Time Nick Message 00:42 oleonard Hi #koha 00:44 dcook Heya oleonard! 00:44 wahanui oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 00:44 dcook How goes it? 00:44 oleonard I thought I'd stop by and see what kind of fun happens when I'm not usually around 00:49 oleonard Obviously the answer is: Lots :P 00:49 dcook Haha 00:49 dcook It depends! 00:49 dcook It's been fairly quiet this past week or two I think 00:49 dcook But we have heaps of fun when you're not around sometimes :p 00:49 dcook I think one of my favourite times is probably in... 00:49 dcook Another 4-5 hours though, so you'll probably be asleep 00:50 dcook I think 4-5 hours is when the Europeans wake up. Always nice to see them :) 00:50 dcook Maybe folks are reading koha-devel like me atm 00:51 oleonard Yeah I never get to see the Europeans when they're bright-eyed and fresh ;) 00:52 dcook hehe 00:53 dcook I think I usually only see the west coast Americans :p 00:53 dcook Although not quite when they're bright-eyed 00:53 dcook Usually a bit more sleepy 00:55 eythian hi oleonard 00:55 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 00:55 eythian 17° is good, hopefully that's boding for a nice weekend. 00:56 oleonard @wunder 45701 00:56 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 16.5°C (8:55 PM EDT on September 11, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 00:58 wizzyrea omgooses it's an oleonard 00:59 oleonard Hi wizzyrea! 00:59 wizzyrea :D 00:59 wizzyrea hi! 00:59 wizzyrea how's stuff? 00:59 oleonard Stuff is good 01:01 oleonard My schedule is a little different these days so I'm usually out of IRC before any of you guys are online 01:01 oleonard I miss having at least a little bit of overlap :) 01:32 dcook Overlap is good :) 01:32 dcook @wunder syd 01:32 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (11:00 AM EST on September 12, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 01:32 dcook The weather out here is weird these days.. 01:40 wizzyrea yeah I like overlap too, I miss the witty banter. 01:42 oleonard What are you working on these days wizzyrea? 01:49 oleonard Oh well I'll have to take my answer off the air. Bye everyone, see you Monday. 02:01 wizzyrea doh! 02:03 * wizzyrea turns on notifications for the koha channel 02:03 wizzyrea people I never talk to turning up all over the place, don't want to miss it! 02:05 dcook ^ 02:05 dcook I'll try to monologue less, wizzyea, so I don't inundate you with notifications ;) 02:06 * dcook should have a #dcook channel.. 02:14 wizzyrea hehe naw don't worry 02:15 wizzyrea notification means "turn the title of the channel green" 02:15 wizzyrea ^.^ 02:15 wizzyrea not like, growl notifications 02:16 eythian http://i.imgur.com/x0leAIb.png <-- what one of our sites looks like on a newsletter day. 02:16 eythian http://i.imgur.com/A4nMHmxl.jpg <-- and its user distribution 02:18 wizzyrea \o/ 02:18 dcook That's cool :) 02:18 wizzyrea nice to see it getting some use 02:28 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKy7Q50tJ84 <-- cool as hell 02:30 wizzyrea oh man that looks amazing 02:32 rangi now i need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8 again 02:33 ibeardslee saw a shorter trailer to that when I saw The Dark Horse 02:33 eythian yeah, I think I've seen a teaser. 02:34 * wizzyrea is jealous of people who get to see adult movies in the theatre 02:34 rangi yeah now the have the full one, the 1st one had no talking .. most people didnt realise its the first full length film in te reo 02:34 wizzyrea which is SO cool 02:35 rangi yep 02:35 wizzyrea not "adult" movies, but movies for grownups. 