Time Nick Message 23:59 dcook night bag :) 23:59 dcook That reminds me that I should start my daily routine of eating all day almost constantly 23:59 dcook Mmm dinner 23:59 bag alright time for me to go home and have some dinner 23:58 dcook Hmm, I got the first sentence then I was lost 23:58 bag talking to LadyNight32 :) 23:57 bag wow pianohacker is that man of mystery 23:57 huginn bag: Sent 4 years, 40 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <pianohacker> Mi mamá es de cuba, y hablo un poco de español. A veces estoy en el canal(?), y le podrÃa ayudar. 23:57 bag @notes LadyNight32 23:57 huginn bag: I have not seen whoever. 23:57 bag @seen whoever 23:56 eythian it shouldn't allow leaving notes for people who have never been seen before. 23:56 huginn bag: Sent 2 years, 51 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, and 24 minutes ago: <wizzyrea> what you want to tell them 23:56 huginn dcook: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 23:56 bag @notes whoever 23:56 dcook @notes dcook: 23:56 bag yeah someone needs to clear out the old notes soon 23:56 huginn dcook: juan-siera, kf,, khall:, khall_away, km_kale, kmkale:, kyleh, LadyNight32, magnus, magnus_waffles, manguse, mario, matts_away, member:libsysguy, mrenvoize, mtj:, mtompset, mtompset:, mtompsett,, NCAR, nenegard, nengard:, nicole, Oak:, oleonard, oleonard:, oloenard, owen:, paul_p,, paul_p:, rangi:, santy,, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, sjeffrey, slef:, tchoen, tcohen:, thd-away, Viktor:, whoever, wizzrea, (1 more message) 23:56 dcook @more 23:56 huginn dcook: Sent 51 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, and 20 minutes ago: <tcohen> please share your merge. it looks like the ajax call is not given a json content-type 23:56 dcook @notes dcook, 23:56 huginn dcook: I currently have notes waiting for #koha, ashimema, ashimema-, ashimema:, ashimena, bag:, bgkriegel:, bgrkiegel, Brooke:, cait,, cait., cait:, ccurry, chris_c, chris_n,, chris_n:, christ, cindy, cjh, could, Culiforg:, dcook,, dpavlin:, drofj, drojf:, druthb_away, druthb_away:, eythian:, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hackfesters, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/listen/inetbib/msg48204.html, jcamins:, (2 more messages) 23:56 dcook @notes 23:55 dcook Hmm, no idea what that's about 23:55 huginn dcook: Sent 51 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <tcohen> please share your merge. it looks like the ajax call is not given a json content-type 23:55 dcook @notes dcook, 23:55 huginn dcook: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 23:55 dcook @notes dcookm 23:55 huginn dcook: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 23:55 dcook @notes dcook 23:55 dcook Hmm 23:50 huginn eythian: Sent 1 year, 22 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, and 6 minutes ago: <oleonard> See to it that the follow-ups on bug 9883 are signed off and QAed before the end of the day! 23:50 eythian @notes hackfesters 23:48 huginn eythian: in $(koha-translate --list) ; do koha-translate --update $lang ; done during the packages update 23:48 eythian @more 23:48 huginn eythian: just added it as a comment on some other bug, Sent 1 year, 20 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, and 4 minutes ago: <magnuse> my original comment was on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9918, Sent 1 year, 18 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <tcohen> take a look at bug 10084, and Sent 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, and 58 minutes ago: <tcohen> we could do smth like for lang (1 more message) 23:48 eythian @more 23:48 huginn eythian: Sent 1 year, 23 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, and 2 minutes ago: <magnuse> do you happen to have any opinions on Bug 9749?, Sent 1 year, 22 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <magnuse> if you should happen to feel like fixing bug 9890 i'll sign off in ~15 hours :-), Sent 1 year, 20 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, and 10 minutes ago: <magnuse> i did not report a bug for the version in build-git-snapshot, i (2 more messages) 23:48 eythian @more 23:48 huginn eythian: Sent 3 years, 18 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, and 17 minutes ago: <cait> forget everything before and answer that question: Is there a bug for the accounting rewrite to which I can link bugs as 2696 Fine payments should show whatwas paid for, Sent 1 year, 31 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, and 26 minutes ago: <magnuse> kia ora! any news on the funding for the images from multiple sources thing? just curious... :-), (3 more messages) 23:48 eythian @notes eythian: 23:48 eythian that's the one 23:48 bag notes is the key :D 23:48 huginn bag: Sent 22 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, and 49 minutes ago: <magnuse> HI 23:48 bag @notes bag: 23:47 huginn bag: I currently have notes waiting for #koha, ashimema, ashimema-, ashimema:, ashimena, bag:, bgkriegel:, bgrkiegel, Brooke:, cait,, cait., cait:, ccurry, chris_c, chris_n,, chris_n:, christ, cindy, cjh, could, Culiforg:, dcook,, dpavlin:, drofj, drojf:, druthb_away, druthb_away:, eythian:, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hackfesters, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/listen/inetbib/msg48204.html, jcamins:, (2 more messages) 23:47 huginn eythian: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. 23:47 bag @notes 23:47 eythian @help later tell 23:47 huginn eythian: Error: There is no command "@later". 23:47 eythian @help @later 23:47 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 23:47 eythian huginn: yes there is 23:47 huginn eythian: Error: There is no command "later". 23:47 eythian @help later 23:47 huginn eythian: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 23:47 eythian @help 23:47 huginn eythian: I've exhausted my database of quotes 23:47 eythian @later help 23:47 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 23:47 eythian @later show eythian 23:47 huginn eythian: downloading the Perl source 23:47 eythian @later eythian 23:46 eythian I forget how 23:46 eythian somehow 23:46 eythian you can look them up 23:45 dcook Hmm, I never thought of that.. 23:45 bag :) 23:44 bag having fun with the @laters 23:44 bag yuppers 23:44 dcook I think bag is having an identity crisis. 23:44 eythian ... 23:41 dcook O_o 23:41 dcook Yay! New memory card means more room for all the comics... 22:44 tcohen hi bag 22:34 bag heya tcohen 22:32 tcohen hi 22:04 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 30.1°C (3:04 PM PDT on August 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 22:04 bag @wunder 93102 21:45 wnickc bye all 21:29 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 21:29 cait @later tell ashimema - the sandbox seems to have attached the wrong patch? 21:02 cait glad we could figure it out :) 21:02 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 21:02 nengard @later tell oleonard cait helped me - pm me if you want to know the answer 21:02 nengard thank you so much cait 21:02 nengard okay time for me to call it a day 21:00 nengard cait++ 21:00 nengard that did it!! 20:59 nengard sure 20:59 cait $("#results a:contains('[electronic resource]') ~ span[id='location']").hide(); 20:59 cait but can you try this, nengard? 20:59 cait it's a bit weird looking 20:59 cait hmmmm 20:58 cait me too 20:57 nengard it has to be something small i'm missing 20:57 nengard not sure .... 