Time  Nick         Message
23:16 eythian      g'morning/afternoon
23:15 tcohen       hi eythian
23:08 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:30 AM NZST on August 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
23:08 eythian      @wunder nzwn
23:07 huginn       tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.5°C (8:05 PM ART on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
23:07 tcohen       @wunder cordoba, argentina
23:05 tcohen       hi
22:34 wahanui      cait: go to bed
22:34 jcamins      cait?
22:32 eythian      hi cait
22:32 eythian      ibeardslee: I can't help it!
22:32 ibeardslee   wow eythian .. you have a way with people
22:08 vinz3g       quit
22:07 eythian      hi
21:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12673 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4::Items.pm
21:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12675 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from labeledMARCdetail.pl
21:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use Bootstrap "label" style for inline OPAC renewal messages
21:29 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12673: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4::Items.pm
21:29 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12675: Add unit test to GetFrameworksLoop
21:29 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12675: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from labeledMARCdetail.pl
21:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Stray dollar ($) -sign in opac-reserve.pl
21:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12677: Use Bootstrap "label" style for inline OPAC renewal messages
21:29 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 12668 - Stray dollar ($) -sign in opac-reserve.pl
21:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #87: FIXED in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/87/
21:29 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
21:29 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
21:26 cait         good luck vinz3g
21:19 vinz3g       this channel has helped me a few times, I do not usually get much help, but when I needed units have saved me, thank you very much and have success with your event.
21:18 vinz3g       thanks very much a all
21:17 rangi        good luck
21:17 rangi        heh
21:17 vinz3g       now to break my head with extensible catalog to harvest records from koha!
21:15 vinz3g       wooowww
21:14 vinz3g       good!
21:14 vinz3g       hi, my second library, its works!
21:09 vinz3g       then perhaps utf issue, marc, iso, etc.?, I will check the base.
21:07 cait         maybe try with another record - maybe an english one without diacritics first
21:06 vinz3g       maybe the records its bad?
21:06 cait         sorry
21:06 cait         or.. not sure really
21:06 cait         hm it seems lik eit doesn't like the entities
21:04 rangi        i wonder if there is anyone around who knows OAI better than me?
21:04 rangi        looks like something up with the data perhaps,
21:02 rangi        ah ha
21:01 pastebot     "vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OAI-PMH error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/136
21:00 rangi        vinz3g: of the webpage, it might show what the extra content is
20:58 vinz3g       sorry why source? my files? records o the source of web page?
20:56 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:56 rangi        @later tell bobb i think we are on teh same flight to cordoba, at least from santiago .. .maybe all the way from auckland?
20:56 huginn       cait: BobB was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, 35 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <BobB> its evening here :)
20:56 cait         @seen BobB
20:50 rangi        http://paste.koha-community.org/
20:50 rangi        you could paste it here
20:50 rangi        if you choose view source
20:49 vinz3g       error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document <----- anyone know anything about this?,  is the result of consultation with my OAI
20:48 rangi        i found extensible catalog quite hard to understand
20:46 vinz3g       I've managed to convince four small libraries and am now trying to create a union catalog for them with extensible catalog, but almost no documentation ...
20:45 rangi        (35 minutes)
20:45 rangi        its going to get loud here in wellington
20:45 rangi        at 9.20am
20:45 rangi        https://twitter.com/CityGalleryWgtn/status/496033204071968768/photo/1
20:44 vinz3g       ok its true
20:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12554 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
20:40 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12554: (tests followup) need to mock GetCurrency
20:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #89: FIXED in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/89/
20:40 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:40 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:40 rangi        and seem to be quite a big library, maybe will help convince others
20:40 rangi        might be a good person to talk to, they have been using Koha for quite a while now
20:40 rangi        adalid at http://clavius.tij.uia.mx/
20:39 cait         after that it gets easier, because they see it works
20:39 cait         getting the first libaries convinced is always the hardestpart
20:38 vinz3g       I am promoting the use of Koha in the Yucatan Peninsula, even with all its benefits librarians have a lot of mistrust, is a hard job convincing!
