Time Nick Message 23:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #106: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/106/ 23:06 tcohen :-D 23:06 gmcharlt tcohen: out now,but I'll be in channel tomorrow 23:05 tcohen hmm 23:05 huginn tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> indradg: looks fine 23:05 tcohen @seen gmcharlt 23:02 eythian I don't see why not 23:01 tcohen is 'Sponsored-by: The Will to Procrastinate' valid for a patch? 22:48 eythian so misguided 22:47 tcohen and end that erratic behaviour 22:47 tcohen he doesn't know he needs to give me the money 22:47 tcohen poor guy 22:46 eythian > the man, who wants to remain anonymous, 22:46 eythian > He then excitedly told an airport security guard and other passengers getting on his plane about the massive windfall before flying to Auckland to present his ticket. 22:45 tcohen http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11307656 22:45 tcohen ha, i was right 22:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #105: ABORTED in 9 min 32 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/105/ 22:40 tcohen a lot of money 22:40 wahanui 49315.0684931507 22:40 rangi 18000000/365 22:38 rangi use lib '../../'; 22:38 rangi do 22:38 rangi and in xt/author/translatable-templates.t 22:38 rangi tcohen: you could cheat 22:38 tcohen exactly 22:38 rangi bag: thanks 22:37 eythian perl -e 'print "@INC"' would be better I think 22:37 eythian perl -e 'print @INC' ? 22:36 tcohen (-V) 22:36 tcohen like in perl --version 22:36 tcohen is there a way to make perl print @INC? 22:35 wahanui it has been said that eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem. 22:35 bag hey eythian 22:35 tcohen hi eythian 22:35 eythian hi 22:34 bag BTW for git.koha-c everything looks like it's back up to normal and has the new memory footprint - but the console is showing we're still at step 4 of 6 - so it may reboot once more... (I think the console just isn't reporting correctly - so it could be nothing) 22:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #104: ABORTED in 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/104/ 22:30 tcohen jej 22:30 tcohen "Bad gateway" 22:28 rangi see in the configure 22:28 rangi yeah 22:28 tcohen maybe we can set PERL5LIB explicitly on jenkins 22:28 rangi the other thing you could is 22:27 rangi (cos taht doesnt make sense for the it anyway) 22:27 rangi without devel::cover 22:27 rangi maybe try moving it out, into it's own prove call 22:27 rangi it is weird 22:26 * tcohen has no clue 22:25 rangi ah ok 22:24 tcohen it fails in all/U14 22:23 rangi not just one node 22:23 rangi yep, but that should break everywhere 22:23 tcohen jenkins did change, it got updated 22:23 tcohen it is wheeze 22:23 rangi nope 22:23 tcohen we're not in a new perl or smth 22:23 tcohen what's changed? 22:23 tcohen and also, it worked fine 22:22 rangi really weird 22:22 rangi right 22:22 tcohen or JUNIT_OUTPUT_FILE (which i added for the warning) 22:22 tcohen yet TEST_QA is set 22:22 rangi i wonder if the env is getting reset? 22:21 huginn rangi: I suck 22:21 rangi @INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . 22:21 tcohen jenkins is cheating 22:21 rangi ie 22:21 rangi and yet its not in the path later 22:21 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad 22:21 rangi hmmm interesting 22:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #103: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/103/ 22:20 tcohen 22:44:05 + PERL5LIB=/srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D7 22:20 tcohen 22:44:05 + export PERL5LIB=/srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D7 22:20 tcohen but if you read the + lines 22:20 rangi think 22:20 rangi isnt doing what we thing 22:20 tcohen it makes a lot of sense 22:20 rangi export PERL5LIB=$WORKSPACE 22:20 rangi i suspect this 22:20 rangi does that make sense? 22:19 rangi ../ isnt in the path 22:19 rangi its because you are chdir 22:19 rangi . is always in the path 22:19 rangi relative to where it is 22:19 rangi cos thats C4/Charset 22:19 rangi yeah it will 22:19 tcohen if I your, say, prove t/Charset.t it finds C4:::Charset 22:18 rangi the INC path 22:18 rangi yeah its definitely not in the path 22:17 tcohen http://snag.gy/2zejV.jpg 22:17 tcohen the test itself does a chdir 22:17 tcohen just for that test :-D 22:16 rangi so for some reason the export isnt happening? 22:16 tcohen yeah, same result 22:15 rangi it might help you spot any odd thing happening 22:15 rangi its just a bash script 22:14 rangi tcohen: what if you ssh into the box, su to the jenkins user, and run the script in the workspace 22:14 rangi hmmm 22:10 tcohen and the script is supposed to be doing that! 22:10 tcohen if i export PERL5LIB=/srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D7, it works 22:09 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi:" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/158 22:01 tcohen i was able to reproduce the translatable-templates.t error 21:57 tcohen oh 21:56 cait yeah... this guy... 21:56 tcohen i wonder who might have pushed it 21:55 wahanui hmmm... that one is down more often than up 21:55 tcohen that one 21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 21:55 cait bug 12428 21:54 wahanui javascript is not super super evil. 21:54 cait javascript 21:54 cait hm it should be a tooltip 21:54 tcohen the manual says it appears on the 'alt' 21:54 cait hm i think there is a bug report 21:54 tcohen yes 21:53 cait alt? the html block from the branches page? 21:53 rangi anything is possible 21:52 tcohen is it possible that the branch information 'alt' on the OPAC is not working on bootstrap? 21:44 tcohen maybe you miss-behaved in previous lives 21:44 cait nope :) 21:44 tcohen ah, you don't drink beer? 21:43 cait so vacation means i have to get punished for something? 21:43 tcohen go get some beer! 21:43 tcohen cait: aren't you on vacation? 