Time Nick Message 23:50 eythian I might look into that today. 23:49 eythian so squeeze-dev is getting older 23:49 eythian ashimema: master currently doesn't build 22:05 wahanui hola, eythian 22:05 eythian hi 21:15 jcamins But I have it on very good authority that your life would be better if you provided support for a version of Koha that hasn't been in common use for years. 21:14 jcamins ... I'm not sure how. 21:14 rangi heh 21:14 jcamins That would make things much easier. 21:14 jcamins This is why you should be supporting 3.2. 21:02 cait yeah right now we can hardly say it's time based :( 21:01 rangi over a week late now 21:01 rangi hmm where the heck are 3.12.15 and 3.14.10 ? 20:37 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 20:37 cait @later tell bgkriegel - ping 19:02 ashimema cheers cait 19:02 ashimema which actually appears to be behind squeeze at the moment. 19:02 ashimema pants.. this server is tracking squeeze-dev.. 19:01 cait sorry 19:01 cait um .3 19:01 cait 3.16.2 19:01 cait and now it says there is an installation candidate 19:01 cait sudo apt-get update 19:01 cait i ran 19:01 cait ah 19:01 ashimema what's that line in your sources file... maybe I have this server tracking the wrong repo. 19:01 cait did eythan bild the packages yet 19:00 cait 3.16.1 19:00 ashimema i'm sure it should be more like 3.16.03 blah.. 19:00 ashimema thanks cait.. 19:00 ashimema that's what policy is giving me at the minute.. 19:00 cait let me run that 19:00 cait i logged in 18:59 ashimema 3.16~git+20140521105956.3f9a8ccc 18:59 ashimema maybe.. 18:59 cait do you want to check on the server? 18:59 cait a package install really 18:59 cait hm i don't have a community install really 18:59 ashimema apt-cache policy koha-commong 18:59 ashimema it doesn't feel quite right for me? 18:58 ashimema can anyone verify what koha version they're currently receiving with the community repositories? 18:58 cait trying to understand bit operators and encryption stuff *sigh* 18:58 cait kind of 18:58 ashimema cait about? 18:58 ashimema tcohen about? 18:14 cait hi tcohen :) 17:33 * cait waves 16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11566 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fixing accessibility on OPAC 16:45 mveron This question is related to Bug 11566 16:44 mveron Are there plans to switch from Bootstrap 2.3.1. to version 3? - Version 3 has a new class 'sr-only' that is useful for accessibility. 16:37 mveron Hi #koha 15:00 reiveune bye 14:23 cait glad to know sru is comign :) 14:23 cait marcelr++ :) 14:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12309: Adapt zipcode wording to match the other patron pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19f2f0e7764675d52e31e81684c7939938f5a6f1> / Bug 12309 - Add more fields to batch patron modification tool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31847c7bd5a4d6fd77bf6c15e08764a44658a05e> / Bug 12061 - tmpl_process3.pl - Include/exclude file by name <http://git.koha-commu 13:54 huginn tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 13:54 tcohen huginn: those are not important, the other patches were the relevant ones 13:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10308 - local subjects can use authorities too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=738f1001af6239a8893c3050ca21ea99854805b8> / Bug 12674: GetMarcISSN should not return empty ISSN <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b23d5d84b07ce7011169c692ddc7569c9763c00e> / Bug 12674: (regression tests) GetMarcISSN should not return empty ISSN <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw 13:51 tcohen marcelr++ 13:51 tcohen #koha: time to test and retest the SRU/Z39.50 improvements on master 13:32 ashimema in a vain attempt to make them look more pretty in the browser... but I can't varify if it's a change or somthing we've just never handled? 13:32 * cait is pretty sure she dislikes IE strongly 13:32 ashimema I'm pretty sure now that Syndetics have completely screwed up their error responses.. 13:31 tcohen i am :-D 13:31 ashimema go ahead. 13:31 wahanui tcohen is probably obsessed with packages' scripts 13:31 ashimema tcohen.. 13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12856 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-disable fails without disabling site 13:28 akafred mtj: bug #12856 13:23 tcohen ashimema: do u have a couple minutes to test something? 