Time  Nick            Message
23:49 eythian         hi papa
23:20 bag             one from me too
23:20 ashimema        buy tcohen a drink for me.. ;)
23:20 bag             later cait travel safe
23:20 ashimema        have fun cait..
23:20 cait            cya all later
23:20 cait            last dinner :(
23:20 cait            going downstairs
23:19 cait            ashimema++ :)
23:18 cait            but it's always a possibility i guess
23:18 bag             ashimema++
23:18 cait            i tested it... it would bug me if i missed something
23:18 cait            heh
23:17 ashimema        nothing like throwing customers onto somthing to find the cracks.. (not that I've let anything through the cracks during qa though aye ;) )
23:17 ashimema        we're just testing it for you miss ;)
23:16 cait            aah nice to hear that!
23:16 ashimema        gone are the days of getting stuck in spam.. :)
23:16 ashimema        We're rolled them into our packages here now.. working fantastically with our new mail setup :)
23:16 cait            but i hope soon :)
23:16 cait            not yet
23:16 ashimema        hey cait.. did your reply-to patches make it into mster yet?
23:13 * ashimema      wonders if he can crack open that beer yet.. 20 past midnight but still battling with zebra..
23:13 cait            ashimema: go to bed
23:11 bag             excellent
23:10 ashimema        mwahahahaha... it's alive!
23:07 * ashimema      has had enough of this server reinstallation now :(
23:02 huginn          bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 24.5°C (4:02 PM PDT on October 16, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
23:02 bag             @wunder 93102
23:02 tcohen          waaarm
22:59 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 25.0°C (7:55 PM ART on October 16, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
22:59 cait            @wunder Cordoba Argentina
22:33 cait            :)
22:29 tcohen          we all need to be on diet after kohacon14
22:29 * tcohen        is on tethering-mode so bad connexion right now, cable company issues
22:29 tcohen          wizzyrea++
22:25 bag             tcohen: MEAT!!!
22:24 wizzyrea        tcohen: http://www.koha-community.org/
22:21 cait            i wil have a hard time going back on my diet at home :)
22:21 cait            it's all been very good so far :)
22:20 cait            hm don't know
22:20 tcohen          :-D
22:20 tcohen          last night in argentina, so tell me what would you like to have for dinner
22:19 cait            tcohen: yep
22:14 tcohen          ?
22:14 tcohen          rangi: 8:30
22:13 tcohen          hi eythian
22:12 eythian         hi tcohen
22:11 eythian         ah, and there it is
22:05 eythian         OK, now just waiting for my ITP reply to come through, then I can submit that package to debian
22:00 cait            understandably
21:39 eythian         I'm annoyed by the ones that don't
21:39 eythian         oh, it has a copyright message. That's nice.
21:38 * magnuse       is gone now, for reals
21:38 magnuse         and cait++
21:38 magnuse         eythian++ yeah!
21:37 cait            eythian++
21:37 eythian         I'll get it into jessie, and into the Koha repo.
21:37 magnuse         yay!
21:37 cait            was hoping that one would be easier
21:37 cait            :)
21:36 eythian         I just did it
21:36 cait            but they ooked into the dependencies and Moose was one
21:36 eythian         Convert::BaseN looks easy to package
21:36 cait            tcohen and rangi can tell more
21:36 eythian         cya magnuse
21:36 magnuse         i'll be working on a new patch for 11401 tomorrow - better catch some sleep now. have fun #koha!
21:36 eythian         that makes it complicated
21:36 eythian         I mean
21:36 eythian         AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
21:36 cait            eythian: i think it uses Moose
21:35 eythian         I'm not sure how they should know that, but there should be a way.
21:35 magnuse         true
21:35 eythian         I don't mind skipping them too much. I think it'd be good to throw a big warning, but people doing testing should know to CPAN it or whatever.
21:34 magnuse         no rush then!
21:34 magnuse         hehe
21:34 eythian         (well, the older ones, anyway)
21:33 eythian         ...first I'd have to upgrade all our servers...
21:33 eythian         I'd quite like to phase out support for squeeze one of these days...
21:33 eythian         Especially to get it compatible with older distros
21:33 eythian         I'm a little afraid of packaging that as I wouldn't be surprised to find it's terrible.
21:32 magnuse         a bit sad to skip lots of tests because it is missing
21:32 magnuse         it would be nice to have test::dbix::class packaged - there might be more code using it over time, perhaps
21:32 cait            all good then
21:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Failed QA , Add support for Norwegian national library card
21:32 magnuse         bug 11401
21:32 magnuse         yeah, and eythian commented on it
21:30 cait            i noted it on the bug i think
21:30 eythian         yep
21:30 cait            but i think we still need another dependency for magnuse's patch for the norwegian library card
21:30 eythian         ah, good
21:30 cait            eythian: not sure if we still need the test::dbix::class packaged - tomas and rangi made it so the tests are skipped if it's not there
21:30 cait            gr.
21:29 cait            hola...
21:29 magnuse         becaus gitify replaces an include with an include that is something-git-something, and koha-plack looks for the original include
21:29 eythian         cait: I missed my own deification!