21:42 rangi yep 21:42 tcohen if it reports stuff that doesn't matter, no one cares and we don't use it 21:41 tcohen i'd like jenkins to be a useful tool 21:41 * tcohen doesn't like things he cannot experimentally reproduce 21:40 tcohen yes 21:40 cait ok, we are grumpy with the test then :) 21:39 tcohen heh 21:39 tcohen non-deterministically :-D 21:39 tcohen no, is just that for some strange reason translatable-templates.t fails due to environmental problems 21:37 cait are you grumpy with D7? 21:37 tcohen you have to be kidding 21:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #102: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/102/ 21:29 tcohen maybe we could catch git fetching problems instead of plain tests errors 21:29 tcohen no problem for now 21:29 rangi *nod* 21:29 tcohen we'll have to keep an eye on stuff that fails, and re-arrange 21:28 tcohen it makes sense 21:28 * tcohen hopes more memory makes things easier 21:28 rangi if that makes sense? 21:27 rangi but dont run if build failed totally 21:27 rangi (so if tests failing) 21:27 rangi is run if unstable 21:27 rangi what i will probably swithc it too 21:26 * tcohen will try to make u14 succeed so the rest of the tests run :-P 21:25 rangi not for master anyway 21:25 tcohen and u12 isn't polling git 21:25 rangi ill keep an eye on it tho 21:25 rangi it should sort itself out in the next hour or so i hope 21:25 tcohen no problem then 21:25 rangi when u14 finished, it triggered u12 21:25 tcohen oh 21:25 rangi thats because the old untriggered one was still running when i made the change 21:24 tcohen there are no changes on git, but jenkins is triggering tasks 21:23 rangi yep 21:23 tcohen http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/111/ 21:23 wahanui yep. 21:23 rangi yep? 21:23 tcohen rangi, 21:18 tcohen back 20:50 Brooke o/ 20:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #101: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/101/ 20:38 rangi http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-August/040434.html 20:37 rangi http://koha-na.org/index.php/Main_Page 20:37 rangi yay! 20:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #106: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/106/ 20:36 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 20:36 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 20:26 tcohen i want to configure it another way, but didn't have the time to dig a bit more on that 20:21 tcohen there is one task for each node currently 20:21 rangi thats what it does now isnt it? 20:20 tcohen the best would be to have Koha_Master (for example) to run in 4 nodes, and have a report fr each one 20:19 rangi ie they wont get 4 emails that the same test failed 20:19 tcohen heh 20:19 rangi i think the upside of this will be less mail, so people might pay more attention to it :) 20:19 rangi cool 20:18 tcohen lets see how it behaves for a while 20:18 tcohen they don't have much work currently :-P 20:17 rangi do you want me to make the rmaint ones cascade too? 20:17 tcohen because i refactored the script a bit 20:17 rangi just master 20:17 rangi i havent touched the rmaint ones 20:17 tcohen i'm sending an email about that to rmaints 20:17 rangi we arent swapping yet :) 20:17 rangi bag: looks good s far 20:16 rangi cool 20:16 rangi in general 20:16 tcohen i know have enough room for the 4 git copies 20:16 rangi which should be more efficient 20:16 rangi now it works its way through it, so it doesnt build things we know will fail :) 20:16 tcohen because it was deleting my symlink and trying to fetch the whole git repo again 20:15 rangi *nod* 20:15 tcohen it was exploding because the nodes ran out of space 20:15 rangi it wont try u12 for master 20:15 rangi also now, if u14 explodes 20:15 rangi ta bag 20:15 tcohen ok 20:15 rangi also now 20:15 bag give that a shot and it it still doesn't work then I can go to 2gb (maybe) 20:15 rangi like repo.or.cz, and the github mirror and random people around the world etc 20:14 cait :) 20:14 rangi and there are multiple other things 20:14 bag rangi it should be up to 1000 now 20:14 rangi and the git repo is big 20:14 tcohen oh 20:14 rangi and the git server has 500MB of RAM 20:14 rangi htere were 6 20:14 tcohen i know they are 4 tasks at a time, but, just 4! 20:13 tcohen ? 20:13 tcohen how can jenkins kill git 20:13 tcohen rangi 20:13 cait rangi++ 20:13 rangi there now for master it should go u14, u12, d7, d6 20:10 rangi bag: awesome about the ram 20:10 rangi im gonna make these jobs run after each other instead of all at once 20:10 rangi hmm jenkins is killing the git server 19:50 cait depends on the it person i guess :) 19:49 martian523 i assume IT would know all these terms? 19:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #14: ABORTED in 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/14/ 19:48 cait trying to see where the javascript goes wrong 19:48 cait i i'd start directly on the page - with firebug or similar 19:48 martian523 but maybe super? =) 19:48 wahanui rumour has it javascript is not super super evil 19:48 martian523 javascript? 19:48 martian523 where should i have IT check? 19:48 cait maybe a difference in the data 19:47 cait we have libraries using acq in 3.12.9 - i never got a report about something like this 19:47 martian523 i thought upgrading to 3.14 would solve it, but still exist 19:47 cait something like that 19:47 cait or the calculation gets out of th range of numbers jaascript can work with... I think 19:47 martian523 yes, that worked before 19:46 cait somewhere, something non numerical is slipping in 19:46 cait the other fields are filled by javascript 19:46 cait when you enter the list price 19:46 martian523 but it has to be something from 3.10 to 3.12 19:46 martian523 yes, very puzzling. 19:46 cait hm puzzling 19:45 martian523 i don't think i did 19:45 cait I think it's a problem in the javascript 19:44 cait did you change something about the exchange rates by chance? 