Time Nick Message 01:05 * tcohen didn't know we don't have a way to import/export authority frameworks 01:05 * tcohen lied to a librarian 01:05 rangi ahh 01:06 rangi there are some scripts that can go through bugzilla and make a changelog type thing 01:06 rangi it might be a start of a feature list 01:07 rangi if we pulled out all enhancements and new features 01:07 rangi that are pushed, or closed etc 01:07 tcohen :-D 01:10 rangi something like this 01:10 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/status/changes.html 01:15 tcohen awesome! 01:15 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen 01:19 wizzyrea ohh awesome indeed 01:31 dcook tcohen: I opened a bug report for import/export of authority frameworks I believe 01:31 dcook Never got around to it though... 01:32 dcook Need to find a way to update those too for existing installs.. 01:32 dcook As I think authority records had changes with RDA as well 01:32 tcohen dcook: if you find the bug, point me to it 01:32 tcohen it seems we have all that is needed to implement it 01:33 dcook Probably :) 01:34 tcohen bye! 01:34 dcook Hmm, maybe I didn't open a bug 01:34 dcook I think I might've just sent a listserv email then... 01:34 dcook Or just talked about it on IRC 01:34 dcook Ages ago in any case 01:40 BobB hi all 01:40 BobB has anyone done an Overdrive integration? 01:41 eythian we have a couple. 01:42 BobB cool 01:42 BobB so if you set the parameters in the sys prefs, does that give Overdrive results with the search results? 01:43 BobB what I am wondering is whether the user has to authenticate to the OPAC to see the OD results? 01:43 eythian I'm not actually sure. I haven't done it myself, but I don't _think_ so. 01:43 eythian rangi will know more. 01:43 BobB so anyone can access the results, but then perhaps not link to the content? 01:43 rangi actually wizzyrea did south taranaki, shes the one to ask 01:44 rangi ive never actually done one 01:44 eythian oh right. 01:44 eythian ask wizzyrea :) 01:44 BobB ok, thx :) 01:50 * wizzyrea waves 01:55 wizzyrea that thing is a thing I know about >.> 01:57 eythian @later tell cait http://www.oktoberfest.co.nz/ 01:57 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 01:57 wizzyrea it's a springtime party! 02:25 dcook Sweeeet. I think I have an idea to improve the ccl.properties 02:25 dcook range r=o 02:25 dcook Boom 02:25 * dcook drops mic 02:26 dcook It doesn't really work that way though :p 02:26 dcook acqdate,range,st-date-normalized:2013-01-01 - 2015-10-01 02:26 dcook :D 02:26 dcook "acqdate,range:2013 - 2015" would work though 02:27 dcook Ohh you could even do "acqdate,range,st-date-normalized:2013-01 - 2015-10" 02:28 dcook Could have a whole range of ccl aliases for Zebra's special attributes... 02:29 dcook s=pw The structure is set to either word or phrase depending on the number of tokens in a term (phrase-word). 02:29 dcook That's kind of magical 02:30 dcook I don't think we'd want to use that by default though 02:30 dcook I think most folk expect a "wrdl" search 02:31 dcook Oooh. I didn't know you could change ccl.properties without re-indexing. 02:31 dcook Of course, that makes total sense... 02:39 dcook Mind you, maybe there's no point with that... 02:39 dcook Maybe it makes more sense to add "r=o" to acqdate 02:39 dcook That would probably make it easier for transitioning to elasticsearch.. 02:40 dcook Just adding "r=o" to dates 02:40 dcook Well...not all dates 02:40 dcook r=r allows "1950-1960" 02:40 dcook while r=o would require "1950 - 1960" 02:40 dcook r=r won't work with iso dates whereas r=o will... 02:41 dcook But we can't change existing r=r to r=o without changing documentation 02:41 * wizzyrea blinks 02:41 wizzyrea are you monologuing again? 02:41 wizzyrea :) 02:42 dcook Maybe a little bit... :p 02:47 dcook Hmm, the dates don't work quite as I'd expect.. 02:47 dcook Close but Zebra returning more results than I'd think.. 02:49 dcook Maybe funny processing.. 03:42 dcook I love how "st-date-normalized" should actually be "st-date-unnormalized". 