21:29 eythian         magnuse: yeah, I'm not surprised
21:29 cait            holy eythian
21:29 magnuse         koha-plack can't handle gitified sites either
21:28 magnuse         hehe
21:28 eythian         (keeping in mind that koha-plack is intended to be a stopgap until we get it really built in to packages. Srdjan made some patches to help with that I need to look at. All I really need is all the time in the world :)
21:28 magnuse         do you/chris h. plan on getting koha-plack into koha eventually?
21:27 magnuse         't would be cool
21:27 eythian         I should do that
21:27 eythian         ah yeah
21:27 magnuse         eythian: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha-plack.git;a=tree;f=koha needs an update for the Apache .conf site config thing (i meant to do a patch for it, but then i abandoned koha-plack in favour of the koha.psgi/plackup.sh that dpavlin got into koha, for the kohadevbox thing)
21:26 eythian         hiya magnuse
21:23 magnuse         kia ora eythian
21:20 wahanui         Since Wed Jun 25 06:09:14 2014, there have been 2110 modifications and 703 questions.  I have been awake for 113 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes, 14 seconds this session, and currently reference 39572 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.
21:20 eythian         wahanui: status
21:20 eythian         hi
20:28 wizzyrea        \o/
20:28 talljoy         so success albeit bumpy
20:28 talljoy         no worries.  i made it home.
20:28 wizzyrea        talljoy how did the trip turn out? apologies if this is the 10th time you've told the story.
20:28 ashimema        hehe.. thanks talljoy
20:28 * talljoy       slides a beer down to ashimema
20:27 talljoy         HA!
20:27 ashimema        it's gonna be a long night..
20:27 wizzyrea        haha
20:27 ashimema        reinstalling a server at 9.30pm always seesm a good idea untill you come to do it :(
20:15 bag             good luck that training is going to be important :)  more prep the better
20:14 carmenh         I am here though if anyone needs me to do anything … i was planning on finalizing my outline for Uintah today but I am available for anything :) … anything Bywater and Koha related anyway LOL
20:08 talljoy         it happens
20:07 bag             Ginny got hand,foot, and mouth disease from her school
20:07 bag             yeah JesseM's kid has been sick - tis the season
20:06 carmenh         yup … sorry about everything though … bad season with sickness :(
20:06 bag             hopefully you are feeling well enough for your training next week?  (It's next week right)?
20:06 bag             I get those a bunch too...  you on the good drugs?
20:05 bag             ouch
20:05 carmenh         bag… have a sinus infection and ear infection …
20:04 bag             welcome back carmenh - you feeling better?
19:45 JesseM          Cool video tgoat
19:43 ashimema        reasonably up to date too.. 3.12.11
19:42 ashimema        http://library.uog.edu.gy:81/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
19:42 ashimema        looks like koha to me ;)
19:41 talljoy         are they still on Koha?
19:41 talljoy         Guyana!!!
19:41 talljoy         http://koha-community.org/koha-newsletter-volume-2issue-5-may-2011/#Guyana
19:40 talljoy         later magnuse
19:39 bag             later magnuse - be excellent dood
19:39 bag             well talljoy I don't know if you need to have a koha library there - you just need to volunteer to host
19:39 * magnuse       calls it a day - have fun #koha!
19:38 talljoy         are there any koha libraries in the carribean?  who do i need to contact to get this going.  ;-)
19:34 bag             yeah I'd vote for the carribean too
19:34 tgoat           That’s be awesome .. no presure.?! http://youtu.be/TQ8RLpbgy8E
19:33 jcamins         Who can be first?"
19:33 jcamins         There could be a competition: "everyone has written a patch for Koha at 10k feet, but how many have written a patch for Koha while accelerating at 9.81ms^2?
19:32 tgoat           http://skydivearuba.com/
19:31 * JesseM        agrees with magnuse too
19:31 tgoat           http://www.puertoricoskydiving.com/
19:30 talljoy         i would too!
19:29 * magnuse       would vote for the carribean
19:28 tgoat           I think our KohaCon 2016 should be at a drop zone in the carribean!
19:28 tgoat           nice!
19:28 jcamins         I just found out that a colleague does skydiving yesterday.
19:27 tgoat           base jumps are fun but not much visual and too much pucker factor
19:27 talljoy         whatev
19:27 talljoy         or all of them.
19:27 talljoy         and maybe some broken bones..
19:27 tgoat           right ..
19:27 talljoy         less room=more excitement.
19:27 talljoy         tgoat  --wuss
19:27 magnuse         ah
19:26 tgoat           above ground level
19:26 magnuse         agl?
19:26 tgoat           give me 35,000 agl and im in!
19:26 talljoy         shouldn't stop you.
19:26 tgoat           not much agl at 25,000 above macchu picchu
19:26 talljoy         noted jcamins
19:26 jcamins         talljoy: don't.
19:26 bag             oh man I would love to do that
19:25 tgoat           I know I would!
