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23:44 dpk Sounds good.
23:43 eythian (well, by nothing, I mean that koha-common won't get upgraded)
23:43 eythian otherwise nothing will get upgraded
23:43 eythian that's how I do it, and it means that you can do "apt-get install koha-common=3.16.01" whenever you want.
23:43 tcohen eythian: that was my first googlesearch result
23:43 dpk Then I can set up a test system (on a separate machine) to test the new version and unhold when I am happy to move forward.
23:43 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "pinning packages" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172
23:42 tcohen the only way you'd upgrade Koha is by doing it explicitly
23:42 eythian tcohen: that's not the best way
23:42 dpk OK. got it.
23:42 tcohen dpk: for example echo "koha-common hold" | dpkg --set-selections
23:41 rangi pin
23:41 eythian you can manually override it quite happily, but if you don't, it won't autoupgrade
23:41 eythian we do that for things
23:41 wahanui somebody said yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha...
23:41 eythian yeah, that
23:41 tcohen dpk, you can put it on hold
23:40 eythian sure
23:39 dpk The packages are updated periodically. Is there an easy way to stop apt-get update/upgrade from upgrading koha-common unless I want it to? (even though a new package is available?)
23:39 eythian dpk: from making your own, to tracking the current releases, to tracking the older releases, or just not upgrading for a few months on a new release.
23:38 eythian dpk: you can have a few different degrees of control over what version you're running quite happily
23:38 rangi you can wait for a .x package if you want
23:38 rangi dpk: yep, im not sure what that has to do with the packages tho?
23:37 dcook tcohen: http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html
23:37 dcook After the top 20, it gets down to under 1% of the total contributions
23:37 dcook Oh, I lie
23:37 dcook The remaining 46.33% is made up of contributions that are no larger than 1% of the total of Koha
23:37 dpk I am very familiar with packages and their advantages. (I am a long time Unix/Linux SA and SW developer) We have found that occasionally the major release have bugs that prevent us moving over on the .0 release. Sometimes we need to wait a minor release or 2, to move from one major release to another. Elaine Bradtke, the librarian half of this team, has found several and that is in part because we are a research library (efds
23:36 tcohen gitstats?
23:36 dcook 53.67% of Koha
23:36 dcook According to the GitStats, the top 10 committers are responsible for...
23:36 eythian could be
23:35 tcohen tautology?
23:35 eythian I don't know what that means.
23:35 * dcook notices offhand that a remarkable percentage of Koha is actually made up of fractions of percents.
23:35 tcohen heh
23:34 eythian that release maintainer is a terrible person.
23:33 tcohen if we convinced the release maintainer to include some tiny patches ;)
23:33 tcohen but there's usually no hurry and we might have installed stock packages
23:33 tcohen with the branch we're using + some patches that are not yet included
23:32 tcohen we usually build our own packages for deploy
23:32 tcohen packages is a way of deploying Koha in your infrastructure
23:31 tcohen dpk: why would you still build from sources?
23:30 dpk Hello. I have been building and installing Koha from source since 3.4 or so and an thinking about moving over to the koha-common Debian packages. One thing we have found very useful is to test new *major* releases before we move to that track, and we have found some bugs that caused us to move after a .1 or .2 release. How do you suggest I do this in the future? Keep using a built from source for "beta testing"? Who controls
23:29 tcohen hi
22:29 wizzyrea here that usually means there's some kind of weather system coming.
22:20 bag but high surf that sounds fun
22:20 bag wizzyrea: nope just partly cloudly for the rest of the week
22:19 huginn bag: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
22:19 bag @more
22:19 wizzyrea hm do you have weather rolling in bag?
22:18 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 22.4°C (3:18 PM PDT on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). High surf advisory in effect from 6 PM Tuesday to 3 am PDT Thursday...
22:18 bag @wunder 93102
22:02 eythian oh those oddball half-hour timezones
22:01 indradg insane! its 3:30 am here :)
22:00 eythian hmm. meet in the middle?
22:00 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (9:30 AM NZST on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
22:00 eythian @wunder nzwn
22:00 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 28.0°C (3:20 AM IST on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
22:00 indradg @wunder kolkata
21:57 eythian sounds good :)
21:57 indradg :) eythian++
21:56 indradg so [%interface%]/libs
21:56 eythian OK. In that case, I'd probably put it whereever the other libs go.
