Time  Nick         Message
00:29 dcook        Woo. Random Daft Punk on the playlist...
00:29 dcook        :D
00:30 pianohacker  hell yeah
00:30 pianohacker  new or old?
00:30 eythian      http://www.burgerwelly.com/#/?quarter=cbd <-- dcook, you should have scheduled a visit for this week
00:31 dcook        pianohacker: middle?
00:31 dcook        Mmmm burgers
00:31 dcook        What are kumara crisps?
00:31 eythian      chips made from kumara
00:31 dcook        :P
00:32 dcook        Sweet potato, eh? Neat
00:32 eythian      Kumara is a kind of sweet potato
00:32 pianohacker  what in tarnation is a crisp
00:32 pianohacker  *murica noises*
00:34 dcook        hehe
00:34 rangi        pianohacker: what you would call chips
00:34 rangi        chips are what we call fries
00:34 dcook        pianohacker: If it helps, in Australia, they call chips chips and fries chips.
00:34 rangi        also we sometimes call crisps chips too
00:34 * dcook      admires the Australian devotion to the potato
00:35 pianohacker  wow, I knew a bit but apparently there is even more craziness than I thought
00:35 dcook        They also do killer wedges, which are really lacking back in Canada
00:35 dcook        pianohacker: I have a Canadian friend moving here in 2 weeks, and she's been teaching herself Australian using an app ;)
00:35 pianohacker  bahahahaha
00:35 dcook        eythian: Have you checked out any of the burgers yet?
00:36 dcook        Oh, I really need to stop looking at that website. *drools a bit too much*
00:37 eythian      dcook: foolish question :)
00:37 dcook        I have yet to find a really satisfying burger in Australia.
00:37 dcook        hehe
00:37 eythian      I had the third one for lunch today
00:37 dcook        Oooh. That was one of the first ones that piqued my interest.
00:37 dcook        Hot & Saucy Stag?
00:37 eythian      oh, not in order
00:38 eythian      doing them in rough order of "what's nearby work"
00:38 dcook        Mmm
01:50 ivan         I have an actively running server that does not yet have email notifications enabled (it doesn't have postfix setup). If I setup postfix on the server will it send old emails that previously could not be sent?
01:51 rangi        check the messages table in the database
01:52 rangi        if its full up with pending messages, then yes
01:52 rangi        you can safely delete them
01:52 eythian      start with 'mailq'
01:52 ivan         Excellent. I wan't to make sure if I set it up I won't have a bunch of old messages get sent.
01:53 ivan         Thank you. I will check that now.
01:53 wnickc_      message_queue or messages?  just curious for my own sake
01:53 rangi        message_queue
01:53 wahanui      it has been said that message_queue is good for reporting
01:53 eythian      oh, yeah, that too
01:54 eythian      also mailq if a mail server was installed but not configured.
01:54 ivan         I am referring to messages as in email notification messages.
01:54 ivan         So I should check mailq, something else?
01:54 eythian      and message_queue in the koha database
01:54 ivan         Ok
01:56 dcook        @wunder syd
01:56 huginn       dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (11:52 AM EST on August 19, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Rain Showers. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
01:56 * dcook      can't tell if it's rain or hail or some new form of precipitation...
01:56 dcook        It's like it's falling in every direction at once..
01:57 eythian      @wunder nzwn
01:57 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on August 19, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
01:57 eythian      not actually too bad here.
01:58 eythian      I really wonder how merging biblios handles it if they each have a rating from the same person.
01:58 eythian      I bet it explodes
02:21 ivan         eythian: Does it matter if I delete the records from the table using a truncate or a regular delete?
02:21 ivan         Put another way, should I reset the ID counter?
02:21 ivan         Does it matter?
02:21 eythian      doesn't matter, I like to reset the counters, but it's not a big deal either way
02:21 ivan         Ok
02:23 ivan         Alright, mailq and message_queue are clear. Sounds like I am safe to start configuring postfix, no?
02:23 rangi        yep seems alright
02:23 eythian      yep
02:24 ivan         Excellent thanks again.
02:34 bag          @whoami
02:34 huginn       bag: I don't recognize you.
02:34 bag          boooo
02:34 eythian      @whoami
02:34 huginn       eythian: I don't recognize you.
02:34 eythian      hmm
02:34 eythian      it spells recognise wrong.
02:36 bag          HA not for me eythian
02:36 bag          must be a US bot
02:36 eythian      that's just cos you spell it wrong :)
02:51 wnickc_      goodnight #koha
06:31 ashimema_afk morning
06:39 reiveune     hello
07:11 * cait       waves
07:13 cait         @wunder Hannover
07:13 huginn       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
07:14 cait         @wunder Hannover, Germany
07:14 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 14.8°C (9:14 AM CEST on August 19, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
07:14 ashimema     Hi cait
07:14 ashimema     thought you were away today?
07:14 cait         morning ashimema
07:14 cait         i will be :) just checking weather reports
07:14 cait         then breakfast, then zoo :D
07:15 cait         bu tlooks like it's going to rain :(
07:16 ashimema     oh no.. the animals will all hide
07:17 indradg      hi #koha
07:17 cait         ashimema: i don't want to hear that
07:18 * dcook      waves to the folks from the other side of the world
07:18 ashimema     hey dcook..
07:18 ashimema     how hangs it?
07:18 cait         hm someone signed off again!
07:18 cait         hehe
07:18 dcook        Long story, but not too bad at the moment
07:18 dcook        You, ashimema?