20:35 rangi        thanks bgkriegel
20:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12554 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
20:34 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12554: (tests followup) need to mock GetCurrency
20:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #81: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/81/
20:34 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:34 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:34 bgkriegel    rangi cait: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Pabell%C3%B3n+Argentina+-+Haya+de+la+Torre,+C%C3%B3rdoba,+Argentina/Manzana+Jesu%C3%ADtica+-+Obispo+Trejo+242,+C%C3%B3rdoba,+Argentina/@-31.4286582,-64.1956292,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x9432a2f40a65f2df:0xcf242deb1c533173!2m2!1d-64.189256!2d-31.439019!1m5!1m1!1s0x9432a284789dd1b1:0xab4bae7bf44a2db3!2m2!1d-64.186762!2d-31.418298!3e2
20:34 rangi        vinz3g: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/NorthAmerica  there are a few koha libraries in mexico listed here
20:32 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12673: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4::Items.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e278782f156a9d7452e6e9ddcefee9542b964fc> / Bug 12675: Add unit test to GetFrameworksLoop <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab0d9ae5163d22a9f0e971a80d8470275332fe67> / Bug 12675: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from labeledMARCdetail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
20:32 * tcohen     loved Merida's surroundings
20:32 rangi        ahhh very cool :)
20:32 vinz3g       :)
20:32 vinz3g       no, I from México, Mérida Yucatán, land of mayans
20:32 tcohen       rangi: the hackfest is in the campus
20:32 vinz3g       error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document <-----
20:31 rangi        vinz3g: do you live near argentina? that is where the Koha conference is being held this year
20:31 vinz3g       hi
20:30 rangi        and the hackfest near here?
20:30 rangi        http://www.lonelyplanet.com/argentina/northwest-argentina/cordoba/sights/museums-galleries/museo-historico-de-la-universidad-nacional-de-cordoba
20:30 cait         very cool
20:30 rangi        well that's easy then :)
20:30 tcohen       rangi: the Jesuit block is where the conference is held :-D
20:29 cait         but i know nzers invented all kind of crazy sports... :)
20:28 cait         i'd probably die heh
20:28 bgkriegel    rangi: in that page 'Valle de Traslasierras and Mina Cavero'
20:28 cait         rangi: i am scared of heights...
20:28 rangi        also this http://www.ratestogo.com/blog/10-must-see-attractions-in-cordoba-argentin/
20:28 rangi        cool
20:28 tcohen       i mentioned the third
20:28 rangi        cait: you want to go paragliding? :)
20:27 rangi        i found http://www.allaboutar.com/ard_cordoba_nearby.htm
20:27 bgkriegel    yeap, that could be
20:27 bgkriegel    cait: well, we are deliberating with tcohen what's better
20:26 tcohen       cait: San Javier / Yacanto
20:26 bgkriegel    vinz3g: No hay de que :)
20:24 vinz3g       gracias tcohen bgkriegel cait
20:24 tcohen       vinz3g: por ejemplo http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=marcxml
20:24 cait         or something close enough for a day trip
20:24 cait         bgkriegel: yep :)
20:24 tcohen       (para que en vez de mostrarte un error, te devuelva registros)
20:24 bgkriegel    cait: at Cordoba?
20:23 tcohen       /cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=marcxml
20:23 tcohen       vinz3g: proba en el dominio de tu OPAC
20:23 vinz3g       ok, thankyou, muchas gracias!
20:23 cait         bgkriegel: what would be your top 3 things we should be doing/seeing? :)
20:22 bgkriegel    hehe :)
20:22 cait         bgkriegel: i understood that! :)
20:22 cait         :)
20:22 tcohen       /cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl
20:21 bgkriegel    vinz3g: cual es la pregunta?
20:21 vinz3g       I speak spanish
20:20 rangi        unless we find some cheap flights
20:20 rangi        too far for a day trip then :)
20:20 bgkriegel    ~700 Km
20:20 rangi        ah ok
20:20 tcohen       720Km
20:20 bgkriegel    by plane 1 hour
20:19 rangi        bgkriegel: how far is buenos aires from cordoba?