13:13 ashimema does anyone here know whether syndetics have changed their api handling for 'not found' requests? 13:12 cait ok, got it working and just ignore me :) 13:11 cait ... or not 13:08 cait i think i found it 13:07 cait of course. 13:07 cait i managed to change the background color ... but it's not working in ie 13:06 cait ie-- 13:05 * cait wishes that oleonard would appear 13:04 ashimema hi tcohen.. 13:04 tcohen hi ashimema 12:50 ashimema nice 12:47 cait http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ 12:47 cait ah, also found this 12:46 ashimema fraid not cait 12:44 wahanui you are happy about some example opacs :) 12:44 cait cait? 12:44 cait lol 12:44 wahanui okay, cait. 12:44 cait i am also happy about some example opacs :) 12:41 cait does someone know if we have some more documentation other than http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bootstrap_OPAC about customizing the new bootstrap opac? 12:41 marcelr any news? 12:41 marcelr ok 12:41 tcohen marcelr: it is SRU time 12:41 tcohen hi marcelr 12:41 cait hi marcelr 12:40 marcelr hi tcohen cait 12:38 cait morning 12:37 tcohen morning 12:07 ashimema woops 12:07 ashimema oops.. i feel silly now.. it's one of my three local changes that breaks the test.. 12:02 ashimema seems a test is failing.. hmm 12:02 ashimema anyone had similar issues? 12:02 ashimema my packages seem to fail to build 3.16.03 at the moment.. 11:57 cait bye mtj - sleep well 11:56 akafred thx mtj, and good night :-9 11:55 mtj i gotta head to bed... cya cait 11:54 cait hm i guess not 11:54 cait tcohen around? 11:53 mtj (on my 3.16 at least :0) 11:53 mtj it might be worth logging a bug akafred - it does seem like a legit problem, on koha-3.16 11:46 mtj yeah, the other catch is you probably are not running master 11:43 mtj sorry, my dev box is currently down - so i cant look any further tonite 11:42 mtj hmm, i just noticed that my koha-disable example is failing too 11:38 akafred Nah, this is just vanilla koha-common from apt. Config is in /etc/apache2/sites-available/<instancename>.conf 11:37 cait but that's just guessing really 11:37 cait the problem might be your sites available not being .conf 11:37 cait where i had updated the apache version and koha since i started using the scripts 11:36 cait I had problems with the script on a server too 11:36 cait akafred: did you update in between? 11:33 akafred mtj: that looks exactly like my bash -x output and from what I can tell the site is never disabled. The disable should change the sites .conf file and cause apache to be restarted - which it doesnt do (according to the bash -x output). 11:27 akafred sorry, was afk for lunch ... 11:22 mtj akafred: ^ 11:22 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-disable" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/184 11:22 wahanui paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org 11:22 mtj paste? 11:19 mtj akafred ^ 11:19 mtj akafr, cmd works ok on my 3.16.1, fwiw 11:18 mtj $instancename is set in /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-functions.sh 11:17 mtj ah, no... 11:16 mtj but yeah, looks like a typo to me 11:12 mtj # bash -x koha-disable foo1 11:12 mtj akafred, debug your script with bash -x 10:51 ashimema maybe i'll get round to that at some point. 10:51 ashimema I see.. I think packages should log by default into /var/log/koha/instance/ or whatever the location is.. and manage them properly with logrotate. 10:49 * akafred is head scratching ... 10:48 akafred On line #39 here: https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/debian/scripts/koha-disable there is a reference to $instancename which doesn't seem to have been set .. 10:46 akafred Anyone tried koha-disable lately? I get "/usr/sbin/koha-disable: 35: [: =: argument expected" 10:44 magnuse log all the things! 10:38 ashimema I thought it logged by default. 10:38 ashimema ah.. you have to add --log to force logging.. 10:36 ashimema ok.. I'm gonna go re-read the script.. 10:35 Joubu ashimema: setting the verbose flag, some lines seem to be output on stdout (not retrieved when launched as a cronjob) 10:35 Joubu ashimema: the script does not log anything 10:34 ashimema in package installs.. it appears to be in /etc/cron.daily/koha-common 10:33 Joubu ashimema: how do you launch it? cron? 10:31 ashimema which I'm sure is where it should be going? 10:31 ashimema I can't find logs for any of my instances in tmp? 10:31 ashimema in packages installed.. where does the log go when running the regular fines.pl.. 10:31 ashimema thanks Joubu! 