Time Nick Message 23:34 eythian ah right 23:33 indradg he couldn't get git install to work 23:33 indradg i had requested him to check out 12815, as he is a native speaker of Malayalam (an indian language), he asked me for squeeze-dev package 23:31 eythian oh yeah? 23:31 indradg i do know why Vimal is looking for squeeze-dev 23:31 papa hi there! 23:31 eythian hi papa 23:30 eythian heh 23:30 indradg eythian, I almost *knew* that answer, but it's best to hear it from the horse's mouth ;-) 23:04 dcook One of these days I'll make one.. 22:58 rangi ah :) 22:56 tcohen joking 22:55 rangi hmm? 22:55 tcohen #koha, please don't flood the dev meetings, that's not polite :-P 22:34 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_2.2014-09-02-22.05.log.html 22:34 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_2.2014-09-02-22.05.txt 22:34 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_2.2014-09-02-22.05.html 22:34 huginn Meeting ended Tue Sep 2 22:34:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 22:34 tcohen #endmeeting 22:34 tcohen #agreed next meeting is scheduled for next weke 22:34 tcohen end meeting then 22:33 rangi yep, sounds good 22:32 tcohen we ahve a big agenda 22:32 tcohen agreed? 22:32 tcohen ok, next meeting is scheduled next week same day/time 22:30 tcohen some day :-D 22:30 tcohen #info eythian will put a demo server for people to test ES 22:25 eythian one of these days I'll put up a demo server for experimentation. 22:25 eythian i.e. allowing them to be indexed and searched. 22:25 eythian Yeah, ES is back working. Refactoring it to work with authorities at the moment 22:24 wahanui privet, eythian 22:24 eythian hi 22:24 tcohen ok 22:24 rangi so he might have some comments 22:24 rangi thats pretty much all eythian now, and he just arrived 22:23 tcohen you're working on ES, comments on that? 22:23 tcohen #topic "Big stuff we are working on" 22:22 tcohen ok, moving on 22:22 tcohen #info they need to get tested so we finally push the CCSR/prog deprecation 22:21 tcohen #info rangi mentioned bugs 12655 12657 22:21 tcohen #topic Bugs 22:21 tcohen ok, next 22:20 rangi hmmm not off the top of my head 22:20 tcohen do u have any coding guideline you'd like to add? 22:20 tcohen #topic Additions to Coding Guidelines 22:19 rangi yep 22:19 tcohen ok, moving on? 22:19 tcohen btw, any advise/help is welcome 22:19 rangi yeah i wouldnt push it until after the tests 22:18 tcohen we might put your proposal on hold? 22:18 tcohen so, until that deadline (19/09) 22:18 rangi sweet 22:18 tcohen gmcharlt proposed an approach and I volunteered to help him 22:17 rangi excellent 22:17 tcohen on part 1, we have set a deadline to have regression tests 22:17 tcohen it makes sense, i'd let us go back 22:17 rangi so i would be too scared to push it to master without a way to get it back out .. if that makes sense? 22:16 rangi i dont believe developers will catch all the problems 22:16 rangi because unfortunately 22:16 rangi then if we get close to the release and realise the utf8 stuff cant go in .. you dont have to try to revert it all out, you just replace master with the other branch 22:15 rangi and apply patches to both branches from now on 22:15 rangi is branch master, push the utf8 stuff to master .. push the other branch up 22:14 tcohen the only missing piece is having a good framework for catching regressions 22:14 rangi and this might be a dumb idea 22:14 rangi what id do 22:14 rangi excellent 22:14 tcohen and it is complete now 22:14 tcohen they've set a wiki with what they've reached so far 22:14 tcohen #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development 22:13 rangi yep 22:13 tcohen they made CGI use -utf8, the templates to be set to UTF8, etc 22:13 rangi cool 22:13 tcohen Joubu, dpavlin and zeno have been working on doing things right regarding encoding handling 22:12 tcohen #topic Cleanup Koha UTF-8 22:12 tcohen ok, that's it, moving on 22:12 tcohen that has me writing awful stuff (i.e. xsl) 22:11 tcohen and there's a regression regarding IncludeSeeFromInSearches 22:11 tcohen not that difficult, just need time to sit and do it 22:11 rangi sweet 22:11 tcohen i'm working on having unit tests for it 22:10 tcohen code can be checked here https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/tree/bug_11232_facets_from_zebra 22:10 tcohen it is already functional 22:10 rangi excellent 22:10 tcohen i mean, making facets get retrieved from zebra 22:10 rangi cool 22:10 rangi i think after those two and a couple more days testing we should be ready to merge that 22:10 tcohen ok, I also mentioned that i was working to win a bet 22:09 tcohen i'll put them on my todo list for tomorrow, thanks rangi 22:08 rangi the rest are pushed on the MM_OPAC/theme_dep 22:08 rangi for the prog/ccsr deprecation 22:08 rangi 12655 12657 22:08 rangi there are still 2 patches that need sign off 22:08 tcohen yeah 22:08 tcohen heh 22:08 tcohen As I said earlier, i've started pushing new features that are already on PQA queue 22:08 rangi kinda on topic 22:07 tcohen #topic RM 3.18 comments 22:07 tcohen #info agenda is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_2_September_2014 22:06 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba 22:06 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT 22:05 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_2' 22:05 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:05 huginn Meeting started Tue Sep 2 22:05:51 2014 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:05 tcohen #startmeeting Koha Developer IRC meeting, 2 September 2014 - part 2 22:05 rangi yep 22:05 tcohen shall we? 22:05 tcohen sorry, i was busy 22:04 tcohen yes 22:02 wahanui i guess meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe 22:02 rangi hmm meeting time? 21:37 tcohen *creepy? 