop you an email once I've signed off) 13:35 tcohen #action Bernardo will add 3.18 soon on the translation server 13:35 tcohen bgkriegel++ 13:34 bgkriegel_ i can add 3.18 to translation server soon, to give more time to translators (after feature freeze) 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , New feature for DB update and sandbox 13:34 paul_p bug 13068 13:34 magnuse tcohen++ 13:34 paul_p bz 13068 13:34 magnuse woohoo! 13:34 tcohen i'll be working on it today and tomorrow 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 13:33 magnuse bug 11944 13:33 magnuse and how about the big utf8 bug? 13:33 wahanui i heard link was broken. Also, we don't know what tools you're using to create the marc, but there is probably an option in that tool. 13:33 tcohen paul_p: link? 13:33 magnuse yeah, that would be cool 13:33 paul_p will be a wunderbach improvement for sandboxes ! 13:33 paul_p I'm also really willing to see the updatedatabase improvement, written by me, rewritten by marcel, going in. 13:32 tcohen that's an opt-in feature that wouldn't break any other feature 13:31 tcohen fell free to ask me for any help you might need to make it faster 13:31 magnuse yay 13:31 cait and give tiime for translators 13:31 tcohen magnuse: that one is on the list 13:31 cait to wrk thorugh the things in pqa i think 13:31 cait and feature freeze is not push freeze... but we need to have a deadline 13:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Add support for Norwegian national library card 13:31 magnuse me would like to see bug 11401 go in, but that is only of interest to norwegian libraries... 13:31 tcohen and the PQA queue doubles the SO one in amount of bugs 13:30 tcohen we still have a week and a half 13:30 tcohen so we find the way 13:30 tcohen i expect you all email me about those features you expected for 3.18 and are close to be finished 13:30 magnuse it sure does 13:29 tcohen time goes by! 13:29 magnuse it is! 13:29 oleonard Wow that's really soon. 13:29 tcohen info Feature freeze for 3.18 is October 31 13:29 cait #info Feature freeze will be Friday 31 October 13:29 cait tcohen: #info? :) 13:28 cait khall: i am very interested in that feature, woudl be nice to see it move 13:28 cait or maybe because of the db changes and some test needs adjusting khall++ 13:28 tcohen magnuse: feature freeze will be friday 31 13:27 barton magnuse -- he gets that all the time ;-) 13:27 magnuse khall++ 13:27 khall np! 13:27 paul_p thx khall 13:27 * paul_p bet the test fail because of some missing data in the db... 13:26 khall paul_p: I'll take a look at it. If it's something simple I can take care of it 13:26 paul_p s/tcohen/cait/, sorry 13:25 paul_p tcohen you mean someone excluding joubu that is afk for 3 weeks ? I don't think so. everybody too busy at BibLibre 13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use) 13:24 cait paul_p: do you thik someon could take a look at the tests failing for bug 10860? 13:24 tcohen there will be another nso for warning the user in the about page for conflicting zebra facets configuration 13:24 magnuse tcohen: are there dates for 3.18 feature slush/freeze etc yet? 13:23 tcohen yes 13:23 cait the pref for choosing the number of facets? 13:23 wahanui okay, cait. 13:23 cait thre is also a follow up for facets that needs signoff i think 13:23 tcohen (my fault, because of the changes I made on the XSLT files) 13:23 tcohen also, there are several UNIMARC patches that recently failed to apply 13:23 tcohen #info Zebra facets should be tested a lot :-D 13:22 tcohen #info tcohen urges people to look at the plack related patches 13:22 tcohen i was about to say 13:22 paul_p tcohen = anything pending around plack or Unimarc & dom changes ? anything about facets in zebra ? 13:21 barton oleonard++ 13:21 huginn 04Bug 11926: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages 13:21 tcohen #link http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages 13:21 oleonard Bug 11926 13:21 magnuse are there dates for 3.18 feature freeze etc yet? 13:21 barton link to HEA in bugzilla? 13:21 tcohen oleonard++ 13:20 * oleonard is doing so now 13:20 paul_p (will add a comment on the bz) 13:20 tcohen waiting for some wording review 13:20 paul_p i've seen your email about some description, will send 13:20 tcohen paul_p: HEA is already integrated in my local branch 13:20 paul_p I'd like to rise the "hea" patch, it's a very useful addition, no side effect, and will give us a lot of interesting informations about Koha users ! 13:19 tcohen that's what i was looking for 13:19 paul_p (for 3.18) ? 