Time Nick Message 23:49 indradg how to resolve this? I'm trying to build off git 23:49 indradg I see a thread here http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-May/039555.html 23:47 indradg however, ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u is showing missing dep 23:46 indradg Readonly::XS 1.05 is installed on my Kubuntu 13.04 23:46 indradg hi! 22:16 tcohen hi eythian 22:10 wahanui bonjour, eythian 22:10 eythian hi 21:28 wizzyrea but it's windy. 21:28 wizzyrea hm that's not terrible. 21:28 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 21:28 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 21:28 * wizzyrea wishes for warm weather 20:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8539: Library transfer limits page has incorrect permission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59fc1f5b4106a312d3d1e75d127e6c5a19373075> / Bug 4162 - Followup: only count potential barcodes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0deb4908a24c03c03cc9a7a0353f47a947648852> / Bug 4162 The inventory tool lacks validation for barcodes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe 20:47 * tcohen misses cold weather 20:47 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 34.6°C (5:45 PM ART on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 20:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 20:44 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 20:44 tcohen @later tell rangi please change the dashboard so the status for master is picked from Koha_Master_D7 on jenkins 20:17 tcohen I mean Koha_Master_D7 20:17 tcohen *kidding 20:17 tcohen rangi: can we change the dashboard? so the build status for master checks Koha_Master_U14? 20:14 wahanui privet, tcohen 20:14 tcohen hi there 19:19 tcohen bye #koha 17:34 cait also cool to see bugs with so low numbers fixed :) 16:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11244: (follow-up) Fix $dateonly flag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f68dad1f2a872fc30b579180c6a5a415cdd77a1> / Bug 11244: notices ignoring the dateformat preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7605f91f0f4903b256f5f060ee9845c427947096> / Bug 11244: Add unit tests for GetPreparedLetter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h= 16:40 tcohen Joubu++ 16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too 16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , z39.50 results do not show search terms 16:38 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error 16:38 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup 16:38 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 1561 - z39.50 results do not show search terms 16:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #138: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/138/ 16:38 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 16:38 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 16:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too 16:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , z39.50 results do not show search terms 16:30 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error 16:30 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup 16:30 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 1561 - z39.50 results do not show search terms 16:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #133: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/133/ 16:30 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 16:30 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11244 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , notices ignoring the dateformat preference 16:00 Joubu tcohen: I added UT on bug 11244. 15:53 oleonard Thanks jcamins 15:52 jcamins That is correct. 15:51 wahanui thanks druthb :) 15:51 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie 15:51 wahanui well, jcamins is the best cookie-chef in #koha. 15:51 oleonard jcamins? 15:48 oleonard link_bibs_to_authorities.pl attempts to find authority records which match, for instance, subject headings in a bib record? Is that right? 