21:37 tcohen xsl that generates xsl out of xml, is... just... 21:33 bag cait++ 21:33 bag good night cait 21:33 bag oh man too slow 21:33 cait don't forget the meeting in half an hour ;) 21:32 cait good night all 21:32 cait giving up on it for tonight 21:32 cait for the distance study course 21:32 cait i failed to solve one of my asignments :( 21:32 cait heh i need that 21:30 bag cait++ 21:30 bag one of my favorite things to do - is to make cait laugh :D 21:30 cait lol 21:30 bag get him a butter knife 21:30 bag that is kyle :) 21:30 bag :) 21:30 cait he lost me there 21:29 cait something mystic about date objects 21:29 cait khall knows - he was the one who found it worked in chromium but not in firefox 21:29 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 21:29 wahanui okay, bag. 21:29 bag @later tell khall bag: there is also a known bug about it not showing overdues in red in firefox - that's for ajax datatables 21:29 cait but that's the only one i am aware of right now - i think i also added one for showing lost in checkouts - but not sure it did that before, so that might be an enh 21:29 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 21:29 bag @later tell khall bag: there is also a known bug about it not showing overdues in red in firefox 21:28 cait bag: there is also a known bug about it not showing overdues in red in firefox 21:28 bag :D 21:28 bag pianohacker: ajax circ please :P 21:28 bag AH there he is 21:28 pianohacker working on it bag :) 21:27 bag ryan snipes iirc 21:27 bag I would guess heather or ryan 21:27 rangi maybe heather then 21:27 bag rangi: I think that's nekls that is hosting that site 21:26 rangi its filling up with spam but i dunno who to contact 21:26 rangi http://koha-na.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=30&from= 21:26 rangi yeah 21:26 cait so you'd do a comparison with and without? 21:26 rangi like firebug 21:26 rangi there are tools to time in a browser 21:26 cait but how do you describe: it feels slow 21:25 cait i wrote it in my ocmments when testing the dev 21:25 cait i saw it too 21:25 cait i think it#s really hard to report 21:25 rangi bag: do you know who looks after the koha-na.org wiki? 21:25 bag cool yeah rangi and cait as you see them - ping me or kyle - we'll jump on that :) 21:24 bag Go christopher :) 21:24 bag That's rad!!! 21:24 bag oh cool - testing patches for 3.16.3 * 9 Christopher Brannon 21:23 rangi its only been released 6 days, id expect to see more over the next few weeks 21:23 bag are you seeing reports in other places? 21:23 bag :) 21:22 rangi then it can be fixed 21:22 rangi what we need is a repeatable test case 21:22 cait agreed, just saying people notice and i also noticed similar in testing 21:22 rangi and i think we should disable comments 21:22 rangi cos comments on a blog are pretty much useless 21:22 cait and 3.16.3 is not very old yet 21:22 rangi to actually submit a bug, with the steps how to replicate 21:22 cait http://koha-community.org/koha-3-16-3-released/ 21:21 rangi we need to get that person 21:21 cait there are comments on the blog 21:21 bag agreed 21:21 rangi the not speeding everything up is fine, but the slowing things down, on somethign already slow .. something we need to deal with 21:21 * cait agrees 21:21 rangi i think the problem is people are reporting slowdowns .. so we need to address that for 3.16.x 21:20 bag so it only speeds up some parts - but there are still many parts that still need more 21:19 bag heh 21:19 bag right it still loads the tables - it's only a part 1 of a part MANY :P 21:19 cait because not everything is loaded by ajax, jsut the checkouts table, not error messages, warnings etc 21:19 cait that's part of the problem, it still reloads the whole page for a lot of things 21:19 rangi its stupid about most things 21:18 rangi probably IE is stupid about it too 21:18 cait no 21:18 cait i think if everytime you have a dialog coming up 21:18 bag are you not able to do that? in my testing of the ajax datatables - I could do things and checkout etc - just had to wait for the tables to catch up 21:17 rangi yeah, we should be able to make that happen 21:17 bag yeah the thing is that you should still be able to circ - even if the table hasn't loaded? 21:17 rangi someone needs to test the patches submitted and sign off tho (cant be catalyst) 21:17 rangi im sure it can be fixed, and yes that will help a lot 21:17 bag rangi: hopefully for 3.18 we are able to load it all on plack 21:17 cait worries 21:16 cait it worried me quite a bit 21:16 cait i am not sure it was a good decision to put it in a maint release 21:16 rangi and then the fully faster one for 3.18 or 3.20 depending on when it gets submitted (ie we still need to fix it for 3.16) 21:16 rangi if we could get the base case as fast as before, then it would be an overall improvement, same as before for normal circ, faster for big borrowers 21:15 bag go pianohacker go :) 21:15 bag we need pianohacker to submit his work :D 21:15 bag ajax datatables will not help that 21:15 bag yes circ is slow 21:14 rangi yeah and slows it down in most other cases :( 21:14 bag hmm yeah that's a bummer - all it does is speed up the circ time if the person hads loads of accountlines, of circs, or holds 21:12 cait yeah - also some outstanding bugs 21:11 rangi hmm we need to do something about the ajax circ stuff being slow :( 21:09 rangi cool :) 21:08 bag rangi: http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/09/02/everylibrary-donation/ 21:08 tcohen hi bag 21:08 bag heya tcohen 21:02 tcohen hi rangi 21:00 rangi hi tcohen 20:56 tcohen hi kiwis 20:41 cait hi mtompset 20:40 mtompset I should scroll back and see what I missed. 