13:19 paul_p tcohen = any patch needing attention you'd like to see included ? 13:19 tcohen :-P 13:19 * tcohen hopes 3.18 shines 13:18 tcohen ok, update on 3.18 13:18 tcohen #info Marseille's dates will be chosen in November 2014, please answer Paul's email on "forbidden dates" before November 13:17 cait for a moment I read... a date in november :) 13:17 paul_p I plan to choose the date in november 13:17 tcohen ok, anyone wants to say something about 3.16? 13:16 tcohen omnipresent bgkriegel 13:16 paul_p hey, one annoucement that everybody has probably seen : if you've a "forbiden date" for the Hackfest in Marseille in feb/mar 2015, drop me an email ! 13:15 tcohen remember we are here to help :-D 13:14 tcohen i.e. help backporting? 13:14 tcohen are there any big bugs on those releases that need our attention? 13:14 tcohen #info Fridolin says he doesn't have enough time to spend on integrating patches 13:13 fridolin I wich I could spend more time on intergrating patches 13:13 tcohen #info Kyle says 3.12 is getting to the point where there are few if any applicable patches 13:13 fridolin nothing special 13:13 khall 3.12 is getting to the point where there are few if any applicable patches 13:12 tcohen fridolin: comments on 3.14? 13:11 cait #link : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_22_October_2014 13:11 wahanui rumour has it 3.12 is due to be released on May 22, 2013. Master entered a feature slush on March 15, 2013, and will enter a feature freeze on March 22, 2013 and a string freeze on May 1 13:11 tcohen khall: 3.12? 13:11 tcohen #topic Update on old releases 13:11 tcohen cait: no 13:11 tcohen heh 13:11 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany 13:11 cait oh 13:10 cait tcohen: you found msaby :) 13:10 bgkriegel #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba 13:10 tcohen heh 13:09 paul_p (STRONG wind in Marseille today, but that's not an announcement for this meeting ;-) ) 13:09 paul_p mmm... not that I see (am I forgetting something ?) 13:09 magnuse and has a beard! 13:08 wahanui hmmm... paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. 13:08 tcohen paul_p? 13:08 tcohen any announcements? 13:08 magnuse good turnout from bywater :-) 13:08 tcohen #topic Announcements 13:08 tcohen moving on 13:07 meliss #info Melissa Lefebvre, ByWater Solutions 13:07 fridolin tcohen: here I am 13:07 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 13:07 tcohen will wait for frido 13:07 fridolin hie all 13:07 dani #info Dani Elder, ByWater Solutions 13:07 tcohen ok, moving on 13:06 edveal #info Ed Veal, ByWater Solutions 13:06 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 13:06 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Oslo Public Library 13:05 jwagner #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS 13:05 barton #info Barton Chittenden, Bywater Solutions, Louisville KY USA 13:05 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries 13:05 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba 13:05 paul_p #info Paul Poulain, BibLibre 13:05 tcohen Please introduce yourselves, using #info name 13:05 oleonard Someone must have thought this was a good time for a meeting :| 13:05 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 13:05 tcohen #topic Introductions 13:05 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014' 13:05 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:05 huginn Meeting started Wed Oct 22 13:05:13 2014 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:05 tcohen #startmeeting General IRC meeting 22 October 2014 13:05 paul_p tcohen agenda is here : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_22_October_2014 13:04 thd It is even a little early for brooke's time zone. 13:04 paul_p tcohen only 1 hour mean we will be efficient, and back to hacking soon ;-) 13:03 tcohen hi paul_p 13:03 edveal Morning #koha 13:03 tcohen 6:03 am for gmcharlt 13:03 tcohen i can be here only 1 hour 13:03 oleonard gmcharlt awake yet? 13:03 paul_p no brooke yet ? 13:03 * tcohen didn't have it on his calendar 13:02 paul_p yep, seems it's 13UTC ;-) 13:02 barton that's what the topic says :-) 13:02 thd tcohen: Are you leading the meeting? 13:01 oleonard So, uh... Meeting time? 13:00 barton morning, #koha. 13:00 thd http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Managing_files 13:00 * tcohen has been lazy, sorry thd 12:59 tcohen maybe "Upload file" 12:58 * thd checks 12:58 tcohen (not mine) 12:58 tcohen thd: how do i upload another slide? 