Time Nick Message 05:34 ashimema_zzzzz Hi rangi.. 05:34 ashimema_zzzzz indeed.. i was more thinking I like the pull request workflow, than specifically tying it to github.. ;) I agree with all you say there.. 05:35 ashimema_zzzzz and i did say that our workflow work.. so lets not break it in the original comment.. 05:36 ashimema_zzzzz my envisages way to make pull requests workflow work, would have indeed included a gerrit or similar middle step for quality control ;) 05:36 ashimema_zzzzz I'm not suggesting we jump in any time soon though.. bugzilla works well for us.. just feels a tad dated.. but it works well and has worked well for us for some time and has worked well for many other projects too ;) 07:00 rangi ashimema_zzzzz: yeah, i had a gerrit running at kohacon12 ... its a bit of a steep learning curve for people who want to do sign offs 07:00 rangi gerrit + sandboxes might work 07:00 ashimema yeah.. I have to admit my playing with gerrit lead me to thinking it was 'too hard' for your average joe 07:01 ashimema i'de like to see one of the open source github'ish ones out there include some gerrit like features.. 07:01 rangi yeah 07:01 rangi i wonder if gitorious are working on that 07:03 ashimema would be interesting to find out. 07:04 ashimema it's gitorious that biblibre are using now isn't it? 07:04 rangi might be 07:04 ashimema it's such a shame github isn't open (even more of a shame that they have some other questionable hiring stances). As a product for git github is pretty hard to beat. 07:05 rangi i use it for my projects, and mahara use it 07:05 ashimema ah.. githlab is what they're using now. 07:05 ashimema https://about.gitlab.com/ 07:06 rangi https://gitorious.org/~ranginu 07:07 rangi it does all the merge requests etc 07:08 rangi just missing the status of a patch type idea 07:08 ashimema I've had a play with gitorious a few times.. 07:08 rangi gitlab looks interestin 07:09 ashimema every time i'm more impressed.. though it's development seems to have slowed a bit of late to me? 07:09 ashimema gitlab is really interesting. 07:11 ashimema in a breif.. very brief.. play, gitlab seems to have the edge over gitorious for me. 07:14 rangi ill have to get it running to test it out sometime 07:17 ashimema indeed.. 07:17 rangi the trick would be migrating 07:17 ashimema I'm sure if you asked nicely Joubu/PaulP would give you an account to play with form a user perspective on their one.. 07:17 ashimema At the moment I think it's locked down to requireing an account at least.. 07:19 ashimema Migration would need a whole community 'go for it'.. technically I imagine it's not too hard.. but getting everyone to switch and agree to the switch.. more so.. 07:19 ashimema worth a play though.. I like keeping options open ;) 07:19 ashimema aha.. of course.. biblbire do have lots of 'public projects' https://git.biblibre.com/public/projects 07:19 ashimema not sure that worked when I first saw them make the switch 07:20 rangi doesnt seem to be an importer from bugzilla at the moment 07:20 ashimema :( 07:21 rangi bugzilla outputs everything as xml 07:21 rangi so shouldnt be hard to write one 07:24 ashimema right.. it's the weekend here.. I should probably go do weekend stuff with the family 07:24 rangi :) 07:24 ashimema have fun rangi.. nice to chat to you.. we don't often seem to overlap on IRC these days :( 07:30 rangi yeah stupid timezones 07:31 ashimema indeed. 07:31 ashimema gitlab is mostly ruby.. wasn't expecting that.. 07:31 ashimema anywho.. I'm ofski before the misses tells me off ;) 07:31 ashimema laters 07:31 rangi cya later :) 10:57 hasenbear hello out there. is it possible to export call numbers for printing with an external program? 10:57 cait hmi think you can use a report to do that 10:57 cait it would give you an ods spreadsheet, csv or json if you want to automate something 10:57 cait where are you from hasenbear? 10:57 hasenbear in germany 10:58 hasenbear we've talked before cait, you helped with a problem i had with zebra 10:58 hasenbear thanks again for that 10:58 cait ah ok :) 10:58 cait me too 10:58 cait your nick sounded suspicious 10:58 hasenbear so. dumb question. how do i do the report? 10:58 hasenbear creature of habit :) 10:59 cait you can do sql reports with koha 10:59 cait you know that you can print labels within koha as well? (just checking) 10:59 cait so you'd do something like.... select callnumber from items where ... 10:59 hasenbear i know i can but have been having trouble getting it to format just right. 11:00 cait i'd suggest taking a look at the reports module 11:00 cait are you familiar with sql? 11:00 hasenbear since i was advised not to print patron cards on koha i thought i'd just try doing it all externally 11:00 hasenbear no unfortunately not. i'm not the admin 11:01 cait we don't use the labels modules, so i can not advice much there 11:01 cait i think it seems to work well for some 11:01 cait but it's a lot to configure and try out to get it right i think 11:01 hasenbear i had the patron cards configured (now have less hair) 11:01 hasenbear but the pdf keeps crashing 11:01 hasenbear so i can't print them out 11:01 cait ah 11:02 cait maybe diacritics - there are ways to make it work now i think 11:02 hasenbear so what would you suggest? 