19:43 cait it might be that it#s something with the currency there 19:43 cait hm 19:36 martian523 somebody has a similar issue, but i don't know if the symbol is the problem. http://www.marshut.net/zvhsh/acquisition-ordering-error.html 19:32 martian523 no difference 19:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #14 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) 19:29 cait not sure, just trying to figure out where the problem might be 19:28 martian523 ok, i'll try it 19:28 martian523 but if it wasn't a problem before, why would it be a problem now? 19:28 cait jus tto see if it makes a difference 19:27 cait could you try emptying out your gist and try with just 10 percent? 0.10 19:27 martian523 tax rate in california 19:27 cait areyou sure those are right? 19:27 cait martian523: your percentages are a bit small 19:24 oleonard Time for me to leave. Good luck martian523 19:23 martian523 even though i can input numbers manually, but it's still kinda driving me crazy 19:23 martian523 they are numeric 19:21 oleonard martian523: The only way I can reproduce what appears in your screenshot is if I manually enter a value in "Vendor price" which is non-numeric. It doesn't look like you have non-numeric data in "vendor price," although it's hard to tell for sure from your screenshot 19:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #100: NOW UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/100/ 19:19 oleonard It doesn't appear to be wrong 19:16 martian523 should i make some corrections? is there something not right? 19:15 martian523 i have the following : 0|0.0725|0.0825|0.08625|0.0925|0.0950|0.0875|0.0850 19:14 oleonard Administration -> System preferences 19:14 oleonard A system preference called "gist" 19:13 martian523 what's gist system preference? 19:13 oleonard did you check the value you have in the gist system preference? What is it? 19:11 martian523 but don't know what 19:11 martian523 so something from 3.10 to 3.12 must have changed 19:10 martian523 it started with 3.12 19:10 martian523 but when it went live, problem exist 19:10 martian523 when i tested the upgrade on test server, everything's ok 19:09 martian523 i don't know what's going on 19:09 oleonard If you're using Chrome I would assume the browser isn't the issue. 19:09 oleonard It shouldn't 19:09 martian523 does that make a difference? 19:09 martian523 chrome 19:04 oleonard What browser martian523? 19:02 oleonard Not in my test 18:58 martian523 does going over budget cause problems? 18:57 oleonard Sorry martian523 I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe confirm that values in the gist system preference are strictly numeric? 18:49 martian523 3.14.9 18:47 oleonard What Koha version martian523 ? 18:42 martian523 i'm sure there's something that can fix this, but i don't know how 18:42 martian523 NaN issue, jpg link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek9xxxg5t4k9b5r/koha%20NaN.JPG 18:37 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix syntax errors in cms section 18:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #79: FIXED in 9.7 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/79/ 18:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 18:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 18:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #79 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #77 1 day 1 hr ago) 18:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #13: STILL FAILING in 3.1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/13/ 18:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U14 build #6: FAILURE in 3.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_U14/6/ 18:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x_U14 build #31: FAILURE in 8 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x_U14/31/ 18:32 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix syntax errors in cms section 18:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #547: FIXED in 2 min 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/547/ 18:32 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 18:32 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 18:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #547 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #545 1 day 1 hr ago) 18:29 bag tcohen: I think git is back up with more RAM now - can you check to see if you are able to work with it? 18:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_D6 build #12: FAILURE in 4.9 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_D6/12/ 18:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #12: STILL FAILING in 39 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/12/ 18:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U12 build #14: FAILURE in 26 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U12/14/ 18:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #99: STILL FAILING in 21 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/99/ 18:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage 18:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage. 18:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage 18:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #546: FAILURE in 3 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/546/ 18:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #546 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:16 tcohen the sysops guys have just given jenkins nodes 20GB extra space! 