02:35 wizzyrea crap. 02:35 wizzyrea you know what I mean. 02:35 wizzyrea or maybe you don't 02:35 rangi heh 02:36 eythian yeah wizzyrea. we know exactly what you meant :D 02:36 wizzyrea *sobs* 02:37 wizzyrea http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3dbbrGJSa1qf55vho1_500.gif 02:40 rangi wizzyrea: the 'dead' guy in it is lurtz from lotr 02:40 wizzyrea I thought he looked familiar (that's not a joke.) 02:41 wizzyrea or as spud would call him, "the growly sister" 02:41 wizzyrea (I don't even know) 02:43 rangi heh 02:43 rangi atarau used to call gollum colin 02:43 rangi theres colin 02:48 eythian hi cait1. Go back to bed. 02:48 eythian No really, it's way early. 02:48 cait1 k 02:49 eythian http://cdn.diply.com/img/1be49982-8d99-4cb3-ae74-0c0a298b06ad.jpg 02:50 rangi heh 02:50 wizzyrea lol 02:50 wizzyrea eythian++ that was awesome 02:51 dcook lol 02:53 wizzyrea spud is deathly afraid of gollum 02:54 wizzyrea it's because of his questionable motives. 02:54 wizzyrea or ambiguous morality 02:54 eythian http://www.crisisoninfinitemidlives.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/hobbit_gollum_poster_sdcc_2012.jpg <-- you should put that up in his bedroom 02:55 wizzyrea you are evil. 02:55 dcook spud sounds like a reaosnable person 02:55 wizzyrea I like it. 02:55 dcook hehe 02:55 wizzyrea no seriously he'd never enter his room again. 02:55 wizzyrea maybe I'll put it up in *my* room. 02:55 eythian heh 03:24 eythian http://madddscience.tumblr.com/post/97215414964/steammanofthewest-the-iron-teacher-in-the 03:24 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock yet? 03:24 eythian I feel like taking your silence as a yes. 03:25 wizzyrea it definitely feels like it ought to be. 03:25 dcook Mmm beer 03:25 dcook eythian: I took your advice and got a case this last time :p 03:25 dcook Still seemed to disappear just as fast though... 03:26 eythian heh 03:26 dcook No room for two cases though... maybe I need two fridges... 03:26 eythian they don't have to all be there at the same time, you know. 03:28 dcook True. I suppose I could always start re-filling the fridge when I get down to the last 12 or so 03:29 dcook Don't want to run out and have to resort to warm beer though 03:34 dcook CSS media queries ftw 03:34 dcook yo pianohacker 03:34 pianohacker hi dcook 03:35 dcook how's it going? 03:37 pianohacker good, long long day but life is good 03:37 pianohacker yours? 03:37 wahanui yours is better actually 03:37 dcook hehe 03:38 dcook Glad life is good 03:38 dcook Things are going well on the visa front 03:38 dcook Heading to Europe in a few weeks 03:38 pianohacker woo! 03:38 dcook Few downs but overall it's awesome :) 03:38 dcook Are you going to Kohacon14? 03:38 pianohacker very glad to hear, especially the silly visa... 03:39 pianohacker I don't think so, between school and the travel expense 03:41 dcook Yeah, I'll be stoked to get my permanent residence. Hopefully end of this year or more likely start of next year. 03:41 dcook It'll be a huge relief 03:41 dcook Yeah, I hear that. It's pricy :/ 03:42 pianohacker yeah... what's your current situation? 03:42 wizzyrea ^ 2nd that 03:42 dcook wizzyrea: yarp 03:42 dcook pianohacker: I'm on a work visa until mid 2016 atm 03:42 dcook But PR would mean I could stay forevaz 03:42 pianohacker okay, so there's time, but PR is far better 03:42 dcook And have Medicare :D 03:42 dcook Yeah, there's time. So it's not a huge rush. 03:43 dcook Will look forward to being treated a bit more like a regular person. 03:43 pianohacker oh, that's excellent 03:43 dcook Although the Australian medicare system is still weird 03:43 dcook It's like... Canada and America smooshed together 03:43 dcook Confusing as :S 03:43 pianohacker that could be fantastic or just terribad 03:43 pianohacker smooshed how? 03:44 dcook I often think it's terribad 03:44 dcook They have public hospitals and private hospitals 03:45 dcook Public hospitals are typically free, and private hospitals are definitely not free 03:45 dcook But even in public hospitals... you can do things privately 03:45 dcook Which means that you can opt to pay for public services (the idea being that your private insurance will cover the cost) 03:45 pianohacker ... why would you do that? availability of services, waiting time? 03:45 wizzyrea usually doing it privately can expedite the process 03:46 dcook Yeah, private hospitals in theory have specialists and are theoretically faster 03:46 dcook Paying for public services... no reason to do it except to contribute extra to the public system 03:46 eythian it's possible that it allows for extra things that aren't covered by the subsidisation 03:47 dcook Mmm that too 03:47 dcook Like you can sometimes get a private room 03:47 wizzyrea that's true. 03:47 dcook Private hospitals are scary though 03:47 dcook I had a friend go in who had private cover 03:47 dcook But there was complications and now they have massive bills :S 03:47 * dcook is used to Canada where you flash your health care card and that's it 03:48 * wizzyrea is used to america where a massive bill is the norm 03:48 wizzyrea nz seems to about split it 03:48 rangi here you can go private 03:48 wizzyrea *seems* - my experience is extremely limited. 03:48 rangi if its elective, or non life threatening 03:48 rangi and you want to jump the queue 03:49 pianohacker how long is the queue generally? 03:49 rangi depends 03:49 rangi hernia can be quite long 03:49 pianohacker that seems like something they'd want to expedite... 03:49 rangi like 4 months or so 03:49 rangi well you dont die from a hernia 03:49 rangi it just hurts 03:50 dcook Yeah, wait times are the thing I usually hear about in regards to public 03:50 wizzyrea you'd probably get decent drugs in the meantime though 03:50 wizzyrea for pretty cheap. 03:50 rangi orthapaedic (hip replacements etc) are the other ones that are sometimes long 03:50 rangi for free 03:50 dcook I've never been sick or injured, so I have no personal experience (maybe I'm like Bruce Willis from Unbreakable) 03:50 rangi pharmac is good like that 03:50 dcook My family seem OK with the wait times though. They've almost always been shorter than estimated. 03:50 dcook But that's also Saskatchewan... not BC or Ontario 03:51 rangi when i got my artrial fibralation i had a hospital ride, an over night state, and cardioversion 03:51 rangi cost me 0$ 03:51 dcook yay, rangi! 03:51 eythian and then probably $5 for prescriptions :) 03:51 rangi laurel was saying in ny it would have been $1000 for the ambulance ride alone 03:51 rangi yep $5 for 3 months of meds 03:51 pianohacker *sigh* as a college student with two surgeries in the past year (for hearing stuff), this is like talking about tuition with the french 03:51 eythian it's ~$80 in Dunedin 03:51 pianohacker just makes me sad 03:51 wizzyrea spud went into the emergency room for a weird feeling after hours viral thing - $0 03:51 eythian (for the ambulance) 03:52 rangi thats why i gave the wellington free ambulance $40 today on their appeal day 03:52 wizzyrea walking into the US on our former insurance plan cost $100, and that's before any treatment at all. 03:52 wizzyrea into the ER, in the US 03:52 pianohacker then you had really good insurance! 03:53 wizzyrea well, then you'd get a bill for the insurance covered actual treatment 03:53 wizzyrea after the fact 03:53 wizzyrea which could be quite outrageous. 03:53 pianohacker yup... 03:53 wizzyrea $500 for xrays, for example. 03:53 wizzyrea anyway, quite a bit different to that here 03:53 * wizzyrea is always ready to pay whatever they ask 03:54 wizzyrea but it's rarely much if any. 03:54 dcook Yeah, my visit to the doctor on a Sunday was $85. They gave me a script for antibiotics and sent me away. 03:54 dcook Most of the time was spent with them talking about their own immigration history :/ 03:54 dcook pianohacker: That sucks about the surgeries :( 03:54 dcook I figure if Australian tuition goes crazy, my kids can move back to Canada where it's better 03:55 dcook Quebec tuition is rather good. Not as good as a lot of Europe, but still good. 03:55 pianohacker the first one was great, it's