Time Nick Message 00:00 rangi i suspect we are on the same flight for at least one leg of our journeys 00:00 rangi im flying LAN (via qantas) 00:01 BobB hi rangi, you are on the flight from Santiago? 00:01 BobB I get into Santiago late morning and have about 10 hours layover 00:01 rangi yeah ditto 00:02 BobB I'll get hotel room at the airport 00:02 BobB my flight is direct from Sydney; I guess you fly from Auckland? 00:02 rangi i was gonna investigate if they having anything like singapore where you can get a little tour 00:02 rangi yep, wlg->akl->santiago->cordoba 00:03 BobB I have a full day there on the way back, so will take a tour then 00:03 rangi ahh cool 00:03 rangi i only have 4 hours on way back 00:03 BobB not enough to do much 00:04 rangi i land at 12.35 and the leave and 21.15 00:04 BobB let me check ... 00:04 rangi then leave at even 00:06 BobB rangi I arrive in Santiago at 11.05 and have your flight out 00:06 rangi sweet 00:07 BobB I'll let you know what arrangements I make 00:07 rangi thanks 00:07 BobB nice :) 00:11 * rangi goes for lunch 00:11 tcohen hi rango 00:11 tcohen rangi 00:12 vinz3g hi, good afternoon 00:17 vinz3g Hi I need help for config z39.50 server 00:18 dcook vinz3g: How do you mean config? 00:19 dcook So that Koha can use it or so that you can access it externally? 00:20 vinz3g to access externally 00:21 vinz3g I tried config koha-conf.xml 00:21 dcook That would be the place to do it 00:21 dcook Uncomment the relevant sections, and then probably restart your Zebra server 00:22 vinz3g how restart zebra serve? 00:22 vinz3g server 00:22 dcook Well, how did you install Koha and on what operating system? 00:22 dcook Did you use the Debian packages on Debian? 00:22 vinz3g My SO es Ubuntu 00:23 dcook Ok, did you use the Debian packages? 00:23 vinz3g yes 00:23 dcook Cool 00:23 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restart-zebra 00:23 dcook koha-restart-zebra INSTANCENAME 00:23 dcook That should do the trick 00:24 vinz3g ok! 00:25 dcook After you do that, I'd tried to access it locally (over tcp), and if that works, then try to access it externally 00:25 dcook If you can't, then you probably need to open a port on your router or change a firewall rule 00:25 vinz3g I was using other 00:25 dcook other? 00:25 wahanui i heard other was to add additional counts. 00:26 vinz3g yeah 00:26 dcook What do you mean other? 00:27 vinz3g http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/resetzebra.html 00:27 vinz3g :( 00:27 vinz3g jaaaaa 00:27 vinz3g thanks the little things 00:28 dcook Sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying 00:28 dcook Those commands would wipe out your Zebra databases 00:29 vinz3g now work z39.50 00:30 tcohen @later tell jcamins Evergreen's QueryParser tests don't cover loading config from a file, I bet they would fail 00:30 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 00:30 vinz3g gracias! son las pequeñas grandes cosas que ayudan a resolver problemas 00:31 vinz3g perdon 00:31 vinz3g sorry 00:31 dcook haha 00:31 dcook I'm glad it's working 00:31 vinz3g Thank you! They are great little things that help solve problems 00:58 vinz3g hi <dcook> 01:00 vinz3g this is what brings me the web connection when I write http://myadress.com:9999 01:00 pastebot "vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "<zs:explainResponse xmlns:zs="" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/148 01:01 eythian that's talking about SRU, not Z39.50. 01:01 eythian maybe you uncommented the wrong part of your koha-conf.xml 01:04 vinz3g ok 01:08 pastebot "vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Uncomment the following entry" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/149 01:09 vinz3g esa instrucción me confunde 01:09 vinz3g that statement confuses me 01:37 tcohen heh: https://www.change.org/petitions/change-org-don-t-allow-people-to-sign-up-with-other-peoples-email-addresses 01:40 dcook Huzzah. Pen just ran out of ink, but found a new CatalystIT pen in my desk from Kohacon13 :D 01:41 dcook Also a Kohacon13 pen :D 01:41 dcook Although apparently that one is broken :( 01:43 * tcohen hopes kohacon14's reach Australia :-D 01:44 dcook BobB will have to bring me back some ;) 01:45 tcohen :-D 01:45 BobB will be happy to, sorry you can't grab one in person 01:45 dcook :) 01:46 dcook I'll be island hoping in Europe at the time, so don't feel too bad ;) 01:46 dcook hopping* 01:46 dcook Still, wish I could be there 01:46 eythian dcook: it's how we subtly market to you. You should consider catalyst for your Koha support needs ;) 01:46 BobB hmm, tough choice :) 01:46 dcook Well, my wife's birthday is also during that time 01:46 dcook And I'm not making the mistake of going away during her birthday again :p 01:46 BobB No choice! :) 01:47 dcook (Still glad I went to Kohacon13 though :P) 01:47 dcook If only we could travel extremely quickly and cheaply around the globe... 01:57 eythian @wunder nzwn 01:57 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 6.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 01:57 dcook @wunder syd 01:57 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (11:30 AM EST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling). 01:57 dcook Hmm, clearing up a bit at least.. 02:03 dcook Hmm.. 02:04 dcook Potentially figured out a fix for bulkmarcimport.pl...which requires no fix to bulkmarcimport.pl... 02:04 dcook But it would require changing AddAuthority()... 02:04 dcook To be more in line with AddBiblio()... 02:05 dcook Which probably also distrupts too many expectations of how AddAuthority() currently works... 02:07 dcook Of course that somewhat invalidates some of my ranting yesterday... 02:08 * dcook shrugs 02:14 eythian I'm currently trying to deal with the impedance mismatch of people who had one way of working, and trying to get as close to that as resonably possible with koha. 02:14 eythian It's always a little tricky 02:17 dcook ? 02:17 dcook BobB: Are you having any problems with LibrariesAustralia Z39.50? 