Time  Nick         Message
23:52 tcohen       and we can have regional hackfests
23:52 * tcohen     hopes some local devs might get convinced to join the community
23:50 wizzyrea     so we can just hackfest all the time
23:50 wizzyrea     what we need, is for libraries to pay us to have hackfests.
23:46 tcohen       rangi: we need 4 hackfests a year
23:33 rangi        :)
23:33 tcohen       ah, you always manage to convince me heh
23:33 rangi        i cant imagine its beyond repair
23:33 rangi        maybe me, you, joubu and paul can fix that in the hackfest
23:32 tcohen       3.18 feature, UNIMARC support un-official
23:32 rangi        thats the problem we have, lack of unimarc testers ;(
23:31 rangi        not enough to test the patches
23:31 tcohen       unimarc people must hate us
23:31 tcohen       i definitely cannot save a catalogued biblio record
23:30 tcohen       oh dear
23:29 papa         hi there!
23:28 eythian      I have no particular opinions on systemd
23:27 tcohen       https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZId5j2jREQ/U-vlysklvCI/AAAAAAAACrA/B4JggkVJi38/w426-h284/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif
23:27 * tcohen     doesn't like systemd
23:25 eythian      I don't see why not :)
23:25 tcohen       eythian: should koha-common depend on systemd too? :-P
23:24 tcohen       heh (fsck)
23:22 eythian      hi papa
23:22 tcohen       install all unimarc sample data, try to catalog, creating an authority record, boom
23:20 eythian      It's probably MARC's fault.
23:17 tcohen       koha+unimarc is broken
23:17 tcohen       damn
23:17 wahanui      no.
23:17 tcohen       sample unimarc?
23:12 wahanui      OK, eythian.
23:12 eythian      wahanui: sample unimarc is <reply>no.
23:03 tcohen       sample unimarc?
22:16 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
22:16 eythian      @later tell magnuse a goodly bit of plack stuff has been done, mostly bugfixes. They should be trickling through, but I haven't checked the state of them for a while.
22:16 huginn       eythian: downloading the Perl source
22:16 eythian      @later magnuse a goodly bit of plack stuff has been done, mostly bugfixes. They should be trickling through, but I haven't checked the state of them for a while.
22:15 eythian      hi
21:59 rangi        heya tcohen
21:58 wahanui      hello, tcohen
21:58 tcohen       hi
21:51 wizzyrea     hehe that's pretty awesome.
21:51 rangi        someone sneaky put html tags in their dns record ;)
21:50 rangi        http://who.is/dns/jamiehankins.co.uk   <-- why you should escape all html
21:46 cait         bye all :)
21:45 wnickc       bye all!
21:44 wnickc       :)
21:43 cait         oh
21:43 wnickc       also, go to sleep cait
21:43 wnickc       indeed
21:43 wnickc       it's okay, I was far far less involved then
21:43 cait         meet again then? :)
21:43 cait         i was like, oh. reno.
21:43 cait         i said it... and then..
21:42 wnickc       we did meet at kohacon 13 cait
21:41 cait         wnickc: would be nice to meet you :)
21:41 rangi        :)
21:39 wizzyrea     heh.
21:38 wnickc       When I got my reimbursement check for NAKUG travel it actually said 'Kohacon 14'  I breifly considered if that was a good enough basis for buying tickets to argentina and assuming it was preapproved
21:37 rangi        get the kohacon audience to wave or something :)
21:36 rangi        be kinda neat to do a quick crossover or something tho
21:36 rangi        yeah :)
21:36 wnickc       I don't think we are going to be that exciting
21:35 rangi        ahh right
21:35 wnickc       I am not actually sure of platform, NEKLS was offering their conferencing platform I believe
21:34 rangi        we could put the irc meeting up on the big screen hehe
21:34 rangi        is better than the 6am nz time it was :)
21:33 rangi        2pm 4pm and 5pm argentina time
21:33 rangi        it's not really aimed at me, and it works better
21:33 rangi        s'ok
21:33 wnickc       sorry rangi
21:33 wnickc       d'oh, that was me not thinking
21:32 rangi        interesting the meeting times for the na kug are all during kohacon, i better switch the timezone to argentina so i can see what times they are there
21:32 wnickc       bye cait
21:31 cait         have a nice evening!