15:47 datadoctor Hi All! 15:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8193c40b9dc8f952ff0774d8503bd0e018cf7c05> / Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eca3f6d37c24b5a510d26e0a0b8e0233420fe03a> / Bug 1561 - z39.50 results do not show search terms <http://git.koha-community.org/git 15:17 barton Oh well, not the first time a partner led me down the primrose path; won't be the last. 15:17 cait hm don't remember something like that either 15:15 oleonard I don't think so 15:15 barton hmmm. Someone in #bywater mentioned that there was an "Override all" button at one time. 15:14 oleonard barton: For instance, one must confirm each time to override checking out an item which exceeds item type limits 15:13 huginn tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 11 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> but rangi's right, can ask 15:13 oleonard I don't think it works that way for any override 15:13 tcohen @seen gmcharlt 15:13 cait buti am not totally sure, it sounds unusual 15:13 cait i think we never could do hat 15:13 barton cait -- the possible values for OverduesBlockCirc are 'Ask for confirmation', 'Block' and "Don't Block" ... The partner wants to ask for confirmation on the *first* checkin, but wants the option to override any following check outs for the same patron. 15:12 reiveune bye 15:12 oleonard no 15:12 tcohen oleonard: have you bisected your permission problem regarding cache::fastmmap ? 15:08 barton cait++ 15:08 barton cait -- I'll have to check that syspref. 15:03 cait oleonard, Joubu: you were right 15:00 cait barton: you tried both settings for OverduesBlockCirc? 14:59 cait barton: hm i am not sure if we changed that 14:58 barton ... I'm trying to find out more about that change ... who, what, where, why .... 14:57 cait you are right, it's empty 14:57 barton I'm trying to find out a bit about a change that was made to circ between 3.12 and 3.14 ... apparently, we removed the 'override all' option on checkout -- now, if a patron has items overdue, circ staff have to override every item. 14:56 cait what should go in htere? 14:56 cait ooh 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12494 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Remove yuipath system preference 14:56 oleonard cait: Looks like your yuipath system preference is missing, probably from testing Bug 12494 14:56 Joubu cait: your yuipath is empty? 14:55 barton heh. 14:55 wahanui well, morning is a state of the cait 14:55 rocio morning! 14:54 barton morning, rocio. 14:54 barton morning, #koha! 14:53 cait another hour on the train for me now :) then home 14:53 cait sorry, you just asked before we got into the mountains 14:53 cait oleonard, Joubu: http://paste.koha-community.org/165 14:53 oleonard present 14:52 wahanui oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 14:52 cait oleonard? 14:24 oleonard The yuipath doesn't seem to matter in my test 14:23 oleonard Oh I guess they're included even if you're not in the basket edit view 14:23 oleonard There shouldn't be any YUI dependencies on that page. 14:23 oleonard cait1: Actually it shouldn't matter, not on the tabbed page. 14:21 oleonard cait1: What is your yuipath system preference setting? 14:20 cait1 yahoo is not defined 14:20 cait1 it happens for Books Books Books too :( 14:20 cait1 hm 14:20 cait1 i didn't notice that when i filed the bug 14:20 cait1 wth apostrophe 14:20 cait1 my vendor is: katrin's bookshop 14:20 cait1 i think i know 14:20 cait1 oh 14:20 cait1 trying 14:20 cait1 really bad internet now - black forrest 14:17 wahanui oleonard: I forgot which ones 14:17 oleonard wahanui: forget which ones 14:16 wahanui which ones are those? 14:16 Joubu cait1: which ones? 14:16 cait1 quite a few 14:15 cait1 aout files not being found 14:15 cait1 oleonard: yes 14:04 magnuse hooray for the unsung heroes! 14:03 oleonard http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2014/08/20/unsung-heroes-of-koha-29-jim-minges/ 14:03 oleonard rangi++ # nice blog post about Jim Minges 13:48 Joubu works for me too 13:46 oleonard cait1: Do you get a JS error? 13:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12783 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Tabbed view on acq basket group page broken 13:46 oleonard cait1: I can't reproduce Bug 12783 13:44 ashimema hi tcohen.. 13:43 ashimema though I have no idea if there are 400's and 100s in the db's as is.. 13:43 tcohen hi ashimema 13:43 ashimema cait1.. feel free to point one of them at the ptfs-euroep sandboxes.. they're all feeling lonely at the moment ;) 13:35 tcohen cait1: it needs love, anyway 13:31 tcohen cait1: agreed 13:30 cait1 it should be totally doable on a sandbox, if you switch the pref before creating your authority and record 13:30 cait1 i think it would be cool if one of the libraries tested it 13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records 13:29 tcohen bug 12788 13:07 oleonard Now it's working. Firefox hiccup I guess. 