what got me my implant, this one last thursday to fix a complication with that was less exciting 03:55 dcook About $2500 for a year of uni 03:55 dcook pianohacker: Sounds expensive :( 03:55 pianohacker American tuition isn't just expensive, it's goddamn bizarre 03:55 wizzyrea ^ 03:55 pianohacker oh yeah. worth every penny to get hearing but still expensive 03:55 dcook Yeah, I went to uni with a girl who had like... $100,000 of debt from a BA in the US :S 03:55 wizzyrea I feel fortunate to have gotten through just before it all went crazy bonkers 03:56 dcook pianohacker: Glad it was worth it :) 03:56 pianohacker but anyway yeah. As an undergrad, your parent's income is counted when you are awarded need-based financial aid (including even just _federal loans_) in a way that assumes your parents are putting a very significant amount of their earnings into your tuition 03:56 pianohacker this persists until you are 25 03:57 * rangi goes for beer 03:57 pianohacker the _second_ you become a grad student, though, this stops happening, and your aid reflects your own income only... 04:02 dcook That does sound bizarre 04:02 wizzyrea to your benefit or detriment? 04:04 pianohacker to my benefit, massively; I used to not even get enough federal loans to cover tuition, and now I get loans plus grant 04:04 pianohacker *grants 04:14 dcook Money money money :D 04:16 pianohacker it's a high-stakes way to learn personal finance... 04:17 dcook Yeah, no doubt... 04:18 dcook I think I was quite fortunate with the Canadian medical and educational systems 04:18 dcook Well, high school was dull. Would've loved advanced courses, but you can't win them all :p. 04:19 pianohacker I think high school is dull for most? 04:23 dcook Well, I think lots of people have a miserable high school existence, so I'm fairly pleased overall 04:23 pianohacker I like a lot of things about America, but there's a lot of things that have demonstrably failed as private institutions that we stubbornly hold on to 04:23 pianohacker dcook: true! dull is better than soul crushing 04:23 dcook :) 04:24 dcook Yeah, as a non-American, it's a weird position to be in 04:24 dcook I like lots of Americans. America also has a lot of rad things in it. 04:24 dcook But some of the other things are just baffling :S. 04:24 pianohacker yeah... 04:24 dcook Mind you, other countries are like that too. Just not as much in the media's attention. 04:25 dcook I probably know more about American celebrities than I do Australian celebrities, and I live in Australia. 04:25 dcook I don't even watch TV! 04:25 dcook Free uni and free healthcare would be great though... 04:25 dcook Free transport. I'm coming around to the idea of free PT. 04:26 pianohacker we're the sexy alluring lady/gent with deeeeep mental issues... 04:26 dcook Could probably say that about Australia too :p 04:26 dcook As for Canada, I like to think our issues are fairly superficial and located in Ontario :p 04:27 pianohacker [off] I would legitimately give my left testicle for free uni and healthcare at this point 04:27 * dcook forgets sometimes that he hasn't lived in Canada regularly for a few years now 04:27 dcook [off] Who wouldn't? :) 04:28 pianohacker heh. What is ontario like? My only experience of Canada as of yet is Montreal, which, well 04:28 dcook Norway only has 5 million people. Maybe we should all go and boost their population... 04:28 dcook How was Montreal? 04:28 pianohacker [off] "I may be a lady but I'll get someone else's dammit" 04:28 * wizzyrea waves from NZ 04:28 dcook [off] Wha? 04:28 * dcook really needs to visit NZ... 04:28 pianohacker [off] They can't exactly give one can they? 04:28 pianohacker aaaaaanyway 04:29 dcook [off] I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. lol. 04:29 pianohacker montreal was fun, but you can tell just how hard the french canadians are trying to prove that they're french 04:29 dcook Ontario is all right. Just the politicians have issues. 