20:40 mtompset -- jcamins too. :) 20:39 mtompset Greetings, rangi cait. :) 19:46 cait morning rangi 19:44 rangi morning 19:09 tcohen bye #koha 18:46 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Meadow Lake, New York, New York is 33.4°C (1:50 PM EDT on September 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 18:46 jcamins @wunder 11375 18:32 wnickc thanks cait and oleonard 18:32 wnickc not a big deal just had to check 18:31 wnickc ah, but we have it set to 'library the item was checked out from' 18:31 oleonard wnickc: It records "OPACRenew" instead of a branch code in statistics 18:30 cait thx oleonard 18:30 cait yes :) 18:30 oleonard Are you thinking of the OpacRenewalBranch system preference cait? 18:29 cait sec 18:29 cait but it depends a bit on how your koha is configured 18:29 cait hm yes 18:28 wnickc is there any way to tell a patron-opac renewal apart from a staff-desk renewal? 17:03 * cait waves 16:57 * bag just posting cause I think it's pretty cool and important project 16:57 bag http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/09/02/everylibrary-donation/ 16:21 Joubu qa pov 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12669 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Template process failed: undef error - Invalid local time for date in time zone" 16:21 Joubu bug 12669 needs additional POV too 16:16 Joubu Have to go too, see you tomorrow 16:14 ztajoli Bye to all 16:13 ashimema I'm not sure we have the plugins in our mediaiwki to lock a page.. 16:11 cait i need to run, bbl 16:11 cait colin suggested a different way to handle the fields, maybe add a comment on that? 16:11 cait maybe ashimema can help with the wiki 16:11 cait sorry Joubu, need to leave 16:10 ztajoli on bug 12830, I have the same opinon of Colin: Good stuff breaking down C4::acquisition into more manageable parts 16:09 ztajoli I have check VAT spec and for us is OK 16:09 Joubu cait: How can I "freeze" the vat spec? I don't know if everybody had a look... :-/ 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12830 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the order-related code into its own module 16:08 Joubu Did someone have a look at bug 12830? I introduce a new module for order: Koha::Acquisition::Order. Does it make sense for everyone? 16:07 cait sorry again for getting distracted by the phone call - and thx ashimema++ for helping out 16:07 ColinC +1 16:07 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_1.2014-09-02-15.03.log.html 16:07 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_1.2014-09-02-15.03.txt 16:07 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_1.2014-09-02-15.03.html 16:07 huginn Meeting ended Tue Sep 2 16:07:05 2014 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 16:07 cait #endmeeting 16:07 cait #agreed Next meeting will be (given agreement from second meeting today) - September 9th, 15 + 22 UTC 16:06 ztajoli +1 16:06 Joubu +1 16:06 cait UTC 16:06 cait that would be september 9th, 15 + 22 16:06 cait #topic Agree on time for next meeting 16:05 tcohen same day/time 16:05 * tcohen agrees 16:05 cait ok... same day? 16:05 tcohen the next otherwise 16:05 ashimema same time next week ;) 16:05 wahanui cait: I forgot next week 16:05 cait forget next week 16:05 wahanui hmmm... next week is project week 16:05 tcohen next week 16:05 tcohen there's a lot to talk about in the pipe 16:05 cait tcohen: when for the next meeting? 16:05 cait i think we need to wrap up for tody 16:05 ashimema but there's the more general cases out there.. 16:05 tcohen ok, i have to leave 16:04 ashimema in this case it was only about DT.. 16:04 ashimema There's a bunch of stuff still to discuss in the dev meeting trello board.. 16:04 Joubu ashimema: does your question only about DT ? 16:04 * cait tends to agree 16:04 ashimema I think maybe save that debate for the next meeting.. 16:02 tcohen endpoint/routing code should be clean and unimportant in terms of complexity 16:01 tcohen all business logic should be packaged and testable 16:01 Joubu svc/members/search 16:01 ashimema (we have similar problems for the api for instance).. but I thought I'd try and grab the datatables one before either plce become to prevatlent. 16:01 Joubu ashimema: C4::Utils::Datatables uses a script in svc 16:01 ashimema C4/Utils/Datatables and /srv are the two places so far i've spotted this issue. 16:00 ashimema it's hard to qa such a thing withough a rule to refer to in the guidelines somewhere. 16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 16:00 ashimema currently but 9811 puts the backend code for the datatables ajax code in one place.. and bug 11703 puts it in a completely different place.. 16:00 Joubu ashimema: yes please :) 16:00 tcohen ashimema: elaborate? 15:59 ztajoli No problem if you write her 15:59 ashimema tcohen, Joubu.. do either of you have any thoughts on standardising where code should live? 15:59 Joubu (Paola, sorry) 15:59 ztajoli So I speak also for here 15:59 cait ztajoli: please tell her we love her work :) 15:59 ztajoli Paole doesn't like to be present on chat 15:59 ashimema serverside handling of datatables.. 15:59 Joubu ztajoli: Paole does a wonderful job on signoff 15:58 cait please keep up the good work 15:58 cait yep sign offs are quite important 15:58 cait ztajoli++, paola++ :) 15:58 ztajoli no 15:58 Joubu ztajoli: Actually it's the most important bottleneck! 15:58 cait ztajoli: does paola have a nickname? 15:57 ashimema regarding 'default select branch' and how it should be handled? 