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23:59 eythian yeah
23:58 dcook 3.14.3?
23:56 eythian oh yeah, I have package building to do
23:51 dcook yep
23:51 eythian yeah, that needs to be renamed
23:50 dcook Although that su-na thing is...just ick
23:50 dcook No idea why that's happening but could be remedied fairly easily (I think)
23:50 dcook I think it's PQF.pm or something that manually adds those aliases/indexes into the QP config
23:50 dcook I think they could work without queryparser, if ccl.properties were updated
23:49 dcook yarp
23:49 eythian ick
23:49 dcook For a totally different purpose
23:49 dcook As it's actually defined in ccl.properties as well
23:49 dcook su-na is nasty
23:49 dcook You might notice that one of them does work
23:49 eythian su-br and su-na etc
23:49 dcook Yeah, that drives me a bit nuts
23:49 eythian yeah
23:49 dcook mmm, those subject ones, eh?
23:48 eythian the issue here is that there are some advanced searches that don't work without query parser, but show up anyway (which strikes me as bad)
23:48 * dcook would so love people to give him some money to improve QP
23:48 eythian Ah right
23:48 dcook I shut it down pretty fast as it wasn't working well enough
23:48 dcook But... maybe I'm imagining that about the opac
23:48 dcook Although opac seemed ok
23:47 dcook I noticed it seemed to break simple search in 3.14.5 in intra
23:47 dcook Hmm. Could be.
23:46 eythian > Enabling UseQueryParser breaks all searching in opac and simple search in intra unless a field is manually specified
23:45 eythian dcook: this is 3.12.10 ('s ok, we're planning an upgrade RSN :)
23:40 dcook Just realized LJ could be LiveJournal or Library Journal. Hmmm
23:40 * dcook stalks gmcharlt's LJ mover and shaker page
23:35 dcook eythian^
23:35 dcook Unsure if that's a bug or something broken on my end though.
23:34 dcook In the staff client, I have noticed that non-advanced searches don't seem to work in 3.14.5
23:34 dcook In the OPAC, no - non-advanced searches should work
23:34 dcook In the OPAC or the staff client?
23:34 * dcook ponders
23:20 eythian dcook: would enabling QueryParser cause non-advanced searches to stop working?
23:07 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
23:07 eythian @later tell cait http://youtu.be/zcOhrtAFc-Y <-- things are different in Germany eh
22:43 wahanui niihau, eythian
22:43 eythian hi
22:13 WNickC thx
22:08 wizzyrea :) nice one
21:59 WNickC making web pretty, not my skillset
21:58 WNickC well, I put this there http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Open_Z39.50_Sources
21:55 wizzyrea but probably 1, nobody needs another place to look.
21:55 wizzyrea or have our own equivalent to irspy.
21:55 wizzyrea actually I'd rather either make sure our targets are listed in irspy
21:53 wizzyrea yeah that's probably a better place :)
21:31 bag http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide
21:30 bag wizzyrea: I just clicked on a link - didn't want to make it only US :) if you go back one page - it's all broken out
21:29 WNickC yeah, I think I might do that
21:28 wizzyrea or add to that one but I don't see why it has to be US only
21:27 wizzyrea Could just make a wiki page
21:26 bag yup
21:26 WNickC like in solidarity or somthing?
21:26 WNickC bag: yeah, I like IRSpy, just thought it would be nice to have some Koha targets specifically
21:25 wahanui hi, bag
21:25 bag magnuse: HI THERE
21:25 magnuse bag: HI
21:25 bag if you want a nice list of Z3950 targets - I use this a bunch http://irspy.indexdata.com/
21:24 bag but I'm an wrong
21:24 bag I thought it was somewhere like this page http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/NorthAmerica
21:22 WNickC I didn't see one
21:21 bag hmm I think we may have started a list on the wiki awhile ago? not sure
21:21 WNickC cover=blown
21:21 bag yeah WNickC is from Vokal
21:21 WNickC was really thinking it would be nice to have a list of open z39.50s for koha
21:20 * wizzyrea has too many libraries stuffed into her head now
21:20 WNickC I thought we did, but I don't think we publicize it anywhere
21:20 wizzyrea oh vokal I should have thought of them too.
21:20 cait yay vokal
21:20 bag BTW WNickC vokal has their z3950 open
21:20 wizzyrea gl WNickC
21:20 WNickC thanks all
21:20 wizzyrea not that early.
21:20 wizzyrea well early, 9:30
21:19 wizzyrea It's early and the sun is shining!
21:19 wizzyrea :)
21:19 wizzyrea BING BING BING BING
21:19 bag HI HI HI HI wizzyrea
21:19 WNickC yeah, I just wnated to see if it was common or not before asking consortia and then Bywater
21:19 wizzyrea bywater bywater bywater bywater
21:19 bag yup
21:19 * wizzyrea suspects bag has an alert on the word bywater
21:19 bag yeah we have quite a few that are opened up
21:19 bag hey cait and wizzyrea
21:18 cait i was about to suggest to ask bywater if they know of libraires with activated z39.50 :)
21:18 wizzyrea hi bag.
21:18 cait ah here is bag :)
21:18 wizzyrea >.>
21:18 wizzyrea Larry can be convinced
21:18 bag ha
21:18 WNickC and she'll know if Larry endorses the idea or nit
21:18 wizzyrea she'll know if it's public or not.
21:18 WNickC we all shared a bunch of our sources at NAKUG, but none of us shared our own
21:17 wizzyrea can't hurt, just email heather
21:17 wizzyrea it's made no apparent impact on the performance of the system
21:17 WNickC oh, maybe I should ask NExpress then since we are both Bywater
21:17 wizzyrea we have a Crown Research Institute that offers one
21:17 wizzyrea NExpress does I think
21:17 cait maybe some of the bigger consortias offer z3950 to their koha systems?
21:16 cait WNickC: i think the reason we didn't get asked to is that the records are in the union catalog and that offers a z3950
21:16 wizzyrea :) thanks :)
21:16 wizzyrea and yeah, depends on usage
21:16 cait hi wizzyrea - and (belated) happy birthday!
21:16 wizzyrea negligible*
21:16 wizzyrea WNickC: it's negliglble.
21:16 cait :)
21:15 WNickC or maybe I am being idealistic
21:15 WNickC would be nice to see us pulling from other Koha users
21:15 WNickC just noticing that all our incoming sources are INNOPAC or HORIZON
21:14 cait not sure, we haven't been asked to do that so far
21:14 cait hm would think so
21:14 WNickC I mean I suppose it depends on use
21:14 ashimema night #koha
21:13 ashimema time for bed..