21:55 indradg eythian ^
21:55 indradg the proposed patch calls for a mini-fied https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime library
21:54 eythian ah k
21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5621 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Google Translation for indian languages.
21:53 indradg eythian: what I'm doing at the moment is a replacement for GoogleTransliteration syspref that used to dot the templates, but has since been removed as the submitted patch failed QA - bug 5621
21:51 eythian that way you keep your koha as close to stock as you can, which is a good thing.
21:51 indradg ok
21:50 eythian not in the koha file tree
21:50 indradg eythian: "external to koha entirely"?
21:50 eythian note that unless it's a thing for upstreaming, we've found it generally better to put it external to koha entirely.
21:49 eythian there's already a lib/ directory for that kind of stuff
21:49 eythian different themes may require different versions?
21:49 indradg the former would of course restrict it to the specified opac theme... but are there any other gotchas to be aware of?
21:48 indradg is I have to place a commonly accessed .js library for the OPAC, should I place it in [% interface %]/[% theme %] or simply under [% interface %] ?
21:47 cait i guess i need to go to sleep - good night #koha :)
21:47 cait hi indradg
21:47 indradg hi.. /me is back again :-)
21:45 * cait thinks her photo is art :P
21:44 cait tsk and no contribution?
21:41 wahanui okay, eythian.
21:41 eythian no wahanui, coffee is <reply>http://www.workbuffer.org/presentations/pizza/images/coffee.jpg
21:41 wahanui ...but coffee is mostly not Brooke's medicine...
21:41 eythian wahanui: coffee is <reply>http://www.workbuffer.org/presentations/pizza/images/coffee.jpg
21:41 eythian coffee is <reply>http://www.workbuffer.org/presentations/pizza/images/coffee.jpg
20:55 mtompset Where is my where clause?!
20:55 mtompset Well, this is lousy! I am positive I have good DBIx, but the SQL generated is bad.
19:17 cait those seem all to be intranet?
19:17 cait i thnk the boostrap opac has a few more
19:17 cait ah
19:13 indradg cait: only 15 .tt files include the [% USE Koha %] declaration so far - http://pastebin.com/yeWDAz0Q
19:07 cait hm ok:)
19:06 indradg cait: basically if syspref ON, then include the CSS and JS *and* jquery document.ready hook
19:05 cait and i think you migh tnot need to add use koha - maybe check if it's there before, it only has to be on a page once
19:05 cait indradg: what else goes into the inc?
19:04 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My ugly test code." (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171
19:03 * indradg knows zilch about these things so far
19:03 indradg that looks minimally invasive and keeping things clean. but was worrying over the two USE Koha calls
19:02 indradg jcamins ^
19:02 mtompset khall: Okay, I think I have something, but I'm having difficulty.
19:02 indradg based on what you guys told me, this is what I'm planning to do -> INCLUDE directive in doc-head-close.inc pointing to xyz.css.inc xyz.js.inc; inside these latter .inc file using [% USE Koha %] to check for Koha.Preference('syspref')
18:59 jcamins indradg: I think [% USE %] is file-scoped, but I'm not sure.
18:56 tcohen bye!
18:56 tcohen it is probably on one of the global headers anyway
18:55 tcohen i'm not sure indradg
18:55 indradg jcamins, tcohen
18:55 indradg just one quick question: does encountering more than one [% USE Koha %] directive via the .inc files create any performance / memory impact?
18:48 khall mtompset: we could just use another DateTime object for the current date, that would simplify things a bit
18:42 mtompset could that line be changed to something like the parameter part below?
18:41 mtompset But then get DBIx to doa CURRENT_DATE()
18:41 mtompset You grab the date at the top.
18:41 mtompset khall: Can I ask about an amendment to that?
18:35 khall yeah, it's better to avoid that when possible, but sometimes we must
18:35 mtompset Thanks for the example of passing a parameter.
18:34 khall no guarantees I got it right, not tested ; )
18:34 mtompset got the wrong square bracket at the top, but I had something similar.