13:06 cait1 and also there was a javascript error in one of the versions, which version are you on? 13:06 cait1 it does nothing if no server as added 13:05 cait1 did you set up the server in the config? 13:05 oleonard The "New from Z39.50" button does nothing 12:55 cait1 heh 12:54 oleonard Thanks jcamins and cait1 12:54 oleonard That should teach me never to read a FAQ: http://authorities.loc.gov/help/auth-faq.htm#5 12:53 cait1 http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_z3950_servers.sql;h=68e28a04f7b3131753e6cf8415ca0d37192f66db;hb=71ba269136c61e57e8388f91f2562d062004d7fd 12:52 cait1 i could offer you access to our german gnd file for authorities :) 12:52 cait1 hm 12:52 jcamins oleonard: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/lcserver.html 12:51 oleonard "Q: Does the Library of Congress provide Z39.50 access to authority records? A: No." :P 12:50 cait1 oleonard: not sure if there was a database update to add them, maybe check the sql files directly 12:50 cait1 oleonard: i think the sample file has loc 12:49 oleonard cait1: No I didn't. Now I need some authority record sources I guess. 12:48 bgkriegel hi cait oleonard tcohen and all 12:47 tcohen hi cait bgkriegel oleonard 12:47 cait1 did you see you can download them now via z39.50 in the authorities module? 12:47 cait1 ok, i might be confused :) 12:45 oleonard Uh... Get authorities? :) 12:45 cait1 oleonard: what are you trying to do ? :) 12:45 cait1 ? 12:45 cait1 hm z39.50 an then export maybe= 12:44 oleonard Anyone know if there are simple ways to get authority records from LOC or elsewhere besides though the web site? 12:39 * cait1 waves 12:36 oleonard Hi bgkriegel 12:35 bgkriegel buen dÃa 12:33 cait1 i will put a note in the comment 12:33 cait1 hm ok 12:33 khall that's actually how it's intended to work, even if it didn't previously. 12:32 cait1 so for a borrower there is always only one line in the table 12:32 cait1 qa from a train isn't easy... khall - it seems with yohann's patch one modification request overwrites the other - i am a bit worried by that 12:30 khall cait: those should dovetail together just fine 12:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12784 critical, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , A patron cannot change his personal details 12:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1274 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, problem in UNIMARC Editor, when adding a subfield 12:29 cait morning tcohen 12:29 cait hm bug 12784 that is 12:29 cait khall: talking about bug 1274 12:28 cait he also adds some line about the verification token 12:28 cait coudl you check how your patch goes together with yohann's? 12:28 oleonard Open of share file /tmp/sharefile-koha-koha failed: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/Cache/FastMmap.pm line 640. 12:27 wahanui it has been said that morning is a state of cat 12:27 tcohen morning! 12:20 khall I understand. I've added a reply to his comment 12:19 cait that's ok, but i didn't want to ignore nick's comment 12:18 khall cait: Chris signed it, so you can qa it 12:16 khall k 12:16 cait could you try and clear things up a bit so we can get that bug moving? :) 12:15 khall if we do it the way he suggests it could easily introduce regressions at a later date 12:15 khall cait: nick may be correct, but he's trying to solve the problem at the wrong level. 12:13 cait thx 12:12 khall I'll take a look 12:12 cait khall: bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12371#c7 < is a comment from nick about your patch, but couldn't make sense of it 12:11 cait not quite that many bugs yet wahanui 12:10 wahanui 25155 12:10 cait 12784 and 12371 12:09 cait could you maybe take a look? 12:09 cait i wonder 12:08 khall np! 12:08 khall yo 12:08 cait khall: still around? 12:06 cait i am working on the follow up now - 12784 12:05 cait i prompty fell asleep after that tho - sleepy cait on a train today 12:05 cait ah, hope it was ok 12:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12781 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , DBIx::Class schema should preserve case for column names 12:04 cait bug 12781 12:03 khall looks like cait beat me to the qa punch on 12781 ; ) 12:02 cait :) 12:00 oleonard My youngest starts kindergarten Friday. No more preschool for us! 11:59 cait :) 11:57 oleonard Taking care of the kids during the transition between summer day care and the first week of school 11:56 cait oleonard: vacation? :) 11:54 magnuse kia ora oleonard 11:54 cait hi oleonard :) 11:53 oleonard Hi #koha 11:11 ashimema I've never seen it before? 