20:55 cait looking at the sibling elements 20:55 cait we use it with hide - to make the availability go away 20:55 nengard what is the ~ 20:54 nengard hmmm 20:54 cait $("#results a:contains('[electronic resource]') ~ span.availability").show(); < this gets the availability back, on all of them 20:54 cait nengard: hm i don't understand why it doesn't work on all elements yet - apart from the id idea 20:50 cait trying different things, found nothing working yet 20:50 nengard hehe 20:50 cait another bug to fry for another day... i guess :) 20:50 cait hm ok 20:49 nengard I'm using 'default' 20:49 nengard so it's not the custom XSLT causing the problem 20:49 nengard okay that's how it is in the standard install 20:47 nengard off to check my install 20:47 nengard hmmm .. is that cause of the custom css, or is it that way for everyone 20:47 nengard oh - like the ones above 20:46 cait class="results_summary location" 20:46 cait then you separate them with a space 20:46 cait you can have multiple classes 20:46 nengard hmmm 20:46 nengard but instead it's class="results_summary" 20:46 cait but i am realll ynot usre if that would make a difference 20:46 cait because an id should be appear only once on a page 20:46 nengard oh 20:46 cait yeah - for super correct html it should be class="location" 20:45 nengard well i see span id="location" on all of them 20:45 nengard hmmm 20:44 cait talking about id="location" 20:44 cait but... not sure if that should make a difference 20:44 cait so it's not unique 20:43 cait i am nto sure this makes any difference - but it should be a class not an id, because it's on the page for every entry 20:43 cait ah, some of it is a bit strnage 20:43 nengard that could be it! 20:43 nengard yes, we do have a custom xslt on there 20:43 nengard [off] cait http://catalog.goddard.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=case+histories+in+business&branch_group_limit= 20:43 cait hm did they change the xslt stylesheets? 20:42 nengard k - let me move it around 20:41 cait and it works for all of them 20:41 cait [off] https://hshl.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=buch&branch_group_limit= 20:41 nengard in the pref 20:41 cait a similar line works to remove the availability line here 20:41 cait i saw the same in firebug... but not sure why 20:41 cait are you trying in firebug or in the pref? 20:40 nengard trying other places 20:40 nengard maybe i put it in the wrong place 20:40 nengard but only for the first one :( 20:40 cait :) 20:40 cait phew 20:40 nengard cait that worked!!! 20:13 * cait should go back to reading 20:11 cait hm. i tink it should work, maybe try in the sys pref 20:08 cait or mabe it's because the structure is different there 20:08 cait ok, if i put it in the console, it doesn't seem to work quite right... but it might i fyou put it into opacuserjs... i think 20:08 pianohacker ahhhh http://api.jquery.com/next-siblings-selector/ 20:07 cait hm works ok for the library... weird 20:06 cait hm it doesn't work on this page realy.. sec 20:06 bag But it also eats babies? a bit extreme 20:05 pianohacker hahahahahaha 20:04 cait yeah well.. maybe 20:04 wahanui But it also eats babies. 20:04 cait it works! 20:03 cait it work! 20:03 cait i looked it up back then, don't ask me now :) 20:03 pianohacker tilde? 20:03 cait $("#results a:contains('[electronic resource]') ~ span#location").hide(); try this 20:01 nengard The availability isn't showing which is good - but they have it set to show the location on another line so that's the problem 20:00 cait sec 20:00 cait nengard: hm i am not showing the availability if it's an ebook in one ofour catalogs 19:59 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 19:59 nengard @later tell oleonard do you have any ideas how to alter the ebook js to not show the Location line if it's an ebook? http://catalog.goddard.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=case+histories+in+business&branch_group_limit= 19:45 wnickc cait: syspref on or off the see froms are hidden, looks good, thanks for catching xslt 19:41 cait wnickc++ 19:37 wnickc I signed off, but turned the includesee.. pref back on and will double check in 5 minutes 19:36 cait 10 sounds about the usual default 19:36 wnickc or so it appears 19:36 wnickc I did, but it didn't seem to make the extra names go away, unless my timing was wrong, ten minute wait for indexes on sandbox 19:36 drojf bgkriegel: wow that's impressive :D 19:36 bgkriegel jcamins: some of them are just ornaments, but almost all have been used 19:34 cait wnickc: did you turn of the pref to include the authorities? and changed the record after that? 19:34 jcamins (why yes, I *was* RM in between then and now) 19:34 cait jcamins: we did now i think 19:34 jcamins And several thousand gray hairs ago. 19:33 jcamins I could be wrong. That was a long time ago. 19:33 wnickc I was just going to ask if non-xslt was deprecated 19:33 jcamins Didn't we deprecate "normal" view in 3.10? 19:33 wnickc ah, all clear now 19:32 cait i think it isn't 19:32 cait wnickc: hm i wonder, could you switch to xslt layout? 19:31 cait wnickc: looks like you uncovered another bug maybe 19:31 cait bgkriegel: oh wow 19:31 jcamins That makes sense, but what are the other eleven for? ;) 19:30 bgkriegel but we tend to use only one, until it brakes 19:29 bgkriegel yes :) 19:28 jcamins That still leaves you with a lot of choices as any given moment! 19:28 bgkriegel jcamins: the one with small neck and the green one for sweet mate, the others without sugar 19:24 wnickc but they aren't in facets 19:24 wnickc could ge t bit long 19:24 wnickc cait: just wondering about the display of aliases in the results http://snag.gy/4Vx7d.jpg 19:24 bgkriegel at this moment i use those at the back 19:22 jcamins How do you choose which to use? 19:22 jcamins Wow. 19:20 bgkriegel jcamins: http://snag.gy/BWcpl.jpg 19:17 barton cait -- done. 19:15 bgkriegel hehe 19:15 bgkriegel have a lot, from diffent sources 19:15 * cait is confused now... and blames the distance study 19:15 drojf oh you people from mate land and those going there. envy… 19:15 cait for the new mate 19:15 cait ah 19:14 bgkriegel But it's a long time since I bought a new mate 19:14 * cait needs amore step by step thing :) 19:13 bgkriegel I only put yerba, fresh, and change it a couple of times/days 19:12 bgkriegel Hi jcamins, well i read what tomas said :) 19:12 * cait is interested too 19:12 jcamins <-- keeps his priorities straight at all times 19:11 drojf hi cait :) 19:11 jcamins Ah, bgkriegel... Tomas said I should get multiple opinions on how to brew my mate. What's your preferred method? 19:10 barton cait -- writing that up now. 19:10 bgkriegel Hi all 19:09 * cait dives into her distance study course again 19:08 wnickc barton: lol 19:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Date comparisons in C4::Members::IssueSlip are broken 19:07 cait barton: could you add a note how to see the breakage to bug 12847? :) 19:06 cait coffee overlaod 19:06 cait ohoh 19:06 barton Coffee: |========================>| 127 % 19:05 barton Coffee: |==================>| 99 % 19:05 barton Coffee: |=========>|.........| 55 % 19:04 cait thx a lot! sorry to hear about the vm 19:03 wnickc My good VM is on my laptop at home, I messed up the one at my desk 19:02 wnickc trying biblibre 19:02 wnickc was just trying on PTFS sandbox but zebra wouldn't refresh 19:02 * cait is looking for an experienced sign offer 19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 19:02 cait wnickc: could you maybe take a look at bug 12788? 19:02 bag heya cait 19:02 bag barton: show off your coffee graph 19:01 pianohacker yo cait 19:01 wnickc hi cait 19:01 cait hi bag and wnickc :) 19:01 cait hi drojf :) 19:00 pianohacker coffee graph? 