04:29 dcook Mmm 04:29 dcook Yeah, that's a bit of a thing sometimes 04:29 wizzyrea right, was gonna say about montreal - it's french. 04:29 dcook Ah, but it's not. It's Quebecois. 04:30 * dcook would use the correct diacritics and stuff but Hexchat and keyboard shortcuts don't play nicely 04:30 pianohacker the street grid alone, dear _lord_ 04:30 wizzyrea I was 12 when I was there, all I remember is the quebecois thing, and BLT's, and traffic. 04:30 dcook Québeçois* 04:30 dcook There we go :) 04:30 dcook Hmm, I can't recall the traffic 04:30 dcook Street grid? 04:30 dcook I mostly remember poutine. 04:30 wizzyrea or lack thereof 04:30 pianohacker ^ 04:31 wizzyrea man, I hated fries when I was a kid, but I'd be all about poutine now. 04:31 dcook And that many people asking for money in subways spoke impeccable English and French 04:31 dcook O_O 04:31 dcook You hated fries as a kid? 04:31 * dcook wonders if Liz might be an alien 04:31 pianohacker in _kansas_? 04:31 wizzyrea I did, yes 04:31 dcook Well, I hated cheese as a kid. 04:31 dcook So that's fair 04:31 wizzyrea it just wasn't a thing 04:31 pianohacker interesting... 04:31 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 04:31 wizzyrea I wasn't crazy about fries 04:31 * dcook also hated mushrooms... until he had fresh mushrooms 04:32 wizzyrea I also hated onions and peppers. 04:32 * pianohacker was also converted to tomatoes by fresh tomatoes 04:32 dcook Mmm same 04:32 wizzyrea capsicums 04:32 dcook hehe 04:32 pianohacker now I could eat them by the bushel 04:32 dcook I was just about to ask if they were capsicums 04:32 dcook Mmm, pianohacker, yes! 04:32 dcook Same 04:32 dcook Turns out fresh food really is awesome. 04:32 wizzyrea i've always liked tomatoes 04:32 dcook And trying to make websites conform to bad designs is not awesome 04:32 * dcook glares at his browser 04:32 wizzyrea :( 04:32 wizzyrea that is not awesome. 04:33 pianohacker The second I have a yard there'll be tomato plants all over it 04:33 wizzyrea oh, check out our new pretty koha: http://ihc.mykoha.co.nz 04:33 wizzyrea it's piiink 04:33 pianohacker ooh very nice. bootstrap? 04:33 wizzyrea yarp 04:33 pianohacker sweet 04:34 wizzyrea you'll be happy to know that we also have a library using the overdrive integration :) 04:34 wizzyrea pretty exciting 04:34 dcook pretty! 04:34 dcook Now I want bubblegum.. 04:35 dcook Has anyone tried to force their bootstrap Koha to be a fixed width? :( 04:35 pianohacker glad to hear. That code can be a bit frustrating to work with due to the way overdrive manages their API, but it seems to be of value to a lot of people 04:35 wizzyrea hm I think so 04:35 wizzyrea http://hewitson.mykoha.co.nz 04:36 dcook Actually, it does work all right in Koha 04:36 dcook I'm just having issues with DSpace's bootstrap template now.. 04:36 wizzyrea ah well yeah that'll be different 04:36 dcook Mmm, nice one with the media query for the image on that fixed with one, wizzyrea 04:36 dcook I did that with another DSpace and it worked quite nicely 04:36 * dcook just likes saying "media query" 04:36 * wizzyrea points to our design team 04:37 dcook Nice one, design team! 04:37 wizzyrea i can't take credit for that, but they are ace at their jobs. 04:38 wizzyrea http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/the-adventures-of-grandparents-on-facebook?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp#81hsz0 this is totally snerkworthy 04:39 wizzyrea blargh timesheets I almost forgot 04:40 dcook Almost beer o'clock for you folk! 04:40 wizzyrea yeah it is, I'm skipping it today though 04:41 pianohacker I feel so terrible for laughing at the one about the girl going to college 04:42 dcook D'oh 04:42 dcook It helps when you remember to add the original style that would've cascaded down to fix the problem you can't seem to fix.. 04:43 dcook pianohacker: hehe 04:44 dcook I guess it's a good thing my grandma isn't on FB 05:01 pianohacker good night all 05:35 cait lol 05:36 dcook ? 