Time  Nick         Message
00:37 tcohen       oauth2
00:42 pianohacker  indeed.
01:08 rangi        pianohacker: i think the word you were looking for was 'sux'
01:18 pianohacker  rangi: better than NCIP!
01:19 pianohacker  oauth2 at least has a spec that people vaguely follow
01:19 rangi        true
01:20 pianohacker  rangi: Are you still working with that?
01:20 rangi        unfortunately yes
01:21 rangi        pretty close to done now, just the CancelRequestItem message to handle
01:21 pianohacker  Jeez. But Koha will have fairly complete NCIP support when you're done?
01:22 rangi        well, all of the messages needed for ILL
01:22 rangi        not all 47
01:22 rangi        its not koha specific either, it will work with evergreen also
01:22 rangi        and anyone else who wanted to make a NCIP::ILS::Something module
01:24 pianohacker  excellent
01:24 pianohacker  so a bit of a refactor of the code at the same time?
01:24 rangi        yep
01:25 pianohacker  very cool. Worthwhile effort
01:53 pianohacker  I need to go, bye all.
02:26 dbs          rangi, cait: re: SWIB -- yes, have a heck of a lot of work to do to prepare!
02:27 rangi        dbs: i dont think ill be able to swing getting there, but cait (who lives in germany) might be able to, sounds like a good conference
02:28 dbs          I watched the live stream for a few sessions last year and thought the line up looked great last year, so yeah... I'm pretty pumpted
02:28 dbs          pumped even
02:43 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #804: STILL FAILING in 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/804/
02:49 tcohen       hi rangi
02:49 rangi        hi tcohen
02:50 tcohen       trying the mariadb node?
02:51 rangi        yeah, unfortunately i cant find my login info, or i could fix the error pretty fast i think
02:51 tcohen       jenkins' credentials?
02:51 rangi        naw, for the node
02:53 tcohen       that's a pitu
02:53 tcohen       pity
02:54 rangi        yep
02:55 rangi        ill disable it again and try and catch galen to get a password reset sometime
02:57 tcohen       i miss the console output scrolling on jenkins
02:57 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #805: STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/805/
02:57 rangi        yeah
03:21 tcohen       rangi, you will notice i disabled stuff running on the jenkins master node
03:21 tcohen       i just thought it wasn't needed, and it kind of got stuck a couple of times
03:41 rangi        yep
03:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #81: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/81/
03:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #100: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/100/
03:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #103: FAILURE in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/103/
03:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #95: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/95/
03:59 tcohen       hmm, timeout shouldn't count as a failure
04:00 rangi        its a failure in building
04:00 tcohen       :-P
04:01 rangi        thats the problem with the 4 builds going at once
04:01 rangi        if a couple of other people are trying to clone, or fetch or something
04:01 tcohen       it shifts the standard deviation beyond reasoable values
04:01 rangi        it can overwhelm the git server
04:01 tcohen       ah
04:01 rangi        causing timeouts
04:02 rangi        you might want to stagger them
04:02 rangi        ie make u12 go after u14 has finished etc
04:02 tcohen       ah
04:02 tcohen       could try
04:03 rangi        i think you can set a rule when configuring
04:03 rangi        yeah the poor git server is ooming
04:04 rangi        i wonder if someone has increased the max connections again
04:04 rangi        i wound it down, so it wouldnt oom, just start refusing
04:04 rangi        it may have been increased again, ill try to fix it, when i can type on it :)
04:05 tcohen       he
04:05 tcohen       gotta get some sleep
04:05 tcohen       tiem
04:05 rangi        Build after other projects are built
04:05 rangi        thats the option
04:05 tcohen       i'll take a look tomorrow in the office
04:05 tcohen       have a nice day!
04:05 rangi        cool thanks
04:05 tcohen       1 am here!
04:05 rangi        sleep well
04:08 rangi        03:38:01 up 147 days, 13:18,  1 user,  load average: 34.21, 28.58, 16.31
04:08 rangi        chug chug
04:09 eythian      that clock looks badly drifty
04:09 rangi        yeah ill see if i can fix that too
04:45 rangi        @later tell bag whats the chances of getting some more ram in the git server? its really struggling with the usage it gets and only 500MB
04:45 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
04:45 dcook        yay
04:45 dcook        !
04:46 rangi        yeah its done really well to last this long
05:11 eythian      cait?
05:11 wahanui      cait: go to bed
05:11 cait         heh
05:13 rangi        how can you be here while aleisha is here cait !
05:13 cait         ?
05:14 cait         aleisha... is being there lnger than usual?
05:18 aleisha      i'm leaving soon don't worry! cait
05:18 rangi        heh
05:18 cait         aleisha: it's jus they are trying to send me back to bed...:)
05:18 aleisha      cait: i agree :
05:18 aleisha      :)
05:18 cait         it's even later than I get up usually... that's the confusing bit about ti :)
05:24 * rangi      heads off to catch a bus
05:24 cait         bye rangi
07:13 cait         good morning #koha :)
08:17 ashimema     morning koha
08:18 cait         morning ashimema :)
08:18 * cait       got into work and found flourless chocolate cake in the kitchen... :)
08:18 cait         tuesday is already much nicer than monday :)
08:18 ashimema     Looks like I missed rangi again..
08:18 rangi        nope im here
08:18 ashimema     shame.. always a pleasure to chat to him
08:19 ashimema     oh.. :)
08:19 ashimema     bit late for you over there aint it?