20:19 vinz3g       I configured OAI, now how can I verify that the OAI-PMH server is working properly, there is a URL?
20:19 bgkriegel    rangi: yes!
20:19 rangi        bgkriegel: are you about?
20:17 cait         What's your native language?
20:17 vinz3g       sorry dont speak english, I use google translator
20:16 vinz3g       yes of course
20:16 cait         vinz3g: can you rephrase your question?
20:10 vinz3g       one last question, as I can verify that OAI is available in koha?
20:07 vinz3g       oh, tanks
20:06 cait         i eman you don't need a set for allrecords
20:06 cait         all records should be available without you doing any mapping
20:06 vinz3g       I want to put all my records available in OAI.
20:04 cait         sorry, vinz3g, I am not sur ei understand what you want to do
20:02 vinz3g       butthe question has to do with mapping if I want all the records is available and I recommend that fields must contain values​​?
20:02 cait         now i missed mveron
20:02 cait         oh
20:00 vinz3g       thanks mveron
19:58 mveron       Good night / daytime #koha
19:58 mveron       vinz3g: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha#OAI-PMH
19:54 rangi        then we do a commit that switches the theme syspref, and the fallback at that point
19:54 rangi        probably safest until all the removal patches are done
19:54 tcohen       but, really, didn't have the time to read the whole thing
19:54 tcohen       just didn't understand why leaving 'prog' as default
19:53 tcohen       rangi, I agree with that
19:53 rangi        just to remove prog
19:53 rangi        there are people using themes that are not ccsr or prog .. we dont need to break stuff for them
19:53 rangi        tcohen i commented on the bug, there is no need to remove the fallback feature, just to deprecate prog
19:52 vinz3g       Anyone with information about how to configure OAI-PMH
19:50 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12554: (tests followup) need to mock GetCurrency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54c4c73e479f374dad7b5db6dc23272960aa2a01>
19:50 vinz3g       Hello, good afternoon
19:21 huginn       tcohen: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.1°C (9:20 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
19:21 tcohen       @wunder konstanz
18:20 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 22.0°C (8:20 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
18:20 mveron       @wunder Basel
18:20 mveron       Hi #koha
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12685 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , search history page missing help file
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12554 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12672 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , GetMarcISBN should return the corresponding subfield
16:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12685: Add help file for staff search history
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12687 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from circulation.pl
16:21 jenkins_koha * Petter Goksoyr Asen: Bug 12554: Fix GetMarcPrice for NORMARC
16:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12554: (regression test) C4::Biblio::GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
16:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12672: GetMarcISBN should return the corresponding subfield
16:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12672: (regression test) GetMarcISBN should return the corresponding subfield
16:21 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12687 - Remove CGI::scrolling_list from circulation.pl
16:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #80: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/80/
15:38 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12685: Add help file for staff search history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfc5017acb276d44e092dfea34f9df68bbbbac6a> / Bug 12554: Fix GetMarcPrice for NORMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9fab262405a08a24f46defb9654fc00a7775d31> / Bug 12554: (regression test) C4::Biblio::GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
15:13 bgkriegel    tcohen: without the preference we lost a feature, so it's value is set to 'prog' until the final removal
15:10 bgkriegel    hi tom :)
15:10 tcohen       :-P
15:10 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:10 tcohen       @later tell bgkriegel i think i need to read the discussion and the defined deprecation path to better understand
15:09 bgkriegel    hehe :)
15:09 cait         i think you both are here now an dcan talk normally :)
15:08 huginn       bgkriegel: The operation succeeded.
15:08 bgkriegel    @later tell tcohen: it's a fallback syspref added, with current value 'prog', future value 'bootstrap'
15:05 bgkriegel    hi again
14:46 * cait       can relate tothat
14:44 * tcohen     is in sunday-mode, all confused :-P
14:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, REOPENED , remove prog and CCSR OPAC themes
14:41 tcohen       jcamins: but bug 12233 is expected to be pushed for 3.18
14:38 cait         we will have to do a database update to set opacthemes anyway - it woudl not be hard to include this at the time
14:37 jcamins      It should be prog at the moment because it will break current functionality dramatically and though deprecated, CCSR is still there.