19:25 talljoy         bag tgoat probably jumped off the airplane at 25K feet and parachuted into Macchu Picchu
19:25 talljoy         never flown ariana jcamins
19:24 tgoat           Peru was great in Jan
19:24 bag             HA talljoy tgoat went in Jan and didn't have a problem
19:24 jcamins         talljoy: ever flown Ariana?
19:22 talljoy         either way. :-P
19:22 talljoy         or LAN Peru
19:21 talljoy         i would too....but that would involve more interaction with LAN Chile.
19:20 * magnuse       wants to go to macchu picchu some time...
19:19 talljoy         truly amazing.
19:19 talljoy         they are spectacular.
19:19 bag             Yeah I want to see the Andes sometime - both times I fly over those talljoy it was the middle of the night so I couldn't see anything
19:19 * jcamins       had forgotten.
19:19 jcamins         Oh, yeah, I did hear about that.
19:18 talljoy         fog birds bus ride, etc etc.
19:17 talljoy         you knew about the first part to Chile, yes?
19:17 jcamins         Wow.
19:16 jcamins         lol
19:16 talljoy         at least the view was spectacular.  the Andes are amazing.
19:15 talljoy         from SCl to COR i flew over the andes 3 times.  couldn't land in COR due to weather.
19:15 talljoy         oh yes.
19:15 jcamins         I didn't realize that you had any unusual difficulties on your way to Argentina, though.
19:15 jcamins         Right, that I knew.
19:15 talljoy         itinerary had 4 segments and the first 3 were ok.  but i was not on the passenger rolls for the ride home.
19:14 talljoy         LAN Chile cancelled my reservation for the final leg home.
19:14 jcamins         talljoy: what happened on the way out? I missed that.
19:13 magnuse         lol
19:12 talljoy         and really...how could i make all that up?
19:12 talljoy         except people may think it is fiction.  tcohen didn't believe my story when I told it.  :-D
19:11 talljoy         i may just write that magnuse!
19:10 magnuse         i am waiting for the book. "The peregrinations of Talljoy"
19:09 cait            seemed like you had enough of bad luck for a while
19:09 cait            :( i was so sure it would work this time
19:08 cait            aah
19:07 talljoy         and noone knows why.  so i'm in the process of writing strongly worded letters.
19:07 talljoy         yes it did.  apparently LAN Chile decided I didn't need to return home and cancelled my reservation from SCL to DFW.
19:07 cait            rangi is out shopping (or napping) and i am packing...
19:07 cait            hot!
19:07 cait            heard that your flight got complicated again?
19:07 talljoy         hi cait!!  how's cordoba?
19:07 cait            hi talljoy :)
19:06 jcamins         Yeah, everyone always thinks I'm joking when I tell them about it.
19:06 talljoy         new favorite word.
19:06 talljoy         smør-panik
19:06 talljoy         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_butter_crisis
19:06 wahanui         OK, jcamins.
19:06 jcamins         wahanui: Norwegian butter crisis is the worst thing for slice bread since the butter battle.
19:05 jcamins         butter crisis?
19:05 jcamins         norwegian butter crisis?
19:05 talljoy         i missed that in the news.
19:05 jcamins         It was really bad!
19:05 jcamins         talljoy: the Norwegian butter crisis!
19:05 magnuse         talljoy: ask jcamins
19:04 jcamins         Well, Shari was. I was going to Iceland because they had free layoverrs.
19:04 wahanui         butter is mtompset's guess. I really don't know.
19:04 talljoy         butter?
19:04 jcamins         magnuse: no, but we were only going to Iceland to get to Norway.
19:04 magnuse         talljoy: just bring some butter and you will be ok
19:04 talljoy         true that!
19:04 magnuse         but don't blame norway for that ;-)
19:03 jcamins         A few weeks. There were still no flights to Reykjavik.
19:03 jcamins         Oh, no, looks like there was more time between the eruption and our trip than I remembered.
19:01 talljoy         lot of people stranded in a lot of places across europe due to that.
19:00 jcamins         We were due to fly to Iceland either that day or the day after.
18:59 talljoy         yes, i remember that.  everything got fubarred with that.
18:59 jcamins         magnuse: the one time anyone in my family was trying to fly to Norway, a volcano erupted in Iceland, completely canceling all the flights.
18:59 talljoy         i only travel with my butler, so i can only go as far as American Airlines flies.... probably someplace in Europe.  then i'm on my own.
18:58 talljoy         ha!
18:58 magnuse         talljoy: i *think* you will find the flights to norway less, um, interesting than what you are used to
18:58 jcamins         talljoy: if you'd gotten stuck in BA you could've learned tango when your flight was canceled!
18:58 bag             https://library.washoecounty.us/
18:57 magnuse         cool
18:57 bag             magnuse: I actually have one library opac on plack and I'm getting ready to do a few more
18:57 talljoy         :-)
18:57 magnuse         lol
18:57 bag             magnuse: yes I can't wait for plack
18:57 talljoy         as long as I don't have to go through Chile, I'm alright!
18:57 bag             ok talljoy is in and I am out :P
18:57 talljoy         sweet.  how are the flights to Norway?
18:56 magnuse         talljoy: you're in!