11:02 cait there were some problems with utf-8 data in the pdfs in the past 11:02 cait hm both ways are ok 11:02 cait you need to figure out what works best for you 11:03 hasenbear but i have to have access to the sql module to do it externally? 11:03 cait ah 11:03 cait you can write sql reports within koha 11:03 cait you don't need to access the server 11:04 cait it all works from the gui 11:04 cait maybe try something easy for a start 11:04 hasenbear is it something i can read my way into? 11:04 cait sure :) 11:04 cait so for soomething quick 11:04 cait you could do 11:04 cait reports > saved reports > new from sql 11:05 hasenbear okay. and that give me.... what does that give me? 11:05 cait a form :) 11:05 cait sec 11:05 hasenbear :) 11:06 cait you give it a name 11:06 cait and then add soemthing like this in the big field for the sql: 11:06 cait select itemcallnumber from items where itemcallnumber is not NULL; 11:06 cait get callnumber from all items, where the callnumber is not empty 11:06 cait save and run it 11:06 cait some inspiration can be found here 11:06 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 11:08 hasenbear thanks! i'll give that a try and see how far i get. danke dir cait. du bist doch in BW, oder? wir sind dann nicht so weit auseinander. 11:08 cait ja :) Konstanz 11:08 cait wo bist du? 11:08 aman how can i duplicate my koha server.. i mean one server is set fully n customized, the other one, i have installed koha from the bootable koha ubuntu.. Then i tried to dump SQL and import on other pc but the result was not exact 11:08 hasenbear nähe würzburg 11:09 hasenbear i'll be back if i can't get anywhere with the report. thanks again!! 11:09 cait hm dumping the database and reimporting is normally done a lot 11:09 cait do the versions match? 11:09 aman yes the version match 11:09 cait importing a lower version db into a higherversion koha would be ok too - will start the update 11:10 aman but do i need to do some pre-requisites before importing sql? 11:10 aman actually the results were quiet different, like the search used to gave different result for the books.. thats wierd 11:11 cait hm 11:11 cait hard to tell 11:11 cait but you will need to reindex 11:11 cait the zebra indeses are kept outside of the db - so you import and do a full zebra reindex 11:12 aman ok.. and also i need to ask that how can i import patrons? the patrons were uploaded on that pc but even on DB dump, no patrons were imported 11:12 cait hmm they would be included if the db dump worked correctly 11:13 cait normally you do a csv import when you start out - toold > import patrons - you can download a file there to help get you started 11:14 aman then i must be missing some steps surely.. hmm the csv is actually not accessible for me as i m learning koha.. making a trial system.. 11:15 cait a full db dump should give you all data and no more migrations needed apart fromrebuilding the indexes 11:15 cait i'd start and try to find out what went wrong there or start from scratch 11:15 cait but probably i wouldn't feel safe using a database that showed strange behaviour after an import attempt - you don' tknow what might be missing 11:16 aman cait.. usually if i have 2 systems with same koha version, can i have the exact copy on DB dump or i need to set library or things prior to DUMP process 11:16 cait nope 11:16 cait if youwork with dumpms 11:16 cait you replace one database with another 11:16 cait all settings from the old db don't matter 11:17 cait you overwrite it completely 11:17 aman ok.. and sir, i m unaware of indexing, how is it done? 11:17 cait hm that's command line 11:17 cait it depends on how you installed your koha 11:17 aman oh.. 11:18 cait you run a command, but it differes from a package install to a tarball installation 11:18 aman can the error be this only coz i have not indexed.. 11:18 cait if it's only search being werid, yes 11:18 aman patrons too :( 11:19 cait hm they wouldn't be affected by this 11:19 cait it's really a bit hard to tell what went wrong 11:19 aman ok thats anyways sir 11:19 cait but i'd try to start over - not trying to repair 11:19 aman thanks 11:19 aman i will also prefer same :) 11:19 cait why sir? :) 11:20 aman sir.. coz u know lot more than me in koha :) 11:22 cait we are not so formal here :) 11:30 bgkriegel hola #koha 11:31 cait hola bgkriegel :) 11:32 bgkriegel hola cait, Buen dÃa para ti :) 11:33 cait gracias, buen dÃa para ti 11:33 cait i don't know ...how to say too :) 11:33 bgkriegel too = también ! 