08:19 rangi        doing some sign offs in front of the tv
08:19 ashimema     coolios.
08:19 cait         rangi++ :)
08:19 ashimema     there was somthing I was gonna pick your brains about.. but I can't for th elife of me remember what..
08:19 cait         inspired by enthusiastic high school students? :)
08:20 cait         ashimema: was it git?
08:20 ashimema     s/th elife/the life/
08:20 ashimema     aha.. indeed it was..
08:21 ashimema     rangi.. I wondred if you'd have an git foo advice for bringing 36 diverged branched (mostly due to hap hazard cross branch merging and cherry picking) back to the same base with only their local commits on top.?
08:22 rangi        yeah
08:22 rangi        rebase -i --onto someotherbranch
08:22 rangi        eg
08:23 rangi        git rebase -i --onto master
08:23 ashimema     is git clever enough to clean up the merge commits?
08:23 ashimema     I never got round to testing last night.. had a half hour cusotmer call that turned into 3 hours !
08:23 rangi        now what you can also do, is if you know the point they diverged
08:24 ashimema     mmm
08:24 rangi        git rebase -i v3.08.06 --onto v3.08.07
08:24 ashimema     yeah.. that's how I do my upgrades.. it's an awesome command.
08:24 rangi        that will rewind back to the v.3.08.06 tag .. then rebase that on top of the v3.08.07 tag
08:24 rangi        but yeah if you do -i
08:25 ashimema     It's not a koha repo in this case.. it's a nasty repo i've inherited here..
08:25 rangi        you can do some edits
08:25 rangi        and rearrange the commits etc, sometimes you will rebase a few times, cleaning up a bit more each time
08:25 ashimema     coolios.. sounds like i've been going about it in roughly the right way anyway.. rebase -i
08:26 rangi        i often take the opportunity to reorder and squash some
08:26 ashimema     gonna turn into a pretty massive job :(  36 branches to tidy up
08:26 rangi        yeah
08:27 ashimema     me too.. I'm a pretty big fan of a clean master branch with few to no merge commits.. i prefer rebaseing a branch before merging generally.. jus seems 'cleaner' somehow
08:27 ashimema     anywho.. thanks for the tips..
08:29 rangi        no worries
08:29 rangi        i only rebase branches i havent made public
08:30 ashimema     got another question for you if that's ok.. as we probably won't overlap for the next dev meeting.. what are you thoughts on when test should be written db_dependant and when you should make the effort to mock stuff so it's not?
08:30 rangi        sometimes ill make a new one (the old one rebased)
08:30 ashimema     certainly.. rabseing a public branch is plain scarry.
08:30 rangi        ashimema: ideally you'd do both
08:31 rangi        the ones in t/
08:31 rangi        get run when someone runs make test
08:31 rangi        if its something that is pretty critical to work
08:31 rangi        then its good to have it run then
08:32 rangi        testing the db is a different thing
08:32 rangi        mostly im fine with mocking .. as long as we are testing the sql some place
08:33 ashimema     I tend to edge toward the db independent route for most of my tests... but I can certainly see how that would mean that I'm simply not testing for the case when the database structure changes.
08:33 rangi        yeah, in the perfect world, we'd have both sets of tests
08:33 ashimema     I see..
08:33 rangi        if its complex sql, i think db_dependent first
08:34 rangi        if its simple sql, then independent first
08:34 ashimema     well.. I suppose once the mocked version is written, it's actually pretty trivial to copy it accross to db_dependant and swap the mock for db calls
08:34 rangi        *nod*
08:34 rangi        and vice versa really
08:34 ashimema     coolios.. thanks
08:34 rangi        no worries
08:34 rangi        im just happy people are writing tests :)
08:35 ashimema     me too :).. it's been a learning curve for me tbh.
08:35 ashimema     but I've got there now..
08:35 cait         rangi: do you remember 'writing unit tests 101' in nz? :)
08:36 cait         gone far from there
08:36 ashimema     think that was before my time cait ;)
08:36 ashimema     shame
08:37 cait         we wrote tests
08:37 rangi         2010
08:37 cait         really easy ones, to make sure the module compiled at all :)
08:37 cait         but it was a start
08:38 rangi        https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5127674677/
08:39 cait         oh
08:39 cait         i wonder what happened to that t-shirt... i have only a black owl shirt now. hm.
08:43 cait         https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5130591005/in/photostream/ < the super sad pic
08:43 ashimema     cool
08:43 * ashimema   is looking forward to the next hackfest.
08:44 * cait       too
08:44 rangi        https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/sets/72157625236896938
08:44 cait         maybe someone could teach about mockig things
08:44 cait         :)
08:44 rangi        we need to get anitsirk to come to all our conferences, and take photos
08:45 rangi        hehe https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113369277/in/set-72157625236896938
08:45 * rangi      gets sucked down the vortex
08:45 cait         go back and sgn off things! heh
08:46 cait         still sad i missed the library bar
08:46 cait         was i hotel with fever that night, super annoying
08:46 ashimema     those are seriously good quality pics.
08:46 ashimema     we need a photographer for kohacon2014.. I wan't lots of good pics as I'm missing it this year
08:47 ashimema     cait.. just shout if you want help learning Mock.. having jsut traveled that path it's fresh in my mind..