07:18 cait         hey dcook
07:18 ashimema     not bad.
07:18 ashimema     just reading keyboard reviews..
07:19 ashimema     this one may ifnally give up the ghost..
07:19 ashimema     not bad for a thrown in with desktop.. cheepy logitch.. best part of 10 years
07:19 dcook        hey cait :)
07:20 * dcook      checks his keyboard
07:20 ashimema     I'm usre the animals will come out to play cait.. maybe the zoo will be quieter too
07:20 dcook        When I was changing desks, I could've switched to a fancier keyboard, but I liked the way my old one felt.
07:20 dcook        Muscle memory and all t hat
07:20 ashimema     Yeah..
07:20 ashimema     I know that feeling.. I'm gonna miss this one if it eventually dies..
07:21 cait         ashimema: giving up the ghost?
07:21 cait         we have exactly the same in german
07:21 cait         den geist aufgeben
07:21 ashimema     I kinda like that no-one else in the house can use it too.. it's so warn that none of the keys have the letter on anymore
07:21 ashimema     :)
07:21 cait         heh
07:22 cait         breakfast time
07:22 cait         have a good day/evening everyone
07:23 ashimema     really wish it was easier to go into a shop and 'play' with a bunch of keyboards..
07:26 dcook        hehe
07:26 dcook        I really wish it would stop raining so much
07:27 ashimema     There's too much choice in keyboards now..
07:27 dcook        ashimema: You need to talk to pianohacker and cjh. Hehe.
07:28 ashimema     Mechanical or Not Mechanical, Ergonomic or Not Ergonomic, Wireless or Wired..
07:28 ashimema     and that before talking about all the crazy key layouts you can go for if so inclined.
07:28 ashimema     ack.
07:29 * ashimema   gives up and sticks with his logitech.. hopefully it'll last a bit longer yet
07:31 Joubu        good morning #koha
07:32 ashimema     morning Joubu
08:21 indradg      morning Joubu
09:28 indradg      BUG 12780
09:28 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12780 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, NEW , Addition of plugins-menu.inc for handling a nav menu for Koha Plugins
09:30 rangi        remember to set it to needs signoff, when you have patches attached ready to test
09:30 indradg      thanks rangi
09:31 indradg      done!
09:50 ashimema     oh.. rangi is here again
09:51 ashimema     indradg.. interestingly enough i looked at that bug this morning beofre the aptches were added ;)
09:53 ashimema     rangi.. have you looked at the TestBuilder bug.. wondered if you have any comments.. I'm a bit baffled as to the point if i'm completely honest.
09:54 ashimema     bug 12603
09:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests
09:55 Joubu        ashimema: Hi! Why are you baffled?
09:56 ashimema     Maybe i'm only looking at the most basic use cases.. but so far I'm sort of inclined to agree with mtompset that the abstraction actually makes the tests slightly more complicated to write?
09:58 ashimema     what does it do beyond wrapping sql in a transaction so it can be rolled back?
09:58 Joubu        ashimema: hum, try to write UT for Acquisition :)
09:58 Joubu        and you will understand why this is useful
09:59 Joubu        ashimema: sorry, I didn't understand your last question
09:59 ashimema     give me a tic.. re-reading code again
10:07 ashimema     hmm.. it basically sets up dependencies for you right?
10:07 Joubu        that's it
10:07 ashimema     so rather than needing to import half of koha's modules.. you just import builder
10:07 Joubu        DB dependencies, not modules (pm)
10:08 ashimema     then use builder to define the db changes you need for the test
10:08 ashimema     looking at bug 12607, it makes it look like it also does the module imports for you
10:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Refactoring Acquisition/GetBasketsInfosByBookseller.t
10:09 ashimema     i.e a whole host os 'use' dissapear in the patch..
10:09 ashimema     is that just un related tify up then?
10:09 Joubu        ashimema: no, the script does not use routines from Biblio, bookseller, etc. anymore
10:09 ashimema     k.. so it's unrelated tify up
10:10 Joubu        before TestBulder, the UT script has to add a bookseller in DB (so call C4::Bookseller::AddBookseller), add a budget, a biblio, etc. to create an order
10:10 Joubu        now, the script all my $order =  TestBuilder->({src => 'order'});
10:10 Joubu        and that's all!
10:10 Joubu        (don't remember the syntax exactly)
10:11 Joubu        the builder generate the data (bookseller, biblio, budget, etc.) in DB
10:11 Joubu        with random data (because we don't care about the bookseller name, etc. for unit tests)
10:11 ashimema     I see..
10:12 Joubu        but you can access to the generated data:
10:12 Joubu        +my $supplierid    = $order1->{_fk}->{basketno}->{booksellerid};
10:13 Joubu        it is certainly not perfect, and some cases will cause problems (I suppose, I don't know). Because the DB structure is quite weird sometimes
10:13 ashimema     my thoughts are mosty that upon adding/editing a module you're learning the internal api's of koha.. and so writing tests with them are surely relatively easy.. whereas with TestBuilder.. you have to learn a new api to be able to write a test using it.?
10:14 Joubu        the API is quite simple
10:14 ashimema     I suppose i'm just a bit vague as to what real advantage.. other than saving a few lines.. it brings to the table for test writers...
10:14 ashimema     I suppose if your starting by writing tests instead of the other way around it makes pretty good sense
10:14 Joubu        and yes, like all new module, there are methods to call and to know how to call them :)
10:15 ashimema     ok.. I'll have a punt at QAing it..