18:33 khall http://paste.koha-community.org/170
18:33 mtompset khall, a paste.koha-community.org would have been better. :P
18:32 khall );
18:32 khall }
18:32 khall order_by => [ 'number' ],
18:32 khall {
18:32 khall },
18:32 tcohen indradg: that's what khall thought when writing that Template plugin
18:32 khall ],
18:32 khall \[ 'DATE(timestamp) < ?', $parser->format_datetime($dt) ]
18:32 khall ],
18:32 khall expirationdate => '00-00-0000'
18:32 khall expirationdate => undef,
18:32 khall expirationdate => \'>= CURRENT_DATE()',
18:32 khall -or => [
18:32 khall ],
18:32 khall branchcode => $branch
18:32 khall branchcode => undef,
18:32 khall -or => [
18:32 khall ],
18:32 khall lang => $lang,
18:32 khall lang => '',
18:32 mtompset Sorry, but Amen is totally applicable and NOT blasphemous. You weren't calling Koha.Preference() a deity. ;)
18:32 khall -or => [
18:32 khall -and => ]
18:32 khall {
18:32 khall my @results = $schema->resultset('OpacNews')->search(
18:32 khall my $parser = $schema->storage->datetime_parser;
18:32 khall my $dt = DateTime->now()->subtract(days => 1);
18:32 khall mtompset: something like:
18:31 tcohen indradg: :-D
18:31 * tcohen in blasfemous mode, sorry for that
18:31 indradg s/know/now
18:31 indradg tcohen: I got it know... some how the idea of adding an IF to dozens of .pl files looked like something way obscene
18:31 tcohen amen
18:30 mtompset The -'s prevent accidentally adding spacing. :)
18:30 tcohen you need to [%- USE Koha -%] first
18:30 mtompset tcohen++ # Koha.Preference('SysPref') for the win
18:30 jcamins Yeah, I agree with tcohen.
18:30 indradg thanks jcamins, tcohen
18:29 indradg :-P
18:29 * indradg in a major facepalm moment!
18:29 tcohen :=D
18:29 indradg aaaaaaaargh!
18:29 tcohen indradg: Koha.Preference('SysPref') on the template
18:29 indradg I have those two new sysprefs working
18:28 jcamins My initial response is that you could just stick your new code in doc-head-close.
18:28 indradg http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=31130
18:27 jcamins So why do you need to change the Perl files?
18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha
18:27 indradg jcamins: the objective is bug 12815
18:26 indradg yes... which is why I stopped and asked
18:26 jcamins But I'm not sure what your actual goal is.
18:26 jcamins My initial response is that this is a horrible idea, because you're making an identical change in dozens of files.
18:26 indradg if syspref then do this
18:26 indradg so that i can pass a template param - a syspref condition
18:25 jcamins indradg: right, but why are you trying to do that?
18:25 indradg jcamins: trying to add an if statement in *all* the perl scripts that load a .tt template referencing a [% INCLUDE doc-head-close.in %]
18:23 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
18:23 jcamins indradg: first question?
18:23 indradg in my case, i planning to add two lines of code in each of the the .pl files that load up a .tt
18:22 indradg i have a question. Suppose I wish to add something like doc-head-close.inc that gets added to every template file under intranet-tmpl, what would be the easiest way to go about it?
18:20 indradg good evening #koha
18:14 mtompset you at least know the song I was referencing. :)
18:14 cait i think i need to have dinner, then everything will be better :)
18:14 cait mtompset: it's ok :)
18:08 mtompset Sorry cait.
18:07 cait mtompset: not available here in germany - your link :(
18:03 khall mtompset: working on it
18:03 wahanui it has been said that example is probably a status change
18:03 mtompset example?
18:01 khall mtompset: we can calculate tomorrow using a DateTime object, and pass that in
17:59 mtompset http://youtu.be/HDi7qOhECW8 -- You've lost that lovin' feelin'. :)
17:58 khall lol, must've been lost in thought ; )
17:58 cait khall: i am starting to feel a little bit worried - everytime i say your name you don't make a sound... but whenever soeone else does you show up :)
17:57 mtompset take either of the first two examples from about 6 minutes ago, and demonstrate?
17:56 khall yep, however, you can also call mysql functions from dbic
17:56 mtompset No, I don't think so, because this is about building a WHERE clause. :)
17:55 khall don't think that helps here though
17:55 khall well, with the right configuration DBIx::Class can automatically turn the timestamps in the db into DateTime objects
17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12507 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , News does not always display in staff or OPAC
17:55 mtompset By the way, it was bug 12507 which conflicted with 12167, tcohen.
17:54 mtompset Is there a nice DBIx way of doing a timestamp to date truncation and comparison to another date? ;)
17:53 khall what's up?
17:53 tcohen we need khall
17:52 mtompset and perhaps there is a DBIx way of doing it.