05:36 dcook hi cait :) 05:36 cait http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/97276575779/someone-in-a-timezone-where-it-is-very-early-pops 05:36 cait sounds slightly familiar 06:01 cait interesting discussions while i was sleeping :) 06:01 cait and glad again to live in germany with our health care system 06:11 dcook hehe 06:11 dcook I don't know too much about it. Is it all public? 06:11 cait you can also get private insurance here too 06:12 cait but i'd say the normal case is you have public 06:12 cait flashing your card and not paying when you go to a doctor 06:12 cait just a small amount for a prescription, similar to nz maybe? 06:13 dcook Does that mean there are private hospitals as well? 06:13 dcook You can get private insurance in Canada, but I think it's mostly for things like dental and optical 06:13 cait hm i could imagine there are for some things, specialized 06:14 cait but i have never run into one knowingly 06:14 dcook Hmm, sounds similar to Canada then 06:14 cait it's not something i have thought about a lot - if you are sick you go to the ER or to a doctor 06:14 dcook Yeah, that's how I grew up too :) 06:14 cait there are doctors who only take patients with private insurance tho 06:15 dcook Interesting 06:15 wahanui Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 06:15 dcook I think there are private practices back home as well, at least when it comes to psych I think 06:15 * dcook glances at koha-devel 06:15 dcook Nothing new there since this morning.. 06:15 cait probably a timezone thing 06:15 cait and it's friday :) 06:16 dcook Friday! 06:17 dcook I'm working on a buddhist library right now, so I'm quite relaxed... 06:17 dcook ;) 06:17 cait nice :) 06:17 cait not sure what i will be working on today 06:17 cait i started to update the marc frameowrks in our installations... 06:18 dcook \o/ 06:18 cait rda fields etc 06:18 dcook That's awesome 06:18 cait lol 06:18 cait really? 06:18 dcook Well, I think so :p 06:18 dcook I think it's really important to have up-to-date frameworks :) 06:18 cait :) 06:18 cait yeah it is for us even more 06:18 dcook Especially as the consequences of having old frameworks isn't always readily apparent to libraries 06:18 cait because cataloguing is done in the union catalog software mostly 06:18 dcook Mmm, righto! 06:19 cait and you don't notice when a field/subfield is missing in koha 06:20 dcook Exactly 06:20 dcook I used the XML that bgkriegel uploaded. Loaded the XML into a hash, iterated through the frameworks, and did a insert ignore 06:20 dcook With a... "on duplicate" as well 06:21 dcook So I could update the "repeatable" attribute for existing rows 06:21 dcook yo indradg 06:21 indradg hi dcook 06:21 dcook Of course, now that all of our libraries have updated frameworks, the impetus for building a more sustainable mechanism has flagged a bit... 06:22 * indradg is still so sleepy that drinking the first cup of tea looks like a tough chore! :-( 06:22 dcook :( 06:25 eythian @later tell tcohen I've fixed the Test::Simple thing, but now I have this: http://paste.koha-community.org/203 -- I'll hold you responsible even though it's probably not your fault :D 06:25 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 06:25 dcook Oh nose 06:25 * dcook was thinking about the whole subtest issue recently... 06:26 eythian dcook: I'm just making a newer version of test::simple a dependency 06:26 eythian I had trouble specifying that in the build-depends, but have it sorted now. 06:27 dcook \o/ 06:27 eythian now I have to go get a bus 06:27 eythian later 06:30 ashimema morning all 06:30 cait dcook: i am doing it with sql probably :) 06:30 cait morning ashimema 06:31 dcook cait: I did it with SQL as well :) 06:32 dcook Well, SQL in Perl.. 06:32 dcook later eythian 06:32 dcook morning ashimema 06:32 ashimema just reading your dbic email dcook. 