21:13 WNickC just randomly, does anyone happen to know what impact, if any, opening a library as a Z39.50 source has on system performance?
20:57 andrew_ its fine. :)
20:57 cait sorry to be not more helpful
20:57 andrew_ Well thanks for your help. I guess I'd better go and get working on them
20:55 andrew_ agreed
20:55 cait without reneweing
20:55 cait waiving fines on books the patron still has is the tricky part i think
20:55 andrew_ I guess I just figured that there had to be someone else somewhere who wanted to forgive all fines one time but I guess not.
20:54 andrew_ ok
20:54 cait i'd suggest honestly to just waive the fines on return of the books
20:54 andrew_ oh its fine.
20:54 cait sorry - not having a good idea right now
20:53 cait hm.
20:53 andrew_ I already tried it :)
20:52 andrew_ nope
20:52 cait but that won't fix your reappearing fines problem i think
20:52 cait entry
20:52 cait i think it will also change the amountoutstanding of the fine
20:52 andrew_ and thats where I got stuck and started googling like crazy till i just came here
20:51 andrew_ I found that when you go in koha and writeoff a fine it adds a new entry in the database that just says write off and has the amount but I havne' figured out how it knows what it is paying of because the item number is null
20:50 andrew_ I also figured out how to do that, but the library staff wants to know if someone still has an overdue book but just not charge fines on it. It is possible but involves manually going through and paying all the fines for that book.
20:50 cait there is also a preference that will recalculate the fne from the due date on return... that could give you trouble too
20:49 cait so you also need to renew I tink
20:49 andrew_ I can change all of the fines to 0 but then as soon as I manually run the script it redoes it
20:49 cait it gets recalculated - over night or on return
20:49 andrew_ that was one problem I ran into
20:48 cait but: if hte student hasn't returned the book yet, I am not sure, but i think the fine might accrue again over night - i'd check that
20:48 andrew_ ok
20:48 cait there are ways to make sure hte due date falls into the new school year
20:48 cait and then for next school year, prevent fines to accrue during summer
20:47 cait probably
20:47 cait i'd suggest doing it manually - 70 is less than an hour with a report and opening the links in a tab... and so on
20:46 andrew_ and figure out how koha works
20:46 andrew_ Around 70 and no. I just got this position this year and havne't been doing much more than trying to maintain what we have
20:45 cait also have you thought about how to prevent for next year?
20:44 cait how many students have fines?
20:44 cait i think the other thing would be to write a little program to do it
20:44 andrew_ thats possible but the head librarian doesn't want to take that route. He wanted it automated if all possible.
20:44 cait maybe you can even craft a link to the waive fines thing
20:43 cait that way you can wlak through them faster
20:43 cait write a report for the users with fines and into the report put a link to patron acount fine page
20:42 cait another suggestion to speed things up a bit
20:42 andrew_ yeah.
20:42 cait for migations i woudl have suggested deleting the lines, but htat's not very clean
20:42 andrew_ The changes I have been making have been very minor and in a vm so I have sufficient backup protection should something go wrong
20:41 cait hm ok
20:41 andrew_ This is production
20:41 cait is this a production system? or just getting started?
20:41 andrew_ We are a school library so if books were checked out before the summer they accrued fines during the summer. We wanted to clear them and start over for the school year
20:39 andrew_ I've been working on doing it through sql for the past 5 hours.
20:39 cait what is the reason you eliminate them?
20:39 cait hm you could do it with sql, i think not from the staff interface currently
20:39 andrew_ something better than manually going through and forgiving each individual fine
20:38 andrew_ We are trying to eliminate all the fines for all current patrons
20:38 cait andrew_: what are you trying to do?
20:37 * andrew_ slaps andrew_ around a bit with a large fishbot
20:34 andrew_ Hi. Does anybody have any idea on how to do a batch write-off of fines?
20:22 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:22 rangi @later tell ashimema yep, saw the comment, still think our own db astraction layer for testing is a step back not forwards, will promote less understanding of the db structure not more
19:16 indradg aah
19:14 jcamins Yeah, that's fine. When you asked me before, it sounded like you were planning on adding the line to every single file, which is why I said you needed to make it a separate patch.
19:14 indradg jcamins: thats was what I did originally and yes that had worked
19:12 jcamins Because I can think of no reason it wouldn't work, and adding one line to one file is preferable to adding one line to hundreds of files.
19:12 jcamins *?
19:12 jcamins Did you try just adding it to the .inc file
19:11 indradg jcamins: I can do that, but from what I saw, everywhere it was added it was inside a .tt file
19:10 jcamins In that same patch.
19:09 jcamins indradg: actually, I just looked at your patch, and I don't see why you can't just add [% USE Koha %] at the top of doc-head-close.
19:08 jcamins indradg: you put the patch adding the [% USE Koha %] line on that bug before the patch that adds your functionality to the staff client.
19:07 indradg the part of the patch for the staff client *depends* on that plugin being included. How do I proceed?
19:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha
19:06 indradg hi all, I need a suggestion - bug 12815 needs TT plugin include in the intranet template i.e. [%- USE Koha -&]
19:01 huginn indradg: mtompset was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 27 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a great day, #koha.
19:01 indradg @seen mtompset
19:00 indradg evening #koha
18:51 oleonard Bye #koha
18:02 wahanui i guess khall_away is familiar with DBIx::Class too, so he probably would know what to do
18:02 cait khall_away
18:02 * cait tries her new super power
18:02 cait khall_away:
17:56 ashimema right.. think I need khall to clarify what his followup to TestBuilder achieves.. then I 'think' I'm happy passing that one too..
17:55 tcohen yes, thanks oleonard
17:55 cait ashimema++ :)
17:55 oleonard-away I got a dev meeting one if that's what you mean tcohen
17:55 cait yep just now
17:53 tcohen cait: did my email hit koha-devel?
17:53 tcohen :)
17:52 ashimema :)
17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11577 new feature, P5 - low, ---, h.meissner.82, Passed QA , [ENH] Automatic renewal feature
17:52 ashimema tcohen.. you can ignore most of the last comment I make on bug 11577 then..
17:51 ashimema I couldn't see anything in the script that sets the start of a transaction to rollback to.. I must have just missed that somehow.
17:51 ashimema so it works more comprehensively than I thought..
17:50 ashimema great..