17:51 mtompset The first two look harder, because they contain functions on the left side.
17:51 mtompset the last two, I think I might be able to manage.
17:51 mtompset How do I do those as a DBIx where?
17:51 mtompset (in no particular order)
17:50 mtompset `timestamp` <= CURRENT_DATE()
17:50 mtompset `timestamp` < CURRENT_DATE()+1
17:50 mtompset CAST( opac_news.timestamp AS DATE ) <= CURRENT_DATE
17:50 mtompset DATE(timestamp) < DATE_ADD(CURDATE(), INTERVAL 1 DAY)
17:50 mtompset In the where clause there has been four versions of an ugly date constraint.
17:50 mtompset The problem is timestamp and date manipulations.
17:49 mtompset As per tcohen's suggestion, I was thinking of refactoring that one function to be DBIx.
17:49 mtompset As tcohen is aware, the GetNewsToDisplay function is currently running an SQL query directly against dbi.
17:49 cait tcohen: mtompset is looking for patches converting sql to dbix
17:49 cait hmalso that
17:47 tcohen whatsup?
17:46 jcamins grep the codebase for DBIx stuff?
17:46 mtompset It's okay. I do appreciate the suggestion, cait. Can you point me at a non-test-builder patch?
17:43 * cait goes to sit in a corner and be quiet now
17:43 mtompset Yes, that's the scariness.
17:43 * mtompset laughs.
17:43 cait i think that's what you meant?
17:43 cait mtompset: i didn't mean thte test builder
17:42 cait jcamins: you ar enot helping
17:42 mtompset I looked at one of yohann's patches and my brain melted, because of the layers of abstractions.
17:42 jcamins I agree. More bit twiddling is what Koha needs!
17:41 cait sorry long day, you got me confused
17:41 mtompset :)
17:41 mtompset No, please no more abstractions!
17:40 cait hm?
17:40 * mtompset cringes.
17:40 cait but apart from t hat, maybe look at some of yohann's patches?
17:40 cait khall? :)
17:40 mtompset Anyone familiar with converting SQL into DBIx stuffs?
17:39 mtompset Oops... was scrolled up. :)
17:39 mtompset datadoctor: you missed quocuy by 18 minutes. ;)
16:57 nengard anyone know why this : $("option[value='LANSING']").hide(); would work in firefox but not chrome?
16:34 quocuy didn't find anything :(
16:30 quocuy Jcamins: Thanks, doing some search
16:28 quocuy just want to create top menu like that, i created some pages with koha as CMS, now i want to add them to top menu
16:28 jcamins Not example catalogs.
16:28 jcamins I mean examples of how to do it.
16:28 jcamins I'm not sure, but it seems worth a try.
16:28 quocuy http://koha.vn/
16:28 quocuy here is one
16:27 jcamins quocuy: ^^ you might find some examples there
16:27 wahanui jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
16:27 jcamins jquery library?
16:27 quocuy hi
16:21 quocuy i'm playing around with kohs as cms, and want create some pages on the top-menu of Koha
16:21 quocuy I have a question, how i can add some tabs in to "menu-top" div, beside login tab
16:20 quocuy Hello all!
15:05 reiveune bye
14:33 datadoctor Hi quocuy.
14:15 quocuy Is there anyone here?
14:14 quocuy HI all
14:02 tcohen hi
14:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:52 kivilahtio anyway
13:52 kivilahtio ah yeah schedule pressure about the small library migration
13:51 kivilahtio we were about to upgrade to 3.16.2 but then "something" hapeneed and that is on ice
13:51 Joubu so bug 11120 did that :)
13:51 Joubu ha :)
13:51 Joubu great
13:51 kivilahtio for some old master version we are using
13:51 kivilahtio yes
13:51 Joubu kivilahtio: yes I understood :) But you have a code working?
13:50 kivilahtio i think i made an internal patch but then forgot about the thing because there was this and that problem
13:50 kivilahtio I didn't publish a patch for it
13:50 Joubu kivilahtio: Did you fix --date for overdue_notices on master?