12:56 thd Having them online with a free software platform would be better than a non-free one. 12:56 tcohen :-D 12:55 thd Having them online in some manner is the most important issue. 12:54 tcohen and added a link 12:54 tcohen thd: had read you later :-( i already uploaded to slideshare 12:53 * cait sends cookies 12:52 * oleonard shouldn't have looked at that page, is now sad again 12:52 thd tcohen: the wiki does have file type constraints for uploaded files. Let me know if those need adjustment for your slides. 12:51 thd tcohen: you should be able to upload slides to the wiki. 12:47 cait like here? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Program 12:46 cait if it works i think to the wiki 12:45 tcohen cait: where should i upload my slides? 12:43 * oleonard wonders, "Self-destructing slides?" 12:42 cait yeah, but not sure if that's a long term thing 12:42 tcohen i think your's is online 12:42 tcohen cait: yes 12:42 cait will ask rangi about ours 12:42 cait tcohen: maybe we need to remind people to upload their slides :) 12:41 magnuse what he said 12:41 cait akafred: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon14/Schedule 12:41 magnuse in 20 minutes, i think? 12:41 oleonard 19 minutes 12:41 cait when is the meeting? 12:41 cait ohoh 12:40 cait akafred: there are, sec 12:40 magnuse is there an equivalent to OPACItemHolds for the intranet? to enforce placing holds on individual items or next available? 12:40 cait hm we didn't ask for tests so far for index changes 12:40 tcohen i think it is easy to rebase 12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9828 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Passed QA , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 6XX 12:39 cait bug 9828 12:39 akafred Hi :-) Are there any videos, slides, minutes, transcripts from Kohacon14? Or did you have to be there? :-) 12:39 tcohen cait: 9828 doesn't apply cleanly, and it doesn't contain tests :-/ 12:39 cait tcohen: matts is matts is from biblibre :) 12:38 magnuse tcohen: msaby is probably not around, i don't think he is working a lot on koha anymore 12:38 cait but maybe also the prefs? 12:38 cait oleonard: my gues is that volumetry refers to the item, biblio and other counts on the website 12:38 wahanui hmmm... matts_away is leaving the party :) 12:38 tcohen matts_away? 12:37 tcohen is matthieu saby here? 12:37 tcohen also that is an opt-in feature 12:37 tcohen just want t make it obvious that it is anonymous data, somehow 12:36 tcohen oleonard: i'm fine with that 12:35 oleonard Oh, I see that elsewhere it uses "usage data." Better? 12:34 tcohen not plain data 12:34 tcohen oleonard: i'd say "statistical data" 12:33 magnuse dunno though, just a hunch 12:32 magnuse maybe a distinction between actual data for individual libraries on the one hand and aggregate/average data on the other? 12:26 oleonard ...or is there a nuance I'm missing? 12:26 oleonard Would "Share data on the Hea Koha community website" be just as accurate? 12:25 oleonard "Share data volumetry on the Hea Koha community website." Although "volumetry" appears to be a real word I had to look it up. 12:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages 12:25 oleonard Looking at Bug 11926... 12:22 tcohen hi francharb 12:21 francharb good morning tcohen 12:21 francharb good morning oleonard 12:21 tcohen hi oleonard 12:21 oleonard Good morning tcohen and francharb 12:18 tcohen morning! 11:56 oleonard I'm glad I checked the time. I didn't remember it was different this time. 11:54 khall thanks oleonard! 11:53 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_22_October_2014 11:52 khall cait: is there a page on the wiki for this meeting? I can't find one 11:51 khall hi oleonard! 11:51 oleonard Hi #koha 11:23 cait it just doesn't feel quite right at the moment 11:22 cait sory to be annoying :) 11:21 khall yes, I suppose you are right. I'll have to take a look at the bug and see what I can do. I was thinking that 11:21 cait and then treat it accordingly? 11:21 cait use the staged marc file link and add a column that indicates which files are 'order' files 11:21 cait without having a different entry link to access it? 11:21 cait you write it prepulates a few fields - but wouldn't it be enough then to mark the record as order record on import? 