10:15 ashimema     just wanted to get comments really..
10:15 Joubu        yep, me too :)
10:15 ashimema     did you/yohan see my comment on the bug inquiring as to whether we could use it as a route to makeing more tests db independant?
10:16 Joubu        It's not possible to use the TestBuilder for independent UT
10:17 Joubu        That was your question?
10:18 ashimema     not in it's current form..
10:18 ashimema     my question was.. can you see a followup being able to accomplish some db independance?
10:19 Joubu        ashimema: Actually, I wanted something like you described (if I understand correctly), but it looked quite difficult
10:19 ashimema     basically.. I'd like to see allot more mocked so that we don't have to have a configure db to run the tests..
10:19 ashimema     for instance.. the package builder will not run db dependant tests..
10:19 Joubu        And the TestBuilder was an idea from yohann. Since I didn't want to impose him something, I let him do what he wanted to do
10:20 ashimema     cool.. I see.
10:21 ashimema     right.. got a customer call to get to.
10:21 ashimema     will take another look at this when i get back..
10:21 Joubu        ashimema: I don't think it could be extended to independent tests. The main goal is to create the foreign keys (recursively) for a DB row, basically.
10:26 ashimema     that's a shame..
10:27 ashimema     I was hoping it could be expanded to instead mock such data/connections.
10:27 ashimema     I'd prefer to see such an abstraction go the route of making one test work both with or without a database..
10:28 ashimema     that way tests could be run more often and more thoroughly.
10:28 ashimema     anywho..
10:28 ashimema     in a call now.
11:37 tcohen       morning
11:39 tcohen       @wunder cordoba, argentina
11:39 huginn       tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 14.9°C (8:35 AM ART on August 19, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
12:09 barton       morning, #koha!
12:12 barton       I have a question about Home > Tools > Patron lists -- Are these viewable to all staff members, or just to the person who creates the list?
12:13 barton       ... and is there any way to control how these are shared?
12:15 nengard      barton just the person who creates the list and not really from the patron side
12:15 barton       nengard++
12:16 barton       @karma
12:16 huginn       barton: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (132), "cait" (118), and "oleonard" (79).  Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5).  You (barton) are ranked 41 out of 265.
12:16 barton       @karma barton
12:16 huginn       barton: Karma for "barton" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4.
12:17 barton       huh. wonder how that happened.
12:17 barton       @karma nengard
12:17 huginn       barton: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7.
12:22 tcohen       morning!
12:22 wahanui      it has been said that morning is a state of the cait
12:31 ashimema     afternoon!
12:32 ashimema     @karma
12:32 huginn       ashimema: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (132), "cait" (118), and "oleonard" (79).  Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5).  You (ashimema) are ranked 6 out of 265.
12:32 tcohen       hi ashimema
12:32 tcohen       @karma
12:32 huginn       tcohen: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (132), "cait" (118), and "oleonard" (79).  Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5).  You (tcohen) are ranked 5 out of 265.
12:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #548 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
12:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #548: SUCCESS in 3 min 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/548/
12:33 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
12:38 ashimema     how goes it tcohen..
12:39 tcohen       fine ashimema
12:40 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12708 - Unexpected behaviour in IE 9 and lower when using openWindow <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f8c59edaa9c790f36fe99552e818cfe8d8f9c8f> / Bug 9180: All branches should be returned if a default rule exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4daaf8067811ac60b4bca891a5379315b5167127> / Bug 12180 - Remove HTML from batchMod.pl <http://git.koha-community.o
12:47 tcohen       @later tell gmcharlt can u take a look at bug 12781 please?
12:47 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:47 tcohen       khall: around?
12:47 khall        yo
12:47 tcohen       I added you to bug 12781 cc, could you please take a look too?
12:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12781 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , DBIx::Class schema should preserve case for column names
12:48 tcohen       i'm not sure it is a problem introduced by later DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader
12:48 tcohen       or just something we did wrong in the first place
12:49 tcohen       but it seems to be breaking in several places
12:49 khall        I'll take a look!
12:50 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11614: Untranslatable label_element_title in label management <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fc9a5fadf0b8287f75538024ce363d03e08f407> / Bug 12695: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from marc21_linking_section.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec2921b83b965420d021736ec1e6dc87436a2d22> / Bug 7143 Updating the about page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
12:55 tcohen       khall: thanks!
13:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #129: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/129/
13:30 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12753: Warnings in t/SIP_Sip.t could be tested
13:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 12501: Show dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT results
13:30 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12177 - Remove HTML from authorities.pl
13:30 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12180 - Remove HTML from batchMod.pl
13:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9180: All branches should be returned if a default rule exists
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12753 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Warnings in t/SIP_Sip.t could be tested
13:30 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 12708 - Unexpected behaviour in IE 9 and lower when using openWindow
13:30 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 Updating history
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12501 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT results
13:30 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 Updating the about page
13:30 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12695: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from marc21_linking_section.pl
13:30 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11614: Untranslatable label_element_title in label management
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12177 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove HTML from authorities.pl
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12180 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove HTML from batchMod.pl
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9180 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Default rules are not always used for overdues
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12708 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Unexpected behaviour in IE 9 and lower when using openWindow
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12695 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from marc21_linking_section.pl
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11614 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable label_element_title in label management
13:43 Joubu        Hum, on the catalogue result page (intranet), I got "No item was selected" when I try to add some records to the cart. Could someone confirm there is a bug?
13:43 Joubu        (of course, I selected items...)
