Time  Nick          Message
23:57 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
23:57 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
23:57 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
23:57 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
23:56 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
23:56 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
23:28 mtompset      I had the same bad luck trying to answer the question using google too.
23:28 pianohacker   mtompset: and unfortunately I can't seem to find any helpful information on google
23:20 pianohacker   oh, lord. I don't, unfortunately
23:20 mtompset      could you check to see if the expirationdate is 0000-00-00? :)
23:20 mtompset      do you have any ancient koha database backups with opac_news?
23:19 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12167 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , datetime type casting issue regarding bug 7567
23:19 mtompset      Because someone was asking for me to take out a '0000-00-00' comparison on bug 12167, and using just NULLs does seem to work for my version of MySQL currently.
23:17 pianohacker   Hmm, there have been historical problems with NULL/0000-00-00 but I'm not sure of the cause or which versions were affected
23:15 mtompset      pianohacker: Greetings. Did MySQL historically not allow NULL as a Date? And if so, do you recall the version?
22:53 wnickc        pianohacker: thanks
22:52 pianohacker   wnickc: yes
22:50 wnickc        does the package command koha-upgrade-schema run updatedatabase.pl?
22:50 wnickc        hi all
22:27 * ashimema    ashimema_afk
22:27 ashimema      night all.. bed time for me
22:27 ashimema
22:00 ashimema      more than just my name in the list :)
22:00 ashimema      oh.. the stats are now starting to look interesting..
21:59 wnickc        ashimema++
21:58 ashimema      wnickc: now snadbox4 is up.. ack.. two typos later!
21:53 ashimema      got an error in updatedatabase.. bear with me.
21:52 ashimema      well.. sandbox 0, 1, 2 and 3 are up.. I take it back that 4 is..
21:52 ashimema      hmm..
21:51 wnickc        awesome, thank you!
21:51 ashimema      stupid typo in the apache virtual host conf
21:51 ashimema      wnickc: sandbox4 is back up..
21:50 ashimema      CPBrannon++
21:50 CPBrannon     Yay!  Tested my first patch from my VM!  I'm like a giddy little school girl!
21:48 ashimema      have a nice weekend tcohen
21:48 * ashimema    has just realised that the out of the box db's for the sandboxes all default to prog for the opac theme..
21:48 tcohen        bye #koha, nice weekend for every1
21:48 tcohen        asado tonight, have to leave to get all the stuff
21:47 tcohen        heh
21:47 ashimema      zebra is plain freaky
21:47 ashimema      http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-zebra.html was the last zebra doc I got into.. to try and work out how relevance works.
21:47 tcohen        i guess is some zebra trick
21:47 tcohen        ok, I trust you both so...
21:47 tcohen        http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#PQF
21:47 ashimema      I just kept getting advice from people until it worked
21:46 tcohen        :-D
21:46 ashimema      dcook got there in the end with that bug to be fair to him..
21:46 ashimema      erm.. i'm not actually sure
21:45 * tcohen      is reading the PQF grammar definition
21:45 tcohen        ashimema: where is the suppress parameter defined for PQF?
21:44 wnickc        1 bug down
21:39 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
21:39 wnickc        hopefully sign offs to follow
21:39 * mtompset    cheers, because it sounds good.
21:39 wnickc        kohana installfest now has several peopel with working git installs and git bz
21:39 wnickc        :)
21:34 ashimema      I'll take a quick look..
21:33 ashimema      wnickc: thanks for the notice about sandbox4
21:28 ashimema      no worries tcohen
21:23 tcohen        ashimema: thanks for signing
21:23 tcohen        hi
18:46 CPBrannon     :)
18:40 cait          :)
18:24 hbraum        tyvm
18:23 CPBrannon     hbraum: it's in there.  Last one in the intranet jquery section http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Hide_locations.2Fcopies_on_Staff_search_results
18:22 wnickc        ashimema: sandbox 4 seems to be out of comission
18:21 wahanui       sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
18:21 jcamins       sandboxes?
18:21 wnickc        is there a password available for the installer on the biblibre sandboxes?
18:14 * pianohacker waves
18:13 * cait        waves
18:06 CPBrannon     hbraum: I'll let you know when it is posted
18:05 hbraum        CPBrannon the jquery for how you changed your availability column on staff client
18:05 CPBrannon     hbraum: what was the code you wanted me to post?
18:03 tcohen        bye #koha
17:45 hbraum        CPBrannon we’ll see :)
17:44 CPBrannon     hbraum: when you gtet your box figured out, make a few more to make sure you have your method down.  :)
17:12 tcohen        it is needed
17:12 tcohen        (\@attr 9=20 \@attr 2=102|\@attr 2=102 \@attr 9=20) \@attr 4=6
17:11 jcamins       There are only two weights, but they can be in either order, right?
17:10 tcohen        jcamins: but I see $weight* have their contents swaped too
17:09 jcamins       Yes, that's why I have a grouping.
17:08 tcohen        the problem is that they are swapped too
17:07 jcamins       And no groupings in the variables.
17:07 jcamins       tcohen: I'd prefer: qr/\@or \@or $keyword_search "smith" ($weight1 "smith" $weight2 "smith"|$weight2 "smith" $weight1 "smith){2}/
17:01 pastebot      "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: this is what i was thinking of" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/151
16:58 hbraum        someone in our group answered the question already: it looksl ike if you use the saved searches at the bottom of the screen (like needs signed off), severity displays.
16:56 hbraum        good morning :) we’re starting our hackfest in Wenatchee (most of us are newbies), and looking at bugzilla, how do we get the severity column to display in the search results of bugzilla? One person here has the column displaying on his search, but the rest of us aren’t seeing it in our bugzilla accounts.
16:55 jcamins       tcohen: I'll think for a bit.
16:54 pastebot      "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: how would you name the these variables?" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150
16:22 ashimema      ouch.
16:22 ashimema      wow.. it's a 2644 line single file..
16:22 jcamins       rangi, maybe?
16:22 ashimema      who braught git bz to our attention?
16:21 jcamins       The reason we have the repo on git.k-c.org is not because anyone in the community maintains it, but because then it's easy to find.
16:21 ashimema      Well.. not git bz per say.. but there are other similar clients..
16:21 jcamins       If there's a branch of git bz that uses different APIs, there is no reason you couldn't use it.
16:20 ashimema      I'de really like to see us move to a git bz that used the proper api's
16:20 jcamins       That's what it should do, but it's less trouble to just use the carets than to read the git-bz code.