06:34 dcook Mmm, I sure write a lot. 06:35 dcook Perhaps I should change my middle name to Opinionated 06:35 dcook :P 06:35 cait that would make your initials doc than, right? :) 06:35 dcook Oooo it would! 06:35 dcook I think that's a great idea 06:35 reiveune hello 06:35 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:35 dcook salut reiveune 06:36 reiveune salut dcook 06:43 cait hi reiveune 06:43 cait bbia 06:43 cait b 06:43 reiveune \o/ cait 06:43 dcook Have to love when you're trying to match backgrounds but your reference site has a different hierarchy of containers.. 06:46 dcook Hmm, I can do this.. 06:48 dcook Muahaha 06:52 alex_a bonjour 06:52 wahanui hola, alex_a 06:54 fridolin hie all 06:54 ashimema I've got totally lost on the dbic debate now.. 06:55 ashimema Think I'll grab ColinC today for a chat.. We seem to use dbic in a really odd way in koha. 06:55 ashimema anywho.. breakfast time 07:00 fridolin breakfast ;) a good one 07:13 Joubu Good morning 07:15 gaetan_B hello 07:16 dcook greetings France folk :) 07:16 * dcook really needs to get better at leaving the office on time, especially on Fridays... 07:19 dcook All right. Leaving! 07:19 dcook Have a good Friday/weekend all 08:32 * cait waves 09:01 ashimema hey cait 09:03 cait hi cait 09:03 cait um 09:03 cait hi ashimema 10:47 ashimema Anyone added cronjobs to a package install? 10:47 cait not specific to one instance :( 10:47 ashimema I'm getting confused.. 10:47 ashimema :( 10:48 ashimema I thought adding a /etc/cron.d/koha-instance file with a bunch of jobs would do the trick.. 10:48 ashimema but it never seems to get executed.. 10:48 ashimema I'm baffleds 10:48 cait hm 10:48 cait could it be permissions or something like that? 10:51 pastebot "nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204 10:51 pastebot "nic" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "library" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205 11:24 agbolo hello guyz 11:24 agbolo i am blocked 11:25 agbolo i did a make and i had these warning messages 11:25 agbolo _koha DOC_DIR=/usr/local/info perl Makefile.PL If installing on a Win32 platform, be sure to use: 'dmake -x MAXLINELENGTH=300000' Warning: prerequisite AnyEvent::HTTP 2.13 not found. Warning: prerequisite Archive::Extract 0.60 not found. We have 0.34. Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Data::Paginator 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite Gravatar::URL 1.03 not found. We have 1.02. Warning: prerequisi 11:26 agbolo please wbat does it mean? 11:27 agbolo must i install all the prerequisites been reported as warning messages? 11:32 agbolo anybody home? 11:33 agbolo pls help 11:39 agbolo anybody available 13:09 cait ah, no oleonard 13:09 cait :( 13:48 tcohen hi 13:48 wahanui salut, tcohen 14:02 kivilahtio where do I put unit test for the new Koha:: namespace? 14:02 kivilahtio mainly Koha::Reserves.pm ? 14:03 kivilahtio they are db_dependent tests :) 14:19 cait not sure kivilahtio, tcohen? 14:19 tcohen there's no consensus 14:19 tcohen id put that on t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves.t 14:19 cait sounds good to me 14:20 tcohen some prefer t/db_dependent/Koha_Reserves.t 14:20 tcohen (i don't) 14:21 tcohen if you're focusing on a specific sub from Koha::Reserves and are writing several tests, use a subtest definition 14:21 tcohen or even t/db_dependent/Koha/Reserves_specific_sub.t 14:25 cait nice 14:25 cait i wonder 14:25 cait we don't have a koha:reserves yet, do we? 14:25 cait kivilahtio: what are you up to? :) 14:28 kivilahtio cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12353 14:28 huginn 04Bug 12353: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices. 14:28 kivilahtio cait: we are finally upgrading our production to 3.16.3 14:28 cait hm 14:28 cait i think there is a bug for that 14:28 cait it might be duplicate 14:28 kivilahtio cat this weekend. 