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20:18 wahanui rumour has it 952 is the field used for items in Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
20:18 Mahdi where's 952
20:18 Mahdi i only see 942
20:17 Mahdi e.g in the 9s tab
20:17 Mahdi what's the big heading?
20:17 bag if you click on the big heading do they "then" appear
20:12 Mahdi some of the tags i mean, that are defined on the framework
20:12 Mahdi hi - when adding a marc record, why is it some of the fields don't show up
20:00 wahanui somebody said reports library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
20:00 bag reports library?
19:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12788: (followup) minor optimization with proper tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ead0d88c74bd0efba2d2ca0123c51ff2b6cf25fc> / Bug 12788: facets calculation should skip 100 if ind1=z <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eefef42abda81e84e42d4a3951684092045886fa> / Bub 12788: (regression test) refactor facet extraction code to allow testing <http://git.koha-
19:40 tcohen nice weekend
19:39 tcohen bye #koha
19:03 bag cait++
19:03 * cait is looking forward to the asado too
19:03 cait :)
19:03 bag it will be up there at some point cait
19:03 tcohen :D
19:03 cait you should put that on the wiki :)
19:02 cait cool :)
19:02 bag I arrive buttcrack earlier in the morning on the 7th (12:37am) and I'm there until the 13th
19:02 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: latest" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195
19:01 tcohen :-D
19:01 bag I'm going to smoke some ribs this weekend so I can start getting inshape for the asado (tcohen) :)
19:01 bag yup got tickets and got my hotel for argentina
18:59 cait how are you doing? plans for argentina made?
18:58 cait but i hope it's oging to work out
18:58 cait hm some things yes, others ont
18:57 bag how you doing today? School going well?
18:57 bag cait: HI
18:57 cait hi bag
18:56 wahanui privet, bag
18:56 bag magnuse: HI
18:56 bag afternoon y'all
18:44 cait hm i don't remember a bug there right now :(
18:43 indradg can't see any bugfix on that in 3.14.09 relnotes... so no clue
18:43 cait :)
18:42 indradg cait: time a renewal is done - lastreneweddate, where as date_due gets the new renewed to datetime... and I find that to be working correctly in 3.14.09.
18:37 cait ok
18:37 cait heh
18:37 tcohen have a nice weekend :-D
18:37 cait tcohen: something else?
18:35 cait if that makes any sense
18:35 cait the time a reneal was done and the time a renwal was renewed to
18:35 cait hm i think 2 different hings
18:35 druthb tcohen is quality! Definitely he would pass qa.
18:34 indradg strangely, in my 3.14.09 instance I can't reproduce the error that he says impacts his 3.14.08
18:34 cait looking really good
18:34 tcohen awesome cait
18:34 cait tcohen: you passed qa :)
18:34 indradg i was looking at renewal datetimes because of this lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-September/040677.html
18:33 cait thank you
18:33 indradg possible will check
18:33 cait hm maybe a 3.16
18:33 cait but this part didn't change i think
18:33 indradg i couldnt reproduce it on 3.14.09
18:33 cait and it quite certainly predates the ajax patches
18:32 indradg ok
18:32 cait hm i am not sure, but i probably ran into it on an older version first
18:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account
18:31 indradg cait: does bug 11298 impact only the master?
18:30 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: this is what i'm using" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/194
18:01 indradg weekend starts tomorrow :)
17:26 tcohen gmcharlt: have a minute?
17:26 cait sure!
17:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records
17:25 cait bug 12788
17:25 tcohen cait: would you consider reviewing 12788? it has two signoffs
17:24 tcohen ok?
17:23 cait do you want to pick a not too evil bug? :)
17:23 cait i am looking for some fun tonight
17:23 cait hi tomas
17:23 tcohen hi cait
17:00 cait should just be searchable :)
17:00 cait the 400s show up in the facets, which they shouldn't
17:00 Mahdi thanks!
17:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records
17:00 cait bug 12788
17:00 cait the bug is, sec
17:00 cait had to look it up :)
16:59 wahanui rumour has it IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore
16:59 cait IncludeSeeFromInSearches
16:59 Mahdi which preference is it
16:59 Mahdi OK i can wait for that
16:59 cait around end of this month
16:59 Mahdi when is that reelase expected
16:58 cait and as there is a small bug, i'd wait for 3.16.4 to do that
16:58 Mahdi ok
16:58 cait but you need to reindex completely
16:58 cait there is a preference that will make that work
16:58 Mahdi e.g. i am searching for all books by author X, but in the catalog search i enter X's nickname which in his authority record is present in the 400 field
16:57 Mahdi it doesn't seem to work
16:57 Mahdi it works great if you are searching for authorities, but when searching for the library record directly is it possible for koha to allow the different names
16:56 Mahdi hi - i had a question about having alternative names (or spellings) in the authority 400 field
16:54 cait [off] and finally can bake again!