18:56 talljoy         I want to move in too!  i'll bring the butler.  he can straighten up after all of us!
18:51 magnuse         and OPL are pretty interested too
18:51 magnuse         i have one library that is dying to use plack
18:50 magnuse         :-)
18:50 bag             I nagged yesterday I think - will set reminder for next monday
18:50 magnuse         w00t
18:50 bag             once we get a few more patches pushed to master we should be able to roll that package :D
18:50 magnuse         maybe we need to start a nagging campaign...
18:50 bag             yes that one :)
18:49 magnuse         bag: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha-plack.git;a=tree;f=koha ?
18:47 bag             magnuse: I can't wait for the koha-plackify package :D
18:47 bag             yeah me too
18:39 magnuse         man, i love the koha-* scripts
18:32 magnuse         would be nice if were more complementary ;-)
18:32 magnuse         dang, that sounds like me
18:31 bag             excellent!  I can cook - but not too excellent on the cleaning part
18:31 bag             :P
18:31 magnuse         sure!
18:31 bag             can I come move in with you?
18:31 magnuse         yup
18:31 bag             that's pretty cool magnuse
18:30 cait            cool!
18:30 magnuse         oh and cait++ of course
18:29 magnuse         7 weeks with him this summer + 1 day per week until xmas, all paid for by our taxes ;-)
18:28 magnuse         and i spent all day with him. i get to stay at home with him 1 day per week until xmas, as part of our paternity leave system
18:28 magnuse         he's asleep
18:27 bag             better to chill with the little one than import borrowers :P
18:27 magnuse         well, i was going to look at importing some patron dat into koha...
18:26 magnuse         just chillin'
18:26 bag             magnuse: what's up my most excellent man :D
18:26 magnuse         bag: HI
18:18 bag             cait++
18:18 cait            hola bag :)
18:16 bag             hola cait
18:11 bag             yeah jcamins driving in pitt is pretty rough I've always heard
18:09 jcamins         khall_away: thanks. We'll be in Pittsburgh for a wedding, and I don't much want to rent a car.
17:58 khall           it doesn't go out very far, but it'll get you around the city. clean too
17:57 khall           yeah, there's a very good bus system, and light rail as well
17:57 jcamins         khall: random question for you... is public transit usable to get around Pittsburgh?
16:52 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_D7 build #184: STILL FAILING in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/184/
16:34 talljoy         hiya bag.
16:34 bag             hola talljoy
16:27 ashimema        makes good sense..
16:27 ashimema        Indeed.. I've taken a look at the test patch.. thanks rangi, tcohen
16:21 gentlemanbeggar ok, well, I'll keep plugging at it.
16:18 bag             later tcohen
16:18 tcohen          jenkins will build correctly now
16:18 bag             or just see how different they are
16:18 tcohen          have to run
16:18 gentlemanbeggar I assume I have to find a way to merge those first?
16:17 gentlemanbeggar circ.cir and stat.cir
16:17 gentlemanbeggar Okay, son in athena, you've got 2 files that actually track circ history... why they split it up is beyond me
16:16 bag             we then use the item-barcode and the patron-barcode to match (since koha uses an itemnumber and borrowernumber.
16:15 bag             yes.  Usually what we do is get the circulation history into a csv (spreadsheet)
16:15 cait            see you all soon :)
16:15 cait            packing up for lunch
16:15 gentlemanbeggar right... using a perl script...
16:14 tgoat           morning bag :D
16:14 bag             gentlemanbeggar: to import your circulation history - that would need to be done on the commandline.
16:14 gentlemanbeggar or am I barking up the wrong tree entirely?
16:14 huginn          bag: The current temperature in UNR Campus, LMR Roof, Reno, Nevada is 10.4°C (9:13 AM PDT on October 16, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
16:14 bag             @wunder reno nv
16:14 gentlemanbeggar Is it possible to import circulation history?
16:14 bag             what's the weather like there tgoat ?
16:14 bag             good morning tgoat
16:14 bag             look at different information in the manual gentlemanbeggar
16:13 bag             the nice thing is that you can use the staff side to import your records
16:13 bag             usually you want to have all your data (marc records) in a good file and then import those into koha
16:13 tgoat           Good morning Koha peeps! Im coming to you live from beautiful Reno/Tahoe .. whazzzzup :D Just wanna say that you guys are “da BOMB!” :D
16:13 bag             I think the best thing is to read the different documents and then try somethings
16:12 bag             ah gentlemanbeggar it took me years to get comfortable installing koha - but now it's about 10 times easier than it used to be.
16:08 gentlemanbeggar I feel like an idiot.
16:08 gentlemanbeggar like I said, "basically, I'm 5"
16:08 gentlemanbeggar I'm not even entirely sure *how* to run it.
16:08 gentlemanbeggar They all say to run this perl script, but I'm not sure if I run it on the koha server or somewhere else then import to koha, or what
16:07 gentlemanbeggar Yeah, I've looked at the migration toolbox, but I can't make heads or tails of how to actually use it.  I've looked at all the documentation I can find about converting the two files from athena to something useful for koha, but again, I think I'm thick, because I have yet to figure out how to do what they say to do.