14:35 tcohen       i'll take a look at the discussion, thanks jcamins cait
14:34 cait         hm, i didn't feel like that
14:33 jcamins      tcohen: because a former RM threw a hissy fit about the fact that there wasn't such a syspref.
14:31 cait         the discussion shoudl be in the logs from the last 2 days or so
14:31 cait         hm not sure
14:30 tcohen       and why not bootstrap directly
14:30 cait         defining a base template yours are derived fromn
14:30 cait         yep
14:30 cait         this way we can push it now and only need a database update switching it to bootstrap later
14:30 tcohen       ah, ccsr-like functionality
14:30 cait         say you only have your own advanced search... and it falls back to another template for all the other files
14:29 tcohen       i'll try to find it, thanks cait
14:29 cait         the problem with the first patch was that it broke the fallback option for creating your own templates
14:29 cait         tcohen: there was a discussion about that on irc
14:26 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:26 tcohen       @later tell bgkriegel why is there a "prog" fallback syspref added?
14:21 tcohen       hi cait
14:21 cait         hi tcohen :)
14:19 cait         and it worked... *yay*
14:09 cait         trying to make the kartoffelpuffer from scratch for the first time
14:09 cait         i am having kartoffelpuffer with apfelmus
13:49 jcamins      And I need another dessert.
13:48 jcamins      Both, because the korma involves onions, and one of our guests is allergic to onions.
13:47 jcamins      That's what we're having for lunch.
13:47 jcamins      *korma
13:47 jcamins      cait: saag paneer or chicken koram?
13:41 cait         I am thinking about what to cook for dinner too
13:41 cait         ok :)
13:39 bgkriegel    sorry, i'm cooking. Yes, i did a renaming patch and was way big, so i wrote that suggestion
13:33 cait         i think you will deal with that with tcohen?
13:33 cait         you noted that renaming all the files wwas too big
13:29 cait         well one thing afer another :)
13:29 cait         oh right...
13:27 bgkriegel    wait we try to use another DB!
13:27 bgkriegel    yeap
13:26 cait         who would have thought there are so many things to do in order to change templates
13:25 bgkriegel    Cool :)
13:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12535 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , PROG/CCSR Deprecation: Make opac translation theme independent
13:24 cait         looking at bug 12535 now
13:22 bgkriegel    your right. It's a very important. Better this way
13:18 cait         but hard to speed up and i still think qa is worth taking time
13:18 cait         lots of good things waiting too long
13:18 cait         yeah :(
13:15 bgkriegel    we need more hands
13:14 bgkriegel    all queues are growing...
13:13 cait         hehe i am lazy too... and this queue is growing so fast
13:13 cait         so? :)
13:13 bgkriegel    we are too lazy to try things that need to be tried
13:13 cait         heh
13:12 bgkriegel    cait++
13:11 bgkriegel    No no!! Your are the best at testing :)
13:09 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
13:09 cait         @wunder Konstanz
13:08 cait         because i am good at breaking things? :)
13:03 bgkriegel    i didn't test using bootstrap
13:02 bgkriegel    cait++
13:02 bgkriegel    that's why you are the QA manager :)
13:02 bgkriegel    yes
13:01 cait         could you reproduce the problem?
13:01 cait         ah cool
13:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12539 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove hardcoded theme from C4/Templates.pm
13:00 bgkriegel    Fixed Bug 12539
13:00 bgkriegel    hi :)
13:00 cait         here :)
13:00 bgkriegel    cait, around?
12:57 huginn       bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.1°C (9:55 AM ART on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
12:57 bgkriegel    @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:57 bgkriegel    Hi #koha
11:57 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8°C (1:55 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
11:57 cait         @wunder Konstanz
07:50 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.1°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:50 cait         @wunder Konstanz