16:20 ashimema      assume it does it all in once connection.. rather than opening and closing connections ?
16:20 ashimema      I take it I'm wrong then..
16:20 ashimema      I thought attaching ranges basically just stepped through anyway..
16:19 jcamins       It would be nice.
16:19 ashimema      it's so much nicer doing it with one command
16:19 jcamins       Attaching ranges never really worked great IMO.
16:19 ashimema      :(..
16:19 ashimema      oh..
16:19 jcamins       Exactly.
16:19 ashimema      or do you do HEAD^^^^ followed by HEAD^^^ and then HEAD^^
16:18 jcamins       No, that attaches only one patch.
16:18 ashimema      is that not pretty much the same as commithash..HEAD
16:18 jcamins       Yeah. git-bz attach -e 12345 HEAD^^^^
16:18 ashimema      do you mean 'git bz attach -e 12345 ^^^HEAD'
16:17 ashimema      lots of ^?
16:17 ashimema      I 'think' it usually works for me if I'm only using one commit
16:17 jcamins       Lots of '^'s.
16:17 ashimema      I see..
16:17 ashimema      in that case.. I was attaching two patches.
16:17 jcamins       I just do every patch one at a time.
16:16 ashimema      I save changing the status for that last patch.. and it always blows up if you set the status at the same time.
16:16 ashimema      so say for instance 'git bz attach -e 12738 commithash..HEAD'
16:16 jcamins       ashimema: oh, I never attach more than one patch.
16:15 ashimema      it's when I do a multi-patch attach.
16:15 ashimema      so it's not out of date (like 30 minutes ago pulled)
16:15 ashimema      git-bz very recently pulled.
16:13 CPBrannon     Preparing for Hackfest!  :)
16:11 cait          like when you have to set another status first
16:11 cait          sometimes it explodes for me when i try to set a status that the bugzlla workflow settings don't allow
16:10 cait          or does passed qa work but signed off does not?
16:10 cait          ashimema: works for me :)
16:10 jcamins       ashimema: maybe your version of git-bz is out of date.
16:08 ashimema      I wish I could set signed-off status using git-bz.. never seem to work for me now days.
15:58 * ashimema    really doesnt like db dependant tests!
15:44 * ashimema    now runs tests as part of qa
15:43 ashimema      else I'll miss such failures during qa
15:42 ashimema      I may have to move my dev env to ubuntu to catch such tests in the future.
15:41 ashimema      yeah.. I think I follow now.
15:40 * tcohen      doesn't know how pre-5.18 behaves related to the hash seed
15:39 ashimema      I understand.
15:39 tcohen        if you run in on pre-5.18, each of the 4 run will return 'keyword', and thus not fail
15:39 ashimema      I though by forcing a random seed per run then we we're able to in effect mock the 5.18 behaviour in prior perls.
15:38 tcohen        ah
15:38 ashimema      hmm. I see.. i think I misundertsand your test.. will have another read..
15:38 tcohen        and the patch only makes a decision already made (fallback to 'keyword' search) explicit
15:38 tcohen        the test would fail on Perl 5.18
15:37 tcohen        when looping through what was read from the yaml file
15:37 tcohen        on a "truly" randomized perl hash context, QueryParser chooses the first it reads
15:37 ashimema      so.. when would your test fail then?
15:36 ashimema      i see..
15:36 tcohen        because of the way queryparser.yaml is crafted and then parsed, it always returned 'keyword' as the default search class
15:36 ashimema      ok.. will try wrapping my head around that
15:35 tcohen        i don't think so
15:35 ashimema      if I only apply the test patch against master on an old deb system (pre 5.18).. should the test fail?
15:34 tcohen        problems?
15:34 tcohen        ?
15:34 wahanui       tcohen is obsessed with automated testing :)
15:34 ashimema      tcohen..
15:34 ashimema      hmm.
15:28 tcohen        and it took me day and a half :-P
15:28 ashimema      bet it took ages to work out though.
15:28 tcohen        hell yeah
15:28 ashimema      damn that's a tiny patch to fix the problem tcohen.
15:25 mveron        hi cait :-)
15:25 mveron        bgkriegel: Thanks for testing!
15:25 * cait        waves to mveron :)
15:25 bgkriegel     mveron: Ok :)
15:24 tcohen        ;)
15:24 ashimema      I'll test your qp patch firth though ;)
15:24 ashimema      that's good news..  was about to dive in..
15:24 mveron        bgkriegel: Maybe i find time over the weekend.
15:24 ashimema      :)
15:24 tcohen        ashimema: it is an easy one :-)
15:23 bgkriegel     i'm willing to test it
15:23 ashimema      I've not got so far as to testing cgi stuff yet :
15:23 ashimema      tcohen.. any idea's who/whether I need to test a sub that just ends in a 'print $query->redirect'
15:22 bgkriegel     Do you plan to upload a new patch to 12705?
15:22 bgkriegel     hi :)
15:22 mveron        hi bkriegel
15:22 bgkriegel     mveron, around?
15:21 tcohen        yeah!
15:21 tcohen        heh
15:21 ashimema      :)
15:20 cait          yeah, people have stopped being scared and start working on the search code again :)
15:20 cait          :)
15:20 ashimema      me too.. feels like we're getting some real deal breaker fixed recently
15:19 ashimema      :)
15:15 * tcohen      feels this is a good way of finishing the week
15:13 ashimema      :)
15:13 tcohen        ashimema: done
15:03 ashimema      awesome
15:03 tcohen        i'm about to attach!
15:03 ashimema      mmm. breakfast.. that was far too long ago
15:03 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12738 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search behaviour inconsistent with QueryParser on Perl 5.18
15:03 ashimema      tcohen let me know when you throw patches at bug 12738 and i'll happily test them.. got the perfect setup for it now ;)
15:03 CPBrannon     heading out to breakfast.  Later #koha
15:02 mveron        Hi #koha
15:01 CPBrannon     don't worry cait - we'll learn ya
15:00 cait          that looks spelt wrong
15:00 cait          on closer inspection, little sheriff stars
15:00 CPBrannon     ;)
15:00 CPBrannon     she's not so flashy here
15:00 ashimema      little yellow stars.. shiny.
15:00 cait          so i was not sure what you meant, i am using pidgin
15:00 cait          for me it's little yellow stars :)
15:00 ashimema      basically an irc admin/moderator type person
14:59 cait          ok, first i'd have to figure out how to do that exactly
14:59 CPBrannon     okay - there is always something I don't know around here.
