Time  Nick         Message
20:18 wahanui      rumour has it 952 is the field used for items in Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
20:18 Mahdi        where's 952
20:18 Mahdi        i only see 942
20:17 Mahdi        e.g in the 9s tab
20:17 Mahdi        what's the big heading?
20:17 bag          if you click on the big heading do they "then" appear
20:12 Mahdi        some of the tags i mean, that are defined on the framework
20:12 Mahdi        hi - when adding a marc record, why is it some of the fields don't show up
20:00 wahanui      somebody said reports library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
20:00 bag          reports library?
19:48 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12788: (followup) minor optimization with proper tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ead0d88c74bd0efba2d2ca0123c51ff2b6cf25fc> / Bug 12788: facets calculation should skip 100 if ind1=z <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eefef42abda81e84e42d4a3951684092045886fa> / Bub 12788: (regression test) refactor facet extraction code to allow testing <http://git.koha-
19:40 tcohen       nice weekend
19:39 tcohen       bye #koha
19:03 bag          cait++
19:03 * cait       is looking forward to the asado too
19:03 cait         :)
19:03 bag          it will be up there at some point cait
19:03 tcohen       :D
19:03 cait         you should put that on the wiki :)
19:02 cait         cool :)
19:02 bag          I arrive buttcrack earlier in the morning on the 7th (12:37am) and I'm there until the 13th
19:02 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "jcamins: latest" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195
19:01 tcohen       :-D
19:01 bag          I'm going to smoke some ribs this weekend so I can start getting inshape for the asado (tcohen) :)
19:01 bag          yup got tickets and got my hotel for argentina
18:59 cait         how are you doing? plans for argentina made?
18:58 cait         but i hope it's oging to work out
18:58 cait         hm some things yes, others ont
18:57 bag          how you doing today?  School going well?
18:57 bag          cait: HI
18:57 cait         hi bag
18:56 wahanui      privet, bag
18:56 bag          magnuse: HI
18:56 bag          afternoon y'all
18:44 cait         hm i don't remember a bug there right now :(
18:43 indradg      can't see any bugfix on that in 3.14.09 relnotes... so no clue
18:43 cait         :)
18:42 indradg      cait: time a renewal is done - lastreneweddate, where as date_due gets the new renewed to datetime... and I find that to be working correctly in 3.14.09.
18:37 cait         ok
18:37 cait         heh
18:37 tcohen       have a nice weekend :-D
18:37 cait         tcohen: something else?
18:35 cait         if that makes any sense
18:35 cait         the time a reneal was done and the time a renwal was renewed to
18:35 cait         hm i think 2 different hings
18:35 druthb       tcohen is quality!  Definitely he would pass qa.
18:34 indradg      strangely, in my 3.14.09 instance I can't reproduce the error that he says impacts his 3.14.08
18:34 cait         looking really good
18:34 tcohen       awesome cait
18:34 cait         tcohen: you passed qa :)
18:34 indradg      i was looking at renewal datetimes because of this lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-September/040677.html
18:33 cait         thank you
18:33 indradg      possible will check
18:33 cait         hm maybe a 3.16
18:33 cait         but this part didn't change i think
18:33 indradg      i couldnt reproduce it on 3.14.09
18:33 cait         and it quite certainly predates the ajax patches
18:32 indradg      ok
18:32 cait         hm i am not sure, but i probably ran into it on an older version first
18:31 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account
18:31 indradg      cait: does bug 11298 impact only the master?
18:30 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "jcamins: this is what i'm using" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/194
18:01 indradg      weekend starts tomorrow :)
17:26 tcohen       gmcharlt: have a minute?
17:26 cait         sure!
17:25 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records
17:25 cait         bug 12788
17:25 tcohen       cait: would you consider reviewing 12788? it has two signoffs
17:24 tcohen       ok?
17:23 cait         do you want to pick a not too evil bug? :)
17:23 cait         i am looking for some fun tonight
17:23 cait         hi tomas
17:23 tcohen       hi cait
17:00 cait         should just be searchable :)
17:00 cait         the 400s show up in the facets, which they shouldn't
17:00 Mahdi        thanks!
17:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records
17:00 cait         bug 12788
17:00 cait         the bug is, sec
17:00 cait         had to look it up :)
16:59 wahanui      rumour has it IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore
16:59 cait         IncludeSeeFromInSearches
16:59 Mahdi        which preference is it
16:59 Mahdi        OK i can wait for that
16:59 cait         around end of this month
16:59 Mahdi        when is that reelase expected
16:58 cait         and as there is a small bug, i'd wait for 3.16.4 to do that
16:58 Mahdi        ok
16:58 cait         but you need to reindex completely
16:58 cait         there is a preference that will make that work
16:58 Mahdi        e.g. i am searching for all books by author X, but in the catalog search i enter X's nickname which in his authority record is present in the 400 field
16:57 Mahdi        it doesn't seem to work
16:57 Mahdi        it works great if you are searching for authorities, but when searching for the library record directly is it possible for koha to allow the different names
16:56 Mahdi        hi - i had a question about having alternative names (or spellings) in the authority 400 field
16:54 cait         [off] and finally can bake again!
16:54 cait         [off] yep :) kitchen shopping is fun :)
16:49 gmcharlt     [off] a certain QAM? :)
16:49 cait         [off] guess who gets a new kitchen? :D
16:49 cait         much better!
16:49 cait         :)
16:48 gmcharlt     (that loud enough for you?)
16:48 * oleonard   has a couple more hours of work-week left :)
16:48 gmcharlt     BOOM
16:48 oleonard     Friday is always quiet around here
16:46 cait         everyone has started their weekend already? :)
16:20 * cait       waves
15:49 tcohen       enjoy Joubu !
15:45 oleonard     You too Joubu!
15:44 Joubu        have a good w-e #koha!
15:33 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12582: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=abdf7194e2a9bc5e2c497e3d4d241c2e8de40ffc> / Bug 12582 - Control of branch displayed in search results linked to HomeOrHoldingBranch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8458630a7aa5209701f224f0d159b604af350f7> / Bug 12330: [QA Follow-up] Consistency between opac-search and staff client <http://git.koha-
15:11 tcohen       yay shibb!
15:11 matts        Bye !
15:11 matts        Okay, let's enjoy the week-end now !
15:09 matts        Hmm too bad ! But I'll find something else for you to test, don't worry :)
15:04 reiveune     bye
15:01 ashimema     Happy to take a look at anything else though.. I deffo owe you one for the shib testing ;)
15:01 ashimema     I'm struggling to find a customer to test your inventory patch i'm afraid.. we've not used it here so I'm not really in a good position to test it :(
15:00 ashimema     awesome.. thanks matts.. your a star
14:59 ashimema     I had that issue on caits server too
14:59 ashimema     lol
14:54 matts        it's a strange strange experience to use Vim in german... :)
14:46 matts        ashimema, I've successfully tested the last shib patches, I'm signing them off.
14:41 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6149: (qa followup) sysprefs should be alphabetically sorted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69d6dabc475dfa747d15576f6396e77a7d71c42> / Bug 6149: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a36f70e35afc3dcdba34678c3b18d960606aa16> / Bug 6149 - Follow-up [syspref] - Stopwords for Result Highlighting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git
14:02 ashimema     doesn't sound especially celar to me.. but equially i can't think of anything better at the minute ;)
14:02 Joubu        in France we call that "consultation/reading on site"
14:01 ashimema     hmm.. let me have a think..
14:01 ashimema     I see..
14:01 Joubu        (and the item has to be returned at the end of the day)
14:01 Joubu        The feature allows to check an item out to a patron but the patron is not allowed to go out with it.
14:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , In-House Use
14:00 Joubu        oleonard, gmcharlt, jcamins, ashimema: Could one of you (native speaker:)) tell me if the "In house use" term is correct for bug 10860.
14:00 ashimema     ?
13:31 oleonard     Font rendering in Chrome is ... off... today.
