Time  Nick        Message
02:28 * eythian   notes that the "Library saved" message when you add a library to Koha is themed like an error, i.e. in a red box.
05:04 * Oak       waves
05:07 Oak         in LDR 000 what is the difference between values 45e0 and 4500?
05:17 Oak         wait
05:30 magnuse     Oak
05:36 Oak         magnuse
05:36 Oak         \o/
05:47 magnuse     :-)
05:47 * magnuse   wonders who is giving the talk on "Extending Koha using linked data" at kohacon
05:50 Oak         ah. someone better record that talk in good audio. and preferably in 720 video as well. steady hand.
05:52 * Oak       wonders who will record and upload the talk on "Extending Koha using linked data" at kohacon for the poor souls who cannot be there.
05:57 Oak         magnuse, if one needs to test an sql report on Koha 3.4, how can that be done? someone called me and says this report http://goo.gl/fb8KxL does not work on his 3.4.
06:01 magnuse     hm, if you have a dev install, you can check out the 3.4.x branch, empty the database and then run through the web installer, to get a working 3.4. or tell them to upgrade
06:03 Oak         hmm.
06:04 Oak         and i have not checked all links but seems like tars links here are broken http://koha-community.org/category/3-4/
06:12 ashimema    morning koha
06:18 Oak         morning ashimema !
06:36 ashimema    Right.. I 'think' all my utf8 testing is now done.. damn that was a long qa cycle..
06:36 ashimema    @later tell tcohen did the tests for utf8 stuff ever get past go?
06:36 huginn      ashimema: The operation succeeded.
06:36 Oak         ashimema++
06:38 reiveune    hello
06:38 wahanui     bonjour, reiveune
06:41 magnuse     ashimema++
06:41 magnuse     Joubu++
06:41 ashimema    magnuse.. what are your thoughts on utf8 vs utf8_mb4 for mysql?
06:41 magnuse     dunno
06:41 ashimema    that's the very last it I wanted comment on from Joubu and others..
06:42 ashimema    haha.. no worries.. it's pretty fringe information
06:42 magnuse     yeah, i don't know mysql well enough i guess
06:42 ashimema    https://mathiasbynens.be/notes/mysql-utf8mb4 - for background to the question ;)
06:43 magnuse     but if you think it is a good idea and have been using it in production i would vote for it, i think :-)
06:43 ashimema    Yeah.. all our sites for 3 years have been going in with it ;)
06:43 ashimema    So I can vouch that it's stable..
06:44 magnuse     but only available from MySQL 5.5.3?
06:44 ashimema    and that probably also adds my vote for it being worthwhile.. we're not really using any characters (not knowingly at least) that require it.. but my thoughts are that you never know what crazy character a library might input into a marc record ;)
06:44 magnuse     yup
06:45 magnuse     @get quote 123
06:45 ashimema    fiar point.. yeah.. only available from 5.5.3
06:45 huginn      magnuse: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
06:45 wahanui     i already had it that way, huginn.
06:45 magnuse     @quote 123
06:45 wahanui     @quote get 123
06:45 huginn      magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
06:45 huginn      wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
06:45 wahanui     ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>...
06:45 * ashimema  goes off to check what mysql version currently ships with squeeze
06:49 ashimema    anyone out there got a squeeze server they could run 'apt-cache policy mysql-server' on for me, pretty please?
06:49 ashimema    (and could varify they don't have and 'extra' repositories enabled to get a more up to date mysql than the norm?
06:52 Oak         i'll run it ashimema. just let me check if 'extra' is enabled or not.
06:52 ashimema    cheers Oak
06:53 alex_a      bonjour
06:54 pastebot    "Oak" at pasted "output of apt-cache policy mysql-server" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/228
06:55 ashimema    looks like your on wheezy anyway Oak ;)
06:55 ashimema    but thanks regardless
06:55 Oak         bonjour monsieur alex_a
06:55 Oak         oh right
06:55 Oak         you said squeeze :|
06:56 ashimema    we still support squeeze as a community.. So I best not push for utf8_mb4 if squeeze doesn't ship with a current enough version of mysql ;)
06:56 ashimema    I'll see if I can dig out on of our last remaining squeeze's
06:57 Oak         got it.