08:48 cait         :)
08:48 cait         my mind is not so fresh, buti will come back to it
08:50 ashimema     though currently before I can get back to fighting with git..
08:51 ashimema     I'm currently trying to track down why my remote xslt stylesheets aren't working.
09:25 ashimema     ay libxml pros here..
09:25 ashimema     I'm stuck with an error... 'Could not create file parser context for file'
09:26 ashimema     can't seem to trace it back any further
09:28 cait         hm sorry :(
09:30 ashimema     need Marcel really :(
09:30 ashimema     but he;s not been around for a while
09:30 cait         hm he was here yesterday
09:30 cait         @seen markvandenborre
09:30 huginn       cait: markvandenborre was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 16 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <markvandenborre> it's only tiny, but it took me some time to puzzle together
09:30 cait         hm not that one
09:31 cait         @seen marcelr
09:31 huginn       cait: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi cait
09:31 ashimema     I missed him
09:40 ashimema     @later tell marcelr could I pick your brains about xslt parsing errors when you get back pretty please?
09:40 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
09:41 cait         taking a long lunch break today, bbl :)
09:43 ashimema     enjoy lunch
12:07 cait         back
12:07 ashimema     that was a long lunch
12:09 cait         the rest of the team is doing a boat tour today
12:09 cait         we met them for lunch and one of the camp sites around the lake
12:11 ashimema     sounds fun
12:11 ashimema     I got 7 of my 36 rebases done whilst you were gone..
12:11 cait         woohoo :)
12:11 sophie_m     hi #koha
12:11 cait         hi sophie_m :)
12:12 sophie_m     I've just added a comment on bug 9372, but I don't know if I should also change status
12:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html
12:13 cait         sophie_m: which versions does it need to be reverted out?
12:13 cait         i remember another patch that reverted osmething similar, not sure how it all plays together
12:14 sophie_m     cait : everywhere I guess
12:14 cait         hm maybe make a new report
12:14 sophie_m     until it is pushed
12:14 cait         i think with it being in pushed to stable - it will not show up in the todo lists
12:15 sophie_m     ohhh, I'm getting old, I've already done it this way
12:15 sophie_m     I remove my comment
12:15 cait         @wunder Marseille
12:15 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 31.4°C (2:15 PM CEST on August 12, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 5%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
12:15 cait         i'd blame the weather :)
12:15 sophie_m     I need some holidays ;-)
12:16 cait         my last day today :)
12:16 cait         1.5 weeks :)
12:16 sophie_m     my last day tomorrow :)
12:17 sophie_m     Have you planned to travel ?
12:29 cait         sophie_m: a bit, maybe visiting a friend and family
12:29 sophie_m     :)
12:30 tcohen       morning
12:30 cait         hi tcohen :)
12:30 cait         sophie_m: are you travelling?
12:30 tcohen       hi :)
12:31 sophie_m     cait : not very far, we're going to Dordogne
12:32 ashimema     will you be paddling sophie_m?
12:32 cait         as long as you can leave the work behind, it's vacation, doesn't have to be far
12:32 ashimema     it's a very scenic river.
12:32 sophie_m     maybe ashimema
12:33 sophie_m     but I think that Lot is easier for me
12:34 ashimema     Lot?
12:34 wahanui      Lot is probably possible already without having to rewrite the templates
12:36 ashimema     Just us mad brits paddling most of the time ;)
12:38 tcohen       paddling?
12:40 ashimema     in this sense 'kayaking' or 'canoeing'
12:40 ashimema     down a river.
12:45 barton       mornin #koha
12:46 barton       I've been rolling something about zebra indexes around in my head, and I wanted a bit of feedback.
12:51 barton       As I understand it, there are a relatively small number of variables that are tracked by the various files that we use for zebra configuration: 1) Marc field 2) Marc Subfield 3) Zebra index name 4) Zebra Search type 5) Z39.50 attribute
12:55 barton       All of these, *except* for Z39.50 attribute are in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml -- but biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml isn't used directly -- it is transformed using xsltproc and koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl into biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl.
12:55 ashimema     I follow so far.
12:56 barton       So how 'bout we go ahead and store Z39.50 attribute in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml, then modify koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl so that it will not write that information into biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl? That way, biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml becomes a single point of truth for all informatin about indexes.
12:56 barton       s/informatin/information/
12:58 barton       then we can write another xsl or perhaps perl script to read from biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and produce bib1.att and ccl.properties
12:59 barton       ... and maybe even record.abs, just for backward compatibility.
13:00 druthb       @quote get 123
13:00 wahanui      http://xkcd.com/1172/
13:00 huginn       druthb: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
13:03 ashimema     it's an interesting thought..
13:03 ashimema     'fraid i'm not expert enough to know whether it's  good one or not though ;)
13:05 barton       I was in the process of wrting a biblio-koha-indexdefs-to-yaml script last night so that I could create a single a yaml file that could be a single point of truth -- just because I've got a ton of partners that need indexes added, and I'm all about a single point of truth...
13:05 cait         i think creating record.abs could be impossible, once we start to make more use of the better options we have with dom
13:05 barton       ... and I reailzed that we've almost got one already.
13:05 cait         but it's supposed to go away... so.
13:06 barton       yep.