21:31 cait         :)
21:31 wnickc       30 minutes from now when I am home will be even better :)
21:30 cait         wnickc: that's a much better time
21:30 wnickc       17:28 cait
21:27 cait         23:27 here
21:27 cait         soon :)
21:27 wizzyrea     cait: it's not that late yet - but if you are tired, I'm happy to stand in for eythian and tell you "go to bed"
21:26 cait         what time is it at your place wnickc?
21:26 cait         wnickc: :)
21:25 wnickc       Seems a reasonable time of day to be awake on my side of tghe globe
21:23 cait         noone is telling me to go to sleep, that's irritating:)
21:23 cait         where is eythian btw?
21:23 cait         heh
21:22 wizzyrea     we won't blame the finns for him either.
21:21 cait         he seems also part finnihs
21:21 wizzyrea     you don't have to claim him.
21:21 wizzyrea     he's not wonderful, happens to originally be from Germany
21:20 wizzyrea     ^
21:17 ibeardslee   no, you are wonderful
21:17 cait         i am still trying to figure out if i should be offended or not :)
21:17 ibeardslee   ^^
21:17 wizzyrea     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom < cait
21:17 cait         ibeardslee: huh?
21:16 wizzyrea     ew no one wants to sound like that guy he's a not-nice-person
21:15 * ashimema   heads off for sleep
21:15 ashimema     morning rangi
21:14 ashimema     -why are pirates called pirate... 'cause they arrrrr!
21:14 ibeardslee   At the risk of offending any of the good germans about, bonus points for NZers speaking like a fat german ;)
21:09 wizzyrea     I think you mean "yarrr"
20:56 wnickc       That was a nice public service announcement
20:50 b-what       YAAYYY
20:50 b-what       International Talk Like a Pirate Day 2014
20:50 b-what       Friday, September 19
20:47 cait         morning rangi
20:46 rangi        morning
20:12 SirDekar     have anyone of you installed koha on debian 7.1?
20:12 SirDekar     hi everyone
19:13 ashimema     all db access to happen only in .pm's (as is currently the case)..
19:13 ashimema     It's starting to look like we're getting twoard a decision..
19:13 * cait       gave up on it right now... have to work on distance study asignments again :(
19:12 * ashimema   goes off to catch up on that thread.. 'tis fast moving at the moment
19:10 cait         awesome
19:10 ribasushi    cait: ^^
19:10 cait         :)
19:10 ribasushi    yes, also the reason I am here
19:10 ashimema     Well, it's great to have a new lurker.. especially one who understands dbic ;)
19:10 cait         i think someone may have pointed you to our mailing list discussion already?
19:10 cait         ribasushi: great to see you around :)
19:09 ribasushi    shoulders of giants and all that
19:09 ribasushi    I wrote some more recent parts of it, not my original idea ;)
19:09 ashimema     ;)
19:09 ashimema     as above
19:09 ashimema     awesome.. that's assuming you are indeed the rubasushi i'm thinking of ;)
19:09 jcamins      ribasushi: you wrote DBIC, didn't you?
19:08 ribasushi    ashimema: no you have not, I am going to lurk around answering deep backend questions from time to time ;)
19:02 ashimema     ribasushi.. that's a name i've not seen here before?
18:15 bag          well oleonard the index files are being writen to every ten minutes
18:04 bag          one sec
18:04 bag          maybe it's not called .idx
18:03 bag          yup that's not it
18:03 barton       ... that file is small, and old.