18:07 tcohen nengard++ 18:07 nengard okey dokey 18:07 tcohen so he does his trick :-D 18:06 tcohen once you branch it I'll mention that to him 18:06 tcohen i think you're correct, bgkriegel expects 3.16 to be branched 18:06 nengard I wait until I get the manual as close to done as I possibly can - not sure there are any features I missed in 3.16 so we're ready for that switch 18:05 nengard I'll make it so that 3.18 = master and 3.16 is it's own branch this week 18:05 nengard oh so you don't translate on master? I see - 3.16 = master right now 18:04 cait i think it might be 18:04 tcohen i'm not sure what needs to be done to have it ready for translation, maybe is something bgkriegel needs to do? 18:04 tcohen I was looking at http://es.koha-community.org/manual for start translating 3.16 manual into spanish 18:03 nengard http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/ 18:02 nengard I'm going to do the 3.18 manual this week 18:02 nengard there's not a 3.18 manual 18:02 nengard Wait - there is a 3.16 manual already 18:02 tcohen (we are going live with 3.16 by 3.16.3 date) 18:02 tcohen awesome, we have really impatient people here :-D 18:01 nengard yes was thinking I'd do that this week actually 18:01 tcohen nengard_lunch: will you branch the manual for 3.16 soon? 17:52 huginn druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. 17:52 druthb @karma druthb 17:52 huginn druthb: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (131), "cait" (109), and "oleonard" (79). Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5). You (druthb) are ranked 27 out of 260. 17:52 druthb @karma 17:52 * oleonard lights his torch and grabs a pitchfork, off to find the decreaser 17:51 huginn bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 20 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 19. 17:51 bag @karma bag 17:51 huginn bag: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (131), "cait" (109), and "oleonard" (79). Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5). You (bag) are ranked 17 out of 260. 17:51 bag @karma 17:51 bag :) 17:51 huginn bag: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. 17:51 bag @karma bywater 17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage 17:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage. 17:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage 17:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #78: FAILURE in 1 min 1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/78/ 17:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #78 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:43 tcohen bywater++ 17:42 cait brb 17:42 cait bywater++ 17:42 bag ok tcohen it should be down for a little bit - we are resizing it 17:40 bag I don't think it's responding 17:40 bag yeah could be something like that 17:39 tcohen there hasn't been a change in how we use it, I think, maybe its under attack? 17:39 bag right now it's in the queue to be upgraded on RAM 17:39 bag give me a few to see if I see anything 17:38 bag yeah I think it's getting overwhelmed 17:38 tcohen there seems to be a problem with git 17:38 cait hi bag 17:38 bag hey tcohen 17:38 tcohen hi bag 17:38 bag tcohen: 17:37 cait and you need to use decimal points 17:37 martian523 but there wasn't a problem before upgrading 17:37 tcohen #bywater! 17:37 cait s 17:37 cait that would be my gues 17:36 cait it could also be a typo in your tax values (gist system preference) 17:36 cait on the order page... that can be in different places 17:36 cait my guess is: you have a non numeric value in one of the fields that should be numeric 17:36 cait paste can only work with text 17:36 cait you'd have to upload it somewhere 17:35 martian523 sorry, where should i paste the screen shot? 17:34 martian523 ok. 17:34 cait could you share a screenshot of the page? 17:33 cait where do you add the title? 17:32 martian523 it loads NaN after I added a title 17:31 cait does the page load with NaN or is it like that after you enter a first value? 17:31 cait what did yo uenter as list price? 17:31 cait hm ok 17:31 martian523 all shows NaN 17:31 martian523 Replacement cost: (adjusted for USD) Budgeted cost: Total: (budgeted cost * quantity) 17:30 martian523 but after i add book, and goes down to accounting 17:30 martian523 it's fine before i add book 17:29 cait martian523: hm that means not a number - where exactly does it show up? 17:28 bag we're going to jump it up in ram as soon as larryb finishes what he's working on 17:28 martian523 hi, someone may have asked this issue before, but i couldn't seem to solve it. "NaN" shows up when I'm doing my acquistions 17:28 tcohen maintained by bywater? 17:28 bag yeah I think it's just overwhelmed on ram 17:27 cait tcohen: a bywater server i think 17:27 tcohen who maintains git? 17:27 tcohen rangi mentioned earlier 17:23 tcohen something is wrong with Git 17:22 nengard what do i do if i was pushing to git and it seems to have frozen? just wait it out? 17:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #11: FAILURE in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/11/ 16:55 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 16:55 bag @later tell rangi - yeah sure thing we can up the server ram 16:53 bag hello 16:25 ashimema I'm currently trying to compare it with catalyst.. having not played with either enough yet.. 16:25 ashimema in other random questions.. anyone here played with mojolicious? 16:24 ashimema caits been talking me through it throughout her local testing before it was posted to bz.. but I'm also none the wiser on how it's 'meant' to interact with those scripts currently. 16:23 ashimema Will have a play with that one some time soon :) 16:23 oleonard I may or may not be confused about what the changes to the Cart/List email scripts are supposed to do :) 16:22 ashimema you read my mind 16:22 ashimema haha.. thanks oleonard.. 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9530 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Failed QA , Allow separate 'Reply To' and 'From' email address for notices 16:22 oleonard Bug 9530 16:22 ashimema I want to test that too at some point 16:22 ashimema is this your mail bug cait.. 16:20 cait bye #koha 15:59 cait i can't test again right now as I was about to leave :( 15:59 oleonard Well, if I'm assuming the wrong thing it will be easy to go back and sign off on the rest 15:57 cait that it doesn't know the brnach and really always sends it with the email from kohaadminemailaddress 15:57 oleonard ...if that's true then the test plans are incorrect. 