11:06 bgkriegel    :)
11:02 ashimema     ;)
11:02 indradg      good $TZ_SPECIFIC_GREETINGS bgkriegel, ashimema :)
10:55 ashimema     afternoon ;)
10:55 bgkriegel    morning
10:46 * magnuse    wishes he was looking forward to argentina...
10:18 cait         have a nice weekend all
10:09 cait         and looking forward to argentina and doing lots there
10:09 Joubu        yes, so reading room is maybe more meaningful here
10:09 cait         i hope it will be better again after 26th
10:09 cait         i am sorry i am not much help right now :(
10:09 Joubu        these patches are started to be really hard to rebase...
10:08 cait         it happens in ILL to - the other library sends the book, but says it can only be used in the readng room/under supervision
10:08 cait         i think maybe a similar concept to what we have here
10:08 Joubu        ok thanks, I will ask them
10:07 Joubu        in France we call that "consultation/reading on site"
10:07 cait         i have to leave early today - will be back next week - maybe jcamins or gmcharlt could be helpful here
10:07 cait         heh :)
10:06 Joubu        :p
10:06 Joubu        It does not!*
10:06 Joubu        ...
10:06 Joubu        cait: erk ok thanks. I don't smell good at all...
10:05 cait         probably good to ask an english speaking academic library person :)
10:04 cait         I think my thought was that maybe we should use differnt terms if it means different thigns/approaces
10:04 cait         where the book is linked to a patron, but for some reason you are not allowed to take it out of the building, for example because it's a rare book
10:03 cait         what he described in the second part would be a reading room use here... lesesaalnutzung
10:03 cait         hm what david said in comment 26
10:02 cait         and anonymous as it is in koha now - you scan things that people have put on the tables to see what was used
10:02 cait         i think in-house use is without a checkout maybe
10:01 cait         hm maybe we shoudl ask a native speaker
09:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , In-House Use
09:55 Joubu        cait: I am not sure to understand the difference between the "in-house use" and "reading room" terms (cf bug 10860).
08:52 cait         :)
08:52 * magnuse    breathes a sigh of relief
08:50 viktorsarge_ The only time we've had problems with the server magnuse is running for us was when we were flooded with traffic and it had to be filtered in the firewall.
08:49 viktorsarge_ No magnuse Your server have been behaving very well for over a year now :)
08:44 magnuse      viktorsarge_: not my server, i hope?
08:39 viktorsarge_ Hi cait - sorry for slow response. On 2G line here trying to solve a little server mishap.
08:35 dcook        Ciao
08:34 dcook        And on that note, I should run :)
08:34 dcook        I'd suggest re-running xsltproc and then taking a look at the indexes in Zebra via yaz-client
08:34 dcook        Don't know for sure without backtracking some of the inputs and such but overall I don't see anything too bad standing out
08:34 ashimema     fantastic..
08:34 dcook        ashimema: Yeah, I think it looks all right
08:31 dcook        That does sound the same
08:31 dcook        Mmm
08:31 cait         i think the idea there is similar, you want to have the $a and $x and whatever in one phrase so can search exactly
08:30 dcook        Mmm because koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl looks so funky?
08:30 cait         with the work jared did on tracings?
08:30 cait         i wonder if we haven't something similar for subjects yet
08:30 ashimema     it's more whether the xsl is correct that i'm not able to do yet ;)
08:30 ashimema     but i 'think' it makes sense to me..
08:30 ashimema     takes a moment to get your head aroud..
08:30 dcook        It's not all subfields. Just the ones that you want.
08:29 dcook        Oh I see...
08:29 dcook        Not sure that I see the utility of index_group_of_subfields
08:28 dcook        She's stopping at the pub. Maybe I'll take 5 more minutes..
08:27 * ashimema   just read up ;)
08:27 ashimema     but maybe another time.. sounds like you need to go see th wife ;)
08:26 ashimema     cool.. i'de be interested to hear your thoughts..
08:26 dcook        Ah, and I think I just remembered how they work
08:26 dcook        I was thinking a bit about phrase registers vs word registers today...