15:57 cait ashimema: maybe better for the next meeting :) 15:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Default to logged in library for Overdue notice/status triggers 15:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Default to logged in library for circ rules and notices & slips 15:57 ashimema cait.. I think you also wnated to raise a question about bug 11625 adn bug 11747 15:57 ztajoli Generaly speaking we can work on 'sign-off' 15:56 ashimema :) 15:56 Joubu ashimema: yes, of course :) 15:56 ztajoli As I see the first to sign-off is 12827 15:56 Joubu ashimema: the data will be pref values, library name (or not), volumetry (patrons, records) 15:55 ashimema Indeed.. but I still need to check that it's ok to collect such data at all.. 15:55 ztajoli I plan to test GST / VAT. 15:55 Joubu ashimema: It can be anonymous 15:54 ashimema I'm keen on 11926 Joubu.. but would need to discus with some customers/colleagues first regarding data collection policies 15:53 Joubu #info Feedback needed on bugs 11518, 12826 and 12603 15:52 Joubu I would like to know if some companies/libraries is candidate for testing it 15:52 cait ok, i am getting a bit lost about teh #info s - please add one yourself for those i missed 15:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Render community koha statistic usages 15:52 Joubu Something else, I am going to wake bug 11926 up 15:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests 15:51 ashimema the also affect bug 12603 I beleive 15:50 ashimema the last followup patches.. 15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , GST / VAT rewrite - plumbing 15:50 Joubu I need feedbacks on bug 12826 15:50 cait #action ashimema is going to add a note about Columns configuration (bug 10212) to the wiki (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DataTables_HowTo) 15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 15:50 ashimema any dbic experts care to weight in on bug 11518 15:50 ashimema http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DataTables_HowTo is the page I'm going to add to 15:49 cait acq will be great 15:49 cait i think it will only be useful when we start using it for other tables besides currencies :) 15:49 cait a note to the devle list maybe too? 15:49 ashimema I'll do that cait. 15:49 cait ashimema: that a good idea 15:49 ashimema :) yeay Joubu 15:48 ashimema hmm.. maybe add reference to it on the datatables wiki page. 15:48 cait Joubu: i made a note 15:48 Joubu ashimema: I will try to integrate the columns conf for tables in the acq module on rewriting the tax stuff. 15:48 cait i think letting people knwo it's there is a first step 15:48 Joubu cait: 11395 and others 15:47 ashimema not sure how to achieve this 15:47 cait Joubu: coudl you send me a reminder about the bug numbers? or leave a comment on the first one? 15:47 Joubu I sent patches for bugs in architecture/plumbing. The need signoff. 15:47 ashimema i.e. lets get developers using the column configuration stuff more widely 15:46 cait heh yes 15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10212 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Columns configuration for tables 15:46 ashimema cait: you wanted to promote bug 10212 15:46 Joubu cait: NQA 15:45 wahanui well, the current status is "Failed QA" 15:45 cait what's the current status? 15:45 cait i think marcelr started but then got stuck somewhere 15:45 tcohen which bug is that Joubu 15:45 cait #info bug 12788 SO - Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 15:45 * Joubu stops to complain 15:45 Joubu but I am asking for 10 months 15:45 Joubu We should fix the issue about marc mod template 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 15:44 wahanui certainly is confusing.. thanks for bringing ashimema's attention to it. 15:44 Joubu cait: certainly. 15:44 tcohen i'd like to mention bug 12788, which solves a regression on 3.16 15:44 cait you can also do so in the next topic :) 15:44 ashimema Cheers Joubu.. i'll pay special attention to those 15:44 cait anyone wants to talk about his/her favourite bug? :) 15:44 Joubu ashimema: problems can be on search results (facets, resort, etc.) 15:43 cait #topic Bugs 15:43 tcohen move on 15:43 cait if noone has a proposition, can we move on to the next topic? ;) 15:43 * cait hasn't seen that 15:42 tcohen 2 spaces for tt files :-P 15:42 cait #topic Additions to coding guidelines 15:42 cait do we have something for the coding guidelines? 15:42 ashimema shall we move on 15:42 * cait thinks we should send the misses cookies 15:41 ashimema the misses won't like me much.. think it's gonna have to reside as an evenings job.. but certainly important one to get in. 15:41 cait #action cait will try to help, but won't have much time the next 2 weeks or a bit longer 15:41 cait :P 15:41 * cait doesn't see another window 15:41 ashimema just me then.. 15:41 cait #action ashimema will start QA on it 15:40 ashimema I'm quietly coersing cait to collaborate on qa for it in another window ;) 15:40 ashimema I'll take a look at qa on it.. to start with anyways.. 15:40 cait or a bit longer 15:40 cait I don't have the time currently - probably not much time the next 2 weeks 15:39 ztajoli In same time anyone do generic QA on the patch ? 15:39 cait #info deadline for utf-8 unit tests is 19 September 15:39 tcohen cait: yes 15:39 ashimema info it cait.. then they can't forget ;) 15:39 cait the deadline is for unit tests? 15:39 ashimema sounds good to me tcohen.. 15:39 ashimema 19/09/2014 15:39 cait september 19 15:39 wahanui 0.473684210526316 15:39 cait 9/19? 15:38 Joubu tcohen: You are the RM :) 15:38 tcohen Joubu: ? 