18:02 barton       bag: -rw-r--r-- 1 koha koha 1125 Jun 13  2013 /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc/default.idx
17:58 bag          HA no/know
17:57 bag          barton: larryb will no the spot - he's in the other channel
17:57 bag          you can check the directory of the index in the zebra-bilbio.cfg (iirc)
17:57 barton       -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1125 Aug 27 20:20 /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx
17:57 barton       -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1070 Apr 17 15:04 /usr/share/idzebra-2.0/tab/default.idx
17:57 barton       -rw-r--r-- 1 root root     649 Apr 17 15:04 /usr/share/idzebra-2.0/tab/icu.idx
17:56 bag          yeah I think there should be a 3 files iirc
17:56 barton       bag: when you say '.idx' -- is that /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx?
17:53 barton       wahanui++
17:53 wahanui      I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
17:53 bag          NateC?
17:53 bag          barton: I'd also check the permissions on the .idx and maybe space?
17:53 oleonard     It should be noted that as far as we know this problem has only been happening since our server required a restart on Friday 9/12
17:52 bag          can you see what the last write to the .idx file is?
17:52 bag          hmm...  but it's not "changing" the idx file?
17:52 barton       ... which is *not* to say that rebuild_zebra.pl is not running -- it's touching the records in zebraqueue.
17:51 barton       I've got records that are indexing correctly in rebuild_zebra.pl when I run it by hand, but not when it's run through cron.
17:51 bag          oleonard++
17:51 bag          excellent
17:50 barton       bag -- oloenard's handed me a stumper.
17:50 barton       hey bag!
17:50 huginn       bag: The operation succeeded.
17:50 bag          @later tell magnuse HI
17:49 bag          morning
17:49 barton       oleonard -- no dice on fridolin's suggestion, that only applies to newer versions of rebuild_zebra.pl.
17:47 huginn       barton: The operation succeeded.
17:47 barton       @later tell fridolin I just checked acpl's rebuild_zebra.pl -- it's an older version that doesn't use flock(), so it doesn't have the  --wait-for-lock option.
16:51 cait         :)
16:50 ribasushi    o/
16:50 cait         hi ribasushi
16:40 gaetan_B     bye !
16:33 * ribasushi  => extra lurker
16:31 tcohen       bye #koha
16:00 barton       fridolin++
15:58 fridolin     sorry gat go
15:58 fridolin     barton: have a look at --wait-for-lock option of rebuild_zebra.pl
15:52 barton       ... I'm running out of ideas about what could possibly vary between calling rebuild_zebra.pl via cron vs. bash.
15:50 barton       I also checked rebuild_zebra.pl to see if there were executables called or environment variables read. There is a reference to 'chdir $ENV{HOME} if (!(-r '.'));' -- but I'm pretty sure that $HOME is available from cron.
15:47 barton       no love with the verbose output from rebuild_zebra.pl ... the output is identical, except for the number of records processed (which is to be expected, because stuff is added to the zebra queue)
15:23 barton       I just added the 'verbose' flag to the crontab version... that might tell me *something*.
15:19 oleonard     I and my catalogers would be very grateful for any help you might offer barton
15:17 barton       running a full zebra re-index will also make the bibs searchable.
15:17 reiveune     bye
15:17 barton       we're using DOM for both bib and auth records.
15:16 barton       when I re-queue the bibs and run it by hand, the title search works.
15:15 barton       When run in cron, the 'done' flag *is* being set, but when I do a title search, I'm not finding anything.
15:14 barton       runs fine from bash, logged in as 'koha'.
15:13 barton       /usr/bin/flock -n /tmp/noauth.lockfile perl /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -x -b -z
15:13 barton       I copied the following command from the crontab:
15:12 barton       I have a *very* mysterious issue with Zebra: Items in the zebra-queue are correctly indexed when when fast indexing is run from the command line, but the bibs are not searchable when fast-indexing runs through cron.