19:00 bag wnickc: barton has this awesome little coffee graph he does from time to time 18:59 wnickc and never ever enough coffee bag 18:59 wnickc dropped my caps 18:59 wnickc I felt conspicuous 18:58 bag oh wow - wnickc isn't using CAPS today... Not enough coffee today? 18:56 drojf good evening #koha 18:56 wnickc ashimema: does zebra daemon run on PTFS sandboxes? 17:46 cait i'd almost like to leave it 17:46 cait *grump* 17:46 cait ah 17:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 17:46 cait bug 12788 17:46 tcohen 12788 17:40 cait hm? 17:36 tcohen we need it for 3.16... 17:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 17:35 tcohen can *anyone* test bug 12788 please? 16:37 reiveune bye 16:32 Joubu bye #koha! 16:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12833 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patron search no longer searches extended attributes 16:32 Joubu khall: patch submitted on bug 12833 15:00 Joubu email address 15:00 Joubu The patrons have an email defined? 15:00 Joubu Did you create overdue rules? 14:59 Joubu Do you have overdues? 14:59 Joubu eternalsword: Do you have templates defined for these notices? 14:29 eternalsword and I've been running the cronjobs manually to see if any errors or warnings are thrown and nothing is. 14:27 eternalsword I mean to get messages to actually go into the message_queue db table. overdue notices, advanced notices, due notices are not populating. 14:25 Joubu misc/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl 14:25 Joubu eternalsword: There is a cronjob script 14:22 eternalsword do I need to enable anything for the message queue to work? 14:14 ashimema poor tcohen having to try and keep up with all these bugs ;) 14:14 ashimema marcelr++ #busy bee on sru 14:03 tcohen qt5 :-D 14:03 khall sounds like you are missing one of the qt5 dev packages most likely 14:02 tcohen we are on ubuntu 14.04 14:02 khall tcohen: what platform are you building it for? 14:01 cait create an item due yesterdy and a notice trigger for the patron's library with 1 as the first delay and a notice -that should give you one 14:01 tcohen khall: i'm trying to build libki, but it fails because it cannot find webkitwidgets script 14:01 cait have to run - bye all 14:01 eternalsword messages don't seem to be getting put in the message queue. I tried overdue_notices.pl -t and nothing even though there are several that meet the criteria. What's the best way to debug? 13:28 eternalsword I just checked the git log, doesn't look like it's made it there yet, I'll just hide the tab for now. 13:24 cait maybe check bugzilla directly 13:24 wahanui none of those are required. 13:24 cait hm none of those 13:23 huginn cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5765 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron messaging form template tests for SMS inconsistently 13:23 huginn cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Checkboxes are shown for nonexistent SMS transports 13:23 huginn cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add patron messaging preference to Batch Patrons Modification tool 13:23 huginn cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5617 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , fix-perl-path.pl misses some files 13:23 huginn cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7224 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Allow patrons to pick their own preferred language 13:23 cait @query messaging opac 13:23 cait eternalsword: not sure - it's very recent i think 13:23 eternalsword cait, has that pref made it to git main branch yet? 13:17 cait hi tcohen :) 13:17 tcohen hi cait 13:16 cait and in 3.18 there will be a pref 13:16 eternalsword good suggestion. 13:16 cait you can hide the tab in the opac 13:15 eternalsword is there any way to force enhanced messages? it's kind of pointless to have it if the patron can just turn it off. 12:58 ashimema indeed I am 12:57 cait you are just glad that you don't have to do it :) 12:57 cait hah 12:57 ashimema lets get display sorted first aye cait ;) 12:56 cait ashimema: later the problem will be linking to start a search from the display 12:56 cait ashimema: if people want to see that :) but i wil make it 'hideable' with css... and then we can see if someone has another idea 12:56 ashimema oh.. I see. 12:56 ashimema so what are you struggling with for display cait? 12:56 jcamins Not the XML format. The XML format is limited. But the actual DOM configuration is XSLT. 12:55 ashimema :) 12:55 jcamins One or the other. 12:55 jcamins ashimema: or an elephant gun permanently aimed at once's foot. 12:55 cait ashimema: records are from the unino catalog... 084 can contain at least rvk and their own and some other schemes 12:55 ashimema but beyond me then ;) 12:55 ashimema jcamins.. that's cool 12:55 jcamins The DOM configuration format is Turing-complete. 12:55 ashimema do you use a mixed classification scheme or something.? 12:55 cait i think one of the problems i ran into last time is that the index i would use for classifications is our callnumber index 12:54 jcamins Using DOM, Zebra could assuredly do whatever it is you want to do. 12:54 ashimema how is display complicated? 12:54 ashimema it's certianly worth exploring whether zebra can be clever first. 12:54 cait hm? 12:54 ashimema but that's not me offering to do the work.. 12:54 ashimema I think id'e almost be tempted to take that particualr field and index it in the database instead of zebra.. then add some clever rules to do queries on it. 12:53 cait worrying about search in the next step 12:53 cait i think my first goal will be display 12:53 ashimema zebra is a magical beast.. 12:53 ashimema I'm not actually sure if dom solves it or not.. 12:53 cait so can you fix it? :) 12:52 ashimema really.. 12:52 cait also searching the classification together with the source.... 12:52 ashimema we do share that problem more than you imagine 12:52 cait i think with dom it culd be solvable, but not sure how yet 12:52 ashimema yeah.. xlst translations are a mare.. 12:52 cait that's another problem yes 12:52 ashimema depending upon the classification scheme you’d want search to work differently in terms of truncation etc 12:52 cait easier if yours are only english I guess 12:51 cait i'd favor a general solution much over a local one, because maintining local xslt and translations seems a bit nightmarish 12:51 cait the classification in $a for 084 is determined by the classification scheme given in 084$2 12:51 ashimema indeed.. 12:51 cait but ... it's complicated 12:51 cait and 082 yep 12:50 ashimema so.. bascially you want to be able to search upon 084 and display 084 12:50 ashimema haha.. that make's sense. 12:50 ashimema showing my library ignorance here. 12:50 cait dewey decimal classification? :) 12:50 ashimema i'm afraid I have no idea what ddc is ;) 12:49 cait easier 12:49 cait i think i will start with ddc 12:49 cait yep 12:49 cait becuase marc doesn't have its own field for that... 12:49 ashimema oh.. the ddc question you asked? 