14:59 ashimema      op = operator  (i think)
14:59 cait          don't mess with me... i can kick people!
14:59 cait          ashimema: yeah ops i think :)
14:59 ashimema      magic super cait.
14:58 wahanui       op is the Original Poster, the person who started the discussion or asked the question.
14:58 CPBrannon     op?
14:58 CPBrannon     dunno - I see six users at the top of the nick list with @ in front.  And when you talk it is in front of your name.
14:58 ashimema      haha..
14:58 jcamins       (cait is an op)
14:58 jcamins       CPBrannon: phenomenal cosmic power!
14:57 cait          maybe your irc client?
14:57 cait          hm not used here i think
14:56 CPBrannon     hi @cait.  What's the @ for?
14:55 cait          hi CPBrannon
14:50 wnickc        thanks to everyone
14:49 wnickc        off to find food, be back soon
14:48 wnickc        yeah, I tried to get back to him, but I only had incomplete info
14:47 cait          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development#UTF-8_GBSD_-_23rd_July
14:47 cait          frido asked which to fix, but i think you all were asleep and now it's late friday afternoon here :)
14:47 cait          so maybe avoid that one
14:47 cait          hm biblibre number 6
14:46 ashimema      shout if they stop working.. in my tests they were fine.. but there's nothing like the stress test of a conference to break stuff ;)
14:46 cait          wnickc: i think one of the biblibre sandboxes is set so it's stuck on the utf-8 bug - might explain some of the problems
14:46 ashimema      :)
14:44 wnickc        ashimema++
14:44 cait          hmm
14:44 huginn        cait: Karma for "ptfs_europe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
14:44 cait          @karma ptfs_europe
14:44 huginn        cait: Karma for "ptfs-europe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
14:44 cait          @karma ptfs-europe
14:44 cait          ptfs-europe++ :)
14:44 cait          ashimema++
14:44 wnickc        pacific us time
14:43 wnickc        not started yet, 9am
14:43 wnickc        thnak you!
14:43 ashimema      hows the conferance going out there?
14:43 ashimema      sorted none the less
14:43 ashimema      was actually a git bz bug.
14:43 ashimema      wasn't anything to do with what I thought it was..
14:43 ashimema      I fixed them this morning..
14:43 ashimema      indeed..
14:42 wnickc        hooray!
14:42 wnickc        ashimema: the sandboxes are back?!?!
14:41 ashimema      damnit
14:41 wahanui       That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema
14:41 ashimema      awesome!
14:40 tcohen        ashimema: regression test ready :-D
14:40 ashimema      http://stackoverflow.com/questions/84932/how-do-i-get-the-full-path-to-a-perl-script-that-is-executing
14:40 ashimema      or at least.. I think that's how I did it a while back.
14:40 ashimema      my $dirname = dirname(__FILE__);
14:40 ashimema      use File::Basename;
14:36 tcohen        how do i get the location of a script from inside the script?
14:26 cait          ok
14:25 ashimema      that's what I meant.
14:25 ashimema      And.. whilst writing the tests I has stuff like 'use Data::Dumper' which cna now go ;)
14:25 ashimema      my last shibboleth patch.. adds unit tests.. I need to check whether the required Test::* dependancies are already in koha.. I forgot to..
14:24 ashimema      i'm even  more confused now cait.
14:24 * cait        blames her headache for not making sens
14:24 cait          you said you needed to check that and clean up debugging...
14:23 wahanui       somebody said cait was a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step
14:23 ashimema      huh cait?
14:23 ashimema      that almost sounds like a perl bug in itself.
14:23 ashimema      really odd that you can't get the expected behaviour..
14:22 ashimema      sounds fair..
14:22 tcohen        i'm thinking of forking with fixed PERL_HASH_SEED for each
14:21 cait          ashimema: i think we installed some packaces for shibboleth
14:21 tcohen        yeah, I cannot reproduce that expected behaviour
14:19 ashimema      distrib
14:19 ashimema      tcohen: from colin (he's palyed with this a fair bit i beleive): Each time you create a hash you should get a random seed.. so if your sub does a %hash = @array;  @x = keys %hash; The order of @x sould differ each time it is called (provided @array is big enough). The release docs suggests that modules should run tests repeatedly to ensure that sequence isnt predictable. I assume there are similar tests in the perl source
14:08 ashimema      so your looking to change 'PERL_HASH_SEED' during a script run.. between function calls. I see, and 'PERL_HASH_SEED' expects a binary value encoded hex string
14:03 ashimema      and tidy up the debuging cruft.. think I forgot to do that
14:03 ashimema      I must check whether my tests introduce any dependancies..
14:02 ashimema      that reminds me..
13:58 * tcohen      doesn't want to introduce a new dependency, like Hash::Util...
13:58 ashimema      brain is catching up...
13:57 ashimema      I see.. a different seed per call of the same function inside the same run of the script overall..
13:56 tcohen        and have different results
13:55 tcohen        i want to make same same function call inside the same "run"
13:55 ashimema      indeed..
13:55 tcohen        each time I run the test, a different seed is used
13:55 tcohen        ashimema: the question would be what is he calling iterations
13:54 ashimema      from Colin: there are tests in perl 5.18 for this to ensure that the seed is not repeated over successive iterations. Is his prob is he needs to emulate that on older perls?
13:54 tcohen        t/QueryParser.t tests the PQF driver behaviour
13:54 tcohen        and the bug i mentioned, which is related, but is not the same
13:53 tcohen        there are two problems: tests failing for the QueryParser PQF driver
13:52 ashimema      or is it that your trying to get the test to fail on an older perl that doesn't do the randomization.
13:51 ashimema      or were they inconsistently failing..
13:51 ashimema      I'm slightly confused.. I thought the tests were already failing due to this randomisation.
13:51 tcohen        it seems... I might need to mock keys, to make sure it is truly random inside the same run
13:49 ashimema      challenging.
13:45 tcohen        i need to randomize that between calls to the same method, so the non-determinism is reproduced inside the unit tests file
13:45 tcohen        the problem is that each ru nof a perl script shares the same hash seed
13:44 ashimema      may I be of any assistance?
13:44 ashimema      you have the fix.. awesome!
13:43 ashimema      didn't realise it hadn't acutally been opened yet!
13:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
13:43 tcohen        i have the fix, and am struggling to get a regression test for it
13:43 ashimema      wanted to point bug 10542 at it..
13:43 ashimema      tcohen that's the bug I was looking for only moments ago.
13:42 ashimema      oooh.
13:03 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12738 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search behaviour inconsistent with QueryParser on Perl 5.18
13:03 tcohen        bug 12738
12:48 ashimema      not sure i've caught everything in those tests yet.. feel free to scrutinise ;)
12:47 ashimema      Cheers.. hopefully the last two are up to scratch.. one being a fairly chunky re-factor.. and the second being the tests.
12:46 tcohen        nice job with the shibboleth patches
12:46 tcohen        hi ashimema
12:46 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.6°C (9:45 AM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
12:46 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:46 ashimema      morning tcohen
12:44 tcohen        morning
12:01 Viktor        Have a nice weekend folks! I'm heading afk now.
12:00 Viktor        Thanks cait - that sounds promising!
11:57 cait          Viktor: the new pootle has keyboard shortcuts - maybe take alook if that makes your life a littleeasier
11:57 cait          ashimema++
11:56 Viktor        cait - Useful indeed. What I like about poedit is good keyboard shortcuts and fast ways to browse for low hanging fruit.
11:55 Viktor        indradg by the way: when doing the CMS-patch will you work on auto creation of navigation for the pages too?
11:54 cait          i like the search options of poedit - so for making sure the same term was used everywhere in the beginning, that was quite useful
11:51 Viktor        Thanks cait - I'll probably have to learn to live with using Pootle then. But an email "keep out today" system sounds promising too.
11:49 cait          if i wanted tow rok on clean up, i have send an email to them in the past, to ot make changes until i reuploaded the files
11:49 cait          Viktor: it's nt perfect, but i usually stick with the online tool now that we are more translators involved
11:48 Viktor        (but overwriting the existing file with my offline might of course kill off progress others made online during the day)
11:47 Viktor        What's the most reasonable way to translate when you are multiple translators? I don't really like the online tool and prefer poedit...
11:35 cait          maybe
11:32 ashimema      matts_away has been away for a while.. wonder if he's on holiday
11:32 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
11:32 ashimema      @later tell matts_away Any chance you could take a look at the last two followups for bug 8446 pretty please.
10:57 huginn        bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 3.8°C (7:55 AM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
10:57 bgkriegel     @wunder cordoba, argentina
10:57 bgkriegel     morning
10:32 ashimema      I'd happily test if someone got round to it though ;)
10:32 ashimema      never gotten around to it..
10:32 ashimema      I've been tempted to do a proper patch fro koha as cms for years..
10:21 indradg       thanks cait :)
10:21 indradg       i'm wrapping the mceditor that we already have in place for other things like kohanews
10:21 Viktor        Yep. Not very clean at all...
10:20 indradg       I *hate* the idea of having to input the content via sys pref - (a) easy to mess up other things (b) allot userflag with lower perms to update these
10:20 Viktor        That would be very useful. I have no problem with pasting code, but an editor helps a _lot_ for most people.
10:20 cait          it would be nice if it was less 'hacky' - a lot of people seem to use or want to use it
10:19 cait          indradg: cool idea :)
10:19 Viktor        Great news indradg++
10:18 Viktor        I might bug you guys here on how to get a clean way to create nav tabs later.
10:18 indradg       i'm writing a plugin to give a koha news editor style interface for the CMS
10:17 Viktor        I like the CMS-functionality and would love to see it expanded. Was doing a little hack of my own to get tabbed navigation before the summer.
10:16 Viktor        Works like a charm :)
10:16 indradg       Viktor: things are working for you now?
10:16 * cait        waves back
10:16 cait          :)
10:15 Viktor        cait Yes I saw and got curious to try it out :) Thanks indradg!
10:15 * indradg     waves
10:14 cait          Viktor: indradg has updated the wiki page yesterday
10:13 cait          not sure i can follow - ubt i am glad you figured it out :)
10:12 Viktor        I copied the files to Home, edited them, saved and moved them to the rights dirs (all visually with nautilus and gedit). Then may have double checked the files and saved the .tt file back to home.
10:09 Viktor        Ok I'll have to confess for the logs: it was my fault Koha as CMS acted up.
10:06 Viktor        (messing around with stuff. My pages.tt might have been eaten)
10:06 cait          ptfs-europe++
10:06 cait          ashimema++
10:03 Viktor        And I wonder why the new files I created would make Templates.pm look for the wrong file path.
10:02 Viktor        No I waited with that.
10:02 ashimema      I've messed that up before ;)
10:02 ashimema      that may also be the issue..
10:01 ashimema      did you do the vhost alias bit..
10:01 Viktor        It might be my install that's messed up, but I've taken care to follow the updated instructions.
10:00 ashimema      it'll be in the code somewhere I reckon.
10:00 ashimema      ;)
10:00 Viktor        Escpecially since I'm running bootstrap
10:00 Viktor        Yep - wonder why.
10:00 ashimema      I reckon.
10:00 ashimema      should be opac-tmpl/prog
10:00 ashimema      opac-tmpl//prog
09:59 ashimema      you have a / too many in there..
09:57 Viktor        Weirdness with "Koha as cms". I get a "software error" template process failed: file error - /home/viktor/koha/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl//prog/en/modules/pages.tt: not found at /home/viktor/koha/C4/Templates.pl line 131
09:53 ashimema      I'll update the snadbox page on the wiki as I re-enable them all one by one.
09:53 ashimema      ptfs-europe sandboxes are back up and running..
09:53 ashimema      so.. what that means in the grand scheme..
09:53 ashimema      in fact.. then entire .gitconfig for each user of the system had gone.. (except for one).
09:53 Viktor        Yay.
09:52 ashimema      somehow the bz user details had dissapeared from the config..
09:52 ashimema      got the bugger.
09:48 Viktor        "as noob" - dyac
09:47 Viktor        ashimema As boom I'm not in any position to help with any git bz problems. But in my particular case the logs seems to suggest it was "git config bz.default-tracker bugs.koha-community.org" that finally settled it.
09:46 huginn        indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (2:50 PM IST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
09:46 indradg       @wunder kolkata
09:44 Viktor        I remember having that problem when first trying to get a working dev install ashimema - think you along with cait and magnuse helped me out.
08:58 wahanui       i already had it that way, ashimema.