13:44 Joubu        Actually the checkbox does not contain the biblionumber...
14:07 Joubu        it's really not a good idea to map biblio.biblionumber with something else before going go away for 3 weeks...
14:19 ashimema     good luck Joubu
14:24 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:24 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #130: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/130/
14:42 tcohen       hi Joubu
14:42 tcohen       is it a problem on your local branch or on master?
14:43 Joubu        tcohen: no, just in my head...
14:43 tcohen       heh
14:44 Joubu        I changed the mapping of biblio.biblionumber 3 weeks ago, and of course, I forgot to restore the good value
14:44 Joubu        (don't ask me why...)
15:06 smrt         hi everyone, I might be  completely overlooking something but is there a way to prevent patrons from placing holds through the OPAC if they have overdue items?
15:30 reiveune     bye
15:36 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
15:36 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #135: FIXED in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/135/
15:48 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12432 [QA Followup] - Make "All" tab work when switching back to it <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c1c426986e8016ae09e14091c34123b75e1ad9f> / Bug 12432 - Saved reports tabs not working <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76b577e0ab3ad26aaf33ca76a445c726137710a8>
15:56 tcohen       is there a free QA Cslot?
15:56 tcohen       bug 12782
15:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too
15:58 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11842 - fix framework caching with memcache/plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71ba269136c61e57e8388f91f2562d062004d7fd> / Bug 12589 - Manage label batch view should show item type description instead of... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4107444c03ba54078cf6b167b70cfff31d13b0f0> / Bug 12694: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from unimarc_field_4XX.pl <http:/
16:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
16:50 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #67: FIXED in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/67/
16:50 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12432 - Saved reports tabs not working
16:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12432 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Saved reports tabs not working
16:50 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12432 [QA Followup] - Make "All" tab work when switching back to it
16:59 RubEns       Hi, any idea to save the search results in koha and create report, need to know the most viewed items or searches made​​.
17:03 RubEns       Hi, any idea to save the search results in koha and create report, need to know the most viewed items or searches made​​.
17:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #132: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/132/
17:10 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12432 - Saved reports tabs not working
17:10 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12432 [QA Followup] - Make "All" tab work when switching back to it
17:10 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12704: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from unimarc_field_225a.pl
17:10 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12694: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from unimarc_field_4XX.pl
17:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12432 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Saved reports tabs not working
17:10 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12589 - Manage label batch view should show item type description instead of code
17:10 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 11842 - fix framework caching with memcache/plack
17:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12704 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from unimarc_field_225a.pl
17:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12694 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from unimarc_field_4XX.pl
17:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12589 normal, P5 - low, ---, robert.higgins, Pushed to Master , Manage label batch view should show item type description instead of code
17:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11842 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC framework editing is broken when memcache is enabled
17:30 bag          hey jmsasse
17:30 jmsasse      Bag: hiya.
17:30 bag          I should be able to have a call tomorrow
17:30 bag          what time where you thinking?  you can talk in your local time - I'll adjust
17:31 jmsasse      My director is in office tomorrow.
17:32 jmsasse      11:30 AM?
17:33 bag          hmm...  ok I'll put it on the calendar
17:33 bag          can you email me a phone number to use?
17:33 jmsasse      Permissions development was the topic?
17:34 jmsasse      email to brendan@bywatersolutions.com?
17:34 bag          it was more a general what's important for you - khall already understand the permissions development topic
17:34 bag          that works jmsasse
17:34 jmsasse      OK, my director will have some input on that for you.
17:34 bag          cool :)
17:35 jmsasse      Sorry I stumbled into the wrong channel.
17:36 bag          no worries :)
17:36 bag          jmsasse++
17:36 jmsasse      Forgot it was #bws-partners.
17:36 jmsasse      khall active?
17:39 jmsasse      Khall: great job on covers that flow :-)
17:39 jmsasse      Khall: been looking for something like that for a while.
18:15 tcohen       hi bag
18:16 bag          hey tcohen
18:17 tcohen       joy, nicole and you?
18:24 tcohen       @later tell wizzyrea please take a look at a filesystem permission error when trying to export/download the registration data (on cform)
18:24 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:41 tcohen       ashimema: do u know why we use patron_id instead of patronId on ILS-ID?
18:42 * tcohen     is reading the specification and maybe not understanding something
19:06 tcohen       bye #koha
19:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #549 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #549: SUCCESS in 2 min 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/549/
19:32 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: retitle for 3.18
19:43 rangi        ashimema: fwiw i dont really get it either, hence my no comment
19:46 rangi        hi tcohen
19:47 tcohen       hi rangi
19:47 tcohen       rangi: you're familiar with ILS-ID, right?
19:48 rangi        not really, it was a standard that failed, not many things use it in the wild unfortunately
19:49 tcohen       oh, I see
19:50 tcohen       i was looking at a passedqa bug, and noticed there's somediscrepancy on how stuff is named
19:51 tcohen       (between the 1.1 version that is online, and Koha's code)
19:51 rangi        http://www.diglib.org/community/groups/ils-di/ basically it morphed into XC
19:51 rangi        yeah, there was never a ratified standard
19:52 rangi        so compliance isnt really a thing
19:55 rangi        tcohen: it might be worth emailing to ask who is using the ils-di api
19:56 tcohen_      are we part of the specification writing board?
19:56 rangi        and wether renaming things would break stuff for them
19:56 tcohen_      rangi: so ILS-DI -> NCIP 2.0?