13:50 kivilahtio also our trainee working with those things has been pushed to holidays :)
13:49 kivilahtio we have some custom modifications regarding holds and they are going awol
13:49 kivilahtio I had it fixed as well, but somehow didnt have time to submit a patch
13:49 Joubu but the patch does not apply anymore (too bad)
13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11120 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The date option for the overdue_notices cronjob is broken
13:49 Joubu kivilahtio: bug 11120 fixed the --date for overdue_notices
13:48 kivilahtio anyway just asking if you have had issues with cronjobs not running
13:47 kivilahtio I guess I need to submit patches :)
13:47 kivilahtio too bad most of the koha-scripts dont support other dates than NOW()
13:46 kivilahtio based on the enormous amount of errors reports I am getting I prolly should run those scripts that MUST be ran every day now
13:46 kivilahtio I was also busy with some migration stuff, doing screen scraping to bring a small library to Koha
13:45 kivilahtio this event happened on 15-17.8
13:45 kivilahtio too bad syslogs are only for the past 7 days
13:43 kivilahtio then just happen to continue running
13:43 Joubu kivilahtio: you should see the job launched in syslog (or daemon) I think
13:43 kivilahtio I am just wondering how is it possible for cronjobs not to run for 3 days
13:43 kivilahtio have nt really peeked at the syslog
13:43 Joubu and others run?
13:43 kivilahtio I created a custom wrapper to log all my cronjobs to their respective log-entries to monitor the runtimes and verbose outputs
13:42 kivilahtio I am looking in my logs and see that advance_notices.pl, overdue_notices.pl , fines.pl cancel_expired_holds.pl have not ran
13:42 Joubu kivilahtio: nothing in logs?
13:41 kivilahtio Joubu: yes
13:41 Joubu kivilahtio: all cronjobs??
13:41 kivilahtio Have you ever had a cronjob failure? Where no cronjobs run for 3 days?
13:39 Joubu datadoctor: could you detail? When the print notices are not generated properly?
13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12810 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , After MTT gather_print_notices includes overdues
13:38 Joubu and bug 12810
13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address
13:38 Joubu bug 12717
13:38 Joubu datadoctor: there are 2 bug reports
13:34 datadoctor So far, I can't find a bug report, but the suggestion is that print notices do not generate properly after the addition of multiple notice per message_transport_type.
13:33 datadoctor But we are concerned about print notifications.
13:32 datadoctor Good morning. Here at Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library we are looking to update to Koha v3.16.
12:45 magnuse sorry, i gotta run (picking up from kindergarten :-)
12:34 Joubu Hi tcohen!
12:34 Joubu magnuse: it seems that about.pl displayes the version in kohaversion.pl
12:34 dpavlin thanks everyone, I'm going back to my dungeon to figure this out
12:34 tcohen magnuse: around?
12:33 tcohen hi Joubu
12:33 wahanui hmmm... morning is a state of cat
12:33 tcohen morning!
12:33 Joubu catalog search
12:33 Joubu dpavlin: here I got: alt+r: checkin, alt+u: checkout, alt+q: search
12:31 * magnuse wonders why about koha says 3.15 when the value in the syspref table is 3.1700011
12:31 magnuse :-)
12:30 * dpavlin wonders about aliens and cosmic rays -- I see it both in Firefox and Chrome...
12:29 dpavlin for me, even 3.16.x on home pages selects search patrons for q, and search catalogue for u, so local problem, I guess...
12:28 magnuse gitified setup. git says i'm up to date with master, but "about koha" says 3.15.00.052?!?
12:27 magnuse dpavlin: works for me
12:26 dpavlin I can see that after commit 9fe36e0c705b958859babe565517554b722c66cd (on which our production is on) and on current master, I don't really know about 3.16.2, but it would be nice to know if it works there...
12:24 cait would be 3.16.2 ok?
12:24 cait hm can't check on master
12:24 cait hi dpavlin :)
12:18 * dpavlin suspect local problem, so need confirmation before opening bug
12:17 dpavlin alt+r (checkout does work) but alt+u (checkin) and alt+q (catalouge search) are... all over the place, depending on page
12:15 dpavlin can somebody check if keyboard shortcuts are working in current master? For me they seem to select wrong tabs, and looking in the code I have no idea why
10:09 quocuy Anyone here?