17:50 tcohen ashimema: note that AUTO_INCREMENT will keep growing even on rollback
17:50 tcohen for example addissue changes
17:49 tcohen ashimema: it rolls the db changes back
17:44 ashimema and if now.. should that be a fail ?
17:44 ashimema This test script is full of calls to things like AddIssue.. will just a dbh->rollback at the end of the test file also roll back those actions?
17:43 ashimema how does the dbh->rollback call work?
17:42 ashimema ok.. properly stupid question here..
17:39 cait tcohen: can you delegate on someone else?
17:18 cait *hides*
17:17 tcohen you need to send an email de koha-devel to be sure :-P
17:16 cait tcohen: is tuesday agreed on for the dev meeting?
17:15 tcohen "Unfortunately, the data found in the CQL-to-PQF text file must be added by hand-craft into the explain section of the YAZ Frontend Server configuration file to be able to provide a suitable explain record. Too bad, but this is all extreme new alpha stuff, and a lot of work has yet to be done .."
17:15 * tcohen facepalms about Zebra's SRU explain
17:13 tcohen ^^^^^ if I put all versions... it will grow a lot
17:13 tcohen http://snag.gy/SgGM5.jpg
17:12 tcohen just a means to avoid having zillions of tabs for each version
17:11 tcohen not *that* kind of carousel
17:11 tcohen :-P
17:11 jcamins http://shouldiuseacarousel.com/
17:11 tcohen ah, eythian showed me one
17:11 tcohen with all version + release teams
17:11 jcamins tcohen: I have a page that can help you with that.
17:10 cait :)
17:10 tcohen i was toying with a version carousel
17:10 cait i think it shouldn't go away with new releases - and in this case it's even a library contributing new features
17:10 cait having your name there :)
17:10 cait and it's all we can offer volunteers
17:10 tcohen cait: me too!
17:10 cait hm I think it's nice to have history
17:07 tcohen that's why i'm thinking on how to refactor the about page
17:07 tcohen my opinion would be that those attributions should be release-wise
17:07 ashimema I can't see any real reason why not.. just thought it worth askin in case I'de missed a policy somewhere ;)
17:07 ashimema K.. so it 'should' be ok to add it within this bug..
17:06 tcohen i don't think we have a policy for that
17:06 ashimema this bug adds a line to about.tt with the institution that sponsored this particular bug (it's actually the second bug they've sponsored with the first one already in master)
17:05 tcohen Sponsored-by: Institution on the patches?
17:05 ashimema what is our policy on adding 'contributing institutions' ?
17:04 tcohen eythian will build the more recent one soon, don't worry
17:02 ashimema I take it that means they will fail on squeeze then :(
17:01 ashimema My shib tests use subtests...
17:01 ashimema haha...
17:00 * tcohen tries to start a flame war
16:59 tcohen we just need a newer libtest-more-perl, or deprecate squeeze :-P
16:59 ashimema I'm thinking I'm going to pass TestBuilder now... but may request some other QA'ers weight in too
16:59 tcohen exactly :-D
16:59 cait tcohen: at least we are getting better :)
16:58 wahanui certainly is confusing.. thanks for bringing your attention to it.
16:58 ashimema certainly.
16:58 tcohen with a proper rollback at the end
16:58 tcohen that's why i like wrapping tests inside subtests,
16:58 * ashimema is happy now :)
16:58 ashimema haha.. thanks.
16:58 ashimema lol.. I didn't read down far enough..
16:57 tcohen heh, the relevant part was that tests pass on my box
16:57 ashimema yeah.. Circulation.t is horrible.. it randomly mangles data into and out of the database all over the shop it seems
16:57 tcohen line on the first place
16:57 tcohen because there is a $dbh->do('DELETE FROM issues');
16:57 ashimema it adds the required auto_renew column ;)
16:56 tcohen and also, you might be noticing a bug, on Koha or the tests
16:56 ashimema looks like you forgot to run updatedatabase tcohen?
16:56 tcohen ashimema: jenkins runs on top of kohastructure + all default data chosen on web installer
16:55 tcohen http://snag.gy/OPSPg.jpg
16:53 ashimema TestBuilder is basically exactly for that me thinks.
16:53 ashimema either we need a definitive test db that we all test against (which I don't really like the idea of).. or we need to build all the data for every test properly on a per test run.
16:52 ashimema It's perfectly understandable that Circulation.t dies on my setup.. the line that dies makes a bunch of assumptions that simply aren't true in my test db.
16:52 ashimema on your system you mean tcohen?
16:51 tcohen oh, dbic needs to be updated to properly test
16:49 ashimema fails after test 15 for me.. or rather.. dies after test 15 rather than fails.
16:48 ashimema I can't get the tests to actually reach his changes.. they die long before that due to db constraint failures on my test db.
16:48 cait i tried, fails for me after 24
16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11577 new feature, P5 - low, ---, h.meissner.82, Signed Off , [ENH] Automatic renewal feature
16:48 ashimema anyone fancy grabbing bug 11577 and running a prove on db_dependant/Circulation.t
16:47 wahanui which one is probably that? The fixed navbar?
16:47 tcohen which one?
16:47 ashimema :'(
16:47 ashimema Hmm.. I tihnk to QA this patch I'm going to have to blow away my test database and start again..
16:46 tcohen same here
16:46 ashimema I know that feeling.
16:45 gmcharlt ashimema: busily
16:45 ashimema gmcharlt: not seen you in ages. how goes it?
16:45 cait oleonard++ woohoo thx!
16:45 ashimema I'm still up and down regarding testbuilder btw.. I kinda want someone else to weigh in.. but I do think in the particular case I'm now getting annoyed about it would have helped prevent it.
16:44 gmcharlt ;)
16:44 gmcharlt ashimema: obey the RM!
16:44 tcohen ashimema: feel positive, now :-D
16:43 ashimema indeed..
16:43 tcohen ashimema: that is changing
16:43 ashimema ack.. I dislike how allot of our unit tests are so picky about the database they are run against!
16:43 tcohen otherwise, that 2008 dated file should've been modified the last 6 years
16:42 tcohen so people using SRU/SRW know how to query our Zebra server
16:42 tcohen the explain file is there just for explaining, right?
16:41 reiveune bye
16:40 gmcharlt oy
16:40 cait yep hehe
16:39 tcohen DEAD!!!
16:37 cait :P
16:37 cait some interesting comments too
16:36 * tcohen is happy the sru protocol doens't provide a way to write stuff..
16:34 tcohen shhhh
16:33 cait including passwords?
16:33 cait yeah
16:33 tcohen it seems a really bad default configuration!