13:06 ashimema     certainly sounds viable from your description
13:07 ashimema     tihnk the pros in that field these days are gmcharlt and dcook mostly.. though when around jcammins can be useful too ;)
13:07 tcohen       barton: those files are there for translating record.abs into the xsl file that is needed for DOM
13:08 ashimema     nad tcohen of course ;P
13:08 cait         tcohen: is it hte file that shoudl not be used or the one that shoud be? i still heave to learn how to add a dom index
13:09 barton       tcohen: I think that you're thinking about make_zebra_dom_cfg_from_record_abs, tcohen; and cait is right, that shouldn't be used.
13:09 ashimema     As far as I know cait.. anyone whose asked here lately has been following my notes for adding indexes : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/zebra
13:10 ashimema     so they're doing it 'the old way' and then running through the scripts to update the dom config
13:10 * barton     needs to check his "you don't need to use someone's name twice" filter ;-)
13:11 ashimema     certainly when we go DOM only those scripts should be removed completely as barton says..
13:12 ashimema     to use them you have to fall into the category of knowing what goes wrong when you do ;)
13:12 barton       Shall I make a feature request of this? That should get gmcharlt's attention.
13:12 ashimema     sounds like a fair idea to me barton
13:12 tcohen       barton: i'd start with an RFC on the wiko
13:12 tcohen       wiki
13:13 tcohen       and once you reached the point the idea is ready for discussion (i.e. well explained, etc) fill an enh bug pointing to the RFC
13:13 barton       Ok, that's not a bad plan.
13:14 ashimema     In a related topic.. it's often come up that people want to be able to control his configuration from within the staff client interface.  I personally think that's a terrible idea.. as it's so interlinked with the background indexer and stuff.. but I wouldn't be adverse to being able to 'see' said config file from the client.. that would be useful
13:14 tcohen       bugzilla's comments are not the best way of communicating an idea that might need some iterations
13:20 barton       morning oleonard!
13:20 oleonard     Hi
13:27 * cait       waves
13:28 tcohen       hi oleonard
13:35 oleonard     I changed the format of the BibLibre sandbox list to include Zebra config info: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes#BibLibre
13:35 oleonard     I hope that works for people.
13:36 ashimema     seems sensible to me oleonard
13:38 barton       ashimema: If we were to read zebra index names from *-koha-indexdefs.xml, we could remove the hard coded names in C4/Search.pm ... that would be a win.
13:39 ashimema     yeah... that would indeed be a fantastic win.
13:48 cait         oleonard++
13:49 cait         barton: i woud like to see that gone...
13:51 barton       cait: the hard coded indexes in C4::Search::getIndexes?
13:51 cait         yep
13:51 barton       yeah.
13:51 ashimema     it indeed would be a fantastic improvement.
13:52 cait         even as a stupid pref it would be better than it is now
13:52 cait         because it's the only file 'inside' you have to change for making a new index searchable
13:52 cait         quite annoying
13:53 barton       yeah, I was annoyed when I first ran across that.
13:53 barton       ... and every time after that ;-)
13:53 ashimema     please don't make it a syspref though.
13:53 barton       no. single point of truth.
13:53 ashimema     :)
13:53 ashimema     glad we agree there.
13:54 ashimema     in fact.. I'd kinda like that stuff to go in config rather than a further file..
13:54 ashimema     but that's just me ;)
13:54 ashimema     or maybe a bit like QP.. config refers to the file.
13:54 cait         ashimema: i didn't mean to make it one
13:54 ashimema     oh good :)
13:54 cait         although that would have still been better then hardcoding it from the beginning :)
13:55 cait         now we should do something nicer
13:56 barton       well, yeah that would be better -- because there are actually six *-koha-indexdefs.xml files...
13:57 barton       so 'single point of truth' is somewhat relative.
13:57 barton       ... it would be better for the commonalities of those files to be written together as well.
13:59 barton       but that's beyond the scope of the current discussion. I'll add it as a note on the RFC.
14:02 ashimema     sounds excellent barton..
14:03 ashimema     I'de certainly be interested in such a feature..
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14:21 tcohen       bye
14:30 barton       ashimema, cait, tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Zebra_add_z39.50_attribute_rfc
14:48 ashimema     Certainly a good start barton.
14:48 cait         oh those categories...
14:48 ashimema     I imagine it need some fleshing out as time goes on.
14:48 ashimema     indeed.. it's a really nasty template the RFC stuff we have cait..
14:49 ashimema     and galen offered to nuke some of the category plugins.. but hasn't got round to it yet.
14:49 ashimema     I'm happy to update the template once the wiki in general has had an upgrade..
15:00 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
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15:14 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
15:14 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
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15:25 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
15:25 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
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15:48 cait         oleonard: thx!
15:49 cait         oleonard++
15:50 oleonard     Couldn't sign off on all the patches on that bug unfortunately
15:51 cait         ah, what's the problem?
15:51 oleonard     The Cart and List emails are being sent with the default replyto and returnpath whether or not it's from a library which has a custom one specified in the branches table
15:51 cait         ah
15:52 cait         they are always sent from the admin address
15:52 cait         did you test master before? the email shoudl be from kohaadmin i think, it was in my tests
15:52 cait         so falling back to the general ones makes sense, if the emai lis sent from the admin address to begin with
15:53 cait         hope i didn't miss something there
15:54 oleonard     But this email header: "Reply-To: oleonard+replytodefault@myacpl.org" should use the email address specified in the branch table instead of the default if my library has a value in branches.branchreplyto
15:54 cait         hm not sure, maybe i am confused :)
15:55 cait         the way i thought it shoudl work was: when the email is not sent from the branch email, but from the admin address (because koha doesn't pick a branch) - then all the email settings shoul be from the prefs
15:56 cait         maybe there is a change that i missed in koha - in our older versions the list and branch emails were always sent from kohaadmin in my tests, i hope it was not misconfiguration or something
15:56 oleonard     I see... Those scripts would be expected to use the default value because they were never set up to use the branch value
15:56 cait         that#s what i thought
15:56 cait         perhaps we first need to verifyif that is still true
15:57 oleonard     ...if that's true then the test plans are incorrect.