15:38 tcohen ok? 15:37 tcohen we will set a deadline of 9/19 for this work 15:37 cait #action gmcharlt will write unit tests 15:36 ztajoli If it ok, insert in master to test 15:36 ashimema :) 15:35 gmcharlt Joubu: tcohen and I are in a sidebar conversation about timing, one moment 15:35 ztajoli QA based on biblibre branch 15:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 15:35 ztajoli So I put the bug 11944 as 'Signed OFF' 15:34 * ashimema hans back the reighns 15:34 ashimema cait your back.. 15:34 tcohen i'll resign my beers jcamins, to have some time for the utf8 unit tests 15:34 ashimema is there anything to agree on regarding the above then.. or shall we move on. 15:34 cait sorry had a call to answer - do i have to do something? reading back as fast as I can 15:34 ashimema caits on the phone so isn't moving the meeting forward at the minute.. 15:33 ashimema #info gmcharlt & tcohen are going to write some tests for utf8 regressions 15:31 Joubu if the changes are pushed, all developers will catch errors 15:31 Joubu if we need UT to catch regression, we can wait for UT 15:30 Joubu gmcharlt: Are you sure we need UT before pushing the patches? 15:30 * tcohen volunteers to help gmcharlt 15:30 tcohen ok 15:30 gmcharlt tcohen: we need full-stack testing, IMO 15:30 gmcharlt Joubu: I will write tests; I realize I have been saying that all summer, but I /do/ want to get the improvements into 3.18 and will work to make that happen 15:29 ashimema mb4 is the solution to that. 15:29 ashimema in short.. when mysql implimented utf8 first time around.. they got it worng and only included like half the character set.. 15:29 tcohen do we need to test through apache our cgi scripts? can't we just use a sensible IO layer ? 15:29 ashimema Joubu: https://mathiasbynens.be/notes/mysql-utf8mb4 15:29 gmcharlt Joubu: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/charset-unicode-utf8mb4.html 15:29 gmcharlt ashimema: not a silly question; at first glance, doing that seems sensible 15:28 Joubu ashimema: utf8mb8? 15:27 ashimema to inlcude the entire character set.. not mysql's abridged one? 15:27 ashimema silly question.. if we're doing the big db shift to utf8_unicode_ci.. should we not make the jump to utf8mb8_unicode_ci instead? 15:27 Joubu Unit tests are requested for 2 months and nobody wrote them. So I am not sure we will find someone to write them. 15:26 gmcharlt - collation in SQL query results 15:26 gmcharlt - search patrons with both NFC and NFD forms 15:26 gmcharlt - searching patrons with/without diacritics 15:25 gmcharlt certain function tests 15:25 tcohen what else? 15:25 tcohen pages retireving binary data 15:25 tcohen so we need to test plain templates, templates using template plugins 15:24 gmcharlt tcohen: IMO, yes 15:24 gmcharlt or, for dev machines, perhaps by taking advantage of multiple-Apache-instance support on Deb/Ubuntu 15:23 tcohen gmcharlt: should those tests be prepared to be run on jenkins? 15:23 gmcharlt that could be managed either with a self-contained config 15:23 * mtompset steps out for 1.5 hours. 15:23 gmcharlt tcohen: yes 15:23 gmcharlt yeah, given that we have several places where binary input needs to be uploaded 15:23 tcohen gmcharlt: that needs apache running, right? 15:22 ColinC If adding a use cgi -utf8 be clear on the cases where you definitely do not want to use that 15:21 gmcharlt that automates passing and receiving text and verifies that it comes back with appropriate coding 15:21 ashimema Joubu.. that was exactly the sort of answer i was hoping for ;) 15:21 gmcharlt as far as testing is concerned ... what we need is testing via LWP::UserAgent or the equivalent 15:20 tcohen I think C4::Templates should be tested somehow 15:20 gmcharlt OK 15:20 Joubu easy to add to the qa script 15:20 Joubu ashimema: we should add use cgi -utf8 15:19 ashimema do we need to introduce any further processes to qa.. or the coding guidelines to ensure we don't hit this issue again. 15:19 tcohen i volunteered to do something about it, but didn't manage to have the time 15:19 Joubu no, I don't know 15:19 ztajoli But to do QA ? 15:19 ashimema I was about to ask that tcohen.. 15:19 tcohen that is my main concern 15:19 tcohen has anyone thought on how to have regression tests for this? 15:19 Joubu ztajoli: you can switch the status to signoff, don't update the patches. 15:17 ztajoli So, I don't know what to do now 15:17 Joubu The patches should be pushed to master quickly. If we wait 1month before the 3.18 release, it will be too late and too dangerous (too late to fix bugs). 15:16 cait ... support call :( 15:16 Joubu I maitain the branch, it's up-to-date. It's easier to maintain that the patches on the bug report 15:16 Joubu tcohen: I am not it is relevant to add the SO status on all the patches 15:16 tcohen gmcharlt: around? 15:15 ztajoli but it a wide change 15:15 tcohen can we have it signed off? 15:15 ztajoli In my opinion is 'signed off' as result 15:15 tcohen involved people have extensibly tested the results 15:15 cait ztajoli: you said finished testing - is it signed off or failed qa? :) 15:15 ztajoli We can sign-off with master for last test if is all OK 15:15 tcohen the patches are working 15:14 wahanui morning is a state of cat 15:14 bag morning 15:14 ztajoli We do the test using biblibre specific git branch. 15:13 cait ztajoli: can you sign off or are there specific problems to be solved still? 15:13 tcohen ok, so RM comments on this 15:13 ztajoli http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development 15:13 Joubu (still signoff by dpavlin and ztajoli) 15:13 cait #info wiki page: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development 15:13 ztajoli the result is on the wiki 15:13 cait #link bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 15:12 cait #info Bug 11944 Cleanup Koha UTF-8 15:12 Joubu tcohen: the status is needs signoff 15:12 ztajoli I can say that Paola Rossi and I we have finish to test it 15:12 tcohen ok 15:12 wahanui i guess the current status is "Failed QA" 15:12 tcohen what is the current status? 