12:49 cait the 084 is used here for very common rvk classification 12:49 cait display, make searchable 12:48 ashimema huh.. set on hwo to do what cait? 12:45 * magnuse gotta run 12:42 cait not really sure yet on how to do it - a lot of our classifications end up in 084 12:42 magnuse cait: i don't think i got much beyond weiting the rfc... 12:42 cait ashimema: not realyl sure set on how to do it :) 12:41 cait hm? 12:39 ashimema_lunch yeay cait++ 12:37 cait magnuse: i found http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Making_classification_indexes_searchable_in_staff_client_RFC - did you work on display too? 12:33 cait i will propose a patch, people can still fail it :) 12:33 cait hmm 12:29 cait (13:45:14) cait: quick question... has a library of yours asked to display something ddc classifications or 84 so far? 12:29 cait trying again for my earlier question :) 12:27 marcelr it never stop ;) 12:27 tcohen marcelr: you're getting closer :-D 12:26 marcelr ok 12:26 tcohen was reading it 12:26 marcelr sent you a mail 12:26 marcelr hi tcohen 12:26 tcohen morni 12:25 cait didn't find the time to kill it yet... and we are not done with shibboleth 12:24 matts nice :) 12:24 cait ashimema_lunch: matts: server is still about :) 12:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12633 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Failed QA , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members 12:08 khall that's how I discovered this in the first place, I was testing bug 12633 which DBIC's C4::Members::Search 12:07 khall I'd love to see it use DBIC, but that can come later. 12:07 khall I can totally agree with that. That's why I'd suggest fixing your code to search patron attributes and replacing C4::Members::Search with your code. 12:07 oleonard Hi everyone 12:06 Joubu this routine is unecessary complicated... 12:06 Joubu ha yes, you are right 12:06 khall not saying if that's the best solution or not, it's just how it's worked in previous releases 12:05 * Joubu is looking at the code 12:05 Joubu khall: hum 12:05 khall Joubu: that's how it's always worked 12:05 Joubu I don't think so 12:05 Joubu not sure, khall the search on patron attributes should be done for standard fields too? 12:05 matts ashimema, okay, i'll try to have a look at it ! 12:04 ashimema I think factoring our the actual search code and making both use the same base code can be a future bug. 12:03 ashimema Joubu.. you happy with what your going to do for Members search then? 12:03 ashimema pretty trivial to look at really.. though I have not idea if caits server is still about.. 12:03 ashimema they're just a retractor patch and some unit tests. 12:02 ashimema If you get a moment any time.. you wouldn't fancy giving those last shibboleth patches the once over would you.. 12:02 matts yep, it was a nice one, indeed 12:01 ashimema hope you had a good break 12:01 matts back from holidays, yes :) 12:00 ashimema matts.. your alive :) 12:00 khall C4::Members::Search would always search patron attributes unless a quick cardnumber match was found. 12:00 ashimema I think the 'standard' search should mimick the original default search behavior.. which I think was to fall back to attributes if no match is found? 11:59 Joubu that makes sense 11:59 ashimema to search specifcially on attributes and to fallback on attributes during a normal search? 11:58 ashimema what did it allow before Joubu.. regarding your original question.. 11:57 Joubu which is not trivial 11:57 ashimema Only I wanted to take the opportunity to shift said routine into Koha namespace.. but basically it's the same thoughts. 11:56 ashimema That's basically what I was saying.. 11:56 khall Joubu: I think the answer is still to use C4::Members::Search and to fix the way it searches. You could even overwrite the existing C4::Members::Search with the main part of C4::Utils::Datatables::Member::search and have C4::Utils::Datatables::Member::search call C4::Members::Search to get the patron data to convert into the format for datatables 11:54 Joubu (like standard, email, phone, etc., patron attributes) 11:53 Joubu Does that make sense to add a new search option "patron attr"? 11:53 Joubu because I am not a fan of the answer: "refactor and create a new module" :) 11:53 khall I'm a bit slow on the keyboard this morning ; ) 11:53 ashimema good question.. i have no answer :( 11:52 Joubu so, my original question was: 'When should we search on patron attributes?' 11:51 ashimema ;) 11:51 ashimema that I can't type? 11:51 khall agreed 11:51 * ashimema can't type today. 11:51 ashimema but that's obvisoyl mroe work again :( 11:51 ashimema I 'think' i'de rather see a bit of a refator such that a single 'search' is moved into the Koha namespace and is reference by both the current ones' 11:50 khall agreed, it's not good 11:50 Joubu All patron searchs should be done using the ws 11:50 ashimema as I personally think his code is 'neater'.. 11:50 ashimema I don't really like the idea of pushing Joubu's code for datatables to reference the other.. 11:49 ashimema it's a hard one.. 11:49 Joubu yes I agree 11:49 ashimema but in their current form I can see why we do.. 11:49 khall jinx! 11:49 khall No matter what, we really shouldn't have two separate patron search subroutines 11:49 ashimema I agree that I don't like having two member search routines.. 11:47 khall Joubu: yeah, it's not the best way to have it, but that's a separate bug basically. 11:47 Joubu khall: the queries are not the same 11:47 khall yeah, but the search in C4::Utils::Datatables::Member has regressions. So it seems most logical to have C4::Utils::Datatables::Member use C4::Members::Search to get the patron data to convert into datatable format 11:47 Joubu khall: the previous behavior was : search on attributes if no result in "standard" fields 11:46 Joubu just 1 or 2 occurrences it seems 11:46 Joubu khall: not a lot. 11:45 Joubu khall: sorry, read too fast 11:45 cait i am wondering it would make sense to add those to the xslt - we have a few 11:45 khall Joubu: other parts of Koha use C4::Members::Search 11:45 khall I don't think C4::Utils::Datatables::Member should be removed, 11:45 cait quick question... has a library of yours asked to display something ddc classifications or 84 so far? 11:45 Joubu khall: not really a problem. C4::Members::Search should be removed 11:44 khall Joubu: that's the problem 11:44 Joubu khall: I am not sure you answer me correctly. The both Search routine are completly differents 11:43 Joubu khall: It's not possible to remove C4::Utils::Datatables::Member 11:28 khall mornin ashimema! 11:27 ashimema morning khall 11:21 cait our xslt to make the material types and things is ... ocnfusing 11:21 cait me too 11:21 * khall is getting very confused ; ) 11:21 wahanui cait: I forgot morning khall :) 11:21 cait forget morning khall :) 11:21 cait forget morning khall 11:21 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, indradg 11:21 indradg wahanui: who is schrodinger? 11:20 wahanui morning khall :) are you a dad yet? 11:20 cait morning khall :)? 11:20 cait mirning khall :)? 11:20 wahanui morning is a state of cat 11:20 khall morning! 11:20 indradg morning khall 11:20 indradg lol 11:19 wahanui khall: sorry... 11:19 khall wahanui: I've been a dad for months now! 11:19 wahanui morning khall :) are you a dad yet? 11:19 cait morning khall :) 11:18 khall mornin cait et al! 10:55 * cait goes back to reading it 10:55 cait not an idea exactly.. more a gneral complaint 10:55 cait our results xslt is very ugly. 10:35 Joubu we need ideas! 10:34 marcelr too many people have too many ideas.. 10:34 marcelr :) 10:34 Joubu I thought I proposed a better way to do :) 10:32 marcelr if that is a real need, isn't there a better way to do it? 10:31 Joubu the need was to call biblioitem instead of biblioitemnumber. That's why I kept this idea 10:31 Joubu look at the new belongs_to relations the patch added 10:30 Joubu +++ b/Koha/Schema/Result/Item.pm 10:30 Joubu http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=27345 10:30 Joubu marcelr: It was one of the main goal of the first patch 10:29 marcelr i do not like to define something to replace a bad name 10:28 marcelr that's my point 10:28 Joubu marcelr: yes, the relation is badly named :) 10:28 Joubu it makes more sense, I think 10:28 marcelr Joubu: the relation is called biblioitemnumber 10:28 Joubu marcelr: yes but it's better to call $biblio->biblioitem->items than $biblio->biblioitemnumber->items 10:28 ashimema Yeah.. I'm reading the code again.. but I'm still a bit of a dbic rookie 10:27 marcelr ? 