16:54 cait [off] yep :) kitchen shopping is fun :)
16:49 gmcharlt [off] a certain QAM? :)
16:49 cait [off] guess who gets a new kitchen? :D
16:49 cait much better!
16:49 cait :)
16:48 gmcharlt (that loud enough for you?)
16:48 * oleonard has a couple more hours of work-week left :)
16:48 gmcharlt BOOM
16:48 oleonard Friday is always quiet around here
16:46 cait everyone has started their weekend already? :)
16:20 * cait waves
15:49 tcohen enjoy Joubu !
15:45 oleonard You too Joubu!
15:44 Joubu have a good w-e #koha!
15:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12582: DBRev 3.17.00.021 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=abdf7194e2a9bc5e2c497e3d4d241c2e8de40ffc> / Bug 12582 - Control of branch displayed in search results linked to HomeOrHoldingBranch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8458630a7aa5209701f224f0d159b604af350f7> / Bug 12330: [QA Follow-up] Consistency between opac-search and staff client <http://git.koha-
15:11 tcohen yay shibb!
15:11 matts Bye !
15:11 matts Okay, let's enjoy the week-end now !
15:09 matts Hmm too bad ! But I'll find something else for you to test, don't worry :)
15:04 reiveune bye
15:01 ashimema Happy to take a look at anything else though.. I deffo owe you one for the shib testing ;)
15:01 ashimema I'm struggling to find a customer to test your inventory patch i'm afraid.. we've not used it here so I'm not really in a good position to test it :(
15:00 ashimema awesome.. thanks matts.. your a star
14:59 ashimema I had that issue on caits server too
14:59 ashimema lol
14:54 matts it's a strange strange experience to use Vim in german... :)
14:46 matts ashimema, I've successfully tested the last shib patches, I'm signing them off.
14:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6149: (qa followup) sysprefs should be alphabetically sorted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69d6dabc475dfa747d15576f6396e77a7d71c42> / Bug 6149: DBRev 3.17.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a36f70e35afc3dcdba34678c3b18d960606aa16> / Bug 6149 - Follow-up [syspref] - Stopwords for Result Highlighting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git
14:02 ashimema doesn't sound especially celar to me.. but equially i can't think of anything better at the minute ;)
14:02 Joubu in France we call that "consultation/reading on site"
14:01 ashimema hmm.. let me have a think..
14:01 ashimema I see..
14:01 Joubu (and the item has to be returned at the end of the day)
14:01 Joubu The feature allows to check an item out to a patron but the patron is not allowed to go out with it.
14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , In-House Use
14:00 Joubu oleonard, gmcharlt, jcamins, ashimema: Could one of you (native speaker:)) tell me if the "In house use" term is correct for bug 10860.
14:00 ashimema ?
13:31 oleonard Font rendering in Chrome is ... off... today.
11:06 bgkriegel :)
11:02 ashimema ;)
11:02 indradg good $TZ_SPECIFIC_GREETINGS bgkriegel, ashimema :)
10:55 ashimema afternoon ;)
10:55 bgkriegel morning
10:46 * magnuse wishes he was looking forward to argentina...
10:18 cait have a nice weekend all
10:09 cait and looking forward to argentina and doing lots there
10:09 Joubu yes, so reading room is maybe more meaningful here
10:09 cait i hope it will be better again after 26th
10:09 cait i am sorry i am not much help right now :(
10:09 Joubu these patches are started to be really hard to rebase...
10:08 cait it happens in ILL to - the other library sends the book, but says it can only be used in the readng room/under supervision
10:08 cait i think maybe a similar concept to what we have here
10:08 Joubu ok thanks, I will ask them
10:07 Joubu in France we call that "consultation/reading on site"
10:07 cait i have to leave early today - will be back next week - maybe jcamins or gmcharlt could be helpful here
10:07 cait heh :)
10:06 Joubu :p
10:06 Joubu It does not!*
10:06 Joubu ...
10:06 Joubu cait: erk ok thanks. I don't smell good at all...
10:05 cait probably good to ask an english speaking academic library person :)
10:04 cait I think my thought was that maybe we should use differnt terms if it means different thigns/approaces
10:04 cait where the book is linked to a patron, but for some reason you are not allowed to take it out of the building, for example because it's a rare book
10:03 cait what he described in the second part would be a reading room use here... lesesaalnutzung
10:03 cait hm what david said in comment 26
10:02 cait and anonymous as it is in koha now - you scan things that people have put on the tables to see what was used
10:02 cait i think in-house use is without a checkout maybe
10:01 cait hm maybe we shoudl ask a native speaker
09:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , In-House Use
09:55 Joubu cait: I am not sure to understand the difference between the "in-house use" and "reading room" terms (cf bug 10860).