08:25 dcook        Hmm, would have to poke around more
08:24 dcook        I would think <xslo:text> </xslo:text> would probably work instead
08:24 dcook        <xslo:value-of select="substring(' ', 1, 1)"/> is weird
08:24 ashimema     tcohen helped me finally get my head around that yesterday
08:23 ashimema     it's darn clever really.. taking a relatively straight forward xml format to a pretty hard to digest xsl
08:23 ashimema     indeed..
08:23 dcook        I think koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xs is a bit funky in general of course
08:23 ashimema     but for 'new' features of it like this groups declarative I think some docs would be very suefull
08:23 dcook        biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl looks ok
08:22 ashimema     it's pretty self explanitory when you read it..
08:22 ashimema     anyone know if there's any clear documentation for the format of *-koha-indexdefs.xml knocking around..
08:22 dcook        Hmm
08:21 ashimema     which reminds me..
08:21 ashimema     indexing a group of subfields as a phrase sounds like genius to me ;)
08:20 ashimema     it's more the changes to koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl i'm really interseted in someone looking at
08:19 * dcook      is the worst husband right now
08:19 dcook        I like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable about XSL these days :)
08:19 ashimema     wondered if you could cast your eye over patch 3
08:19 dcook        I think I have a bookmark somewhere to an IFLA site which sort of shows the UNIMARC "standard"
08:19 ashimema     you sounded knolledgable about xsl..
08:18 dcook        But I don't deal in UNIMARC
08:18 dcook        Well, I followed the link.
08:18 dcook        ashimema: Not even a little bit
08:18 dcook        Are those US dollars?
08:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9352 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Needs Signoff , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 7XX
08:18 ashimema     dcook.. did you look at bug 9352 at all?
08:18 dcook        Hmm, some of those prices aren't dissimilar to here
08:17 * ashimema   goe sto read it
08:17 magnuse      yeah, i try to show it to people as often as i can
08:17 dcook        Ah, that's the one that you showed me before, magnuse, I think
08:16 ashimema     but i've lost the stamina for that at the moment.
08:16 magnuse      but it's not maye quite as expensive as some people make it out to be: http://www.garfors.com/2013/06/the-most-expensive-city-in-world.html
08:16 ashimema     I'd want to kayak a few crazy rivers if I was over there ;)
08:16 ashimema     I need to get my fitness back up before heading out..
08:16 ashimema     yup..
08:16 magnuse      yeah, we are kind of expensive
08:15 dcook        ashimema: Yeah, magnuse has shared some prices... yikes.
08:15 dcook        But alas... moved to a different prairie city instead. Silly, dcook.
08:15 ashimema     i's not just getting there.. it's really expensive to stay ther too dcook
08:15 dcook        I almost went to Iceland to study Old Icelandic/Norse literature
08:15 * dcook      needs to find a(n affordable) way to get to Norway
08:15 * magnuse    would say so
08:15 ashimema     I've been wanting to visit norway for years..
08:15 ashimema     I hear it's very beautiful too
08:14 ashimema     I missed one.. beautiful..
08:14 dcook        :D
08:14 ashimema     hehe
08:14 magnuse      hm, sounds like we need to have a kohacon here :-)
08:14 ashimema     I wouldn't say the country is especially cute either magnuse.. mountainous, cold, wet.. ;)
08:14 dcook        I think I have about 1/8 Norwegian ancestry so I guess I know the descendants of Norwegians :p
08:14 dcook        I don't think I actually know any Norwegians besides magnuse
08:13 magnuse      ashimema: i meant as a country, not as individuals ;-)
08:13 dcook        While I love having new clients, it makes it tougher to do community stuff :/
08:13 dcook        Well, by still looking I mean I've had zero time to look at it lately
08:13 dcook        At this point, I'm still looking at query building :)
08:12 ashimema     It noticibly improved search.. so I used it ;)
08:12 dcook        Your domming efforts are appreciated :)
08:12 ashimema     i never read the bit-1 spec ;)
08:12 dcook        Mmm
08:12 ashimema     so I made it my mission some time back to try and 'domify' any patches that came in without dom counterparts ;)
08:12 dcook        I guess we've had a fair number of people on it for some time now too
08:12 dcook        DOM is pretty awesome
08:12 dcook        I'm sure it does work, but perhaps not according to the Bib-1 semantic spec, yes?