08:58 ashimema      NameError: global name 'host' is not defined
08:58 ashimema      anyone seen this error with git bz
08:14 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
08:14 cait          @later tell nengard I think one of the sandboxes might still be reserved for testing the utf-8 bug
07:49 * cait        waves
07:39 wnickc        good night all
07:25 Viktor        Is there any "show borrowers remaining issue count" in sysprefs that I missed? Would be great to at a glance be able to confirm "Yes that was the last book on your account" when returning.
07:13 dcook         Have a good Friday/weekend, folks!
07:13 dcook         Friday night time!
06:54 ashimema      :)
06:50 wnickc        we are pushing sandboxes hard to the group so hopefully they will be well used
06:48 wnickc        ashimema++
06:47 ashimema      you've inspired me to take a look at the sandboxes again this morning now.
06:45 wnickc        but good luck
06:45 wnickc        ah...beyond my knowledge
06:45 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Shibboleth authentication patch
06:45 ashimema      I've recently been hitting bug 8446 hard instead.
06:44 ashimema      that's the challenge I'm facing.. multi-tenant sandboxes
06:44 ashimema      Our sandboxes are all hosted on one machines.. whereas the biblibre one's have a vm each I believe..
06:43 wnickc        see you in the morning cpbrannon
06:43 ashimema      there's something wrong with the server they're on and I've not found out what yet.
06:43 CPBrannon     goodnight #koha
06:43 ashimema      not ye I'm afraid.. had very little time to get back to them of late..
06:42 ashimema      plenty of users.. they just arent that good at talking to each other yet ;)
06:42 wnickc        ashimema: any progress on PTFS Europe sandboxes? Just curious
06:42 CPBrannon     Yep...it's been pretty good for being the first one too.
06:42 ashimema      we're getting there.
06:42 ashimema      I'm slowly trying to build up a decent users group in the UK at the moment.
06:42 CPBrannon     I hate acronyms :P
06:42 ashimema      take it that's an american one.. oh cool
06:41 wnickc        North America Koha Users Group
06:41 wnickc        NAKUG
06:41 CPBrannon     wnickc: schedule starts at 10am.  I may just come in at 9am again.  Because I can.
06:40 ashimema      how are peeps today. sounds like your all at a conferance?
06:40 wnickc        morning ashimema
06:40 CPBrannon     I'm calling it a night too.  See you in the morning wnickc.  I'll try and come in a bit early...if you are there, we can make some plans.  (cloaning - yep)  MY wifi is pretty darn good.  :)
06:40 ashimema      morning #koha
06:39 ashimema      gitbz++
06:39 wnickc        stupid hotel wifi
06:39 wnickc        cpbrannon: oh yeah, cloning git is not fast
06:37 cait          bbiab
06:37 cait          and now i need to go to work :)
06:37 cait          i am a very unhappy qam
06:37 cait          everytime an update breaks it
06:36 cait          super useful
06:35 dcook         So so useful
06:35 dcook         So useful too
06:35 dcook         Yeah, Git BZ is a pretty easy set up
06:34 wnickc        it's not a rough process, we can do in am prob
06:34 CPBrannon     I'm just kiddin you.  Yep.  I couldn't have gotten this far without you guys.
06:34 wnickc        cpbrannon: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Get_git-bz
06:33 dcook         Oh, it's just what I hear :p
06:33 CPBrannon     who?  ;)
06:33 dcook         for help*
06:33 dcook         Well, there are usually knowledgeable folks on here to help as well
06:32 CPBrannon     I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.  KH was pretty fast in the walkthrough.  I had to back him up a couple times, and I still don't think I got it all.  I'll have to go over my notes again and again and see what I can do.  I don't think I could convey half of what he shared though.
06:30 cait          i think - it's just a bit mean when you have lots of patches on a bug
06:30 cait          you can still do git-format
06:30 wnickc        it just makes life easier
06:30 wnickc        you can do it without bz, can give them bz as homework
06:29 CPBrannon     Really?  I just got gitify done.  Nope.  I haven't touched it yet.  Guess we'll have to do it on the fly.
06:28 CPBrannon     I won't know or understand the difference until I start doing stuff and cait tells me I am screwing something up.
06:27 wnickc        did you get gitbz up and running too?
06:27 wnickc        I think they will be fine, those who want to be advanced and compile from git can do so later
06:27 CPBrannon     wnickc: besides, it sounded like the issues were marginal (something to do with crons?) according to kh.
06:26 CPBrannon     wnickc: yes, I know...don't get me started.  No one can agree on a solid method.  But the packages are what I got working and that's what I'm going with if you throw it in my court.  :D
06:25 pianohacker   okay, I need to head towards bed. Good to see you all :)
06:24 wnickc        cpbrannon: I don't know, I think because of the whole back and for about to gitify or not to gitify
06:23 pianohacker   CPBrannon: yes, rancor is the not-secret codename :)
06:23 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
06:23 pianohacker   I think that was mentioned in the last QA round (maybe for bug 10486 instead)? The licenses are compatible, but I need to add them to the about page. My heart almost stopped before I figured out everything was GPL/MIT
06:22 CPBrannon     pianohacker: sorry for jumping in - is rancor the new cataloging module?
06:22 cait          i hope for you all your licenses are compatibel and libraries added to the about page :P
06:22 * cait        waves ;)
06:22 pianohacker   hi qam
06:22 * cait        votes for terrifying
06:21 pianohacker   I don't really write Perl anymore...
06:21 pianohacker   awesome and terrifying. I've been working on this for a long time!
06:20 CPBrannon     pianohacker: that's awesome.  :)
06:19 pianohacker   jeez. Not counting libraries and JS embedded in script tags, Rancor has 3/4 as much JS as the entire rest of the staff client (~3000 lines vs ~4000)
06:19 CPBrannon     wnickc: So, I'm thinking that the link bag gave me today (https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify) was the cleanest and most straight forward.  Why didn't I see that one first???
06:18 cait          dcook: thisis hopefully going to go away with dom at some point
06:18 cait          dcook: 880 could only be indexed in total, we divided the info up a bit on 9xx fields additionally, so we could index as author, title, etc
06:18 wnickc        or asking in here what koha might want us to look at
06:18 cait          dcook: don't wonder about the strange 9xx duplication - we do that in order to index better (with grs1)
06:18 dcook         pianohacker: good point
06:17 wnickc        cpbrannon:downtime can be used for searching for bugs we can reasonably handle
06:17 dcook         [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=30613 :D
06:17 cait          and open it directly in my editor, if i need to check something
06:17 cait          dcook: yeah it's hidden there - what i do is download the marcxml :)
06:17 dcook         marc*
06:17 * dcook       mangles the URL to view the mar
06:16 wnickc        they are, but not crazy amounts of time, and if we stagger folks it should give us the opportunity to float around
06:16 dcook         [off] cait: That's amazing
06:16 pianohacker   dcook: if MARC dies before rancor has been polished and used for a good long time I will be very sad
06:16 CPBrannon     wnickc:  Those loads are going to take time.