02:17 dcook I'm getting time outs, so I'm thinking their server is down again 02:18 eythian well, they're moving from a non-MARC system to Koha, and have some custom fields etc. so I'm trying to fit them in to the most correct place in MARC that does what they want. 02:18 dcook Ahhhh 02:18 dcook Ah, I also read "one way of working" as "one day of working" 02:18 dcook My bad 02:18 tcohen eythian: field 1000 02:18 dcook hehe 02:18 BobB not that I am aware, hold on dcook, I'll test 02:19 eythian tcohen: :D 02:19 dcook BobB: thanks :) 02:20 BobB dcook 'connection failed' 02:22 BobB http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/z3950.librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au:210 02:22 dcook BobB: Sweet. Glad it's not just us then. 02:24 dcook Hmm, I never thought about trying that 02:24 dcook Neato 02:25 eythian I'm a little surprised that works, I guess dfeojm doesn't actually check to see if it speaks http 02:26 dcook I was surprised too 02:27 dcook But LoC and NLM give back 404 messages that are prefaced with a Yaz version 02:27 eythian ahh 02:38 vinz3g I still have the z39.50, achievement make the connection but it says the database is not available 02:40 dcook vinz3g: That probably means that nothing has been indexed 02:41 dcook As you mentioned running the commands from this page (http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/resetzebra.html), that doesn't surprise me 02:42 dcook Add some records into Koha, then run this command: "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instancename" 02:42 dcook Then the database should be available and should return records 02:42 vinz3g ok, i tried 02:47 vinz3g Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/XML/SAX/Expat.pm :( 02:49 vinz3g jo jo change the permissions working 02:49 vinz3g now 02:57 eythian it's good to watch link_bibs_to_authorities.pl working 02:57 eythian and saying that it's doing things 03:12 eythian hrm, the linker, when run in test mode, says "0 bibs modified", which is correct but totally unhelpful. 03:12 eythian It should say how many it would have done. 03:15 dcook Probably :/ 03:47 indradg bug 12735 03:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage 03:53 rangi @wunder nzwn 03:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 03:53 rangi that temp is dropping fast 03:53 rangi apparently snow in newlands 03:55 eythian urf 03:55 indradg @wunder kolkata 03:55 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0°C (9:20 AM IST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 03:55 eythian I might leave my bike at work given I forgot my rain/cold gear. 03:56 dcook @wunder syd 03:56 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (1:00 PM EST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Falling). 03:56 dcook Hmm, I should go for a walk... 04:15 cbrannon hi #koha! 04:19 cbrannon identify 04:20 cbrannon IDENTIFY 04:20 cbrannon ugh 04:22 dcook http://www.cbc.ca/thisisthat/blog/2013/11/20/town-in-montana-changes-its-name-to-banff-alberta-canada/ 04:37 cbrannon hello #koha 04:38 cbrannon koha? 04:38 wahanui it has been said that koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info 04:38 cbrannon NateC? 04:38 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 04:38 cbrannon JesseM? 04:38 wahanui rumour has it JesseM is new to the committers list (from yesterday) 04:40 cbrannon register 04:41 cbrannon nickserv? 04:44 cbrannon anyone home? 04:47 dcook Hmm? 04:48 cbrannon dcook: FINALLY got VM running. :) Although everyone has different opinions on packages and git. :/ 04:49 dcook hehe 04:49 dcook I imagine so 04:49 dcook Glad you got it running in the end 04:49 dcook If it helps, rangi is really good at what he does 04:49 cbrannon Just have to gitify it now. Working on that. 04:49 * dcook would listen to his advice 04:49 dcook Cool\ 04:50 cbrannon question - do I have to register my nickname? 04:50 dcook Btw, if you want to communicate with NickServ, you'll need to message it like "/msg NickServ" (without the quotes) 04:50 dcook Nope 04:51 dcook But it's not a bad idea if you're on IRC a lot 04:51 dcook If you don't register it, someone else could use it 04:51 cbrannon Thanks. Still figuring this all out. 04:51 dcook They could pretend to be you, or...when you want to use it, you might not be able to because they're using it 04:51 dcook IRC can take some figuring, but it's pretty useful :) 04:54 cbrannon hmmm....says my name is registered. Is there a way to look up who it is regestered to? 04:59 mtj cbrannon: you can ask the nicksrv bot 04:59 mtj /msg nickserv INFO cbrannon 04:59 cbrannon just found it. Thanks :) 05:02 dcook Neat. I never knew about that trick. 05:02 dcook heya cait 05:03 cait morning:) 05:03 dcook Oh yeah...mtj, I figured I'd share my latest bulkmarcimport.pl stuff with you 05:04 dcook I ended up using... bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file="blahblah.mrc" -match "Identifier-Standard,001" -keepids=035a 05:04 dcook I had to change the Zebra indexing to also index 035$a into Identifier-Standard, but it works a treat 05:05 dcook When you do an add, the 001 will be the same as auth_header.authid 05:05 dcook Also if you do an update, the 001 will get nuked :/ 05:05 dcook But it's ok, because the 001 will be populated with auth_header.authid when indexing 05:05 * dcook would prefer consistent data, but it's not a huge problem 05:07 dcook Technically, we should be doing a better job moving the 001 into the 035$a...but...I don't particularly care just right now :p 05:07 dcook Bug report filed. 05:09 mtj thanks dcook, ill take your advice 05:10 dcook :) 05:11 dcook Of course, if there is no match, I think it just gets added as a new authority, which is perhaps sub-optimal 05:11 dcook But the war of metadata management will not be solved today 05:19 mtj i guess the script needs a few diff. modes 05:23 mtj ...add/update or update-only 05:24 mtj hmm, is it possible to get those 2 behaviours, with the current script 05:24 CPBrannon Anyone know what it means to "create your first koha instance"? What is an instance? 05:24 mtj anyhoo.. i look later 05:25 mtj an instance is a koha 05:25 mtj CPBrannon: ^^ 05:27 CPBrannon (hm) 05:27 cait if you are using packages 05:27 CPBrannon yes 05:27 cait you can have multiple kohas on one server running from the same code 05:28 cait one if them then would be an 'instance' :) 05:28 CPBrannon ah 05:28 CPBrannon thanks for translating. :) 05:28 cait so it might refer to doing someting like koha-create --create-db or similar 05:29 dcook mtj: I don't think it's possible to get those behaviours at the moment. The documentation for the script says that -u will only do updates, but it's a lie 05:29 dcook The only downside of having figured out a solution is that now I have less incentive to fix things for others :( 05:29 dcook I have to move on to the next problem... 