15:10 oleonard     Seems like it's suited to, for example, the LOC shelving location category. Is anyone using it that way?
15:09 oleonard     I'm curious if anyone has any good examples of using Authorized values' branch limitation
15:08 barton       sweet.
14:54 oleonard     \o/
14:53 tcohen       getting closer http://snag.gy/U62aG.jpg
14:24 pastebot     "duxbuz" at pasted "/etc/koha/koha-sites.conf" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/215
13:45 cait         hi oleonard :)
13:45 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:34 fALSO        but it isnt sending any email
13:34 fALSO        I upgraded a Koha to "debian" packages... removed all the previous crons, it created a general cron in /etc/cron.d
13:33 fALSO        Anyone knows how to "debug" the Koha mail sending "part" ?
13:33 kmlussier    fALSO: Hello
13:32 fALSO        Hi there!
13:12 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12953: FIX NewOrder test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81b9d8b8aac5c67d01dbac64a1dfa9de880e021d> / Bug 8868: Follow-up: Update boostrap documentation page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c1c5c04ceafb411dde1426967cb969a3969f80a> / Bug 8868: ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45f
13:11 duxbuz       its doesnt resolve anyway, but the hostname on its own again resolves back to apache site
13:10 duxbuz       although i have tried hostname but i may have this setup wrong
13:09 duxbuz       ok. yes i am using ip address
13:06 tcohen       it is possible that the default matches
13:05 tcohen       if you are using
13:05 tcohen       so, the URL you use on the browser to access Koha, will make the difference
13:05 tcohen       koha sites get configured using name-based virtual hosts
13:04 duxbuz       its not too much bother if i do it but i presume there is a way to make it work without removing the other site
13:03 duxbuz       ye i was wondering if i could avoid that
13:01 tcohen       duxbuz: probably you need a2dissite 000-default.conf
13:00 * magnuse    gotta run
12:56 tcohen       duxbuz: on debian/ubuntu?
12:53 duxbuz       thedefault apache website seems to be the only site i can connect to after following the walkthrough guide. do i need to set up virtual sites or something
12:33 tcohen       morning!
12:26 tcohen       morning!
12:20 cait         magnus_lunch: not that i know of :)
12:12 magnus_lunch on the "Add patron attribute type"-page: "Check to make this attribute staff_searchable in the staff patron search." any particular reason for the underscore?
11:59 francharb    good morning
10:50 duxbuz       do i need to set up virtual sites or something
10:49 duxbuz       thedefault apache website  seems to be the only site i can connect to after following the walkthrough guide
10:39 rana         i had tried with authod and title but nothing happening
10:35 magnuse      i think the search from the barcode box covers things like title, author
10:35 magnuse      not sure which number you are thinking of
10:35 magnuse      where is the "accesation  no" stored?
10:34 rana         we dont have bar code scanner in our library so how do i issue book with circulation option in koha
10:33 rana         accesation  no
10:33 magnuse      rana: what do you mean by "control no"?
10:32 rana         but the problem remain same
10:32 rana         i have already eneble itmBarcodefallbacksearch
10:32 rana         i cant checkout book with control no
10:31 rana         that function is not working
10:31 magnuse      rana: not sure what you mean by that?
10:00 rana         can i issue book with contol no?
09:58 magnuse      http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/administration.html#itemBarcodeFallbackSearch
09:58 magnuse      it should work then
09:58 rana         koha
09:58 magnuse      there is a syspref  itemBarcodeFallbackSearch in newer versions which lets you do a search from the barcode box on the checkout page
09:57 magnuse      rana: which version are you using?
09:55 rana         how could i issue book without barcode
09:55 rana         we dont have any barcode system in our library
09:55 rana         i have problem with koha circullation
09:55 rana         hello
09:43 quocuy       Hello
09:38 quocuy       anyone is here?