16:33 cait oh
16:31 tcohen ewww: http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.ar:7090/
16:28 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 28.9°C (11:50 AM EDT on August 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
16:28 oleonard @wunder 45701
16:27 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.3°C (1:25 PM ART on August 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling).
16:27 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
16:02 vfernandes it's possible to migrate patrons and patrons photos using command line?
16:02 vfernandes hi :)
15:35 cait bye #koha :)
15:29 Joubu bye #koha!
15:17 huginn 04Bug 12603: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests
15:17 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
15:17 ashimema @later tell rangi any further comments on testbuilder given yohanns comment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12603#c13. I'm inclined to leave it for now
14:53 Joubu khall: ok, I will try tomorrow
14:51 tcohen oleonard++ # taking the time to test patches
14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12833 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron search no longer searches extended attributes
14:50 khall Joubu: you may want to take a look at bug 12833
13:59 ashimema inless someone with db access wants to do it for us. ;)
13:59 ashimema we just can't easily apply it retrospectively..
13:59 ashimema Yeah.. it'll work throughout..
13:57 cait ashimema++
13:57 cait but the template works nicley in preview
13:56 * ashimema end rant
13:56 ashimema of course.. it's yet another bug with using mediawiki atop postgres instead of mysql
13:53 ashimema ffs
13:53 ashimema except that regeular expression don't work properly in our mediawiki..
13:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron
13:41 ashimema we could now retrospectively replace all occurences of 'Bug 12345' with the template syntax to get all to link.
13:40 ashimema {{bug|12345}} should now work..
13:40 ashimema there you go..
13:36 cait [[bug>xxxx]] in ours .)
13:35 cait ashimema: that sounds nice :) dokuwiki can do wimilar with interwiki links, so i wondered
13:34 ashimema all the template would do is translate to [[url|bug 12345]] dynamically
13:33 ashimema haha.. silly huginn
13:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron
13:33 ashimema would look somthing like {{bug|12345}} in wiki markup.. and would come out as 'bug 12345' with a link on page
13:32 ashimema hmm.. I could create a template to do it for you cait?
13:31 cait ashimema: is there a trick to make bug link sin the wiki maybe?
13:30 cait didn't check, only get the bug mail where i am cc at work
13:29 ashimema did dpavlin submit a bug for it yet?
13:28 cait *cookie and hug* then
13:28 tcohen ashimema: use the mocked ldap object, configured to fail, and make sure it falls back to a successful authentication (create a user you know credentials)
13:28 cait heh
13:28 ashimema lol.. i'm always in acceptance of hugs cait ;)
13:28 cait you are only human
13:28 cait ashimema: do I have to repeat the hug and cookie thing? :)
13:27 * ashimema feels like a bad QA'er
13:27 ashimema I should have spotted it.. it's obvious now I look at it.. but the case didn't even occure to me :(
13:27 cait dpavlin: around? :)
13:26 tcohen we didn't have that code fully covered by unit tests, regressions can occur
13:26 ashimema pants.. Sorry I missed that LDAP regression tcohen
13:25 * cait is confused now
13:24 cait or... depens if there are no taxes anymore both woudl work the same i guess :)
13:24 cait hm i think 1 1 - inclue include
13:22 Joubu it's the first config: 0 0, no?
13:21 cait Joubu: taxes are dead and we don't have to care about them?
13:20 wahanui good news is it looks like it's running properly.
13:20 Joubu cait: good news!
13:17 cait Joubu++ # he deserves it all the tax thinking :)
13:16 cait taxes make my brain hurt
13:03 oleonard Okay thanks
13:02 tcohen i can add a followup that catches the warning
13:02 tcohen to check it fails
13:02 tcohen on purpose
13:02 tcohen there is a test using bad SQL
13:01 tcohen oleonard: that's ok
13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11672 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Untranslatable report areas in step 1 of Guided Reports
13:00 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: Testing Bug 11672, I get this error from the test" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/176
12:59 cait don't steal my soudn words! :)
12:59 tcohen hmpf
12:58 cait coudl you add a comment on the bug with your thoughts?
12:58 tcohen the existence of those particular fields/subfields is just a consequence of a bad configuration (or not) and other requirements could arise
12:58 cait i keep thinking there might be use cases where people don't want the fields to be removed, but haven't come up with one yet
12:58 cait i'd like that a little better, but was not sure if i was wrong
12:57 tcohen cait: i'd suggest we implement a way of specifying what to remove
12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Needs Signoff , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported
12:50 cait bug 6681
12:50 cait there is a patch that will remove 952/995 from z39.50 records on import
12:49 oleonard Why do you ask cait?
12:48 cait thx oleonard :)
12:48 oleonard At my library we would not want to import items
12:43 cait what do peopel think about removing items when importing via z39.50?
12:43 cait hm quick poll
12:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 12176 - Remove HTML from additem.pl" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e1aaa4d589f1974ac9ec51e74367ac413a35699>
12:11 tcohen *be like
12:11 Joubu tcohen: I will review it, with pleasure!
12:10 tcohen just a tiny one, to see what others think testing this should be
12:10 cait make it 10? :)
12:10 tcohen i'll try to write a sample unit test for tuesday, for others to review
12:10 ashimema just four.. I could do with another 6 at least.
12:09 * tcohen would like to have 4 more spare hours a day
12:08 cait and we are getting into the second half of the cylce
12:08 cait but it's hard to get it really moving
12:08 cait it has been on the agenda a few times now
12:08 cait i thin we need a plan
12:07 tcohen Joubu: we'll schedule a dev meeting for tuesday, and formally talk about it there, ok?
12:07 cait :)
12:07 Joubu Paola updated the wiki to tell "all" is working : http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Handling_UTF8_in_development&action=historysubmit&diff=13174&oldid=13153
12:05 Joubu nobody is going to write them...
12:05 tcohen but didn't seriously take the time to think of how to do it
12:05 tcohen i'd like to have some regression tests for this, at least for C4::Templates
12:04 Joubu tcohen: Does someone proposed something?
12:04 tcohen and might have something to propose/add/change
12:03 cait it blocks other dev too
12:03 tcohen and also, those who have concerns about this patch series
12:03 tcohen as i see it, stakeholders are those interested in having this patches moving, and the utf8 mess cleaned soon
12:02 cait i thin paola updated the wiki again, but haven't checked closely
12:02 cait tcohen: works for me
12:01 oleonard Partygoers I mean.
12:00 cait so if we remove some libraries might lose data -i'd rather keep it around for now
12:00 oleonard Hi partgoers.