15:56 cait perhaps we first need to verifyif that is still true 15:56 cait that#s what i thought 15:56 oleonard I see... Those scripts would be expected to use the default value because they were never set up to use the branch value 15:56 cait maybe there is a change that i missed in koha - in our older versions the list and branch emails were always sent from kohaadmin in my tests, i hope it was not misconfiguration or something 15:55 cait the way i thought it shoudl work was: when the email is not sent from the branch email, but from the admin address (because koha doesn't pick a branch) - then all the email settings shoul be from the prefs 15:54 cait hm not sure, maybe i am confused :) 15:54 oleonard But this email header: "Reply-To: oleonard+replytodefault@myacpl.org" should use the email address specified in the branch table instead of the default if my library has a value in branches.branchreplyto 15:53 cait hope i didn't miss something there 15:52 cait so falling back to the general ones makes sense, if the emai lis sent from the admin address to begin with 15:52 cait did you test master before? the email shoudl be from kohaadmin i think, it was in my tests 15:52 cait they are always sent from the admin address 15:51 cait ah 15:51 oleonard The Cart and List emails are being sent with the default replyto and returnpath whether or not it's from a library which has a custom one specified in the branches table 15:51 cait ah, what's the problem? 15:50 oleonard Couldn't sign off on all the patches on that bug unfortunately 15:49 cait oleonard++ 15:48 cait oleonard: thx! 15:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #106: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/106/ 15:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #84: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/84/ 15:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #98: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/98/ 15:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #105: FIXED in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/105/ 15:25 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:25 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 15:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #97: FIXED in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/97/ 15:14 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:14 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 15:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #103: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/103/ 15:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #102: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/102/ 15:00 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:00 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 14:49 ashimema I'm happy to update the template once the wiki in general has had an upgrade.. 14:49 ashimema and galen offered to nuke some of the category plugins.. but hasn't got round to it yet. 14:48 ashimema indeed.. it's a really nasty template the RFC stuff we have cait.. 14:48 ashimema I imagine it need some fleshing out as time goes on. 14:48 cait oh those categories... 14:48 ashimema Certainly a good start barton. 14:30 barton ashimema, cait, tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Zebra_add_z39.50_attribute_rfc 14:21 tcohen bye 14:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #96: STILL FAILING in 7.3 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/96/ 14:03 ashimema I'de certainly be interested in such a feature.. 14:02 ashimema sounds excellent barton.. 13:59 barton but that's beyond the scope of the current discussion. I'll add it as a note on the RFC. 13:57 barton ... it would be better for the commonalities of those files to be written together as well. 13:57 barton so 'single point of truth' is somewhat relative. 13:56 barton well, yeah that would be better -- because there are actually six *-koha-indexdefs.xml files... 13:55 cait now we should do something nicer 13:54 cait although that would have still been better then hardcoding it from the beginning :) 13:54 ashimema oh good :) 13:54 cait ashimema: i didn't mean to make it one 13:54 ashimema or maybe a bit like QP.. config refers to the file. 13:54 ashimema but that's just me ;) 13:54 ashimema in fact.. I'd kinda like that stuff to go in config rather than a further file.. 13:53 ashimema glad we agree there. 13:53 ashimema :) 13:53 barton no. single point of truth. 13:53 ashimema please don't make it a syspref though. 13:53 barton ... and every time after that ;-) 13:53 barton yeah, I was annoyed when I first ran across that. 13:52 cait quite annoying 13:52 cait because it's the only file 'inside' you have to change for making a new index searchable 13:52 cait even as a stupid pref it would be better than it is now 13:51 ashimema it indeed would be a fantastic improvement. 13:51 barton yeah. 13:51 cait yep 13:51 barton cait: the hard coded indexes in C4::Search::getIndexes? 13:49 cait barton: i woud like to see that gone... 13:48 cait oleonard++ 13:39 ashimema yeah... that would indeed be a fantastic win. 13:38 barton ashimema: If we were to read zebra index names from *-koha-indexdefs.xml, we could remove the hard coded names in C4/Search.pm ... that would be a win. 13:36 ashimema seems sensible to me oleonard 13:35 oleonard I hope that works for people. 13:35 oleonard I changed the format of the BibLibre sandbox list to include Zebra config info: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes#BibLibre 13:28 tcohen hi oleonard 13:27 * cait waves 13:20 oleonard Hi 13:20 barton morning oleonard! 13:14 tcohen bugzilla's comments are not the best way of communicating an idea that might need some iterations 13:14 ashimema In a related topic.. it's often come up that people want to be able to control his configuration from within the staff client interface. I personally think that's a terrible idea.. as it's so interlinked with the background indexer and stuff.. but I wouldn't be adverse to being able to 'see' said config file from the client.. that would be useful 13:13 barton Ok, that's not a bad plan. 13:13 tcohen and once you reached the point the idea is ready for discussion (i.e. well explained, etc) fill an enh bug pointing to the RFC 13:12 tcohen wiki 13:12 tcohen barton: i'd start with an RFC on the wiko 13:12 ashimema sounds like a fair idea to me barton 13:12 barton Shall I make a feature request of this? That should get gmcharlt's attention. 