15:57 cait         that it doesn't know the brnach and really always sends it with the email from kohaadminemailaddress
15:59 oleonard     Well, if I'm assuming the wrong thing it will be easy to go back and sign off on the rest
15:59 cait         i can't test again right now as I was about to leave :(
16:20 cait         bye #koha
16:22 ashimema     is this your mail bug cait..
16:22 ashimema     I want to test that too at some point
16:22 oleonard     Bug 9530
16:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9530 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Failed QA , Allow separate 'Reply To' and 'From' email address for notices
16:22 ashimema     haha.. thanks oleonard..
16:22 ashimema     you read my mind
16:23 oleonard     I may or may not be confused about what the changes to the Cart/List email scripts are supposed to do :)
16:23 ashimema     Will have a play with that one some time soon :)
16:24 ashimema     caits been talking me through it throughout her local testing before it was posted to bz.. but I'm also none the wiser on how it's 'meant' to interact with those scripts currently.
16:25 ashimema     in other random questions.. anyone here played with mojolicious?
16:25 ashimema     I'm currently trying to compare it with catalyst..  having not played with either enough yet..
16:53 bag          hello
16:55 bag          @later tell rangi - yeah sure thing we can up the server ram
16:55 huginn       bag: The operation succeeded.
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17:22 nengard      what do i do if i was pushing to git and it seems to have frozen? just wait it out?
17:23 tcohen       something is wrong with Git
17:27 tcohen       rangi mentioned earlier
17:27 tcohen       who maintains git?
17:27 cait         tcohen:  a bywater server i think
17:28 bag          yeah I think it's just overwhelmed on ram
17:28 tcohen       maintained by bywater?
17:28 martian523   hi, someone may have asked this issue before, but i couldn't seem to solve it.  "NaN" shows up when I'm doing my acquistions
17:28 bag          we're going to jump it up in ram as soon as larryb finishes what he's working on
17:29 cait         martian523: hm that means not a number - where exactly does it show up?
17:30 martian523   it's fine before i add book
17:30 martian523   but after i add book, and goes down to accounting
17:31 martian523   Replacement cost:  (adjusted for USD) Budgeted cost: Total:  (budgeted cost * quantity)
17:31 martian523   all shows NaN
17:31 cait         hm ok
17:31 cait         what did yo uenter as list price?
17:31 cait         does the page load with NaN or is it like that after you enter a first value?
17:32 martian523   it loads NaN after I added a title
17:33 cait         where do you add the title?
17:34 cait         could you share a screenshot of the page?
17:34 martian523   ok.
17:35 martian523   sorry, where should i paste the screen shot?
17:36 cait         you'd have to upload it somewhere
17:36 cait         paste can only work with text
17:36 cait         my guess is: you have a non numeric value in one of the fields that should be numeric
17:36 cait         on the order page... that can be in different places
17:36 cait         it could also be a typo in your tax values (gist system preference)
17:37 cait         that would be my gues
17:37 cait         s
17:37 tcohen       #bywater!
17:37 martian523   but there wasn't a problem before upgrading
17:37 cait         and you need to use decimal points
17:38 bag          tcohen:
17:38 tcohen       hi bag
17:38 bag          hey tcohen
17:38 cait         hi bag
17:38 tcohen       there seems to be  a problem with git
17:38 bag          yeah I think it's getting overwhelmed
17:39 bag          give me a few to see if I see anything
17:39 bag          right now it's in the queue to be upgraded on RAM
17:39 tcohen       there hasn't been a change in how we use it, I think, maybe its under attack?
17:40 bag          yeah could be something like that
17:40 bag          I don't think it's responding
17:42 bag          ok tcohen it should be down for a little bit - we are resizing it
17:42 cait         bywater++
17:42 cait         brb
17:43 tcohen       bywater++
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17:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage
17:49 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage.
17:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage
17:51 bag          @karma bywater
17:51 huginn       bag: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
17:51 bag          :)
17:51 bag          @karma
17:51 huginn       bag: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (131), "cait" (109), and "oleonard" (79).  Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5).  You (bag) are ranked 17 out of 260.
17:51 bag          @karma bag
17:51 huginn       bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 20 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 19.
17:52 * oleonard   lights his torch and grabs a pitchfork, off to find the decreaser
17:52 druthb       @karma
17:52 huginn       druthb: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (131), "cait" (109), and "oleonard" (79).  Lowest karma: "^" (-7), "-" (-6), and "MARC" (-5).  You (druthb) are ranked 27 out of 260.
17:52 druthb       @karma druthb
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18:01 tcohen       nengard_lunch: will you branch the manual for 3.16 soon?