06:16 cait          ok
06:16 pianohacker   yes
06:16 pianohacker   aka it takes care of the linkage identifiers
06:16 cait          but you could manually enter now?
06:15 CPBrannon     wnickc: sorry, finger slipped.
06:15 pianohacker   cait: making linkage semi-automatic like connexion
06:15 CPBrannon     wnickc: um...yeah.  I'll fumble through what I managed.  So, I know folks are hopefully pre-loading debian, but what about when they start loading apache, mysql and koha?
06:15 cait          pianohacker: hm what do you mean by adding support?
06:15 * dcook       hopes MARC dies before that
06:15 cait          [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=30613
06:15 pianohacker   If rancor ever adds support, I will definitely be talking to people for examples. Thank you :)
06:15 CPBrannon     y start loading apache mysql and koha?  That's going to take some time.
06:14 cait          if you need examples
06:14 cait          we have lots of those
06:14 cait          oh 880
06:14 pianohacker   You can attach versions of fields in different scripts to almost anything, and there's all these semi-standards and different workflows around that linkage.
06:13 huginn        pianohacker: The fully content-designated representation, in a different script, of another field in the same record. Field 880 is linked to the associated regular field by subfield $6 (Linkage). The first and second indicator positions in field 880 have the same definition and values as the indicators in the associated field. The subfield codes in field 880 are the same as those defined in the associated field (1 more message)
06:13 pianohacker   @marc 880
06:13 pianohacker   like I only found out about 880 fields the other day!
06:13 cait          go to bed :)
06:13 dcook         Yep. It's the non-standard of standards.
06:13 cait          i know
06:13 pianohacker   every time I think I have alllll the weirdness pinned down, something new sticks its head out
06:13 dcook         marc--
06:13 pianohacker   marc--
06:12 pianohacker   dear lord. Wouldn't surprise me
06:12 wnickc        cpbrannon: awesome, this is why you get to lead tomorrow :)
06:12 cait          ah, i am not sure, maybe they ran out of numeric ones
06:12 dcook         Actually fairly impressed with Zebra. It's indexed nearly 635,000 authority records in about 2 hours
06:12 pianohacker   cait: I was curious why your union catalog has non-numeric indicators
06:12 cait          for rvk classification things
06:11 dcook         MARC--
06:11 dcook         Also...
06:11 * dcook       shrugs
06:11 cait          i ahve seen r v as indicators in ours
06:11 dcook         Yeah, I was thinking that might be added at indexing time...
06:11 cait          pianohacker: gah marc.
06:11 cait          so those get included in the records at indexing tiem to enhance search
06:11 pianohacker   oh yeah I'm thinking of 01e. Either way, GAH. MARC.
06:11 cait          dcook: yep - if you want to search for the see also - there is a pref for that
06:11 dcook         I think jcamins added "z" as an indicator 1 for certain authority-related stuff
06:10 cait          pianohacker: hm?
06:10 dcook         <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[(@tag=111 or @tag=711) and @ind1!='z']">
06:10 dcook         pianohacker: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl
06:10 dcook         Aha!
06:10 dcook         I thought there was only 01e :S
06:09 dcook         02d?
06:09 pianohacker   cait: but... why?
06:09 CPBrannon     wnickc: got the VM up and gitified
06:09 pianohacker   kk, cait, I'll make sure it does
06:09 pianohacker   that and crap like 02d
06:09 pianohacker   ah lord 9xx tags, the bane of my existence
06:09 CPBrannon     Glad you enjoyed it.  :)
06:09 cait          i thin ours are within a-z
06:08 wnickc        TMNT was awesome!
06:08 cait          pianohacker: woud be nice if rancor didn't freak out about it
06:08 CPBrannon     Ninja Turtles?
06:08 cait          pianohacker: 9xx tags - not sure if only in our union catalog or national
06:08 pianohacker   wat
06:08 pianohacker   just checking in real quick, long day and I didn't get in as early as I expected, impromptu movie night
06:08 dcook         pianohacker: If you look at the XSLT, I think you'll see the indicator with "z" in it
06:07 pianohacker   hi guys
06:07 huginn        pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
06:07 pianohacker   @later tell cait wait, what? what tags? and when?
06:07 dcook         CPBrannon: Sharing knowledge is always good :)
06:07 wahanui       somebody said pianohacker was a Dune fan, it seems.
06:07 dcook         hey pianohacker
06:07 CPBrannon     yo pianohacker
06:06 pianohacker   yo
06:05 CPBrannon     Now, I just have to help teach others in the morning.
06:05 dcook         Well done :)
06:04 CPBrannon     I did it! :)  (Happy Dance)
05:46 cait          haven't seen that yet i think
05:46 cait          hm
05:41 CPBrannon     So, I think the instance I have is just called koha.  When I tried creating koha1, it says Koha instance is empty, no staff user created.   ERROR: Site koha1 does not exist!
05:35 dcook         Man...packages are the best
05:34 mtj           # koha-remove koha2
05:34 mtj           # koha-remove koha1
05:34 mtj           # koha-create --create-db koha2
05:34 mtj           # koha-create --create-db koha1
05:34 mtj           CPBrannon:  just make a new one, to test...
05:33 CPBrannon     okay.  Think I got it.  :)
05:30 cait          ah right, also that :) sorry, i haven't been awkae for long enough yet
05:30 cait          i haven'tdone much with packages so far, but i think koha-list shoudl show you
05:30 dcook         CPBrannon: When you're creating it for the first time, you can choose the name
05:29 CPBrannon     cait: So I'm supposed to use the name of my instance in a command.  I'm not sure what my instance is actually called.
05:29 dcook         I have to move on to the next problem...