05:29 CPBrannon cait: So I'm supposed to use the name of my instance in a command. I'm not sure what my instance is actually called. 05:30 dcook CPBrannon: When you're creating it for the first time, you can choose the name 05:30 cait i haven'tdone much with packages so far, but i think koha-list shoudl show you 05:30 cait ah right, also that :) sorry, i haven't been awkae for long enough yet 05:33 CPBrannon okay. Think I got it. :) 05:34 mtj CPBrannon: just make a new one, to test... 05:34 mtj # koha-create --create-db koha1 05:34 mtj # koha-create --create-db koha2 05:34 mtj # koha-remove koha1 05:34 mtj # koha-remove koha2 05:35 dcook Man...packages are the best 05:41 CPBrannon So, I think the instance I have is just called koha. When I tried creating koha1, it says Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. ERROR: Site koha1 does not exist! 05:46 cait hm 05:46 cait haven't seen that yet i think 06:04 CPBrannon I did it! :) (Happy Dance) 06:05 dcook Well done :) 06:05 CPBrannon Now, I just have to help teach others in the morning. 06:06 pianohacker yo 06:07 CPBrannon yo pianohacker 06:07 dcook hey pianohacker 06:07 wahanui somebody said pianohacker was a Dune fan, it seems. 06:07 dcook CPBrannon: Sharing knowledge is always good :) 06:07 pianohacker @later tell cait wait, what? what tags? and when? 06:07 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 06:07 pianohacker hi guys 06:08 dcook pianohacker: If you look at the XSLT, I think you'll see the indicator with "z" in it 06:08 pianohacker just checking in real quick, long day and I didn't get in as early as I expected, impromptu movie night 06:08 pianohacker wat 06:08 cait pianohacker: 9xx tags - not sure if only in our union catalog or national 06:08 CPBrannon Ninja Turtles? 06:08 cait pianohacker: woud be nice if rancor didn't freak out about it 06:08 wnickc TMNT was awesome! 06:09 cait i thin ours are within a-z 06:09 CPBrannon Glad you enjoyed it. :) 06:09 pianohacker ah lord 9xx tags, the bane of my existence 06:09 pianohacker that and crap like 02d 06:09 pianohacker kk, cait, I'll make sure it does 06:09 CPBrannon wnickc: got the VM up and gitified 06:09 pianohacker cait: but... why? 06:09 dcook 02d? 06:10 dcook I thought there was only 01e :S 06:10 dcook Aha! 06:10 dcook pianohacker: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 06:10 dcook <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[(@tag=111 or @tag=711) and @ind1!='z']"> 06:10 cait pianohacker: hm? 06:11 dcook I think jcamins added "z" as an indicator 1 for certain authority-related stuff 06:11 cait dcook: yep - if you want to search for the see also - there is a pref for that 06:11 pianohacker oh yeah I'm thinking of 01e. Either way, GAH. MARC. 06:11 cait so those get included in the records at indexing tiem to enhance search 06:11 cait pianohacker: gah marc. 06:11 dcook Yeah, I was thinking that might be added at indexing time... 06:11 cait i ahve seen r v as indicators in ours 06:11 * dcook shrugs 06:11 dcook Also... 06:11 dcook MARC-- 06:12 cait for rvk classification things 06:12 pianohacker cait: I was curious why your union catalog has non-numeric indicators 06:12 dcook Actually fairly impressed with Zebra. It's indexed nearly 635,000 authority records in about 2 hours 06:12 cait ah, i am not sure, maybe they ran out of numeric ones 06:12 wnickc cpbrannon: awesome, this is why you get to lead tomorrow :) 06:12 pianohacker dear lord. Wouldn't surprise me 06:13 pianohacker marc-- 06:13 dcook marc-- 06:13 pianohacker every time I think I have alllll the weirdness pinned down, something new sticks its head out 06:13 cait i know 06:13 dcook Yep. It's the non-standard of standards. 06:13 cait go to bed :) 06:13 pianohacker like I only found out about 880 fields the other day! 06:13 pianohacker @marc 880 06:13 huginn pianohacker: The fully content-designated representation, in a different script, of another field in the same record. Field 880 is linked to the associated regular field by subfield $6 (Linkage). The first and second indicator positions in field 880 have the same definition and values as the indicators in the associated field. The subfield codes in field 880 are the same as those defined in the associated field (1 more message) 06:14 pianohacker You can attach versions of fields in different scripts to almost anything, and there's all these semi-standards and different workflows around that linkage. 06:14 cait oh 880 06:14 cait we have lots of those 06:14 cait if you need examples 06:15 CPBrannon y start loading apache mysql and koha? That's going to take some time. 06:15 pianohacker If rancor ever adds support, I will definitely be talking to people for examples. Thank you :) 06:15 cait [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=30613 06:15 * dcook hopes MARC dies before that 06:15 cait pianohacker: hm what do you mean by adding support? 06:15 CPBrannon wnickc: um...yeah. I'll fumble through what I managed. So, I know folks are hopefully pre-loading debian, but what about when they start loading apache, mysql and koha? 06:15 pianohacker cait: making linkage semi-automatic like connexion 06:15 CPBrannon wnickc: sorry, finger slipped. 06:16 cait but you could manually enter now? 06:16 pianohacker aka it takes care of the linkage identifiers 06:16 pianohacker yes 06:16 cait ok 06:16 CPBrannon wnickc: Those loads are going to take time. 06:16 pianohacker dcook: if MARC dies before rancor has been polished and used for a good long time I will be very sad 06:16 dcook [off] cait: That's amazing 06:16 wnickc they are, but not crazy amounts of time, and if we stagger folks it should give us the opportunity to float around 06:17 * dcook mangles the URL to view the mar 06:17 dcook marc* 06:17 cait dcook: yeah it's hidden there - what i do is download the marcxml :) 06:17 cait and open it directly in my editor, if i need to check something 06:17 dcook [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=30613 :D 06:17 wnickc cpbrannon:downtime can be used for searching for bugs we can reasonably handle 06:18 dcook pianohacker: good point 06:18 cait dcook: don't wonder about the strange 9xx duplication - we do that in order to index better (with grs1) 06:18 wnickc or asking in here what koha might want us to look at 06:18 cait dcook: 880 could only be indexed in total, we divided the info up a bit on 9xx fields additionally, so we could index as author, title, etc 06:18 cait dcook: thisis hopefully going to go away with dom at some point 06:19 CPBrannon wnickc: So, I'm thinking that the link bag gave me today (https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify) was the cleanest and most straight forward. Why didn't I see that one first??? 