10:27 Joubu marcelr: "There is no need to define biblioitem routines, if we can access them via biblioitemnumber." 10:27 marcelr you can do it too of course, ashimema ? 10:27 ashimema that's probably best marcelr.. 10:26 marcelr you asked them to look at it.. 10:26 marcelr i will ask kyle, galen or tomas then 10:25 marcelr ok 10:25 Joubu yep 10:25 marcelr you saw that i added a followup? 10:25 Joubu marcelr: not me, but others saw problems :) 10:24 marcelr you see a problem? 10:24 Joubu marcelr: I would prefer someone else to sign it off. 10:23 ashimema khall_away ping 10:20 marcelr Joubu: could you sign off on the last follow-up for 11518 please ? 10:01 ColinC I think theres a market for a 'Basic accountancy for programmers' book 09:58 ashimema cheers 09:58 ashimema I understand now.. 09:57 ColinC gross = price exclusive of allowances and charges 09:56 ColinC net = price minus allowances & discounts plus charges (i.e. what you actually pay supplier for goods) 09:55 ashimema pre discount/surcharge.. that sort of thing? 09:55 ashimema which makes sense.. but what else differentiates gross and net if it's not tax? 09:54 ColinC Not really if you are an accountant you want to keep the tax column separate from the goods column 09:53 ashimema what's the differentiating factor between net and gross in edi terms then? 09:53 ashimema both net and gross exclude tax.. that's really wierd. 09:53 Joubu I am going to sent an email to koha-devel to ask some thought about our discussion. 09:50 ColinC both the net and gross exclude tax as that is in a separate field 09:49 ashimema madnes 09:49 ColinC (calculation_price_net calculation_price_gross information_price_incl_tax information_price_excl_tax 09:46 ColinC FYI there are 4 types of price distinguished in Edifact Invoices 09:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12839 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used 09:46 Joubu bug 12839 09:46 cait lunch time here - happy to see the discussion - hope we can figure it out :) 09:43 ColinC It might be something people want to record but I cant see it affecting any operations within Koha 09:43 cait but maybe before we remove better to check - it doesn't hurt if it's just an information you can store, but should be documented that way 09:42 cait i have a feeling like it used to be used... but - i never coud find out for what 09:41 Joubu cait: it's just a boolean, at the moment 09:41 Joubu cait: it's not in used in any calculation 09:41 Joubu cait: I am going to sent a bug report for that :) 09:40 cait another question: tax registered - does it do something? is there code for it? and do we need to factor that in? 09:39 ColinC On UK invoices you usually see the terms net price and gross price 09:36 cait ah sorry - one library sent me a lit of taxes they use 09:36 cait hm looks 4 types int heir list - with different rates 09:35 cait true 09:35 ColinC For those places that dont use it GST just sounds weird but we all recognize Tax .... less baffling for translators I'd think 09:34 cait see my last comment in future enh 09:34 cait ColinC: even more types here i learned... 09:34 ColinC Just looking at Edifact invoices and tax may be of 3 types VAT | GST or Duty ... I think just using tax in Koha is much clearer 09:31 ColinC definitely 09:29 Joubu cait: it makes sense to me 09:28 cait What do people think of not using gst/vat but just tax? 09:28 cait ColinC: as native speaking commenter... you get bonus points for suggesting something that makes sense :) 09:26 Joubu That's why I told that recommended_retail_price_excluding_tax is too looong 09:26 ColinC Its been supplanted by list price as RRP was also associated with a now obsolete book trade legal framework 09:26 Joubu "rrp_et => recommended retail price excluding tax " :) 09:25 ColinC In the UK RRP was the standard book trade term for recommended retail price 09:25 Joubu magnuse: that's it 09:25 * magnuse thought rrp = recommended retail price 09:25 Joubu yes, that's why I changed the description in the RFC 09:24 cait i thik replacement cost was just wrong, not sure where that came from 09:24 Joubu what they represent will be the same as before 09:23 Joubu for exclude and include tax 09:23 Joubu ColinC: I kept all the field names, just added _et and _it 09:23 ColinC I think if rrp = replacement cost we should use replacement_cost 09:22 ColinC I think at some point in the rfc theres a list of price fields we should ensure the definitions are in the code doc 09:22 Joubu and rrp (replacement cost on the interface) == listprice adjusted for the currency 09:22 Joubu actually the listprice DB field == "Vendor price" on the interface 09:21 cait it seems we have rrp and listprice, and also unit price ... and gah. 09:21 cait yeah i got confused there too 09:21 Joubu are 09:21 Joubu ColinC: no, there is a listprice and a rpp field 09:20 ColinC Yes but isnt that just list_price? 09:20 Joubu I am completely up for discussion on the names. 09:19 Joubu recommended_retail_price_including_tax is quite long, don't you think?: ) 09:18 ColinC use full terms like list_price etc 09:17 Joubu 3/ "We should probably avoid truncated names": What do you suggest? 09:17 ColinC yes an "approved" Koha monetary type 09:16 Joubu and we need to have the same type for all fields storing prices 09:16 Joubu 2/ About the rounding: I planned to add a syspref to manage the number of decimal. So we will need something like decimal(13,4) in DB, I think 09:15 ColinC No in previous discussions of it 09:15 Joubu What do you mean by "I've seen at least 3 contradictory defnitions of the RRP acronym". On the RFC or on master? 09:14 Joubu Hi ColinC :) Thanks for your notes on the tax RFC. 09:13 ashimema Joubu.. he's just kicking his irc client into life now ;) 09:08 ashimema I can probably get him to come on here.. one tic 09:08 Joubu ashimema: just ask him something about the notes he let on the tax rfc. It's not urgent 09:07 ashimema did you want him for somthing? 09:07 ashimema think he's head down in edi at the minute.. 09:06 ashimema He's not on IRC at the minute.. 09:01 Joubu ashimema: Colin is not here? 08:49 ashimema I'll have a read of the problem Joubu and get back to you if my brain starts to work ;) 08:48 cait bit grumpy i missed it :) 08:48 cait sorry, i have to pass 08:44 Joubu it's a major one, I can provide a patch quickly But I don't know how to fix it cleanly 08:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12833 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Patron search no longer searches extended attributes 08:43 Joubu bug 12833 08:43 Joubu Does someone have a good idea for 12833? 