Time  Nick          Message
19:55 WNickC        does anyone know if there is a list of which notices can be customised by branch and which cannot?
19:55 WNickC        Hi all
18:24 abcgh         PLS CAN ANYBODY HELP
18:15 abcgh         SOS HELP PLEASE
18:12 abcgh         ANY HELP ON THE ABOVE
18:12 abcgh         PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 KOHA_CONF=blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/00-checkdatabase-version.t ........ ok    t/00-deprecated.t ................... ok    t/00-load.t ......................... 2/? Subroutine main::GetContract redefined at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Test/More.pm line 805 Too late to run INIT block at /home/koha/Downloads/koha-3.16.03/blib/PERL_MODULE_D
18:12 abcgh         PLEASE CAN ANYBODY HEKP ME ON THIS
18:12 abcgh         SOS
18:01 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
15:12 tcohen        i'm out of town today and the rest of the weekend
15:12 tcohen        Joubu: i'll give those problems with patron import a ride next week
15:05 fridolin      bye
15:00 reiveune      bye
14:51 tcohen        hi cait
14:40 wahanui       yes, cait?
14:40 cait          wahanui?
14:40 kivilahtio    i think so
14:40 cait          yeah, he will outsmart us all soon
14:40 kivilahtio    wahanui is getting smarter by the day
14:40 kivilahtio    whanui is getting smarter by the day
14:40 cait          lol
14:40 wahanui       I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION
14:40 cait          shh wahanui
14:40 wahanui       Can we get some hard data on that?
14:40 kivilahtio    cait:  looks like it
14:39 cait          might need a pref then, we have one for calculating due dates
14:39 kivilahtio    cait: not completely different, but we get extra day added for each holiday, I think it makes no difference really
14:39 cait          what does kyle do? skip to the next possible opening day?
14:39 cait          ah
14:39 kivilahtio    cait: our feature is completely different, we just skip holidays, so i just got an item waiting for me, then weekends are holidaytime and with 6 day time to pick waiting holds, my expiration is bumbed up by two weekends
14:35 kivilahtio    rhanks
14:35 kivilahtio    we do
14:35 cait          i will keep my figners crossed for you :)
14:35 cait          i think you have quite a few customizations still
14:34 kivilahtio    if I remember, but prolly a shitstorm will hit us after the migration :)
14:34 cait          i will put a seealso
14:34 cait          cool
14:34 cait          there has also been a patch pushed recently for formatting the dates in the notices according to the pref
14:34 kivilahtio    cait: I can provide a followup after we have migrated to 3.16.3
14:34 cait          if you coudl take a look that would be great, i think it might be missing some aspects about showing the pickup date
14:34 kivilahtio    cait: Too bad I need to start working on other issues and worry about that later
14:33 kivilahtio    cait: I think Kyle's patch is as good as ours
14:33 cait          i remember because i tested it
14:33 cait          kyle's path took a while to get in
14:33 kivilahtio    cait: had I known, paxed made this patch months ago and now it broke (it has kinda always been broken) when migratiing to 3.16.3
14:32 cait          i am all for displaying it, but I am not sure if you ahd kyle's patch already
14:32 cait          initial commitmonster? :D
14:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Expire holds waiting only on days the library is open
14:31 cait          bug 8735
14:30 cait          i am looking for the holds/holidays one
14:30 cait          if you look atht eholds bug, it has a keyword, try searching for that
14:30 kivilahtio    cait:  how do I make that candidate search?
14:29 kivilahtio    cait: but there might be more fixes that need doing
14:29 cait          ok :)
14:29 kivilahtio    cait: already got that
14:29 cait          if you really want to update - like a follow up for ajax so the holds dispaly correctly
14:29 cait          there are some that you might want to pick
14:28 kivilahtio    we can upgrade again
14:28 cait          or look at the bugs in bugzilla with candidate 3.16.4 as keyword
14:28 kivilahtio    we wont
14:28 cait          i think i'd wait for 3.16.4
14:28 kivilahtio    cat this weekend.
14:28 cait          it might be duplicate
14:28 cait          i think there is a bug for that
14:28 cait          hm
14:28 kivilahtio    cait: we are finally upgrading our production to 3.16.3
14:28 huginn        04Bug 12353: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices.