10:30 ashimema :) 10:01 Joubu ashimema: sandbox patches pushed ;) 09:13 Joubu (note that this file should not be part of the Koha code, but in an external module). 09:12 Joubu last 2 commits 09:12 Joubu indradg: http://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/sanop/ft/MT10141 09:07 Joubu indradg: I wrote a driver for a French provider. Let me search the patch 09:05 magnuse yeah 09:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10784 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SMS-related code needs improvements 09:03 indradg magnuse: i see bug 10784 09:01 magnuse i fear the sms stuff is somewhat half baked... 08:58 indradg so how does the username get passed? 08:58 indradg but there is no syspref named SMSSendUsername 08:57 indradg C4::SMS.pm has _login => C4::Context->preference('SMSSendUsername') 08:56 indradg it needs an username and passwd to auth the transaction 08:56 indradg now, from what I can see http://search.cpan.org/~bigpresh/SMS-Send-AQL-0.04/lib/SMS/Send/AQL.pm 08:55 indradg http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/circfaq.html#smsnoticefaq mentions AQL as one of the available drivers 08:54 indradg I've a couple of question on SMSSendDriver syspref 08:49 indradg hi #koha 08:49 cait Joubu: just saw Zeno's email, hopefully some progress tomorrow :) 08:47 cait magnuse++ :) 08:31 magnuse koha-deps and koha-perldeps 08:31 magnuse "sudo apt-cache search koha" 08:28 magnuse one for perl deps and one for other deps 08:28 magnuse there are two different ones, i think 08:27 ashimema cheers cait 08:25 cait koha-perl-deps? 08:25 cait i think 08:23 ashimema there isn't a command to install just dependancies from koha-common and not koha-common itself is there? 08:21 Viktor hej magnuse! 08:21 magnuse tjänare Viktor! 08:20 Viktor hi cait 08:19 cait morning Viktor 08:18 Joubu cait: the with_symbol parameter should be added to the TT plugin to do that. 08:18 cait ah ok 08:18 Joubu cait: no, the patches don't display the symbol. 08:17 cait I think the only change now will be that FR displays the currency symbol? 08:16 cait yep 08:15 Joubu cait: I don't manage to find a good answer. But not important for now :) 08:15 cait Joubu: and I'd not move it to the curreny before we know how we want it to work 08:14 cait Joubu: not sure eitehr about the formatting - but i think a plugin will be a great start :) 08:08 magnuse kia ora cait! 07:51 cait morning Joubu and ashimema :) 07:51 ashimema hi cait 07:51 * cait waves 07:50 ashimema :) Joubu 07:50 ashimema which causes real issues at times. 07:50 Joubu magnuse & ashimema: yes the hackfest in Marseille will certainly be organised in spring :) But need to be confirmed. 07:50 ashimema I found that using the koha-* scripts is a bit hit and miss with gitified.. certainly for SIP those scripts are not using the gitified install but the pacakge one.. 07:49 ashimema but sounds different to your issues.. 07:49 ashimema I've had a few oddities with SIP and the like with gitified.. 07:49 ashimema oh.. that's odd 07:48 magnuse yeah, sometimes it looks like its not running off the git repo anymore 07:48 ashimema gitigied doing strang things for you? 07:47 magnuse ah, perhaps i just need to rebuild the templates 07:47 ashimema what wierd magnuse? 07:47 magnuse wow, my weird gitified installation is even weirder than i thought - the opac says generator = Koha 3.1700011 07:43 magnuse hiya Joubu 07:43 marcelr hi Joubu 07:43 Joubu hello #koha 07:42 ashimema I'm also hoping hackfest is happening. 07:42 magnuse hiya akafred and ashimema 07:42 ashimema morning all 07:34 magnuse ;-) 07:34 * magnuse hopes Viktor will make it to the marseille spring hackfest, if there is one 07:34 magnuse tjänare Viktor! 07:30 * magnuse starts to wonder if there will be a marseille hackfest in spring, and if he will make it there 07:27 paul_p lot of "mistral" wind today. Symbol of the end of summer here.... 07:27 paul_p & happy spring kiwis & aussies & others from southern hemisphere 07:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 07:26 magnuse @wunder boo 07:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 17.6°C (9:26 AM CEST on September 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 07:26 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:26 magnuse yeah, so it goes... 07:25 paul_p september... summer is gone... welcome new school year... 07:25 paul_p hello #koha 07:24 magnuse kia ora paul_p! 07:07 magnuse gah! 07:07 magnuse and why is /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/kohaversion.pl saying "3.15.00.052", when "apt-cache policy" says i'm running 3.16-something? 