06:19 pianohacker jeez. Not counting libraries and JS embedded in script tags, Rancor has 3/4 as much JS as the entire rest of the staff client (~3000 lines vs ~4000) 06:20 CPBrannon pianohacker: that's awesome. :) 06:21 pianohacker awesome and terrifying. I've been working on this for a long time! 06:21 pianohacker I don't really write Perl anymore... 06:22 * cait votes for terrifying 06:22 pianohacker hi qam 06:22 * cait waves ;) 06:22 cait i hope for you all your licenses are compatibel and libraries added to the about page :P 06:22 CPBrannon pianohacker: sorry for jumping in - is rancor the new cataloging module? 06:23 pianohacker I think that was mentioned in the last QA round (maybe for bug 10486 instead)? The licenses are compatible, but I need to add them to the about page. My heart almost stopped before I figured out everything was GPL/MIT 06:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC 06:23 pianohacker CPBrannon: yes, rancor is the not-secret codename :) 06:24 wnickc cpbrannon: I don't know, I think because of the whole back and for about to gitify or not to gitify 06:25 pianohacker okay, I need to head towards bed. Good to see you all :) 06:26 CPBrannon wnickc: yes, I know...don't get me started. No one can agree on a solid method. But the packages are what I got working and that's what I'm going with if you throw it in my court. :D 06:27 CPBrannon wnickc: besides, it sounded like the issues were marginal (something to do with crons?) according to kh. 06:27 wnickc I think they will be fine, those who want to be advanced and compile from git can do so later 06:27 wnickc did you get gitbz up and running too? 06:28 CPBrannon I won't know or understand the difference until I start doing stuff and cait tells me I am screwing something up. 06:29 CPBrannon Really? I just got gitify done. Nope. I haven't touched it yet. Guess we'll have to do it on the fly. 06:30 wnickc you can do it without bz, can give them bz as homework 06:30 wnickc it just makes life easier 06:30 cait you can still do git-format 06:30 cait i think - it's just a bit mean when you have lots of patches on a bug 06:32 CPBrannon I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. KH was pretty fast in the walkthrough. I had to back him up a couple times, and I still don't think I got it all. I'll have to go over my notes again and again and see what I can do. I don't think I could convey half of what he shared though. 06:33 dcook Well, there are usually knowledgeable folks on here to help as well 06:33 dcook for help* 06:33 CPBrannon who? ;) 06:33 dcook Oh, it's just what I hear :p 06:34 wnickc cpbrannon: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Get_git-bz 06:34 CPBrannon I'm just kiddin you. Yep. I couldn't have gotten this far without you guys. 06:34 wnickc it's not a rough process, we can do in am prob 06:35 dcook Yeah, Git BZ is a pretty easy set up 06:35 dcook So useful too 06:35 dcook So so useful 06:36 cait super useful 06:37 cait everytime an update breaks it 06:37 cait i am a very unhappy qam 06:37 cait and now i need to go to work :) 06:37 cait bbiab 06:39 wnickc cpbrannon: oh yeah, cloning git is not fast 06:39 wnickc stupid hotel wifi 06:39 ashimema gitbz++ 06:40 ashimema morning #koha 06:40 CPBrannon I'm calling it a night too. See you in the morning wnickc. I'll try and come in a bit early...if you are there, we can make some plans. (cloaning - yep) MY wifi is pretty darn good. :) 06:40 wnickc morning ashimema 06:40 ashimema how are peeps today. sounds like your all at a conferance? 06:41 CPBrannon wnickc: schedule starts at 10am. I may just come in at 9am again. Because I can. 06:41 wnickc NAKUG 06:41 wnickc North America Koha Users Group 06:42 ashimema take it that's an american one.. oh cool 06:42 CPBrannon I hate acronyms :P 06:42 ashimema I'm slowly trying to build up a decent users group in the UK at the moment. 06:42 ashimema we're getting there. 06:42 CPBrannon Yep...it's been pretty good for being the first one too. 06:42 wnickc ashimema: any progress on PTFS Europe sandboxes? Just curious 06:42 ashimema plenty of users.. they just arent that good at talking to each other yet ;) 06:43 ashimema not ye I'm afraid.. had very little time to get back to them of late.. 06:43 CPBrannon goodnight #koha 06:43 ashimema there's something wrong with the server they're on and I've not found out what yet. 06:43 wnickc see you in the morning cpbrannon 06:44 ashimema Our sandboxes are all hosted on one machines.. whereas the biblibre one's have a vm each I believe.. 06:44 ashimema that's the challenge I'm facing.. multi-tenant sandboxes 06:45 ashimema I've recently been hitting bug 8446 hard instead. 06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Shibboleth authentication patch 06:45 wnickc ah...beyond my knowledge 06:45 wnickc but good luck 06:47 ashimema you've inspired me to take a look at the sandboxes again this morning now. 06:48 wnickc ashimema++ 06:50 wnickc we are pushing sandboxes hard to the group so hopefully they will be well used 06:54 ashimema :) 07:13 dcook Friday night time! 07:13 dcook Have a good Friday/weekend, folks! 07:25 Viktor Is there any "show borrowers remaining issue count" in sysprefs that I missed? Would be great to at a glance be able to confirm "Yes that was the last book on your account" when returning. 07:39 wnickc good night all 07:49 * cait waves 08:14 cait @later tell nengard I think one of the sandboxes might still be reserved for testing the utf-8 bug 08:14 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:58 ashimema anyone seen this error with git bz 08:58 ashimema NameError: global name 'host' is not defined 08:58 wahanui i already had it that way, ashimema. 