11:33 bgkriegel it's longer :) 11:34 cait ohright 11:34 cait i forgot :) i tihnk i need to look into my spanish books more :) 11:35 cait también and tampoco ? 11:36 bgkriegel tampoco is 'neither' 11:36 bgkriegel :) 11:37 cait yep :) 11:38 cait i really need to learn more spanish... i already start forgetting what i learned in the courses :( 11:39 bgkriegel well, you can try a little here :) 11:42 bgkriegel few scrolling_lists now, almost finished 11:54 cait thx a lotfor taking this one on:) 11:55 cait hola tcohen, que tal? 11:55 tcohen muy bien cait, que tal vos? 11:56 cait también 11:56 cait can i ssay that? 11:57 tcohen "muy bien, también" I'd say 11:57 cait ah 11:57 cait right, i think i think too much :) 11:59 tcohen how's your saturday starting? 11:59 cait sloooow 11:59 cait kind of late here too :) 11:59 cait 2pm 12:00 tcohen heh 12:01 bgkriegel Mmm, only we (argentina) and Costa Rica use 'vos' for you (second singular). Rest of spanish world use 'tu' 12:01 cait what are you 2 doing? 12:01 cait yeah i learned tu 12:01 cait but i think you don't use vosotros? or do you? 12:02 cait so many differences between the countries 12:02 tcohen "ustedes" 12:02 tcohen spain: "vosotros" <-> the rest: "ustedes" 12:02 cait ok, so got that right then :) 12:03 tcohen yesterday I won't my quarter finals match :-D 12:04 cait congrats :) 12:05 bgkriegel tcohen: you won or won't ? :) 12:05 bgkriegel hi BTW :) 12:05 tcohen I won't loose :-P 12:05 tcohen nah, I won it 12:05 tcohen and hi 12:06 cait el moto or la moto? 12:06 tcohen la 12:07 cait thx 12:07 cait I am practicing a bit with duolingo :) 12:08 bgkriegel need to try it 12:09 cait if you do, let me know - i can add you to my friends list :) 12:10 bgkriegel ok :) 12:32 cait bgkriegel: what are you working on? 12:35 bgkriegel cait: right now, trying to expunge all scrolling_list 12:37 bgkriegel cait: could I have an opinion on Bug 11593? 12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , subtag_registry.sql files contain the same information for each language 12:38 cait bgkriegel: i hadn't seen that yet 12:38 cait i guess it wouldbe a quicer version of your more thorough patch? 12:38 cait but probably not quite as nice 12:38 cait oh 12:39 bgkriegel some form of this file is needed 12:39 cait yeah 12:39 cait could this be a first step to removing it totally? 12:39 bgkriegel with 11593 we can have only one 12:39 cait so this first and then 11593? 12:40 cait or better decide on one? 12:40 cait sorry if I am not making much sense 12:40 bgkriegel no problem :) 12:41 bgkriegel it's a matter of discussion, to find a better way 12:43 bgkriegel but 11953 is about consolidate into one file 12:46 bgkriegel cait: you need that I look something? 12:47 cait i like 11953 because it's abit less invasive 12:47 cait changingless code 12:47 cait and adopting a method we have already 12:47 cait i like the other patchbecauseit will not require people to change an sql file to have more translations 12:48 cait rightt now we only support english, french and german.. that's not so nice 12:50 cait bgkriegel: you wrote both patches, what are you thinking? 12:51 cait i think maybe the easy one first, could even be a bugfix for stable versions... and then 12017? 12:51 bgkriegel yes, that could work 12:53 bgkriegel algo I have another, 12250, in that I copy the same file for all languages 12:53 cait hm i think maybe leave that and go for the one file one instead 12:53 cait if that would be ok for you 12:53 bgkriegel i'm writing my own incompatibilities :) 12:53 cait it looks like :) 12:54 cait but then we need a follow up for kurdish to the other, i think? 12:54 cait i am getting a little confused here between all the languages :) 12:54 bgkriegel yes, of course :) 12:55 bgkriegel a common TT dir to share some code between opac/staff would be great 12:55 * cait nods 12:55 cait i think we have run into the problem quite often now 12:55 cait also for javascript libraries 12:57 bgkriegel that could help with 12017, and yes, many other things 12:59 bgkriegel I'm also waiting for Joubu to review (again) Bug 12061, that is needed to Bug 7939 12:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , tmpl_process3.pl new features 12:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 12:59 cait bgkriegel: he is on vacation now i am afraid 12:59 cait i think 2 more weeks at least 13:00 bgkriegel yep, I know :) No problem 13:02 cait ah tcohen is gone 13:07 cait tcohen++ 13:08 cait bgkriegel: have to go to the supermarket... will be back later - have a nice weekend :) 13:08 bgkriegel you too :) 20:17 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:17 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on August 02, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 23:52 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina 23:52 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.1°C (8:50 PM ART on August 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).