05:29 dcook         The only downside of having figured out a solution is that now I have less incentive to fix things for others :(
05:29 dcook         mtj: I don't think it's possible to get those behaviours at the moment. The documentation for the script says that -u will only do updates, but it's a lie
05:28 cait          so it might refer to doing someting like koha-create --create-db or similar
05:28 CPBrannon     thanks for translating.  :)
05:28 CPBrannon     ah
05:28 cait          one if them then would be an 'instance' :)
05:27 cait          you can have multiple kohas on one server running from the same code
05:27 CPBrannon     yes
05:27 cait          if you are using packages
05:27 CPBrannon     (hm)
05:25 mtj           CPBrannon: ^^
05:25 mtj           an instance is a koha
05:24 mtj           anyhoo.. i look later
05:24 CPBrannon     Anyone know what it means to "create your first koha instance"?  What is an instance?
05:24 mtj           hmm, is it possible to get those 2 behaviours, with the current script
05:23 mtj           ...add/update or update-only
05:19 mtj           i guess the script needs a few diff. modes
05:11 dcook         But the war of metadata management will not be solved today
05:11 dcook         Of course, if there is no match, I think it just gets added as a new authority, which is perhaps sub-optimal
05:10 dcook         :)
05:09 mtj           thanks dcook, ill take your advice
05:07 dcook         Bug report filed.
05:07 dcook         Technically, we should be doing a better job moving the 001 into the 035$a...but...I don't particularly care just right now :p
05:05 * dcook       would prefer consistent data, but it's not a huge problem
05:05 dcook         But it's ok, because the 001 will be populated with auth_header.authid when indexing
05:05 dcook         Also if you do an update, the 001 will get nuked :/
05:05 dcook         When you do an add, the 001 will be the same as auth_header.authid
05:04 dcook         I had to change the Zebra indexing to also index 035$a into Identifier-Standard, but it works a treat
05:04 dcook         I ended up using... bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file="blahblah.mrc" -match "Identifier-Standard,001" -keepids=035a
05:03 dcook         Oh yeah...mtj, I figured I'd share my latest bulkmarcimport.pl stuff with you
05:03 cait          morning:)
05:02 dcook         heya cait
05:02 dcook         Neat. I never knew about that trick.
04:59 cbrannon      just found it.  Thanks  :)
04:59 mtj           /msg nickserv INFO cbrannon
04:59 mtj           cbrannon:  you can ask the nicksrv bot
04:54 cbrannon      hmmm....says my name is registered.  Is there a way to look up who it is regestered to?
04:51 dcook         IRC can take some figuring, but it's pretty useful :)
04:51 dcook         They could pretend to be you, or...when you want to use it, you might not be able to because they're using it
04:51 cbrannon      Thanks.  Still figuring this all out.
04:51 dcook         If you don't register it, someone else could use it
04:51 dcook         But it's not a bad idea if you're on IRC a lot
04:50 dcook         Nope
04:50 dcook         Btw, if you want to communicate with NickServ, you'll need to message it like "/msg NickServ" (without the quotes)
04:50 cbrannon      question - do I have to register my nickname?
04:49 dcook         Cool\
04:49 * dcook       would listen to his advice
04:49 cbrannon      Just have to gitify it now.  Working on that.
04:49 dcook         If it helps, rangi is really good at what he does
04:49 dcook         Glad you got it running in the end
04:49 dcook         I imagine so
04:49 dcook         hehe
04:48 cbrannon      dcook: FINALLY got VM running. :) Although everyone has different opinions on packages and git.  :/
04:47 dcook         Hmm?
04:44 cbrannon      anyone home?
04:41 cbrannon      nickserv?
04:40 cbrannon      register
04:38 wahanui       rumour has it JesseM is new to the committers list (from yesterday)
04:38 cbrannon      JesseM?
04:38 wahanui       I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
04:38 cbrannon      NateC?
04:38 wahanui       it has been said that koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info
04:38 cbrannon      koha?
04:37 cbrannon      hello #koha
04:22 dcook         http://www.cbc.ca/thisisthat/blog/2013/11/20/town-in-montana-changes-its-name-to-banff-alberta-canada/
04:20 cbrannon      ugh
04:20 cbrannon      IDENTIFY
04:19 cbrannon      identify
04:15 cbrannon      hi #koha!
03:56 dcook         Hmm, I should go for a walk...
03:56 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (1:00 PM EST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Falling).
03:56 dcook         @wunder syd
03:55 eythian       I might leave my bike at work given I forgot my rain/cold gear.
03:55 huginn        indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0°C (9:20 AM IST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
03:55 indradg       @wunder kolkata
03:55 eythian       urf
03:53 rangi         apparently snow in newlands
03:53 rangi         that temp is dropping fast
03:53 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
03:53 rangi         @wunder nzwn
03:47 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage
03:47 indradg       bug 12735
03:15 dcook         Probably :/
03:12 eythian       It should say how many it would have done.
03:12 eythian       hrm, the linker, when run in test mode, says "0 bibs modified", which is correct but totally unhelpful.
02:57 eythian       and saying that it's doing things
02:57 eythian       it's good to watch link_bibs_to_authorities.pl working
02:49 vinz3g        now
02:49 vinz3g        jo jo change the permissions working
02:47 vinz3g        Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/XML/SAX/Expat.pm :(
02:42 vinz3g        ok, i tried
02:42 dcook         Then the database should be available and should return records
02:42 dcook         Add some records into Koha, then run this command: "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v  instancename"
02:41 dcook         As you mentioned running the commands from this page (http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/resetzebra.html), that doesn't surprise me
02:40 dcook         vinz3g: That probably means that nothing has been indexed
02:38 vinz3g        I still have the z39.50, achievement make the connection but it says the database is not available
02:27 eythian       ahh
02:27 dcook         But LoC and NLM give back 404 messages that are prefaced with a Yaz version
02:26 dcook         I was surprised too
02:25 eythian       I'm a little surprised that works, I guess dfeojm doesn't actually check to see if it speaks http
02:24 dcook         Neato
02:24 dcook         Hmm, I never thought about trying that
02:22 dcook         BobB: Sweet. Glad it's not just us then.
02:22 BobB          http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/z3950.librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au:210
02:20 BobB          dcook 'connection failed'
02:19 dcook         BobB: thanks :)
02:19 eythian       tcohen: :D
02:18 BobB          not that I am aware, hold on dcook, I'll test
02:18 dcook         hehe
02:18 tcohen        eythian: field 1000
02:18 dcook         My bad
02:18 dcook         Ah, I also read "one way of working" as "one day of working"
02:18 dcook         Ahhhh
02:18 eythian       well, they're moving from a non-MARC system to Koha, and have some custom fields etc. so I'm trying to fit them in to the most correct place in MARC that does what they want.