09:44 Viktor I remember having that problem when first trying to get a working dev install ashimema - think you along with cait and magnuse helped me out. 09:46 indradg @wunder kolkata 09:46 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (2:50 PM IST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 09:47 Viktor ashimema As boom I'm not in any position to help with any git bz problems. But in my particular case the logs seems to suggest it was "git config bz.default-tracker bugs.koha-community.org" that finally settled it. 09:48 Viktor "as noob" - dyac 09:52 ashimema got the bugger. 09:52 ashimema somehow the bz user details had dissapeared from the config.. 09:53 Viktor Yay. 09:53 ashimema in fact.. then entire .gitconfig for each user of the system had gone.. (except for one). 09:53 ashimema so.. what that means in the grand scheme.. 09:53 ashimema ptfs-europe sandboxes are back up and running.. 09:53 ashimema I'll update the snadbox page on the wiki as I re-enable them all one by one. 09:57 Viktor Weirdness with "Koha as cms". I get a "software error" template process failed: file error - /home/viktor/koha/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl//prog/en/modules/pages.tt: not found at /home/viktor/koha/C4/Templates.pl line 131 09:59 ashimema you have a / too many in there.. 10:00 ashimema opac-tmpl//prog 10:00 ashimema should be opac-tmpl/prog 10:00 ashimema I reckon. 10:00 Viktor Yep - wonder why. 10:00 Viktor Escpecially since I'm running bootstrap 10:00 ashimema ;) 10:00 ashimema it'll be in the code somewhere I reckon. 10:01 Viktor It might be my install that's messed up, but I've taken care to follow the updated instructions. 10:01 ashimema did you do the vhost alias bit.. 10:02 ashimema that may also be the issue.. 10:02 ashimema I've messed that up before ;) 10:02 Viktor No I waited with that. 10:03 Viktor And I wonder why the new files I created would make Templates.pm look for the wrong file path. 10:06 cait ashimema++ 10:06 cait ptfs-europe++ 10:06 Viktor (messing around with stuff. My pages.tt might have been eaten) 10:09 Viktor Ok I'll have to confess for the logs: it was my fault Koha as CMS acted up. 10:12 Viktor I copied the files to Home, edited them, saved and moved them to the rights dirs (all visually with nautilus and gedit). Then may have double checked the files and saved the .tt file back to home. 10:13 cait not sure i can follow - ubt i am glad you figured it out :) 10:14 cait Viktor: indradg has updated the wiki page yesterday 10:15 * indradg waves 10:15 Viktor cait Yes I saw and got curious to try it out :) Thanks indradg! 10:16 cait :) 10:16 * cait waves back 10:16 indradg Viktor: things are working for you now? 10:16 Viktor Works like a charm :) 10:17 Viktor I like the CMS-functionality and would love to see it expanded. Was doing a little hack of my own to get tabbed navigation before the summer. 10:18 indradg i'm writing a plugin to give a koha news editor style interface for the CMS 10:18 Viktor I might bug you guys here on how to get a clean way to create nav tabs later. 10:19 Viktor Great news indradg++ 10:19 cait indradg: cool idea :) 10:20 cait it would be nice if it was less 'hacky' - a lot of people seem to use or want to use it 10:20 Viktor That would be very useful. I have no problem with pasting code, but an editor helps a _lot_ for most people. 10:20 indradg I *hate* the idea of having to input the content via sys pref - (a) easy to mess up other things (b) allot userflag with lower perms to update these 10:21 Viktor Yep. Not very clean at all... 10:21 indradg i'm wrapping the mceditor that we already have in place for other things like kohanews 10:21 indradg thanks cait :) 10:32 ashimema I've been tempted to do a proper patch fro koha as cms for years.. 10:32 ashimema never gotten around to it.. 10:32 ashimema I'd happily test if someone got round to it though ;) 10:57 bgkriegel morning 10:57 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina 10:57 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 3.8°C (7:55 AM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 11:32 ashimema @later tell matts_away Any chance you could take a look at the last two followups for bug 8446 pretty please. 11:32 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 11:32 ashimema matts_away has been away for a while.. wonder if he's on holiday 11:35 cait maybe 11:47 Viktor What's the most reasonable way to translate when you are multiple translators? I don't really like the online tool and prefer poedit... 11:48 Viktor (but overwriting the existing file with my offline might of course kill off progress others made online during the day) 11:49 cait Viktor: it's nt perfect, but i usually stick with the online tool now that we are more translators involved 11:49 cait if i wanted tow rok on clean up, i have send an email to them in the past, to ot make changes until i reuploaded the files 11:51 Viktor Thanks cait - I'll probably have to learn to live with using Pootle then. But an email "keep out today" system sounds promising too. 11:54 cait i like the search options of poedit - so for making sure the same term was used everywhere in the beginning, that was quite useful 11:55 Viktor indradg by the way: when doing the CMS-patch will you work on auto creation of navigation for the pages too? 11:56 Viktor cait - Useful indeed. What I like about poedit is good keyboard shortcuts and fast ways to browse for low hanging fruit. 11:57 cait ashimema++ 11:57 cait Viktor: the new pootle has keyboard shortcuts - maybe take alook if that makes your life a littleeasier 12:00 Viktor Thanks cait - that sounds promising! 12:01 Viktor Have a nice weekend folks! I'm heading afk now. 12:44 tcohen morning 12:46 ashimema morning tcohen 12:46 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:46 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.6°C (9:45 AM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). 12:46 tcohen hi ashimema 12:46 tcohen nice job with the shibboleth patches 12:47 ashimema Cheers.. hopefully the last two are up to scratch.. one being a fairly chunky re-factor.. and the second being the tests. 