14:28 kivilahtio    cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12353
14:25 cait          kivilahtio: what are you up to? :)
14:25 cait          we don't have a koha:reserves yet, do we?
14:25 cait          i wonder
14:25 cait          nice
14:21 tcohen        or even t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves_specific_sub.t
14:21 tcohen        if you're focusing on a specific sub from Koha::Reserves and are writing several tests, use a subtest definition
14:20 tcohen        (i don't)
14:20 tcohen        some prefer t/db_dependent/Koha_Reserves.t
14:19 cait          sounds good to me
14:19 tcohen        id put that on t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves.t
14:19 tcohen        there's no consensus
14:19 cait          not sure kivilahtio, tcohen?
14:03 kivilahtio    they are db_dependent tests :)
14:02 kivilahtio    mainly Koha::Reserves.pm ?
14:02 kivilahtio    where do I put unit test for the new Koha:: namespace?
13:48 wahanui       salut, tcohen
13:48 tcohen        hi
13:09 cait          :(
13:09 cait          ah, no oleonard
11:39 agbolo        anybody available
11:33 agbolo        pls help
11:32 agbolo        anybody home?
11:27 agbolo        must i install all the prerequisites been reported as warning  messages?
11:26 agbolo        please wbat does it mean?
11:25 agbolo        _koha DOC_DIR=/usr/local/info perl Makefile.PL  If installing on a Win32 platform, be sure to use: 'dmake -x MAXLINELENGTH=300000'  Warning: prerequisite AnyEvent::HTTP 2.13 not found. Warning: prerequisite Archive::Extract 0.60 not found. We have 0.34. Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Data::Paginator 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Gravatar::URL 1.03 not found. We have 1.02. Warning: prerequisi
11:25 agbolo        i did a make and i had these warning messages
11:24 agbolo        i am blocked
11:24 agbolo        hello guyz
10:51 pastebot      "nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205
10:51 pastebot      "nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204
10:48 cait          could it be permissions or something like that?
10:48 cait          hm
10:48 ashimema      I'm baffleds
10:48 ashimema      but it never seems to get executed..
10:48 ashimema      I thought adding a /etc/cron.d/koha-instance file with a bunch of jobs would do the trick..
10:47 ashimema      :(
10:47 ashimema      I'm getting confused..
10:47 cait          not specific to one instance :(
10:47 ashimema      Anyone added cronjobs to a package install?
09:03 cait          hi ashimema
09:03 cait          um
09:03 cait          hi cait
09:01 ashimema      hey cait
08:32 * cait        waves
07:19 dcook         Have a good Friday/weekend all
07:19 dcook         All right. Leaving!
07:16 * dcook       really needs to get better at leaving the office on time, especially on Fridays...
07:16 dcook         greetings France folk :)
07:15 gaetan_B      hello
07:13 Joubu         Good morning
07:00 fridolin      breakfast ;) a good one
06:55 ashimema      anywho.. breakfast time
06:55 ashimema      Think I'll grab ColinC today for a chat.. We seem to use dbic in a really odd way in koha.
06:54 ashimema      I've got totally lost on the dbic debate now..
06:54 fridolin      hie all
06:52 wahanui       hola, alex_a
06:52 alex_a        bonjour
06:48 dcook         Muahaha
06:46 dcook         Hmm, I can do this..
06:43 dcook         Have to love when you're trying to match backgrounds but your reference site has a different hierarchy of containers..
06:43 reiveune      \o/ cait
06:43 cait          b
06:43 cait          bbia
06:43 cait          hi reiveune
06:36 reiveune      salut dcook
06:35 dcook         salut reiveune
06:35 wahanui       salut, reiveune
06:35 reiveune      hello
06:35 dcook         I think that's a great idea
06:35 dcook         Oooo it would!
06:35 cait          that would make your initials doc than, right? :)
06:35 dcook         :P
06:35 dcook         Perhaps I should change my middle name to Opinionated
06:34 dcook         Mmm, I sure write a lot.
06:32 ashimema      just reading your dbic email dcook.