08:42 cait maybe i can try to do another simple one sometime... but ... gah. distance study first right now :( 08:41 cait ok 08:41 cait i think you said you will use it for the acq? 08:41 Joubu cait: I plan to add colvis to the acq tables (after the rewrite) 08:41 cait i know... time is always the big problem 08:41 cait Joubu: do you think there will be some time to expand the colvis things now that the base it's in? 08:39 marcelr they should not have been there at all 08:39 marcelr ok 08:39 Joubu marcelr: and the Closure* files are old and unused files 08:38 indradg cait http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/indian-library-association 08:38 marcelr yeah i saw that 08:38 Joubu "The need is to provide some examples on how use this module for further uses." 08:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests 08:37 Joubu marcelr: I answered Marc in comment 9 (bug 12603) 08:37 cait and then... wemight be able to implement the other crazy schemes too 08:36 cait i am lookig forward to see that code improved and centralized as much as possible 08:36 Joubu ashimema: I started with some refactoring, to make the code more readable. That's why I need feedback (cf my email on koha-devel yesterday) 08:36 cait Joubu: i will try to keep on it as well 08:34 Joubu ashimema: thanks! good to know 08:34 indradg s/materials/materialise/ 08:34 indradg the VAT chargebacks that do not materials for an overseas sale 08:34 ashimema I will certainly be following the series with interest Joubu.. you have our support here.. I know Colin will also be wathcing it for changes so he can keep the EDI stuff in line :) 08:33 cait indradg: that's true here too :) 08:33 indradg cait: plus there is more madness when the books and journals or their subscriptions are foreign sourced 08:33 cait but gathering use cases will certainly be good 08:33 Joubu cait: yes, the main goal is to rewrite and fix existing bugs. 08:32 cait indradg: so far i think we could put it into a general system, with some custom pull downs 08:32 ashimema indeed.. 08:32 cait but i think first we need to consolidate(?) the current feature set 08:32 indradg kinda reminds me of early days of programming for NN and IE :P 08:31 indradg we actually might need geography specific switches 08:31 cait so we can keep it in mind and maybe think of ways to not make it harder to implement 08:31 cait to have them online somewhere 08:31 Joubu it's a global conspiracy! 08:31 cait Joubu: don't get scared, but i will try to add the use cases they send me to your wiki page 08:30 cait it's global madness! 08:30 cait ... 08:30 cait ok, so we also got that in india 08:30 indradg cait: in india books and journals attract sales tax, the subscriptions of serials or online resources sales + service tax and if a DVD then sales tax + VAT and service tax if a subscription 08:29 ashimema cheers 08:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , GST / VAT rewrite 08:29 Joubu bug 12825 08:29 Joubu oops 08:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1825 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Hold awaiting pickup seems incorrect. 08:29 Joubu the omnibus is bug 1825 08:28 cait hm C4:Acquisitions that is 08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12827 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , NewOrder returns basketno 08:28 Joubu bug 12827 08:28 cait Joubu: i like the idea of splitting up the ACQ thing 08:28 ashimema brill 08:28 Joubu ashimema: a series of bugs, of course. I already started. 08:28 ashimema but then I'm not the one doing the coding.. i'm mostly interested in making sure it gets throuh once you've put all the hard work in ;) 08:28 cait so would be good and try not to make that too hard as a next scary step 08:27 ashimema I'm also pretty keen to see rangi's approach taken.. write tests first :) 08:27 cait i think first we need to move over... but we also should keep in mind that we might want a 1: n in the future 08:27 ashimema I'm thinking a series will be much easier to split accross the qa/signoff team people 08:27 cait good question 08:27 ashimema Joubu.. are you intending on doing this as series of bugs.. or one monster bug.. 08:26 Joubu cait: Ok. I don't plan to include it in the development. But I keep it in mind. 08:25 cait Joubu: book with dvd - book is a book... dvd is a service... so different tax rates applying - things like that 08:24 cait Joubu: it seems to be a thing in the EU 08:24 indradg in the meanwhile have put up patches for the two typos and that accidental license deletion in about.tt 08:24 wahanui hmmm... bad news is that you're probably royally screwed 08:24 cait Joubu: bad news 08:24 ashimema and one of us will take a look at signing it off again. 08:23 ashimema deffo set the status back to needs sign off then 08:23 indradg ashimema: nope! I've not written single line for the prog opac template, the opac-bottom.inc has quite a different structure 08:19 ashimema I can't see what M Tompsett is talking about.. there's not bad prog references in the current patch set.. so maybe you already fixed it. 08:18 ashimema indradg.. I think you cna also switch status on that bug from 'failed qa' to 'needs signoff' 08:12 Joubu indradg: it's what I undestand... 08:12 indradg Joubu: thank you :-) 08:12 ashimema indradg: which patches are still relevant 08:12 Joubu indradg: the SO patch should be obsoleted 08:11 ashimema damn that bug has got confusing. 08:11 Joubu indradg: it seems Marc (Véron) started to SO it, but found an issue at the end. And did not finish to SO 08:10 Joubu indradg: the patches are not SO 08:09 indradg am I supposed to obsolete it or do nothing? 08:08 indradg cait ^^^ that's why i asked 08:08 indradg Joubu: I'm :-) however, in the meanwhile, some enlightenment on what to do with this -> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=31223&action=edit will be great :) 08:07 cait indradg: the sign offer should switch to 'signed off' and then qa sees it and will get to it... as soon as time permits 08:06 Joubu indradg: wait for the qa :) 08:04 indradg cait: figure out what I'm supposed to do when i receive a sign-off 08:03 ashimema Colins added some comments to the tx RFC for us now :) 08:02 ashimema seems noone rally knows it well enough to give a sensible answer 08:02 ashimema Yeah.. 08:01 cait indradg: what do you want to do? :) 08:01 marcelr take a look, do not buy (dutch shopping) 08:00 marcelr kijken, niet kopen 08:00 marcelr everybody takes a look, but you had no answers so far.. 07:59 Joubu http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2014-07-09#i_1534491 07:58 indradg hi... is by any chance a sign-off message supposed to come into the bugzilla as an attachment / a patch? 07:58 Joubu marcelr: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2014-07-18#i_1538117 07:58 Joubu marcelr: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2014-07-07#i_1533537 07:58 ashimema and comment 6 is Kyles alternate followup patch 07:57 ashimema comment 5 is the golden goose 07:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests 07:56 ashimema bug 12603 07:56 Joubu (actually I thought I sent an email to koha-devel, but I don't find any mark of that) 07:56 marcelr ashimema: where specifically? 07:56 ashimema but I need some clarification before moving further on either approach.. 07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 07:55 ashimema marcelr.. there's a followup in the TestBuilder stuff that I 'think' achieves the same thing as Joubu's followup in bug 11518 but in a totally different way.. 07:55 marcelr too bad that you cannot see it on the report itself 07:54 Joubu marcelr: I asked some people to have a look, but it did not obtained unanimous agreement 07:53 marcelr yes, but it will not receive much attention in this status 07:52 Joubu marcelr: it is a patch for discussion. 07:51 marcelr i did not look at TestBuilder actually 07:51 ashimema I waiting for khall to turn up so I can quiz him on a few bits 07:50 ashimema That's the bit that's holding me back on passing TestBuilder marcelr ;) 07:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 07:49 marcelr Joubu: you still have a non-pushed patch on bug 11518 which is in Pushed to master-state; so it will probably be ignored? 07:49 cait .. congratulations? 07:48 ashimema where a single item can have multiple tax rates applied to it 07:48 ashimema cait.. we have that issue too in the UK it seems. 07:42 cait yes 07:41 ashimema that one right? 