08:11 ashimema     all our customers have been DOM for ages..
08:11 ashimema     I know it works, as a fiar chunk of our customers are using that patch ;)
08:11 ashimema     I didn't change any of the indexes he'd chosen to go inot the any.
08:11 dcook        Mmm
08:11 ashimema     all I did though was run mathieu's patches through the grs1 to dom mill..
08:10 ashimema     I did indeed..
08:10 dcook        Didn't you write the DOM patch? :p
08:10 ashimema     Anywhere is just too cumbersome.
08:10 dcook        For sure
08:10 ashimema     already filtered down to a 'sensible' set of fields..
08:10 dcook        Agreed
08:10 ashimema     I felt the 'Any' index was a better keyword index than the 'Anywhere' one..
08:08 dcook        Of course you could get lots of crap in there too..
08:08 dcook        But keyword at least
08:08 dcook        Well, maybe not "traditional"
08:08 dcook        I think it's much more what people think of as a traditional "keyword" index
08:08 dcook        I do like the idea of an anywhere index though
08:06 ashimema     lol
08:06 dcook        Limit of 32 params, but... I don't know why a person would need so many
08:06 dcook        I've used LibXML to pass in params when processing XSLTs in Perl before. It works a treat.
08:05 dcook        And the xsltproc param thang
08:05 dcook        I remember the thing about the semantics
08:05 dcook        ashimema: I vaguely recall them :D
08:05 dcook        thanks, cait. You too :)
08:04 cait         have a nice weekend dcook
08:03 ashimema     interesting comments you've made on the anywhere index bug dcook.
08:03 ashimema     lol
08:01 dcook        Ok, I should go home. When did it become 6?
08:01 dcook        Friendly and giant!
07:59 ashimema     certainly friendly though magnuse.. ;)
07:59 ashimema     morning cait
07:57 cait         lol
07:57 ashimema     small and cute might not be the operative words there magnuse ;)
07:36 magnuse      yeah, we're small and cute ;-)
07:32 dcook        metropolitan area. Whatever.
07:32 dcook        Well, not as a city. As a muncipal area.
07:31 dcook        Sydney, as a city, has about 4.5 million :S
07:31 dcook        hi by the way :)
07:31 dcook        magnuse: I had no idea there were only about 5 million people in Norway!
07:30 ashimema     Morning #koha
07:29 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:29 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:29 magnuse      bonjour Joubu
07:25 Joubu        hello #koha
07:23 cait         hi indradg and viktorsarge_
07:18 viktorsarge_ Hi :)
07:14 magnuse      hiya indradg and viktorsarge_
06:53 mveron       hi indradg :-)
06:53 indradg      hi cait, magnuse mveron
06:51 magnuse      hiya cait and mveron
06:50 mveron       hi magnuse :-)
06:50 cait         guten morgen magnuse :)
06:50 * magnuse    waves
06:49 cait         hi mveron :)
06:49 mveron       hi cait :-)
06:47 cait         hi #koha
06:37 huginn       indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 32.0°C (11:50 AM IST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
06:37 indradg      @wunder Kolkata
06:36 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 16.7°C (8:36 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:36 mveron       @wunder Allschwil
06:36 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 15.2°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:36 mveron       @wunder Basel
06:35 mveron       Good worldtime #koha
06:28 wahanui      hello, reiveune
06:28 reiveune     hello
03:49 * indradg    waves
03:49 indradg      morning #koha
00:43 huginn       dcook: khall was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 57 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <khall> if you want to write it, I'll so it! I think the code is much fresher in your mind right now than mine ; )
00:43 dcook        @seen khall
00:23 tcohen       cr*py router + ultrabook wifi board = problems