12:00 cait Joubu: i think it has before 3.2 maybe
12:00 tcohen next tuesday
12:00 Joubu cait: aqorders.feright is not used (and has never been used I think)
12:00 cait i think first we need another date for a dev meeting :)
12:00 tcohen heh
12:00 wahanui i guess utf-8 is lovely apart from the BOMs.
12:00 jcamins *My* party is about cookies.
12:00 cait utf-8?
12:00 cait heh
12:00 cait hi oleonard
12:00 * jcamins takes his noisemaker and silly hat elsewhere.
12:00 jcamins Wait, that's not the interest of the party?
11:59 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
11:59 jcamins Cookies!
11:59 * cait has to check if she belongs to the parties
11:59 cait which is it?
11:59 cait i missed the interest of the party
11:59 tcohen :-D
11:59 tcohen we are the interested parties
11:58 cait so I think i'd not hastily remove it, but be clear that currently the level is one step higher
11:58 Joubu tcohen: who are the interested parties? :)
11:58 cait i think we only use that currently - but there were libraries who wanted the freight ocst to be divided and the partials being added to the order lines
11:58 Joubu yep
11:58 Joubu yeo
11:57 cait hm do you mean freight?
11:57 Joubu and use aqinvoices.shipment*
11:57 Joubu cait: IMO we should remove aqorders.shipment*
11:57 cait and it started raining and all my papers ended on the floor in between from the wind
11:57 tcohen and make sure all interested parties are present
11:57 cait ah ok... not quite there yet
11:57 Joubu cait: yes, I added that in the Questions/notes
11:57 tcohen Joubu: we should schedule a dev meeting to take on that topic
11:56 cait Joubu: just a quick question- it hink currently we have freight cost on invoice level not on aqorders level - will the patch change it? i am cnfused about some of the freight comments
11:56 Joubu for the utf8 patches
11:56 Joubu tcohen: how do you schedule a deadline?
11:55 ashimema Gallium 0.4 on AMD BONAIRE
11:55 ashimema I didn't think gnome used compiz?
11:55 tcohen maybe its a compiz problem
11:54 ashimema 14.04
11:54 tcohen 14.04?
11:54 ashimema ubuntu gnome edition.
11:54 tcohen what os?
11:54 ashimema i get that horrible tearing when i drag a window accross it :(
11:53 ashimema but the primary one doesn't like me still. :(
11:53 ashimema I have dual screns again now..
11:53 ashimema it's not the router.. it's the dual screen issues I'm having with this system.. I've just rebooted a number of times to enable/disable bios settings.
11:52 cait for a moment i thought you had gone with dcook :)
11:52 cait ah good
11:52 * tcohen thinks ashimema should replace his router
11:51 cait :)
11:51 cait noone told him to take ashimema with him...
11:51 cait hm
11:51 dcook Night all :)
11:50 dcook Heading home now ;)
11:50 dcook I was just catching up on a few life admin things (and maybe doing a few Koha emails in between).
11:48 ashimema still here dcook.. it's way past your home time mate
11:48 * ashimema is getting fed up of monitor issues with this box
11:48 cait go hme dcook
11:47 dcook hey tcohen :)
11:47 tcohen hi dcook
11:47 * dcook needs to head home
11:47 tcohen we need to schedule a deadline for the utf8 patches
11:46 cait morning tcohen :)
11:40 indradg morning tcohen
11:37 tcohen morning
11:28 ashimema to b fair.. we're struggling to get our own customer base to use them much to start with...
11:28 ashimema I always wanted to encourage people outside of just our own customer base to use them..
11:27 ashimema but yeah.. the stats table is starting to fill up with non ptfs-europe addresses.. which is great to see..
11:27 ashimema we're a bit behind on that.. but then I didn't get them working again at this end until recently.
11:27 ashimema That's fantastic Joubu..
11:17 Joubu There are 1000 lines in the table since 2013-07-12
11:16 Joubu for 4 signoffs
11:16 Joubu ashimema: yep, I just have a look at the stats, something like 30 requests has been done in August (for BibLibre' sandboxes)
11:13 indradg ashimema: :)
11:13 ashimema i'm so happy to see people using the sandboxes outside of a conferance or other event where they're being plugged.. it's awesome Joubu, indradg
10:54 indradg ok
10:54 Joubu indradg: try to rebase it/them and request another sandbox setup
10:53 Joubu fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt).
10:53 Joubu indradg: one of the patches does not apply against master
10:51 indradg Joubu, trying to figure out the error http://pastebin.com/yGpEeG8j can you pls help ?
10:48 cait :)
10:48 cait ok
10:48 Joubu yes
10:48 cait i am still in 'ordering'
10:48 cait Joubu: you included something for the basket groups - is that from the pdf?
10:47 Joubu ok :)
10:46 Joubu cait: more or less
10:45 cait calculations...
10:45 cait ah figuredit out
10:44 cait Joubu: around?
10:20 indradg cait: biblibre 1
10:20 cait which sandbox did you use?
10:19 indradg Cannot fall back to three-way merge.
10:19 indradg Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge.
10:19 indradg something about :fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt).
10:19 indradg I tried to use a sandbox, but this error hit me - http://pastebin.com/yGpEeG8j
10:18 dcook As she is out and about in the city.
10:18 dcook Actually, I'm just changing addresses and stuff like that, and waiting to hear if my wife wants an escort home.
10:17 cait *shrug*
10:17 dcook Nevar!
10:12 cait go home.
10:12 cait lol
10:09 dcook I think the wine store is only about a block away, but... delivery!
10:09 dcook Ooo, I can get wine delivered to my house.
10:07 dcook Whoa, I've been at work long enough that jcamins has gone to bed and risen again :p
09:58 indradg jcamins: wilco!
09:57 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded.
09:57 indradg @later tell jcamins I've split up the patch for bug 12815 into a 5 part patch set. Not sure, if I did it alright
09:57 jcamins You don't need to add me as a CC on bugs.
09:42 huginn indradg: jcamins was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 5 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <jcamins> Likewise, you could add a test plan "try to download jquery.ime plugin using your web browser," but it's hard to see why anyone would want to do that.
09:42 indradg @seen jcamins
09:42 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded.
09:42 indradg @later tell mtompset have a look at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=31173 adds [% USE Koha %] to all existing intranet templates that did not have them
09:40 dcook Other than trying to fix IE bugs :p
09:40 dcook I don't know what I've done :p
09:40 dcook Hmm?