11:11 ashimema I've just had a customer report that on their mac machines (a macbook air, and an ipad) they can't login to the opac in bootstrap becasue the modal doesn't open. 11:10 ashimema anyone happen to be aware of any bugs with our modal dialogue and safari recently? 11:09 ashimema sounds like just the ticket though in a very brief look.. 11:09 ashimema nor me.. 11:09 * magnuse neither 11:06 Joubu magnuse: yes, a bit, but I wasn't aware of Test::DBIx::Class::Factory 11:04 magnuse https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::DBIx::Class 11:04 magnuse Joubu: have you looked at Test::DBIx::Class? 10:59 * rangi has to go to sleep, gotta teach people jenkins tomorrow 10:51 rangi we could use Test::DBIx::Class::Factory 10:48 Joubu rangi: Do you know an abstraction layer we could use to build data for UT? 10:47 Joubu ashimema: Since it's based on the DB structure, I don't understand why you want it to manage db independent tests. 10:42 ashimema I can see it's merits.. but yeah.. I'm still on the knife edge in terms of whether I think it's a good abstraction or not... if it lead to one test running as db dependant and independent.. then I'd see allot more merit. ;) 10:41 ashimema oh.. rangi :).. That's the sort of opinion I was hoping to catch you for yesterday. 10:40 rangi it feels to me like sqlhelper all over again, building our own bespoke abstraction layers that come back to annoy us all 10:40 ashimema :) 10:40 ashimema That's whats taken time for me to get my head around.. I want others to get their heads around it faster so that they make the effort to learn how to use it. 10:39 ashimema and a more wordy description of 'why' is makes a developers life easier/why they should start using it to write new tests. 10:37 ashimema for example.. to encourage adoption ;) 10:37 ashimema it's more things like adding it's use to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests 10:36 ashimema There's half reasonable POD in there actually.. only a couple of translation issues I think really.. 10:36 Joubu ashimema: The lack of pod is my fault. I told yohann it is better to provide examples than a lot of words to explain why it's useful. 10:31 ashimema I'm getting mroe and mroe keen to stick it in.. but I wan't to make sure it's got a decent chance of being utilised 10:31 ashimema sorry it's taken me a while to get to.. I've been mulling it over for a fiar chunk of time.. 10:30 Joubu ashimema: great, thanks! Yes, his trainee ends on Friday 10:28 ashimema Joubu.. I've added a few comment to TestBuilder. would be interested to see Yohann's thoughts.. he's still about for the next couple of days right? 09:25 cait ok 09:17 cait i think we need to get as close to that as possible again 09:17 Joubu (the csv and ods option are for something else...) 09:17 cait the old behaviour was: send an email with a plain text attachement with all the notices texts that couldn#t be send by email to the library 09:17 Joubu Actually I am confuse. I will try to have a look in the afternoon 09:16 Joubu because it's not relevant 09:16 Joubu no 09:16 cait does your change take more than one letter code? 09:16 Joubu it's why I add the csv and ods option and the --email 09:15 Joubu that what does the gather_print_notices :-/ 09:15 cait we need an option to send them all in one email 09:15 cait and also... we use up to 6 different overdue letters 09:15 Joubu (remember: I rebased these patches for 2 years...) 09:14 cait i am not against the gather print script - but i am not sure how to fit it in and how to tell libraries they need to switch 09:14 cait we need to notify the library and give them a means to notify the patrons 09:13 Joubu If the message exist in the message_queue with the mtt print, I don't think we need it sent too 09:13 cait yeah i think we can agree on that then 09:13 cait I am not sure how to fix it, but i think we need to figure something out 09:13 Joubu cait: I understand perfectly the issue and it can be critical for some libraries. But I need a good idea to fix the workflow 09:12 Joubu supposed* 09:12 cait a mess 09:12 Joubu and because I suppose that the print message in the queue could be use later 09:11 cait it is 09:11 cait i noted the