15:12 Joubu I don't have something new to tell 15:12 cait what's the status? :) 15:12 Joubu hum? 15:11 tcohen Joubu 15:11 cait #topic Cleanup UTF-8 15:11 tcohen ^^^^^ that 15:11 tcohen ok, moving on 15:11 cait move on? 15:11 tcohen hi jcamins 15:11 cait #info tcohen has working code for retrieving facets from zebra, will write unit tests until Thursday 15:10 cait #info agenda http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_2_September_2014 15:10 cait hm bit late but 15:09 reiveune bye 15:09 mtompset Because it will affect how we hide things. :) 15:09 tcohen other thing that i'm worried about is the UTF-8 work, but we have space to discuss later 15:09 mtompset I will definitely test 11232 once you post it all up and good. :) 15:09 tcohen i expect people related to Search code to step in 15:08 cait ashimema++ too 15:08 jcamins #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services 15:07 tcohen its a super secret bet i put 15:07 * jcamins waves. 15:07 ashimema It also feels like it's giving more relevant facets to me.. but i'm no librarian.. was going to ask a customer to take a look 15:07 cait why thursday? 15:07 tcohen :-D 15:07 tcohen Joubu: i have time, until thursday 15:07 ashimema It 'feels' quicker.. but I've not yet done any proper measurements.. 15:07 tcohen once i have unit tests for it, i'll attach to bz 15:07 Joubu (tcohen: arf, too bad, you didn't win beers :p) 15:06 tcohen what i've got so far is here: https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/tree/bug_11232_facets_from_zebra 15:06 cait ashimema: is it speedy? 15:06 * ashimema has tested tcohens zebra faceting.. so far so good.. 15:06 cait yay! 15:06 tcohen which is already functional, but i'm missing unit tests for it 15:06 cait tcohen++ 15:06 tcohen i'd also like to mention that i've been working on retrieving facets from zebra 15:06 ashimema tcohen++ 15:06 atheia #info Alex Sassmannshausen, PTFS Europe, UK 15:05 tcohen notably SRU 15:05 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries 15:05 tcohen i've started pushing new features that were sitting on the PQA queue 15:05 wahanui hello, atheia 15:05 atheia hello 15:05 wahanui bonjour, tcohen 15:05 tcohen hi 15:04 cait handing over to tcohen :) 15:04 druthb #info D Ruth Bavousett, in and out, no one of any importance 15:04 cait #topic RM 3.18 comments 15:04 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, BibLibre, France 15:03 ColinC #info Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe, UK 15:03 mtompset #info Mark Tompsett, Canada 15:03 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba 15:03 ztajoli #info Zeno Tajoli, CINECA (Italy) 15:03 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe, QA Team 15:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany, QAM 15:03 cait please introduce yourself like wahanui with #info 15:03 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 15:03 cait #topic Introductions 15:03 cait welcome :) 15:03 ashimema there are a bunch of 'extra' topic on the trello.. but I suggest we stick to the wiki agenda to start with. 15:03 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'koha_developer_irc_meeting__2_september_2014___part_1' 15:03 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:03 huginn Meeting started Tue Sep 2 15:03:04 2014 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03 cait #startmeeting Koha Developer IRC meeting, 2 September 2014 - part 1 15:03 mtompset my $Plate4Cait = CGI::Cookie->new(); 15:02 * ashimema get baking 15:02 cait and well written test plans 15:02 * cait demands to be paid in cookies :) 15:02 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_2_September_2014 15:02 cait someone has me a link to the agenda then? 15:01 tcohen cait: you're the best 15:01 * mtompset agrees with ashimema. :) 15:01 * ashimema smiles nicely at cait 15:01 ashimema cait.. your so good at chairing ;) 15:01 tcohen i remember being hammered for proposing unit test writing guidelines ;) 15:01 ashimema we can discuss after//as part of the meeting ;) 15:01 * tcohen is interested on that ashimema 15:00 ashimema the t/lib/Mocks.pm seems a nice module to have.. though it's still very small.. 15:00 ashimema for the stuff I'm talking about.. 15:00 cait meeting time? who chairs? :) 15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, t::lib::Mocks tries to deal with syspref but doesn not manage to 15:00 ashimema Bug 10298 14:59 tcohen ah 14:59 tcohen which bug? 14:59 ashimema if i'de fund that earlier my shib test would have been easier to write ;) 14:59 ashimema It's only when I started looking at this bug I found /t/lib/ to start with to be honest.. 14:59 cait hm not sure - it feels to get a lot more :) 14:59 * tcohen agrees 14:58 tcohen because, lets be honest, we don't spend a lot of time on writing unit tests 14:58 ashimema I'd almost prefer a contribution to Test::DBIx::Class::Factory that added the foreign key populating stuff that's missing.. rather than us inventing a new wheel again. 14:58 tcohen assuming we cannot have people working on duplicating everything 14:58 tcohen but i see it as a shortcut 14:57 tcohen :-D 14:57 tcohen i don't agree with the principle 14:57 ashimema there are two reasons I stopped looking at TestBuilder tcohen.. I couldn't work out what the followup schema dbic related patch was meant to do and how it related to another bug.. and I was still working out for myself whether I agree with the principle of it overall ;) 14:57 mtompset Actually, I like the notion of randomized data, but not just randomized. I want comprehensive. 14:56 cait like show the last tag or something? 14:56 cait hm is there a nice way to see from a commit which version includes it in git? 14:56 cait and it's still 5 mins 14:55 ashimema we're just debating mtompset ;) 14:55 cait you seemed so busy 14:55 ashimema not yet.. 14:55 mtompset Did we actually start the meeting already?! 