06:58 Oak         will this help:
06:58 Oak         https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mysql-server
06:58 Oak         i can check the changelogs of the last squeeze update...
06:59 alex_a      hello Oak
07:02 ashimema    Yeah, looks like your right..
07:02 ashimema    'tis an ancient mysql still in squeeze :(
07:02 Joubu       hello
07:03 Oak         it's 5.1.73-1
07:03 Oak         in 6.0.10 which was released July 19th, 2014
07:03 ashimema    yup..
07:04 ashimema    we need 5.5.3 to get mb4 support..
07:04 ashimema    that's a four year old release..
07:04 ashimema    yet still not in squeeze by the looks :(
07:04 ashimema    oh well
07:04 ashimema    it was a 'nice to have' rather than a full on requirement
07:30 gaetan_B    hello
07:33 magnuse     ashimema: and there is no way to set it conditionally? or have older versions silently ignore it?
07:34 ashimema    possibly.. but not as a simple patch like we have already..
07:34 ashimema    means pushing more work Joubu's way.. I didn't want to be that mean ;) for a 'nice to have'
07:36 magnuse     ok
07:38 magnuse     but that means bug 11944 can be "passed qa"?
07:38 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
07:39 magnuse     oh, i forgot dpavlin++ earlier!
07:39 ashimema    pretty much..
07:39 ashimema    I'm just sorting a failing email system on another server.. then I'll be adding my mark and passing qa on it
07:41 Joubu       ashimema: I prefer you don't upload patches
07:41 Joubu       ashimema: I can add you SO line on the branch
07:41 ashimema    ok.. will just scribble in comments and add passed status then ;)
07:42 Joubu       your*
07:42 ashimema    :)
07:42 Joubu       ashimema: thanks. I will ask Tomas to upload them on the bug report when he will push them in master
07:42 Oak         Joubu++
07:43 Oak         dpavlin++
07:43 ashimema    :)
07:43 ashimema    Joubu++
07:43 Joubu       Paola++ & Zeno++ ;)
07:43 Joubu       and ashimema++
08:10 magnuse     bonjour akafred paul_p
08:10 magnuse     yeah Paola++ Zeno++
08:11 Joubu       welcome akafred :)
08:15 magnuse     nice intro on koha-devel :-)
08:15 magnuse     and that message got through, but there might still be a backlog somewhere?
09:04 rangi       akafred: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2013-July/036714.html
09:11 magnuse     yay
10:14 ashimema    nice
10:14 ashimema    rangi.. just passed your reply-to patch
10:14 ashimema    patches
10:15 ashimema    that should make cait happy too :)
10:15 magnuse     yay
10:15 magnuse     ashimema++
10:16 ashimema    not bad going this morning.. one massive qa and one smaller one..
10:16 ashimema    nice to cross those off the list :)
10:16 magnuse     awesome!
10:16 wahanui     That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
10:16 magnuse     with pleasure
10:17 magnuse     whoa 210 bugs need signoff?!?
10:17 ashimema    and with any luck.. shibboleth with get caits stamp of approval tomorrow
10:18 ashimema    yeah.. there's a fair bunch in the queue
10:18 ashimema    We're holding some sandbox training sessions over the coming weeks here.. hopefully that'll help a little..
10:20 magnuse     ashimema: who are you training?
10:20 ashimema    to start with, a Uni and a Public library..
10:20 magnuse     cool!
10:20 ashimema    trying to introduce it to our customers slowly.. get some liking it.. then they can sell the sandboxes to the rest of them for us ;)
10:21 magnuse     good plan!
10:23 Joubu       I have a DBIC problem, see my patch submitted on bug 12627 comment 14.
10:23 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12627 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Passed QA , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Suggestions
10:23 Joubu       I am not sure how we can manage this problem better.
10:23 Joubu       But we should, because this method is very ugly.
10:24 Joubu       undef vs null vs 0 vs ''
11:40 Joubu       http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/adding-a-model-abstraction-td3067604.html
11:40 Joubu       whaou, Oct 2008...
11:44 magnuse     Joubu: time flies when you're having fun ;-)
11:46 * Joubu     is searching for the fun
11:50 magnuse     awww...
12:06 * oleonard  concludes from akafred's description of his name being too hard to pronounce that he is in fact a Vulcan.