07:05 magnuse it should be showing the versin from /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/kohaversion.pl, which has "our $VERSION = '3.17.00.016';" 07:05 magnuse and that is the version in /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/kohaversion.pl 07:04 magnuse "about koha" says i'm running 3.15.00.052 07:03 magnuse looks like it's not really running off the git repo any longer... 07:02 dcook :( 07:02 magnuse huh, my gitified dev installation is acting weird 06:44 dcook salut reiveune 06:42 wahanui reiveune is working for biblibre 06:42 marcelr and reiveune 06:42 reiveune hi magnuse marcelr kathryn dcook 06:42 marcelr hi magnuse 06:42 magnuse bonjour reiveune marcelr 06:40 marcelr hi #koha 06:38 reiveune hello 06:34 cait bbiab :) 06:34 cait heh 06:26 magnuse_ is that a new git command? 06:20 cait hm git slow? 05:31 dcook laters eythian 05:31 cait night eythian 05:31 * eythian heads to training, night all 05:31 dcook hehe :D 05:31 cait better of course ;) 05:11 dcook I often wonder if I prefer the way Koha does some things because I'm really familiar with it... or just because it's better 05:10 dcook Maybe not.. 05:07 dcook On the plus side, I think I've fixed nearly everything.. 05:06 dcook I love how upgrade instructions often don't cover everything you actually have to do... 05:03 eythian and, unsurprisingly, they're a total different design to mine 05:02 eythian oh, there's already functions here. 05:01 dcook Ain't that always the way 05:01 eythian I feel like they're just a bit too different 05:00 eythian I wonder if I can add a layer of abstraction and reuse my biblio iterator code 04:57 eythian ok, now to start making my rebuild script understand authorities. This'll be fun... 04:57 dcook [off] Lovely. Internal System Error. Sadly, this was actually expected... 04:51 dcook [off] Now if I can remember all the local peculiarities of this server... 04:50 eythian :D 04:50 dcook On the plus side, my Dspace build finally finished. Huzzah! 04:49 dcook Hmm, I bet quite a bit of ccl.properties is totally unnecessary... 04:47 eythian yeah 04:47 dcook Oh right... bib1.att 04:46 eythian at least, my mapping for that is pubdate -> pubdate 04:45 eythian pubdate does 04:45 dcook I keep thinking pubdate still works.. 04:45 dcook Seeing that we're usually the only ones using indexes, I don't know why we have so many aliases 04:45 dcook Yeah :/ 04:45 eythian also ti -> title, au -> author, nb -> isbn, etc etc 04:44 eythian heh yep 04:44 dcook pubdate Date-of-publication 04:44 dcook yr Date-of-publication 04:44 dcook #dp Date-of-publication 04:44 dcook Date-of-publication 1=pubdate r=r 04:44 dcook wth.. 04:44 dcook Yeah, that is annoying 04:44 eythian yeah 04:43 eythian kinda like that 04:43 dcook But like "rtype 1=otheralias" ? 04:43 dcook Not quite like that.. 04:43 dcook mus rtype 04:43 dcook mc-rtype rtype 04:43 dcook Record-type rtype 04:43 dcook rtype 1=1001 04:43 dcook Mmm, I think I know what mean 04:42 eythian or something along those lines 04:42 eythian but it seems to be that a lot of fields are stored under one name in zebra, and then searched for using a different name, so they have to be aliased to match 04:41 eythian now I can't find an example 04:40 cait ? 04:40 dcook eythian: annoying aliasing thing? 04:39 eythian oh hey, so authorities don't seem to do that annoying aliasing thing that biblios do. That's nice. Or I just haven't found it yet. 04:37 cait how was monday? 04:34 wizzyrea yep, probably so 04:30 cait it's still that time here 04:30 cait maybe he is on vacation 04:28 wizzyrea he has things marked for 3.14.10 in bugzilla! 04:28 eythian I assume he intends to... 04:27 wizzyrea that's unfortunate. 04:27 eythian nope 04:27 wizzyrea did fridolin ever do a 3.14.10? 