14:55 ashimema I'd like to get some more of them on side ;) 14:55 ashimema but there was a vocal push back on it from a number of developer.. 14:55 ashimema indeed we can.. 14:55 ashimema it simply adds randomized data to the database for you.. it does not go any way towards mocking 14:55 tcohen we can rename it and preserve yohann's attribution 14:54 ashimema it should be called datagenerator or somthing.. 14:54 ashimema tesbuilder is a bad name for that module as it stands.. 14:54 tcohen if we have randomized data 14:54 tcohen my feeling is that testbuilder has a good point on having both approaches considered 14:54 ashimema else you may miss db related breakages.. for instance when the schema changes slightly 14:53 ashimema though rangi did sell me on the idea of really every test should be written to run in both modes.. with and without the db.. 14:53 tcohen how long it will take 14:53 tcohen not sure 14:53 tcohen can we have that? 14:53 tcohen and have proper db access layer tests 14:53 ashimema I totally agree.. 14:53 tcohen ideally, all DB interaction should be mocked 14:52 tcohen we are doing integration tests against a DB 14:52 tcohen and what are we test5ing 14:52 ashimema but there's a big dissagreement on it. 14:52 tcohen understand what we need to test 14:52 ashimema testbuilder would help some way in lowering the barrier again.. 14:52 tcohen :-D 14:52 tcohen we need a methodology 14:51 cait i think it also makes you realize what is needed 14:51 cait i agree about just kohastructure 14:51 tcohen that raises the barrier, thou 14:50 ashimema I also agree.. 14:50 tcohen jenkins should start with just kohastructure 14:50 tcohen tests should not depend on any data on the DB 14:50 ashimema that bug I got you to run the tests for the other day was a prime example of badly written lagacy tests in my mind 14:49 ashimema I would far rather see the data used for testing begin completely randomised.. so we know that feature don't jsut work for a very specific case. 14:48 ashimema I agree.. it's great that we're getting better test coverage.. but I'm really not sure how good our tests actually are as yet ;) 14:48 ashimema there's todays meeting in wiki form. 14:48 ashimema having said that though.. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_2_September_2014 14:48 tcohen and they should be run in a random order 14:47 ashimema the wiki in it's current form isn't especially usefull to be honest. 14:47 tcohen i think we are not testing side effects at all 14:46 tcohen oh, i recall rangi asked that the meetings are listed in a specific wiki page 14:46 ashimema related to the testbuilder discussion? 14:46 ashimema oh? 14:44 tcohen been thinking on our testing framework 14:44 tcohen i'm fine ashimema 14:43 ashimema how are you tcohen? 14:43 ashimema it's been one of those days today.. 14:43 ashimema I thought I'd manage to miss it. 14:41 tcohen 19 minutes 14:41 ashimema somthing tells me there's a dev meeting soon? 14:11 mtompset oleonard++ # handy, dandy info. 14:11 mtompset Thanks for the tip, oleonard. 14:11 mtompset Okay. 14:10 oleonard Current version is 4.1.4 14:09 oleonard Answer: 3.5.8 14:09 oleonard mtompset: Besides looking at the files themselves, you can load a page like koha-news.pl and click the ? icon in the editor toolbar 14:09 mtompset Because I'd like to submit a bug report: language="javascript" is obsolete. 14:08 mtompset Does anyone (read oleonard or some other expert) know how to tell which version of TinyMCE we have in Koha? 13:59 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. 13:58 tcohen hi mtompset 13:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12205: (regression tests) HoldsInNoissuesCharge controls GetMemberAccountBalance... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5faef12f68671a0e6460e219c98c86ff86e478be> / Bug 12205: DBRev 3.17.00.018 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=063bf5d9fa08a332a92e16d79eee16d264ca281e> / Bug 12205 : Add a system preference allowing hold charges to block circ <http://git.koha-com 13:01 francharb :) 13:01 francharb If I'm the only one, the problem is my side. Ouf! 13:00 francharb I have a meeting. I'll check all this after 13:00 * magnuse gotta run 13:00 francharb I'm going to check 13:00 magnuse ah 13:00 francharb I think so magnuse 13:00 magnuse francharb: were the templates updated as well? 13:00 francharb oleonard, thanks I'm going to dig deaper 12:58 tcohen hi francharb 12:58 francharb I'm on master branch 12:58 francharb hum... 12:58 oleonard I don't have that problem francharb 12:56 francharb cait, ^ 12:55 francharb I just updated my installation and noticed it 12:55 francharb Has someone noticed that every search box in master's pro interface fall back on the catalogue search ? 12:53 francharb Hello all 12:26 wahanui morning is a state of the cait 12:26 tcohen morning! 11:58 oleonard Hi #koha 11:48 jcamins :) 11:48 jcamins tcohen: it's all your fault that my mate is cold. 09:22 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded. 09:22 indradg @later tell eythian you might like to answer that http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-September/040654.html :-) 09:19 huginn indradg: eythian was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 27 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <eythian> there's a whole series of videos, they're very funny 09:19 indradg @seen eythian 08:00 Hopla i had one with more dupplicates also 08:00 Hopla i do save them but on reentering the 2nd field is back 07:58 Hopla i have 2 cataloging source ... try to delete one but it returns 07:58 Hopla if i cleabn it up they come back 07:57 Hopla wel it are imported records from Z39.50 and they seem to duplicate sertain fields 07:56 indradg Hopla: the deleted records do not seem to be deleted? 