12:31 akafred     @oleonard That's right, t'hy'la :-)
12:31 huginn      akafred: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
12:32 oleonard    Hi akafred. Don't mind huginn, he's just complaining because of the @ in your message
12:35 * akafred   acknowledges that twitter has ruined his two decades old knowledge of how to address people on irc ...
12:38 akafred     rangi: We have drawn some inspiration from the jbfink docker-approach :-9
13:06 oleonard    We should remove the hold limit option from the Circulation and Fine rules matrix since it doesn't work.
13:25 schnydszch  Hi! anybody here experienced news not showing in their Koha ILS' OPAC? we're using 3.16.3
13:25 oleonard    Did it happen just after an upgrade schnydszch?
13:25 schnydszch  yeah I upgraded
13:26 schnydszch  from 3.16.2 to 3.16.3
13:26 schnydszch  debian package
13:27 schnydszch  but I got the problem in one of my koha instance which was running 3.16.2, I upgraded it, hoping that it will be resolved
13:27 schnydszch  ..since newer version is 3.16.3
13:27 oleonard    Just today schnydszch? It is the last day of the month (in my time zone anyway): Bug 12507
13:27 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12507 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , News does not always display in staff or OPAC
13:28 schnydszch  yeah just today.. and yes it's the last day of the month here too
13:29 schnydszch  okay got it.. thanks! I'll see it tomorrow :) thanks!
13:33 oleonard    By the way schnydszch, you emails to the Koha list always end up in my spam folder (with gmail). Maybe because they're sent through Nabble?
13:33 schnydszch  I got alerted that some staff could have edited or remove customizations in the OPAC. sigh of relief it's just a bug. Thanks and cheers!
13:34 oleonard    I just thought i'd mention it in case you weren't getting responses
13:36 schnydszch  yes oleonard, i'm using nabble
13:36 mm123       hello. I have recently updated Koha to version 3.14.10, did a full reindexing. However, when doing a search i get the following: No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl:
13:36 mm123       any suggestions of what might have gone wrong?
13:36 schnydszch  so i should not stick with nabble? any other way?
13:37 oleonard    schnydszch: You might consider subscribing to the email list instead.
13:37 oleonard    mailing list?
13:37 wahanui     well, mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:38 schnydszch  okay i'll do that
13:38 schnydszch  thanks! :)
13:39 mm123       when searching in OPAC i get the following: No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl:
13:39 oleonard    You're welcome schnydszch
13:45 oleonard    Anyone here who can run mm123 through the standard routine of verifying Zebra is working?
13:47 schnydszch  mm123 you can try this: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ installing/upgrading part
13:51 mm123       last night i manually ran a full zebra reindex
13:51 mm123       perl /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v
13:51 mm123       because the librarian reported issues with search
13:51 mm123       the reindexing seemed to have worked
13:52 mm123       but the seach is still not working this morning
13:52 schnydszch  try to clear zebra indexes
13:53 mm123       kind of emabrassing, but how do i do that?
13:53 mm123       so sorry
13:53 schnydszch  i'm using debian package so i can only relate with debian package installation, how did you install your koha ils?
13:53 schnydszch  this worked for me:  $ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init     $ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities init
13:54 mm123       git
13:56 schnydszch  oopps.. i haven't tried git, i always go for debian package installation since it's easier :) but maybe you can try clearing first your zebra index.
13:56 schnydszch  then rebuild your zebra index
13:57 oleonard    mm123: Is koha-zebra-daemon running? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git#Setup_Zebra
13:58 mm123       this is set in crontab
13:58 mm123       # ZEBRA INDEX UPDATES with -z option, incremental index updates throughout the $ # for both authorities(REMOVED) and bibs 5 * * * *  /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z $
13:59 oleonard    mm123: That refers to the index process, but the Zebra service needs to be running in order for Koha to interface with the index which that cron job builds
14:25 mm123       i tried to clear Zebra by running the following command zebraidx -c /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg drop biblios
14:25 mm123       but then I get [fatal] zebra_begin_trans: cannot open register
14:27 schnydszch  hi! have you tried oleonard's suggestion? checking the status of koha zebra daemon
14:31 mm123       zebrasrv appears to be started
14:38 schnydszch  hi! googling your error i see this, you can probably start from here: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2010-02-24 cheers!