12:48 ashimema not sure i've caught everything in those tests yet.. feel free to scrutinise ;) 13:03 tcohen bug 12738 13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12738 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search behaviour inconsistent with QueryParser on Perl 5.18 13:42 ashimema oooh. 13:43 ashimema tcohen that's the bug I was looking for only moments ago. 13:43 ashimema wanted to point bug 10542 at it.. 13:43 tcohen i have the fix, and am struggling to get a regression test for it 13:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries' 13:43 ashimema didn't realise it hadn't acutally been opened yet! 13:44 ashimema you have the fix.. awesome! 13:44 ashimema may I be of any assistance? 13:45 tcohen the problem is that each ru nof a perl script shares the same hash seed 13:45 tcohen i need to randomize that between calls to the same method, so the non-determinism is reproduced inside the unit tests file 13:49 ashimema challenging. 13:51 tcohen it seems... I might need to mock keys, to make sure it is truly random inside the same run 13:51 ashimema I'm slightly confused.. I thought the tests were already failing due to this randomisation. 13:51 ashimema or were they inconsistently failing.. 13:52 ashimema or is it that your trying to get the test to fail on an older perl that doesn't do the randomization. 13:53 tcohen there are two problems: tests failing for the QueryParser PQF driver 13:54 tcohen and the bug i mentioned, which is related, but is not the same 13:54 tcohen t/QueryParser.t tests the PQF driver behaviour 13:54 ashimema from Colin: there are tests in perl 5.18 for this to ensure that the seed is not repeated over successive iterations. Is his prob is he needs to emulate that on older perls? 13:55 tcohen ashimema: the question would be what is he calling iterations 13:55 tcohen each time I run the test, a different seed is used 13:55 ashimema indeed.. 13:55 tcohen i want to make same same function call inside the same "run" 13:56 tcohen and have different results 13:57 ashimema I see.. a different seed per call of the same function inside the same run of the script overall.. 13:58 ashimema brain is catching up... 13:58 * tcohen doesn't want to introduce a new dependency, like Hash::Util... 14:02 ashimema that reminds me.. 14:03 ashimema I must check whether my tests introduce any dependancies.. 14:03 ashimema and tidy up the debuging cruft.. think I forgot to do that 14:08 ashimema so your looking to change 'PERL_HASH_SEED' during a script run.. between function calls. I see, and 'PERL_HASH_SEED' expects a binary value encoded hex string 14:19 ashimema tcohen: from colin (he's palyed with this a fair bit i beleive): Each time you create a hash you should get a random seed.. so if your sub does a %hash = @array; @x = keys %hash; The order of @x sould differ each time it is called (provided @array is big enough). The release docs suggests that modules should run tests repeatedly to ensure that sequence isnt predictable. I assume there are similar tests in the perl source 14:19 ashimema distrib 14:21 tcohen yeah, I cannot reproduce that expected behaviour 14:21 cait ashimema: i think we installed some packaces for shibboleth 14:22 tcohen i'm thinking of forking with fixed PERL_HASH_SEED for each 14:22 ashimema sounds fair.. 14:23 ashimema really odd that you can't get the expected behaviour.. 14:23 ashimema that almost sounds like a perl bug in itself. 14:23 ashimema huh cait? 14:23 wahanui somebody said cait was a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step 14:24 cait you said you needed to check that and clean up debugging... 14:24 * cait blames her headache for not making sens 14:24 ashimema i'm even more confused now cait. 14:25 ashimema my last shibboleth patch.. adds unit tests.. I need to check whether the required Test::* dependancies are already in koha.. I forgot to.. 14:25 ashimema And.. whilst writing the tests I has stuff like 'use Data::Dumper' which cna now go ;) 14:25 ashimema that's what I meant. 14:26 cait ok 14:36 tcohen how do i get the location of a script from inside the script? 14:40 ashimema use File::Basename; 14:40 ashimema my $dirname = dirname(__FILE__); 14:40 ashimema or at least.. I think that's how I did it a while back. 14:40 ashimema http://stackoverflow.com/questions/84932/how-do-i-get-the-full-path-to-a-perl-script-that-is-executing 14:40 tcohen ashimema: regression test ready :-D 14:41 ashimema awesome! 14:41 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema 14:41 ashimema damnit 14:42 wnickc ashimema: the sandboxes are back?!?! 14:42 wnickc hooray! 14:43 ashimema indeed.. 14:43 ashimema I fixed them this morning.. 14:43 ashimema wasn't anything to do with what I thought it was.. 14:43 ashimema was actually a git bz bug. 14:43 ashimema sorted none the less 14:43 ashimema hows the conferance going out there? 14:43 wnickc thnak you! 14:43 wnickc not started yet, 9am 14:44 wnickc pacific us time 14:44 cait ashimema++ 14:44 cait ptfs-europe++ :) 14:44 cait @karma ptfs-europe 14:44 huginn cait: Karma for "ptfs-europe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 14:44 cait @karma ptfs_europe 14:44 huginn cait: Karma for "ptfs_europe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 14:44 cait hmm 14:44 wnickc ashimema++ 14:46 ashimema :) 14:46 cait wnickc: i think one of the biblibre sandboxes is set so it's stuck on the utf-8 bug - might explain some of the problems 14:46 ashimema shout if they stop working.. in my tests they were fine.. but there's nothing like the stress test of a conference to break stuff ;) 14:47 cait hm biblibre number 6 14:47 cait so maybe avoid that one 14:47 cait frido asked which to fix, but i think you all were asleep and now it's late friday afternoon here :) 14:47 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development#UTF-8_GBSD_-_23rd_July 14:48 wnickc yeah, I tried to get back to him, but I only had incomplete info 14:49 wnickc off to find food, be back soon 14:50 wnickc thanks to everyone 14:55 cait hi CPBrannon 14:56 CPBrannon hi @cait. What's the @ for? 14:57 cait hm not used here i think 14:57 cait maybe your irc client? 14:58 jcamins CPBrannon: phenomenal cosmic power! 14:58 jcamins (cait is an op) 14:58 ashimema haha.. 14:58 CPBrannon dunno - I see six users at the top of the nick list with @ in front. And when you talk it is in front of your name. 14:58 CPBrannon op? 14:58 wahanui op is the Original Poster, the person who started the discussion or asked the question. 