06:32 dcook         morning ashimema
06:32 dcook         later eythian
06:32 dcook         Well, SQL in Perl..
06:31 dcook         cait: I did it with SQL as well :)
06:30 cait          morning ashimema
06:30 cait          dcook: i am doing it with sql probably :)
06:30 ashimema      morning all
06:27 eythian       later
06:27 eythian       now I have to go get a bus
06:27 dcook         \o/
06:26 eythian       I had trouble specifying that in the build-depends, but have it sorted now.
06:26 eythian       dcook: I'm just making a newer version of test::simple a dependency
06:25 * dcook       was thinking about the whole subtest issue recently...
06:25 dcook         Oh nose
06:25 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
06:25 eythian       @later tell tcohen I've fixed the Test::Simple thing, but now I have this: http://paste.koha-community.org/203 -- I'll hold you responsible even though it's probably not your fault :D
06:22 dcook         :(
06:22 * indradg     is still so sleepy that drinking the first cup of tea looks like a tough chore! :-(
06:21 dcook         Of course, now that all of our libraries have updated frameworks, the impetus for building a more sustainable mechanism has flagged a bit...
06:21 indradg       hi dcook
06:21 dcook         yo indradg
06:21 dcook         So I could update the "repeatable" attribute for existing rows
06:20 dcook         With a... "on duplicate" as well
06:20 dcook         I used the XML that bgkriegel uploaded. Loaded the XML into a hash, iterated through the frameworks, and did a insert ignore
06:20 dcook         Exactly
06:19 cait          and you don't notice when a field/subfield is missing in koha
06:18 dcook         Mmm, righto!
06:18 cait          because cataloguing is done in the union catalog software mostly
06:18 dcook         Especially as the consequences of having old frameworks isn't always readily apparent to libraries
06:18 cait          yeah it is for us even more
06:18 cait          :)
06:18 dcook         I think it's really important to have up-to-date frameworks :)
06:18 dcook         Well, I think so :p
06:18 cait          really?
06:18 cait          lol
06:18 dcook         That's awesome
06:18 cait          rda fields etc
06:18 dcook         \o/
06:17 cait          i started to update the marc frameowrks in our installations...
06:17 cait          not sure what i will be working on today
06:17 cait          nice :)
06:17 dcook         ;)
06:17 dcook         I'm working on a buddhist library right now, so I'm quite relaxed...
06:16 dcook         Friday!
06:15 cait          and it's friday :)
06:15 cait          probably a timezone thing
06:15 dcook         Nothing new there since this morning..
06:15 * dcook       glances at koha-devel
06:15 dcook         I think there are private practices back home as well, at least when it comes to psych I think
06:15 wahanui       Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
06:15 dcook         Interesting
06:14 cait          there are doctors who only take patients with private insurance tho
06:14 dcook         Yeah, that's how I grew up too :)
06:14 cait          it's not something i have thought about a lot - if you are sick you go to the ER or to a doctor
06:14 dcook         Hmm, sounds similar to Canada then
06:14 cait          but i have never run into one knowingly
06:13 cait          hm i could imagine there are for some things, specialized
06:13 dcook         You can get private insurance in Canada, but I think it's mostly for things like dental and optical
06:13 dcook         Does that mean there are private hospitals as well?
06:12 cait          just a small amount for a prescription, similar to nz maybe?
06:12 cait          flashing your card and not paying when you go to a doctor
06:12 cait          but i'd say the normal case is you have public
06:11 cait          you can also get private insurance here too
06:11 dcook         I don't know too much about it. Is it all public?
06:11 dcook         hehe
06:01 cait          and glad again to live in germany with our health care system
06:01 cait          interesting discussions while i was sleeping :)
05:36 cait          sounds slightly familiar
05:36 cait          http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/97276575779/someone-in-a-timezone-where-it-is-very-early-pops
05:36 dcook         hi cait :)
05:36 dcook         ?
05:35 cait          lol
05:01 pianohacker   good night all
04:44 dcook         I guess it's a good thing my grandma isn't on FB
04:43 dcook         pianohacker: hehe
04:42 dcook         It helps when you remember to add the original style that would've cascaded down to fix the problem you can't seem to fix..