18:01 nengard      yes was thinking I'd do that this week actually
18:02 tcohen       awesome, we have really impatient people here :-D
18:02 tcohen       (we are going live with 3.16 by 3.16.3 date)
18:02 nengard      Wait - there is a 3.16 manual already
18:02 nengard      there's not a 3.18 manual
18:02 nengard      I'm going to do the 3.18 manual this week
18:03 nengard      http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/
18:04 tcohen       I was looking at http://es.koha-community.org/manual for start translating 3.16 manual into spanish
18:04 tcohen       i'm not sure what needs to be done to have it ready for translation, maybe is something bgkriegel needs to do?
18:04 cait         i think it might be
18:05 nengard      oh so you don't translate on master? I see - 3.16 = master right now
18:05 nengard      I'll make it so that 3.18 = master and 3.16 is it's own branch this week
18:06 nengard      I wait until I get the manual as close to done as I possibly can - not sure there are any features I missed in 3.16 so we're ready for that switch
18:06 tcohen       i think you're correct, bgkriegel expects 3.16 to be branched
18:06 tcohen       once you branch it I'll mention that to him
18:07 tcohen       so he does his trick :-D
18:07 nengard      okey dokey
18:07 tcohen       nengard++
18:16 tcohen       the sysops guys have just given jenkins nodes 20GB extra space!
18:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #546 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
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18:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage
18:18 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12735: Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage.
18:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage
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18:29 bag          tcohen: I think git is back up with more RAM now - can you check to see if you are able to work with it?
18:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #547 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #545 1 day 1 hr ago)
18:32 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:32 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #547: FIXED in 2 min 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/547/
18:32 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix syntax errors in cms section
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18:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #79 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #77 1 day 1 hr ago)
18:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:37 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #79: FIXED in 9.7 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/79/
18:37 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix syntax errors in cms section
18:42 martian523   NaN issue, jpg link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek9xxxg5t4k9b5r/koha%20NaN.JPG
18:42 martian523   i'm sure there's something that can fix this, but i don't know how
18:47 oleonard     What Koha version martian523 ?
18:49 martian523   3.14.9
18:57 oleonard     Sorry martian523 I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe confirm that values in the gist system preference are strictly numeric?
18:58 martian523   does going over budget cause problems?
19:02 oleonard     Not in my test
19:04 oleonard     What browser martian523?
19:09 martian523   chrome
19:09 martian523   does that make a difference?
19:09 oleonard     It shouldn't
19:09 oleonard     If you're using Chrome I would assume the browser isn't the issue.
19:09 martian523   i don't know what's going on
19:10 martian523   when i tested the upgrade on test server, everything's ok
19:10 martian523   but when it went live, problem exist
19:10 martian523   it started with 3.12
19:11 martian523   so something from 3.10 to 3.12 must have changed
19:11 martian523   but don't know what
19:13 oleonard     did you check the value you have in the gist system preference? What is it?
19:13 martian523   what's gist system preference?
19:14 oleonard     A system preference called "gist"
19:14 oleonard     Administration -> System preferences
19:15 martian523   i have the following : 0|0.0725|0.0825|0.08625|0.0925|0.0950|0.0875|0.0850
19:16 martian523   should i make some corrections? is there something not right?
19:19 oleonard     It doesn't appear to be wrong
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19:21 oleonard     martian523: The only way I can reproduce what appears in your screenshot is if I manually enter a value in "Vendor price" which is non-numeric. It doesn't look like you have non-numeric data in "vendor price," although it's hard to tell for sure from your screenshot
19:23 martian523   they are numeric
19:23 martian523   even though i can input numbers manually, but it's still kinda driving me crazy
19:24 oleonard     Time for me to leave. Good luck martian523
19:27 cait         martian523: your percentages are a bit small
19:27 cait         areyou sure those are right?
19:27 martian523   tax rate in california
19:27 cait         could you try emptying out your gist and try with just 10 percent? 0.10
19:28 cait         jus tto see if it makes a difference
19:28 martian523   but if it wasn't a problem before, why would it be a problem now?
19:28 martian523   ok, i'll try it
19:29 cait         not sure, just trying to figure out where the problem might be
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19:32 martian523   no difference
19:36 martian523   somebody has a similar issue, but i don't know if the symbol is the problem. http://www.marshut.net/zvhsh/acquisition-ordering-error.html
19:43 cait         hm
19:43 cait         it might be that it#s something with the currency there
19:44 cait         did you change something about the exchange rates by chance?
19:45 cait         I think it's a problem in the javascript
19:45 martian523   i don't think i did
19:46 cait         hm puzzling
19:46 martian523   yes, very puzzling.
19:46 martian523   but it has to be something from 3.10 to 3.12
19:46 cait         when you enter the list price
19:46 cait         the other fields are filled by javascript
19:46 cait         somewhere, something non numerical is slipping in
19:47 martian523   yes, that worked before
19:47 cait         or the calculation gets out of th range of numbers jaascript can work with... I think
19:47 cait         something like that
19:47 martian523   i thought upgrading to 3.14 would solve it, but still exist
19:47 cait         we have libraries using acq in 3.12.9 - i never got a report about something like this
19:48 cait         maybe a difference in the data
19:48 martian523   where should i have IT check?
19:48 martian523   javascript?
19:48 wahanui      rumour has it javascript is not super super evil
19:48 martian523   but maybe super? =)
19:48 cait         i i'd start directly on the page - with firebug or similar
19:48 cait         trying to see where the javascript goes wrong
19:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #14: ABORTED in 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/14/
19:49 martian523   i assume IT would know all these terms?