14:59 ashimema magic super cait. 14:59 cait ashimema: yeah ops i think :) 14:59 cait don't mess with me... i can kick people! 14:59 ashimema op = operator (i think) 14:59 CPBrannon okay - there is always something I don't know around here. 14:59 cait ok, first i'd have to figure out how to do that exactly 15:00 ashimema basically an irc admin/moderator type person 15:00 cait for me it's little yellow stars :) 15:00 cait so i was not sure what you meant, i am using pidgin 15:00 ashimema little yellow stars.. shiny. 15:00 CPBrannon she's not so flashy here 15:00 CPBrannon ;) 15:00 cait on closer inspection, little sheriff stars 15:00 cait that looks spelt wrong 15:01 CPBrannon don't worry cait - we'll learn ya 15:02 mveron Hi #koha 15:03 CPBrannon heading out to breakfast. Later #koha 15:03 ashimema tcohen let me know when you throw patches at bug 12738 and i'll happily test them.. got the perfect setup for it now ;) 15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12738 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search behaviour inconsistent with QueryParser on Perl 5.18 15:03 ashimema mmm. breakfast.. that was far too long ago 15:03 tcohen i'm about to attach! 15:03 ashimema awesome 15:13 tcohen ashimema: done 15:13 ashimema :) 15:15 * tcohen feels this is a good way of finishing the week 15:19 ashimema :) 15:20 ashimema me too.. feels like we're getting some real deal breaker fixed recently 15:20 cait :) 15:20 cait yeah, people have stopped being scared and start working on the search code again :) 15:21 ashimema :) 15:21 tcohen heh 15:21 tcohen yeah! 15:22 bgkriegel mveron, around? 15:22 mveron hi bkriegel 15:22 bgkriegel hi :) 15:22 bgkriegel Do you plan to upload a new patch to 12705? 15:23 ashimema tcohen.. any idea's who/whether I need to test a sub that just ends in a 'print $query->redirect' 15:23 ashimema I've not got so far as to testing cgi stuff yet : 15:23 bgkriegel i'm willing to test it 15:24 tcohen ashimema: it is an easy one :-) 15:24 ashimema :) 15:24 mveron bgkriegel: Maybe i find time over the weekend. 15:24 ashimema that's good news.. was about to dive in.. 15:24 ashimema I'll test your qp patch firth though ;) 15:24 tcohen ;) 15:25 bgkriegel mveron: Ok :) 15:25 * cait waves to mveron :) 15:25 mveron bgkriegel: Thanks for testing! 15:25 mveron hi cait :-) 15:28 ashimema damn that's a tiny patch to fix the problem tcohen. 15:28 tcohen hell yeah 15:28 ashimema bet it took ages to work out though. 15:28 tcohen and it took me day and a half :-P 15:34 ashimema hmm. 15:34 ashimema tcohen.. 15:34 wahanui tcohen is obsessed with automated testing :) 15:34 tcohen ? 15:34 tcohen problems? 15:35 ashimema if I only apply the test patch against master on an old deb system (pre 5.18).. should the test fail? 15:35 tcohen i don't think so 15:36 ashimema ok.. will try wrapping my head around that 15:36 tcohen because of the way queryparser.yaml is crafted and then parsed, it always returned 'keyword' as the default search class 15:36 ashimema i see.. 15:37 ashimema so.. when would your test fail then? 15:37 tcohen on a "truly" randomized perl hash context, QueryParser chooses the first it reads 15:37 tcohen when looping through what was read from the yaml file 15:38 tcohen the test would fail on Perl 5.18 15:38 tcohen and the patch only makes a decision already made (fallback to 'keyword' search) explicit 15:38 ashimema hmm. I see.. i think I misundertsand your test.. will have another read.. 15:38 tcohen ah 15:39 ashimema I though by forcing a random seed per run then we we're able to in effect mock the 5.18 behaviour in prior perls. 15:39 tcohen if you run in on pre-5.18, each of the 4 run will return 'keyword', and thus not fail 15:39 ashimema I understand. 15:40 * tcohen doesn't know how pre-5.18 behaves related to the hash seed 15:41 ashimema yeah.. I think I follow now. 15:42 ashimema I may have to move my dev env to ubuntu to catch such tests in the future. 15:43 ashimema else I'll miss such failures during qa 15:44 * ashimema now runs tests as part of qa 15:58 * ashimema really doesnt like db dependant tests! 16:08 ashimema I wish I could set signed-off status using git-bz.. never seem to work for me now days. 16:10 jcamins ashimema: maybe your version of git-bz is out of date. 16:10 cait ashimema: works for me :) 16:10 cait or does passed qa work but signed off does not? 16:11 cait sometimes it explodes for me when i try to set a status that the bugzlla workflow settings don't allow 16:11 cait like when you have to set another status first 16:13 CPBrannon Preparing for Hackfest! :) 16:15 ashimema git-bz very recently pulled. 16:15 ashimema so it's not out of date (like 30 minutes ago pulled) 16:15 ashimema it's when I do a multi-patch attach. 16:16 jcamins ashimema: oh, I never attach more than one patch. 16:16 ashimema so say for instance 'git bz attach -e 12738 commithash..HEAD' 16:16 ashimema I save changing the status for that last patch.. and it always blows up if you set the status at the same time. 16:17 jcamins I just do every patch one at a time. 16:17 ashimema in that case.. I was attaching two patches. 16:17 ashimema I see.. 16:17 jcamins Lots of '^'s. 16:17 ashimema I 'think' it usually works for me if I'm only using one commit 16:17 ashimema lots of ^? 16:18 ashimema do you mean 'git bz attach -e 12345 ^^^HEAD' 16:18 jcamins Yeah. git-bz attach -e 12345 HEAD^^^^ 16:18 ashimema is that not pretty much the same as commithash..HEAD 16:18 jcamins No, that attaches only one patch. 16:19 ashimema or do you do HEAD^^^^ followed by HEAD^^^ and then HEAD^^ 16:19 jcamins Exactly. 16:19 ashimema oh.. 16:19 ashimema :(.. 16:19 jcamins Attaching ranges never really worked great IMO. 16:19 ashimema it's so much nicer doing it with one command 16:19 jcamins It would be nice. 16:20 ashimema I thought attaching ranges basically just stepped through anyway.. 16:20 ashimema I take it I'm wrong then.. 16:20 ashimema assume it does it all in once connection.. rather than opening and closing connections ? 16:20 jcamins That's what it should do, but it's less trouble to just use the carets than to read the git-bz code. 16:20 ashimema I'de really like to see us move to a git bz that used the proper api's 16:21 jcamins If there's a branch of git bz that uses different APIs, there is no reason you couldn't use it. 16:21 ashimema Well.. not git bz per say.. but there are other similar clients.. 