16:06 wahanui         i think manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
16:06 bag             manual?
16:04 rangi           also https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox
16:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12646 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Only "top 20" rows visible in invoices search result
16:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12927 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Problems with item information tab on acq order from staged page
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12646: Display all invoices on the same page
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12927: Problems with item information tab on acq order from staged page
16:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Shibboleth authentication patch
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8446: (qa followup) Patch reintroduces SolR stuff
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8446: (qa followup) Tests should be conditional on Test::DBIx::Class
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Add Test::DBIx::Class to dependancies
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Use DBIx::Class
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Minor Code Tidies
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Cleanup tabs and license
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Add Unit Tests
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Refactor to clean up bad practice
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Improve local login fallback
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Jesse Weaver: BUG8446, Follow up: Remove unnecessary sysprefs, move to config
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Adds Shibboleth authentication
16:03 jenkins_koha    * Matthias Meusburger: BUG8446: Adds Shibboleth authentication
16:03 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_D7 build #183: FAILURE in 1 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/183/
16:03 gaetan_B        bye
16:02 rangi           you'll have to mangle it, im sure athena will dump it out in a non useful way
16:02 rangi           and the schema if you are trying to import old circ data
16:01 rangi           also check the manual for circulation rules
16:01 gentlemanbeggar ok, thanks
16:01 rangi           gentlemanbeggar: none of us here know, its done by a third party, not by the release team, probably best to email who makes the dvd
16:00 rangi           ashimema: you should check out the little trick we worked out, for making the tests not explode without test::dbix::class
16:00 gentlemanbeggar from ubuntu packages
15:59 tcohen          ashimema: all of us do
15:59 gentlemanbeggar My understanding is, the live dvd is basically a straightforward package installation
15:58 * ashimema      jumps for joy
15:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12646 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Only "top 20" rows visible in invoices search result
15:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12927 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Problems with item information tab on acq order from staged page
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12646: Display all invoices on the same page
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12927: Problems with item information tab on acq order from staged page
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8446: (qa followup) Patch reintroduces SolR stuff
15:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Shibboleth authentication patch
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8446: (qa followup) Tests should be conditional on Test::DBIx::Class
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Add Test::DBIx::Class to dependancies
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Use DBIx::Class
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Minor Code Tidies
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, QA Followup: Cleanup tabs and license
15:58 gentlemanbeggar I tried going with the packages, and got so confused I forgot what state I was in.  I think my first mistake was trying it on my fog server.  This time I'm running it on a completely seperate machine.
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Add Unit Tests
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Refactor to clean up bad practice
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Improve local login fallback
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Jesse Weaver: BUG8446, Follow up: Remove unnecessary sysprefs, move to config
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Martin Renvoize: BUG8446, Follow up: Adds Shibboleth authentication
15:58 jenkins_koha    * Matthias Meusburger: BUG8446: Adds Shibboleth authentication
15:58 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_U12 build #187: FAILURE in 1 min 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/187/
15:56 cait            I am not sure how the live dvd is set up
15:55 cait            I'd recommend installing with the packages for a production installation
15:55 cait            you don't need to know perl to set up circulation rules
15:54 gentlemanbeggar Ok, so I cheated, and just downloaded the koha live-dvd and did the full install onto a server.  I've imported all my patron data and my catalog data from Athena, but I'll be dogged if I can figure out this circulation business.  I have zero experience with perl, and I'm not sure how to make a direct connection into the mysql on the linux server from my windows desktop.  Basically, I'm 5 years old, and have no idea what I'm doing.  HELP!
15:53 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12646: Display all invoices on the same page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3099d7c597c4b8d1dc7b61bd9d0d0484cbb77a1> / Bug 12927: Problems with item information tab on acq order from staged page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b9b057c77ce982bf32ac797abfdd00f87102d75> / Bug 8446: (qa followup) Patch reintroduces SolR stuff <http://git.koha-community.org
15:44 cait            :)
15:34 ashimema        It's awesome to have seen magnuse run with it and create that Vagrant.. 'tis lovely :)
15:34 ashimema        I never thought my quick hack up of an 'install-koha.sh' script would go so far..
15:31 rangi           cait: https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
15:09 marcelr         have to go ; bye all
15:08 cait            thx
15:08 marcelr         will have a look, mabye tomorrow
15:08 cait            it was using the date plugin AND format_date
15:08 cait            it's kind of a weird error that occurrd on my system and might not be reproducable, but the fix is pretty easy
15:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13071 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Currency page shows perl error under some circumstances
15:08 marcelr         bug 13071
15:07 cait            marcelr: could you give 13071 qa? i signed off on it
15:07 cait            marcelr++ # RDA!