13:12 ashimema to use them you have to fall into the category of knowing what goes wrong when you do ;) 13:11 ashimema certainly when we go DOM only those scripts should be removed completely as barton says.. 13:10 * barton needs to check his "you don't need to use someone's name twice" filter ;-) 13:10 ashimema so they're doing it 'the old way' and then running through the scripts to update the dom config 13:09 ashimema As far as I know cait.. anyone whose asked here lately has been following my notes for adding indexes : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/zebra 13:09 barton tcohen: I think that you're thinking about make_zebra_dom_cfg_from_record_abs, tcohen; and cait is right, that shouldn't be used. 13:08 cait tcohen: is it hte file that shoudl not be used or the one that shoud be? i still heave to learn how to add a dom index 13:08 ashimema nad tcohen of course ;P 13:07 tcohen barton: those files are there for translating record.abs into the xsl file that is needed for DOM 13:07 ashimema tihnk the pros in that field these days are gmcharlt and dcook mostly.. though when around jcammins can be useful too ;) 13:06 ashimema certainly sounds viable from your description 13:06 barton yep. 13:05 cait but it's supposed to go away... so. 13:05 barton ... and I reailzed that we've almost got one already. 13:05 cait i think creating record.abs could be impossible, once we start to make more use of the better options we have with dom 13:05 barton I was in the process of wrting a biblio-koha-indexdefs-to-yaml script last night so that I could create a single a yaml file that could be a single point of truth -- just because I've got a ton of partners that need indexes added, and I'm all about a single point of truth... 13:03 ashimema 'fraid i'm not expert enough to know whether it's good one or not though ;) 13:03 ashimema it's an interesting thought.. 13:00 huginn druthb: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 13:00 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 13:00 druthb @quote get 123 12:59 barton ... and maybe even record.abs, just for backward compatibility. 12:58 barton then we can write another xsl or perhaps perl script to read from biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and produce bib1.att and ccl.properties 12:56 barton s/informatin/information/ 12:56 barton So how 'bout we go ahead and store Z39.50 attribute in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml, then modify koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl so that it will not write that information into biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl? That way, biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml becomes a single point of truth for all informatin about indexes. 12:55 ashimema I follow so far. 12:55 barton All of these, *except* for Z39.50 attribute are in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml -- but biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml isn't used directly -- it is transformed using xsltproc and koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl into biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl. 12:51 barton As I understand it, there are a relatively small number of variables that are tracked by the various files that we use for zebra configuration: 1) Marc field 2) Marc Subfield 3) Zebra index name 4) Zebra Search type 5) Z39.50 attribute 12:46 barton I've been rolling something about zebra indexes around in my head, and I wanted a bit of feedback. 12:45 barton mornin #koha 12:40 ashimema down a river. 12:40 ashimema in this sense 'kayaking' or 'canoeing' 12:38 tcohen paddling? 12:36 ashimema Just us mad brits paddling most of the time ;) 12:34 wahanui Lot is probably possible already without having to rewrite the templates 12:34 ashimema Lot? 12:33 sophie_m but I think that Lot is easier for me 12:32 sophie_m maybe ashimema 12:32 ashimema it's a very scenic river. 12:32 cait as long as you can leave the work behind, it's vacation, doesn't have to be far 12:32 ashimema will you be paddling sophie_m? 12:31 sophie_m cait : not very far, we're going to Dordogne 12:30 tcohen hi :) 12:30 cait sophie_m: are you travelling? 12:30 cait hi tcohen :) 12:30 tcohen morning 12:29 sophie_m :) 12:29 cait sophie_m: a bit, maybe visiting a friend and family 12:17 sophie_m Have you planned to travel ? 12:16 sophie_m my last day tomorrow :) 12:16 cait 1.5 weeks :) 12:16 cait my last day today :) 12:15 sophie_m I need some holidays ;-) 12:15 cait i'd blame the weather :) 12:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 31.4°C (2:15 PM CEST on August 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 5%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 12:15 cait @wunder Marseille 12:15 sophie_m I remove my comment 12:15 sophie_m ohhh, I'm getting old, I've already done it this way 12:14 cait i think with it being in pushed to stable - it will not show up in the todo lists 12:14 sophie_m until it is pushed 12:14 cait hm maybe make a new report 12:14 sophie_m cait : everywhere I guess 12:13 cait i remember another patch that reverted osmething similar, not sure how it all plays together 12:13 cait sophie_m: which versions does it need to be reverted out? 12:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html 12:12 sophie_m I've just added a comment on bug 9372, but I don't know if I should also change status 12:11 cait hi sophie_m :) 12:11 sophie_m hi #koha 12:11 cait woohoo :) 12:11 ashimema I got 7 of my 36 rebases done whilst you were gone.. 12:11 ashimema sounds fun 12:09 cait we met them for lunch and one of the camp sites around the lake 12:09 cait the rest of the team is doing a boat tour today 12:07 ashimema that was a long lunch 12:07 cait back 09:43 ashimema enjoy lunch 09:41 cait taking a long lunch break today, bbl :) 09:40 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 09:40 ashimema @later tell marcelr could I pick your brains about xslt parsing errors when you get back pretty please? 