16:21 jcamins The reason we have the repo on git.k-c.org is not because anyone in the community maintains it, but because then it's easy to find. 16:22 ashimema who braught git bz to our attention? 16:22 jcamins rangi, maybe? 16:22 ashimema wow.. it's a 2644 line single file.. 16:22 ashimema ouch. 16:54 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: how would you name the these variables?" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150 16:55 jcamins tcohen: I'll think for a bit. 16:56 hbraum good morning :) we’re starting our hackfest in Wenatchee (most of us are newbies), and looking at bugzilla, how do we get the severity column to display in the search results of bugzilla? One person here has the column displaying on his search, but the rest of us aren’t seeing it in our bugzilla accounts. 16:58 hbraum someone in our group answered the question already: it looksl ike if you use the saved searches at the bottom of the screen (like needs signed off), severity displays. 17:01 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: this is what i was thinking of" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/151 17:07 jcamins tcohen: I'd prefer: qr/\@or \@or $keyword_search "smith" ($weight1 "smith" $weight2 "smith"|$weight2 "smith" $weight1 "smith){2}/ 17:07 jcamins And no groupings in the variables. 17:08 tcohen the problem is that they are swapped too 17:09 jcamins Yes, that's why I have a grouping. 17:10 tcohen jcamins: but I see $weight* have their contents swaped too 17:11 jcamins There are only two weights, but they can be in either order, right? 17:12 tcohen (\@attr 9=20 \@attr 2=102|\@attr 2=102 \@attr 9=20) \@attr 4=6 17:12 tcohen it is needed 17:44 CPBrannon hbraum: when you gtet your box figured out, make a few more to make sure you have your method down. :) 17:45 hbraum CPBrannon we’ll see :) 18:03 tcohen bye #koha 18:05 CPBrannon hbraum: what was the code you wanted me to post? 18:05 hbraum CPBrannon the jquery for how you changed your availability column on staff client 18:06 CPBrannon hbraum: I'll let you know when it is posted 18:13 * cait waves 18:14 * pianohacker waves 18:21 wnickc is there a password available for the installer on the biblibre sandboxes? 18:21 jcamins sandboxes? 18:21 wahanui sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes 18:22 wnickc ashimema: sandbox 4 seems to be out of comission 18:23 CPBrannon hbraum: it's in there. Last one in the intranet jquery section http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Hide_locations.2Fcopies_on_Staff_search_results 18:24 hbraum tyvm 18:40 cait :) 18:46 CPBrannon :) 21:23 tcohen hi 21:23 tcohen ashimema: thanks for signing 21:28 ashimema no worries tcohen 21:33 ashimema wnickc: thanks for the notice about sandbox4 21:34 ashimema I'll take a quick look.. 21:39 wnickc :) 21:39 wnickc kohana installfest now has several peopel with working git installs and git bz 21:39 * mtompset cheers, because it sounds good. 21:39 wnickc hopefully sign offs to follow 21:39 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:44 wnickc 1 bug down 21:45 tcohen ashimema: where is the suppress parameter defined for PQF? 21:45 * tcohen is reading the PQF grammar definition 21:46 ashimema erm.. i'm not actually sure 21:46 ashimema dcook got there in the end with that bug to be fair to him.. 21:46 tcohen :-D 21:47 ashimema I just kept getting advice from people until it worked 21:47 tcohen http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#PQF 21:47 tcohen ok, I trust you both so... 21:47 tcohen i guess is some zebra trick 21:47 ashimema http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-zebra.html was the last zebra doc I got into.. to try and work out how relevance works. 21:47 ashimema zebra is plain freaky 21:47 tcohen heh 21:48 tcohen asado tonight, have to leave to get all the stuff 21:48 tcohen bye #koha, nice weekend for every1 21:48 * ashimema has just realised that the out of the box db's for the sandboxes all default to prog for the opac theme.. 21:48 ashimema have a nice weekend tcohen 21:50 CPBrannon Yay! Tested my first patch from my VM! I'm like a giddy little school girl! 21:50 ashimema CPBrannon++ 21:51 ashimema wnickc: sandbox4 is back up.. 21:51 ashimema stupid typo in the apache virtual host conf 21:51 wnickc awesome, thank you! 21:52 ashimema hmm.. 21:52 ashimema well.. sandbox 0, 1, 2 and 3 are up.. I take it back that 4 is.. 21:53 ashimema got an error in updatedatabase.. bear with me. 21:58 ashimema wnickc: now snadbox4 is up.. ack.. two typos later! 21:59 wnickc ashimema++ 22:00 ashimema oh.. the stats are now starting to look interesting.. 22:00 ashimema more than just my name in the list :) 22:27 ashimema 22:27 ashimema night all.. bed time for me 22:27 * ashimema ashimema_afk 22:50 wnickc hi all 22:50 wnickc does the package command koha-upgrade-schema run updatedatabase.pl? 22:52 pianohacker wnickc: yes 22:53 wnickc pianohacker: thanks 23:15 mtompset pianohacker: Greetings. Did MySQL historically not allow NULL as a Date? And if so, do you recall the version? 23:17 pianohacker Hmm, there have been historical problems with NULL/0000-00-00 but I'm not sure of the cause or which versions were affected 23:19 mtompset Because someone was asking for me to take out a '0000-00-00' comparison on bug 12167, and using just NULLs does seem to work for my version of MySQL currently. 23:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12167 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , datetime type casting issue regarding bug 7567 23:20 mtompset do you have any ancient koha database backups with opac_news? 23:20 mtompset could you check to see if the expirationdate is 0000-00-00? :) 23:20 pianohacker oh, lord. I don't, unfortunately 23:28 pianohacker mtompset: and unfortunately I can't seem to find any helpful information on google 23:28 mtompset I had the same bad luck trying to answer the question using google too. 23:56 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 23:56 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 23:57 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 23:57 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 23:57 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 23:57 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).