10:05 quocuy Hi all
09:44 magnuse :-)
09:44 magnuse it sure is
09:23 indradg magnuse: thats hot! for you! :)
08:51 magnuse we set a new heat record this summer in Bodø, with 29.1°C :-)
08:45 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 34.0°C (1:50 PM IST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:45 indradg @wunder Kolkata
08:27 Joubu erk
08:27 huginn Joubu: The current temperature in Liverpool, United Kingdom is 13.0°C (9:20 AM BST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
08:27 Joubu @wunder Liverpool, uk
08:26 magnuse not too bad! :-)
08:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
08:25 magnuse @wunder boo
08:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 17.5°C (10:25 AM CEST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
08:25 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:25 magnuse bonjour Joubu
08:16 marcelr hi Joubu
08:06 Joubu Hello #koha
07:40 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:40 dcook night all
07:39 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
07:39 dcook @later tell tcohen Sorry, been busy with DSpace all day. Still haven't gotten to the facet code yet :(
07:24 indradg so I place it under i18n/l10n or System Admin as the component?
07:24 indradg cait: i'm going to file a bug a "sub-classification" in the i18n-l10n.pref YAML file i.e. "Date and Time", "Language Support" sub-sections
07:21 marcelr at least a warning?
07:20 marcelr i am still thinking about a dbrev for those fields too
07:20 marcelr too bad
07:20 cait with the paidfor
07:20 cait marcelr: hope the comment made sense ... it's an even bigger mess than i thought
06:54 wahanui well, indradg is the one who told me.
06:54 marcelr and indradg
06:53 indradg hi marcelr
06:53 marcelr and cait
06:53 marcelr hi #koha
06:53 cait good morning marcelr :)
06:50 indradg can do that!
06:50 cait I think maybe in the .pref would be good
06:50 cait the sql is not shown anywhere
06:50 indradg I should be a little more verbose?
06:50 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
06:50 cait @later tell tcohen - just found the photo - such a sad face!
06:49 indradg cait: i'm listening
06:49 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
06:49 cait @later tcohen - just found the photo - such a sad face!
06:49 cait indradg: maybe include some explanation about what ime is in the pref description in .pref?
06:48 cait hi reiveune :)
06:48 reiveune hi indradg magnuse cait dcook and everybody
06:48 cait indradg: cool
06:47 indradg hi reiveune
06:46 wahanui hello, reiveune
06:46 reiveune hello
06:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5621 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Google Translation for indian languages.
06:43 indradg I'm writing the patch to address bug 5621
06:42 indradg it drives Wikipedia's browser based multi-lingual input methods
06:41 indradg cait: ^
06:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Adding support of jquery.ime to Koha
06:41 indradg Bug 12815
06:40 indradg it is a jquery based input method (editor)
06:40 indradg yay! thanks a bunch!
06:40 cait what is jquery ime?
06:40 cait looking good afaikt :)
06:39 indradg cait: I'm trying to submit two sysprefs, so does this do the job? http://pastebin.com/Z3CwHW9m
06:29 cait it's a little gimmick
06:28 cait that is for easier testing - if you have XXX you can run the database update without your version number being updated
06:28 cait the patch was submitted with XXX there
06:28 magnuse it should be covered here, not sure if it is up to date: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference
06:28 cait yes, tomas set the 3.17.00.014
06:28 indradg }
06:28 indradg SetVersion($DBversion);
06:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12529 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Overdue notices do not respect holidays
06:28 indradg print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (Bug 12529 - Adding a syspref to allow the overdue notices to consider the calendar when generating notices)\n";
06:28 indradg ");
06:28 indradg ('OverdueNoticeCalendar',0,'Take calendar into consideration when working out sending overdue notices','YesNo')
06:28 indradg INSERT INTO systempreferences (variable,value,explanation,type) VALUES
06:28 indradg $dbh->do("
06:28 indradg if ( CheckVersion($DBversion) ) {
06:28 indradg $DBversion = '3.17.00.014';
06:28 indradg cait: the last syspref insert was from tomas
06:27 cait hi magnuse
06:27 cait and in sysprefs.sql (which is sorted alphabetically!) you also add the sql from the updatedatabase
06:27 * magnuse waves
06:27 cait and you don't submit kohaversion.pl
06:27 cait in updatedatabase you add a new instance and put the version in as XXX
06:26 indradg yep
06:26 cait do you need help with adding a system preference?
06:26 indradg hi cait
06:26 cait hi indradg
06:26 indradg did not exactly get "The release manager will be the one that assigns the correct DB version number. <<YOURINSERT>> should match the insert line you provided in installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql and <<YOURPREF>>, well, your new preference"
06:25 * indradg scratching head over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference
06:24 indradg anyone around?