09:31 ashimema I missed him 09:31 huginn cait: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi cait 09:31 cait @seen marcelr 09:30 cait hm not that one 09:30 huginn cait: markvandenborre was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 16 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <markvandenborre> it's only tiny, but it took me some time to puzzle together 09:30 cait @seen markvandenborre 09:30 cait hm he was here yesterday 09:30 ashimema but he;s not been around for a while 09:30 ashimema need Marcel really :( 09:28 cait hm sorry :( 09:26 ashimema can't seem to trace it back any further 09:25 ashimema I'm stuck with an error... 'Could not create file parser context for file' 09:25 ashimema ay libxml pros here.. 08:51 ashimema I'm currently trying to track down why my remote xslt stylesheets aren't working. 08:50 ashimema though currently before I can get back to fighting with git.. 08:48 cait my mind is not so fresh, buti will come back to it 08:48 cait :) 08:47 ashimema cait.. just shout if you want help learning Mock.. having jsut traveled that path it's fresh in my mind.. 08:46 ashimema we need a photographer for kohacon2014.. I wan't lots of good pics as I'm missing it this year 08:46 ashimema those are seriously good quality pics. 08:46 cait was i hotel with fever that night, super annoying 08:46 cait still sad i missed the library bar 08:45 cait go back and sgn off things! heh 08:45 * rangi gets sucked down the vortex 08:45 rangi hehe https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113369277/in/set-72157625236896938 08:44 rangi we need to get anitsirk to come to all our conferences, and take photos 08:44 cait :) 08:44 cait maybe someone could teach about mockig things 08:44 rangi https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/sets/72157625236896938 08:44 * cait too 08:43 * ashimema is looking forward to the next hackfest. 08:43 ashimema cool 08:43 cait https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5130591005/in/photostream/ < the super sad pic 08:39 cait i wonder what happened to that t-shirt... i have only a black owl shirt now. hm. 08:39 cait oh 08:38 rangi https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5127674677/ 08:37 cait but it was a start 08:37 cait really easy ones, to make sure the module compiled at all :) 08:37 rangi 2010 08:37 cait we wrote tests 08:36 ashimema shame 08:36 ashimema think that was before my time cait ;) 08:36 cait gone far from there 08:35 cait rangi: do you remember 'writing unit tests 101' in nz? :) 08:35 ashimema but I've got there now.. 08:35 ashimema me too :).. it's been a learning curve for me tbh. 08:34 rangi im just happy people are writing tests :) 08:34 rangi no worries 08:34 ashimema coolios.. thanks 08:34 rangi and vice versa really 08:34 rangi *nod* 08:34 ashimema well.. I suppose once the mocked version is written, it's actually pretty trivial to copy it accross to db_dependant and swap the mock for db calls 08:34 rangi if its simple sql, then independent first 08:33 rangi if its complex sql, i think db_dependent first 08:33 ashimema I see.. 08:33 rangi yeah, in the perfect world, we'd have both sets of tests 08:33 ashimema I tend to edge toward the db independent route for most of my tests... but I can certainly see how that would mean that I'm simply not testing for the case when the database structure changes. 08:32 rangi mostly im fine with mocking .. as long as we are testing the sql some place 08:32 rangi testing the db is a different thing 08:31 rangi then its good to have it run then 08:31 rangi if its something that is pretty critical to work 08:31 rangi get run when someone runs make test 08:31 rangi the ones in t/ 08:30 rangi ashimema: ideally you'd do both 08:30 ashimema certainly.. rabseing a public branch is plain scarry. 08:30 rangi sometimes ill make a new one (the old one rebased) 08:30 ashimema got another question for you if that's ok.. as we probably won't overlap for the next dev meeting.. what are you thoughts on when test should be written db_dependant and when you should make the effort to mock stuff so it's not? 08:29 rangi i only rebase branches i havent made public 08:29 rangi no worries 08:27 ashimema anywho.. thanks for the tips.. 08:27 ashimema me too.. I'm a pretty big fan of a clean master branch with few to no merge commits.. i prefer rebaseing a branch before merging generally.. jus seems 'cleaner' somehow 08:26 rangi yeah 08:26 ashimema gonna turn into a pretty massive job :( 36 branches to tidy up 08:26 rangi i often take the opportunity to reorder and squash some 08:25 ashimema coolios.. sounds like i've been going about it in roughly the right way anyway.. rebase -i 08:25 rangi and rearrange the commits etc, sometimes you will rebase a few times, cleaning up a bit more each time 08:25 rangi you can do some edits 08:25 ashimema It's not a koha repo in this case.. it's a nasty repo i've inherited here.. 08:24 rangi but yeah if you do -i 08:24 rangi that will rewind back to the v.3.08.06 tag .. then rebase that on top of the v3.08.07 tag 08:24 ashimema yeah.. that's how I do my upgrades.. it's an awesome command. 08:24 rangi git rebase -i v3.08.06 --onto v3.08.07 08:24 ashimema mmm 08:23 rangi now what you can also do, is if you know the point they diverged 08:23 ashimema I never got round to testing last night.. had a half hour cusotmer call that turned into 3 hours ! 08:23 ashimema is git clever enough to clean up the merge commits? 