07:54 Hopla i have 4 files who duppplicate themselves (the cataloging source field and the title) if i delete it and reopen it comes back ... anny tips ? 07:53 Hopla Hey Koha 07:50 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 07:50 cait @later tell gmcharlt - can you please consider 10519 for 3.16? 07:48 cait hi magnuse 07:45 cait does that work for someoneß 07:45 cait hm trying to make a custom sugg status show up in 3.16.2 07:45 magnuse kia ora cait 07:45 cait hi #koha 07:09 Viktor And good morning (change to greeting relevant for your timezone) to all! 07:08 Viktor Hi magnuse 07:06 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 26.0°C (12:20 PM IST on September 02, 2014). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 07:06 indradg @wunder Kolkata 07:05 indradg hi back :) 07:05 matts hi ! 07:05 magnuse hiya matts 07:05 magnuse hiya Viktor and indradg 07:05 magnuse *very* weird weather in Bodø this summer: hot and sunny and very little wind 06:57 dcook Agreed 06:57 petter Here too, weird weather everywhere these days it seems 06:55 petter yes 06:53 dcook Surely it's nicer than 14... such weird weather this year 06:52 * dcook looks outside 06:52 dcook petter: You're in Tokyo? 06:52 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (4:30 PM EST on September 02, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 06:52 dcook @wunder syd 06:49 magnuse at least you're not hugging a radiator? 06:48 petter hehe, not bad actually 06:48 magnuse gah 06:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Tokyo, Japan is 28.0°C (3:30 PM JST on September 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:48 magnuse @wunder tokyo 06:48 magnuse heh 06:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (6:30 PM NZST on September 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 06:48 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz 06:48 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:48 magnuse @wunder wellington 06:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 06:47 magnuse @wunder boo 06:42 reiveune hi magnuse dcook 06:42 magnuse hiya dcook and reiveune 06:42 magnuse hei petter 06:40 dcook salut :) 06:39 reiveune hello 06:39 dcook hey everyone to whom I haven't yet said hey :) 06:35 petter morn magnus! 06:33 * magnuse waves 06:25 indradg afternoon #koha 06:21 * ashimema heads down to breakfast 06:20 ashimema lol.. bit of casual racism here.. it's catching :P 06:19 ashimema I know how my cousins turned out ;) 06:19 ashimema lol.. that's what scares me. 06:17 dcook ashimema: She'll be speaking fluent Australian in no time like the 5 years old here :p 06:16 ashimema though not especially approriate with the 5 year old daughter behind me ;) 06:16 petter let's keep religion out of it 06:16 petter good 06:16 petter god morning 06:16 ashimema that vid is brilliant eythian.. 06:11 ashimema mornin' #koha 05:52 eythian there's a whole series of videos, they're very funny 05:52 dcook I think we have a book somewhere around the house with a lot of words as well.. 05:52 dcook Fortunately, my wife has taught me a lot 05:51 dcook eythian: hehe 05:51 eythian later 05:51 cait be back later, have a nce evening eythian and dcook 05:43 eythian whew, OK, tomorrow I can get authorities indexing. Then everything will asplode, I'm sure. 05:39 eythian it's possible :) 05:39 eythian hi cait 05:39 cait eythian: the bugs are just well hidden? ;) 05:30 eythian http://youtu.be/DHQRZXM-4xI <-- dcook, this might be helpful 05:30 dcook Hope it keeps working :) 05:30 eythian heh 05:30 * dcook tries to think of something else heartening to say 05:29 dcook It was probably broken :) 05:29 dcook Hmm, maybe it was just an illusion 05:25 eythian that's always a concern. 05:25 eythian crikey, I just refactored the whole biblio access class I created so I can share code for indexing authorities easier, and it seems to have worked first time. 04:42 dcook night tcohen 04:41 tcohen night 03:55 dcook night, jcamins 03:48 dcook ^ 03:47 tcohen wizzyrea++ 03:47 wizzyrea never enough beer. 03:46 tcohen hi jcamins 03:46 tcohen hey 03:45 jcamins My work here is done. 03:45 wahanui Don't go, jcamins. Stay a while. Stay forever. 03:45 jcamins Well, good night. 03:45 jcamins Excellent. 03:44 dcook That thought might've crossed my mind, jcamins ;) 03:44 dcook hehe 03:44 jcamins dcook: you like working out! Carrying beer cases can be your exercise! 03:43 dcook Alas, when there is a case in the house, it disappears quickly between the wife and I 03:43 dcook In the past, it was a bit too heavy to get back to my house, but now I'm closer to the bottle shop :D 03:43 dcook eythian: Agreed 03:40 eythian dcook: you made an amateur mistake, you should buy by the case. 03:39 jcamins FYI 03:39 jcamins Too bubbly for me. 03:38 dcook Alas, I just bought beer on Friday and now it's all gone :( 03:38 dcook beer! 03:09 tcohen beer rules mortals will 02:28 tcohen and on top of that, you can check bit.ly/1x3wdJT 02:27 dcook I'll take a look anyway :) 02:27 dcook Looks like it's already been signed off? Yay! 02:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 02:26 tcohen there is bug 12788 02:26 dcook tcohen: Actually, I do have some time atm 02:22 trea greetings dcook 02:22 dcook yo trea 02:22 dcook Oh wait... I just remembered something else I have to do... still! 02:22 trea o/ 02:21 dcook I might actually look at that now.. 02:21 dcook What's the bug number again? 02:21 dcook Like later today 02:21 dcook But I think I might be able to soon! 02:20 dcook Alas, I have not :/ 02:20 tcohen dcook: did u have time to check my facets patch? 02:15 tcohen hey dcook :-D 02:14 dcook hey tcohen 02:14 tcohen hi