06:16 dcook No Javascript. Just IE7 treating buttons within an html form differently than every other browser ever.
06:15 dcook I should've saw it before...
06:15 dcook Ahhhhh
05:55 cait bye all
05:44 dcook Hmm, but there has to be some JS to prompt the submission..
05:43 dcook They reload the whole page :S
05:43 dcook Hmm, it's not Javascript...that's why I can't find it.
05:17 dcook I think that's the Javascript that is doing the work... but not what started it..
05:17 dcook Hmm, I don't think I've got it quite right
05:17 dcook Looks like I've tracked it down to an anonymous function in jquery 1.10? :S
05:16 dcook Yeah, I'm trying to trace a Javascript event for adding a DOM node..
05:15 eythian It's never fun at that level
05:15 eythian it came from tracing through the script with the perl debugger.
05:15 dcook Well solved :)
05:13 eythian that was an annoying mystery
05:13 eythian so it was falling back to prog except sometimes.
05:13 eythian I had opaclanguage set to en-NZ but hadn't generated bootstrap templates for most of it.
05:13 eythian ah
05:06 dcook I'm thinking it's scriptaculous or prototype magic that I'm not seeing...
05:03 * dcook doesn't have anything to add about Koha. Just complaints about DSpace :p.
04:52 eythian also, I'm making a new law against modules that don't stacktrace when they fail
04:52 eythian this is totally weird
04:48 dcook Eeep
04:47 eythian and so ends up using a bit of each that causes explosion
04:47 eythian hmm, why is my dev koha confused as to whether it should be trying to use prog or bootstrap?
04:44 * dcook needs to grab a late lunch...
04:44 dcook It would be pretty rad if the displays respected the visibility settings
04:44 dcook ciao wizzyrea
04:43 dcook Hmm
04:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
04:43 dcook bug 11592
04:43 wizzyrea ok well I have to run to get the sprog.
04:43 wizzyrea he hasn't been around much lately
04:43 dcook I think he might've addressed some of my comments. But that was a while ago
04:42 dcook Although I just commented. I didn't fail QA or anything like that
04:42 wizzyrea that is unhappymaking <o>
04:42 dcook eythian: I don't think so. I wasn't too keen on some of the code.
04:42 wizzyrea \o/ that is happy making
04:42 eythian I recall it not being far away from being in
04:42 wizzyrea oo
04:42 wizzyrea "because the natlib is giving us records that have it"
04:42 eythian wizzyrea: mtompset has done that, not sure if it's in master yet
04:42 dcook Other than, perhaps, that the LoC does it
04:42 dcook I've had a few libraries want the 336, 337, 338, but I'm not sure why
04:41 dcook exactly
04:41 wizzyrea nobody has told us how to display it
04:41 dcook mtompset was working on that
04:41 wizzyrea there probably is.
04:41 dcook The thing about RDA that I find interesting...besides the 264...I don't necessarily see the utility
04:41 wizzyrea wish there were a way to reconcile the visibility features of the frameworks with XSLT.
04:41 wizzyrea ah right
04:41 dcook Only if you're not using the XSLTs
04:41 dcook In terms of display?
04:40 dcook Hmm?
04:40 wizzyrea actually... could you just do that?
04:40 dcook Yeah, we've done that for some of our libraries
04:40 wizzyrea well yeah.
04:40 dcook The 264 is a bit tougher than the 336,337,338
04:40 wizzyrea though... I suspect we'd probably change our koha->marc mappings to prefer the RDA publisher fields over the old ones
04:40 dcook Yeah, it would be pretty trivial
04:39 wizzyrea putting the fields on is really no big deal.
04:38 cait hi all
04:38 eythian dcook: RDA
04:37 wahanui i guess Which is why it is strange that it BROKE... after upgrading like that.
04:37 dcook eythian: Which?
04:37 wahanui cait is probably from germany. Ask me about germany.
04:37 eythian wahanui: cait?
04:37 eythian hi cait
04:37 eythian surely it's only a few days work to implement in the first place
04:37 dcook yo cait
04:37 dcook Of course, if they don't have up-to-date frameworks, they won't have RDA fields anyway :p
04:37 wizzyrea we lack funding for this work.
04:37 dcook for upstreaming
04:36 dcook Mmm, yeah, I've done that locally. It's on the "to do" list
04:36 wizzyrea desperately needs someone to put the RDA fields on
04:36 dcook Oh?