04:24 cait morning 04:24 eythian yeah 04:24 dcook also, hi cait :) 04:24 dcook koha-indexdefs-to-ES? 04:23 eythian it's now getting tedious 04:23 eythian y'know what, writing a parser of some sort for this would have been a better idea. 04:13 eythian hi cait 04:10 dcook Something to be said for consistency as well 04:10 dcook True true 04:10 dcook I suppose you could take a look at the search interface to see when those indexes are queried 04:10 eythian better getting something working now than having nothing working while trying to work out the details 04:09 eythian I'm going to throw them all in 04:09 eythian fair enough 04:09 * dcook shrugs and goes to make a sandwich 04:08 dcook Not sure about personal-name 04:08 dcook And "Personal-Name-Heading" for a personal name search 04:07 dcook I suppose "Heading" is searched during a default search 04:07 dcook Yeah, I'd take a look at authority-zebra-indexdefs.xsl 04:03 eythian oh, it's also enclosed in an index_heading tag whereas the others are in an index_subfields tag 04:02 eythian marc_defs/marc21/authorities/authority-koha-indexdefs.xml 04:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12073 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , OPAC detail page printing show links URL 04:02 dcook bug 12073 - I must be getting better at this searching Bugzilla thing.. 04:01 wahanui well, which file is that? 04:01 dcook Hmm, which file? 04:01 eythian (although the latter two have "subdivisions" defined, I don't yet know what they are.) 04:01 eythian why do the indexes have "personal-name", "personal-name-heading", and "heading" all defined as the same thing? 04:00 * dcook tries to remember the name of that bug that fixed the printing of records.. 03:59 dcook Yeah, I don't think that's done at all 03:58 eythian no, that'd be silly 03:58 eythian I doubt it... 03:58 eythian is there anywhere we facet authorities? 03:55 dcook I really want to redo one of those XSLTs, but...yeah... that's probably not going to happen anytime soon 03:55 dcook Totes 03:54 eythian yeah. But I'm not actually going to do that, it'd be more work than it was worth. 03:53 dcook Mmm, but I guess in your case it would be... the XSL that Zebra uses that would be of interest? 03:53 dcook I've been wondering if we could have a way of building the ccl.properties file more automatically but no brain waves as of yet 03:52 eythian just a flat table full of definitions. 03:52 eythian yeah, this'll be easy to manage (hopefully.) 03:52 dcook Hmm, that doubles for what I'm working on now... 03:52 dcook A pain in the ass to manage though... 03:52 dcook Sort of 03:52 dcook The pile of files aren't so bad once you wrap your head around them 03:51 dcook Mmm 03:51 eythian ES mappings go in the database, not in some non-understandable pile of files 03:51 wahanui rumour has it SQL is more fun that Perl 03:51 dcook SQL? 03:50 eythian a better way would be to write an XSLT that makes SQL for me, but damned if I have the desire to do that. 03:50 dcook Well, that'll be the way to do it :/ 03:49 dcook hehe 03:49 eythian that is to say, copy-pasting from the existing ones. 03:49 eythian I'm starting work on defining the MARC to index name mappings for authorities at the moment 03:49 dcook Mmm, cool beans 03:48 eythian so, it's a word, phrase, and has a sort index 03:47 eythian well, like: Personal-name-heading:w,Personal-name-heading:p,Personal-name-heading:s 03:47 eythian ) 03:47 eythian (basically everything is a word and a phrase, special handling for boolean, and I ought to do things with dates and years. 03:46 dcook Also, yay for hearing about you working on ES :) 03:46 dcook Many types of indexes for one thing? 03:46 eythian I'm handling that fairly generically in ES, it could be improved eventually so that you can specify many types of indexes for one thing. 03:45 dcook np 03:44 dcook s/Probably/Possibly/ 03:44 eythian cool ta 03:44 dcook Probably because some people might've thought it meant "string" rather than "sort" 03:44 dcook We use :s way more than we should 03:44 dcook Table 5.13. Structure and completeness mapping to register types 03:44 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-zebra.html 03:43 dcook Just a sec 03:43 dcook Yep 03:38 eythian dcook: in the zebra index definitions, is there a guide somewhere as to what :w, :n, :s, :p etc mean after the field names? 03:25 dcook Also yay reviewing changes before committing! 03:25 dcook Yay git! 03:25 dcook Hmm, vimdiff did delete a few sections unexpected...that's weird.. 03:07 eythian heh 03:06 dcook I guess it was fed up with my pressing its button 03:06 dcook My "up" button just decided to flip over 03:05 dcook Oh my... 02:35 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 02:35 eythian @later tell gmcharlt can you please have a gander at bug 12492? it'd be nice to not carry it manually any more. 02:35 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 02:35 eythian @later gmcharlt can you please have a gander at bug 12492? it'd be nice to not carry it manually any more.