15:06 cait            and we need to start
15:06 cait            nope
15:06 marcelr         not hard to adjust
15:06 cait            it's still bit mysterious to me
15:06 cait            i think time will tell if we got it right with RDA
15:06 marcelr         thx cait++
15:06 reiveune        bye
15:05 cait            passing :)
15:04 marcelr         but is the same code
15:03 cait            bit more centralized now
15:03 cait            yeah, but at least it is less redundant than before
15:03 marcelr         unfortunately
15:03 marcelr         there is only redundancy between opac and staff
15:03 cait            i like that :)
15:02 marcelr         i moved it to a util
15:02 marcelr         yes
15:01 cait            or i hope so :)
15:01 cait            marcelr: i think you used the same logic on all patches?
15:01 marcelr         but quite foolproof, i hope
15:01 marcelr         maybe not so trivial as i recollected :)
15:01 cait            understood
15:01 cait            alright
15:00 marcelr         but if you forget the indicator. it still picks one
15:00 marcelr         normally they should have a latest
15:00 cait            'publisher - latest'
15:00 cait            aah
15:00 marcelr         one of the indicators tells you if it is the latest or ..
15:00 marcelr         yes it always looks for a publisher first
14:59 cait            should the 2] be publisher or something else?
14:59 cait            [2] Else try to select a Publisher. Pick the last one.
14:59 cait            [1] Try to select a Publisher -- Latest. Pick first one.
14:59 marcelr         inspired by the fact that it is actually the publisher line
14:59 cait            hard to tell right now
14:59 cait            but the other patches already passed and we will need time to figure out what people want
14:59 cait            if someone catalogs them, they might want to see?
14:59 cait            hm not sure
14:58 marcelr         it makes a smart selection
14:58 marcelr         might be a lot of info
14:58 cait            why not display all of them?
14:58 marcelr         yes
14:58 cait            so 264 is repeatable, as 260 is
14:58 cait            i am not sure i understand how the rules work
14:57 cait            true
14:56 marcelr         it removes nothing,is only presentation :)
14:56 cait            q
14:55 cait            so I think we can change that later indeed if someone wants to
14:55 marcelr         i have to look at the patch again but is already some time ago ..
14:55 cait            i think your patch doesn't remove it, it just seems to prefer 260 for now?
14:55 cait            i am not usre how our union catalog will deal with it, buti think we might have both fields too
14:55 marcelr         if it is a problem, we can solve that
14:54 cait            i think for the transition time that can take a while, it's a not to unlikely possibility to have both
14:54 cait            or for use in databases etc
14:54 cait            I know a lot of libraires export their data for uploading into other systems
14:54 cait            yes me too :)
14:53 marcelr         yes but i mean in one record
14:53 cait            they might still catalog both as some systems are not RDA ready
14:53 marcelr         it would be strange, but is possible
14:53 cait            because people shift data now
14:53 bag             hola
14:53 cait            i think they might in some cases
14:53 marcelr         well, normally they are not both present
14:53 cait            and then fall back to the rda tag?
14:53 cait            so you prefer to display 260 when it#s there?
14:53 marcelr         cool
14:53 cait            i am looking at that right now :)
14:53 cait            true - but less far than nz or australia :)
14:53 marcelr         i still have one nice small rda patch for you :)
14:52 marcelr         at least
14:52 marcelr         from europe
14:52 cait            we will see how far we can get - i will try to work on the gst patches, but there are lots of dependencies
14:52 marcelr         argentina is a place you will not come often
14:51 cait            it's a bit bad timing :)
14:51 marcelr         too bad ;)
14:51 cait            so he won't be able to do work on his patches
14:50 marcelr         nice
14:50 cait            travelling around Argentina
14:50 cait            Joubu is on vacation now until end of October (3 weeks)
14:50 cait            i'd also like if someone else could take a look at the relatives see what you checked out patch
14:50 marcelr         still on my list; but i hoped for some changes from Joubu
14:50 cait            that would be cool
14:50 marcelr         i will take another look soon at the marc mod templates stuff
14:49 cait            lots of work to do - only making a small dent right now
14:49 cait            s
14:49 cait            there are lots of big patche
14:49 cait            thx
14:49 marcelr         #
14:49 marcelr         cait++ /qa
14:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13080 major, P2, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Addition of noEnterSubmit class should not apply to textarea, only to input
14:32 cait            also oleonard++ # bug 13080
14:31 wahanui         :)
14:31 druthb          wahanui:  botsnack cookie
14:31 druthb          lol
14:31 cait            yep... that's what i thought
14:31 wahanui         Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
14:31 druthb          germs?
14:30 wahanui         germany is where germs come from. Ask me about germs.
14:30 cait            germany?
14:30 druthb          hm.
14:30 cait            barton: it looks a loooot nicer :)
14:30 wahanui         cait is from germany. Ask me about germany.
14:30 druthb          wahanui:  cait?
14:30 wahanui         i guess jdavidb is no more...call her druthb now, please.
14:30 druthb          wahanui:  jdavidb?
14:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11271 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Serials table off the screen in smaller viewports
14:30 jenkins_koha    Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10126: (qa followup) fix tests
14:30 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_U12 build #186: FIXED in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/186/
14:30 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:30 wahanui         Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
14:30 barton          cait, you made me look at bug 11271 -- just had to know what you mean by 'pretty magic' ;-)
14:30 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
14:30 druthb          wahanui:  druthb?