03:43 eythian heh 03:43 dcook It's like someone thought, "Hey...how can I best screw with a bunch of people..." 03:44 dcook Then again.. 03:44 dcook wth.. 03:44 dcook Ok, I think Indexdata made this mistake 03:45 dcook Or maybe I'm just reading it strangely.. 03:45 dcook Ooh 03:45 dcook eythian: I wanted to ask you about ES 03:46 dcook How does it handle ranges? 03:46 dcook Specifically for dates 03:46 dcook Actually, that's not the real question 03:46 eythian it depends 03:46 dcook What's the syntax for specifying a date range? 03:46 eythian the way I'm using it, I think it's just date1-date2 03:46 dcook Interesting 03:46 wahanui well, Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 03:46 wizzyrea edit links from the detail page: super great, thanks. 03:46 eythian oh, no 03:47 dcook wizzyrea:? 03:47 eythian field:[date1 TO date2 03:47 eythian ] 03:47 eythian http://lucene.apache.org/core/3_0_3/queryparsersyntax.html#Range%20Searches 03:47 wizzyrea there's a little edit link in the items table on the biblio detail view now 03:47 dcook This syntax http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/query-dsl-range-query.html matches something I was going to try myself as well 03:47 wizzyrea takes you directly to editing the item, and it's fantastic. 03:48 dcook Even when independent branches is turned on? 03:48 eythian yeah, I'm not using that method of querying ES (yet) 03:48 dcook eythian: So how would that look if a user were writing it out? 03:48 dcook Oh.. 03:48 dcook I guess they'd have to use the Lucence syntax 03:48 eythian I've never tried, I just know that it works with the advanced search range things. 03:48 eythian yeah 03:49 dcook I've been thinking a bit about context based help pages.. 03:49 dcook So that someone could click on "Syntax help" or something less scary, and get the right help for building a query 03:49 eythian ah yeah 03:50 dcook As at the moment there's no way for people to know what search engine is in use 03:50 dcook As far as I can tell 03:50 eythian yeah, you pretty much can't 03:50 dcook Yeah, I was supporting someone today and I didn't have access to their backend at all (not even their staff client) 03:51 dcook Rather interesting trying to figure things out when you can't see anything 03:51 dcook I'm not even sure if it WAS an elephant 03:52 dcook I'm thinking of changing "acqdate" so that it can be used with date ranges 03:53 dcook Ahh 03:53 dcook Date (un-normalized) 100 unsupported 03:54 dcook Makes sense 03:54 dcook I wonder why we bother with it then though 03:55 eythian sorting? 03:55 wahanui somebody said sorting was a Monday job 03:55 dcook Oh, I just mean that Zebra says it doesn't support it. But we still have it in ccl.properties. 03:56 eythian ah 03:56 dcook Lots of them actually 03:57 dcook Oh my... 03:57 dcook According to the Bib-1 profile, "Date normalized" is supposed to be "Generalized time" as according to ASN.1 http://www.obj-sys.com/asn1tutorial/node14.html 03:58 dcook ISO 8824 03:58 dcook Rather than ISO 8601's YYYY-MM-DD 03:59 dcook I assume when Zebra says it uses ISO dates that it uses 8601... 04:00 eythian oh man ASN.1 04:00 dcook Mmm, that's what MARC 005 uses, yeah? 04:01 eythian I think so 04:01 dcook Hmm, maybe not... 04:01 dcook But based on it 04:01 dcook Apparently 005 uses ISO 8601 :S 04:02 dcook I guess the standard does say hyphens are optional 04:02 dcook at least for YYYY-MM-DD 04:03 dcook Yeah...I don't think MARC adheres to 8601 even though it says it does for the 005 04:03 * dcook gives MARC a thumbs down 04:03 eythian MARC doesn't even adhere to the MARC spec. 04:03 dcook hehe 04:04 dcook 005 is almost ISO 8824 but not quite 04:04 dcook :S 04:04 dcook Yeah, MARC takes liberties with MARC 04:07 dcook eythian: Any idea what a "digital number" i s? 04:07 dcook is* 04:07 eythian a 1 or a 0? 04:08 dcook Hmm, I don't think that's what they're meaning :/ 04:08 dcook numeric (@attr 4=109) ignored Numeric ('n') Special index for digital numbers 04:08 eythian I've got no idea 04:08 dcook I assume they mean that it's an integer? 04:08 eythian maybe? 