commit on the bug 09:11 cait if you switch back to the commit before mtt - you can see the behaviour, even with the current table structure 09:11 cait Joubu: it was a text attachement with th emessage texts not csv 09:11 Joubu Because this script is a mess :) 09:10 cait Joubu: why not? 09:08 Joubu actually, the current code only generate the csv if --no-email is given 09:05 Joubu but we can't sent to the library AND put it in the message_queue 09:04 cait properly 09:04 cait and then phase it out 09:04 cait so maybe we do need to reintroduce 09:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address 09:04 cait bug 12717 09:03 cait but a lot of libraries are using that 09:03 cait as a text attachement in a mail to the library - not pretty 09:03 cait without setting any parameter it just sent you the ones for patrons without email before 09:03 cait see the bug i posted earlier - it sends an email with data for ALL oerdues 09:03 cait yes, but it#s not quite right 09:02 Joubu with! 09:02 Joubu cait: overdue_notices can sent an email if you call it without --no-email 09:01 Joubu you will be able to do something like : gather_print_notices.pl --email=e@ex.org --letter_code=ODUE 09:01 cait and it still has a lot of code to create files 09:01 cait Joubu: i tend to agree - but then we should remove the email code from the script too... after restoring the feature 09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: send files by email 09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export 09:01 Joubu bug 11603 and bug 11678 09:00 Joubu But I agree, the change has not been reported somewhere. 09:00 Joubu cait: I am not sure it's a good idea to reintroduce this behavior into the overdue_notices script. IMO gather_print_notices should do the job. 08:59 cait a plain text attachement like it used to - can you give me the bug number of your patch again? 08:58 Joubu cait: "can't do text"? 08:58 cait having a print entry for each patron is actually nice - i am worried about the change it means and that we didn't notice it 08:57 cait and that they need to setup a new tool 08:57 cait but i am still not sure how to alert libraries of the change 08:57 cait Joubu: i think you can't do text with your new patches? 08:57 cait Joubu: not sure about that, it does seem to make sense to add one 08:57 cait because they have never used the other cronjob 08:57 cait and htat's bad 08:57 cait assuming not getting an email means there have been no notices for patrons without email 08:57 cait i saw a commen tlast night - i just wanted to add it's not something new - it's a regression and libraries might not even notice it for a while :( 08:53 Joubu cait: Do you know why aqorders_items.itemnumber does not have a FK to items.itemnumber? 08:52 Joubu cait: it could be done using the gather_print_notices (with new patches already submit), but no really sure... 08:51 Joubu cait: did you see my comment on that (don't remember the bug number)? 08:50 cait Joubu: I think we need to restore the option to send a text summary of the print notices to the library for patrons without email only - i am not sure how 08:49 * magnuse wonders off for a moment 08:48 magnuse tomorrow will be the first full day 08:48 magnuse cait: yeah, more or less 08:48 cait magnuse: are you back now? :) 08:47 Joubu it's updated, there are notes 08:46 cait Joubu: maybe update the wki page? 08:43 magnuse (and kia ora rangi and eythian!) 08:43 Joubu are*! 08:43 Joubu the 4 first points. The others is fixed or not relevant 08:42 Joubu There are no known bugs. The only known bugs is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development#Known_bugs 08:42 rangi we should be able to test all of that, and fix that before putting it in master, any staff issues can be fixed after pushing 08:42 rangi 30ish pages 08:42 rangi the opac is small 08:42 rangi i agree with cait 08:41 magnuse Joubu: i agree with you. noone will evr be able to signoff on testing everything. the only option i can see is to push what we have as soon as possible and fix things if and when they turn up 08:41 cait i want to comment on the bug, but internet on the train is really... annoying 08:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address 08:41 cait bug 12717 08:40 cait we need to fix that with a high priority 08:40 cait we already had a feature to automatically send an email to the library - that is no longer working 08:40 cait Joubu: about the overdues when patron has no email - the mtt broke an existing feature 08:39 cait it's good to have Paola testing 08:39 cait yep 08:38 ashimema that's impressive 08:38 Joubu cait: Zeno and Paola did an amazing job, they tested ~80% of Koha. They found bugs on master too. 08:37 ashimema of course.. silly me 08:36 cait i don't care so much if things show up in staff, but everything visible to the user we know about i'd like to see fixed 08:36 cait i could agree 08:36 cait Joubu: i think if there are no known bugs in opac 08:36 Joubu ashimema: In october I will be in Argentina :) 08:35 ashimema Will buy you a pint when in liverpool in october if your about Joubu 08:34 Joubu magnuse: to answer you, I think we are waiting someone to write UT. 08:33 Joubu (yes I know nobody agrees) 08:33 Joubu Because for now, we introduce new regressions in master, and we will have to fix it later. 08:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 08:32 wahanui okay, eythian. 08:32 eythian wahanui: cait is also from germany. Ask \me about germany. 08:32 Joubu IMO, the only way to go further with bug 11944 is to push all patches into master and fix remaining bugs when we will find them. 08:32 wahanui ...but cait is just silly on a train again... 08:32 eythian wahanui: cait is from germany. Ask \me about germany. 08:32 ashimema blame me in this case.. we'll get there in the end I hope. 08:32 ashimema I used the comment to go look at the bug.. and wrongly from what your saying, thought it would be easier to rebase in that direction as apposed to the other. 08:31 Joubu cait: I didn't see them 08:31 Joubu thought* 08:30 Joubu ashimema: I let a note, I though it was enough. It could be great to highlight some important comment on a bug report. 08:29 cait Joubu: i saw paola left some notes on the wiki - are those bugs that need to be fixed still? 08:29 ashimema highlighting to QA that maybe the bug your QAing should have been based atop another more important one? 08:29 cait i hadn't seen the other bug - if I had known ealrier maybe we could have figured out something 08:29 cait so at least for those libraries it's a bug fix too 08:29 cait i know we labelled the other as a ft, but actually it's something that's been pretty awful for us a long time - every single of our libraires using fines complained about it 08:29 cait I can test the date overdue bug too - helping with ashimema to get it in 08:29 ashimema I'm thinking of doing a file based check for conflicting bugs from the command line as part of the qa process 08:29 Joubu ashimema: there is a rest api, yes 08:28 magnuse the last thing i remember, there was a plan to have a bug squash day for the utf-8 stuff, and i think there was one? so what happens now? 08:27 Joubu ashimema: what do you want to do with it? 08:27 ashimema almost wonder if we could add a check for conflicts in the qa script.. it's stupidly easy to miss them 08:27 cait for various reasons, just things take generally longer than expected 08:27 cait but it seems that those take a lot longer than i had hoped they would :( 08:27 magnuse Joubu: thanks! ;-) 08:27 ashimema randon question.. does your splitter app have an API? 08:27 Joubu I should have increased* 08:27 ashimema actually maybe we should put some rules around that.. using severity as an indicator to QA for when such occurrences happen. 08:26 Joubu magnuse: yes, you have been selected to SO it! Congratulations! 08:26 ashimema that would certianly help.. 08:26 ashimema yeah.. it is pretty severe 08:25 Joubu ashimema: maybe I should increase the severity of my bugfix, because it's a major one (even if the date option never worked...) 08:25 ashimema anywho.. was nothing personal.. the other bug just hit my vision first :( 08:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 08:25 magnuse is there a plan for bug 11944 now? 08:25 cait i had hoped that we could concentrate on it after we are done with the utf-8 fixes 08:25 ashimema I just don't know the answer. 08:25 ashimema We can't expect people to fix long standing bugs before doing work they've been paid to do though.. which is more the bugger.. I admit, in this case I wish Chris had spotted the conflict and signed your bug off first.. 08:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system 08:23 Joubu ashimema: tcohen told me he will try to have a look too. 08:23 ashimema I also want to see bug 6427 moving again too.. but it's massive and scary 08:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 08:23 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:22 Joubu ashimema: I don't abandon bugs :) I just haven't the time at the moment 08:22 cait hopefully not 08:22 ashimema maybe I'll take a look at rebasing it myself if I get a moment. 