09:38 quocuy       hi all
08:57 magnuse      :-)
08:51 ashimema     thanks for just lightening my day magnuse ;)
08:37 magnuse      lol http://damnyouautosuggest.tumblr.com/
07:49 dux          i would like to know if there is a way to regenerate it
07:49 dux          i deleted it, for some reason i should have renamed it, but i deleted it tut
07:48 dux          hi anyone know if i can recreate the library.conf file
07:48 * cait       waves
07:39 gaetan_B     hello
07:25 Viktor       magnuse: Thanks! Will try that.
07:21 magnuse      Accept-Language, i think?
07:20 magnuse      Viktor: you might try to send a language header, then
07:10 Viktor       Hello Joubu
07:09 Viktor       magnuse: It seems to default to english and we want it in sv-se. But it might not be an issue after all since people will use a browser to click through to the page and then get the correct translation. It's just the server that sees it in english.
07:09 Joubu        hello #koha
07:07 magnuse      eythian still around? i wanted to ask about the state of the plack work...
07:07 magnuse      Viktor: that might be doable, if the default is not what you want
07:05 fridolin     Bonjour Viktor
07:01 Viktor       Hi fridolin
07:01 Viktor       Bonjour alex_a
07:01 fridolin     hie all
06:59 Viktor       magnuse: But the our federated search server doesn't send any language codes yet. So I guess we might have to make the script send some http headers with language code(?)
06:58 magnuse      kewl
06:58 Viktor       magnuse: It works fine in all browsers now that I know of.
06:58 alex_a       bonjour
06:58 magnuse      there has been some changes in that area
06:57 magnuse      not sure if that has changed?
06:57 magnuse      it used to respect the language settings in your browser
06:57 Viktor       I have a feeling that we had a bug with this a while back (specifically in IE) and we're building a Koha connector for our federated search.
06:56 Viktor       Hm. Code says:  # use cookie setting for language, bug default to syspref if it's not set
06:54 Viktor       Guys - I get the right translation in opac even when clearing cookies. Does it pick up some http headers from the browsers default language?
06:51 Viktor       Hej magnuse :)
06:50 magnuse      tjänare Viktor
06:39 wahanui      bidet, reiveune
06:39 reiveune     hello
06:20 cait         hmpf
06:19 eythian      some additional paperwork...
06:18 magnuse      maybe some very german fun, with authentication and health and safety and everything... ;-)
06:14 cait         heh
06:14 magnuse      now we are talking serious fun!
06:12 cait         tonight i am probably going ot have fon with challenge response authentication
06:11 cait         lol
06:11 eythian      * cait is implementing an lfsr into koha
06:09 magnuse      gah! ;-)
06:09 cait         first, sadly not the second
06:09 magnuse      i was hoping it was a cool new feature for koha...
06:09 magnuse      ah distance studies?
06:09 eythian      ah right
06:09 cait         now waiting for the feedback
06:09 cait         eythian: i sent something in last night
06:08 magnuse      Linear feedback shift register?
06:08 cait         it has to do with shuffling lots of 0 1 around
06:08 eythian      cait: had you dreamt about it, you would have come to a solution :)
06:08 cait         magnuse: trust me... you don't want to know
06:08 magnuse      lfsr?
06:08 magnuse      logmulching++
06:08 cait         and i didn't dream about lfsr...
06:08 cait         oh lots of patches pushed :)
06:07 eythian      yeah, we're wanting to pull data into our log mulching system
06:06 magnuse      ooh, syslog
06:05 magnuse      true
06:02 cait         true
06:02 cait         :)
06:01 eythian      German. German has weird bits.
06:00 cait         is htat duolingo or german for the werid bits? :)
06:00 eythian      It's got fewer weird bits than German.
05:59 eythian      well, they added dutch just recently, so I've been going through those fairly quickly.
05:59 cait         but if you want... the game is on ;)
05:59 eythian      that's a bit ridiculous, I have to say ;)
05:58 cait         you are still talking to the woman with a 136 day streak
05:58 eythian      heh
05:58 cait         seriously?