04:08 wahanui maybe is, like, a momentaneous error 04:08 dcook lol 04:08 dcook well timed, wahanui 04:08 wahanui dcook: sorry... 04:08 dcook I think that's what it must mean 04:09 dcook Maybe not.. 04:09 dcook year (@attr 4=4) ignored Year ('y') Non-tokenized and non-normalized 4 digit numbers 04:09 dcook Makes sense 04:09 dcook I suppose we do say "4 digit numbers" 04:09 eythian yeah, I guess 04:09 dcook I can't imagine a number that's not a digital number.. 04:10 dcook Maybe as opposed to a date 04:10 dcook Which may or may not have extra punctuation? 04:10 eythian "twelve" 04:11 eythian there's no digits there 04:11 dcook Mmm 04:11 dcook When you say it like that, it just seems obvious :p 04:11 dcook Good one 04:12 dcook I am tempted to make a "range" qualifier... 04:12 dcook You could specify "local-number,range:1-100" 04:12 dcook Get all records with bib numbers between 1 and 100 04:12 dcook But... I don't want to add something that might make it more annoying for people to use ElasticSearch at some point 04:12 dcook So maybe makes more sense to make local-number capable of being a range on its own 04:13 * dcook nods to himself 04:14 dcook In that case, st-numeric probably shouldn't have a "r=o" in it 04:15 dcook Rather unnecessary 04:18 dcook Hmm, could actually improve a few of the item indexes 04:18 dcook Not sure anyone uses them though 04:33 * wizzyrea always enjoys dcook's monologues 04:33 wizzyrea truly. 04:33 dcook I always hope that they're entertaining at least :) 04:34 dcook Just imagine if I were a teacher O_O 04:34 dcook Poor students... 04:40 dcook Interesting... "Date-of-acquisition" is the only index that uses a "date" register 04:40 dcook We use a "number" register for "date-entered-on-file" 04:40 dcook That seems great.. 04:41 dcook Oh, and a sort index 04:41 dcook sort register rather 04:41 dcook I wonder if it doesn't work with date.. 04:41 dcook wizzyrea: I also love when I find a bug and then I go on these big quests to right wrongs 04:44 dcook Man "ls" is a sweet tool.. 04:44 eythian sudo apt-get install sl 04:44 wizzyrea :) 04:45 dcook hehe 04:45 * dcook wishes he had a debian-based OS.. 04:45 dcook I wonder if they have a rpm for opensuse 04:46 dcook Nah 04:56 dcook Love that moment when you discover the cause for something that you've been wondering about... 05:17 dcook ISO 8601:2000 allowed truncation (by agreement), where leading components of a date or time are omitted. Notably, this allowed two-digit years to be used and the ambiguous formats YY-MM-DD and YYMMDD. This provision was removed in ISO 8601:2004. 05:17 dcook Standards... :/ 05:19 dcook Whoa... Zebra deja vu... 05:23 mtj peeps, can anyone recomend an best chioce for SIP2 - telnet or raw-socket? 05:24 mtj koha prefers raw to telnet for sip2... from memory 05:25 mtj any prefs, anyone? 05:25 * dcook has no clue about SIP2 05:26 mtj i might have missed wizzyrea - she would know :0) 05:27 * mtj will try to catch wiz tomorrow 05:28 mtj i sorta remember telnet option, to be more glitchy for sip stuff 05:34 * magnuse waves 05:34 * cait waves 05:35 dcook hey cait, magnuse 05:51 magnuse hiya dcook 06:20 * Oak waves 06:21 magnuse Oak 06:21 Oak magnuse 06:21 magnuse :-) 06:21 Oak :] 06:21 magnuse \o/ 06:22 Oak |o_ 06:22 Oak nah. does not look right. 06:23 dcook _o| 06:23 dcook Hmm, nopes. 06:24 dcook A little like dancing I suppose! 06:25 ashimema_zzzz morning #koha 06:28 Oak yup. or that aviation hand signals... 06:30 Oak more like dancing. like the head is tilted towards the horizontal arm. saturday night fever style, almost. 06:31 Oak okay enough use of imagination. back to work. 06:31 magnuse good morning ashimema 06:37 reiveune hello 06:41 magnuse bonojur reiveune 06:41 * cait has to run, bbiab 06:41 reiveune hi magnuse dcook cait 06:49 alex_a bonjour 07:24 gaetan_B hello 07:38 magnuse bonojur cait gaetan_B alex_a 07:42 magnuse wow, my gitified dev install is acting weird, with different versions in all the different places that has a version number 07:43 ashimema well done magnuse.. 