04:42 dcook         D'oh
04:41 pianohacker   I feel so terrible for laughing at the one about the girl going to college
04:40 wizzyrea      yeah it is, I'm skipping it today though
04:40 dcook         Almost beer o'clock for you folk!
04:39 wizzyrea      blargh timesheets I almost forgot
04:38 wizzyrea      http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/the-adventures-of-grandparents-on-facebook?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp#81hsz0 this is totally snerkworthy
04:37 wizzyrea      i can't take credit for that, but they are ace at their jobs.
04:37 dcook         Nice one, design team!
04:36 * wizzyrea    points to our design team
04:36 * dcook       just likes saying "media query"
04:36 dcook         I did that with another DSpace and it worked quite nicely
04:36 dcook         Mmm, nice one with the media query for the image on that fixed with one, wizzyrea
04:36 wizzyrea      ah well yeah that'll be different
04:36 dcook         I'm just having issues with DSpace's bootstrap template now..
04:36 dcook         Actually, it does work all right in Koha
04:35 wizzyrea      http://hewitson.mykoha.co.nz
04:35 wizzyrea      hm I think so
04:35 pianohacker   glad to hear. That code can be a bit frustrating to work with due to the way overdrive manages their API, but it seems to be of value to a lot of people
04:35 dcook         Has anyone tried to force their bootstrap Koha to be a fixed width? :(
04:34 dcook         Now I want bubblegum..
04:34 dcook         pretty!
04:34 wizzyrea      pretty exciting
04:34 wizzyrea      you'll be happy to know that we also have a library using the overdrive integration :)
04:33 pianohacker   sweet
04:33 wizzyrea      yarp
04:33 pianohacker   ooh very nice. bootstrap?
04:33 wizzyrea      it's piiink
04:33 wizzyrea      oh, check out our new pretty koha: http://ihc.mykoha.co.nz
04:33 pianohacker   The second I have a yard there'll be tomato plants all over it
04:32 wizzyrea      that is not awesome.
04:32 wizzyrea      :(
04:32 * dcook       glares at his browser
04:32 dcook         And trying to make websites conform to bad designs is not awesome
04:32 wizzyrea      i've always liked tomatoes
04:32 dcook         Turns out fresh food really is awesome.
04:32 dcook         Same
04:32 dcook         Mmm, pianohacker, yes!
04:32 dcook         I was just about to ask if they were capsicums
04:32 pianohacker   now I could eat them by the bushel
04:32 dcook         hehe
04:32 wizzyrea      capsicums
04:32 dcook         Mmm same
04:32 * pianohacker was also converted to tomatoes by fresh tomatoes
04:32 wizzyrea      I also hated onions and peppers.
04:31 * dcook       also hated mushrooms... until he had fresh mushrooms
04:31 wizzyrea      I wasn't crazy about fries
04:31 wahanui       interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:31 pianohacker   interesting...
04:31 wizzyrea      it just wasn't a thing
04:31 dcook         So that's fair
04:31 dcook         Well, I hated cheese as a kid.
04:31 wizzyrea      I did, yes
04:31 pianohacker   in _kansas_?
04:31 * dcook       wonders if Liz might be an alien
04:31 dcook         You hated fries as a kid?
04:31 dcook         O_O
04:31 dcook         And that many people asking for money in subways spoke impeccable English and French
04:31 wizzyrea      man, I hated fries when I was a kid, but I'd be all about poutine now.
04:30 pianohacker   ^
04:30 wizzyrea      or lack thereof
04:30 dcook         I mostly remember poutine.
04:30 dcook         Street grid?
04:30 dcook         Hmm, I can't recall the traffic
04:30 dcook         There we go :)
04:30 dcook         Québeçois*
04:30 wizzyrea      I was 12 when I was there, all I remember is the quebecois thing, and BLT's, and traffic.
04:30 pianohacker   the street grid alone, dear _lord_
04:30 * dcook       would use the correct diacritics and stuff but Hexchat and keyboard shortcuts don't play nicely
04:29 dcook         Ah, but it's not. It's Quebecois.
04:29 wizzyrea      right, was gonna say about montreal - it's french.