05:58 cait         duolingo battle?
05:58 eythian      I'm beating you in duolinguo for the week so far!
05:58 cait         hi magnuse and eythian
05:58 eythian      hi cait
05:56 * magnuse    waves
05:34 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:34 eythian      @later tell cait I'm beating you in duolinguo for the week so far!
05:01 dcook        \o/
05:00 eythian      hmm yeah. That's OK in this case, as people are always logged in.
04:58 dcook        Which I've always found weird because it'll change search behaviour based on whether or not you're logged in :S
04:57 dcook        "SearchMyLibraryFirst"
04:57 dcook        Oh wait..
04:57 dcook        I think we have a customization that does that, so I don't think so?
04:50 eythian      is there a thing in Koha to by-default search a particular branch only?
03:19 eythian      later
03:19 tcohen       night #koha
03:07 tcohen       eythian: thanks
03:06 tcohen       heh
02:13 eythian      tcohen: done!
01:30 wizzyrea     http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/2031542/zoidberg-scuttle-o.gif ttyl
01:26 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4927 - OPAC advanced search has two call number entries; remove one? <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a414f413c82c71ce6d14aa1f416ec6fdf0300f13>
01:25 wizzyrea     http://iambrony.dget.cc/mlp/gif/tumblr_mgdva0CXnJ1rtzl8mo9_r3_1280.gif
01:19 tcohen       let's rock
01:16 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12609: Add some unit tests for C4::Ratings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2b0454ed43622302aac49b6dae7f3388639269e> / Bug 12609 - Replace use of DBI in C4::Ratings with DBIx::Class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb78928bef7185ead7156acd1ffc3fb278db2985> / Bug 12890 - Improve title and breadcrumbs when editing saved SQL report <http://git.koha-community.
01:06 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12697 - Surplus closing in OPAC advanced search (bootstrap) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9351cde90f4be04c98a5760e203ba7db40061dfb> / Bug 12521 - Change layout a bit of the opac advanced search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77e8cf024d4da039356db1e7e1c318d2bf4a77c2> / Bug 12882 - Translations: Resolve ambiguity for word "checked" in Z39.50 server admin
00:36 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12728: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33d7a28afa927ae190f819ffc98b578dcef4f296> / Bug 12728: [QA Follow-up] Add StatisticsFields to sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6da517127aeb4c89c204e3a672831e0069ed4ba> / Bug 12728: Add StatisticsFields to sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d48
00:29 tcohen       it must be i missed to take the pill
00:29 tcohen       i recall I marked some patches as pushed to master
00:29 rangi        lunch bbiab
00:28 rangi        nope
00:28 tcohen       have we recovered bz from a backup recently or something like that?
00:28 tcohen       i agree, we need someone to spend some time designing it
00:27 rangi        and make whatever it is, not marc specific
00:26 rangi        if we are going to break everything (which merging will do) we should think about actually just making a new table, and getting rid of both of them
00:25 rangi        because we dont need about 98% of the columns in them
00:24 rangi        i think merging them is the wrong idea
00:24 tcohen       or, would it hurt your work if that happened?
00:24 tcohen       :-D
00:23 tcohen       do u plan to merge biblio<->biblioitems in the meantime?
00:23 eythian      I'd really like to use a proper queueing system, but it's probably a bit much work to add in.
00:23 eythian      tcohen: yeah, probably something like that
00:16 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11577: Update DBIx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d15cecacedd58abdafa0b0276a3002af7b266090>
00:11 tcohen_      maybe zebraqueue -> index_queue its in place
00:10 eythian      I'll probably make it synchronous with a backup queue
00:10 eythian      but either/or
00:10 eythian      tcohen_: I haven't implemented much of anything on that front yet
00:09 rangi        it can work both ways
00:08 tcohen_      or is it synchronous?
00:07 tcohen_      eythian: does the ES implementation need a indexing queue?