07:43 alex_a salut magnuse 07:44 ashimema I'm still very much up and down as to whether I think gitified is a good approach to development or not now.. 07:44 * cait waves 07:44 cait ashimema: i think it might be good for running workshops 07:44 magnuse yeah, it's got its up and downs 07:44 ashimema I'm running into more and more cases where I want to test somthing that isn't easily doable using a gitified install (zebra index changes for example). 07:44 ashimema It's certainly quick to get you up and running.. 07:45 ashimema my main dev environment is gitified though, and I'm starting to regret that.. 07:46 ashimema I do think however, with some modifications, the script would serve very well for getting sandbox instances up and running super quick.. 07:46 ashimema at the moment, they suffer pretty much the same drawbacks.. 07:46 ashimema but in a sandbox environment they're not so nasty ;) 07:46 * ashimema is waffling again.. somone kick him 07:47 * ashimema is going to go back to playing with mojolicious, angularjs and mongodb 07:47 cait oooh 07:48 * ashimema should add bootstrap in there somewhere.. and we have a very pretty app very quickly. 07:50 cait :) 08:04 * magnuse becomes curious as to what ashimema's app does 08:10 Oak i'll ask. what does your app do ashimema? 08:10 magnuse thanks Oak :-) 08:10 Oak :) 08:17 rana hello 08:17 wahanui salut, rana 08:18 rana i am facing koha web installation problem 08:18 rana following error i have found 08:18 rana Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 802. 08:18 rana BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 68. 08:19 rana anyone have any idea? 08:20 Oak rana: which linux distribution and version are you running? 08:20 rana ubuntu 12.04 08:20 magnuse rana: and how are you installing? packages? 08:20 magnuse and which instructions are you following? 08:20 rana packages 08:20 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:20 rana yes 08:20 rana it got the koha web installation screen 08:21 rana succesfully login 08:21 rana and follw the instructions 08:21 cait did you install mysql-server? 08:21 rana yes 08:21 cait how did you create the instance? 08:22 cait how did your koha-create command look like? 08:22 rana with the command koha-create --create-db INSTANCE NAME HERE 08:22 cait hm 08:22 cait magnuse: ? 08:22 rana means 08:23 cait i am not sure what's wrong :( 08:23 cait magnuse: do you have an idea? 08:24 indradg rana: did you manage to complete the install? or the error hit you before that? 08:25 rana no error i have found during installation 08:25 indradg so when did you face the error? 08:25 rana when i open the koha web installation page 08:25 indradg "redirecting you in 5 seconds or click here" part? 08:25 rana successfully login 08:25 indradg ok 08:25 indradg then? 08:26 rana then when koha connect mysql then the error came 08:26 Oak this runs ok?: service mysql restart 08:26 rana ok let me c heck 08:29 rana its cant be start 08:29 Oak 5 cookies his database server was down 08:30 rana what to do 08:30 Oak oho. 08:30 Oak what does it say? 08:30 Oak why can't it start i mean. 08:30 rana cant connect local mysql server through socket 08:31 rana var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock 08:31 indradg rana: did you install mysql-server ? 08:31 rana yes 08:32 magnuse what if you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"? 08:32 magnuse no, that might be wrong 08:32 magnuse no, it's right 08:32 rana job fail to start 08:33 magnuse any error meassge? 08:33 rana its stying JOb fail to start 08:34 rana should i remove mysql-server and again reinstall it? 08:36 magnuse does it just say "failed to start", or does it indicate why? 08:36 magnuse there is a log file you can look at 08:38 magnuse try 08:38 magnuse sudo tail /var/log/mysql.err 08:39 magnuse sudo tail /var/log/mysql/error.log 08:39 magnuse on my machine they are empty, but you might have more luck 08:39 rana ty 08:40 Oak oh well. we tried. 08:46 ashimema sorry, was in a meeting.. 08:46 ashimema it's a re-write of a ptfs-europe product.. rebus:list.. 08:46 ashimema it basically just gathers lists of materials for libraries 08:47 ashimema right.. must dash 08:47 indradg couple of years back I had to concoct a custom pre-seeded debian DVD, with all deps in place and then a bunch of curl scripts to talk to the web-installer and forcefeed the default system values. 