14:27 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10126 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Reports::Guided is not Plack safe
14:27 jenkins_koha    Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10126: (qa followup) fix tests
14:27 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #117: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/117/
14:27 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:27 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
14:27 tcohen          so it is doable
14:27 tcohen          as jcamins said :-D
14:27 tcohen          XSLTs is a full programming language you can mangle your record fields/subfields for indexing with
14:27 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
14:27 cait            @later tell oleonard bug 11271 is pretty magic :)
14:26 barton          no, not yet... I've just been doing research this morning.
14:26 tcohen          did u fill a bug report for that?
14:26 cait            tcohen: it's in the standard - we got a library tht would like it too :)
14:25 barton          tcohen I think that it's fairly generically applicable... it would be extending Koha's implementation of the marc21 standard.
14:25 cait            got it sorted
14:24 tcohen          the other one could be a bit tricky
14:24 tcohen          the latter, easy to do
14:24 tcohen          barton: is it something everyone could benefit of, or just custom stuff you have?
14:22 barton          tcohen I have a partner who is looking to index marc21 880 records, i.e. 'Alternate Graphic Representation'... the $6 subfield is a 'linkage' that describes which code the field is the representation of, and a couple of things about the representation, e.g. the script used (Cyrillic, Hebrew, Arabic etc) and the orientation (left to right, right to left, etc) ... all of the other subfields match the field that is pointed to... so if 880$6 ind
14:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10126 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Reports::Guided is not Plack safe
14:21 jenkins_koha    Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10126: (qa followup) fix tests
14:21 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_D7 build #182: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/182/
14:21 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:21 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
14:21 cait            can someone reind me on how to make an item show up in the holds queue report?
14:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10126 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Reports::Guided is not Plack safe
14:14 jenkins_koha    Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10126: (qa followup) fix tests
14:14 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master_U14 build #171: FIXED in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/171/
14:14 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:14 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
14:11 tcohen          barton, what do u want to do?
14:04 barton          thanks cait, jcamins.
13:58 cait            also the work tomas has done for the facets
13:58 cait            yep
13:58 jcamins         Check gmcharlt's commit messages and bug reports.
13:58 cait            yeah you need to enhance it
13:57 barton          cait, jcamins, where would I find documentation on advanced indexing in DOM? Everything that I've worked with so far has been the same information that's present in GRS1 via record.abs.
13:57 tcohen          :-D
13:57 jcamins         tcohen: I can do some testing, but probably not until I get back from Orlando next week.
13:55 cait            hm that idea was from one of our libraries, i just filed it
13:55 marcelr         or perhaps we can even widen the scope little bit; or should I open a new report?
13:55 marcelr         cait: would you agree if i would change this to send acctdetails mail if staff changes username or password ?
13:54 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9097 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Welcome mail' for new library users
13:54 marcelr         cait: bug 9097
13:53 tcohen          jcamins: could you try master searches/facets from time to time? so you spot any trouble?
13:53 cait            :)
13:53 jcamins         :)
13:52 tcohen          with cait and rangi, at my office!
13:52 tcohen          hackfest still happening
13:52 tcohen          no yet
13:51 jcamins         Hi, tcohen. Recovered from running a conference yet?
13:50 cait            ashimema: i could send it to you, i think i have it as an email
13:50 cait            back
13:50 tcohen          hi jcamins
13:49 jcamins         barton: I'm not saying it's trivial, but indexing 880s is definitely doable with DOM. Or would be if anyone cared enough.
13:31 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10126: (qa followup) fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31cff582d8b7403e45ad081d79ad8990372e0352>
13:30 cait            sorry, brb
13:30 ashimema        think I gave you a copy of that annotated shibboleth2.xml.. happen to still have it lying around or on your personal wiki?
13:29 ashimema        cait.. about?
13:29 ashimema        oops.
13:29 ashimema        ooh.. the 'example' shibboleth2.xml isn't on the wiki yet..
13:28 ashimema        should be linked to in the main commit message.. maybe needs to be a bit clearer..
13:28 ashimema        Did you spot: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Shibboleth_Configuration
13:27 wahanui         hmmm... link is broken. Also, we don't know what tools you're using to create the marc, but there is probably an option in that tool.
13:27 tcohen          link?
13:27 tcohen          help me set shibboleth
13:26 ashimema        :)
13:26 tcohen          ashimema:
13:10 cait            [off] if you want to see some examples with hebrew https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=dvd
13:10 cait            barton: display is a bit broken in bootstrap right now, should be fixed soon
13:09 cait            $c that is
13:09 cait            barton: i think for display it might be nice to fill out the date too
13:08 rangi           cait: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
13:06 barton          right now, I'm more concerned about things like the fact that if 880$6 points to 260, $c is a date (wouldn't be in hebrew) , whereas 245$c is 'statement of responsibility', which would have a hebrew representation... I don't necessarily think that they want all of the fields indexed perfectly, but I don't want corrupted data.
13:02 barton          I'll have to talk to the partner to find out how far they want to go with that...
13:01 barton          right.