09:40 dcook (Although policy decisions are usually DSpace rather than Koha...)
09:40 indradg dcook++
09:40 dcook I can be hands on with Koha and metadata, but still help out with certain policy decisions
09:40 huginn indradg: mtompset was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 5 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a great day, #koha.
09:40 indradg @seen mtompset
09:39 dcook I think that's why I love my current job
09:39 dcook Agreed
09:39 indradg its same every where apparently... just a degree of difference in the levels of spit and polish
09:39 dcook Which...makes a certain amount of sense I suppose. If one spends all of one's time in boardrooms and meetings, it is likely that one is going to be out of touch.
09:38 dcook I've worked in Canadian government, and there definitely is a disconnect between hands on reality and perceived reality the further up you go the governmental food chain
09:38 indradg lol
09:38 dcook It's a satire of Australian government
09:38 dcook I was watching a show called "Utopia" last night
09:37 dcook Ah, well, there's your problem ;)
09:37 indradg i got this from a very senior federal govt boss last month
09:37 dcook The world is an interesting place :)
09:37 dcook O_o
09:37 indradg trust me! a digital signature is a scanned image of signature
09:36 dcook Oh, actually, maybe we have done some work in Southeast Asia..
09:36 dcook Well, Australia and Pacific Islands
09:36 dcook I don't think we've quite made it to Asia yet. I think we're mostly still Pacific Islands
09:36 dcook That's fascinating :)
09:35 indradg yep... that is not the image Linux has in large parts of Asia
09:35 dcook Which is the same stumbling block as now
09:35 dcook I suppose the stumbling block would be setting up Apache
09:35 dcook I think you can set sources via a GUI, install the packages via the GUI...
09:35 dcook I think you could actually install Koha on Ubuntu with almost no commandline work
09:34 dcook Bah, it's not that tough :p
09:34 indradg plus... Linux is all commands, and it is verry tough! :P
09:34 dcook That explains so much, indradg!
09:34 dcook Ahhhhhhhh
09:33 indradg expired and pirated WinXP is still around in millions
09:33 indradg dcook: the reason people are still gung-ho about 2.x is that those were the last to run on a MSFT Windows based system
09:31 cait Joubu: thx!
09:11 dcook [off] Boo exhausting tax procedures. Yay for being classed as "low income" for the previous tax year. I wonder if I'll still be "low income" after this year's pay increase...
08:58 Joubu http://koha.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/ ?
08:56 cait public library i mean
08:56 cait true, but i need a public one
08:56 Joubu ha
08:56 Joubu aix marseille has a big catalog: http://catalogue.univ-aix-marseille.fr
08:56 cait looking nice :)
08:55 Joubu cait: what do you mean by "nice"?
08:53 cait Joubu: can you think of a public library with branche and nice catalog?
08:28 ashimema [off] I'm also not a fan of RTFM questions, theres a few today.
08:26 ashimema [off] I'm not gonna reply to that email.. don't think I would be able to prevent myself from sounding rude and unprofessional
08:24 dcook I'm gobsmacked when I see questions floating around the internet about installing Koha 2.x
08:24 rangi yep
08:24 ashimema ack.
08:24 ashimema oh.. on list somewhere I assume.
08:23 rangi its only 3 years old
08:23 rangi someone asking about a problem in koha 3.4.1
08:23 ashimema 3.4.1 rangi?
08:23 ashimema huh?
08:23 dcook One moment Lingua::Stem::Snowball. The next taxes.
08:23 * dcook goes back to doing his taxes
08:22 wahanui hmmm... 3.4.1 is http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;h=ad72f266b9a9ee9d60062f4d38f326c92acb5674;hb=03e6e5cb033edceaffef0dd693300df8fa9fb0f6 rather
08:22 dcook rangi: 3.4.1?
08:22 dcook ashimema: But yay for member rewrite!
08:21 rangi 3.4.1 seriously
08:17 ashimema huge amount of work in total
08:17 ashimema k, i'm starting to get a bit of a map in my head for this now..
08:16 rangi do a sub, then another, then another
08:16 ashimema yup.. would have to be incremental
08:16 rangi there is rarely ever a need to do an entire module in one go
08:15 rangi and id do it incrementally
08:15 rangi you still need to test all the functionality still works
08:15 ashimema that would need to be a staged migration from one approach to the other.. how would you go about such a large shift?
08:14 ashimema and I think a fair chunk of the subs would actually just go away..
08:14 ashimema but yeah.. my instance if I'de like to completely re-write Members.pm to be object oriented instead of functional..
08:13 ashimema and that's actually how I tend to go about re-writing now..
08:13 dcook It could be tough in some cases, me thinks, ashimema
08:13 ashimema I agree in principle..
08:12 dcook Oh, forgot about Francois's email..
08:12 dcook I'll have to ask again when I actually get back to the search stuff..
08:11 * dcook likes this idea
08:11 rangi and the patch should fix it
08:11 dcook Sweeet
08:11 rangi yes so the test should be failing
08:11 dcook In that case, the outcome of the test should be different
08:11 dcook What about when the rewrite actually fixes something that was broken?
08:10 wahanui i already had it that way, rangi.
08:10 rangi either is fine
08:10 ashimema but should the enhancement be the third patch in the same bug.. or another bug entirely ;)
08:10 rangi almost all of the rewrite ones are the other way round
08:10 wahanui hmmm... certainly is confusing.. thanks for bringing your attention to it.
08:10 ashimema certainly..
08:09 rangi such that all the tests still pass
08:09 rangi second patch should be a rewrite
08:09 rangi first patch should be the tests
08:09 ashimema certainly.. having lots of unit tests helps with this ;)
08:08 ashimema or would you do the re-write as part of the enhancement bug.. to give it a better chance of going in.
08:08 * dcook so far has done some rewrites and waited for them to go in
08:08 ashimema 'cause i've seen a number of bugs like that that never go in.. bacially because peopel are scared of the re-write part so they get blocked ;)
08:08 * dcook is also curious about this ^
08:07 ashimema so in your method cait.. would one do the rewrite and then base a second bug upon that re-write?
08:04 cait but not rewrite just to rewrite :)
08:04 cait if the enh follows the rewrite i think yes
08:04 * ashimema heads off to read rangi's blog post.
08:04 ashimema What do you think of as 'a gain' though.. if it make's it drastically easier to write new enhancements..? is that enough of a gain?