08:55 cait hm we cheat 08:55 cait the indexes for the facets, su-to, su-geo etc. 08:55 cait all seem to resovle into Subject... 08:55 cait *sigh* 09:28 magnuse cait: it's not just that everything in those fields are *also* in the Subject index? 09:31 cait there seems to be no specific index 09:31 cait if yoiu look at ccl properties, it seems those indexnames all are mapped to Subject 09:32 cait and then the su- don't appear in record.abs at all 09:42 magnuse and it's supposed to be implemented for grs1? 09:45 Joubu hello #koha 09:46 Oak hello Joubu 09:57 cait magnuse: i think dom is just the same 09:57 cait magnuse: talking about the old facet code 09:57 cait we just don't have specific indexes or don't use them for the facets right now 09:58 magnuse ok, i was just clutching at straws :-) 10:00 cait understandable ;) 10:00 * magnuse needs lunch 10:45 magnuse hiya Viktor 10:45 Viktor Hi magnuse :) 10:45 Oak no sleep for the computers. 11:48 * cait had lunch 11:52 oleonard paxed: msgctxt? 11:56 paxed oleonard: google it 11:56 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/1n6mH4N.jpg 11:57 oleonard paxed: No. 11:57 oleonard paxed: If you're making a suggestion, explain it. 12:10 Viktor Is it possible that the two fields "today's checkouts" and "previous checkouts" are displayed in reverse alphabetical order? 12:11 Viktor Because in swedish the two fields are switched (which is correct in reverse alphabetical order) and it's a pain since previous checkouts hides the ones you're doing right now. 12:12 Viktor I've been trying to locate where in the code to look for what's going on but can't find the right place. 12:12 oleonard Viktor: On the circulation page? 12:13 Viktor yep oleonard 12:14 Viktor I looked at the .tt, .pl and .js files but can't really find where the table for checouts is created and how the layout is decided. 12:15 Viktor I know it's some ajax magic, but the stuff my browser showed me was raw data being transfered and not formated html. 12:17 oleonard Yeah the table is being put together outside of circulation.tt now 12:18 Viktor I looked at the includes to but didn't have any luck (which doesn't really say all that much) 12:25 oleonard Viktor: checkouts.js 12:25 oleonard That's where the table is being built 12:26 Viktor Aha - thanks! I'll look into it and see what's going on then. 12:30 oleonard Viktor: I can reproduce your bug, for what it's worth. 12:31 Viktor oleonard: Good to know it's not our install. 12:31 Viktor Should it be filed as a separate bug or just comment on the ajax thread? 12:32 oleonard Separate bug 12:34 Viktor It seems .rowGrouping is the culprit. 12:34 Viktor sGroupingColumnSortDirection: "desc" 12:36 oleonard Does changing that change the behavior for you? 12:38 Viktor Don't know yet. Tried a git pull on my dev install but it just hang up so I'm just fooling around in Safari with my regular laptop now :) 12:39 * oleonard thought it didn't but wasn't editing the file under the correct translation, trying again 12:39 Viktor But if it does just changing that would solve it for us in swedish but mess up our english install :/ 12:39 oleonard Yes that is the culprit 12:40 oleonard ping khall 12:40 Viktor Yay oleonard++ 12:43 khall you rang? 12:43 oleonard The row grouping plugin places "previous checkouts" at the top by doing a sort on the string, but that string is different in different languages 12:45 Viktor Filed a bug now http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12899 12:45 huginn 04Bug 12899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Row grouping in checkouts table is alphabetical and layout depends on words chosen in translation 12:49 khall oleonard: I think we will need to somehow have the sorting direction defined as part of the translations. Is there any example of that in Koha already? 12:49 khall https://jquery-datatables-row-grouping.