14:28 cait i think i'd wait for 3.16.4 14:28 kivilahtio we wont 14:28 cait or look at the bugs in bugzilla with candidate 3.16.4 as keyword 14:28 kivilahtio we can upgrade again 14:29 cait there are some that you might want to pick 14:29 cait if you really want to update - like a follow up for ajax so the holds dispaly correctly 14:29 kivilahtio cait: already got that 14:29 cait ok :) 14:29 kivilahtio cait: but there might be more fixes that need doing 14:30 kivilahtio cait: how do I make that candidate search? 14:30 cait if you look atht eholds bug, it has a keyword, try searching for that 14:30 cait i am looking for the holds/holidays one 14:31 cait bug 8735 14:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Expire holds waiting only on days the library is open 14:32 cait initial commitmonster? :D 14:32 cait i am all for displaying it, but I am not sure if you ahd kyle's patch already 14:33 kivilahtio cait: had I known, paxed made this patch months ago and now it broke (it has kinda always been broken) when migratiing to 3.16.3 14:33 cait kyle's path took a while to get in 14:33 cait i remember because i tested it 14:33 kivilahtio cait: I think Kyle's patch is as good as ours 14:34 kivilahtio cait: Too bad I need to start working on other issues and worry about that later 14:34 cait if you coudl take a look that would be great, i think it might be missing some aspects about showing the pickup date 14:34 kivilahtio cait: I can provide a followup after we have migrated to 3.16.3 14:34 cait there has also been a patch pushed recently for formatting the dates in the notices according to the pref 14:34 cait cool 14:34 cait i will put a seealso 14:34 kivilahtio if I remember, but prolly a shitstorm will hit us after the migration :) 14:35 cait i think you have quite a few customizations still 14:35 cait i will keep my figners crossed for you :) 14:35 kivilahtio we do 14:35 kivilahtio rhanks 14:39 kivilahtio cait: our feature is completely different, we just skip holidays, so i just got an item waiting for me, then weekends are holidaytime and with 6 day time to pick waiting holds, my expiration is bumbed up by two weekends 14:39 cait ah 14:39 cait what does kyle do? skip to the next possible opening day? 14:39 kivilahtio cait: not completely different, but we get extra day added for each holiday, I think it makes no difference really 14:39 cait might need a pref then, we have one for calculating due dates 14:40 kivilahtio cait: looks like it 14:40 wahanui Can we get some hard data on that? 14:40 cait shh wahanui 14:40 wahanui I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION 14:40 cait lol 14:40 kivilahtio whanui is getting smarter by the day 14:40 kivilahtio wahanui is getting smarter by the day 14:40 cait yeah, he will outsmart us all soon 14:40 kivilahtio i think so 14:40 cait wahanui? 14:40 wahanui yes, cait? 14:51 tcohen hi cait 15:00 reiveune bye 15:05 fridolin bye 15:12 tcohen Joubu: i'll give those problems with patron import a ride next week 15:12 tcohen i'm out of town today and the rest of the weekend 18:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:12 abcgh SOS 18:12 abcgh PLEASE CAN ANYBODY HEKP ME ON THIS 18:12 abcgh PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 KOHA_CONF=blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/00-checkdatabase-version.t ........ ok t/00-deprecated.t ................... ok t/00-load.t ......................... 2/? Subroutine main::GetContract redefined at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Test/More.pm line 805 Too late to run INIT block at /home/koha/Downloads/koha-3.16.03/blib/PERL_MODULE_D 18:12 abcgh ANY HELP ON THE ABOVE 18:15 abcgh SOS HELP PLEASE 18:24 abcgh PLS CAN ANYBODY HELP 19:55 WNickC Hi all 19:55 WNickC does anyone know if there is a list of which notices can be customised by branch and which cannot?