19:56 tcohen_      (i mean, Koha)
19:56 rangi        tcohen_: there is no ILS-DI anymore
19:56 rangi        there never was
19:56 rangi        there was a recommendation
19:56 rangi        no one (apart from us and a couple of others) ever implemented it
19:57 rangi        07:55 <@rangi> tcohen: it might be worth emailing to ask who is using the ils-di api
19:57 rangi        07:56 <@rangi> and wether renaming things would break stuff for them
19:57 rangi        http://www.diglib.org/community/groups/ils-di/
19:57 tcohen_      rangi: sorry, networking issues
19:57 rangi        no worries
19:57 tcohen_      the old tcp connexion took over my nickname
19:58 tcohen_      so, you're familiar with ILS-DI :-P
19:58 tcohen_      i mean, NCIP
19:58 gmcharlt     well, the BibLibre Drupal stuff still uses the ILS-DI API, right?
19:58 rangi        afaik yes, and i think EDS do too
19:59 rangi        so changing the names might break stuff for them
19:59 rangi        what i was trying to say, is there isnt actually a standard to comply to, so not breaking for existing users is probably better
19:59 rangi        but i probably wasnt being clear
19:59 tcohen_      it is clear rangi
19:59 tcohen_      bug 8868
20:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8868 normal, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id
20:00 tcohen_      is changing the API
20:00 rangi        ah yep, afaik only the biblibre drupal connector uses that functionality
20:00 rangi        so that might be ok, but it might be worth asking on the list?
20:01 * tcohen     thinks the drupal connector has its own api implementation (koha-restfull)
20:01 gmcharlt     tcohen: they may have changed at some point?
20:01 gmcharlt     but rangi's right, can ask
20:02 * tcohen     is not sure, he just thought they wrote it for that purpose
20:02 rangi        could well b
20:02 rangi        e
20:02 tcohen       PTFS-Europe also uses ILS-DI for his VuFind KohaRest driver
20:03 rangi        im guessing since they are changing it, biblibre must be using it for something still
20:03 tcohen       np, will ask on the dev list
20:03 rangi        sweet
20:04 rangi        im trying to track down this 400 thing
20:04 rangi        that seems to have got everyone excited
20:04 rangi        man i wish libraries would get this excited about other stuff
20:04 rangi        maybe we should purposefully breakt things once in a while to keep them engaged
20:04 tcohen       what is that 400 thing?
20:04 pianohacker  so the facebook approach?
20:05 tcohen       pianohacker: heh
20:05 tcohen       rangi: facets?
20:05 wahanui      facets are drawn from the records in the search results and are being worked on in bug 11232:  http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232
20:05 pianohacker  just in time, cait
20:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Retrieve facets from Zebra
20:05 huginn       04Bug 11232: new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Retrieve facets from Zebra
20:05 cait         hm?
20:05 rangi        tcohen: yep
20:05 pianohacker  you're in big trouble, cait...
20:05 tcohen       yeah, is dcook's fault
20:05 cait         am i?
20:05 rangi        http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-August/040519.html
20:05 cait         why this time?
20:05 rangi        that thread
20:05 tcohen       he promised to patch C4::Search to retrieve facets from Zebra
20:06 tcohen       :-P
20:06 cait         ??
20:06 rangi        im just trying to figure out what added the 400s
20:06 cait         a prf
20:06 cait         a pref
20:06 rangi        there is a pref?
20:07 cait         there is a system preference that will allow you to search for 400 from auth in your bibliograhic search
20:07 rangi        and it went in on?
20:07 cait         nope
20:07 cait         not to my knowledge
20:07 cait         maybe for new, but not on existing
20:07 cait         it's off in ours
20:07 rangi        then how are people who upgraded seeing 400
20:07 rangi        in the facets
20:07 rangi        can you remember the bug?
20:08 cait         let me find the pref, then take a shower ok? i just got in from aloooong day of walking and seeing lots of animals .)
20:08 rangi        k
20:08 rangi        im reading the code, i dont see a pref being used in building the facets, but i hope im wrong
20:08 cait         not in the facets
20:08 rangi        oh
20:09 rangi        well its the facets that we are talking about
20:09 cait         it includes the forms in the bilbiographic record
20:09 cait         and probably they get indexed
20:09 cait         and then included in the numbers, is my guess
20:09 rangi        right so the index must have been added
20:09 cait         but i haven't read all of it the emails yet
20:09 cait         yeha, it's the point of the feature
20:09 pianohacker  we're not doing a grs1 deprecation until 3.18 at the earliest, right? so that's not related?
20:09 cait         it's for people who want to find the sheet music from tschaikovsky, no matter how it's spelled
20:09 rangi        http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-August/040511.html
20:10 rangi        yeah that makes sense
20:10 cait         the pref is IncludeSeeFromInSearches
20:10 rangi        but its specifically to do with facets
20:10 cait         it adds the 400 from the authorities to zebra
20:10 cait         it uses an indicator z
20:10 rangi        right so that will be the issue then
20:10 cait         to differentiate from other fields i think
20:10 rangi        cos those are added
20:10 rangi        whether you want to search them or not
20:11 cait         i can try to read up the thread in a bit, but need to warm up first
20:11 cait         lots of rain here today, i got soaked :)
20:11 rangi        the thread isnt actually useful
20:11 rangi        just that one email
20:11 rangi        the thread is just a lot of 'me too'
20:12 cait         i have 24 emails in my inbox from today - no idea what's there yet, but need to change out of wet clothes now :)
20:12 * tcohen_    doesn't see why indexes are related to facets
20:13 rangi        the change is
20:13 rangi        my $marc_record = new_record_from_zebra (
20:14 rangi        but i dont think that did it either
20:16 pastebot     "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "the facet changes" (54 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/161
20:16 rangi        its something in there, thats my suspicion
20:17 cait         hm the z seem to be excluded
20:17 cait         516
20:17 cait         i really have to read the thread in a moment i think
20:17 cait         could it be that a name is doubled?