04:29 dcook         Yeah, that's a bit of a thing sometimes
04:29 dcook         Mmm
04:29 dcook         Ontario is all right. Just the politicians have issues.
04:29 pianohacker   montreal was fun, but you can tell just how hard the french canadians are trying to prove that they're french
04:29 dcook         [off] I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. lol.
04:28 pianohacker   aaaaaanyway
04:28 pianohacker   [off] They can't exactly give one can they?
04:28 * dcook       really needs to visit NZ...
04:28 dcook         [off] Wha?
04:28 * wizzyrea    waves from NZ
04:28 pianohacker   [off] "I may be a lady but I'll get someone else's dammit"
04:28 dcook         How was Montreal?
04:28 dcook         Norway only has 5 million people. Maybe we should all go and boost their population...
04:28 pianohacker   heh. What is ontario like? My only experience of Canada as of yet is Montreal, which, well
04:27 dcook         [off] Who wouldn't? :)
04:27 * dcook       forgets sometimes that he hasn't lived in Canada regularly for a few years now
04:27 pianohacker   [off] I would legitimately give my left testicle for free uni and healthcare at this point
04:26 dcook         As for Canada, I like to think our issues are fairly superficial and located in Ontario :p
04:26 dcook         Could probably say that about Australia too :p
04:26 pianohacker   we're the sexy alluring lady/gent with deeeeep mental issues...
04:25 dcook         Free transport. I'm coming around to the idea of free PT.
04:25 dcook         Free uni and free healthcare would be great though...
04:25 dcook         I don't even watch TV!
04:25 dcook         I probably know more about American celebrities than I do Australian celebrities, and I live in Australia.
04:24 dcook         Mind you, other countries are like that too. Just not as much in the media's attention.
04:24 pianohacker   yeah...
04:24 dcook         But some of the other things are just baffling :S.
04:24 dcook         I like lots of Americans. America also has a lot of rad things in it.
04:24 dcook         Yeah, as a non-American, it's a weird position to be in
04:23 dcook         :)
04:23 pianohacker   dcook: true! dull is better than soul crushing
04:23 pianohacker   I like a lot of things about America, but there's a lot of things that have demonstrably failed as private institutions that we stubbornly hold on to
04:23 dcook         Well, I think lots of people have a miserable high school existence, so I'm fairly pleased overall
04:19 pianohacker   I think high school is dull for most?
04:18 dcook         Well, high school was dull. Would've loved advanced courses, but you can't win them all :p.
04:18 dcook         I think I was quite fortunate with the Canadian medical and educational systems
04:17 dcook         Yeah, no doubt...
04:16 pianohacker   it's a high-stakes way to learn personal finance...
04:14 dcook         Money money money :D
04:04 pianohacker   *grants
04:04 pianohacker   to my benefit, massively; I used to not even get enough federal loans to cover tuition, and now I get loans plus grant
04:02 wizzyrea      to your benefit or detriment?
04:02 dcook         That does sound bizarre
03:57 pianohacker   the _second_ you become a grad student, though, this stops happening, and your aid reflects your own income only...
03:57 * rangi       goes for beer
03:56 pianohacker   this persists until you are 25
03:56 pianohacker   but anyway yeah. As an undergrad, your parent's income is counted when you are awarded need-based financial aid (including even just _federal loans_) in a way that assumes your parents are putting a very significant amount of their earnings into your tuition
03:56 dcook         pianohacker: Glad it was worth it :)
03:55 wizzyrea      I feel fortunate to have gotten through just before it all went crazy bonkers
03:55 dcook         Yeah, I went to uni with a girl who had like... $100,000 of debt from a BA in the US :S
03:55 pianohacker   oh yeah. worth every penny to get hearing but still expensive
03:55 wizzyrea      ^
03:55 pianohacker   American tuition isn't just expensive, it's goddamn bizarre
03:55 dcook         pianohacker: Sounds expensive :(
03:55 dcook         About $2500 for a year of uni
03:55 pianohacker   the first one was great, it's what got me my implant, this one last thursday to fix a complication with that was less exciting
03:55 dcook         Quebec tuition is rather good. Not as good as a lot of Europe, but still good.