13:00 cait            the trick would be to not just index 880 as any, but into the correct indexes
13:00 barton          nod.
13:00 cait            it's not there currently
13:00 cait            but... needs development
13:00 barton          mir ist das guet
13:00 cait            barton: it would probably be doable with DOM
12:59 ashimema        I'm game for Germany 2016 ;)
12:58 barton          so if the $6 field points to a '100' field, 880$a contains the alternate representation of a name, if $6 contains 245, 880$a is a title, etc.
12:57 barton          the linkage is in $6 -- alll other subfields describe the field being pointed to.
12:56 barton          Does anyone have experience with indexing the marc21 880 field? It's 'alternate graphic representation' and might contain a hebrew, cyrillic, arabic version of a piece of text. ... the tricky part is that there's a 'linkage' field that points back to the text being translated...
12:54 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #12: FIXED in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_U12/12/
12:54 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:54 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
12:53 barton          morning #koha!
12:36 cait            but I think we'd need the ok from someone higher up :)
12:36 marcelr         go for it, cait
12:36 * cait          would love to
12:36 marcelr         rangi++
12:36 rangi           you could volunteer to help :-)
12:35 rangi           im trying to get cait to organise one in germany for 2016
12:34 marcelr         hope for a kohacon in europe again
12:33 paul_p          wake up at 3AM, at the airport at 4, 1st take off at 6AM. 3 hours flight to Sao Paulo, 7 hours waiting, 11H Sao Paulo > Paris, 2H waiting, 1H Paris > Marseille, 1H bus+metro to be at home !
12:32 marcelr         27H.. wow
12:32 paul_p          i've seen your follow-up. I really like your approach and will try to have a look asap
12:31 paul_p          yep, back home. after 27H trip, including 7H waiting at Sao Paulo, that is not fun...
12:31 paul_p          hi marcelr & everybody
12:28 marcelr         still wrote a follow-up on 13068
12:28 marcelr         back in france ?
12:27 marcelr         hi paul_p
12:26 tcohen          hi ashimema
12:24 marcelr         :)
12:24 marcelr         your morning is still quite late
12:24 marcelr         hi rangi
12:24 rangi           morning
12:22 cait            hi ashimema :)
12:22 ashimema        hello cait, tcohen
12:22 tcohen          hi marcelr cait rangi
12:22 tcohen          hi
12:21 marcelr         still in argentina cait
12:21 cait            hola :)
12:21 marcelr         hi cait && tcohen
11:51 magnuse         and now he is sleeping
11:51 magnuse         so very good, akshuly :-)
11:51 magnuse         today is my one-day-a-week-stay-at-home-with-kiddo-day
11:50 magnuse         good
11:44 ashimema        hows it going magnuse?
11:44 huginn          ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 17.6°C (12:41 PM BST on October 16, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
11:44 ashimema        @wunder stevenage, uk
11:43 magnuse         hiya ashimema
11:40 ashimema        hello
11:38 cait            beb ack in a bit
11:38 cait            packing up to go to uni
11:38 * cait          waves back
11:35 * magnuse       waves at cait
11:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12229 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , tools/export.pl fix to forbid adding of invalid records
11:17 jenkins_koha    Stéphane Delaune: Bug 12229: when exporting MARC records (as ISO2709), refuse to output records that would be longer than the MARC limit
11:17 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.14.x_U12 build #45: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x_U12/45/
11:17 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
11:17 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
07:46 marcelr         hi ashimema
07:45 ashimema        monring #koha
07:38 gaetan_B        hello
07:12 marcelr         mtompset++ #so and unit test
07:11 marcelr         hi #koha
06:57 alex_a          bonjour
06:52 fridolin        hie community
06:40 reiveune        hello
05:28 mtompset        Have a great day, #koha.
04:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol
04:33 mtompset        By the way... bug 5010 is waiting for sign off. :)
04:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC)
04:28 mtompset        There... bug 6874 rebased using the new 5010 patch.
04:23 * mtompset      shrugs. Oh well. Got it to work on my Ubuntu VM.
04:17 eythian         git bz attach 1234 HEAD or similar, iirc
04:16 mtompset        git bz attach ... what?
04:16 mtompset        Sorry... it's past midnight, grammar fading.
04:16 mtompset        how do I specific a particular bug number?
04:12 eythian         does git bz have a login process? (I can't remember)
04:12 eythian         after this, I'm out of ideas
04:12 eythian         changed password? they're set right in the config?
04:12 eythian         hmm
04:11 mtompset        Yes, I am on the correct branch.
04:10 eythian         (fishsoup iirc)
04:10 mtompset        let me check again...
04:09 eythian         you're on the right branch?
04:09 mtompset        I was thinking that. but when I went over to my git-bz directory the git pull says I'm up to date.
04:08 eythian         you're possibly on an old version of git bz
04:08 mtompset        Okay... I'm feeling like a dunce here. I have an eleven patch bug fix I wish to attach, but it's not git bz attaching it. It returns a page saying I need to log in. What don't I have set correctly?
02:31 rangi           yep
02:26 cait            that was an awesome dinner