20:17 rangi        you really dont :)
20:17 cait         like ti appears in 100
20:17 cait         so it would show up in facets
20:17 cait         but when you click on it
20:18 cait         the search goeson the aut index
20:18 rangi        you only have to read the one email, the rest is blah blah i dont like it
20:18 rangi        but no more info
20:18 cait         and that also includes the 400
20:18 cait         so you get more results that it would show in the count
20:18 rangi        its not the name is double
20:18 rangi        its that 100s and 400s are now showing in the author facets
20:18 rangi        they dont want to see 400s there
20:19 tcohen       facets are read from C4::Koha::getfacets
20:19 rangi        and if you revert that chunk of code
20:19 rangi        i pasted
20:19 rangi        you get the old behaviour
20:19 rangi        http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-August/040511.html
20:20 cait         hm i think the 400 arenot 400 when added to the record
20:20 cait         they might be 1xx with an indicator z then
20:20 rangi        so i wonder if cait is on to somehing with the z
20:20 rangi        yes
20:20 rangi        i think so
20:20 rangi        thats the diff
20:20 cait         becuase 400 is something else on bibliographic level
20:20 rangi        in 3.14.x
20:20 rangi        we drop the z's
20:20 rangi        in 3.16.x we dont
20:21 rangi        at least i think thats what we are doing :)
20:21 cait         drop before display?
20:22 cait         the feature came in 3.12 i think
20:22 cait         with the authority work from jared
20:22 cait         and  i am still in wet clothes... brb
20:22 rangi        i dont think its to do with that feature
20:22 rangi        i can replicate the behaviour in that email
20:22 tcohen       rangi: line 516, right?
20:22 cait         without it being turned on, you dan't have the 400 at all on bibliogrpahic level :)
20:22 rangi        it doesnt matter
20:22 rangi        they still show
20:22 cait         or you shouldn't
20:22 rangi        in the facets
20:23 cait         because that would be a bug
20:23 rangi        you can turn it off
20:23 rangi        they will still show
20:23 cait         authorities and bibiographic data don't get combined ithout
20:23 cait         after reindexing?
20:23 rangi        tcohen: yep
20:23 cait         it works similar like adding the items i think
20:23 cait         gah, brb, really now
20:23 tcohen       we just need to filter z
20:23 rangi        tcohen: i think so yeah
20:24 rangi        i think it accidentally changed when we did bug 11096
20:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra
20:26 * tcohen     doesn't like the idea of having angry people in cordoba to take revenge
20:26 rangi        ill write a mail to the list saying we have tracked it down and it is to do with the z subfields
20:26 rangi        please file a bug and we will fix it
20:26 rangi        somethign like that
20:26 tcohen       awesome
20:29 tcohen       from getfacets
20:29 tcohen       {
20:29 tcohen       idx   => 'au',
20:29 tcohen       label => 'Authors',
20:29 tcohen       tags  => [ qw/ 100a 110a 700a / ],
20:29 tcohen       sep   => ', ',
20:29 tcohen       },
20:29 rangi        *nod*
20:31 tcohen       maybe it is a bug in MARC::Record
20:32 tcohen       my $data = $field->as_string( $subfield_letters, $facet->{sep} );
20:32 rangi        could be, but its something that we used to handle in 3.14.x and dont in 3.16.x
20:32 * tcohen     agrees, it is just he can't understand what's going on, yet
20:32 rangi        yeah
20:32 tcohen       steps to reproduce?
20:32 wahanui      steps to reproduce are on comment 1
20:33 tcohen       have a record with 100$z ?
20:33 tcohen       check $z appears in the author's facet?
20:33 rangi        yep
20:33 rangi        basically have 100a
20:34 rangi        linking to an authority that has 400 fields
20:34 rangi        and see if those 400s show up in the facet
20:34 tcohen       ok
20:36 cait         tcohen: indicator z
20:36 cait         but what rangi said
20:37 tcohen       second indicator z in the 100 field of the authority record?
20:38 cait         nope
20:39 cait         you got 100 in bibliographic
20:39 cait         and a normal authority with a main heading and 400
20:39 tcohen       ok, that's correct
20:39 cait         then you have IncludeSeeFromInSearches turned on (i think)
20:39 cait         and reindex
20:39 tcohen       http://snag.gy/Qhux0.jpg
20:39 tcohen       ah
20:40 rangi        yeah thats it
20:40 cait         and it should add the 400 from the authority to your zebra indexed record, as i think 1xx with an indicator z
20:40 rangi        you need that pref on and reindex
20:40 rangi        however if you turn it off
20:40 rangi        and dont do a full reindex
20:40 rangi        they will still stay there
20:40 cait         because the records don't get... recomposed?
20:40 rangi        until you edit them
20:40 tcohen       http://snag.gy/UcwS2.jpg
20:40 tcohen       reproduced
20:40 cait         yep
20:41 rangi        yeah and then git checkout v3.14.09
20:41 rangi        and refresh
20:41 rangi        and its gone
20:41 rangi        without doing any indexing or anything
20:41 tcohen       is the feature present in 3.14?