15:53 oleonard    If anyone can do something to get Bug 12892 moving again I would appreciate it
15:53 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen
15:53 oleonard    khall?
15:53 khall       yo
15:53 oleonard    Are you waiting for something from someone else in order for Bug 12892 to move forward?
15:54 khall       oleonard: yeah, it involves the coding guidelines and whether what the patch does should be allowed or not
15:54 khall       I'm working on an alternative right now
15:55 oleonard    Thanks. I consider the bug a blocker for upgrade for my library so it'd be great to see a fix make it into 3.16.x
15:56 khall       understood, I'm making it a priority
15:57 reiveune    bye
16:13 Malumfashee Is there any body online
16:14 oleonard    Ask you question, Malumfashee, and if someone can answer your question they may
16:18 Malumfashee Please, I am currently an Koha system administrator. My problem with our system is that our institution logo that has been appearing on the OPAC interface of our system which replaced Koha logo before has now disappear. Please how can I restore it back on OPAC so that users can be able to see it. Thanks
16:18 oleonard    Malumfashee: Can you share the link to your OPAC?
16:19 gaetan_B    bye
16:20 Malumfashee Our OPAC is based on Intranet
16:20 Malumfashee Are you online?
16:22 oleonard    What method did you use to change the logo? Did something change before the logo disappeared? An upgrade?
17:17 * magnuse   waves
17:20 * magnuse   waves at meliss and JesseM
17:21 JesseM      Hi magnuse
17:21 meliss      Hello magnuse
17:22 meliss      I have coffee and ready to tackle the rest of the afternoon.
17:28 magnuse     yay
17:29 * magnuse   has gone 40 odd years without coffee
17:34 * magnuse   waves at nengard
17:37 * nengard   waves back
17:37 nengard     :)
18:33 oleonard    Given C4:Branch.pm:GetBranchesLoop (http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Branch.pm;h=83d2010ff445ff3250b3aeef55aad1a0317f13a2;hb=HEAD#l155)...
18:33 oleonard    Would it be wrong to do this? $branchloop = C4::Branch::GetBranchesLoop("");
18:34 oleonard    ...to pass an empty string as the branch in order to force no branches to be "selected" ?
18:34 oleonard    Seems to work, but I'm wondering if it's stylistically incorrect somehow
19:03 magnuse     have fun #koha!
19:30 pablito     hi all
19:31 pablito     anyone here can help me with some errors generated from the koha-common script?
19:32 * cait      waves
19:32 pablito     hi cait
19:32 cait        hi pablito:)
19:32 pablito     long time to chat...how are you? :-)
19:32 cait        tired? :)
19:33 cait        just got home from giving a presentation
19:33 cait        long day
19:33 wahanui     long day is probably over. Now for the long night. Have a great day, #koha.
19:33 pablito     ok hehe
19:33 pablito     have a good night
19:33 pablito     :-)
19:33 pablito     cait: me too
19:33 pablito     :-)
19:34 cait        here for a bit :)
19:34 pablito     I've been getting this error that's a bit frustrating, can you help a little?
19:34 pablito     This is the error I get in the log and via email.  The file stslib.conf does exist, but the error
19:34 pablito     /etc/cron.daily/koha-common:
19:34 pablito     tar: etc/apache2/sites-available/stslib.conf: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
19:34 pablito     tar: etc/apache2/sites-enabled/stslib.conf: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
19:34 pablito     tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
19:35 cait        hm
19:35 cait        sorry, not sure what that could be
19:36 cait        the instance stslib exiss?
19:36 pablito     I have a feeling it has to do with the automatic backup script
19:36 pablito     yes, stslib.conf exists
19:36 pablito     I wonder if it has to do with not having the "/" before the etc
19:40 cait        hm not sure
19:40 cait        might be osmething witht he path or permissions... i ma not very good on the sysadmin side of things
22:01 eythian     hi
22:01 bag         hey there eythian
22:02 eythian     howdy bag
23:43 eythian     I can't seem to edit sysprefs in 3.16.2. This is weird and concerning
23:44 eythian     it behaves like I have ctrl pressed or something, so it just goes all strange.
23:49 eythian     ah, it's some customisation we have
23:49 eythian     bizarre