08:23 rangi git rebase -i --onto master 08:22 rangi eg 08:22 rangi rebase -i --onto someotherbranch 08:22 rangi yeah 08:21 ashimema rangi.. I wondred if you'd have an git foo advice for bringing 36 diverged branched (mostly due to hap hazard cross branch merging and cherry picking) back to the same base with only their local commits on top.? 08:20 ashimema aha.. indeed it was.. 08:20 ashimema s/th elife/the life/ 08:20 cait ashimema: was it git? 08:19 cait inspired by enthusiastic high school students? :) 08:19 ashimema there was somthing I was gonna pick your brains about.. but I can't for th elife of me remember what.. 08:19 cait rangi++ :) 08:19 ashimema coolios. 08:19 rangi doing some sign offs in front of the tv 08:19 ashimema bit late for you over there aint it? 08:19 ashimema oh.. :) 08:18 ashimema shame.. always a pleasure to chat to him 08:18 rangi nope im here 08:18 ashimema Looks like I missed rangi again.. 08:18 cait tuesday is already much nicer than monday :) 08:18 * cait got into work and found flourless chocolate cake in the kitchen... :) 08:18 cait morning ashimema :) 08:17 ashimema morning koha 07:13 cait good morning #koha :) 05:24 cait bye rangi 05:24 * rangi heads off to catch a bus 05:18 cait it's even later than I get up usually... that's the confusing bit about ti :) 05:18 aleisha :) 05:18 aleisha cait: i agree : 05:18 cait aleisha: it's jus they are trying to send me back to bed...:) 05:18 rangi heh 05:18 aleisha i'm leaving soon don't worry! cait 05:14 cait aleisha... is being there lnger than usual? 05:13 cait ? 05:13 rangi how can you be here while aleisha is here cait ! 05:11 cait heh 05:11 wahanui cait: go to bed 05:11 eythian cait? 04:46 rangi yeah its done really well to last this long 04:45 dcook ! 04:45 dcook yay 04:45 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 04:45 rangi @later tell bag whats the chances of getting some more ram in the git server? its really struggling with the usage it gets and only 500MB 04:09 rangi yeah ill see if i can fix that too 04:09 eythian that clock looks badly drifty 04:08 rangi chug chug 04:08 rangi 03:38:01 up 147 days, 13:18, 1 user, load average: 34.21, 28.58, 16.31 04:05 rangi sleep well 04:05 tcohen 1 am here! 04:05 rangi cool thanks 04:05 tcohen have a nice day! 04:05 tcohen i'll take a look tomorrow in the office 04:05 rangi thats the option 04:05 rangi Build after other projects are built 04:05 tcohen tiem 04:05 tcohen gotta get some sleep 04:05 tcohen he 04:04 rangi it may have been increased again, ill try to fix it, when i can type on it :) 04:04 rangi i wound it down, so it wouldnt oom, just start refusing 04:04 rangi i wonder if someone has increased the max connections again 04:03 rangi yeah the poor git server is ooming 04:03 rangi i think you can set a rule when configuring 04:02 tcohen could try 04:02 tcohen ah 04:02 rangi ie make u12 go after u14 has finished etc 04:02 rangi you might want to stagger them 04:01 rangi causing timeouts 04:01 tcohen ah 04:01 rangi it can overwhelm the git server 04:01 tcohen it shifts the standard deviation beyond reasoable values 04:01 rangi if a couple of other people are trying to clone, or fetch or something 04:01 rangi thats the problem with the 4 builds going at once 04:00 tcohen :-P 04:00 rangi its a failure in building 03:59 tcohen hmm, timeout shouldn't count as a failure 03:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #95: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/95/ 03:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #103: FAILURE in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/103/ 03:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #100: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/100/ 03:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #81: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/81/ 03:41 rangi yep 03:21 tcohen i just thought it wasn't needed, and it kind of got stuck a couple of times 03:21 tcohen rangi, you will notice i disabled stuff running on the jenkins master node 02:57 rangi yeah 02:57 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #805: STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/805/ 02:57 tcohen i miss the console output scrolling on jenkins 02:55 rangi ill disable it again and try and catch galen to get a password reset sometime 02:54 rangi yep 02:53 tcohen pity 02:53 tcohen that's a pitu 02:51 rangi naw, for the node 02:51 tcohen jenkins' credentials? 02:51 rangi yeah, unfortunately i cant find my login info, or i could fix the error pretty fast i think 02:50 tcohen trying the mariadb node? 02:49 rangi hi tcohen 02:49 tcohen hi rangi 02:43 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #804: STILL FAILING in 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/804/ 02:28 dbs pumped even 02:28 dbs I watched the live stream for a few sessions last year and thought the line up looked great last year, so yeah... I'm pretty pumpted 02:27 rangi dbs: i dont think ill be able to swing getting there, but cait (who lives in germany) might be able to, sounds like a good conference 02:26 dbs rangi, cait: re: SWIB -- yes, have a heck of a lot of work to do to prepare! 01:53 pianohacker I need to go, bye all. 01:25 pianohacker very cool. Worthwhile effort 01:24 rangi yep 01:24 pianohacker so a bit of a refactor of the code at the same time? 01:24 pianohacker excellent 01:22 rangi and anyone else who wanted to make a NCIP::ILS::Something module 01:22 rangi its not koha specific either, it will work with evergreen also 01:22 rangi not all 47 01:22 rangi well, all of the messages needed for ILL 01:21 pianohacker Jeez. But Koha will have fairly complete NCIP support when you're done? 01:21 rangi pretty close to done now, just the CancelRequestItem message to handle 01:20 rangi unfortunately yes 01:20 pianohacker rangi: Are you still working with that? 01:19 rangi true 01:19 pianohacker oauth2 at least has a spec that people vaguely follow 01:18 pianohacker rangi: better than NCIP! 01:08 rangi pianohacker: i think the word you were looking for was 'sux' 00:42 pianohacker indeed. 00:37 tcohen oauth2