07:41 ashimema http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/GST_Rewrite_RFC 07:41 cait the requirements, not the rfc 07:40 cait i will try to add more comments... but i am not sure it will help solve all the craziness 07:40 cait ashimema: not much on the wiki so far 07:40 * ashimema heads off to check 07:40 ashimema hope they bothered to comment on it. 07:40 ashimema I'm sure I asked a couple of our libraries to look at the tax rfc.. 07:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , multiple holds per title 07:39 ashimema bug 7710 07:27 cait i guess ultimately there will have to be different apporaches available to solve this 07:26 marcelr hi cait: yes i noticed thx 07:26 cait marcelr: it seems dcook is also thinking about multiple holds, did you see his comment on 7710? 07:26 cait entries that combine to a total 07:25 cait a system to not ony have a total, but varous entries... i think that could be useful in different cases - like customs, freight, different services, etc. 07:25 cait i think the idea to be able to split costs i can undertand 07:25 Joubu ... 07:24 huginn cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 07:24 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 07:24 cait @quote get 123 07:24 Joubu or it's just a Germany specific crazy idea? 07:24 cait :) 07:24 cait not sure, but i wouldn't rule it out 07:24 Joubu But this can happen somewhere else than Germany? 07:24 cait but it's good to get told what acq needs, better to know... 07:24 cait i am still a little scared 07:24 cait type - gst rate - amount or something 07:23 cait i thik the problem really is, that you'd need a way to specifiy partial costs with different taxes, like what francharb wanted for freight, but not a freight field only but something repeatable with a type 07:23 Joubu hum, I don't know :) 07:22 cait i am trying to imagine how that woudl look like on the page - the 7 and 19 percent taxes for the same thing... thing 07:22 Joubu cait: where do you would like to set a 1:n relationship? between aqorders and ? 07:19 cait and if it would make sense to have that calculatons in a separate table then to allow for 1:n relationships to an order line later... 07:18 cait how they do that... 2 parts of taxes for the same thing? 07:18 cait i wonder 07:18 cait it totally is 07:18 Joubu cait: whaou, it's crazy! 07:17 * indradg is a blind fool! 07:16 magnuse "buying books" - it sounds so simple... 07:16 magnuse such fun! 07:16 cait oh and last but not least: order from one vendor - pay another 07:15 * cait is horrified heh 07:15 magnuse kia ora cait! 07:15 cait and different taxes for the same thing - like a print serial with online access - because electronic is 19 and print is 7... 07:14 cait it can be necessary to have 2 different invoices for 2 different vendors for one book, because customs gets a part and then the bookseller gets a part 07:14 cait or acq in genearl 07:14 * cait learned things about taxes today she didn't want to know 07:12 ashimema ;) 07:12 ashimema its a great start.. neither of us has enough time to really work on them though 07:12 Joubu ashimema: yes there are a loooot of enh to dev for sandboxes. And the code is not really friendly... 07:11 Joubu apparently not the DB it seems 07:10 ashimema adding an option to say I want this sandbox for x days (within reason) 07:10 ashimema that's another enhancement I was thinking of doing.. 07:09 ashimema Thought so.. 07:09 Joubu and the DB is drop/recreate 07:09 Joubu ashimema: no, the src is reset to master 07:09 ashimema I don't recall it checking your test branch back out after the master update 07:08 ashimema remind me.. can you test over multiple days with the current setup.. i't sbeen a while since I looked at the code. 07:08 ashimema Yeah.. I was thinking that.. 07:08 ashimema at some point I should take the effort to make it work both ways (multi-tenant and single-tenant) then send you a pull request 07:07 Joubu ashimema: actually both should be done: if a sandbox does not receive a request for 1 month, the git fetch will be quite long 07:07 ashimema I still have to run a very slightly different versino to you.. as we're running them all on one vm here on a multi-tenant setup 07:06 Joubu Yes, this should be like that 07:06 ashimema so your 'always' up to date. 07:06 ashimema I was saying to indradg that I was tempted to add a sync to master as part of the sandbox setup call.. 07:05 Joubu yep 07:05 Joubu indradg: something to know: the sandboxes update the Koha src at midnight GMT (or something like that). 07:05 ashimema Joubu.. your snadboxes still sync to master on a nightly basis don't they ? 07:03 indradg Joubu, my cluelessness about the time of re-sync with master :P 07:03 Joubu indradg: What happened on sandbox 7? 07:02 indradg morning Joubu 07:02 Joubu Hello 07:00 indradg :) 06:58 ashimema me more often than many I reckon 06:58 ashimema we all do it from time to time.. 06:58 dcook Although I double-check everything and write out everything to the point that no one will want to read what I put ;) 06:58 dcook I think I've gotten a bit better in 2014 06:57 dcook Yeah, I used to make a complete display of ignorance quite often in 2012 and 2013 I think 06:57 dcook Hehe 06:57 indradg so, just wanted to sure, before i made a complete display of ignorance :) 06:56 dcook indradg: Ahh, fair enough :) 06:56 dcook But that's due to a different policy decision... 06:56 indradg dcook: heh... i know that... mtompset's left a comment on my patch that had me scratching my head 06:56 * dcook doesn't even use holds at his local library 06:55 dcook Totally 06:55 marcelr holds are 06:55 dcook marcelr: Glad to hear it :). I do think it's a really tricky one :/. 06:54 dcook If I recall correctly 06:54 dcook indradg: We only have a prog theme, but it includes bootstrap in it 06:54 dcook indradg: Well, that's a good question. 06:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , multiple holds per title 06:52 marcelr dcook: bug 7710 has my attention too 06:52 indradg at the risk of sounding like a crackpot, we don't have a 'bootstrap' in the staff client.. do we? 06:52 magnuse probably not looking for a signff then :-) 06:52 marcelr hi dcook 06:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6786 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, False detection of index names in Search; make index names case insensitive 06:51 marcelr bug 6786 06:51 wahanui somebody said marcelr was looking for a signoff on follow up 6786 06:51 magnuse and marcelr 06:51 dcook :) 06:51 magnuse hiya dcook 06:51 * dcook waves to reiveune, magnuse, and marcelr 06:51 dcook ++ for all! 06:46 marcelr hi magnuse 06:46 magnuse marcelr++ for not giving up on sru! 06:45 wahanui what's up, reiveune 06:45 reiveune hello 06:43 ashimema :-) 06:42 marcelr time to finish that :) 06:42 marcelr hi ashimena 06:42 ashimema cheers for persevering so on the SRU patches marcelr 06:34 marcelr hi #koha 06:32 ashimema your welcome 06:32 indradg ashimema++ :D 06:32 indradg thats awesome! 06:31 ashimema is the latest commit on them all.. 06:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12176 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Passed QA , Remove HTML from additem.pl 06:31 ashimema Bug 12176 - Remove HTML from additem.pl 06:31 ashimema now you can pick and choose 06:31 ashimema I just went ahead and updated all of them 06:29 ashimema ok.. sandbox0 and sandbox1 are now synced with master. 06:28 indradg ashimema: that would be nice :) 06:28 ashimema I can manually update one for you if you like? 06:28 indradg ok 06:28 ashimema I was tempted to resync ever time a sandbox was requested.. but that ended up with a larger number of failing to apply 06:28 indradg ashimema: that explains the hash fails :) 06:27 ashimema for instance.. this morning they are behind master by one commit. 