04:36 wizzyrea sad as, i think
04:36 dcook I remember suggesting deprecating the non-XSLT display...
04:36 dcook I wonder what the state of the XSLTs is...
04:35 dcook I think it's a reasonable change :)
04:35 dcook Exactly
04:35 wizzyrea but not on the results
04:35 wizzyrea for lists.
04:35 wizzyrea I have a library who wants to see the abstract on the result view
04:35 wizzyrea well for example
04:35 dcook I'm usually good using the results, but yeah...I think sometimes it could be handy to have a custom list view
04:34 dcook I'm thinking that's the way to go
04:34 wizzyrea then you still only maintain the regular ones.
04:34 wizzyrea or it can use the result one, unless you tell it otherwise
04:34 dcook The only downside of that is maintaining another XSLT :/
04:34 wizzyrea default, or any custom one
04:34 wizzyrea it needs a pref like the one for results and detail
04:34 dcook Actually, I might be wrong there...
04:33 dcook I think using XSLT in list view was a fairly recent addition as well
04:33 * dcook isn't sure though
04:33 dcook I think that's probably the answer
04:33 wizzyrea an acceptable answer would be "because no one has made it do that"
04:32 wizzyrea as distinguished from the regular result view
04:32 wizzyrea ...question, why can we not have a custom XSLT for the list view?
04:24 dcook Not that I'm actually still using vimdiff. But I just remembered, in case anyone else feels like using vimdiff for the first time.
04:24 dcook "zr", you're my friend
02:52 dcook Folding just occurs somewhat unexpectedly...
02:52 dcook My bad for bashing vimdiff
01:23 indradg :)
01:23 rangi yep
01:22 indradg rangi: ^^^
01:21 indradg right?
01:21 indradg I should add it under - I18N/L10N preferences
01:20 indradg I'm planning to add a syspref that will allow the koha admin to toggle whether an js-based multi-lingual keyboard is supported or not... this will be available to both lib and opac interfaces.
01:18 wahanui kia ora, indradg
01:18 indradg hi
01:15 petter hi chris!
01:15 rangi hi petter
01:15 petter hi #koha
01:13 mtj hi irma_, #koha
01:11 irma_ G'day mtj ^^
01:07 dcook yikes, a very unstable third-party website...
00:47 tcohen am i online?
00:46 tcohen night #koha
00:39 tcohen dcook: do u use git for maintaining your templates? and re-compile the war to deploy the updated one?
00:39 dcook Hmm, perhaps it's coincidence and it's a third-party website that is letting me down..
00:37 dcook Or neither. I have no idea...
00:37 dcook Then again maybe it wasn't vimdiff, and it's just that tomcat sucks..
00:35 dcook Yay for "undo"
00:35 dcook I'm thinking I might give that a whirl
00:34 * tcohen uses kdiff3
00:32 dcook Totally busted my templates..
00:32 dcook Bloody vimdiff...
00:31 tcohen :-P
00:31 tcohen its easy to test
00:30 tcohen it has a weird name, but belive me heh
00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records
00:29 tcohen bug 12788
00:29 dcook I think I forgot to send myself that reminder email the other day
00:29 dcook What's the bug number again, tcohen?
00:28 tcohen thanks!
00:28 tcohen ok
00:24 dcook Possibly later in the day. I have a bunch of DSpace work I need to get done today first :/
00:24 tcohen dcook: will u be able to give the facet patches a ride?
00:24 tcohen heh
00:17 * dcook glares at vimdiff
00:15 dcook Mmm, I think that one is pretty trustworthy ;)
00:12 tcohen i tested they don't introduce regressions for chromium and firefox
00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12325 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Passed QA , Marc and Card view in Z39.50 Results doesn't work properly in IE 8
00:11 tcohen bug 12325
00:11 dcook tcohen: Is there a particular patch you're curious about?
00:11 dcook Yeah, that's the right link
00:10 dcook Right website though
00:10 dcook That might be the wrong link...
00:10 dcook https://www.modern.ie/en-gb/virtualization-tools
00:10 dcook If you want to test, there are VMs that you can use
00:10 dcook I think that they do the job :p
00:10 dcook tcohen: That's a tricky question :p
00:08 tcohen dcook: can I trust your IE patches do their job? I don't have one for testing
00:08 tcohen hi dcook
00:00 dcook Honestly, I had totally forgot
00:00 dcook eythian: cool. good to know :)