08:52 cait :)
08:52 * magnuse breathes a sigh of relief
08:50 viktorsarge_ The only time we've had problems with the server magnuse is running for us was when we were flooded with traffic and it had to be filtered in the firewall.
08:49 viktorsarge_ No magnuse Your server have been behaving very well for over a year now :)
08:44 magnuse viktorsarge_: not my server, i hope?
08:39 viktorsarge_ Hi cait - sorry for slow response. On 2G line here trying to solve a little server mishap.
08:35 dcook Ciao
08:34 dcook And on that note, I should run :)
08:34 dcook I'd suggest re-running xsltproc and then taking a look at the indexes in Zebra via yaz-client
08:34 dcook Don't know for sure without backtracking some of the inputs and such but overall I don't see anything too bad standing out
08:34 ashimema fantastic..
08:34 dcook ashimema: Yeah, I think it looks all right
08:31 dcook That does sound the same
08:31 dcook Mmm
08:31 cait i think the idea there is similar, you want to have the $a and $x and whatever in one phrase so can search exactly
08:30 dcook Mmm because koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl looks so funky?
08:30 cait with the work jared did on tracings?
08:30 cait i wonder if we haven't something similar for subjects yet
08:30 ashimema it's more whether the xsl is correct that i'm not able to do yet ;)
08:30 ashimema but i 'think' it makes sense to me..
08:30 ashimema takes a moment to get your head aroud..
08:30 dcook It's not all subfields. Just the ones that you want.
08:29 dcook Oh I see...
08:29 dcook Not sure that I see the utility of index_group_of_subfields
08:28 dcook She's stopping at the pub. Maybe I'll take 5 more minutes..
08:27 * ashimema just read up ;)
08:27 ashimema but maybe another time.. sounds like you need to go see th wife ;)
08:26 ashimema cool.. i'de be interested to hear your thoughts..
08:26 dcook Ah, and I think I just remembered how they work
08:26 dcook I was thinking a bit about phrase registers vs word registers today...
08:25 dcook Hmm, would have to poke around more
08:24 dcook I would think <xslo:text> </xslo:text> would probably work instead
08:24 dcook <xslo:value-of select="substring(' ', 1, 1)"/> is weird
08:24 ashimema tcohen helped me finally get my head around that yesterday
08:23 ashimema it's darn clever really.. taking a relatively straight forward xml format to a pretty hard to digest xsl
08:23 ashimema indeed..
08:23 dcook I think koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xs is a bit funky in general of course
08:23 ashimema but for 'new' features of it like this groups declarative I think some docs would be very suefull
08:23 dcook biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl looks ok
08:22 ashimema it's pretty self explanitory when you read it..
08:22 ashimema anyone know if there's any clear documentation for the format of *-koha-indexdefs.xml knocking around..
08:22 dcook Hmm
08:21 ashimema which reminds me..
08:21 ashimema indexing a group of subfields as a phrase sounds like genius to me ;)
08:20 ashimema it's more the changes to koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl i'm really interseted in someone looking at
08:19 * dcook is the worst husband right now
08:19 dcook I like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable about XSL these days :)
08:19 ashimema wondered if you could cast your eye over patch 3
08:19 dcook I think I have a bookmark somewhere to an IFLA site which sort of shows the UNIMARC "standard"
08:19 ashimema you sounded knolledgable about xsl..
08:18 dcook But I don't deal in UNIMARC
08:18 dcook Well, I followed the link.
08:18 dcook ashimema: Not even a little bit
08:18 dcook Are those US dollars?
08:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9352 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Needs Signoff , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 7XX
08:18 ashimema dcook.. did you look at bug 9352 at all?
08:18 dcook Hmm, some of those prices aren't dissimilar to here
08:17 * ashimema goe sto read it
08:17 magnuse yeah, i try to show it to people as often as i can
08:17 dcook Ah, that's the one that you showed me before, magnuse, I think
08:16 ashimema but i've lost the stamina for that at the moment.
08:16 magnuse but it's not maye quite as expensive as some people make it out to be: http://www.garfors.com/2013/06/the-most-expensive-city-in-world.html
08:16 ashimema I'd want to kayak a few crazy rivers if I was over there ;)
08:16 ashimema I need to get my fitness back up before heading out..
08:16 ashimema yup..
08:16 magnuse yeah, we are kind of expensive
08:15 dcook ashimema: Yeah, magnuse has shared some prices... yikes.
08:15 dcook But alas... moved to a different prairie city instead. Silly, dcook.
08:15 ashimema i's not just getting there.. it's really expensive to stay ther too dcook
08:15 dcook I almost went to Iceland to study Old Icelandic/Norse literature
08:15 * dcook needs to find a(n affordable) way to get to Norway
08:15 * magnuse would say so
08:15 ashimema I've been wanting to visit norway for years..