08:22 ashimema yeah.. it would be a fine bug to fix. 08:22 ashimema but even then.. you never really know when a bug has been abandoned.. 08:22 Joubu ashimema: but it's a real lack. As I explained in my comment, it's the only (simple) way to launch overdues with a date != today 08:22 ashimema splitter really helps if people use it.. 08:21 ashimema I;m not really sure how to fix the issue of overlapping bugs in general though.. 08:21 ashimema ok. 08:21 cait i am on a train, so the internet connection will be bad again 08:21 Joubu I don't have time at the moment to rebase old stuff, sorry 08:21 cait the stop sleeping comment wasn't to be taken serious 08:21 cait will be back after 08:21 cait i will be kicked out soon for a few minutes - lots of tunnels 08:21 cait i am just silly on a train again 08:21 cait nah, don't listen tome 08:20 Joubu IMO the ft should not be pushed before the bug fix. 08:20 Joubu ashimema: Actually I didn't plan to rebase it. It was waiting a SO for 1 year, I raise an alert on the bug report letting a comment. 08:20 ashimema I obviosly didn't look at it in enough depth then 08:19 ashimema oh.. really? 08:19 ashimema But first.. I'm just about done reviewing the testbuilder code.. I have a feeling it's not gonna get a huge amount of uptake.. but I can't see any real reason to fail it. 08:19 Joubu ashimema: I had a look yesterday and it does not seem easy to rebase it :-/ 08:18 ashimema Joubu.. if you want to rebase your date on overdues bug, I'll happily test.. I tend to concentrate on stuff in the qa queue at the minute.. hense my seeing chris's bug affecting similar code first.. I took a look at your bug though and thought ti looked simpler to refactor than the other way around. 08:16 ashimema my understanding is that jsonp is basically to enable cross domain ajax requests.. but sureley we're not doing cross domain for the catalogue editor 08:15 ashimema lol.. sleep is for wimps aye cait 08:15 ashimema anyone else know why rancor needs jsonp api's? 08:15 cait ashimema: you need to stop sleeping :P 08:14 ashimema sounds like pianohacker has been playing with api's for a school project.. 08:14 ashimema looked interesting though 08:14 ashimema and then the right epople turning up here to chat it out ;) 08:14 ashimema prompted by a list post.. 08:14 magnuse kewl 08:14 ashimema just general chatter I think. 08:14 magnuse was that a dev meeting or just general chatter? 08:14 ashimema cait.. what? 08:13 ashimema oops cait? 08:13 ashimema wish i'de been about ;) 08:13 ashimema lots of chat fixing that facets bug.. lots of chatter around services api, lots of chatter around mysql cli.. all intesting stuff last night.. 08:13 cait i gave wahanui memory loss and now he doesn't know who I am *sob* 08:13 cait :( 08:13 cait cait? 08:13 cait oups 08:13 wahanui cait: I forgot cait 08:13 cait forget cait.. 08:12 cait :) 08:12 cait lots going on 08:12 wahanui cait is going to add: gmcharlt: +1 08:12 ashimema cait.. what? 08:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 08:12 * magnuse wonders about the fate of bug 11944 08:12 cait ashimema: hm? 08:11 cait and mtj and ashimema :) 08:11 cait hey magnuse :) 08:10 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 08:10 ashimema @later tell pianohacker been reading the rancor bug again recently.. why the need for jsonp? 08:10 mtj hiya ashimema, magnuse 08:10 magnuse hiya ashimema 08:10 ashimema morning all 08:10 ashimema looks like allot went on last night :) 08:09 mtj ..should be 'Dont', not 'Do'? ^^ 08:09 ashimema pianohacker++ # koha::services 08:09 mtj system preference set to 'Do' the next time the merge_authority.pl cronjob .... 08:08 * magnuse waves to cait and mtj 08:08 mtj hey cait 08:06 * cait waves 08:00 mtj hey #koha, has anyone else bumped into the confusing 'dontmerge' syspref ? 07:52 dcook I'm off for the night though. Be back tomorrow. Have a good day, magnuse and other folks :) 07:51 dcook :) 07:33 magnuse yay! :-) 07:32 dcook Thanks, magnuse :). It certainly is better. Each day is better than the last. This week has a few more chores, and then it should be onto more fun things :). 