03:54 dcook         I figure if Australian tuition goes crazy, my kids can move back to Canada where it's better
03:54 dcook         pianohacker: That sucks about the surgeries :(
03:54 dcook         Most of the time was spent with them talking about their own immigration history :/
03:54 dcook         Yeah, my visit to the doctor on a Sunday was $85. They gave me a script for antibiotics and sent me away.
03:54 wizzyrea      but it's rarely much if any.
03:53 * wizzyrea    is always ready to pay whatever they ask
03:53 wizzyrea      anyway, quite a bit different to that here
03:53 wizzyrea      $500 for xrays, for example.
03:53 pianohacker   yup...
03:53 wizzyrea      which could be quite outrageous.
03:53 wizzyrea      after the fact
03:53 wizzyrea      well, then you'd get a bill for the insurance covered actual treatment
03:52 pianohacker   then you had really good insurance!
03:52 wizzyrea      into the ER, in the US
03:52 wizzyrea      walking into the US on our former insurance plan cost $100, and that's before any treatment at all.
03:52 rangi         thats why i gave the wellington free ambulance $40 today on their appeal day
03:51 eythian       (for the ambulance)
03:51 wizzyrea      spud went into the emergency room for a weird feeling after hours viral thing - $0
03:51 pianohacker   just makes me sad
03:51 eythian       it's ~$80 in Dunedin
03:51 pianohacker   *sigh* as a college student with two surgeries in the past year (for hearing stuff), this is like talking about tuition with the french
03:51 rangi         yep $5 for 3 months of meds
03:51 rangi         laurel was saying in ny it would have been $1000 for the ambulance ride alone
03:51 eythian       and then probably $5 for prescriptions :)
03:51 dcook         yay, rangi!
03:51 rangi         cost me 0$
03:51 rangi         when i got my artrial fibralation i had a hospital ride, an over night state, and cardioversion
03:50 dcook         But that's also Saskatchewan... not BC or Ontario
03:50 dcook         My family seem OK with the wait times though. They've almost always been shorter than estimated.
03:50 rangi         pharmac is good like that
03:50 dcook         I've never been sick or injured, so I have no personal experience (maybe I'm like Bruce Willis from Unbreakable)
03:50 rangi         for free
03:50 rangi         orthapaedic (hip replacements etc) are the other ones that are sometimes long
03:50 wizzyrea      for pretty cheap.
03:50 wizzyrea      you'd probably get decent drugs in the meantime though
03:50 dcook         Yeah, wait times are the thing I usually hear about in regards to public
03:49 rangi         it just hurts
03:49 rangi         well you dont die from a hernia
03:49 rangi         like 4 months or so
03:49 pianohacker   that seems like something they'd want to expedite...
03:49 rangi         hernia can be quite long
03:49 rangi         depends
03:49 pianohacker   how long is the queue generally?
03:48 rangi         and you want to jump the queue
03:48 rangi         if its elective, or non life threatening
03:48 wizzyrea      *seems* - my experience is extremely limited.
03:48 rangi         here you can go private
03:48 wizzyrea      nz seems to about split it
03:48 * wizzyrea    is used to america where a massive bill is the norm
03:47 * dcook       is used to Canada where you flash your health care card and that's it
03:47 dcook         But there was complications and now they have massive bills :S
03:47 dcook         I had a friend go in who had private cover
03:47 dcook         Private hospitals are scary though
03:47 wizzyrea      that's true.
03:47 dcook         Like you can sometimes get a private room
03:47 dcook         Mmm that too
03:46 eythian       it's possible that it allows for extra things that aren't covered by the subsidisation
03:46 dcook         Paying for public services... no reason to do it except to contribute extra to the public system
03:46 dcook         Yeah, private hospitals in theory have specialists and are theoretically faster
03:45 wizzyrea      usually doing it privately can expedite the process
03:45 pianohacker   ... why would you do that? availability of services, waiting time?
03:45 dcook         Which means that you can opt to pay for public services (the idea being that your private insurance will cover the cost)
03:45 dcook         But even in public hospitals... you can do things privately
03:45 dcook         Public hospitals are typically free, and private hospitals are definitely not free
03:44 dcook         They have public hospitals and private hospitals
03:44 dcook         I often think it's terribad
03:43 pianohacker   smooshed how?