20:41 tcohen       (includeseefrom...)
20:41 rangi        yep
20:42 tcohen       3.12.0 feature...
20:43 cait         yep
20:43 tcohen       ah
20:44 tcohen       understood
20:44 tcohen       found the code that mangles the records on behalf of rebuild_zebra.pl
20:46 rangi        sent an email
20:52 tcohen       ok, have the fix
20:52 rangi        sweet you can reply to my email :)
20:52 rangi        id really like one of the libraries to file the bug
20:52 rangi        will see if they do
20:55 pastebot     "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this works" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/162
20:56 rangi        looks like a perfectly valid fix
20:56 rangi        however
20:56 rangi        please put a
20:56 rangi        # we need to drop the z so we dont get 400s from authority files in the facets
20:56 rangi        or something like that
20:56 rangi        or someone will remove it again some time in the future :)
20:57 tcohen       don't worry
20:57 tcohen       we will have a regression test for this one
20:57 rangi        yay :)
20:57 tcohen       heh
20:57 rangi        comments are still handy tho
20:57 rangi        if it had been commented in 3.14x
20:57 tcohen       yeah
20:57 rangi        we would have spotted it a ton faster
21:00 * cait       likes comments :)
21:01 rangi        i wonder what i was actually going to do today
21:02 * cait       could make suggestions :)
21:02 rangi        i think it was tidy up and send up my patches for adding multiple covers to the opac, with fallback
21:02 tcohen       :-D
21:03 rangi        http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wr222309
21:03 rangi        that stuff
21:03 wahanui      that stuff is calculated on the fly, but I'm not an expert on that
21:04 * cait       approves :)
21:04 rangi        although that might have to wait until next week
21:04 rangi        pianohacker: question for you
21:05 rangi        in systempreferences can we do multiple dropdowns for a syspref?
21:05 tcohen       rangi: btw, thanks for signing the XISBN.t patches :-D
21:05 rangi        eg, i want to say i want to try local, then google, the nznatlib covers
21:05 tcohen       /rangi, yes
21:06 rangi        currentlyt the syspref is Local|Google|NZNatlib
21:06 rangi        which works great, but is pretty stink UX :)
21:06 rangi        oh cool
21:07 tcohen       BakerTaylorUsername
21:07 tcohen       BakerTaylorPassword
21:07 rangi        thanks tcohen
21:08 rangi        rocio_lunch: whats for lunch?
21:08 rocio_lunch  soup!
21:08 rocio_lunch  lol
21:08 rangi        nice :)
21:08 rocio_lunch  :)
21:08 rangi        http://www.burgerwelly.com/#/?quarter=lambton  <--- somethign from here will be mine
21:08 rangi        (in 3 hours or so)
21:09 tcohen       heh
21:09 rangi        tcohen: ahhh those are 2 different prefs tho
21:09 tcohen       ah, yes
21:09 rangi        - pref: BakerTaylorUsername - pref: BakerTaylorPassword
21:10 tcohen       but shown on the same place
21:10 rangi        yep
21:10 rangi        ill keep thinking
21:10 rangi        i dont really want to have to make 8 sysprefs
21:10 rangi        and then you chose the 1, 2, 3, 4 etc
21:10 tcohen       heh
21:11 rangi        for the order you want them to fallback in
21:11 * tcohen     belives rangi will use YAML at some point
21:11 cait         rangi: there is a patch from jonathan about the multiple drop down i think - want me to find it?
21:11 rangi        yes please
21:12 cait         bug 9043  i think
21:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9043 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Adding system preferences to control the visibility of the content on the Advanced Search page
21:13 cait         he just redid it bcaues there was a roblem with the first javascript library used
21:13 cait         haven't taken a look at the new patch yet (it's from today)
21:13 rangi        sweet ill take a look, thanks
21:14 cait         nto sure if it's what you need, but hsould be quick to check
21:19 cait         @later tell francharb i'd really like to take a look at your overdues spec,but I am on vacation until end of this week
21:19 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
21:21 pianohacker  rangi: like a <select multiple>?
21:22 rangi        kinda, except it has to be ordered
21:22 rangi        the order matters
21:23 rangi        i dunno how you would do that with a select multiple
21:23 cait         hm maybe need another option then
21:23 rangi        ideally you have one dropdown with 8 options you select one, then you get another dropdown with 7 options now
21:23 cait         hm maybe something like jared did for the opac plugins?
21:24 cait         you can drag and drop them
21:24 rangi        but no idea htfu to do that
21:24 cait         and they are stored in a pref i think
21:24 pianohacker  yeah what she said
21:24 rangi        oh yeah that would work too
21:24 rangi        yay
21:24 pianohacker  worse case it's really pretty easy to add a new preference type
21:24 pianohacker  assuming that the code is roughly as sane as I remember
21:25 rangi        sweet
21:25 rangi        thanks, basically thats the last bit i have to do before this Koha::CoverImages and Koha::CoverImages::Local etc are ready to submit
21:25 francharb    It would be awesome cait. Enjoy your vacation and we will talk about the rfc after! Thanks!
21:26 cait         francharb: i also left a question on one the bug reports i think
21:26 francharb    ok, i will take a look tomorrow!!
21:26 cait         cool :)
21:26 francharb    :)
21:27 pianohacker  :D!