08:04 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/07/31/yes-you-should-rewrite-it-no-not-like-that/
08:03 cait but we also need to be careful not to rewrite constntly, i think there needs to be a gain when doing it
08:02 ashimema s/cold/code
08:02 ashimema It's really hard to know where to draw the line between adding more technical debt atop old cold and when you should bite the bullet and recode something before adding an enhancement atop it.
08:01 ashimema :)
08:01 cait it's not so long that you can get them here i think
08:01 * cait loves oreos
08:00 dcook I have oreos? Not everyone considers them to be cookies, but I'm happy to share :)
08:00 * dcook hugs cait back
08:00 dcook D'awww
08:00 dcook It'll be good when my boss is back to help lighten the load, but then I go away, and I'll have lots to catch up on when I'm back from holiday..
08:00 * cait hands out cookies and hugs to dcook and ashimema
08:00 cait step by step... and noone is perfect :)
08:00 * dcook really needs a minion
08:00 dcook Once I get a handle on all the current stuff I have...
07:59 dcook Yeah, I know what you mean, ashimema. I had a bunch of plans for Search, but I think I'll have to incrementally improve it
07:58 ashimema :(
07:58 ashimema but now I'm thinking all my work really isn't good enough to go into Koha:: as it's so intertwined with the C4:: members mechanicals..
07:58 ashimema I see khall took the 'easy' route for a similar patch..
07:58 ashimema it's my borrower import re-write cait..
07:57 ashimema The bit that's currently bugging me.. is that it's making me really want to shift a bunch of surrounding stuff into Koha namespace and do them 'nicely' before I get back to this code
07:57 cait which project is it? *curious* heh
07:57 ashimema likewise I reckon.
07:56 ashimema yeah.. same issues dcook.. other things had to start taking priority.. finally getting back to stuff now and OMG, this code is aweful1
07:56 dcook (ashimema: In my case, it's that my coding ability has improved drastically since I originally wrote that code a year or so ago)
07:55 dcook I was going to work on this code over the past few weeks, but been so busy...
07:55 * dcook wants to tear apart his OAI client code
07:55 cait ashimema: gues... don't let it lie around that long then? :P
07:55 dcook Also good question about the tearing apart
07:55 cait morning Joubu
07:55 dcook hehe
07:55 dcook ashimema: I think Australia learned it from England ;)
07:55 Joubu Good morning #koha
07:53 ashimema Why is it whenever you get back to a piece of code you were working on a few month before, that you just want to tear it apart and start again from scratch?
07:50 cait morning ashimema :)
07:50 ashimema morning cait.
07:50 ashimema the left hand never knows what the rights hands doing over here eiter dcook
07:04 dcook [off] I thought about that a little bit. I hope that's the case, but I haven't seen anything stating that :/. It seems to me that the departments just don't communicate that well with each other.
07:03 cait [off] maybe they can't exchange your personal data without your consent/getting active?
07:02 dcook [off] I'll never understand Australian bureaucracy. I need to fill out a government form so that one department can issue me a certificate that I can give to another department if they request it. Why put the onus on me and not just contact said department if they have need of extra info?
06:59 dcook ^_^
06:57 cait heh ok
06:57 dcook That's 3 minutes of checking emails at least!
06:57 dcook (It's 4:57pm...)
06:57 dcook What? It's not even 5pm yet!
06:55 cait go home dcook :)
06:54 dcook heya cait
06:54 cait good morning #koha
06:53 dcook How 'bout you?
06:53 dcook Ever changing? haha
06:52 dcook Mmm, good question
06:48 ashimema hows it hangin' dcook
06:48 wahanui ashimema is on qa now .)
06:48 dcook heya ashimema
06:42 ashimema morning
06:41 reiveune salut dcook
06:41 dcook salut reiveune
06:40 wahanui hello, reiveune
06:40 reiveune hello
06:36 * dcook thinks someone should work on the bug preventing each day from being 32 hours long.
06:36 dcook Noo, it can't be 4:36pm already...
05:50 dcook Even though I know for a fact they've catalogued 1-18 as well
05:49 dcook I do a "series" search for "the walking dead" and I get volumes 19 and 20 out of the comic series
05:49 dcook Such bad cataloguing as well...
05:48 * dcook really dislikes the software used by his local public library
05:48 dcook Huh...my local public library doesn't have "detail" pages apparently...just search results
05:48 dcook 3:47pm, I believe ;)
05:39 indradg dcook: morning it is... just about 11
05:38 dcook morning/afternoon indradg
05:36 indradg good morning #koha
05:34 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
05:34 * mtompset sneaks out.
05:18 cait not sure
05:18 cait heh
05:17 dcook Hmm 7:17am...I guess that's a reasonable time to be awake :p
05:16 * cait waves
05:16 eythian hi cait
05:15 dcook rangi: I might have to keep my eyes and ears out for it
05:15 dcook yo cait
05:05 rangi but then probably to dvd after that
05:05 rangi it'll play all the festivals i imagine
05:05 dcook I wonder what it's distribution is going to be like
05:05 rangi http://www.flicks.co.nz/blog/news/why-you-should-be-excited-about-maori-action-film-the-dead-lands/
05:04 rangi and i think the first pre colonisation set one
05:04 rangi theres no english, ... maybe subtitles
05:04 eythian oh cool
05:04 dcook Sweet
05:04 wahanui somebody said the language was filed letter by letter word by word
05:04 rangi the language
05:04 dcook rangi: In the cast?
05:03 dcook General Fools Improvisational Theatre. That was the improv group.
05:03 rangi the interesting thing about the dead lands is its entirely in maori
05:02 dcook I've seen Daniel in some theatre too. He's pretty good.
05:02 dcook Hmm, I didn't know she had two brothers..
05:02 dcook That's what I hear :)
05:02 eythian like, super-great.
05:02 eythian she is utterly amazing in OB.
05:02 dcook Yeah, she was in an improv group with a librarian I know
05:02 eythian oh, is that who you met?
05:02 dcook I was amazed when she was in Gingersnaps 2, so it's sort of a big deal that she's in Orphan Black now
05:01 dcook I remember seeing Tatiana Maslany in local theatre productions
05:01 dcook Such a small world...
05:01 dcook Mmm, yeah, I hear good things about Orphan Black
05:01 dcook Dead Lands looks intense
05:01 eythian Dead Lands looks like it could be good.
05:00 eythian orphan black
04:59 wahanui i guess Which one is that? The fixed navbar?
04:59 dcook Which one?
04:59 eythian it's a good show that
04:59 eythian cool
04:59 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaXxVKEtlIg&feature=youtu.be
04:59 rangi this looks pretty awesome
04:59 eythian oh, no. Still on break.