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/customGroupOrdering.html 12:49 oleonard I was just about to post that link too khall :) 12:49 khall heh 12:50 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Something like this? A dummy column with numeric sort data" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/198 12:51 khall ooh, that's an interesting idea! 12:52 tcohen jo 12:52 tcohen hi 12:52 wahanui bidet, tcohen 12:52 cait please no cryptic strings for translators :) 12:52 Viktor Think I'll generally leave you to solve this :) But I had thought the grouping was done in js based on the "checked out on" dates. 12:52 cait a hidden column or value woudl be good 12:54 oleonard I'll submit a patch. khall I hope you can take a look at it 12:55 khall will do! 12:57 Viktor Thanks oleonard++ khall++ cait++ 13:13 mveron Hi #koha 13:57 Joubu @QA team: bug 12891 is critical and needs QA 13:57 huginn Joubu: I suck 13:57 Joubu huginn: yes I know 13:57 huginn Joubu: downloading the Perl source 14:00 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: we need just this, on *slimUtils.xsl" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/200 14:03 cait tcohen: doens't look too scary - but how to use that everywhere? :) 14:05 tcohen <xsl:call-template name="buildURL"><xsl:with-param name="IntranetBiblioDefaultView">...</xsl:with-param></xsl:call-template> 14:05 tcohen where ... would be <xsl:value-of></.. 14:05 tcohen the variable itself 14:32 mveron oleonard ++ :-) 14:32 cait Joubu: sorry for bug 10226 - shoudl have marked it better, hesitated to fail :( 14:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , suspended holds still show not available 14:33 Joubu cait: no problem, now we are tests :) 14:33 Joubu have 14:33 Joubu ... oops 14:34 cait Joubu: thx :) Joubu++ 14:40 druthb gmcharlt++ # mentioning Koha's under-appreciated QAM in his blog 14:42 * cait hides 14:44 * druthb gets a bungee cord, ties gmcharlt to his chair with it. 14:44 gmcharlt quassel does not seem to like me today 14:51 * druthb drags cait out of hiding. 14:52 * cait hides behind her support call :) 15:01 reiveune bye 15:05 oleonard Bug 11668 test plan says "Supply translations for the "Total" and "TOTAL" strings in the $LANG-messages.op file." 15:05 oleonard What is the "$LANG-messages.op" file? 15:16 oleonard Oh I see it wasn't generated because bugs. 15:40 Joubu bye #ko 15:40 Joubu hahaha 16:05 tcohen bye Joubu 16:20 khall oleonard: I just filed bug 12904 on a whim. Does this make sense? 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Force browser to load new javascript files after upgrade 16:21 cait khall: hm probably - we tell libraries to clean cache etc too 16:21 cait i once had a werid case with a bad cookie 16:22 khall cait: my problem is I can't reproduce the issue. My browsers just won't cache the files! 16:22 cait the result was that they alsways had all funds showing up in a pull down... 16:22 cait hm but i would't change the files 16:22 cait sorry, just read your bug 16:23 khall cait: yeah, I don't think this involves cookies 16:23 khall we could extend it to include css though 16:23 cait not sure about the solution 16:24 khall I'm open to any solution, it would just be nice to avoid the whole "here's how to clear your browser cache" song and dance every time we upgrade 16:24 cait :) 16:24 cait have to run - bbl :) 16:40 gerundio hi everyone 16:41 gerundio where can I find an article on how to setup send mail on Koha? 16:46 indradg gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#E-mail 16:47 indradg however, if you are looking to setup a smtp (mail) server or a smarthost, there is any number of tutorials on the web that will do 16:49 jcamins postfix? 16:49 wahanui i think postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html 16:50 gerundio indradg, thanks for the tips 16:50 gerundio is there a place in the staff interface where I can send an email for test purposes? 16:52 flustrated Athena is the Devil. 16:53 flustrated I've imported my patron list, I've imported my marc records. But if I try to search for a book, nothing comes up. Am I doing something wrong or missing something? 