02:17 dcook         I'm getting time outs, so I'm thinking their server is down again
02:17 dcook         BobB: Are you having any problems with LibrariesAustralia Z39.50?
02:17 dcook         ?
02:14 eythian       It's always a little tricky
02:14 eythian       I'm currently trying to deal with the impedance mismatch of people who had one way of working, and trying to get as close to that as resonably possible with koha.
02:08 * dcook       shrugs
02:07 dcook         Of course that somewhat invalidates some of my ranting yesterday...
02:05 dcook         Which probably also distrupts too many expectations of how AddAuthority() currently works...
02:04 dcook         To be more in line with AddBiblio()...
02:04 dcook         But it would require changing AddAuthority()...
02:04 dcook         Potentially figured out a fix for bulkmarcimport.pl...which requires no fix to bulkmarcimport.pl...
02:03 dcook         Hmm..
01:57 dcook         Hmm, clearing up a bit at least..
01:57 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (11:30 AM EST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling).
01:57 dcook         @wunder syd
01:57 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 6.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
01:57 eythian       @wunder nzwn
01:47 dcook         If only we could travel extremely quickly and cheaply around the globe...
01:47 dcook         (Still glad I went to Kohacon13 though :P)
01:46 BobB          No choice!  :)
01:46 dcook         And I'm not making the mistake of going away during her birthday again :p
01:46 dcook         Well, my wife's birthday is also during that time
01:46 BobB          hmm, tough choice  :)
01:46 eythian       dcook: it's how we subtly market to you. You should consider catalyst for your Koha support needs ;)
01:46 dcook         Still, wish I could be there
01:46 dcook         hopping*
01:46 dcook         I'll be island hoping in Europe at the time, so don't feel too bad ;)
01:45 dcook         :)
01:45 BobB          will be happy to, sorry you can't grab one in person
01:45 tcohen        :-D
01:44 dcook         BobB will have to bring me back some ;)
01:43 * tcohen      hopes kohacon14's reach Australia :-D
01:41 dcook         Although apparently that one is broken :(
01:41 dcook         Also a Kohacon13 pen :D
01:40 dcook         Huzzah. Pen just ran out of ink, but found a new CatalystIT pen in my desk from Kohacon13 :D
01:37 tcohen        heh: https://www.change.org/petitions/change-org-don-t-allow-people-to-sign-up-with-other-peoples-email-addresses
01:09 vinz3g        that statement confuses me
01:09 vinz3g        esa instrucción me confunde
01:08 pastebot      "vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Uncomment the following entry" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/149
01:04 vinz3g        ok
01:01 eythian       maybe you uncommented the wrong part of your koha-conf.xml
01:01 eythian       that's talking about SRU, not Z39.50.
01:00 pastebot      "vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "<zs:explainResponse xmlns:zs="" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/148
01:00 vinz3g        this is what brings me the web connection when I write http://myadress.com:9999
00:58 vinz3g        hi <dcook>
00:31 vinz3g        Thank you! They are great little things that help solve problems
00:31 dcook         I'm glad it's working
00:31 dcook         haha
00:31 vinz3g        sorry
00:31 vinz3g        perdon
00:30 vinz3g        gracias! son las pequeñas grandes cosas que ayudan a resolver problemas
00:30 huginn        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
00:30 tcohen        @later tell jcamins Evergreen's QueryParser tests don't cover loading config from a file, I bet they would fail
00:29 vinz3g        now work z39.50
00:28 dcook         Those commands would wipe out your Zebra databases
00:28 dcook         Sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying
00:27 vinz3g        thanks the little things
00:27 vinz3g        jaaaaa
00:27 vinz3g        :(
00:27 vinz3g        http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/resetzebra.html
00:26 dcook         What do you mean other?
00:26 vinz3g        yeah
00:25 wahanui       i heard other was to add additional counts.
00:25 dcook         other?
00:25 vinz3g        I was using other
00:25 dcook         If you can't, then you probably need to open a port on your router or change a firewall rule
00:25 dcook         After you do that, I'd tried to access it locally (over tcp), and if that works, then try to access it externally
00:24 vinz3g        ok!
00:23 dcook         That should do the trick
00:23 dcook         koha-restart-zebra INSTANCENAME
00:23 dcook         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restart-zebra
00:23 dcook         Cool
00:23 vinz3g        yes
00:23 dcook         Ok, did you use the Debian packages?
00:22 vinz3g        My SO es Ubuntu
00:22 dcook         Did you use the Debian packages on Debian?
00:22 dcook         Well, how did you install Koha and on what operating system?
00:22 vinz3g        server
00:22 vinz3g        how restart zebra serve?
00:21 dcook         Uncomment the relevant sections, and then probably restart your Zebra server
00:21 dcook         That would be the place to do it
00:21 vinz3g        I tried config koha-conf.xml
00:20 vinz3g        to access externally
00:19 dcook         So that Koha can use it or so that you can access it externally?
00:18 dcook         vinz3g: How do you mean config?
00:17 vinz3g        Hi I need help for config z39.50 server
00:12 vinz3g        hi, good afternoon
00:11 tcohen        rangi
00:11 tcohen        hi rango
00:11 * rangi       goes for lunch
00:07 BobB          nice :)
00:07 rangi         thanks
00:07 BobB          I'll let you know what arrangements I make
00:06 rangi         sweet
00:06 BobB          rangi I arrive in Santiago at 11.05 and have your flight out
00:04 rangi         then leave at even
00:04 BobB          let me check ...
00:04 rangi         i land at 12.35 and the leave and 21.15
00:03 BobB          not enough to do much
00:03 rangi         i only have 4 hours on way back
00:03 rangi         ahh cool
00:03 BobB          I have a full day there on the way back, so will take a tour then
00:02 rangi         yep, wlg->akl->santiago->cordoba
00:02 rangi         i was gonna investigate if they having anything like singapore where you can get a little tour
00:02 BobB          my flight is direct from Sydney; I guess you fly from Auckland?
00:02 BobB          I'll get hotel room at the airport
00:01 rangi         yeah ditto
00:01 BobB          I get into Santiago late morning and have about 10 hours layover
00:01 BobB          hi rangi, you are on the flight from Santiago?
00:00 rangi         im flying LAN (via qantas)
00:00 rangi         i suspect we are on the same flight for at least one leg of our journeys