04:59 dcook We're from the same home town :)
04:59 dcook I actually met one of the actors from Orphan Black years ago though
04:59 dcook Dunno?
04:59 eythian ooh is orphan black back again?
04:58 dcook Or one of those shows that has an O or Black in the title
04:58 dcook I think this evening might be Orange is the New Black...or Orphan Black...
04:58 * dcook thumbs up
04:58 eythian perhaps that could be this evening's fare.
04:58 eythian hmm, I do have Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome sitting at home to watch.
04:58 dcook :)
04:57 eythian So far, I've not done it :)
04:57 dcook Friends don't let friends watch Lost :p
04:57 dcook eythian: Save yourself some pain and just don't do it
04:57 eythian I have had the last half-dozen episodes sitting in my to-download queue for years now.
04:57 dcook According to MARC21
04:57 dcook I would love to know what a "set" is
04:56 dcook Actually, forget Lost. *grumbles something about worst show ever*
04:56 dcook If that's what Lost was about
04:55 dcook You know...maybe this is like Lost... and we all did something bad in our previous life... so now we're stuck with MARC21
04:54 eythian that would sure be a surprise.
04:54 * dcook thinks LoC might just be trolling everyone everywhere forever
04:54 * dcook thinks LoC might've meant "succeeded" or "followed" rather than "preceded", although their example doesn't corroborate that either.
04:52 * dcook is so intrigued beyond words
04:52 wizzyrea at least it wasn't sweary.
04:52 wizzyrea it's only my fault for putting it there.
04:51 wizzyrea it's not actually my fault that the recipient didn't notice it and forwarded it to his boss. :P
04:51 wizzyrea I totally did it.
04:51 wizzyrea haha no way.
04:51 dcook I think that's the part where you're supposed to deny it :p
04:50 wizzyrea you told me to!
04:50 dcook hehe
04:50 * eythian is not the one calling people names
04:50 dcook I also know that eythian is a smartass :p.
04:50 wizzyrea eythian. Because he's a smartass. ;)
04:50 dcook I know. I'm just ranting :).
04:50 wizzyrea not you.
04:50 dcook In the example, the unit designation is not preceded by three spaces either...
04:49 wizzyrea lol damn you
04:49 dcook "In works that are not yet complete, only the type of unit designation is recorded preceded by three spaces. (The actual number of pieces received may be recorded as temporary data enclosed in angle brackets.)"
04:48 dcook I think my eyes might start bleeding soon
04:48 dcook Just...wow
04:48 dcook Wow...reading through the fine print on MARC21 bibliographic 300
04:43 * dcook wishes he knew more about the science of tastebuds...
04:43 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:43 eythian wahanui: wizzyrea also is never going to refer to a client as a flithy smurf in professional correspondence. Again.
04:43 dcook Hmm.
04:42 dcook Hmm, apparently it's actually "Ice Tea"
04:42 dcook Oreos, BBQ shapes, and... raspberry iced tea
04:42 dcook I have comfort food :)
04:42 dcook hehe
04:33 wizzyrea I just totes broke up with that DB, the little jerk.
04:20 * wizzyrea dumps this database
04:19 dcook Mine looks ok
04:19 wizzyrea yeah it looks that way.
04:19 dcook I think it's something wrong with you, wizzyrea
04:19 dcook Hmm
04:19 wizzyrea mmm something is quite wrong I think
04:19 * dcook is updating his db
04:19 * wizzyrea tries renewing the borrower
04:18 wizzyrea both in the sidebar and next to "checking out to"
04:18 wizzyrea see how the borrower name is just ()
04:18 wizzyrea http://i.imgur.com/V4JWFlG.png
04:18 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian.
04:18 eythian no wahanui, \which browser is <reply>If it's IE, there will be trouble.
04:18 eythian no wahanui, which browser is <reply>If it's IE, there will be trouble.
04:18 wizzyrea I just want to know if it's me
04:17 * dcook is juggling about a million issues at the moment, and seems to enjoy putting more and more stuff ontop of his current list
04:17 wizzyrea firefox
04:17 wahanui Which browser are you using?
04:17 dcook Which browser?
04:17 dcook I could probably take a look at that sure.
04:17 wizzyrea screen inc.
04:17 wizzyrea can anyone else reproduce that the borrower name doesn't show up on the checkout screen?
04:16 wizzyrea i'm looking at the latest master
04:16 wizzyrea hm
04:16 wizzyrea yeah, that's all fine.
04:16 dcook (and no one has raised them as issues locally so there's been no impetus to work on them anyway)
04:15 dcook I didn't provide a patch for the first one, and my patch for the second one was no good
04:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9584 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Remove problematic IE CSS Hacks in staff client
04:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10772 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , IE7 not loading reset-fonts-grids.css in staff client
04:15 dcook I think every one of my IE bugs has been pushed, except for... bug 10772 and bug 9584
04:13 dcook A few of them are arguably "bugs" in Koha, which modern browsers just gloss over nowadays
04:13 dcook Well...
04:12 dcook Yeah, I think they mean "bugs in IE currently bothering recent versions of Koha"...
04:12 dcook hehe
04:12 gmcharlt can we bother IE even MORE?
04:12 dcook tcohen has also been pushing a lot of IE patches recently as well
04:12 gmcharlt bugs currently bothering IE...
04:12 dcook Hmm. Yeah, no doubt.
04:11 wizzyrea it's rather not specific
04:11 wizzyrea "bugs currently bothering IE in recent versions"
04:11 dcook I try to include "IE" or "Internet Explorer" in the title of every IE bug I do
04:11 dcook Do they mean open bugs or absolutely every bug ever?
04:11 dcook Oh man...
04:10 wizzyrea where to even start.
04:10 wizzyrea no I just had someone ask me for a comprehensive list of IE bugs in koha
04:10 wizzyrea heh
03:26 dcook "So everything's broken and you're not on IE 7? Ok, you're almost certainly in compatibility view mode."
03:26 dcook Also compatibility mode
03:26 * dcook is getting reasonably good at guessing IE versions
03:26 dcook wizzyrea: Any particular one standing out to you?
03:26 dcook hehe
03:23 pianohacker good night all
03:23 pianohacker anyway now that I've said my piece and added a smiley to defuse it I should run away again
03:22 pianohacker too many other fields :)
03:19 rangi its there, people dont really fill it out
03:19 wizzyrea pity.
03:19 wizzyrea ...we really don't ask for browser and version in bug reports do we.