16:53 flustrated Or do I need to import circ data first? 16:53 flustrated and how do I do that? 16:54 flustrated hello 16:55 indradg flustrated: nope! circ data is not necessary for search of items 16:55 indradg how did you install... .deb package or tarball? 16:56 flustrated It's on an ubuntu server... through apt get 16:57 flustrated Is there some intermediary step after applying the marc records before the catalog can be searched? 16:58 flustrated I can run a report that lists all the books in my catalog 16:58 flustrated but I can't find them to check them out. 16:58 druthb indexing? 16:58 wahanui indexing is done by Zebra. 16:59 gmcharlt flustrated: some possibilities - Zebra is not running; in that case, run koha-start-zebra 17:00 gmcharlt another possibility - Zebra is running (chek for a process named zebrasrv), but the records are not indexed 17:00 gmcharlt in that case, use koha-rebuild-zebra -f 17:02 gmcharlt yet another possibility: the OpacSuppression system preference is on, but due to a quirk, in that case there needs to be at least one record that's marked as suppress 17:02 gmcharlt in that case, either mark a record suppresed via the MARC editor, or turn off the OpacSuppression system preference 17:02 flustrated I feel like I'm 5 17:03 gmcharlt flustrated: sorry, I hope I'm not offending you 17:04 gmcharlt there are just a lot of moving parts to Koha's catalog search 17:05 * cait waves 17:05 cait flustrated: how did you install koha and how did you add the records? :) 17:07 gmcharlt cait: (to save a repeat) via packages 17:07 flustrated then imported data after massaging it 17:08 jcamins How did you import the data? 17:12 flustrated through tools>import patrons and stage MARC and MARC mgmt 17:13 jcamins Okay, good. 17:20 cait oh sorry 17:27 flustrated thanks you've given me some rabbits to chase! 17:30 druthb gmcharlt++ 17:30 tcohen gmcharlt++ 17:32 cait gmcharlt++ :) 17:34 magnuse gmcharlt++ 17:45 indradg hi #koha 17:50 indradg I was looking at bug 6892, tried out something adding 4 in ind1 of 856$u and the entering ftp://<some_url> , should Koha allow that? 17:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , If a URL has been entered without http://, it isn't correctly linked 17:50 indradg jcamins, cait, gmcharlt ^^^ 18:50 flustrated ok, I'm back 18:50 flustrated I do not see Zebra as a running service 19:30 gmcharlt flustrated: no zebrasrv? then sudo koha-start-zebra {librarycode} should start it 19:32 flustrated When I try sudo koha-start-zebra (instance) it says it's already running. But koha says it can't see the zebra. Maybe it's standing next to a picket fence. 19:40 rangi what does ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" show you 19:43 flustrated A long error 19:44 flustrated 29819 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=library-koha-zebra --errlog= etc. 19:45 rangi hmm thats not an error .. is there are a line that looks like 19:45 rangi \_ zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites 19:45 flustrated a couple actually 19:46 rangi right, so yep, the zebrasrv is running successfully then 19:47 flustrated So, is koha just not looking in the right place? 19:47 rangi where is it telling you that it is not running? 19:47 flustrated if I go to the localhost:8080 and click on "about koha" 19:48 bag I'm a little late to the show - maybe this has already been said - but what do you have in your system preference - that reads "SearchEngine" 19:48 rangi and have you done a full rebuild of the indexes ? 19:48 bag you should have Zebra selected there 19:49 flustrated where do I find the system pref setting for "search engine" 19:59 flustrated ok, found it. yep, Zebra is set 19:59 flustrated rebuild command looks like sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library right? 20:00 rangi yep 20:01 flustrated dbd::mysql::st execute failed: table 'koha_library.auth_header' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 440. 20:02 flustrated and a couple more similar messages 21:31 cait nght all 22:11 eythian hi