19:50 cait         depends on the it person i guess :)
20:10 rangi        hmm jenkins is killing the git server
20:10 rangi        im gonna make these jobs run after each other instead of all at once
20:10 rangi        bag: awesome about the ram
20:13 rangi        there now for master it should go u14, u12, d7, d6
20:13 cait         rangi++
20:13 tcohen       rangi
20:13 tcohen       how can jenkins kill git
20:13 tcohen       ?
20:14 tcohen       i know they are 4 tasks at a time, but, just 4!
20:14 rangi        htere were 6
20:14 rangi        and the git server has 500MB of RAM
20:14 tcohen       oh
20:14 rangi        and the git repo is big
20:14 bag          rangi it should be up to 1000 now
20:14 rangi        and there are multiple other things
20:14 cait         :)
20:15 rangi        like repo.or.cz, and the github mirror and random people around the world etc
20:15 bag          give that a shot and it it still doesn't work then I can go to 2gb (maybe)
20:15 rangi        also now
20:15 tcohen       ok
20:15 rangi        ta bag
20:15 rangi        also now, if u14 explodes
20:15 rangi        it wont try u12 for master
20:15 tcohen       it was exploding because the nodes ran out of space
20:15 rangi        *nod*
20:16 tcohen       because it was deleting my symlink and trying to fetch the whole git repo again
20:16 rangi        now it works its way through it, so it doesnt build things we know will fail :)
20:16 rangi        which should be more efficient
20:16 tcohen       i know have enough room for the 4 git copies
20:16 rangi        in general
20:16 rangi        cool
20:17 rangi        bag: looks good s far
20:17 rangi        we arent swapping yet :)
20:17 tcohen       i'm sending an email about that to rmaints
20:17 rangi        i havent touched the rmaint ones
20:17 rangi        just master
20:17 tcohen       because i refactored the script a bit
20:17 rangi        do you want me to make the rmaint ones cascade too?
20:18 tcohen       they don't have much work currently :-P
20:18 tcohen       lets see how it behaves for a while
20:19 rangi        cool
20:19 rangi        i think the upside of this will be less mail, so people might pay more attention to it :)
20:19 tcohen       heh
20:19 rangi        ie they wont get 4 emails that the same test failed
20:20 tcohen       the best would be to have Koha_Master (for example) to run in 4 nodes, and have a report fr each one
20:21 rangi        thats what it does now isnt it?
20:21 tcohen       there is one task for each node currently
20:26 tcohen       i want to configure it another way, but didn't have the time to dig a bit more on that
20:36 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:36 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #106: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/106/
20:37 rangi        yay!
20:37 rangi        http://koha-na.org/index.php/Main_Page
20:38 rangi        http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-August/040434.html
20:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #101: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/101/
20:50 Brooke       o/
21:18 tcohen       back
21:23 tcohen       rangi,
21:23 rangi        yep?
21:23 wahanui      yep.
21:23 tcohen       http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/111/
21:23 rangi        yep
21:24 tcohen       there are no changes on git, but jenkins is triggering tasks
21:25 rangi        thats because the old untriggered one was still running when i made the change
21:25 tcohen       oh
21:25 rangi        when u14 finished, it triggered u12
21:25 tcohen       no problem then
21:25 rangi        it should sort itself out in the next hour or so i hope
21:25 rangi        ill keep an eye on it tho
21:25 tcohen       and u12 isn't polling git
21:25 rangi        not for master anyway
21:26 * tcohen     will try to make u14 succeed so the rest of the tests run :-P
21:27 rangi        what i will probably swithc it too
21:27 rangi        is run if unstable
21:27 rangi        (so if tests failing)
21:27 rangi        but dont run if build failed totally
21:28 rangi        if that makes sense?
21:28 * tcohen     hopes more memory makes things easier
21:28 tcohen       it makes sense
21:29 tcohen       we'll have to keep an eye on stuff that fails, and re-arrange
21:29 rangi        *nod*
21:29 tcohen       no problem for now
21:29 tcohen       maybe we could catch git fetching problems instead of plain tests errors
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21:37 tcohen       you have to be kidding
21:37 cait         are you grumpy with D7?
21:39 tcohen       no, is just that for some strange reason translatable-templates.t fails due to environmental problems
21:39 tcohen       non-deterministically :-D
21:39 tcohen       heh
21:40 cait         ok, we are grumpy with the test then :)
21:40 tcohen       yes
21:41 * tcohen     doesn't like things he cannot experimentally reproduce
21:41 tcohen       i'd like jenkins to be a useful tool
21:42 tcohen       if it reports stuff that doesn't matter, no one cares and we don't use it
21:42 rangi        yep
21:43 tcohen       cait: aren't you on vacation?
21:43 tcohen       go get some beer!
21:43 cait         so vacation means i have to get punished for something?
21:44 tcohen       ah, you don't drink beer?
21:44 cait         nope :)
21:44 tcohen       maybe you miss-behaved in previous lives
21:52 tcohen       is it possible that the branch information 'alt' on the OPAC is not working on bootstrap?
21:53 rangi        anything is possible
21:53 cait         alt? the html block from the branches page?
21:54 tcohen       yes
21:54 cait         hm i think there is a bug report
21:54 tcohen       the manual says it appears on the 'alt'
21:54 cait         hm it should be a tooltip
21:54 cait         javascript
21:54 wahanui      javascript is not super super evil.