07:31 * magnuse hopes life is treating dcook better these days 07:26 magnuse hiya dcook 07:25 dcook heya magnuse :) 07:25 magnuse kia ora #koha! 07:24 magnuse *drumroll* 06:33 wahanui hello, reiveune 06:33 reiveune hello 05:10 dcook Where does the day go... 05:10 * dcook needs food 05:10 dcook Nice one! 05:01 eythian ah, I've found a bit of code that does what I need. Excellent. 04:59 dcook Looks about accurate 04:59 * dcook peeks out the window 04:59 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (2:30 PM EST on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 04:59 dcook @wunder syd 04:58 eythian ick 04:58 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). 04:58 eythian @wunder nzwn 04:53 * dcook thumbs up 04:50 eythian it is nicer and safer than including them on the command line though. 04:49 dcook hehe 04:49 eythian you better, it's the only option I can think of :) 04:49 dac I'll trust you :) 04:49 * dac shrugs 04:48 eythian ) 04:48 eythian (creating mysql .cnf files in /tmp that contain the password 04:47 dac :D 04:47 eythian it's not very elegant, but it'll work. 04:47 eythian I have a plan to fix that 04:47 eythian the package tools will get bit by that too 04:47 eythian yep 04:46 dac Another reason to find other way." 04:46 dac "There's another thing to take into account: when MySQL 5.6 arrives to new debian/ubuntu versions, we'll have a problem. 5.6 client complains a lot to be used on CLI with password as argument, so Koha installer fails miserably because it uses 'mysql' command to load mandatory/optional values in database. 04:46 dac Hmm, pastebot seems to be on the fritz... 04:46 eythian I don't want to copy-paste 150 lines of SQL into updatedatabase and keep it up to date 04:45 eythian but I need to make it work somehow :) 04:45 eythian well, it might be 04:45 dac Ahh, my bad. I think it was something else? 04:45 eythian there's not really another option, as they'll need to be kept in sync 04:45 dac Hmm, I seem to recall bgkriegel saying something about problems with loading SQL files using updatedatabase (or some other installer script) 04:43 eythian heh 04:43 eythian I might have to load the .sql file 04:43 * eythian wonders what the best process is for loading a large chunk of SQL is in updatedatabase. 04:43 dac We already have an author of the month for November 2014 ;) 04:43 dac Interesting... looks like someone's computer is in the future 03:33 vinz3g Thank you. Thank you for your help 03:29 eythian (assuming they haven't already) 03:29 eythian ah yep. You should talk them into upstreaming it. 03:28 vinz3g s 03:28 vinz3g hi, koha-kobli was traslated sql file 03:21 eythian this assumes that someone is going to translate it however 03:21 vinz3g good! 03:16 eythian if someone translates it, yes. 03:15 vinz3g someone there will be translated into Spanish? 03:12 wizzyrea ww 03:12 wizzyrea er 03:12 wizzyrea wr 229142 - any thoughts there? 03:10 eythian there are specificly translated SQL files, I think. 03:10 wizzyrea right, you will not find that in the translation files 03:07 vinz3g ok, if you agree, I did not found it in the translation files, which refers to the names of labels is no translation 03:02 wizzyrea it is possible, as far as I know, but it is not in the usual translation workflow. 03:02 wizzyrea I'm not sure which part you mean 03:01 vinz3g is possible to translate the framework of cataloging koha 02:59 wahanui kia ora, vinz3g 02:59 vinz3g hello 02:57 vinz3g is possible to translate the context of cataloging koha 02:56 vinz3g hi, goodnight 02:50 wahanui marc history is probably http://www.loc.gov/marc/status.html 02:50 dac marc history? 02:50 wahanui The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. 02:50 dac marc? 01:49 rangi heh 01:49 ibeardslee John Key just kicks people out of the cafe when he shares a cup of tea. 01:49 ibeardslee tell them 01:49 ibeardslee I remember a story of someone talking to someone on the phone at a cafe with Helen Clarke (the then PM) at a nearby table. They weren't believed so the passed the phone to Helen to tall them. 01:46 rangi https://twitter.com/PeopleofNZ/status/501867479883202560 01:23 eythian I cheated and used cutlery 01:22 dcook (yet tasty) 01:22 dcook ? 01:22 dcook Seems like it would be difficult to eat/ 01:21 wahanui Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 01:21 dcook Interesting 01:19 eythian so instead of buns, it had chicken 01:19 eythian > Two fried chicken thighs with smoked provolone, crisp onions, cos lettuce and Duke’s sambal, with fries 01:18 dcook burger-like? 01:17 eythian so much chicken in that burger-like thing