06:27 indradg ashimema: thanks :) 06:25 ashimema at 1.15 am GMT 06:25 ashimema nightly 06:24 wahanui OK, indradg. 06:24 indradg wahanui for a bot, you are wise 06:24 indradg I've a question for you, how frequently are your sandboxes synced with koha master? 06:23 indradg morning ashimema 06:20 wahanui sleep is an addiction that can be cured! 06:20 cait sleep? 06:19 ashimema do you ever sleep cait? 06:19 ashimema hi cait 06:19 * cait waves 06:18 ashimema my cat certainly is wanting breakfast 06:18 ashimema that's a new one wahanui.. 06:16 wahanui hmmm... ashimema is on qa now .) 06:16 dcook heya ashimema 06:16 wahanui Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. 06:16 ashimema morning. 06:01 cait ? 06:01 cait which branch are you on= 06:01 cait if you do a git branch in the git repositoriy of git bz 06:01 cait so it learned to use your login information 06:01 cait normally git bz would use a cookie to see if you are logged into bugzilla, but we changed it because on a server - no cookies 06:00 cait i think it does look more like a config thing to me, because it seems to try to do something with the cookie 06:00 cait hm not sure 05:59 indradg i don't see anything that shouldn't be the way it should 05:58 indradg cait ^^ 05:58 pastebot "indradg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait: my ~/.gitconfig" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/178 05:51 indradg hmmm 05:51 cait i'd check you have set your bugzilla login 05:51 cait hm 05:50 indradg :-( 05:50 indradg cait: followed the wiki link to the T; python v 2.7.4 and pointed to by /usr/bin/python 05:49 pastebot "indradg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is the error I'm facing" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/177 05:48 cait important is to check out the fishsoup branch and set the git variables 05:48 cait i think it shoudl be all there 05:48 wahanui hmmm... git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 05:48 cait git-bz? 05:48 indradg hi... how do i configure git-bz? 05:22 cait not weirder than nzers i would say 05:22 cait :P 05:22 wahanui germany is where germs come from. Ask me about germs. 05:22 eythian wahanui: germany 05:22 eythian I just figured it's how Germans tend to do things, they are a bit weird after all :) 05:21 eythian oh 05:21 eythian ? 05:21 cait i think that's from a tv series or something 05:21 cait heh 05:20 cait hi eythian :) 05:19 eythian hi cait 05:18 cait morning dcook :) 05:18 dcook hey cait :) 03:21 dcook Tomcat...you're no fun to use... no fun at all.. 02:19 indradg yes ma'am! 02:19 indradg heh 02:19 wizzyrea yep nw, now go to bed :) 02:19 indradg thank you wizzyrea 02:18 indradg dang! 02:18 wizzyrea yeah I just did everything that is on the bug, they all apply :) 02:15 * indradg needs to read more on git #notetoself 02:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha 02:15 indradg wizzyrea: could you find a moment to see if patches 1 - 4 of bug 12815 applies or not? i wasted almost 5 hours thinking I was doing something wrong :( 02:14 wizzyrea indradg: those patches apply fine on master for me - I'd say the fault lies with the sandbox. 02:12 wizzyrea *almost* never. 02:12 wizzyrea me either. 02:12 eythian I almost never use pull 02:12 wizzyrea but there's also a part of me that likes seeing both parts. 02:11 wizzyrea eythian: I keep meaning to change my default behaviour of git pull. 02:11 wizzyrea yeah looks like it's not up to date 02:10 indradg s/happpens/happened/ 02:10 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded. 02:10 indradg @later tell Joubu can you please confirm on biblibre sandboxes. this happens on sandbox 7 02:08 indradg wizzyrea ^^^ 02:08 indradg and this is the error in this case - http://pastebin.com/H3PHQZGm 02:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12539 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove hardcoded theme from C4/Templates.pm 02:07 indradg wizzyrea: hmmm btw, just tried with bug 12539 that rangi requested for sign-offs 02:03 wizzyrea I'd suspect the sandbox needs to fetch/pull 02:03 wizzyrea ^^ 02:02 eythian they may not be totally current. 02:02 eythian the patches are probably based off a hash that the sandboxes don't have 02:01 indradg eythian: same patches attached in bugzilla, and yet sandbox is barfing :( 01:54 eythian that's what I'd expect 01:53 indradg wizzyrea, eythian 01:53 indradg no complaint... nothing... code runs 01:53 indradg then git am -3 -i -u <patch> 01:52 indradg created a branch qa_bug_12815 as if I was testing someone else's patch 01:52 indradg ok! this is getting slightly crazy! about 4 hours back I did a fresh kohaclone. Just to be sure. mv-ed my kohaclone out of the way, brought in the 4 hour old repo backup. 01:49 eythian assuming there's a tracking branch set, which there should be 01:49 eythian wizzyrea: git pull --rebase does that 01:45 indradg wizzyrea: while being on your working branch? 01:45 wizzyrea indradg ^ 01:44 wizzyrea I usually do git fetch && git rebase origin/master to get my master branch up to date 01:44 wizzyrea maybe you need to git fetch? 01:28 eythian how many patches away from master is it? 01:20 indradg I get -> Current branch bug_12815 is up to date. 01:19 indradg when i run -> git rebase origin/master 01:19 indradg dcook: nope... my own stuff 01:12 dcook I've seen that happen when the author needs to rebase their patch against master 01:11 dcook Is that someone else's patch you're testing? 01:10 indradg my local repo is synced up 01:10 indradg Cannot fall back to three-way merge. 01:10 indradg Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. 01:10 indradg dcook: i keep getting -> fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt). 01:08 dcook indradg: :( 01:06 indradg s/fox/foxed 01:06 * indradg is completely fox with this sandbox error in patch application 00:58 dcook I mean...certain modules can be scary, but overall... if you follow the string you'll get there 00:58 dcook As much as we might complain about Koha at times, it really does have a fairly low bar to entry 00:57 dcook Oh ho, I think it's just a config change 00:57 dcook Bleargh. 00:57 dcook I don't mind the writing Java part. It's just the recompiling time. 00:56 dcook I really hope this doesn't require me to write Java and recompile... 00:55 dcook Hmm, grep letting me down.. 00:55 dcook As for DSpace... I suppose that's why we have grep 00:55 wizzyrea that's less helpful. 00:54 dcook I think my wife might've moved the USB though :p 00:54 * dcook would listen to music while studying, and found humming to himself really helped recall stuff 00:54 dcook I used to use that music trick 00:54 dcook It's a good idea 00:54 wizzyrea where were you the last time you had it? what were you doing? was it a special day? were there any strange smells? were you listening to specific music? 00:53 wizzyrea to remind you 00:53 wizzyrea you need to find the right stimulus 00:53 * dcook says having no idea where his LiveUSB of Ubuntu has wandered off to... 00:53 dcook How hard can it be to remember something that's been forgotten? 00:53 dcook Ok, done all the things I know how to do now...now to remember how to do the things I've forgotten how to do :p 00:26 eythian *uploaded 00:26 eythian 3.16.03 packages uploading 00:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12642 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SMS.t requires a database 00:00 eythian gmcharlt: I think that bug 12642 ought to go into 3.16 too