08:15 ashimema I hear it's very beautiful too
08:14 ashimema I missed one.. beautiful..
08:14 dcook :D
08:14 ashimema hehe
08:14 magnuse hm, sounds like we need to have a kohacon here :-)
08:14 ashimema I wouldn't say the country is especially cute either magnuse.. mountainous, cold, wet.. ;)
08:14 dcook I think I have about 1/8 Norwegian ancestry so I guess I know the descendants of Norwegians :p
08:14 dcook I don't think I actually know any Norwegians besides magnuse
08:13 magnuse ashimema: i meant as a country, not as individuals ;-)
08:13 dcook While I love having new clients, it makes it tougher to do community stuff :/
08:13 dcook Well, by still looking I mean I've had zero time to look at it lately
08:13 dcook At this point, I'm still looking at query building :)
08:12 ashimema It noticibly improved search.. so I used it ;)
08:12 dcook Your domming efforts are appreciated :)
08:12 ashimema i never read the bit-1 spec ;)
08:12 dcook Mmm
08:12 ashimema so I made it my mission some time back to try and 'domify' any patches that came in without dom counterparts ;)
08:12 dcook I guess we've had a fair number of people on it for some time now too
08:12 dcook DOM is pretty awesome
08:12 dcook I'm sure it does work, but perhaps not according to the Bib-1 semantic spec, yes?
08:11 ashimema all our customers have been DOM for ages..
08:11 ashimema I know it works, as a fiar chunk of our customers are using that patch ;)
08:11 ashimema I didn't change any of the indexes he'd chosen to go inot the any.
08:11 dcook Mmm
08:11 ashimema all I did though was run mathieu's patches through the grs1 to dom mill..
08:10 ashimema I did indeed..
08:10 dcook Didn't you write the DOM patch? :p
08:10 ashimema Anywhere is just too cumbersome.
08:10 dcook For sure
08:10 ashimema already filtered down to a 'sensible' set of fields..
08:10 dcook Agreed
08:10 ashimema I felt the 'Any' index was a better keyword index than the 'Anywhere' one..
08:08 dcook Of course you could get lots of crap in there too..
08:08 dcook But keyword at least
08:08 dcook Well, maybe not "traditional"
08:08 dcook I think it's much more what people think of as a traditional "keyword" index
08:08 dcook I do like the idea of an anywhere index though
08:06 ashimema lol
08:06 dcook Limit of 32 params, but... I don't know why a person would need so many
08:06 dcook I've used LibXML to pass in params when processing XSLTs in Perl before. It works a treat.
08:05 dcook And the xsltproc param thang
08:05 dcook I remember the thing about the semantics
08:05 dcook ashimema: I vaguely recall them :D
08:05 dcook thanks, cait. You too :)
08:04 cait have a nice weekend dcook
08:03 ashimema interesting comments you've made on the anywhere index bug dcook.
08:03 ashimema lol
08:01 dcook Ok, I should go home. When did it become 6?
08:01 dcook Friendly and giant!
07:59 ashimema certainly friendly though magnuse.. ;)
07:59 ashimema morning cait
07:57 cait lol
07:57 ashimema small and cute might not be the operative words there magnuse ;)
07:36 magnuse yeah, we're small and cute ;-)
07:32 dcook metropolitan area. Whatever.
07:32 dcook Well, not as a city. As a muncipal area.
07:31 dcook Sydney, as a city, has about 4.5 million :S
07:31 dcook hi by the way :)
07:31 dcook magnuse: I had no idea there were only about 5 million people in Norway!
07:30 ashimema Morning #koha
07:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:29 magnuse @wunder boo
07:29 magnuse bonjour Joubu
07:25 Joubu hello #koha
07:23 cait hi indradg and viktorsarge_
07:18 viktorsarge_ Hi :)
07:14 magnuse hiya indradg and viktorsarge_
06:53 mveron hi indradg :-)
06:53 indradg hi cait, magnuse mveron
06:51 magnuse hiya cait and mveron
06:50 mveron hi magnuse :-)
06:50 cait guten morgen magnuse :)
06:50 * magnuse waves
06:49 cait hi mveron :)
06:49 mveron hi cait :-)
06:47 cait hi #koha
06:37 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 32.0°C (11:50 AM IST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
06:37 indradg @wunder Kolkata
06:36 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 16.7°C (8:36 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:36 mveron @wunder Allschwil
06:36 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 15.2°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:36 mveron @wunder Basel
06:35 mveron Good worldtime #koha
06:28 wahanui hello, reiveune
06:28 reiveune hello
03:49 * indradg waves
03:49 indradg morning #koha
00:43 huginn dcook: khall was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 57 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <khall> if you want to write it, I'll so it! I think the code is much fresher in your mind right now than mine ; )
00:43 dcook @seen khall
00:23 tcohen cr*py router + ultrabook wifi board = problems