11:20 khall Cait, order records are a type of staged record, but they behave a differently. When you get to the "editor" after you select a record, that editor behaves differently if it is an order record 11:19 cait the only difference i see is the prepopulating of the branche and itemtypes, but i think that culd maybe be just a checkbox somewhere 11:18 cait I don't see the difference 11:18 cait you don't have to have items in those files either - and you can use MarcFieldsToOrder to help create your items (quantity, budget, etc.) 11:18 cait I think what you describe there is already done when you use the 'ordr from staged' 11:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10877 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add "Order Record" processing 11:17 cait khall: i am still confused by the need for an new link in acq for bug 10877 11:16 khall mornin cait! 11:16 cait morning khall 11:15 khall mornin! 11:15 magnuse hiya khall 11:08 khall mornin! 09:45 cait :) 09:45 cait paul_p: pm 09:39 magnuse oh yeah! 09:36 cait of course :) 09:35 paul_p cait one is over, everybody thinking about the next one ;-) 09:35 cait paul_p: thinking about hackfest :) 09:34 paul_p cait yep 09:34 cait paul_p: around? 09:00 magnuse https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox now sets up qa-test-tools for you 07:43 magnuse bonojur paul_p 07:37 paul_p hello #koha 07:13 gaetan_B hello 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:52 cait hi reiveune and bbl 06:50 reiveune salut magnuse cait 06:49 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:47 reiveune hello 06:17 paxed i've tried deleting the po-file and recreating it, and still no go. 06:16 cait hm not sure 05:58 paxed well, it should get picked up by translate update, but it doesn't, for some reason. 05:44 cait paxed: seems ok on pootle http://translate.koha-community.org/de/316/translate/#search=payment%2Cthanks&sfields=source,target&unit=11153160 05:43 cait hm now i found it 05:42 cait hm mybe it's not there yet 05:41 cait *sigh* 05:41 cait hm can't find accruing on pootle 05:40 paxed this is probably a $SOME_SOFTWARE $DIFFERENT_VERSION problem. goddamnit, and not an error message in sight anywhere. 05:38 cait i remember translating that 05:38 paxed yes 05:38 cait did you grep for Accruing fine too? 05:38 paxed not picking up the CASE 'FU' (the "Accruing fine" text won't show up) 05:38 cait me neither 05:37 magnuse paxed: not sure i understand the problem? 05:37 magnuse cait: how can your windchill make it warmer?!? 05:35 magnuse nice day for a home office 05:35 paxed ^ anyone know why that would happen? 05:35 cait not much warmer :( 05:35 pastebot "paxed" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "paxed@x:~/kohadev/koha$ rgrep" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/244 05:35 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.7°C (7:30 AM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 05:35 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 05:34 magnuse @wunder boo 05:34 magnuse :-) 05:34 cait morning :) 05:34 magnuse morning cait and #koha 05:27 cait morning #koha 04:54 ashimema_zzzzz /nick/ 02:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #196: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/196/ 02:41 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 02:41 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 02:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #179: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/179/ 02:29 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 02:29 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 01:55 eythian later 01:52 tcohen night every1 00:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Holidays.t will fail some unit tests on Sundays 00:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13114 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Disabled Shibboleth authentication spams logs 00:58 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13115 - Holidays.t will fail some unit tests on Sundays 00:58 jenkins_koha * Martin Renvoize: Bug 13114: Prevent Shibboleth Patches from spamming logs 00:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #192: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/192/ 00:58 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 00:58 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 00:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13115 - Holidays.t will fail some unit tests on Sundays <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fafe2afb491c8aff468dc200c705c05b57f4991> / Bug 13114: Prevent Shibboleth Patches from spamming logs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dfc026fad2b0e92e00e501cf15284fae042a711> 00:10 rangi yep 00:09 tcohen back online? 00:05 rangi hows cordoba today tcohen ?