03:43 pianohacker   that could be fantastic or just terribad
03:43 dcook         Confusing as :S
03:43 dcook         It's like... Canada and America smooshed together
03:43 dcook         Although the Australian medicare system is still weird
03:43 pianohacker   oh, that's excellent
03:43 dcook         Will look forward to being treated a bit more like a regular person.
03:42 dcook         Yeah, there's time. So it's not a huge rush.
03:42 dcook         And have Medicare :D
03:42 pianohacker   okay, so there's time, but PR is far better
03:42 dcook         But PR would mean I could stay forevaz
03:42 dcook         pianohacker: I'm on a work visa until mid 2016 atm
03:42 dcook         wizzyrea: yarp
03:42 wizzyrea      ^ 2nd that
03:42 pianohacker   yeah... what's your current situation?
03:41 dcook         Yeah, I hear that. It's pricy :/
03:41 dcook         It'll be a huge relief
03:41 dcook         Yeah, I'll be stoked to get my permanent residence. Hopefully end of this year or more likely start of next year.
03:39 pianohacker   I don't think so, between school and the travel expense
03:38 pianohacker   very glad to hear, especially the silly visa...
03:38 dcook         Are you going to Kohacon14?
03:38 dcook         Few downs but overall it's awesome :)
03:38 pianohacker   woo!
03:38 dcook         Heading to Europe in a few weeks
03:38 dcook         Things are going well on the visa front
03:38 dcook         Glad life is good
03:37 dcook         hehe
03:37 wahanui       yours is better actually
03:37 pianohacker   yours?
03:37 pianohacker   good, long long day but life is good
03:35 dcook         how's it going?
03:34 pianohacker   hi dcook
03:34 dcook         yo pianohacker
03:34 dcook         CSS media queries ftw
03:29 dcook         Don't want to run out and have to resort to warm beer though
03:28 dcook         True. I suppose I could always start re-filling the fridge when I get down to the last 12 or so
03:26 eythian       they don't have to all be there at the same time, you know.
03:26 dcook         No room for two cases though... maybe I need two fridges...
03:26 eythian       heh
03:25 dcook         Still seemed to disappear just as fast though...
03:25 dcook         eythian: I took your advice and got a case this last time :p
03:25 dcook         Mmm beer
03:25 wizzyrea      it definitely feels like it ought to be.
03:24 eythian       I feel like taking your silence as a yes.
03:24 eythian       wahanui: is it beer o'clock yet?
03:24 eythian       http://madddscience.tumblr.com/post/97215414964/steammanofthewest-the-iron-teacher-in-the
02:55 eythian       heh
02:55 wizzyrea      maybe I'll put it up in *my* room.
02:55 wizzyrea      no seriously he'd never enter his room again.
02:55 dcook         hehe
02:55 wizzyrea      I like it.
02:55 dcook         spud sounds like a reaosnable person
02:55 wizzyrea      you are evil.
02:54 eythian       http://www.crisisoninfinitemidlives.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/hobbit_gollum_poster_sdcc_2012.jpg <-- you should put that up in his bedroom
02:54 wizzyrea      or ambiguous morality
02:54 wizzyrea      it's because of his questionable motives.
02:53 wizzyrea      spud is deathly afraid of gollum
02:51 dcook         lol
02:50 wizzyrea      eythian++ that was awesome
02:50 wizzyrea      lol
02:50 rangi         heh
02:49 eythian       http://cdn.diply.com/img/1be49982-8d99-4cb3-ae74-0c0a298b06ad.jpg
02:48 cait1         k
02:48 eythian       No really, it's way early.
02:48 eythian       hi cait1. Go back to bed.
02:43 rangi         theres colin
02:43 rangi         atarau used to call gollum colin
02:43 rangi         heh
02:41 wizzyrea      (I don't even know)
02:41 wizzyrea      or as spud would call him, "the growly sister"
02:40 wizzyrea      I thought he looked familiar (that's not a joke.)