21:28 pianohacker  cait: what's the thing you were talking about with the opac plugins? I'd like to take a look
21:28 cait         oh
21:28 cait         it's outside the systme preference editor
21:28 cait         go to administration
21:28 cait         then it has it's own page
21:29 cait         but i think it is saved as some kind of data structure into a pref
21:29 cait         administration > did you mean
21:29 pianohacker  ohh, smooth!
21:30 cait         you can pick them and reorder
21:30 cait         also activate some and not others - not sure how this oculd be integrated into the editor, but it would be cool :)
21:31 pianohacker  it could just be another preference type; there's already all the custom stuff for language settings
21:31 rangi        i could totally put it outside system preferences
21:31 rangi        under tools
21:32 rangi        Cover Images
21:32 wahanui      Cover Images are the only thing not broken, and it's starting to look like they're breaking now too
21:32 rangi        there is no reason it has to be under sysprefs really
21:32 rangi        ill have a think about that too
21:32 pianohacker  only thing putting it under sysprefs gives you is some level of organization and searchability. Not like there's really a strong convention either way, though.
21:35 rangi        yeah
21:36 pianohacker  I should work on that cronjob unification idea I had...
21:36 cait         pianohacker: rancor patches first! :P
21:37 rangi        heh
21:37 pianohacker  rangi, tcohen: question for you guys. Part of the work I did for my school/Koha project was refactoring the C4::Service API into an object-oriented Koha::Service API, and porting all the existing services to it. What would be involved with integrating that, in your minds? Especially as goes unit tests?
21:39 pianohacker  cait: Waiting to hear back on a big set of changes from our client, we're getting close to a big milestone, I promise :) If you're interested, my github branch, https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/rancor-submit, is up to date
21:39 rangi        first up, im super happy thats been done
21:39 rangi        cool
21:39 cait         pianohacker: i can wait - just really want for it to make it in
21:39 rangi        i have to go be a consultant on continuous integration and stuff for a uni here for the next couple of days, (which i think im doing wrong cos i always end up doing work)
21:39 cait         and time is running rally
21:40 rangi        but will have a chance to look next week
21:40 pianohacker  same here! When's the next feature freeze?
21:40 rangi        i think the way id do it is
21:40 cait         tcohen: did we set the dates yet?
21:40 rangi        submit tests and the module first
21:40 rangi        then patches switching things to using it
21:40 rangi        kinda like the replyto stuff i did i guess
21:41 cait         pianohacker: release is november - about half of the time is gone now i think?
21:41 rangi        tcohen might have a better suggestion
21:42 rangi        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9530
21:42 huginn       04Bug 9530: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Allow separate 'Reply To' and 'From' email address for notices
21:42 pianohacker  I like that. I'll do my best to add lots of unit tests to Koha::Service itself. The tricky part is testing as far as the ported services go, especially since they're all so different
21:42 rangi        bascially the first 2 signed off ones added all the infrastructure
21:42 rangi        then each patch after switched more stuff to use it
21:42 rangi        yeah
21:42 pianohacker  bug 12272
21:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Refactor C4::Service API into Koha::Service class
21:43 rangi        cool
21:43 pianohacker  ah, that makes sense. will need some rebasing, but open source makes you a rebase ninja pretty fast :)
21:45 wizzyrea     rangi regarding your ordered sysprefs, could you do it like the interface in the notice editor?
21:46 rangi        true
21:46 rangi        that could work too
21:53 wnickc       bye #koha!
21:54 tcohen       pianohacker, cait: i haven't set official dates, but october is expected to be feature freeze
21:54 wizzyrea     tcohen: try your download now
21:54 tcohen       and also, I agree with rangi's approach
21:54 tcohen       having the libs included with good tests coverage
21:55 cait         tcohen: ok
21:55 tcohen       and switching each functionality at a time
21:55 tcohen       with the help of us, the testers :-D
21:55 tcohen       wizzyrea: will do
21:55 pianohacker  tcohen: what are your opinions as far as test plans/etc. for the /svc/ stuff, since they're such a mixed bag
21:55 cait         pianohacker: but that doesn't mean submitting the feature by october.. ;)
21:56 pianohacker  cait: oh heavens no. If school doesn't decide to cheerfully murder me right out the gate, I'm hoping to have a new patchset by the end of this month
21:56 tcohen       pianohacker: i think there needs to be consensus on that
21:56 tcohen       but I thought having /api/v1.0/ for a REST API would be a good start
21:56 tcohen       (instead of /svc)
21:56 pianohacker  tcohen: oh right that touches on that long email chain on the list...
21:57 tcohen       yeap
21:57 pianohacker  tcohen: I'll start by just porting the systempreferences API, since that's small and easy to test
21:57 tcohen       i am writing some crud stuff there
21:57 pianohacker  We have two incompatible output formats and authentication schemes (at least) in /svc/, so there's a lot more to standardize
21:58 pianohacker  the current Koha::Service class is focused on preserving the current functionality of both the XML and JSON services
21:58 tcohen       pianohacker: i'd spend time on the api-key authentication mechanism, or even our oauth2 implementation
21:58 tcohen       wizzyrea++ # it worked!
21:58 tcohen       bbl
22:02 pianohacker  @later tell tcohen do we have any patches or existing code using either of those?
22:02 huginn       pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
22:07 pianohacker  hi internet
22:12 eythian      hi
22:12 wahanui      privet, eythian
22:14 pianohacker  yo eythian
22:18 cait1        good night :)
22:19 pianohacker  night cait1
22:36 tcohen       hi