21:55 cait         bug 12428
21:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
21:55 tcohen       that one
21:55 wahanui      hmmm... that one is down more often than up
21:56 tcohen       i wonder who might have pushed it
21:56 cait         yeah... this guy...
21:57 tcohen       oh
22:01 tcohen       i was able to reproduce the translatable-templates.t error
22:09 pastebot     "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi:" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/158
22:10 tcohen       if i export PERL5LIB=/srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D7, it works
22:10 tcohen       and the script is supposed to be doing that!
22:14 rangi        hmmm
22:14 rangi        tcohen: what if you ssh into the box, su to the jenkins user, and run the script in the workspace
22:15 rangi        its just a bash script
22:15 rangi        it might help you spot any odd thing happening
22:16 tcohen       yeah, same result
22:16 rangi        so for some reason the export isnt happening?
22:17 tcohen       just for that test :-D
22:17 tcohen       the test itself does a chdir
22:17 tcohen       http://snag.gy/2zejV.jpg
22:18 rangi        yeah its definitely not in the path
22:18 rangi        the INC path
22:19 tcohen       if I your, say, prove t/Charset.t it finds C4:::Charset
22:19 rangi        yeah it will
22:19 rangi        cos thats C4/Charset
22:19 rangi        relative to where it is
22:19 rangi        . is always in the path
22:19 rangi        its because you are chdir
22:19 rangi        ../ isnt in the path
22:20 rangi        does that make sense?
22:20 rangi        i suspect this
22:20 rangi        export PERL5LIB=$WORKSPACE
22:20 tcohen       it makes a lot of sense
22:20 rangi        isnt doing what we thing
22:20 rangi        think
22:20 tcohen       but if you read the + lines
22:20 tcohen       22:44:05 + export PERL5LIB=/srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D7
22:20 tcohen       22:44:05 + PERL5LIB=/srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D7
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22:21 rangi        hmmm interesting
22:21 wahanui      interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad
22:21 rangi        and yet its not in the path later
22:21 rangi        ie
22:21 tcohen       jenkins is cheating
22:21 rangi        @INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .
22:21 huginn       rangi: I suck
22:22 rangi        i wonder if the env is getting reset?
22:22 tcohen       yet TEST_QA is set
22:22 tcohen       or JUNIT_OUTPUT_FILE (which i added for the warning)
22:22 rangi        right
22:22 rangi        really weird
22:23 tcohen       and also, it worked fine
22:23 tcohen       what's changed?
22:23 tcohen       we're not in a new perl or smth
22:23 rangi        nope
22:23 tcohen       it is wheeze
22:23 tcohen       jenkins did change, it got updated
22:23 rangi        yep, but that should break everywhere
22:23 rangi        not just one node
22:24 tcohen       it fails in all/U14
22:25 rangi        ah ok
22:26 * tcohen     has no clue
22:27 rangi        it is weird
22:27 rangi        maybe try moving it out, into it's own prove call
22:27 rangi        without devel::cover
22:27 rangi        (cos taht doesnt make sense for the it anyway)
22:28 rangi        the other thing you could is
22:28 tcohen       maybe we can set PERL5LIB explicitly on jenkins
22:28 rangi        yeah
22:28 rangi        see in the configure
22:30 tcohen       "Bad gateway"
22:30 tcohen       jej
22:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #104: ABORTED in 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/104/
22:34 bag          BTW for git.koha-c everything looks like it's back up to normal and has the new memory footprint - but the console is showing we're still at step 4 of 6 - so it may reboot once more...  (I think the console just isn't reporting correctly - so it could be nothing)
22:35 eythian      hi
22:35 tcohen       hi eythian
22:35 bag          hey eythian
22:35 wahanui      it has been said that eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
22:36 tcohen       is there a way to make perl print @INC?
22:36 tcohen       like in perl --version
22:36 tcohen       (-V)
22:37 eythian      perl -e 'print @INC' ?
22:37 eythian      perl -e 'print "@INC"' would be better I think
22:38 rangi        bag: thanks
22:38 tcohen       exactly
22:38 rangi        tcohen: you could cheat
22:38 rangi        and in xt/author/translatable-templates.t
22:38 rangi        do
22:38 rangi        use lib '../../';
22:40 rangi        18000000/365
22:40 wahanui      49315.0684931507
22:40 tcohen       a lot of money
22:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #105: ABORTED in 9 min 32 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/105/
22:45 tcohen       ha, i was right
22:45 tcohen       http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11307656
22:46 eythian      > He then excitedly told an airport security guard and other passengers getting on his plane about the massive windfall before flying to Auckland to present his ticket.
22:46 eythian      > the man, who wants to remain anonymous,
22:47 tcohen       poor guy
22:47 tcohen       he doesn't know he needs to give me the money
22:47 tcohen       and end that erratic behaviour
22:48 eythian      so misguided
23:01 tcohen       is 'Sponsored-by: The Will to Procrastinate' valid for a patch?
23:02 eythian      I don't see why not
23:05 tcohen       @seen gmcharlt
23:05 huginn       tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> indradg: looks fine
23:05 tcohen       hmm
23:06 gmcharlt     tcohen: out now,but I'll be in channel tomorrow
23:06 tcohen       :-D
23:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #106: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/106/