02:40 rangi         wizzyrea: the 'dead' guy in it is lurtz from lotr
02:37 wizzyrea      http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3dbbrGJSa1qf55vho1_500.gif
02:36 wizzyrea      *sobs*
02:36 eythian       yeah wizzyrea. we know exactly what you meant :D
02:35 rangi         heh
02:35 wizzyrea      or maybe you don't
02:35 wizzyrea      you know what I mean.
02:35 wizzyrea      crap.
02:35 wizzyrea      not "adult" movies, but movies for grownups.
02:35 rangi         yep
02:34 wizzyrea      which is SO cool
02:34 rangi         yeah now the have the full one, the 1st one had no talking .. most people didnt realise its the first full length film in te reo
02:34 * wizzyrea    is jealous of people who get to see adult movies in the theatre
02:33 eythian       yeah, I think I've seen a teaser.
02:33 ibeardslee    saw a shorter trailer to that when I saw The Dark Horse
02:32 rangi         now i need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8 again
02:30 wizzyrea      oh man that looks amazing
02:28 rangi         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKy7Q50tJ84  <-- cool as hell
02:18 wizzyrea      nice to see it getting some use
02:18 dcook         That's cool :)
02:18 wizzyrea      \o/
02:16 eythian       http://i.imgur.com/A4nMHmxl.jpg <-- and its user distribution
02:16 eythian       http://i.imgur.com/x0leAIb.png <-- what one of our sites looks like on a newsletter day.
02:15 wizzyrea      not like, growl notifications
02:15 wizzyrea      ^.^
02:15 wizzyrea      notification means "turn the title of the channel green"
02:14 wizzyrea      hehe naw don't worry
02:06 * dcook       should have a #dcook channel..
02:05 dcook         I'll try to monologue less, wizzyea, so I don't inundate you with notifications ;)
02:05 dcook         ^
02:03 wizzyrea      people I never talk to turning up all over the place, don't want to miss it!
02:03 * wizzyrea    turns on notifications for the koha channel
02:01 wizzyrea      doh!
01:49 oleonard      Oh well I'll have to take my answer off the air. Bye everyone, see you Monday.
01:42 oleonard      What are you working on these days wizzyrea?
01:40 wizzyrea      yeah I like overlap too, I miss the witty banter.
01:32 dcook         The weather out here is weird these days..
01:32 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (11:00 AM EST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
01:32 dcook         @wunder syd
01:32 dcook         Overlap is good :)
01:01 oleonard      I miss having at least a little bit of overlap :)
01:01 oleonard      My schedule is a little different these days so I'm usually out of IRC before any of you guys are online
00:59 oleonard      Stuff is good
00:59 wizzyrea      how's stuff?
00:59 wizzyrea      hi!
00:59 wizzyrea      :D
00:59 oleonard      Hi wizzyrea!
00:58 wizzyrea      omgooses it's an oleonard
00:56 huginn        oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 16.5°C (8:55 PM EDT on September 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
00:56 oleonard      @wunder 45701
00:55 eythian       17° is good, hopefully that's boding for a nice weekend.
00:55 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
00:55 eythian       @wunder nzwn
00:55 eythian       hi oleonard
00:53 dcook         Usually a bit more sleepy
00:53 dcook         Although not quite when they're bright-eyed
00:53 dcook         I think I usually only see the west coast Americans :p
00:52 dcook         hehe
00:51 oleonard      Yeah I never get to see the Europeans when they're bright-eyed and fresh ;)
00:50 dcook         Maybe folks are reading koha-devel like me atm
00:50 dcook         I think 4-5 hours is when the Europeans wake up. Always nice to see them :)
00:49 dcook         Another 4-5 hours though, so you'll probably be asleep
00:49 dcook         I think one of my favourite times is probably in...
00:49 dcook         But we have heaps of fun when you're not around sometimes :p
00:49 dcook         It's been fairly quiet this past week or two I think
00:49 dcook         It depends!
00:49 dcook         Haha
00:49 oleonard      Obviously the answer is: Lots :P
00:44 oleonard      I thought I'd stop by and see what kind of fun happens when I'm not usually around
00:44 dcook         How goes it?
00:44 wahanui       oleonard is not really here.  He said so.  He did!
00:44 dcook         Heya oleonard!
00:42 oleonard      Hi #koha